I visited Sunday August 10, 2024. Attended service. Amazing History, amazing service. Important for christian history and history of the commonwealth. God bless Briton.
I am Catholic and i must say that im fascinated with the Anglican traditions and Huge Gotic Churches its so so beautiful and enjoyable God Bless you All Blessings from Mexico
The Gothic current church is from Henry 3rd reign (died 1272). The Abbey before that was the Norman Romanesque church of King Edward (later beatified as St Edward the Confessor) finished in the year of the Norman conquest 1066.
I had the honor of singing in a visiting resident choir in 1993 and again in 1995, also did St. Paul's in '95 and 2000 and Norwich Cathedral in '97. we also sang at the VJ Day celebration in York Minister in '95 and sang in Saint Martin in the Field in 2000, Absolutely unbelievable
I was in the Abbey in the 90's several times, as a tourist-worshipper. One evensong they let us sit in the choir stalls, behind the choir. That was a real sacred thrill. I sang in choirs for 30 years, so it was my natural place that I should be in the choir.
Remember the pressure and angst associated with children choristers ...all of them deserve to succeed with their futures...it must be said that this training at such an early age should equip them for challenges and leadership as adults...well done to them and to the emotionally intelligent choir masters for imbuing in them inestimable benefit ...keep up the good work ALL ROUND
A well produced and interesting documentary on this fabulous historic institution. I am Cheshire born and raised, and visited the Abbey at around fourteen years of age. I have lived most of my adult life in New Zealand, and we have nothing, NOTHING that even comes close to this - utterly wonderful - thank you.
From Canada: if you love history, architecture, and music, you must go back to Europe and UK and Ireland for these treasured buildings and traditions. I feel at home there because my origins are from Dorset and Ireland and Scotland. Music is my profession, and history is an obsession. What a wonderful video. Thank you so much.
I forget which Cathedral but years ago one of the boys choirs was visiting Canada and about 5 boys were billeted in my house...they were all boy too, very excited, they were mesmerized by our full basement
IMPORTANT NOTE: This channel is about music and choirs, not about religion or institutions. Genuine differences of opinion are tolerated, when expressed in a civilised manner, but abuse, insults and slander are not. People attempting to leave comments of that nature will find their comments suppressed, both now and in the future, and may, in extreme cases, be reported to RUclips. Please respect each other and what this channel is about.
For Architect, Ptolemy Dean regarding the maintenance of the abbey. It's like what the Bible says in Matthew 9:16-17 No one puts a piece of unshrunk cloth on an old garment; for [c]the patch pulls away from the garment, and the tear is made worse. 17 Nor do they put new wine into old wineskins, or else the wineskins [d]break, the wine is spilled, and the wineskins are ruined. But they put new wine into new wineskins, and both are preserved.”
Standing on the bones. It was beautiful. I'm an honorary (American) docent of the Pyx Chamber. 🤗 Only given the shadow position due to my ebullience about every corner of the wondrous buildings.
Something out of our lost history is what these huge churches are, these were not built at the times told by the people in those times, completely impossible. These buildings were not religious buildings at the time they were built, there were no religions back then, not like today, these buildings that housed healing properties and capable of what is now known as free energy. People are so brain washed when they walk into the Abby that was built for far larger humans can't understand why they look so tiny in this giants building.!
@Volkfire The size and style of this Abbey church simply followed the gothic structures of the time. Henry III rebuilt the Abbey very much in the style of Amiens Cathedral in Northern France, and employed French architects to build it. It was a deliberate attempt to build an impressive coronation venue. Westminster Abbey still remains to this day in the personal possession of the Sovereign.
ds1868, the Abbey is the property of the Anglican Church. As a “royal peculiar,” its dean reports directly to the Sovereign rather than the Archbishop of Canterbury, and it is the parish church of the Sovereign, but not his or her personal property.
I find these religious documentaries very interesting. Ptolemy Dean appeared in the architectural programmes which decided which listed buildings in the different regions would be repaired. His fellow architect was Marianne Suhr. Dean looks very distinguished in clerical attire!
@@ArchiveofRecordedChurchMusic Don't know if you know about the Crypt of Ripon Cathedral being the longest surviving in the country? :) Also take your time don't worry about it would be great to see that if it's not been uploaded already, take care and nice work! (infact no scratch that great work!)
I always wondered if they ran into problems getting all the boys there to perform. Thinking of how life can be busy, things can happen so it makes sense for them to live there! 😂 What an experience for them!
Westminster is a beautiful building and has some wonderful traditions, but the formality is a bit overwhelming to most people. I was raised that the church was sacred and to be maintained by the members NOT THE GUESTS.
