8 Led Zeppelin Songs That 'Rip Off' Other Songs
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- Led Zeppelin are infamous for the amount of lyrics, melodies and riffs that they "borrowed" from the blues and rock artists who came before them. Of course, it is fine to be inspired and influenced by great artists and songs but, if you're going to take somebody else's work and use it as the foundation of your new song, at least consider paying them some royalties or credit!
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0:00 Introduction
0:57 Whole Lotta Love VS. You Need Love
2:25 Bring It On Home VS. Bring It On Home
3:40 The Lemon Song VS. Killing Floor
4:36 Dazed & Confused VS. Dazed & Confused
6:25 Babe I'm Gonna Leave You VS. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
7:33 Black Mountain Side VS. Blackwaterside
8:17 Rock and Roll VS. Keep A-Knocking
9:21 Stairway to Heaven VS. Taurus
LZ didn't "rip off" other songs; they just Pagerized them.
The guy didn't kill him, he just took his life.
He didn’t rape her he just gave her a surprised one night stand
@@surfk9836 I think you guys are missing the joke here, the guy says "Pagerized", playing on Jimmy Page's name, and how they stole music
I see and I like what you did there. Underrated comment. Bravo!
That was pretty good! Congrats!
“Hippity Hoppity your song is now my property” - 4 English Lads
"Pay up" : Music Company lawyers.
eh they made most the songs better and modern not saying it was right but aye who am i to say anything
@@sunkintree nahhhh
@@PadawanIan I disagree about that,
@@TimothyLafreniere that’s cool
The sad thing is Zep never needed to plagiarize their lyrics. They could have given credit where credit was due, and their cover versions would still have been amazing!
they didnt plagiarise. they followed the blues tradition of paying homage to what had happened in the past, with passing references. "Bring it on home".... of course the 20 seconds of intro / outro is the older song.... the MAIN song though.... pure Page / Plant. this is the thing... blues artists up til then did this all the time. made reference to others lyrics & licks... but none of them made any money. Zeppelin made astronomical amounts of money in the 70's (around 1973 onwards... ironically enough, when they dropped the blues interpretations) .... so the lawsuits came about 10 years later (in the 80's when lawyers took over the world) and here we are. the ONLY time Zeppelin actually ripped off a song and deserved to get sued was the Jake Holmes song. THAT was wrong.
Whatever helps you sleep at night 😂
The reason was greed. By not crediting anyone they didn't have to pay out any money. If you was to play a riff or lick someone else wrote, that's one thing. When you take an entire song someone else wrote, and credit yourself as the writer, it's outright theft, and zeppelin did that.
The point is that they've made a fortune out of stealing other peoples' work, and claiming it as their own. It's criminal.
@@rickbailey-ty8bqCorrect.
willie dixon's legacy is the most underrated thing in music. period.
Willie was also prone to ripping other artists off
I completely agree we’ll said Sir
@@gordonbgraham yep, very common in older blues
One critic said that LZ was his favorite cover band.
I agree. But elevating a song to a new level should not be named a cover. But hey, who is going to be the judge of better? But indeed the original writer/performer needs to be credited and payed regardless.
My uncle says that all the time and I’ve never known why lol
Their original songs are enough to make them the greatest rock band.
They did it fucking excellent, every one is epic. All LZ originals are amazing and there are alot of them. Best live band by far. Bonzo is by far the best drummer too
They probably are the greatest cover band of all time. But they're also a great originals band (Houses of the Holy might be their best album and it seems to be completely original) which means they're legends for a good reason.
There's nothing wrong with being inspired to the point of copying someone else song, but be a man about it and give them the proper credit and the royalties. Even if the copied version is better, it's still not their own. Great video by the way. Thanks for sharing.
