Westminster Abbey = Part 6 = Tudor/ Stuart/ Plantagenet Tombs = Elizabeth I & Mary Queen of Scots +
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Westminster Abbey = The Lady Chapel, side chapels. Recorded on Wednesday 15th March 2023.
Now, if you think our modern day families are bad = meet this lot ⬇️
Left side small chapel, within The Lady Chapel
(1) The Tomb of Elizabeth I & Mary I "Tudor Sisters, daughters to King HenryVIII, & bitter enemies in life. When Elizabeth died on the 24th March 1603 = England lost its last ruling Tudor!! & Then came a new King & Dynasty "King James VI of Scotland & I of England." The first things he did, were to have his predecessor Queen Elizabeth I's last resting "marked with a fine monument" = Elizabeth who was much loved by her people "got a fine marble effigy" = whereas Mary I = who was not so loved "got merely a black marble nameplate." King James, hoped that Burying the two sisters together "that they may settle their differences, in the afterlife." What we're not generally told /advertised of, is that when the vault which already contained the coffin of Queen Mary I, was opened to receive the coffin of her half sister Queen Elizabeth I "it was discovered to be a very small vault = so rather than resting side by side, Elizabeth's coffin was placed on top of her sister Mary's.
(2) The fine monument, which contains the bones of The two Princes in The Tower = Killed by either "their uncle King Richard III = or My Lady the Kings Mother (Margaret Beaufort = mother to King Henry VII" ⬅️ depending upon what theory you believe, on that one!! The bones were discovered in the reign of King Charles II, under stone stairs in a wooden chest, in the Tower of London. Charles II had them buried with honour "as the two Princes in The Tower = the monument was opened in the 1930s & did indeed contain the bones of two boys, of around the same ages!! Weather it's actually those boys in that monument, is still an ongoing question, to this day 🤔
Left side small chapel, within The Lady Chapel
(3) The Tomb of Mary Queen of Scots "Elizabeth I's greatest adversary = beheaded at fotheringhay castle in 1587. When her son James "who'd abandoned his mother in favour of Elizabeth I & the English throne" Actually came to that throne = one of the first wheels he set in motion "was to have his mother's body brought from its original burial location, in Peterborough Cathedral & have her brought to Westminster Abbey" which was done in 1612.
(4) The Tomb of Margaret Douglas, Countess of Lennox "James I's Grandmother." But, more interestingly on that tomb = is mentioned King James I's Father Henry Lord Darnley, cousin to Elizabeth I & short lived King of Scotland "murdered on The orders of Mary Queen of Scots & carried out by her lover The Earl of Bothwell." ⬅️ So you have a beheaded Queen = buried next to the Mother-in-law who blamed & hated her, for her sons murder = with that same murdered son /husband "shown & mentioned on the memorial." How bloody awkward must that little tableau, have been for King James I = who BTW "never trusted or liked women.
(4) The Foundress of the whole damn shebang = The tomb of Margaret Beaufort "the self styled = My Lady The Kings Mother" = Grandmother - Great Grandmother & Great Great Grandmother, to our Tudor & Stuart dynasties. My Lady the Kings Mother = was married at the age of 12 to Edmund Tudor "a fully grown man of about 26 years" & the resulting pregnancy & birth of the future King Henry VII, at the age of just 13 "is believed to have damaged Margaret internally = as she never bore another child or got pregnant again." Edmund died of the plague & left Margaret "a widow & mother, at age 13 /14." Her one goal in life = was to get her boy Henry, onto the throne!! Which happened with the defeat of King Richard III at the Battle of Bosworth Field on 22nd August 1485.
And, that ends just a small part of "The fcuked up family from hell." 🤔
I could have spent days inside Westminster Abbey. It's a work of art. I was breathless with excitement. I love graveyards, cemeteries, and architecture. So this amazing place was IT for me.
I'm totally with you on that, Dale!! It really is a breath-taking & fascinating place, isn't it 👌 Something different to spot on every visit 😊✌️
The narrator is wrong on a few of his comments. Mary Queen of Scots was not responsible for Darnleys murder but got the blame with no proof whatsoever just falsified letters not written by Queen Mary in several handwriting not Queen Mary's. Also Darnley is not buried beside Queen Mary in Westminster Abbey he was buried in Holyrood Abbey in Edinburgh.
