You still need the digital patches and dlc for modern games and for online game the servers. So fake yourself as much as you want but I accepted I can lose my games but never have to store physical games in my house or change a disk. Just like buying a movie or concert ticket
Near the end I thought of "The medium is the message" a phrase coined by media theorist Marshall McLuhan and how I had never quite fully applied that to the idea of video games
Kids today grew up in a digital world and will never experience what it was like, buying physical media. How ever, my 4 year old daughter loves physical media because I've got all of my stuff. She loves cassette tapes! 😊
Do you mean to say “babies today”? Because kids today are still able to buy new/used physical media. A good amount of new releases are still on physical media. Specially if you want special, limited, and collectors editions with extras. Plus, not everyone(kids) can afford to keep adding digital media storage space as more games come out
I’m in my 40’s, I personally think this “so called” digital era is crap. Whenever I buy something I wanna own it. Same goes for music gear. They pull the same crap. We need to keep physical media alive and well. If I wanted to pay for the experience, I’d get a hooker!
I’m a fan of playing roms through jailbreaking means and console ODEs. I only collect for PS4/PS5, and 4k blu-rays of games/movies I actually really like. So my collection is very specific now.
I must own physical media! I'm an 80s kid and I love retro games cassette tapes and CDs! How ever due to space my VHS collection had to come to an end.
Literally happened to me with Spider-Man on PS5. They pulled it from the store and even though I downloaded it, it doesn’t work anymore. That was my lesson to only buy physical now.
You mentioned theme parks and paying for JUST the experience and memories and drew a comparison between that and digital; you also mentioned that the physicality of media could possibly be just a construct of confinement. I challenge you, sir, to think FURTHER outside the box and consider the INVERSE as I do: The EXPERIENCE of standing in line on the day/night a game launches, anxiously waiting to be one of the first ones in your area to own a copy, can be LIKENED to enjoying JUST the experience at an amusement park or baseball game. Full disclosure: when I think back to when I owned Assassin's Creed III and Black Flag my FIRST thought is how my wife pre-ordered each of them for me and I went straight from work to GameStop to wait for them to launch so I could own them. I know that sounds silly but THOSE are fond memories for me- like going to Aquatica with my family.
Physical media 100% if your game dies like my Nintendo did years ago I kept all the games now I’m back into it if all that stuff was saved on a hard drive and I threw it away. It all be gone.
Maybe, if the game is about to go away on the store, they have to send you a physical copy, before they do so. This means, they only have to send the amount that was ordered, Or have a store front that you can go and pick up you copy. Its a thought...
Like you I end up riding the fence on this topic. I love my physical collection; but I play a lot of digital games too. I think I keep nostalgic items around as small tokens to bring back memories tied to the games. A lot of the games remind me of old friends, family and a variety of life experiences that somehow got tied to the physical games. My collection helps me share experiences and beliefs with my kids. For me, the experiences are most important. Physical games and collectables serve as guide posts that outline my experience in gaming and life.
As my kids are getting old enough to enjoy games and are playing Minecraft and Roblox, I am concerned about the digital side and am introducing them to “retro games” and they are shocked they don’t need to buy upgrades or pay to unlock features.
Reality, even if you buy physical media, you often do not own your games, because: - The box only has a digital code to download the game. - There's a disc, but it only has a few files, the actual game must be downloaded and the disc is only a key. - Sometimes, only parts of the game are available on disc, you can play without internet, but not the full game. - You can play the game without internet with just a disc, but not the good version of the game, because at launch, the game is full of problems and you need to download a patch later or there's a patch since day 1. - Sometimes, the patch is so big that you are almost downloading the whole game. - You still need to connect to the internet to buy and download DLC. - To play online, you need to download the most recent version. - Many games are online-only, require a constant connection to the internet, even on single-player, and to make things worse, the servers often close, making your physical copy a paperweight.
