Dead Rising 4 is nothing like Dead Rising
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- Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2016
- Dead Rising 4 is the misconception that killing zombies was the unique draw of Dead Rising. This video shows what Capcom Vancouver has to say about Frank West, time limit, psychopaths, survivors and other important aspects of the game. "We're back to our roots".
02:53 Survivors cannot be escorted
03:20 Foods are like instant healthpacks
03:47 Maniacs replace psychopaths
04:35 No Frank original voice actor
05:29 Zombies aren't more aggressive at night
05:47 No time limit
08:22 No save locations
------ Dead Rising timeline ------
Dead Rising 1 - Developed by Capcom Production Studio 1
Dead Rising 2 - Developed by Blue Castle Games (western developers) with the help of original japanese directors
*****Blue Castle Games is acquired by Capcom and renamed Capcom Vancouver****
Dead Rising 3 - Developed by Capcom Vancouver
Dead Rising 4 - Developed by Capcom Vancouver with new directors and producers
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"So why did you decide to change Frank's Voice Actor?"
"Y'know, we wanted to see how Frank's changed, and how he's matured in the 10 years since Deadrising 1, so we decided to go with a different voice actor."
I guess Voice Actors just don't age, then.
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Lol
TJ also voiced Frank in Off The Record, which took place four years after the original outbreak. It also isn't like TJ is some really young 20 year old.
Or can't, you know, act older either
@@Ticketman99 Yeah but you gotta admit Christopher Judge was a really good choice
I remember being disappointed by Mgs 5 replacement of David hayter with Keifer Sutherland, and Kojima said in an interview “we decided to go with an older seasoned actor for this game.” Even though David is two years younger.
The way they keep saying "Frank is back" is annoying. Frank isn't Frank without his original voice actor. I don't know who the fuck that is in DR4 but it sure as shit isn't Frank.
#FrankisNOTback
It's Frank's Clone! HIS CLONE!
HIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS CLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEEEE!
hahaha
Evilshtt353 #FlithyfrankTV
Even if they couldn't get the original voice actor back, they should have gotten a guy that sounds like TJ. Capcom does that with their characters, almost every single Jill, Chris and Claire has sounded alike.
Evilshtt353 Even if they didnt get Rotolo back, Franks personality is the complete opposite of what it actually is.
"Before you'd help a survivor and they'd go 'thanks' and just take off. That wasn't worth it."
No you didn't. You'd help a suvivor and then you'd have to actually take them back to the safe room which was hard AF as you could accidently insta kill them with a sledgehammer blow you meant to aim at a zombie. And in return you'd get a tonne of XP and the survivor ACTUALLY BEING THERE in the safe room thankful that you saved them.
Their description of the survivors describes the survivors in Dead Rising 4 perfectly, they took away all the dept.
It was annoying at first because you're under leveled and weren't meant to save everyone but saying it wasn't worth it sounds like someone who didn't play any of the games because saving survivors was a good way to net PP.
I was wondering why the F he said this cause it made no sense. I don’t remember the survivors escorting themselves to the safe room, that was UR JOB… kind of the whole point of DR1
@@RedHotPepperss I thought it was interesting that depending on who you saved they appear together in the security room and thank you with their own unique dialogue, and you can see all of them at once no matter how many u saved
Yeah those fuckin gay lord hipsters clearly haven't even played the other games, maybe 3. Fuckin cunts. I hope they were all sacked after that shit. I don't usually get mad about video games cuz yanno, it's a fuckin game but they FUCKED dead rising and the way they spin it makes it even worse. Fuckin beardy hipster nonces.
The fact that you can literally become a Psycho yourself in DR1 is so brilliant. You can literally kill any character and completely destroy the story, go mad like the Psychos.
That is actually really fucking cool! The fact that game just doesn’t end when you ruin the main quest line is fucking brilliant. I should play this game.
@@co7769 You really should. It's great despite it's jank.
I remember getting the Xbox 360 specifically for Dead Rising. It was a great decision in retrospect.
@@co7769 failing the story is essentially a free play mode, yeah.
@@co7769 play the second one as well
>we did a lot of research
>we asked fans
>we looked at the feedback
This is what corporate insecurity looks like.
Awful Waffle the sad part is that not including a timer is a huge red flag for the fact that they didn’t care to QA enough to include it.
Exactly. The mindset is not whether or not your product is shit, but if you have made a series of approvable, transparent steps, that can be audited, deemed correct, and thus remove you of any responsibility.
They did reasearch at random normies opinions instead of gamers/fans of deadrising serie
That is a good thing. As long as they are not over doing it, that's what corporations should do. The thing is, Capcom didn't care about feedback they got.
@@SalvageET No, Capcom asked random focus gruops instead of Dead Rising fans. " We talked with the fans " Fucking bullshit from these corporate lyers
"we did a lot of testing"
"we did a lot of research"
*they do a lot of talking*
They do a lot of drugs too
and alotta bullshit too
And a lot of lying
If they did a lot of testing, they would have realized the timer is really necessary for "going back to their roots," and that they were missing any real notion that this was a Dead Rising game.
we do a little trolling
This video inspired me to replay Dead Rising 1, Frank doesn’t make A SINGLE FUCKING JOKE the whole game. I’ve never seen a more fundamental misunderstanding of a character from a dev team ever.
I don't recall Frank ever making a joke in the first game, he always responded to people sarcastically rather then making an actual joke.
That's not Frank West.
That's Hank East.
I think the 2nd biggest misconception of what made a character endearing to fans was with DINO (Dante In Name Only) from DmC.
Capcom is a great company and have made some of the best games in video game history but boy, when they screw up, they ROYALLY screw up.
OTR Frank is definitely more sarcastic but not smarmy and corny. DR4 Frank is definitely a case of trying too hard.
after looking at cutscene videos, ya I can confirm he acts seriously
The first dead rising it was fucking amazing. It had character. Escorting survivors at night was horrifying. Hearing the zombies and only seeing their red eyes was chilling. Fighting psychopaths was tense but so depressing in the end once you learnt what set them off. Adam the Clown seeing an audience full of kids be killed by zombies so he now keeps the space ride going just to keep dead kids safe. The Vietnam vet who sees his granddaughter killed and loses it. This is what made the first one so great. Frank wasn't a sarcastic idiot acting like a 14 year old rebellious teen. He was focused, he was serious. We made him do the dumb shit. We made him wear a dress and skateboard around a mall. That wasn't the way he acted normally. I do not know what the fuck they were thinking with this game but it has none of the heart, none of the charm of the original. I hope to god there is a Dead Rising 5 just to wash this shit out of our mouths.