Interesting that Elizabeth I, Mary I, and Mary, Queen of Scots are buried close together, since in life none of the three women liked each other.
@JimMac23 Hi Jim. That was the doing of King James VI of Scotland & I of England! Mary was originally the sole occupant, of the vault "she now shares with her Sister Mary." When Elizabeth died, she was originally laid to rest with her grandparents Henry VII & Elizabeth of York, on their vault." When James became king, "he'd earmarked Elizabeth's place for himself = & had her moved into her Sister's vault" adding indult to injury, by placing Elizabeth's coffin on top of Mary's. He then had his executed mother moved from Peterborough Cathedral to Westminster in 1606. Having fine tombs built for the much loved & mourned Elizabeth "with but the scarcest mention of Mary I." & had an "ever so slightly larger one, built for his own mother, Mary Queen of Scots." I'll do a piece on Elizabeth I, being moved, when I carry on with my "restless royal Corpses series." ✌️
Jestem ciekawy co przetrwało do naszych czasów w grobie Marii i Elżbiety.
Thank you so much for sharing this amazing video. I always wanted to see this. ❤
Hi My Lady. You're more than welcome "that's lovely to hear tbh, so am glad you enjoyed the tour." Certainly an amazing location 👌✌️
I love English history. And this is a place I will never ever get to see. I am 53 in Tasmania, Australia, insanely terrified of planes. I can't even watch them take off without getting jelly legs.
@megs4193 Bless ya Megs, phobias can be quite debilitating, can't they. Would a cruis, be possible at all? Bloody expensive thst though. Hope you enjoyed seeing it, in a virtual sense.
@@londonluke6487 a cruise would be amazing, but like you said, sooo expensive. Right now I'll live vicariously through all of you guys in England. If i ever actually got there, no.1 would be Beatrix potters cottage. And i know they're far from each other. But no.2 would be Avebury, not the stones. The village. I really don't know why, i cried the first time i seen, really cried. I thought it was just a weird day. That was a few years ago. Everytime I've watched videos about it over the years, I've cried every time. It's the most bizarre feeling. I don't cry at RUclips videos, i watch happy things with nice people. 🤷♀️ it's a mystery. Tomorrow I will check out more, it's 2am so I'm of to sleep. Thank you for taking time to reply 👋😊.
@megs4193 Hi Megs. Yeah, a cruise sounds nice = But, the prices are shocking! The beauty of RUclips & thr interet 👌 I enjoy a lot of the Egyptian & ancient Egyptian stuff, on RUclips. Beatrix Potters cottage, is said to be a lovely experience, to visit. Funny you saying that = I read an article, a while back "on past lives & spirit of plsce etc" & that broached on the subject, of high emotions when sometimes seeing/visiting a place. Maybe you have an ancestral or spiritual connection, to Avebury. No problem at all, Megs. Take care & have a great day 😊✌️
What brought me here, though , is I was hoping there would be information on Aveline de forz. She was married at 10 years old and passed away at Stockwell Manor at 14. Her mother was Isabella De Fortibus/Forz. I can find pretty much 0 about any of them, except on google. Ps, thank you for the video. It's amazing to see these things 😊❤❤❤.
@megs4193 Ah rite, now she'll be one for me to read up on = thsnks Megs 🙂. Life was hard back then, wasn't it = married at 10 😮. No problem at all, glad you enjoyed + Westminster Abbey, is a truly breath-taking location 💙✌️
@@londonluke6487 it is fascinating, so much bigger than i thought. So thank you. And thank you for seeing my message. I hope you can find information on them. I gave up in the end. Anything i found was short and the same wording. You would have better resources i hope. Fingers crossed 😃🇦🇺🐨🇦🇺🤞.
@megs4193 Hey Megs. Its enormous tbh = took several revisits, to cover it all. A place where "you can literally feel the history." No problem at all = I always make sure, every comment gets a reply "it may take me a time, though." I'll have a root around, & see what I can find 🤞 frustrating, when the info is "sparce or nonexistent, isn't it." I've had that happen, in tracing my own family history "hitting a brick wall, in information terms" very frustrating.
Margaret Beaufort was not married to Jasper Tudor, he was her husband, Edmund Tudor’s brother. He fled to France with 4 year old Henry VII and was with him at the Battle of Bosworth for his place as king.