Everything you mention here is just a sign of the times. Game studios these days release games before they're ready, that's why they need all the patches to fix it. Old PC games required a few patches at most, with most big changes coming in the form of expansions. It used to be the case the game would entirely be on the disc
I'm sick of large monolithic services like social media and gaming companies that make billions and spend it all on BS (like DEI initiatives, yoga rooms, etc.). What happened to the customer is king? Give us proper support!! Not some endless support forum hunt, or email back and forths with no resolution. You would think with billions, they can afford to provide basic support. If it's a smaller operation, then at least there's an excuse. No excuse if they're spending on silly internal initiatives rather than providing the support for where their income is coming from. That should be priority.
No the way they treat digital media is completely wrong… if it’s stated as a purchase they should never have the rights to pull them from the store (even if licenses to the rights expire) they should always be left up to redownload incase of hard drive fail or a replacement console. I would completely have no issues with digital if they were housed on a cloud correctly. Almost like a digital game room. I wouldn’t even mind paying a yearly fee for it.
Physical media will always be better to me. When Steam removed over 200 games from my account without warning, I knew it was just a licensed based deal. This was a year before they announced that you were just buying a license to play the games. I own most of the systems that Nintendo has made up to the original Wii console. I also have all the Playstation consoles up to the PS4, The sega consoles and even an original Odyssey 2 system with a couple of games. Knowing that some company can never take away what I bought is the best. I still get digital games and will be buying everything I can on GOG that I have on Steam. At least I can backup my game purchases on my massive external drive when bought on GOG.
Interesting video. I am both a physical and digital media gamer/collector. But, about your last point when looking at games as an "experience" rather than "ownership", physical media is hands-down the better experience. When I play retro games I am looking to recreate an experience, I felt when I was younger that emulation or a digital version cannot fully recreate. I would like to give you an example, Medieval on the PS1 can be played now both digitally and physically. But, nothing beats the experience of playing it on the original hardware, you will notice the little things like how they made Sir. Daniels's footsteps match with each vibration of the PS1 controller. And how vibrant the colors are when plugged into a CRT TV. However, If I play this on PC or emulation I won't be getting the vibrations of the controller or the vibrance of the colors because the game was created for that specific hardware. Now, when it comes to modern games, generally the experience of playing the game will be the same no matter what console, But, if we are still talking about "experience" then being able to look at the box art and game manual (if any), being able to unwrap/open the game and sliding the disc inside your system is still an "experience" That is authentic to physical media, that is lost when it comes to "digital". Also, when it comes to PC games, usually when installing the game from disc companies used to play thematic music and give you game tips in their launchers while installing the game, this experience is lost with digital media as now all you do is see a download bar for the games progress. No music playing or notes with game lore to get you excited to play the game. Furthermore, Aside from games, when it comes to movie collecting as well, the physical media is still the better "experience" Those movies came with extras like bloopers, TV games, commercials, and more that will be missed when streaming the movie digitally. That does not even include the fact that the picture and sound quality are better when playing from a disc rather than streaming it online. It is also weird to compare the experience of playing games to theme parks, because they are completely opposite experiences. A video game is an indoor activity, and to spend $70 dollars per video game just to be able to play the game once and not own the game is absurd. Theme parks are outdoor activities and is something people don't do every single day, so yes it would make more sense to pay up fo r extras like ticket passes, because riding rollercoasters is something you wont really be able to do at home.