Well said man I hope so too 👏
If anything it has to be a reboot,just cant see them continuing off this game,but im not sure Capcom will take that risk
I recently quit "frank rising", after beating dumbass base game, where he eats people but has no issues on good ending [youtubed it].
Went to DR3 which is a good enough conclusion of the series to me.
I don't think they'd do it justice with today's corporate angle 🤷
[ I beat all others before, upon release.]
Never played the game. But if it was that bad, maybe it's time to move on?
Cliff's backstory is depressing even more because at the end of his life, he kinda snaps outta it because Frank basically put him to rest finally. He didn't have to live with the horrible memory, or things he did to protect himself... Or what he could've done to protect his grandchild. DR1 is the best
"People don't want to play it again", if you have to say this you have failed as a game designer.
Games are suppose to have replay value? What kind of blasphemy are you spouting!?
Not having game overs is a failure of the game designer.
Nobody respects time management aspects anymore, pretty depressing.
MysteriousTomJenkins but this is dead rising. its like Edmund McMillan saying that nobody wants to replay the binding of Isaac or super meat boy
PsychoPanda9000 I'm being sarcastic with my comment.
"kept the core of dead rising"
> removes all the things that made dead rising one great.
Its natural of established franchises to do this now
Abandon their roots for BS
Saints Row, Fallout, COD, Halo, Tom Clancy
Activision, the con artists "Saint's Row" wasn't "Saint's Row" until SR2, so not sure if I agree with that example, and Fallout 4 is easily my favorite Fallout game in the franchise, regardless of certain formula changes (most were changed for the better imo.) I think people are way too cynical most of the time, change is a good thing when done right. DR4 is just a good example of it being done wrong.
William Marmol Just because its your favorite doesnt mean its not a "fallout" game in essence
It appealed to the masses and abandon the roots, just like many games now and days do
"Cynical"
Yea, cuz its not like the industry is in the gutter now with all the BS going on
This is just one example
Unless you're talking Fallout 1 roots and not Fallout 3 roots (another perfect example of a damn good change) then I disagree. And yeah, thinking the game industry is in the gutter is cynical. You're entitled to your opinion, just wanted to make sure you knew it wasn't fact.
William Marmol I know the "truth hurts" but you will learn soon
Especially if you think the current practices like poor launches, DLC scams and micros overtaking is not being cynical, then just go on and pretend everything is fine.
I like how their strategy is staying so far away from replayability, and that they pretty much use that anti replayability as a *selling point* under the notion of “you can do it all in one run :D”
Perfect game for game journalist. Those never replay any game and then we wonder why we are tortured with ubi-games? Collect everything in your 90 hours run, max every skill tree and never return to game again. Remove checklist from the ubi-game and magically it becomes a boring game same with Witcher 3 and many other popular open world games designed for minimap with question marks.
Which also didn't make any sense. Dead Rising was always about replayability and leveling up. Wtf were they even talking about ?
I mean the first game can get kinda infuriating at times where if you waste too much time you risk missing out on some of the fun psychopath fights that give you access to major things like the chainsaw and guns making it so you need to reset, but you still carry lots of progress over and you already know what you want to do afterwards so catching up by starting a new cycle is easy
"Dead rising is known for killing tons and tons of zombies"
While that is technically true, I remember my playthroughs of the original and how I used to kite and avoid zombies most of the time, while I had to make do with whatever I could find, building forts in shops out of furniture and all that. A looming sense of terror was always present and I left out an audible sigh of relief whenever I made it back to the security room. Devs who think that Dead Rising was all about "all the wacky ways you can kill a zombie" should not be anywhere near a new dead rising game.
its one of the things that makes DR good, but its one of, not the.
When you get a car in the parking to farm kill and then the car broke and you're in a middle of a zombie wave in the dark and all your weapons broke one by one while you try getting out.
@@GaspardFR LOL I remember that
I definatly agree. I never started to kill tons of zombies until I found out you could triple book the small chainsaw.
@@elmaionesosexo Yeah, Left 4 Dead is known for the horde slaying imo, Dead Rising takes a different approach
"We wanted to make Frank more mature"
Typical Frank West quip "That's what she said".
Capcom, you failed at making Frank more mature when you gave him dialogue even a 12 year old would find immature.
Capcom Vancouver*
"But our research data with teens around 15 show that,..." *shotgun shot*
Steve Perrin i'm Canadian and i'm ashamed of us
"Well set my balls on fire. What the shit happened here?"
They took inspiration from Michael Scott.
The reason everyone liked Frank is because he took everything seriously and you the player can make him do stupid things
If I want to play him in a Dress.
I just like it. XD
If I want to beat a zombie to death with a dildo, I WILL!
Yeah and his character progression in Off The Record was perfect. He was always arrogant and prideful in the first game and so a post Willamette Frank West would act very much like he did in Off The Record
*shoots zombies with a flaming marshmellow launcher while naked*
I covered wars you know!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah but the worst saving survivors with dumb ass ai.
Dead Rising 1 wrote Frank's character extremely well, and you could see the progression as the story went on. The best example of this IMO is his encounter with Kent, the rival photographer. Kent's character was similar to Frank's in the sense that he was cocky, arrogant, and also looking for the scoop of a lifetime, but Kent was willing to go over the top to achieve his goals. So much so that he kidnaps Tad to zombify him on camera just so he can get his shots, but Frank stops him. Frank realizes at this point in the story that getting his scoop isn't as important as saving innocent people and getting them out of Willamette. It's honestly great storytelling and character growth. It's why I can't forgive the developers for what they did to Frank. It isn't even him at this point.
Awesome Frank!
That's why I Love ❤ Frank in the first game.
He didn't want to hurt innocent people.
"You old sack of crap!"
-Sigma King Kent
dev personality: "Its just like dead rising 1"
reporter: "oh yeah how so?"