Nothing wrong getting caught ! wake up man ,,,,,,,,go update your Taylor Swift playlist
@@CP-kb1du Hahahaha that was hilarious tbh
9:34 Reminds me of that scene in Amadeus, where Mozart fixes Salieri's song and makes it better. ROFL
@@CP-kb1du interesting attempt at english i particularly like the weird thirty commas you put in for no apparent reason
They actually did. Zep has a dozen or so songs that gave normal cover credits at the time of recording, including 3 of the 8 songs on Led Zeppelin 1. Have to remember that they were all in their early 20s for the recording of most of the "problem" tracks. We probably shouldn't have high expectations about their ability to navigate copyright.
Funny thing is that led zep is also one of the band that is the strictest about their copyrights and never accept reuse of their songs catalog for games like guitar hero or for commercials.
And the Beastie Boys...
Their song “ rock n roll”( been a long time) WAS used several years ago.in a car commercial. I think it was for Cadillac.
Yes, they are very proprietorial about their copyright, but were shameless about stealing from others back in the day. A scumbag way to behave, and they didn't need to, they did actually also create original enough music too.
@@mattk9089they mixed beautifully the blues songs they reused. They are kinda like dj of their times in a way.
@@mattk9089 I can understand bands not wanting their songs selling stuff on adverts
Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull once said, there are only so many riffs and notes (144), a guitar player can play, and if someone is using mine, it only shows my genius.
Like Hotel California?
Obviously that ignores microtonal music
all they had to do was credit the artists and paid them royalties.
All you had to do was credit the artists and paid them royalties, CJ!
The ones they did repay....were only from a certain date and not from the initial release of said song.Not back dated.
@@StratsRUs The out of court settlements “for an undisclosed amount” would have compensated the original writers for royalties that predate the settlement.
How were they to know how successful they would become? Why weren’t the original songs just as successful?
@@gaspingfortruth why does that matter? Just credit the original artist everytime you want to use someone else's song. How hard is that?
"All musicians are thieves, the good ones take it somewhere new and the great ones do it more than once." -- Muddy Waters.
Zeppelin made the blues a 1000 times better than what it was,so what if they ripped them off,its 2021,i think it's to late too bring it up now
@@henrygriffen40 They did't do the stealing in 2021.
We know how YOU'D react if YOUR property was stolen: you'd whine all the way to court.
We're talking about Black musicians who were routinely ripped off before "Led Zeppelin" even existed. How many times must they be ripped off before you'll consider the theft significant?
@@henrygriffen40 In what fucking universe? That’s a ridiculous opinion! The blues was born out of the African American experience, Zeppelin could never understand that, or recreate the feeling the blues expresses.
@@jnagarya519 Found the white hater. You're all over these comment threads. Get a new hobby.
@@Rubberbandfan1
But they did.. zeppelin took the blues and put heavy guitar and drums.. then Plants insane voice.. they totally reworked those songs into new one. No rip offs.. no copying.. completely reworked.. almost unrecognizable..
You forgot “When the levie breaks”. I’ve heard the original played on a steel acoustic by a Mississippi blues artist.
I was amazed at the range of genre of songs that led zepplin made at that time. How could any band come up with such a diverse and rich songs? Well, they weren't the creative gods that I thought they were but they did improved on those songs.
At least some of their later work had to be original.
on parle des chansons qu ils ont copié, il faudrait plutôt transformé, leur seul tort c est de ne pas avoir crédité la plupart de ces chansons aux auteurs , pas très honnête de leur part, et si on parlait aussi de toutes les autres qu ils ont écrit et composé , toutes ces histoires que connaissent tous les inconditionnels de Led Zeppelin n enlevent en rien leur génie créatif
They improved songs thanks to the technology they had at their disposal in the late '60s and early '70s. Days of scratchy vinyl records were long gone but the true spirit of original blues was captured by musicians who lived the blues. Have mercy and RIP.
Interview Plant did explains his shock Americans were burying much blues artist due to racial issues. They brought it out proudly and never denied the copy/ influence.