I remember digital so-called ownership was going to be cheaper to buy the game versus a physical copy the way it was pitched back then. Yet that never really happened you'd still pay the same price for the physical versus the digital just at their profit margin was much higher on the digital copy versus the physical. However with newer technology coming out just around the corner allowing you to store up to 100 terabytes of data onto a single laser disk could potentially bring back physical ownership to video games, movies, and more. As a Gen xer myself who started with pong and space Invaders in the arcades have played so many computer games and console games and of acquired a very large collection throughout the years that I will still always prefer physical copies. I have been burned in the past by DRM protected music like back in the day music match and could never get all my purchases recovered plus Microsoft back in the day pulled the same stunt that Sony did with digital content for movies and music videos and such. I'd spent over $1,000 just on music videos at the time and then came back with a o ur license ran out so you don't have access to that at anymore. But I thought I owned it? But instead they gave me a 1500 Microsoft points as compensation which was ridiculous and I told him to keep it. I still buy CDs and 4K blu-rays today over any digital purchases for fear of losing access in addition to the quality for digital media still sucks in comparison to physical copies. However I do buy digital as well when it's the only option to me and a for really want it but there will always be that stigma do I really own it. It's the reason why when it comes to PC games I buy from GOG first then I consider steam and epic later depending on the title. On steam it's kind of funny how when I look at my list of games it says I own them with the word owned and they've yet to change that since steam itself said you don't own anything. Still there is something about the nostalgia I guess from having those physical copies of games on cartridge disc floppy etc. And that if my internet's down I don't need internet to play any of these games. And I guess what makes it even more nostalgic cuz I'm an original owner of about 98% of my entire collection of games still in the boxes going back to Apple 2, 2GS, commodore Amiga, commodore 64, PC DOS and Windows games still in their boxes as well. Digital purchases will always be the last choice for me either until there is no other choice or until the day I die. I get the digital has its advantages and some are legit like bug fixes, DLC content that's not on your disk, and extra content behind the scenes yada yada. Which is why in some cases I own the physical copies in addition to a GOG Witcher series with all the DLCs Plus sales on Xbox like getting the Witcher 3 digital for convenience having everything for like seven or $8. Look at the music scene how it evolved into digital from 8-track, records, cassette, reel to reel, CDs, 5.1 audio music on DVD, so many ways that it's evolved but was always on physical which still gave you the best quality offering where digital music is still rather a mixed bag of quality over quantity and is so highly debated which format is better purchase Apple, Amazon, or any other format. I personally use flac as my choice when I rip my CDs and always said it the highest quality with no compression and keep three copies some in the cloud someone on external drive and some on a local NAS. And now the original disc sits in a closet still in its case like new because it only got used once. Granted I could go on and on and why physical ownership still will always outweigh digital because too many variables still point to more positives on physical over digital because in reality can we trust these big companies holding the keys to your digital content and will they last forever is the real question.
Loved this vid! Thought-provoking with a lot of good points made. Your physical/digital media collection does spiral me into sort of a jealous rage though...but I'm working through it 🫡
I like my video games apocalyptic-proof. Well, you know, after they turn the electricity back on. I just ordered the Sonic Frontiers game on Switch (physical copy), for my kid, but we're gonna have to get the DLC, for him to play as his favorite character, Tails. God damn it.
I think people who argue in favor of purely digital at least company controlled digital media don't care about gaming or movies in the same way who prefer physical media do. People arguing in favor of licenses probably don't understand that it's a bad thing that this is the standard now. Also patching shouldn't be necessary. Just let them take longer to make if the end product is worth it. As far as DLC goes release a physical standard edition and a physical definitive edition a few months later. Imagine the amount of people who would buy both buy both because they can't wait, easy money!
I have always tried to purchase physical versions of games for the simple fact that they charge the same price for digital version and you don't own anything. Its cheaper for them to release digital but do not pass savings to their customer's. Corporate GREED is the way of our world :(
it was the opposite for me.. I was def not on board with digital in the beginning I used to give my little brother in the 360 days so much crap for buying into digital or mts but since then I’ve gotten to where I just don’t care anymore we can’t take any of it with us when we go whether it’s digital or physical it’s about the experience 🤷
Idk I really hate how digital can just be taken away from you. But then again, when I have digital, I have more games I buy cause they go on sale more. But having the physical copy makes me more likely to play.
I disagree about digital being an experience. Digital is a cornerstone of game preservation, aka rom backups. The problem is game companies are using Software as a service (SaaS) as a way to force an experience on you. Fortnite is free and is run by epic without any way for players to backup their stuff, yet games like unreal tournament can be hosted on individual player’s servers. GoG is all digital and you own the games outright on there. If you buy something from a company and their own software fails to protect your assets, it’s their responsibility to rectify the problem. If they don’t they should be open to legal repercussions. Digital or not, owning a game or a license, your right to play should still be protected. It’s not like fortnight went away; Epic’s transfer system had a glitch that caused a player who put lots of money into their system to lose access. It’s their legal responsibility to recover your paid for content. Period. And this should go for all digital media. If the company doesn’t want to support it anymore, release the server code so the game can be hosted by players. Valve does this all the time.