*personality turns to the person behind him and wispers*
dev personality: "Help i don't even know what a dead rising is!, what whats in dead rising 1 that is in what ever we made??"
person: "uh... uh just just say... zombies.... and ... the main characters have the same name"
Crowbcat has honored you
@@billymanziel5666 oh wow.. i didn't even put that much thought into it
Congrats on being the first comment crowbcat has hearted, its trulet an honor
@@anangryaustralian8518 pretty sure he's hearted comments many times before on other videos
@@docchoc2407 hard to find ngl, if so it would take awhile
How the fuck is this Frank "more mature"?
Yeah, I don't remember a supposedly immature Frank in DR1 cracking sex jokes and making silly faces in degenerative selfies.
strelok Age does not equal maturity.
strelok He is ?! Could've fooled me, sure as fuck doesn't behave as one.
Wanna know how aging reflects on a iconic character ? Play Metal Gear Solid 4.
Yeah I remember him as the guy who covered wars, y'now?
Jimmy De'Souza Yes, it also is not. It is also reflected in Snake's way of talking (Hayter's delivery), stress meter affecting gameplay and overall theme of the game about old generation ridding the new of a horror it caused. It is not just a sneaky way of making a character look cooler, it's much more then that.
Dude when they were describing frank by cursing nonstop was the equivalent of the "hello fellow kids" meme.
It’s so damn corny.
A bunch of corporate dudes who were under the impression that they’ve developed a sense of humor from watching The Office and How I Met Your Mother, but realized they weren’t as funny or witty as they thought they were, so they elected to use curse words as a means to seem more funny and relatable to the young kids.
It’s like taking a chair and sitting in it backwards while trying to “rap” to kids about how drugs aren’t cool. Lol
@@steverogers7601 lmao facts
@@steverogers7601 the office and how i met your mother is exactly the type of sitcom retards like the producer watch
How do you do, fellow kids is the exactly quotation but who cares.
@@igorz4582 . The Office was actually really good tbh. It just should have ended in Season 5 with Michael selling the company and retiring to be a motivational speaker and the film crew having enough footage to leave finally. The Office got stupid and was milked to death after Season 5. I'd say that Season 2 was probably the best season overall. Just random stuff like Micheal grilling his foot and showing up at the office.
It’s amazing to me how they made almost every incorrect choice completely confidently
We did a lot of research and made this with a modern audience in mind.
- death nail for any franchise
It's either "death knell" or "final nail in the coffin".
"Death knell" means the ringing of a bell to announce a death. "Final nail in the coffin" means the last step before burying/ignoring/abandoning something.
Either could work here but you've mixed them into something that doesn't 😅
@@renjithjoseph7135 thats crazy, let me look for my fucks to give
"Frank is such an amazing character and is so awesome."
Translation: "we were out of ideas"
Too bad I couldn't steer them in the right direction. We would have had an amazing game
Nigga
It's funny because Vick as a character could have held her own game with Frank as a mentor character
@@barbashop_380 laff
@@SteveJonesGamingGWO probably
"We are going back to our DR1 roots."
Translation: it's set in a mall.
It isn’t even
Funny thing is that 98% of the game takes place outside the mall
“Our roots”
These bozos had NOTHING to do with the series before 4 and 4 killed their studio lol
"Back to our roots; the game really makes you FEEL like batman"
And has frank but at the same time doesnt
In Dead Rising 2: OTR, Frank does one immature thing in the story mode. When the traitor is revealing the plan, Frank one-hand claps like its lips flapping to make fun of the villain monologuing. It was a silly moment to show he's heard this speech before and knew it wasn't important. In that way, it showed how experienced Frank was since he already knew what the villain's deal was.
Even then that version of frank wasn’t canon. He still seemed true to his old self in case west though. The canon take on Frank in dr2.
That boss battle is also comically exaggerated in its execution, so it fits well there
It’s incredible how people who had absolutely no idea what dead rising is, got to make a dead rising game
The reason everyone loved frank was because he took everything so seriously while dressed as a megaman robot hitting zombies with a literal lightsaber. When you make him act silly, it starts to lose its magic.
the reason DR is great is because its a scary game...where you can wear a dress, it has a scary story with fun gameplay
i loved him because of how corny and full of himself he was
Same with the setting. It was cool because it was a normal world, the one we all live in, but with zombies everywhere. It was believable. They turned it into an absurd clown world...with zombies in it.
@@semimad100 yeah and as the story grew he became a bit more humbled. had such a cool arc.
He was also just a normal person that walked passed you on the sidewalk. he isn't a badass zombie slayer, he's an ordinary guy who's an avid photographer and reporter lol.
"We changed the voice actor because we wanted him to be more mature"
Adds the option for a 50 year old to take selfies
lol 50 year old that literally is a photographer, it kind of is his job, plus he likes killing zombies using unrealistic weapons :P wtf you on about, they were talking about a mature voice, not mature action, TBH this vid is just being nitpicky.
"more mature" doesn't revolve just around voice, but physical development,age. : IE( fully developed physically; full-grown. < which this is the definition.
Hey, NMS didn't sucked. I'm not a fan boy, and though it had a rough launch, it's getting updates and patches as we speak. And Sean all of the sudden stopped promising things left and right. The lesson has been learned.
But 50yo man making selfies? Selfies in videogames? This is where we are now guys, feel it.
The lesson has not been made, more like "the money has been made".
You're implying that taking selfies is immature, which is absurd.
Everything this guy says sounds like a cope. “We did a lot of research.” “We asked the fans.” “We did a lot of testing”
Lmao this guy is so full of it
They probably just told him what to say and is being pressured by the higher ups. Still don’t get a dude who hasn’t worked on any dead rising to talk about the new dead rising!
@@MorkedUP1 the real tragedy here was making this guy the PR spokesman again. It should’ve just kept quiet and the game wouldn’t be hated as much. It’s actually not a terrible game, it’s just, ehhh
The part that gets me is they keep calling it "our game" these people werent at the beginning and pretend like theyve been there
"We are going back to our roots"
-Removing inventory management
-No Escorting survivors
-Time constraints
-No Terence J. Rotolo
-No psychopaths
-No bathroom save locations
-No multiple endings
Lars MacReady it has multiple endings br0
Will Shults Oh forgive me. Still a huge departure from the "roots."