So, the services are still conducted in a language that most of the people don’t know, just like the Catholic Church used to be before Henry the 8th broke away. The actions in the Abby reminds me of many Catholic services I have attended in my lifetime.
Anglican..half and half. Not radical like late King Edward Vl (1547-1553)nor late Queen Mary l (1553-1558) The middle ground.. Late Queen Elizabeth 1- smart (1558-1603) Sevices spoken in English and the singing can be sung in Latin....(shugs) either way the middle ground.
the services are generally conducted in English (or, more correctly, in the vernacular); although at certain collegiate churches associated with the universities, where the scholars know Latin, they may be conducted in Latin. In any event, Latin church music remains a large part of Anglican liturgical life.
gail handschuh, no, services are almost entirely in English and for centuries Latin has been frowned on until recently. If you actually watch the entire three parts of the documentary this is, in fact, mentioned in the second part of the series.
The answer is yes. Having said that it rarely "feels" the same when Catholic music is sung in Protestant places although the Abbey was of course a Benedictine foundation. At least it survived the catastrophe of the reformation
The director of the choir at the Abbey when filmed in 2012 and still there Mr. O'Donnell shown with the choir boys is Roman Catholic. This Abbey choir sang at St. Peter's in Rome at the express wish of Pope (now emeritus) Benedict XVI at an important mass. Allegri's Miserere is sung in concert halls, in college chapels open to students of many Christian faiths and in high church places such as Anglican and probably Lutheran as well. Now obviously low church Protestants would not sing it (Pentecostals and Baptists and Evangelicals) because it is in Latin, and associated with Rome. So, it depends on the church and the denomination.
@@taiscealai Please explain why Catholic music 'feels' different sung in Protest places. I am an atheist but love the historical implications of religion and politics.
Church music in the 1700s was meant to be sung by male choirs; and there is absolutely nothing that will replace boy's voices at a certain stage of their prime lung development (Ages 11-13); and female voices singing the part cannot seem to impart that unique tonal quality.
55.00 Gluten free wafers. And Alcohol free wine? I haven't yet heard on anyone having an anaphylactic fit at communion, but one has to take precautions. After all, church going is a high risk activity! Have mercy upon us!
Meditation is a great way for choristers to achieve voice control and prayer at the same time. May be the choristers should be taught the Jesus Prayer or the Mystery of the Cross meditations to help their singing and prayer life
Very nice, just one slight imprecision... St. Peteris is t the founder of the Church but it's first pope and one of the apostles of Jesus, who's the actual founder of the Church ...
Yeah. To all intents and purposes it is, and it’s difficult to differentiate between the two traditions in an aesthetic sense. It was largely a political reformation though obviously papal authority or infallibility and transubstantiation was the cut off point . It definitely wasn’t in keeping with the kind of sola scriptura reformation that happened across the rest of Northern Europe.
@@Aidan9-z9c Westminster Abbey is High Church Anglican rather than Anglo-Catholic (Roman Catholic Lite). This style of Churchmanship gave birth to the High Church Evangelical Anglicans or Methodists. Though it uses sung liturgies and similar to Roman Catholic worship style it is also very much Calvinist with a dash of Lutheranism in doctrine.
The Abbey is bound by precisely worded statutes that encompass the composition of its choir, the manner of its upkeep and the frequency of its contribution to sung offices. The addition of girls would require the dilution or alteration of those statutes. It should be noted especially that the Abbey Choir School is not equipped with facilities to board and lodge girls alongside boys; indeed, experience in other choral foundations suggests that the optimum age of a girl chorister for the Abbey would be higher than that of the optimum (and biologically necessary) optimum age of the boys, thus it would be necessary to expand the school to accommodate older girls alongside younger boys, though there is clearly finite space in the Abbey Precincts that would preclude this. The Abbey does welcome visiting choirs to sing during times when its own choir is on leave, and many of those include girls and women. The Abbey can also call upon professional women singers to make up a choir for special occasions or emergencies, so it cannot be said that the Abbey opposes female choristers or would exclude them absolutely.
Bit like saying the British Museum would be beautiful if not for all the historical artefacts, or the National Gallery would be wonderful if it wasn’t for all the paintings.🙄
![Felix "Unfair" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Oswujxm2Ag0/mqdefault.jpg)
How lovely this must be to see and hear in person.
As a Roman Catholic I thoroughly enjoyed this ! Thank You !
I too am Catholic - however I would love to attend a service in this wonderful House of God.