Thank you, I feel like both physically and digital is the way. You should be able to copy your own physical media and back it up. Physical eventually fails and disc drives are even becoming rare these days. We should make these things usable with modern hardware and software. But for now we need the option to have both.
Steam and epic have both come out and told their customers that they do not sell them a game. They sell them a license to the game and that the license can be recinded at anytime. You don't have that with physical media. That game is yours forever. Digital media in it's current form is a legit scam.
No man, you got screwed. Also an 80's kid. But in your situation I'll blame Nintendo. For the same reason my son has replaced his broken his switch and lost COUNTLESS hours in the pokemon games, which we owned physical and digital. They are archaic, and I bet somewhere between Nintendo and Epic is where his account is.
No argument here. It is plain simple.. digital downloads mean you do NOT own the game. In fact you cannot resell it or play it after current gen or at least two gens. Physical media means you can play it after 20+ years if you keep it well. I really see no argument here. Virtua console already told us what will happen if everything goes digital.
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Digital SUCKS! I wanna own my games, for real !!!!! Not this subscription bullshit!!!
You still need the digital patches and dlc for modern games and for online game the servers. So fake yourself as much as you want but I accepted I can lose my games but never have to store physical games in my house or change a disk. Just like buying a movie or concert ticket
Near the end I thought of "The medium is the message" a phrase coined by media theorist Marshall McLuhan and how I had never quite fully applied that to the idea of video games
Physical and your experience is one reason why.
Kids today grew up in a digital world and will never experience what it was like, buying physical media. How ever, my 4 year old daughter loves physical media because I've got all of my stuff. She loves cassette tapes! 😊
Do you mean to say “babies today”? Because kids today are still able to buy new/used physical media. A good amount of new releases are still on physical media. Specially if you want special, limited, and collectors editions with extras. Plus, not everyone(kids) can afford to keep adding digital media storage space as more games come out
i like digital but if the company does take the game away from me, im just gunna pirate it back.
I’m in my 40’s, I personally think this “so called” digital era is crap. Whenever I buy something I wanna own it. Same goes for music gear. They pull the same crap. We need to keep physical media alive and well. If I wanted to pay for the experience, I’d get a hooker!
I agree with you. I grew up with it and cherish it. But I think we pay for far more experiences than we realize.
@ true, same goes for a concert. Even though are very costly these days too.
I’m a fan of playing roms through jailbreaking means and console ODEs. I only collect for PS4/PS5, and 4k blu-rays of games/movies I actually really like. So my collection is very specific now.
I must own physical media! I'm an 80s kid and I love retro games cassette tapes and CDs! How ever due to space my VHS collection had to come to an end.
Literally happened to me with Spider-Man on PS5. They pulled it from the store and even though I downloaded it, it doesn’t work anymore.
That was my lesson to only buy physical now.
You mentioned theme parks and paying for JUST the experience and memories and drew a comparison between that and digital; you also mentioned that the physicality of media could possibly be just a construct of confinement. I challenge you, sir, to think FURTHER outside the box and consider the INVERSE as I do: The EXPERIENCE of standing in line on the day/night a game launches, anxiously waiting to be one of the first ones in your area to own a copy, can be LIKENED to enjoying JUST the experience at an amusement park or baseball game. Full disclosure: when I think back to when I owned Assassin's Creed III and Black Flag my FIRST thought is how my wife pre-ordered each of them for me and I went straight from work to GameStop to wait for them to launch so I could own them. I know that sounds silly but THOSE are fond memories for me- like going to Aquatica with my family.
Physical media 100% if your game dies like my Nintendo did years ago I kept all the games now I’m back into it if all that stuff was saved on a hard drive and I threw it away. It all be gone.
Maybe, if the game is about to go away on the store, they have to send you a physical copy, before they do so. This means, they only have to send the amount that was ordered, Or have a store front that you can go and pick up you copy. Its a thought...
Congrats on the 100k play button bro. I see less than 100 away as of now.