Lars MacReady I liked escorting survivors, the psychopaths we're annoying but they filled alot of gaps and added content, it was fun to try and save everybody I remebr they had list of survivors it was fun to kind of try and collect them all by the end of the game, it was kind of annoying to make the milkshakes and stuff but it was more anoying to gather a brick of guns go out finish a fight go back if like to see that change why I could just grab more ammo instead of two shotguns I don't know, the time constraints we're kind of annoying but at the same time it pushed the narrative, i liked the rewards system I feel is missing from games it was cool to get an achievement and because of that I got unlocks and more damage etc the next time I played through loved it in dead rising and in dead space. I don't really like the weapon crafting or the vehicle combos they seemed kind of pointless especially went I got a full load of guns, if like to see more interaction with survivors like defending the base or something.
Lars MacReady I do agree its really not like dead rising. I'm prob gonna still check it out just to get a second opinion, trying hard (really hard) not to be biased xD
Lars MacReady There are Psychopaths
How will gamers know our game is edgy if we don't swear every two seconds while promoting it?
yup
Fuckin Cornballs
Thanks to Deadrising 1 I was the only kid in my elementary school who had chill, jazz-funk elevator music stuck in their head. I wouldn’t change a thing.
That music was the bessssttt
Frank in the first game is a 36 year old veteran photojournalist and these idiots felt the need to make him more “mAtUrE”
and ironically made him more immature. no self respecting adult makes garbage "that's what she said" jokes
Frank maturing in the devs minds:
-Acts like a teenager
-Lives out of sarcasm
-Sounds dumber than ever
“He’s mellowed with age”
Shows footage of him taking a shitty selfie
REMEMBER SELFIES??????
He was more mature in the first game.
@@jamesedleymusic Exactly. Frank didn't goof around in the first game. He remain serious and focus at all time. It's the player that goof around in the sandbox.
@@phearamax4146 Mellow imo was Frank settling down with a wife two kids everything going well for after he broke the news and someone with a grudge or his student pulling him back to another case.
The person would send him a tip that the outbreak is happening near his home town giving a reason to have the family out of the game. (frank would either get them to safety or have someone he trusts take care of them or if Frank hook up with Isabella she could've a DlC where she take care of the children while taking down zombies)
but a down on his luck Frank is hat the decide to give us.
Players just want to mess around.
*Takes out everything that you can mess around with.*
TheVeryShyguy *sells it back to you as DLC*
TheVeryShyguy sure thing in the onother dr games evrything is a weapon even toys and the combo weapons were good criative and "realistic" like the "pegasus " its a hourse stick whif fireworks but in dr3 things start to go a bit off and in dr4 they trow evrything out of the window like siriosly a hammer whif granades? for what blow my face and hands off?
sonic ZX you know that was in dr3 tho lol that specific sledgehammer grenade combo? Other than that I kinda know what you mean, though that doesn’t make sense, it works still, a lot of the weapons in 4 and even some 3 just don’t make any sense.
The best Combo weapons were in the second game. The ones in the third and fourth were fourth wall breaking. A sledgehammer with grenades ? A sledgehammer with an electric battery ?
Vehicle combo vehicles were beyond stupid too
@@Deadsea_1993 There were a few ridiculous combo weapons in 2 like the lightsaber weapon, but most of them felt relatively realistic if a little insane. Even the flaming weapons in that game felt more realistic (although still insane) than the elemental weapons in the later games. From the footage i have seen of 3 and 4 it seems most of them are totally ridiculous and completely over the top. 4 Seems especially guilty of this.
Dead rising suffered from the exact same disease as saint row series had. Devs who believed the small amount of wacky gameplay should be front and center for gameplay and story.
I'm playing DR 1 for the first time, and I absolutely loving it, the rush with survivors and cases deadline mechanics. Even tho AI are kinda bad. But the potential was amazing for that time. DR 4 seems like mindless chore compared to it. 💀
It is literally trash in comparison, these guys know nothing about dead rising or even making a decent game 💀 it it by far the world entry to any of these triple a games that I call my favorite, Bioshock Infinite seems like a masterpiece compared to trash like this, I don't even think the devs LIKED their own game
@@imonke5303 i wouldnt dare mention bioshock infinite with the same sentence as dead rising 4, if bioshock infinite could shit, that shit is better than dead rising 4
DR4 IS a mindless chore compared to it. It is even more repetitive than an Ubisoft game and the content is more lackluster than even something like Assassin's Creed Valhalla or Far Cry 6.
“Frank is mature.”
Frank: :D or :P or :3
Actually its cringier
Frank is a fucking clown lmao.
What would your genuine reaction be if he unironicaly said "do you know de way" as another reoccurring joke?
:v
@@lowhp_comic I'd break the disc. End of story
"We removed the time limit so that players could actually explore the stores and such"
Doesn't do much good when you can't pick up most of the stuff in the stores now huh.
NovaThief dude no time limit in the other games would be nice and should be a cheat code XD
@@jeffgarton2551 There's a sandbox mode on DR2! 😉
CAKE! Bro I got it then storms hit and my power been out since. Smh. Power came back on today going home to play some games now
Except you can.
@@GloriousVibe Except you can't.
the meeting before the interview.. "Alright guys, make sure you use curse words when talking about frank. We wanna seem hip but also bad ass."
Video: He was the art director on Ghost Recon...
Me: Hey, that's pretty respectable.
Video: ...for the Wii
"We're going back to our roots."
9/10 times this is a red flag.
i think that the only game franchise that actually made a good "back to the roots" type game is Valve and developers of Total war series
@@Sven-ql3chThe only thing valve has ever kept ‘at its roots’ is CS and the only reason is because it’s one of the oldest esports games ever. You change the formula you change the sport and the players don’t like change after 10000 hours of practice.
@@joddog well, half life went back to its roots and it did it pretty well
@@Sven-ql3ch half life 2 was completely different to the original and Black Mesa was a valve engine mod that indie developers created. Alex is in VR. I don’t get your point
@@joddog It doesnt have to be the same as original, thats not what "going back to the roots" stands for, it means that the franchise is going back to the old story and ocasionally improves gameplay. Half life came back after over a decade.