Much respect to the British people for maintaining their heritage so very ably. May they do so for many centuries yet to come.
I visited Sunday August 10, 2024. Attended service. Amazing History, amazing service. Important for christian history and history of the commonwealth. God bless Briton.
I am Catholic and i must say that im fascinated with the Anglican traditions and Huge Gotic Churches its so so beautiful and enjoyable God Bless you All
Blessings from Mexico
How glorious to experience this wonderful old world establishment. Absolutely fabulous to see some things do last forever. Bravo, England.
What a sight and the beauty it brings. The minds that built it....extraordinary.
Unbelievable its been there for over 900 years
The Gothic current church is from Henry 3rd reign (died 1272). The Abbey before that was the Norman Romanesque church of King Edward (later beatified as St Edward the Confessor) finished in the year of the Norman conquest 1066.
Thank you so much for sharing this glimpse into the great Abbey and precious choir. I cannot describe exactly what it means to me....❤
Watching this video I became so overwhelmed & moved to be an Anglican. Thank you for this beautiful video
I had the honor of singing in a visiting resident choir in 1993 and again in 1995, also did St. Paul's in '95 and 2000 and Norwich Cathedral in '97. we also sang at the VJ Day celebration in York Minister in '95 and sang in Saint Martin in the Field in 2000, Absolutely unbelievable
and this is us singing in St. Paul's in 1995
ruclips.net/video/vfpUBW0mP28/видео.html
I was in the Abbey in the 90's several times, as a tourist-worshipper. One evensong they let us sit in the choir stalls, behind the choir. That was a real sacred thrill. I sang in choirs for 30 years, so it was my natural place that I should be in the choir.
Thank you all for your majestic singing for all Christian services. Throughout the year Ann Deakin Warwick UK. 2021
Remember the pressure and angst associated with children choristers ...all of them deserve to succeed with their futures...it must be said that this training at such an early age should equip them for challenges and leadership as adults...well done to them and to the emotionally intelligent choir masters for imbuing in them inestimable benefit ...keep up the good work ALL ROUND
Westminster Abbey: where tradition and faith come together in song! Most beautiful!
How amazing and wonderful. The history, good and bad (as history is apt to be) that lives within those beautiful walls....
What a wonderful programme, I enjoyed this so much.
I love the beautiful architecture and history of that beautiful place... I hope to visit there one day. 💕 God Save The Queen Long May She Reign. 🇬🇧
Very enjoyable. I think I am immediately going to watch part two. Can't resist.
A well produced and interesting documentary on this fabulous historic institution. I am Cheshire born and raised, and visited the Abbey at around fourteen years of age. I have lived most of my adult life in New Zealand, and we have nothing, NOTHING that even comes close to this - utterly wonderful - thank you.
From Canada: if you love history, architecture, and music, you must go back to Europe and UK and Ireland for these treasured buildings and traditions. I feel at home there because my origins are from Dorset and Ireland and Scotland. Music is my profession, and history is an obsession. What a wonderful video. Thank you so much.
I mean if you did the colonists destroyed it thoroughly. 60000 years of oral tradition destroyed. That's like the library of alexandria burned twice.
Lovely and super interesting video of one of the most beautiful churches in the world.
Wonderful production. Enthralled with the beauty and historical strength projected.
What a wonderful intruduction and pleasure to experience the Choristers' vocation.
Appreciate tour showing history
EXCELLENT!!! This has made my heart smile, thank you 💕
My son is a student at the abbey. It is his favourite place in the world, aside from home.
I forget which Cathedral but years ago one of the boys choirs was visiting Canada and about 5 boys were billeted in my house...they were all boy too, very excited, they were mesmerized by our full basement
beautifully produced..thanks.
Thank you so much for this!!
IMPORTANT NOTE: This channel is about music and choirs, not about religion or institutions. Genuine differences of opinion are tolerated, when expressed in a civilised manner, but abuse, insults and slander are not. People attempting to leave comments of that nature will find their comments suppressed, both now and in the future, and may, in extreme cases, be reported to RUclips. Please respect each other and what this channel is about.
Well put.
Thank you: Wonderful presentation. All blessings to you.
This channel is part of my daily bread.. enough said.
Our wonderful heritage!
Beautiful
Added to my bucket list: 'Attend a Candlemas at WA. Be part of something very special.
For Architect, Ptolemy Dean regarding the maintenance of the abbey. It's like what the Bible says in Matthew 9:16-17 No one puts a piece of unshrunk cloth on an old garment; for [c]the patch pulls away from the garment, and the tear is made worse. 17 Nor do they put new wine into old wineskins, or else the wineskins [d]break, the wine is spilled, and the wineskins are ruined. But they put new wine into new wineskins, and both are preserved.”