Like you I end up riding the fence on this topic. I love my physical collection; but I play a lot of digital games too. I think I keep nostalgic items around as small tokens to bring back memories tied to the games. A lot of the games remind me of old friends, family and a variety of life experiences that somehow got tied to the physical games.
My collection helps me share experiences and beliefs with my kids. For me, the experiences are most important. Physical games and collectables serve as guide posts that outline my experience in gaming and life.
As my kids are getting old enough to enjoy games and are playing Minecraft and Roblox, I am concerned about the digital side and am introducing them to “retro games” and they are shocked they don’t need to buy upgrades or pay to unlock features.
Reality, even if you buy physical media, you often do not own your games, because:
- The box only has a digital code to download the game.
- There's a disc, but it only has a few files, the actual game must be downloaded and the disc is only a key.
- Sometimes, only parts of the game are available on disc, you can play without internet, but not the full game.
- You can play the game without internet with just a disc, but not the good version of the game, because at launch, the game is full of problems and you need to download a patch later or there's a patch since day 1.
- Sometimes, the patch is so big that you are almost downloading the whole game.
- You still need to connect to the internet to buy and download DLC.
- To play online, you need to download the most recent version.
- Many games are online-only, require a constant connection to the internet, even on single-player, and to make things worse, the servers often close, making your physical copy a paperweight.
Everything you mention here is just a sign of the times. Game studios these days release games before they're ready, that's why they need all the patches to fix it. Old PC games required a few patches at most, with most big changes coming in the form of expansions. It used to be the case the game would entirely be on the disc
I'm sick of large monolithic services like social media and gaming companies that make billions and spend it all on BS (like DEI initiatives, yoga rooms, etc.). What happened to the customer is king? Give us proper support!! Not some endless support forum hunt, or email back and forths with no resolution. You would think with billions, they can afford to provide basic support. If it's a smaller operation, then at least there's an excuse. No excuse if they're spending on silly internal initiatives rather than providing the support for where their income is coming from. That should be priority.
I used to have a large library of digital movies that I purchased on the Sony PlayStation store, I can no longer access any of them..
I sold 5 graded GPK's this week. It's blowing up again.
No the way they treat digital media is completely wrong… if it’s stated as a purchase they should never have the rights to pull them from the store (even if licenses to the rights expire) they should always be left up to redownload incase of hard drive fail or a replacement console. I would completely have no issues with digital if they were housed on a cloud correctly. Almost like a digital game room. I wouldn’t even mind paying a yearly fee for it.
Great video! I relate 100%
Thank you
Physical media will always be better to me. When Steam removed over 200 games from my account without warning, I knew it was just a licensed based deal. This was a year before they announced that you were just buying a license to play the games. I own most of the systems that Nintendo has made up to the original Wii console. I also have all the Playstation consoles up to the PS4, The sega consoles and even an original Odyssey 2 system with a couple of games. Knowing that some company can never take away what I bought is the best. I still get digital games and will be buying everything I can on GOG that I have on Steam. At least I can backup my game purchases on my massive external drive when bought on GOG.
Interesting video. I am both a physical and digital media gamer/collector. But, about your last point when looking at games as an "experience" rather than "ownership", physical media is hands-down the better experience. When I play retro games I am looking to recreate an experience, I felt when I was younger that emulation or a digital version cannot fully recreate. I would like to give you an example, Medieval on the PS1 can be played now both digitally and physically. But, nothing beats the experience of playing it on the original hardware, you will notice the little things like how they made Sir. Daniels's footsteps match with each vibration of the PS1 controller. And how vibrant the colors are when plugged into a CRT TV. However, If I play this on PC or emulation I won't be getting the vibrations of the controller or the vibrance of the colors because the game was created for that specific hardware. Now, when it comes to modern games, generally the experience of playing the game will be the same no matter what console, But, if we are still talking about "experience" then being able to look at the box art and game manual (if any), being able to unwrap/open the game and sliding the disc inside your system is still an "experience" That is authentic to physical media, that is lost when it comes to "digital". Also, when it comes to PC games, usually when installing the game from disc companies used to play thematic music and give you game tips in their launchers while installing the game, this experience is lost with digital media as now all you do is see a download bar for the games progress. No music playing or notes with game lore to get you excited to play the game.