Q: "Does DR4 still have [insert feature from DR1]?"
A: "No, because the fans didn't want it."
5c21p7 k177y smh they ruined it🤦🏾♂️
opizza We didn’t want Dead rising 4
Give me my fucking psychos back
I want to know who they talked to, was it the people that only played the Wii version?? Wtf
So no fun?
If dead rising 5 was ever to be made, it would be amazing if they showed something like DR4 was fake and some lame movie all along. And the real frank west voiced by TJ Rotolo making fun of it for being so bad.
Honestly had that idea when thinking about a Dead Rising sequel. Had three ideas for it and two involved DR4 just being a crappy movie. One of the ideas was a completely new character and 'Hank East' would be a psycho you could fight and potentially save as he lost it over how bad his movie flopped. The other idea was that you played as 'Hank East' but you were actually him instead of him trying to play Frank West where its revealed he actually wanted to do a good movie but studio interference fucked it up but now he has a chance to actually live like his hero by making it out of an actual outbreak. I like the idea that 'Hank East' could be redeemed in some way, either as a cool psycho boss you can save or as his own character you can play and have him be cool on his own instead of being Not Frank West.
A DR5 was in development. The Vancouver team was developing in secret and siphoned some budget from DR4 to work on it. When word got to the higher ups, Capcom was so fed up with the shenanigans the team pulled over the previous years that they shut down the project and later folded the company.
If a dead rising 5 was made, it should start off with frank reacting to dead rising 4 , and all the events in 4 was just a badly made movie, and frank reacts to it saying "what the hell is this crap?" or some bs, and they should esculate the level of threat, another mall would work but they need some good writers to pull off the next game being good (if dead rising will ever come back ofc)
There is a leaked gameplay for canceled DR 5...
I'll just say that it's a good thing that it was cancelled. VERY good thing.
There are Dead Rising Movie posters across Dead Rising 4.
Jim sterling gave this game an 8/10
I seriously question that guy's taste.
I don't ever remember Frank being funny
Renegade Bond he kind of was on OTR
Deviction I thought he was more sarcastic
Renegade Bond oh yeah definitely but he did have some sense of humor, even if it was a very small percentage.
Deviction he made shitty one liners cause they were horrible jokes
Osmosis Jones on off the record or this game?
The directors of Dead Rising 4 just look like discount clones of each other
Jack Simpson lol
Or just people that go to Starbucks more than the average white girl
They are SJW people, what do you expect ? They had nothing to do with a prior Dead Rising game. The head director even said "In the past you'd help someone and they would run away". That might be true in Dead Rising 3 with stranded random encounters, but Off The Record and earlier games had people join your party and you could escort them to a safe house, kill them, or let them get killed and watch them turn or get eaten alive. That was part of the charm in Dead Rising games. In a recent playthrough in Off The Record, I killed Janus and I killed the CEO guy to take their briefcase of money. Instead of saving them and only getting a small percentage of it, I chose to take the entire 100 thousand plus dollars.
I didn't even realize they were different people
It’s just funny valentine
The amount of times they said "we did our research" "we read the fan feedback" "this was something the fans wanted" and then saying something absolutely absurd that they changed about the game
“frank is back”
literally a completely different person
also they said they were listening to feedback constantly in all the interviews and they literally did every single thing that they possibly could that no one asked for
That's not Frank West.
That's Hank East.
DR Creator: So we wanna make Frank more mature...Because you know a man on his fifties,having survived a zombie Outbreak,will ask for fit bumps and also take selfies and make horrible puns every cinematic or boss fight. Mature AF
The Tzar YES they make frank sound like some badass when really he was terrified and just confused about everything and just cuz he could beat zombies ass hard doesn't mean he is a badass i think they just did that to make the game fun and still have a story with an intresting protagonist
In Case West he was more of a "fallen hero" than Dead Rising 4 could've ever portrayed him as.
Anyone ever notice how whenever a game’s marketing strategy is like an edgy “Fuck you our game is bad ass!”, the game always fails.
Looks at Cyberpunk 2077.....
They did that for the DmC reboot and it was a commercial failure.
Hell, it even applies to food and soft drinks. Think of all the "XTREME" brands in grocery stores that used to exist circa 2000.
Except Doom Eternal
@@BlackbirdSJ and borderlands 2
If the devs says "we wanna go back to our roots" they actually dont know whats the game's roots
>its not fun to try and rummage through your backpack for a cheeseburger while trying to save the world while zombies are attacking you
But thats like the definition of Dead Rising, and why its fun
Franks back!
But he sounds different ...
And he looks different ...
And he acts different ...
And he's basically a different character at this point ...
But he's still Frank!
Even the wars he covered are different...
Wars on gender and equality...
He's back in Willamette! But it looks different. Feels different. Is built differently. People act differently.
It's basically a different place at this point.
But it's still Willamette!
He is hank east
Still played by the same guy
"Let's curse so the tweenagers think we're cool and hippity hip!"
@@georgiestuff tweenagers
People sound like inarticulate morons when they cuss all the time.
@@georgiestuff tweenagers
@@georgiestuff tweenagers
@@georgiestuff sreganeewT
What I love about your channel is that you stay true to a basic element of story telling. Show, don’t tell. You do it incredibly well. I bet I can find another video on this exact same topic but it would be someone using the same footage as you but interrupt each point with their opinions, thus muddling the message already being told to the viewer. Idk I’m baked and alone with my thoughts. This is a cry for help
"We got rid of time limits because players are frustrated that if time expired, they would have to that all over again."
BRUH IN THE PREVIOUS GAMES, THEY HAVE RESTROOMS AS SAVE POINTS ALL OVER THE MAP
honestly i absolutley hated the time limits from the remaster. it takes so long to go from place to place and if the time ends you lose everything you did is lost. especially when there are more than one quests and you might lose them because you took too long. it's not worth it.
@@explosiveass_bum5340 git gud
@@explosiveass_bum5340but that’s exactly what made the first game what it is.
Your ability to pursue tasks under stress due to a time limit is the entire selling point aside from everything being a weapon.
If you don’t like it, then it’s just not your personal preference. The game didn’t do anything wrong.
“We wanted Frank to be more mature.”
Very mature to take a selfie with an enemy before you kill them.