@@Number4lead A lot of their work was original and much of it was the best they ever did. Seems like the Brits in general got their stat in rock playing blues originally done by dirt poor blacks in U.S. You could say they improved it but they had better instruments and technology. Original blues guys had the spirit.
Zeppelin’s music is great. Just disappointing that they didn’t credit the original writers until they were sued.
I wouldn't stand next to any member of that band -- probably would pick my pocket.
That is the behavior of assholes.
Say what you will but I still love Zeppelin’s music. All blues and blues-rock were inspired by the delta bluesmen. Do I listen to records of the originals? No, really, with much respect, but I like Zeppelin’s rock sound. Even David acknowledges in the video the tunes are better versions musically. THEY JUST SHOULD HAVE CREDITED THE ORIGINAL WRITERS. It wouldn’t have taken away anything from their music if they did. And they’re definitely guilty for not doing so.
@@jnagarya519 They wouldn’t need to pick your pocket, they’ve got enough already.
@King Vegemite "Zeppelins music isn't that great when you realise it's not Zeppelins music.. That's the whole point of this video"
You must not have watched this video because that wasn't the point at all.
@@halflanding1900 there are a lot of good cover bands out there.
In 1976, when I was 14, Paul Hagan (in third form) used to get his older brother to transfer all his Led Zeppelin albums on to tape for me at one dollar a pop. I don’t feel so bad now.
Hahaha!
I got them all as copies on cassette as well
You are allowed to make copies of anything. You just can't sell /gift them to anyone.
"Amateurs barrow, professionals steal." Picasso. It's how art progresses.
Correct! How many hundreds of bands have helped themselves to Zeppelin riffs. Countless
Oh really? Who did Picasso steal his style from?
I mean, everybody has influences, the difference is between the people who have their own way of putting it together into something new, and those who are just repeating the work of others. Zep are definitely in the first category.
That statement is not meant to be justifying stealing, it’s meant to show the unfairness of the art world and how it’s driven by monetary gains.
This statement has been made by many great artists but it has been clarified to mean that you use what someone else has made to make something better, or at least different. Not literally steal it. If you take it literally then I have some songs to sell you. I think my best song is called blowin in the wind.
look, i been composing and performing music for 25+ years and almost everything ive ever created was "inspired" by something or someone else. either the vibe, the atmosphere the arrangement, the combination of instruments used, the energy. its unavoidable. cause no matter what kind of melody or chord progression you come up with will have the vibe of something else and you'll gravitate toward inserting it into that "feel" or style. cause if that werent the case you'd literally have to invent a whole new never before done genre everytime you compose a song. but what these guys did was pure plagiarism. biting a vibe or feel is one thing. stealing riffs and melodies is a whole nother ball game.
Inspired and stealing entire verses are two different things.
@@UhuruSasa85 What verses, where?
They have lost in court a number of times attempting your argument.
Except in most cases Jimmy Page added completely dominant melody lines that departed from the originals. At best any of these wronged artists could claim a third credit. In almost every situation the new songs/adaptations were improved .
@@Rooktoven yeah but its the main essence of a once in a lifetime riff/melody thats the hard part (not the variations you can do with it). take something like that "in the garden of eden"
main riff...who COULDNT jam, improvise , write songs around and shred for hours over that beast of a central motif???
You've educated, and disappointed me with that . Very well done. One band that didn't do this was Humble Pie with their Rocking the Fillmore live album( absolutely wonderful) where they put rock songs to their own music but everything was credited to the original composers. Decent people.
I'm not sad that Led Zeppelin existed. That music needs to exist. Giving credit where it's due is also a necessity. One shouldn't need to be forced by a lawsuit to do that.
EXACTLYEEE 💢
WELL SAID!!
@@theethnicist5678 I've seen your comment elsewhere
@Michelle Plombe
Maybe?