Fantastic!
When I was in london I wanted to go to Evensong. I missed it by 2 minutes. Plus seeing all the famous tombs and people was daunting and exciting.
Standing on the bones. It was beautiful. I'm an honorary (American) docent of the Pyx Chamber. 🤗 Only given the shadow position due to my ebullience about every corner of the wondrous buildings.
Brings to mind something Haydn taught Mozart, "The genius is in the shouty bits." See moment 53:50
Im not religious. But I believe in spirituality. If I lived in London I think I would attend services here. The building is amazing.
The world's favourite Abbey.
Not an abbey as there is no longer an abbot. It is a misnomer.
Thank, Henry III, and Edward the confessor.
Something out of our lost history is what these huge churches are, these were not built at the times told by the people in those times, completely impossible. These buildings were not religious buildings at the time they were built, there were no religions back then, not like today, these buildings that housed healing properties and capable of what is now known as free energy. People are so brain washed when they walk into the Abby that was built for far larger humans can't understand why they look so tiny in this giants building.!
@Volkfire The size and style of this Abbey church simply followed the gothic structures of the time. Henry III rebuilt the Abbey very much in the style of Amiens Cathedral in Northern France, and employed French architects to build it. It was a deliberate attempt to build an impressive coronation venue. Westminster Abbey still remains to this day in the personal possession of the Sovereign.
@@ds1868 This, I did not know regarding the 'personal possession' bit. Fascinating!
ds1868, the Abbey is the property of the Anglican Church. As a “royal peculiar,” its dean reports directly to the Sovereign rather than the Archbishop of Canterbury, and it is the parish church of the Sovereign, but not his or her personal property.
WOW!
I Loved when they started singing Palestrinas Missa Brevis
I find these religious documentaries very interesting. Ptolemy Dean appeared in the architectural programmes which decided which listed buildings in the different regions would be repaired. His fellow architect was Marianne Suhr. Dean looks very distinguished in clerical attire!
You said there were three parts to the full documentary - thanks for uploading Part 3 !!!
Part 3 is Christmas-themed, so if you have a little more patience... (!)
Oof
@@ArchiveofRecordedChurchMusic Don't know if you know about the Crypt of Ripon Cathedral being the longest surviving in the country? :) Also take your time don't worry about it would be great to see that if it's not been uploaded already, take care and nice work! (infact no scratch that great work!)
Subtítulos por favor, gracias
55:30 The organist is gettin' down on his organ! He is gettin' down indeed! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
great !!!
Got here after watching the #QueensFuneral at Westminster Abbey
I always wondered if they ran into problems getting all the boys there to perform. Thinking of how life can be busy, things can happen so it makes sense for them to live there! 😂 What an experience for them!
Westminster is a beautiful building and has some wonderful traditions, but the formality is a bit overwhelming to most people. I was raised that the church was sacred and to be maintained by the members NOT THE GUESTS.
Commonwealth Observance has changed since I first attended in 1978.
So, the services are still conducted in a language that most of the people don’t know, just like the Catholic Church used to be before Henry the 8th broke away. The actions in the Abby reminds me of many Catholic services I have attended in my lifetime.
The church of England isn't a million miles away from the old Catholic traditions. You are quite correct
Anglican..half and half.
Not radical like late King Edward Vl (1547-1553)nor late Queen Mary l (1553-1558)
The middle ground..
Late Queen Elizabeth 1- smart
(1558-1603)
Sevices spoken in English and the singing can be sung in Latin....(shugs) either way the middle ground.
the services are generally conducted in English (or, more correctly, in the vernacular); although at certain collegiate churches associated with the universities, where the scholars know Latin, they may be conducted in Latin. In any event, Latin church music remains a large part of Anglican liturgical life.
gail handschuh, no, services are almost entirely in English and for centuries Latin has been frowned on until recently. If you actually watch the entire three parts of the documentary this is, in fact, mentioned in the second part of the series.
@@inkyguy The Latin Book of Common prayer actually was used by many English college chapels until 19th
Gluten-Free body of Jesus...
Weird, right?
Dommage que ça ne soit pas sous titré en fràcais
Malheureusement, la BBC ne l'a pas diffusé avec des sous-titres en langues étrangères.
Alegri's Miserere?
Can you sing a catholic piece in a Protestant Church? I have a catholic background...I'm curious.
Of course, why not. The Church of England had its basis in the Catholic church.