OG Frank would never do that. It's so dumb. Like they really dumbed down his character and I don't hate the voice actor but I still enjoy the original voice actor more.
@@Persephone01 Frank did that in OTR though.
They did a lot of research. Meaning they didn't want the original actor, because the director is a dumb hipster
@@CarvedStones It's not canon so he kinda didn't. But he kinda did.
@@blibdo3216 true
"We did alooottt of research", "We wanted to go back to the roots" -Biggest lies in gaming history
No it's not. No Man's Sky itself, as a game is. No quote even needed for that one.
now we got no man's sky, sea of thieves and destiny2 lmao
Dang this is 6 years old? Jesus
The very first thing I tried to do while playing this game was pick up a food court table and throw it. Turns out you can't. Tables are marked as a "melee" item and you can only swing it for some reason. You cannot throw any melee weapons in fact. Finding this out immediately gave me a dreadful feeling in the pit of my stomach when I first played it. This game was way too streamlined and lifeless.
Biggest issue is that they removed one of the greatest things in the game series... Psychopaths.
At east we got maniac "bosses" that have no cut-scenes, and then die to 4-5 hits from a crafted weapon.
"Evolution"!
Hunter Lauder
The removal of psychopaths was my final dealbreaker. If I ever play this game it will be as a rental.
Hunter Lauder Psychopaths are the greatest things in the entire franchise.
I Kinda wished they also kept the time mechanic Or at least make it optional.
Ryan geek
The studio director made Kinect games for kids before Dead Rising 4, that explains a lot.
YUP.
@@brandonmorel2658 what's your point? Doom was actually good and DR4 wasn't
Bazinga!
@@brandonmorel2658 - What brand of rubber cement are you on?
@@brandonmorel2658 shut up
Removing the timer was probably the biggest mistake. It added to the horror, one of the biggest fears people have is the fear of missing out and that's what previous games did so well. Not to mention that because there's no timer there's also no alternative endings, which also added to that fear. For example, you knew that in the first Deadrising that if you weren't quick enough, you would be left behind or miss out on the the main story. Or in Deadrising 2, if you weren't quick enough with zombrex then Katey would turn. It's stuff like that that really makes Deadrising a fun and challenging experience.
I never liked that timer
I liked the timer, it added a lot of urgency and realism in the game
I watched a video about a theory that dead rising was made in under a year and it totally makes sense when you think about what went wrong with this game. All the cut corners and lack of balancing combined with the reused assets and characters make is abundantly clear that there was a massive time crunch behind the scenes.
You can’t make a timer if you don’t have a reasonable understanding of how long it takes to complete missions or the game in general, you can’t write and produce unique and interesting psychopaths if you don’t have the time to write or design them (much less get a voice actor into a booth for it)
Challenging doesn’t equal fun for a lot of gamers though. Dead Rising presents you with an open world that begs to be explored, player, and experimented in but then limits your fun and experimentation with a timer and overpowered psychopaths who can somehow inexplicably shrug off a full clip of ammo to the face. Yes, you can level up and carry your progress to a new game but I don’t consider replaying the beginning of a game over and over fun.
@@izwrex5782 it forces the to rush the game when I want to take my time having fun
It's weird how they talk like they worked on the first game when they had nothing to do with its development
hey look it's buzzfeed the game
DJ Keemstar if that becomes a real thing kill me (make it long and painful if its a mobile app)
Hello fellow kids
I fucking hate buzzfeed and their shitty web series
I remember the original gave me chills and anxiety
Especially escorting the survivors back to the surveillance room at night
This shit is just saints row with zombies
This game is too easy to get stressed out about. Looking at his health bar, his nickname should be "Frank the Tank".
saints row is not bad as this shit
Saints row with zombies would be dope
Dark Arts Dabbler saints row 3 has zombies in one area
@@lethalfumes Saint Row 2 it also had but I don't remember anymore the most likely thing is that it doesn't have
Literally just play Off The Record, its basically what they wanted to make anyway. It so crazy how night and day it is, in terms of general effort and attention to detail for what's basically a reskin.
The time limit is why DR1 is so good. You can't possible experience everything the game has to offer in one run. This makes the replay value higher than most similar games. You might find a different shortcut in a run that you didn't even know was there, rescue survivors or fight psychos that you never saw before, use weapons that you didn't know were in the game. The fact that these guys look at that as a weakness says a lot about them creatively.
Also, O G dead rising was ground breaking in so many ways .. the sequels never pushed the envelope further
Well, you technically CAN experience everything in the game in one run, but it requires such an intimate knowledge of the game that there's no way you can possibly pull it off your first time playing.
@@mr.battle20. Very true and I can confirm this. The play testing for the first game is simply unbelievable as they fit everything in the game and it is possible to do it all in a run, but you've got to know the game on such a level that few will even bother. A masterpiece and my favorite game of all time. I even got the Ps4 imported Japanese version in my collection
It's always the same thing. A guy or a gal takes the head of the studio, without knowing anything about the IP that made it to success. They bring a lot of changes that no one wanted. without listening to fans or their own veterans devs. Then when the game is a faillure and badly received. Gamers are blamed for being entilted or even worse they just decide the IP they just ruined is not worth it anymore. Rinse and repeat.
Prototype 2... damn.
@@Chiave97 damn and I really enjoyed that game (still do, to be honest)
It´s like 343 studios. Adoption doesn´t usually work well lol
@@cactusmalone funny enough I played the first game (liked it) and wanted to play the second one and I enjoyed heller more.
@@Chiave97 prototype 2 was good tho
They keep saying he's older and matured, then why does he look 20 years younger and a lot less washed up? In OTR he's clearly a little older than DR1, so why is he aging backwards in 4? This isn't Frank West, it's Frank Button.
oxyKILLdone OTR isn't cannon
steven saunders Frank from OTR looked the same as he did in DR2's DLC Case West.
Panic Manic I thought case west wasn't cannon since it took place after ending B
It took place after Ending A and is the canon ending.
TheDeadSaloon so overtime mode isn't cannon in that game? Weird
Who did they ask for feedback?
Those "Dead Rising fans" aren't really fans if they hate the time elements, the way food is managed (it's a survival game ffs), having to make tough choices based on time constraints and playing the game over and over again because every single time it's different
Are you really a fan if you hate every single element that sets it apart from your generic open world game?