Especially when those bands can't afford to take on LZ lawyers. Shame!! Just give credit. Beatles used to insist on Black Idols coming on stage with them and plugging their music. Props to that. Jeff Buckley had so many influences and he spoke with such admiration. He gave writing credits on his covers constantly "Hallelujah" for Jeff. I'd say that his covers are less Pagerised than LZ "influences". It's interesting that LZ were big fans of Jeff Buckley too. They must just be like damn, wish we could cover songs like that!!
Amen to that Brother.
I was a kid when I heard Led Zeppelin for the first time and it was pure magic. To this day I love their music. Nonetheless
I laugh and I'm embarrassed when I read a couple of badly triggered comments on this video`from people who claim "This is not a rip off", "That's just taking inspiration.", They didn't plagiarized, they made the songs better.", and some other ridiculous nonsense.
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They (maybe willingly) seem to ignore the fact that it's not about showing respect to another artist, performing a tribute or homage, being inspired or influenced, evolving a song, making it better or whatever. It's about copyrights infringement. It's about putting your name under a song and claiming it's yours. It's about trying not to paying royalties and not giving proper credit. It's about, last but not least, money. That's why more than once in this video you hear "the case was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount of money".
Yes, they mostly improved the songs. Yes, they presented the songs to a larger audience. Yes, they're the ones who made the songs popular and successful. It doesn't change the fact that they systematically stole from other artists while they knew exactly what they where doing.
It obviously is, but it shouldn't be that difficult to recognize it, especially because those facts will never exclude the most important fact, which is that Led Zeppelin is undeniably one of the greatest and most influential rock band of all times.
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I'm glad you have quotations around "Rip Off". In American roots music and even its ancestor, the fiddle music of England, Ireland, and Scotland, there is a long tradition of borrowing licks, lyrics etc and combining them in different ways to make it your own. It is not stealing, it's part of the blues tradition. If you were to try to credit those, who actually created it, you'd have to go so far back into history there would be no documentation.
Difference was back in the day nobody was making millions of dollars doing all of that 'borrowing'.
The sad thing is, no one would have thought any less of them if they had simply said, "This is our interpretation of the classic blues tune by X."
there would have been more royalties to pay, though
@@cl8804 Indeed. Which makes it all that more disgusting.
@@todwest you love it, you know you do
@@cl8804 I was never a Zeppelin fan. All my friends were. I was into Queen, Bowie, Steely Dan, Little Feat. Never disliked them, particularly, but they also weren't my thing.
But they didn’t. That’s the issue. They claimed these as their own.
Speaking of Willie Dixon. He has an autobiography called "I Am The Blues", 1990. You want to know about the most prolific Chicago blues songwriter? This is the book that reveals his upbringing and life in Chicago and Chess Records. Highly Recommended.
Also has an album by that name, which was one of the first blues albums I ever bought, I think along with Robert Johnson's King of the Delta Blues Singers.
One of the best, most engaging autobiographies I ever read. Perhaps even the best. Dixon lived a very interesting life. I bought a copy shortly after its release. Yes, highly recommended!
Willie Dixon WAS Chess Records. He did everything, including songwriter, arranger, engineering, session musician, inventing "echo" with black stand pipe.
SRV did several Willie Dixon covers but also credited him too
@@thetruthisoutthere8598 Yeah, because by that time, the world was infested with lawyers.
More songs ripped off by Led Zeppelin (PS: they are credited in most of the songs but still):
You Shook Me (Jeff Beck)
It's Nobody's Fault But Mine (Blind Willie Johnson)
When The Levee Break (Memphis Minnie)
Gallis Pole (Fred Gerlach/Taditionnal)
Gallows pole is a rip off of a Irish folk song over 200rs old so get out of here
@@Duck_DodgersLook at the original album labels. No credit given on any of these or the ones in the vid. They were credited on subsequent reissues after being sued! Riffs are always being copied but Zep take the absolute piss by ripping off the lyrics!