Hi Kimberly. Good spot = my mistake "so much info rattling around in my brain, I get a little muddled at times. A fascinating period in history! Thanks for the info 👍✌️
Dankeschön für das Video ❤
@@ameliapyka3345 Sie sind herzlich willkommen! Danke fürs Zuschauen. Freut mich, dass es dir gefallen hat 💙🙂
It’s an interesting fact that more British Catholics were executed for their faith in the reign of Queen Elizabeth I than the entire existence of the Spanish Inquisition. Queen Mary’s meagre list was outstripped by Queen Elizabeth I by an enormous margin. The fact that we automatically assume otherwise is down to one thing: a massive and hugely successful propaganda exercise mounted from the HQ of the Protestant Church at the time; Geneva. As an Englishman who had always been taught otherwise I was very surprised to learn that these are documented historical facts.
Hi Albert. Sorry for my late reply = I've been really busy recently. My goodness "you've hit the nail on the head" = reading up on the numbers "I was shocked tbh." Thanks for this comment, Albert!! I believe, we should never stop learning in life, & "I've certainly learned something here." Yes, it does seem to have been hugely successful! Thanks again for this comment ✌️
As I began to watch this video and often thought how nice to one day visit England; I immediately opted to ‘take a pass’ on spending any of my time looking at this tomb. She made being an Irish Catholic a living hell. I hope her and her father made amends ~ wherever they are.
@@kevinburke9940 as an English Catholic loyal to my Sovereign I couldn’t disagree with you more. The Church of Rome’s Popes (my Church, remember) recognises the British Monarch as the lawful Sovereign of the United Kingdom so who am I to disagree with the Pope? The late Queen did more for Anglo-Irish relations than any monarch before her. She even went so far to shake the hand of the murderers of her close relative Lord Louis Mountbatten, which is truly Christian.
You are xo right Lizzie 1 was a tyrant
Where can one get a list of everyone who is buried inside
of the Abbey?
Hi Nina. I can't find a complete list, of all buried within the Abbey = This link does give a lot of details & names though ✌️⬇️
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burials_and_memorials_in_Westminster_Abbey
How long after the Royal deaths were these effigies made?
Hi Nina. Initially Queen Elizabeth I "was buried in the vault with her grandparents, in the King Henry VII Lady Chapel." With no marker for her. In 1606 "3 years after her death" King James her successor, had her moved + this memorial made. His mother, Mary Queen of Scots executed in 1587 & originally buried in Peterborough Cathedral." King James, had her exhumed & moved to Westminster in 1612, & that's when her monument was made. So Elizabeth's 3 years after her death. & Mary's 25 years after her death ✌️
They didn’t allow us to videotape inside the abbey in 2018. Is it allowed now?
Only if you don't get caught 😉. They do allow photography though. Some dint seem to bother = whereas other so ✌️
Mary was not Queen of England. But was a royal blood cousin and queen of Scotland.. Therefore recieved a burial in the royal tomb. But would not have been of standard an English Ruler received. Except her son became King of England and would have given her more prestige as his mother.
Margaret Countess of Lennox. Sister to Henry VIII. Was Scotish Queen Consort, mother of 1 Scotish King, Grandmother of Queen Mary, and Great Grandson of Scotish/ English King James. Her Son from second marriage resulted in descendent Lord Darnley who married her Granddaughter Queen Mary (so pretty much cousins) and produced King James.