My guess is either they requested feedback from game journalists, or Joe Nickolls himself just decided what they were going to focus on.
I can't think of any other testing group that has played any previous Dead Rising and requested ALL of the core features be taken out.
This completely sold me on Dead Rising (the first one)
How to make Dead Rising better according to Devs -
- More Zombies
- More Zombies
- More Zombies
- Remove interesting parts
- Add useless features
- Selfies
- More Zombies
- Remove Frank's personality and make him extremely unlikeable
- More Zombies
- Completely ruin all immersion when it comes to psychopaths and replace them with some side quest mini-bosses without cutscenes
- More Zombies
You forgot more zombies
@@shpadhy5974 but what about more zombies?
@@datenshidt2412 yeah ur right
How could they
I would’ve loved it it there was more zombies
Does anyone else not understand this whole “Frank is back” thing? Like... he’s appeared in every iteration of dead rising in some form lol. Except in 4 he’s completely unrecognizable
He was not in Dead Rising 3.
@@hardspumoni6940 he was playable in the dlc. I know it's just a side mode but the DR4 devs act like he's been absent for years lol
@@Bread_Bug They probably don't even know this, because they're new and mustn't have played the previous games. They don't seem like very passionate people, making generic games.
FRANK... IS... BACK!!!!
i dont remember him being in 2?
"We did alot of research and received feedback from fans and we found out that dying in the game upset the players, so we removed dying from the game."
"We listened to the fans and tried our hardest to remove replayability"
😅
7:42 "people don't want to play it again to get that one other thing"
*Inserts unnecessary PP trial to kill 250,000 zombies that would take hours of mindless, boring grinding*
it's all about killin zombies dude! just really layin into em!
As I hear this I hope somebody in the comments was like "what?"
Which is for an achivement
@@charlesd-wayne9449 that requires more than 6 hours of non stop killing
At least DR1 isn't that bad in that regard as it was only about 1/5 of what you need to kill in DR4 plus the unlockable weapon is worth it.
We all want the Frank West from Dead Rising 1. The natural, quiet badass he was and was new to everything, and seemed scared almost but never gave up. Not some edgy 45 year old meme page admin who spends his money on OnlyFans and works a mediocre job
But that's not what the "players" wanted.
DR2 OTR Frank was also great, same Frank just more of a has been, aswell as being older, well and fatter. It isn't Frank without Terence Rotolo thats for sure.
Off The Record was a wonderful character progression for Frank, even if it wasn't canon. TJ was better than ever in that game. TJ is Frank. Just let Frank stand around in the first game or Off The Record. TJ had his mannerisms down to a science with at times sounding annoyed or the stretching groans.
Damn shame
Onlyfans 😂🤔
I think they confused frank west with ash Williams
The problem with dead rising 4 is that they over-simplified things that was fine before in dead rising 1.
"were going back to the roots"
*all roots are removed
malarky345 All they say is PR bullshit. "Respect, roots, Frank's back, fan feedback." They just ooze bullshit from the beginning of every interview to the end. Makes me fucking sick.
"We're going back to our roots to sever them"
For good reason. Go back and play the first one. Dark souls honestly feels like a vacation in comparison to the joyless time management hell and broken ai escort missions that not only make you rage quit, but rage destroy your controller. It hasn't aged well in any regard.
+N Ben you should get leadership book from bookstore
N Ben, you are absolutely right about how people are super-oblivious to how janky DR1 and DR2 both were.
No time limit because people didn't want the pressure of having to do lots of things under a short amount of time?? That's the best part!
I got a legitimate rush from having to save 8 survivors at once because there was no time to go back to the safe house. You actually achieved something due to good planning and perseverance. this game looks so shitty
good for you, you like rushing around. some of us like to take our time and enjoy other aspects of the game though.
well beat the game and unlock infinity mode
I dunno why they only had Sandbox Mode for one game, it would have really satisfied almost everyone if that was an option in games after OTR. But nah, we got a bunch of idiot hipster canucks developing DR4.
TonyTonsils IKR!!!
@DobbinsVault There are plenty of zombies game out there just for you! Leave our franchise alone you "mainstream" or "casual" player.
i exaggerate a lot. But i genuinely feel the DR franchise would have been better off just ending after 3 and not creating DR4 at all. I would usually say getting a bad game is better than not getting a game at all.. but somehow this team truly did the impossible.
Dead Rising 3 wasn’t the best but the ending is satisfying as hell for me. We found the cure! We won! That’s the end
@@q.h.s5051 yeah the ending was alright. DR3 would've actually ended the series on a positive note despite being not as good as 1 or 2 in terms of overall quality, but still it was pretty fun on its on. Just which boss battles werent so pathetic and that Nick wasn't so unbearable until the end of the game.
“We talked to fans” - man who has never talked to a fan of anything in his life
3:08 Has he ever played dead rising? Survivors didnt “take off”... you escorted them to a safe house
that shit he said made me so fucking angry because it's completely fucking false
he said it like you do their quest and suddenly they puffed-out of existence
but that wasn't true at all, survivors you saved would chill-out in the saferoom until the end of the game
and they would thank you whenever they saw you, or just interract with each-others
it felt like you were saving actual-peoples
in dr3 they took off running, dr 1+ 2 you would escort them. so they aren't looking back at their roots, they're looking at the last game which is obvious when you play dr4 as half the game mechanics from 3 makes a return
Franks facial expressions when taking selfies look like the same expressions i make on molly
@Roolingball I still play dead rising 3 from time to time but I’ve never even really considered doing more than one play through of 4
@@hellalan underrated comment
Dead Rising was about survival and using anything as a weapon to scrape on by.
It's always been crap.
Maybe, but it wasn't this kind of crap.
Exactly. Like, when the fuck where there EXOSUITS on DR1. The most fantastical it ever went was with the bonus non-canon items. But now we get electric axes and supercars????? The slow item management and small inventory size was also a great aspect of the survival element. It was super simple to use, and it forced you to make choices between health and weapons.
I like my dildo machine gun
You can't being serious... survival? it was all about messing around with ridiculous weapons and outfits like a lego head... i do agree they gone a bit too far with laser guns and stuffs like that, but you shouldn't expect anything serious from it and at the end it's all about fun killing zombies in different ways. And let's not forget this isn't a DR1 reboot but a Dead Rising 3 sequell, it's a new game.
