I have some expired Kodak 400CN I got a while back from a friend and was wondering if you have any experience with how this film shoots after expiration. I used to shoot this film years ago and because there weren't a lot of labs around here that processed b+w, the fact that these could be processed at the dpt store labs was a plus. Thanks in advance. Love these videos, been getting hyped on shooting some film since I have a Nikon N80 I found at a pawn shop for $20. I also have a Canon Rebel X, that was the first film camera I ever owned.and was stoked to re-buy as I had sold mine to upgrade almost 20 yrs ago. Keep up the great content.
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Bracketing. That is the fourth suggestion. If you are shooting on a tripod at least, shoot one shot for highlights, one for shadows. And boom, you got it.
Nice images. I stocked up on film over many years and I am still eating through film that now is expired, including C41 color film, E-6 color slide film and Kodak Tri-X. I'd be careful to treat ALL films with your over-exposure guidance. It actually only applies to C41 color film. Do not over-expose E-6 slide film. Latitude on slide film is low to begin with, so don't use it for high contrast scenes (fresh or expired) where you want shadows and highlights to have detail. With my expired slide film I expose for lit areas, using shadows for negative space in composition. I am shooting Agfa Ct Precisa 100 expired in 2014 and shooting it at box speed still. Results are great when correctly exposed. With the expired Tri-X, I do not over-expose by a stop, I reduce it to half a stop to get good, contrasty results. With my C41 expired film, I do exactly as outlined in this video, everything shown in the video applies. Good guidance!
The biggest factor is how was it stored. I have a stash of Portra VC and NC that has been frozen since new that expired in 2007 and I can shoot at box speed. Now the Porta 400 I have that was stored in a shoe box in the garage for five years is just hot garbage at any speed.
Those shots don’t even look expired lol. But thank you for the information this whole time I only knew about the overexpose a stop per decade rule, I never knew about overexposing for your shadows
Just got a free camera and getting 6/8 rolls expired for 20. Cheap and its about 10 years old the guy says but who knows. And storage not sure. My thing is just starting to get used to the camera its functions and such. Its a process. Thanks for the tips.
I would add that if you know that you're not going to use it all within the expiration date definitely toss it in the freezer. The pro's back in the day were not wrong in keeping their film in the freezers, most of that stuff is still giving great results to this day because of proper storage. A perfect example is pack film, so for you long haulers that buy in bulk, your best bet is in the freezer.
I have a few bricks of film in the deep freeze some people would kill for, most of them slide films not in production for decades. Last time I've used one of those was some 5 years ago, box speed, and it was as good as a fresh one...
Recently shotr 15+ year old Fuji Superia 400 in King Island, Tasmania's North West Coast. Very interestig grainy yet art-like results. I would exploit exposure compensation when shooting this film again especially in dull-ish conditions
Let’s say you took an exposure when the film was fresh, but didn’t develop until after it was expired. Does that affect the result? And should you do anything different during development?
So when you overexpose the expired film by one stop, do you push the film by one stop during development or do you just develop as normal? Sorry if this is a dumb question, just wanted to be sure
Another fascinating video :) any chance of doing one on expired mono? I have a couple of bulk rolls of expired film, Orwo NP27 from 1996 and Jessops Pan 400s (which you have probably never heard of, no one else has either) xp2 2004. I am trying to find the magic formula but so far, no go. It is good fun trying though. Keep making the excellent videos Peter
Yoo! I’m there right now (at the Grand Canyon) and just shot my first roll of Ektachrome . Curious how it’ll turn out. Also, my very first ever rolls of film that I started with were some expired Kodak. I followed that basic rule of overexposure per 10 years and had no idea about exposing for shadows, but they ended up turning out ok.
blown away man. thanks for sharing, I just picked up an old film camera that came with 3 expired rolls. Was counting on it looking like trash but im excited to give this a try... gang gang!
Um...Can you use your expired film shooting steps with transparency film as well? I would think that overexposure would be a problem with slide film. 😀
hi . you are very lucky to enjoy film film photography. unfortunately this is not my case here in Morocco. i own a lot of cameras and still have 35mm and 120 film in my fridge. i shoot from time to time yet the big problem is there is no place to develop film in Morocco and i mean no single place in the whole country. all labs got rid of developping machines the day digital arrived. i just shoot and wait for a day to develop. even chemicals are no longer available for developing at home. that's a pity. can you tell me about my exposed films still not developed will they stand the test of time if they sit in a box undevoloped or will they lose some of quality once developed.? thanks mate . enjoy film. peace
My man’s just gonna pass by the Ektar 100 when shooting the Grand Canyon??? Absolute mad lad
I have some expired Kodak 400CN I got a while back from a friend and was wondering if you have any experience with how this film shoots after expiration. I used to shoot this film years ago and because there weren't a lot of labs around here that processed b+w, the fact that these could be processed at the dpt store labs was a plus. Thanks in advance. Love these videos, been getting hyped on shooting some film since I have a Nikon N80 I found at a pawn shop for $20. I also have a Canon Rebel X, that was the first film camera I ever owned.and was stoked to re-buy as I had sold mine to upgrade almost 20 yrs ago. Keep up the great content.