The answer is yes. Having said that it rarely "feels" the same when Catholic music is sung in Protestant places although the Abbey was of course a Benedictine foundation. At least it survived the catastrophe of the reformation
The director of the choir at the Abbey when filmed in 2012 and still there Mr. O'Donnell shown with the choir boys is Roman Catholic. This Abbey choir sang at St. Peter's in Rome at the express wish of Pope (now emeritus) Benedict XVI at an important mass. Allegri's Miserere is sung in concert halls, in college chapels open to students of many Christian faiths and in high church places such as Anglican and probably Lutheran as well. Now obviously low church Protestants would not sing it (Pentecostals and Baptists and Evangelicals) because it is in Latin, and associated with Rome. So, it depends on the church and the denomination.
@@taiscealai Please explain why Catholic music 'feels' different sung in Protest places. I am an atheist but love the historical implications of religion and politics.
@@jackmorrison7379 O'Donnell, A Catholic of Irish descent? They understand choral music so well. As do the Welsh and English. Scots too, probably.
Church music in the 1700s was meant to be sung by male choirs; and there is absolutely nothing that will replace boy's voices at a certain stage of their prime lung development (Ages 11-13); and female voices singing the part cannot seem to impart that unique tonal quality.
55.00 Gluten free wafers. And Alcohol free wine? I haven't yet heard on anyone having an anaphylactic fit at communion, but one has to take precautions. After all, church going is a high risk activity! Have mercy upon us!
Due to health concerns, some people require gluten-free Jesus meat.
I think the reason you haven’t heard of any is perhaps because these sort of precautions are in place
Many of my ancestors were married here.
Many of mine too, and buried
Meditation is a great way for choristers to achieve voice control and prayer at the same time. May be the choristers should be taught the Jesus Prayer or the Mystery of the Cross meditations to help their singing and prayer life
What about in the bottom right corner. Those woman are looking at someone with compassion. That person can only be the Magdalen.
Very nice, just one slight imprecision... St. Peteris is t the founder of the Church but it's first pope and one of the apostles of Jesus, who's the actual founder of the Church ...
Oh please! St Peter did NOT found Westminster Abbey.
I feel privalaed, jusy being allowed to view the daily routine routine of our Holy of Holy Church of England.
This documentary reminds me that Anglicanism is merely “Roman Catholic Lite”. It’s got all the rituals with only half the guilt…
Yeah. To all intents and purposes it is, and it’s difficult to differentiate between the two traditions in an aesthetic sense. It was largely a political reformation though obviously papal authority or infallibility and transubstantiation was the cut off point . It definitely wasn’t in keeping with the kind of sola scriptura reformation that happened across the rest of Northern Europe.
@@Aidan9-z9c Westminster Abbey is High Church Anglican rather than Anglo-Catholic (Roman Catholic Lite). This style of Churchmanship gave birth to the High Church Evangelical Anglicans or Methodists. Though it uses sung liturgies and similar to Roman Catholic worship style it is also very much Calvinist with a dash of Lutheranism in doctrine.
ဝက္စမင္စတာ အာေဘး....
Lol.
@
Talking heads.
The Abbey should have a girl’s choir too or include girls. Tradition is fine, but let’s live in 2021 and be inclusive.
Let's not. Let's keep a little bit of tradition and not have diversity and inclusivity everywhere.
The Abbey is bound by precisely worded statutes that encompass the composition of its choir, the manner of its upkeep and the frequency of its contribution to sung offices. The addition of girls would require the dilution or alteration of those statutes. It should be noted especially that the Abbey Choir School is not equipped with facilities to board and lodge girls alongside boys; indeed, experience in other choral foundations suggests that the optimum age of a girl chorister for the Abbey would be higher than that of the optimum (and biologically necessary) optimum age of the boys, thus it would be necessary to expand the school to accommodate older girls alongside younger boys, though there is clearly finite space in the Abbey Precincts that would preclude this.
The Abbey does welcome visiting choirs to sing during times when its own choir is on leave, and many of those include girls and women. The Abbey can also call upon professional women singers to make up a choir for special occasions or emergencies, so it cannot be said that the Abbey opposes female choristers or would exclude them absolutely.
A MUST WATCH & SHARE , ------------ " Let My People Go , Modern Slavery ".
Great building ruined by religious claptrap
You won't be doing Christmas then?😎
You have no idea what the building's purpose is then?
That’s the building’s purpose 💀
Without the "religious claptrap" the building would not exist.
Bit like saying the British Museum would be beautiful if not for all the historical artefacts, or the National Gallery would be wonderful if it wasn’t for all the paintings.🙄