From what I could find, the actual dev team knew full well the the game was going to blow. The head developer, a woman,that was on since dead rising 2 was bullied out, a massive disconnect from capcom and microsoft, elimininating of "Psyopaths " for "Maniacs" because they didnt want to hurt any feelings because people snaping during a crisis doesn't exist; the new leads being nothing more than corporate yes-MEN (GJ microsoft) that were so pussy whipped to bring anything up also didn't help. In essence, this game was nothing more than a sacrificial lamb.
13:30 That Burger Analogy is Bullshit. Look at any successful burger place. It always has the classic burger for a reason.
count how many times hes says "we brought frank back" and "were listening to the fans". oh and "were going back to our roots"
Realgigclin "our" lmao
"we did a lot of research"
And everytime they say those words they lose their original meaning and become nothing.
The moment I hear "we've gone back to our roots" is the exact moment I know the franchise has lost it's identity. It's a desperate attempt to hype people into pre-ordering with hollow assurance.
Yes, yes, I know they said that about Doom and it worked out perfectly, but Doom 2016 is an anomaly of gaming.
Bosskelott By that, I think they meant they watched Pewdiepie and/or Jacksepticeye play that last game and based it off how they played it.
Hitman devs: “We’re going back to our roots”
*goes back to their roots*
Dead Rising devs: “We’re going back to our roots”
*goes off a cliff*
To be honest Hitman didn't go back to their roots, after Absolution and realizing most wanted another Blood Money that's what they did. The new ones aren't anything like the first 3 which were linear, had a select few options to deal with targets and who's maps while decently sizes depending on the level weren't large by any stretch. That's not even to mention that the enemies are dumb as a brick, which while they've always been the linearity and constantly being on guard made up for it somewhat in the previous games. Being able to dunp bodies in boxes and dressers to has made it much easier than having to find an out of the way place to drag it in the first 3.
The devs of this game had absolutely nothing to do with the original game so them going back to their roots is probably sipping Starbucks and doing absolutely nothing of value.
@Max Damage so turn up the difficulty then...you're not forced to play this already good game casually.
@Max Damage I mean,I don't really see the problem with health regen,instead of having to sacrifice an item slot for some healing items you just regen health,plus that if you don't play this game casually or as a shooter then it won't even make that big of a difference
@@CThyran truth to be told, m8, I've completed the first 4 hitmans like 5 times each- and some codename 47 and silent assasin mechanics are straight and unfair/unfunny to play garbage. I'm glad they chose that direction.
So pretty much they removed every aspect that made the game unique. The escort time limit, random object customization, food customization and Frank's identity. I hate when developers remove "hard mechanics" because they think it'll please players and open the game up to casual players.
Quote directly taken from the game's Steam page: "All of the classic hallmarks of the ground breaking series return"
- no time limit
- no escorting survivors
- no zombie behaviour being affected by day/night cycle
- no multiple endings
- no TJR
- no bathroom save locations
- no psychopaths
"All if the classic hallmarks" indeed...
It's always awkward when a developer speaks on a gamers behalf "this is what they want" and they couldn't be further from the truth.
The actual fans aren't complaining because they walked away after 3. Like me. I'm disappointed, but I'm not gonna complain.
I'm halfway through watching this on my PS4 but went to my PC just to see if someone had mentioned this!
"No-one wants the old food system" OH, REALLY?? Thanks for forcing my opinion, I agree! I mean who liked having tension and having to heal at a smart time and possibly combine foods to make better healing items that also took up less space, anyway? AMIRITE?!?
Fuck these guys. And who the fuck are these "fans" they supposedly talked to who agree with them on every front despite it being the absolutely opposite of everything that makes Dead Rising unique??
Anyone got a table I can flip? I'm pissed off now.
The only time it seemed to work was during the creation of Left 4 Dead and such were they actually thought about “what would be fun for the player”
Probably because they weren’t trying to appease everyone
Is this dead rising 4 or a saints row 4 dlc?
Kermit The Froggo man you made me cry when you wrote saints row 😭😢
RIght? it was so good to till 3 ruined it
3 was... alright. it still was saints row. but i played and completed 4 for the first time this year, and wtf. talk about jumping the shark. no wonder there hasn't been any news of a sequel yet
JackRichard It's only been a few fucking days since the game released, you honestly think they would announce a sequel right after the game released, that's stupid.
i thought acex222 was talking about saints row, chill out man
0:30 Frank is literally 10x more immature in 4 than the original. He had his quips, but he was always a journalist with serious regard for his job and what's happening. Now he might literally be brain damaged because he has no awareness for the situation at hand and is just a magic-8 ball of shitty one liners. The DR4 devs misinterpret Frank West's character the same way 343 misinterpreted Master Chief.
Although in opposite scenarios, taking Frank West from an interesting and damaged journalist into a "badass" and Master Chief from Badass into a damaged "complex" veteran.
“We did a lot of testing” who tf were they testing?
Developers in 2000s : is this game fun enough?
Developers in 2020s : is this game monetized enough?
This was 2016/17 tho
Developers in 2010s: Is the game monetized enough?*
Publishers: _"What do we have to say to get the unwashed masses to buy our product?"_
@@jblazerndrowzy I can forgive most of them back then SINCE FUCKING CONTENT WASNT BEHIND A PAYWALL THAT NEED MICROTRANSACTIONS
Ugh this is painful lol
Frank was more mature in the first game
I would say this "version" of Frank should be in first game and in 4th game the mature one. I´ve seen the gameplay and I would say It´s not bad.
Miroslav Zíma I would still buy the game and enjoy it... But it bugs me.
Jude Robson Well, when you have people constantly not take you seriously in being a photojournalist or disprove of all the work you've done, you're bound to just not take their shit anymore. Frank's been through many hardships besides being an outbreak survivor. Life happens, even though this is fiction.
DreamRavingZord but what the hell has frank been up to after Deadrising 1 besides getting famous.
Jude Robson I don't think you've read the comics.
the whole point of the time limit was that you couldnt see everything in one playthrough, so you had to play it again. hence, replay value