I'm a huge Zeppelin fan, and I used to work at a music store with a guy who was a huge blues connoisseur and he basically started listing all the songs they KNOWINGLY stole. It was disappointing that they had to be forced to do the right thing for their supposed heroes. I lost a lot of respect for them after that.
Yeah, watching this video, I don't mind that they yoinked songs from other people. That's kind of how art works: it's hard to make a TRULY original work.
What makes me lose respect for LZ Is that when they were rich and famous they STILL fought the artists who wanted some credit and compensation.
@@ProfDCoyIt’s not that easy IMO. I don’t know the details, but I can imagine that some of these lawsuits have been diminishing Zeppelins contribution on the other hand. I mean, treating all these songs as just-covers is also totally missed as they gained a new soul thanks to LZ.
@@xe71in many cases, made them listenable
Just did today and im black
I never have. I've heard all the songs. They were worth one listen. Led Zeppelin's songs that were derived from other songs are timeless and I listen to them all over and over. They just took something raw and produced something great. No music comes out of a vacuum. Blues was all about playing other people's songs. The only reason why some songs in folk genres are public domain is because there wasn't a music publishing industry happening when those songs were floating around.
Every Brit band from the 60s were in love with the blues. I'm grateful they were... unlikely the originals would have sold well. Nevertheless, credit where due. That goes for Clapton, The Who, Yardbirds, The Beatles, Stones, etc.
Every? Even Pink Floyd?
@@dabbudholak - in Syd Barrett times - yes
@@Amandacana I disagree. Barrett’s Pink Floyd was very British-sounding. Whimsical psychedelic pop with folk undertones and the occasional guitar distortion. The most bluesy thing about them was their name.
@@dabbudholak Named after blues musicians Pink Anderson and Floyd Council. So yeah. Plus Gilmours leads are all blues based pentatonic scales. Also many "blues" chord progressions in many of their songs.
The originals would not have sold well because labels and distributors wouldn’t put marketing dollars behind Black artists. It was straight racism.
I can’t wait for LZ’s new album “Settled Out of Court For An Undisclosed Amount”
Good one
The Beatles had a handful of songs they took without permission, too. The difference is...
Of Zeppelin, Tom Petty, Cougar Mellencamp, The Beatles, others...
Only Led Zeppelin gave us mountains from rocks, and diamonds from rocks. The others only made pieces if tiles from rocks.
Reason I hate British bands.
Least OUR whiteboys make THIER OWN music🇺🇸
^yeah, just like elvis ey?
@@og-greenmachine8623
Hell yeah, rock and roll with cheeseburger
There is the also other way around: X covers a known song but changes the music entirely and in the end, gives 100% of the credit to the original composers. I have two examples: Misty Blue by Engelbert Humperdinck and House of the rising sun by Tracy Chapman. Although the latter is a public domain song.
Then you have Rihanna's SOS which samples the synth of Soft Cell's cover of Tainted Love, but the original writer of Tainted Love, Ed Cobb, gets the writing credit. Rihanna didn't sing any words from Tainted Love.
@@Chelaxim You know why? It's because a song is ONE. You cannot take away the words and change them. But if you do so you have to give credit to the writer even though you don't sing one word of the writer's lyrics like in your example.
Another weird thing about Zeppelin's approach to credits is that on their first album Robert Plant received no writing credit at all! Not for Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, not for anything. I believe that has since changed. And ironically, in view of later issues, on that first album they did give sole credit to Willie Dixon on two songs.
Ah so they didn't even credit their own songwriters... Zeppelin is a weird case.
Apparently because of contract issues.
Point of order - the intro of 'Rock & Roll' starts on the 'and' of beat 3, rather than on beat 1 - doing that means you won't need to stick those bars of 3/4 and 5/8 in and it all lines up in 4/4.
Bonzoleum
My life changed the day I realized this.
*drum nerd enters the chat and paradiddlediddles the keyboard*
@@nettles89 yes!! Used to drive me nuts as a guitar player - I never came in right because I thought it started on beat one.