Bracketing.
That is the fourth suggestion.
If you are shooting on a tripod at least, shoot one shot for highlights, one for shadows. And boom, you got it.
Preach!
Nice images.
I stocked up on film over many years and I am still eating through film that now is expired, including C41 color film, E-6 color slide film and Kodak Tri-X.
I'd be careful to treat ALL films with your over-exposure guidance. It actually only applies to C41 color film. Do not over-expose E-6 slide film. Latitude on slide film is low to begin with, so don't use it for high contrast scenes (fresh or expired) where you want shadows and highlights to have detail. With my expired slide film I expose for lit areas, using shadows for negative space in composition. I am shooting Agfa Ct Precisa 100 expired in 2014 and shooting it at box speed still. Results are great when correctly exposed.
With the expired Tri-X, I do not over-expose by a stop, I reduce it to half a stop to get good, contrasty results.
With my C41 expired film, I do exactly as outlined in this video, everything shown in the video applies. Good guidance!
1. Overexpose
2. Overexpose some more
3. Keep it in the fridge
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The biggest factor is how was it stored. I have a stash of Portra VC and NC that has been frozen since new that expired in 2007 and I can shoot at box speed. Now the Porta 400 I have that was stored in a shoe box in the garage for five years is just hot garbage at any speed.
Those shots don’t even look expired lol. But thank you for the information this whole time I only knew about the overexpose a stop per decade rule, I never knew about overexposing for your shadows
love that shot at 4:38 ~
my favorite expired film I came across in the past was konica centuria 100
Just got a free camera and getting 6/8 rolls expired for 20. Cheap and its about 10 years old the guy says but who knows. And storage not sure. My thing is just starting to get used to the camera its functions and such. Its a process. Thanks for the tips.
I would add that if you know that you're not going to use it all within the expiration date definitely toss it in the freezer. The pro's back in the day were not wrong in keeping their film in the freezers, most of that stuff is still giving great results to this day because of proper storage. A perfect example is pack film, so for you long haulers that buy in bulk, your best bet is in the freezer.
I have a few bricks of film in the deep freeze some people would kill for, most of them slide films not in production for decades. Last time I've used one of those was some 5 years ago, box speed, and it was as good as a fresh one...
Recently shotr 15+ year old Fuji Superia 400 in King Island, Tasmania's North West Coast. Very interestig grainy yet art-like results. I would exploit exposure compensation when shooting this film again especially in dull-ish conditions
Will these tips work well for black and white film?
Yes, plus B&W clearly doesn't have color shift, so the effects age has on it won't be as noticeable.
Let’s say you took an exposure when the film was fresh, but didn’t develop until after it was expired. Does that affect the result? And should you do anything different during development?
I have a mini fridge that has 1 shelf stuffed with film. And a stash of other film including Kodachrome 64 in the freezer…
So when you overexpose the expired film by one stop, do you push the film by one stop during development or do you just develop as normal? Sorry if this is a dumb question, just wanted to be sure
He said develope as normal since you already over exposed it. So if its a 400 then you tell them its a 400
I have an 20 yr old roll of iso 400 film that i shot at box speed. Should i push or pull it in development?
man expired film is as expensive as fresh film
Another fascinating video :) any chance of doing one on expired mono? I have a couple of bulk rolls of expired film, Orwo NP27 from 1996 and Jessops Pan 400s (which you have probably never heard of, no one else has either) xp2 2004. I am trying to find the magic formula but so far, no go. It is good fun trying though. Keep making the excellent videos
Peter
THE best description on how to shoot expired film! Thanks man! 🤙
Yoo! I’m there right now (at the Grand Canyon) and just shot my first roll of Ektachrome . Curious how it’ll turn out. Also, my very first ever rolls of film that I started with were some expired Kodak. I followed that basic rule of overexposure per 10 years and had no idea about exposing for shadows, but they ended up turning out ok.
blown away man. thanks for sharing, I just picked up an old film camera that came with 3 expired rolls. Was counting on it looking like trash but im excited to give this a try... gang gang!
Incredible shot, keep up the good work man
Those shots are crispy! 🙌🏾
Um...Can you use your expired film shooting steps with transparency film as well? I would think that overexposure would be a problem with slide film. 😀
Yeah no I wouldn’t touch any expired slide film
hi . you are very lucky to enjoy film film photography. unfortunately this is not my case here in Morocco. i own a lot of cameras and still have 35mm and 120 film in my fridge. i shoot from time to time yet the big problem is there is no place to develop film in Morocco and i mean no single place in the whole country. all labs got rid of developping machines the day digital arrived. i just shoot and wait for a day to develop. even chemicals are no longer available for developing at home. that's a pity. can you tell me about my exposed films still not developed will they stand the test of time if they sit in a box undevoloped or will they lose some of quality once developed.? thanks mate . enjoy film. peace
i've heard caffenol can be used to develop at home
Same with B/W film?
Kinda. But you have more latitude when developing B&W. You can push process, or use a different developer.