@lisanixon9284 Hi Lisa. Thanks for this info "very interesting & much appreciated." They Royal lines, are quite complex = But, really interesting! Yes, King James had his mother moved, & gave her a slightly larger tomb, than Queen Elizabeth I & Queen Mary I." Thanks again for the info 😊✌️
You are wrong Queen Mary I of Scotland (MQOS) was indeed buried as a Queen by the very state that illegally murdered her. Queen Mary was buried with the full pomp of a state funeral attended by the English nobility with Elizabeth personally represented by her friend the Countess of Bedford. Whilist Queen Mary did not actually rule in England she was the legitimate and rightful Queen of England as well of Scotland. Elizabeth Tudor was illegitimate. The officers of State at end of the state funeral broke their staffs of office which happens only to monarchs. It's very curious to note the English government and Elizabeth acordeded he full dignity and Majesty of a Queen who they accused of treason and then murdered her on trumped up fabricated evidence. I am not aware of any other person so condemned given a State funeral by that estate. It is without doubt an admission and acknowledgement of guilt they had committed regicide against their legitimate and rightful Queen. When Queen Mary's son King James VI of Scotland inherited his rightful claim to the English crown through his Mother in 1603 .sent a velvet Pall to hang over his mother's tomb in Peterborough cathedral . In 1612 King James had his mother's body brought to Westminster Abbey and placed in the magnificent tomb he ensured his mother's rightful and legitimate claim to the English crown was acknowledged from which his right came. It is Queen Mary I of Scotland ,the legitimate and rightful Queen of England bloodline that sits on the British Throne today,King Charles III IS 14TH IN direct descent from Queen Mary of Scotland as do most of the monarchs in Europe. Queen Mary shares her tomb with many of her Stuart descendants , eg her granddaughter Elizabeth the Winter Queen, grandsons Henry Prince of Scotland , England and Wales,her Gr Grandson' Princess Rupert of tbe Rhine and her cousin Arabella Stuart with the dead Children of her GGr Granddaughter Queen Anne unlike Elizabeth who shares a tomb with her half sister Queen Mary I. Also just up from Queen Mary's tomb which is he most elaborate and imposing tomb in Westminster Abbey at the Winter is the Stuart Vault that contains the remains of more of Queen Mary's Stuart descendants,her Gr Grandson' Charles II,Gr Grandson' William II of Scotland III of England,her Granddaughters Queen Mary II of Scotland and England, Queen Anne of Scotland and England and the very first monarch of Great Britain. Queen Mary had a terrible time but despite it all she has ultimately triumphed .those who falsely condemned her including Elizabeth Tudor will answer on the day of judgement for he murder of their legitimate and rightful Queen. .Rest in peace Queen Mary ❤❤
@@lisanixon9284 You have got mixed up here Margaret Douglas was Henry VIII s neice not sister who was daughter of Queen Margaret Tudor and sister to Henry VIII. Margaret Douglas was Aunt to Mary Queen of Scots not grandmother,nor was she mother to a Scottish King,her son Henry Stuart,Lord Darnley ,he was merely King consort by his wife's wish not v parliament. Both Queen Mary and Henry Lord Darnley grandmother was Queen Margaret Tudor wife of King James IV of Scotland Queen Mary's claim was superior to Darnley s coming from first marriage , Darnley descended from 2nd marriage of Queen Margaret Tudor, making Queen Mary an Darnley first cousins on maternal side but I think 3rd cousin's on the Paternal side as Darnley was descended through his father Mathew Stuart from James III of Scotland. All nicely connected but unfortunately Darnley was not worthy of his Stewart blood but definitely of his Tudor bloodline
@@stevenleppard1072 Elizabeth I was not illegitimate. Her father Henry VIII married her mother Anne Boleyn before Elizabeth was born. And it was proven that Mary, Queen of Scots was plotting to murder and overthrow Elizabeth I.
There is no the tomb for mary 1 ?
Hi there. No, she doesn't have her own tomb = the only thing that let's you know that, she's buried in this one "is a small black marble tablet." Her sister Elizabeth I "gained all the lavishness & attention." Mostly because of Mary I's unpopularity ✌️
They killed one another only too end up in the same Abbey!
@@Andrew-el8xi????
@@Andrew-el8xi Mary I died of cancer. And Elizabeth I died of old age. Read a history book sometime. You might enjoy it.
So They all didn't be buried underground?
Hi there. Sorry for the late reply = I've had a lot going on recently. No, not all of them are buried underground. Some are in box tombs "like King Edward I & some of the medieval monarchs." From the Tudor period onwards "people were laid to rest, in Vaults underground." 👍✌️
@@londonluke6487 thank you for your information
@@unionofnetworktelevisionun3273 No problem at all 👍✌️
Love your channel so much Luke, I love looking at old tombs! 😊
Hi there. Really sorry for the late reply = I've had a hell of a lot going on recently tbh! Ah, bless you & thanks for the lovely comment 😊 Glad you're enjoying the channel & content! Old tombs are bloody interesting, aren't they "you can glean a lot of social history, from their inscriptions." 👍✌️
The tomb is marked Queen Elizabeth, presumably she only became Queen Elizabeth 1 in 1952 when Elizabeth 2 decided to reign using this name as her name regnant
@rogerfielding1117 Hi Roger. Her given name was Elizabeth = & she decided to reign as Elizabeth "with the added II." ✌️