Furthermore, Aside from games, when it comes to movie collecting as well, the physical media is still the better "experience" Those movies came with extras like bloopers, TV games, commercials, and more that will be missed when streaming the movie digitally. That does not even include the fact that the picture and sound quality are better when playing from a disc rather than streaming it online. It is also weird to compare the experience of playing games to theme parks, because they are completely opposite experiences. A video game is an indoor activity, and to spend $70 dollars per video game just to be able to play the game once and not own the game is absurd. Theme parks are outdoor activities and is something people don't do every single day, so yes it would make more sense to pay up fo r extras like ticket passes, because riding rollercoasters is something you wont really be able to do at home.
I remember digital so-called ownership was going to be cheaper to buy the game versus a physical copy the way it was pitched back then. Yet that never really happened you'd still pay the same price for the physical versus the digital just at their profit margin was much higher on the digital copy versus the physical. However with newer technology coming out just around the corner allowing you to store up to 100 terabytes of data onto a single laser disk could potentially bring back physical ownership to video games, movies, and more.
As a Gen xer myself who started with pong and space Invaders in the arcades have played so many computer games and console games and of acquired a very large collection throughout the years that I will still always prefer physical copies. I have been burned in the past by DRM protected music like back in the day music match and could never get all my purchases recovered plus Microsoft back in the day pulled the same stunt that Sony did with digital content for movies and music videos and such. I'd spent over $1,000 just on music videos at the time and then came back with a o ur license ran out so you don't have access to that at anymore. But I thought I owned it? But instead they gave me a 1500 Microsoft points as compensation which was ridiculous and I told him to keep it.
I still buy CDs and 4K blu-rays today over any digital purchases for fear of losing access in addition to the quality for digital media still sucks in comparison to physical copies.
However I do buy digital as well when it's the only option to me and a for really want it but there will always be that stigma do I really own it. It's the reason why when it comes to PC games I buy from GOG first then I consider steam and epic later depending on the title. On steam it's kind of funny how when I look at my list of games it says I own them with the word owned and they've yet to change that since steam itself said you don't own anything.
Still there is something about the nostalgia I guess from having those physical copies of games on cartridge disc floppy etc. And that if my internet's down I don't need internet to play any of these games. And I guess what makes it even more nostalgic cuz I'm an original owner of about 98% of my entire collection of games still in the boxes going back to Apple 2, 2GS, commodore Amiga, commodore 64, PC DOS and Windows games still in their boxes as well. Digital purchases will always be the last choice for me either until there is no other choice or until the day I die. I get the digital has its advantages and some are legit like bug fixes, DLC content that's not on your disk, and extra content behind the scenes yada yada. Which is why in some cases I own the physical copies in addition to a GOG Witcher series with all the DLCs Plus sales on Xbox like getting the Witcher 3 digital for convenience having everything for like seven or $8. Look at the music scene how it evolved into digital from 8-track, records, cassette, reel to reel, CDs, 5.1 audio music on DVD, so many ways that it's evolved but was always on physical which still gave you the best quality offering where digital music is still rather a mixed bag of quality over quantity and is so highly debated which format is better purchase Apple, Amazon, or any other format. I personally use flac as my choice when I rip my CDs and always said it the highest quality with no compression and keep three copies some in the cloud someone on external drive and some on a local NAS. And now the original disc sits in a closet still in its case like new because it only got used once. Granted I could go on and on and why physical ownership still will always outweigh digital because too many variables still point to more positives on physical over digital because in reality can we trust these big companies holding the keys to your digital content and will they last forever is the real question.
Loved this vid! Thought-provoking with a lot of good points made. Your physical/digital media collection does spiral me into sort of a jealous rage though...but I'm working through it 🫡
I appreciate the comment, and I appreciate someone made it past the first 3 minutes before commenting ❤
I like my video games apocalyptic-proof. Well, you know, after they turn the electricity back on. I just ordered the Sonic Frontiers game on Switch (physical copy), for my kid, but we're gonna have to get the DLC, for him to play as his favorite character, Tails. God damn it.
I think people who argue in favor of purely digital at least company controlled digital media don't care about gaming or movies in the same way who prefer physical media do.
People arguing in favor of licenses probably don't understand that it's a bad thing that this is the standard now.
Also patching shouldn't be necessary. Just let them take longer to make if the end product is worth it. As far as DLC goes release a physical standard edition and a physical definitive edition a few months later.
Imagine the amount of people who would buy both buy both because they can't wait, easy money!
I have always tried to purchase physical versions of games for the simple fact that they charge the same price for digital version and you don't own anything. Its cheaper for them to release digital but do not pass savings to their customer's. Corporate GREED is the way of our world :(
As far as recovering the account, have you asked Epic to trace it based on the credit card used for the purchases?
I have. I was denied
physical gave me that hype! that excitement! that suspense! seeing that cover art itself gave me chills!….
digital: meh 😅
I like owning hard copy's but even that with the new games u still have to download stuff I miss the old way
I refuse to own a new game system because of that. My game system now is the pow kiddy Y 6! I love that thing!
I’m genuinely curious about those gaming hard drives BUT I just have a small list for the ps2, 64, GameCube and Wii
it was the opposite for me.. I was def not on board with digital in the beginning I used to give my little brother in the 360 days so much crap for buying into digital or mts but since then I’ve gotten to where I just don’t care anymore we can’t take any of it with us when we go whether it’s digital or physical it’s about the experience 🤷
Simple fact the games ain't worth buying at $89.99 now a days, it hurts miss the old times actually have replay value
Idk I really hate how digital can just be taken away from you. But then again, when I have digital, I have more games I buy cause they go on sale more. But having the physical copy makes me more likely to play.
I disagree about digital being an experience. Digital is a cornerstone of game preservation, aka rom backups. The problem is game companies are using Software as a service (SaaS) as a way to force an experience on you. Fortnite is free and is run by epic without any way for players to backup their stuff, yet games like unreal tournament can be hosted on individual player’s servers. GoG is all digital and you own the games outright on there. If you buy something from a company and their own software fails to protect your assets, it’s their responsibility to rectify the problem. If they don’t they should be open to legal repercussions. Digital or not, owning a game or a license, your right to play should still be protected. It’s not like fortnight went away; Epic’s transfer system had a glitch that caused a player who put lots of money into their system to lose access. It’s their legal responsibility to recover your paid for content. Period. And this should go for all digital media. If the company doesn’t want to support it anymore, release the server code so the game can be hosted by players. Valve does this all the time.
Thank you, I feel like both physically and digital is the way. You should be able to copy your own physical media and back it up.
Physical eventually fails and disc drives are even becoming rare these days. We should make these things usable with modern hardware and software.
But for now we need the option to have both.
Accepting the service agreement makes them not liable for anything negative its kinda like digital stuck again.
Steam and epic have both come out and told their customers that they do not sell them a game. They sell them a license to the game and that the license can be recinded at anytime. You don't have that with physical media. That game is yours forever. Digital media in it's current form is a legit scam.
Protip: you don't own digital copies and makes you a pirate violating copyright with digital copies.
Digital is so nuts - why have lp,s come back ?
No man, you got screwed. Also an 80's kid. But in your situation I'll blame Nintendo. For the same reason my son has replaced his broken his switch and lost COUNTLESS hours in the pokemon games, which we owned physical and digital. They are archaic, and I bet somewhere between Nintendo and Epic is where his account is.
Very interesting conversation
you have a wii and you have physical media also digital media. which one do you have
Phisical all the way
No argument here. It is plain simple.. digital downloads mean you do NOT own the game. In fact you cannot resell it or play it after current gen or at least two gens. Physical media means you can play it after 20+ years if you keep it well. I really see no argument here. Virtua console already told us what will happen if everything goes digital.
Your theme park analogy doesn't work. Would you want to spend $80 on a limited time park pass or psy the same price for an indefinite access pass?
Who’s offering an indefinite pass?
im pretty much all retro so........EMULATION!!
good speaker!
you will own nothing, and you will be happy
Digital media sucks end of story goodbye
I bought a physical game for $49.99 in 1993 and sold it for $4500 in 2016. I like that experience