Yes. The notation of Keep a knockin is nuts too. And they are _not_ the same.
"You only get caught if you're successful" daaaaamn
That part actually makes sense. Getting permission to make and publish a modified version of a copyrighted song is typically somewhere between difficult and impossible, especially if you are not (yet) rich and famous.
Kinda shows what they thought of their prospects. Little did they know...
@@paulperkins1615 Something that happens constantly usually isn't difficult or impossible.
Oh please, man..... This crap started much earlier with Elvis Presley (whom I'm a huge fan of) and he too never gave the proper credit to the black blues men he was trying to "imitate"!
@@paulperkins1615 No it isn't. One doesn't need permission -- one only must give credit and pay the royalties.
Should mention also that Willie Dixon took credit for other people's work a number of time. "My Babe" is the gospel song "This Train (Is Bound for Glory)" with different lyrics. He also "borrowed" from Tex Ritter, Charlie Patton and Howlin Wolf.
among others as well
probably because old gospel and blues melodies are hundred if not hundreds of years old
Yeah, blues culture was that there was no shame in 'recycling' lyrics. I recently found out that the refrain 'That's all right Mama, that's all right for you', supposedly ripped off by Elvis from the Blues, actually comes from the much older folk song Bachelors Hall - unless that was ripped off from something else...
that's true.
David does not mention it here but the Lemon Song prominently contains the lyrics "Down on this Killing Floor" repeated three times in the song. It's in plain sight not just in other similarities.
The line ‘squeeze my lemon’ was from Robert Johnson ‘ Travelling riverside blues’ the rest was the Wolfs(Chester Burnets) Killing Floor.
Yeah some - not all - of the lyrics came from those songs, but those guys in turn used loads of lyrics and riffs that were around in Blues culture. And the _music_ of Lemon Song is totally different from either of them. It's not really a rip-off to use a refrain, or generic blues lyrics. Zep's real crime was that they made a lot of money out of it, where the old blues men didn't.
The only thing they ever did that really was a rip-off was Black Mountainside, which just slightly re-arranges Bert Jansch's Black Water Side.
@@paddymeboyand Bertie inch got the song from an old Celtic folk song so everybody rips off everyone. If you look at some of muddy Waters songs he put his own name on there but they are rip-offs of old blues songs by Robert Johnson and some 30s guys so they all f****** do it . Howlin Wolf said he wrote 44 blues and he's credited for it but the song goes back to tommy Johnson. Some of Willie Dixon songs that he says he wrote he borrowed verses from old classic blues songs from the 20s he just rearranged them so the white kids wouldn't know the difference. John Lee Hooker is credited to have written crawling King Snake but the song goes back to Tony Hollis . Ignorant white kids seem to think that led Zeppelin ripped all these songs off because they don't know about blues. And furthermore it's not led Zeppelin's job to find out the proper credits and give the royalty these people it's the lawyers of the record companies job to suss all that out . Not page . some of these old blues songs the statue of limitations ran out years ago and the original artist never got around to copywriting it properly so the song was up for grabs in the 60s to whoever wanted to slap their name on there and led Zeppelin's record company took full advantage of that with or without plant and page knowing . Everybody does it . Van Halen ripped off the beginning of jump from an old Slade song . Eddie ripped off the beginning of eruption from an old black Arkansas song note for note . Until he goes into all that fancy finger-tapping which he didn't invent either cuz that goes back to the 30s with Roy smack . But I like your comment because you're one of the few people who understands this . 😊
I believe that in the first two albums, they “stole” the majority of the songs that are called into question, because one all blues musicians already did this, they were a touring band who on the first album spent 9 hours in the studio to make something they can sell on their first tour, Robert plant didn’t really write any of his own lyrics until Thank you. After these first two albums there are still some of these thefts but nowhere near to scale. In hindsight, yes Led Zeppelin should have given credit to all the musicians they were inspired or ripped off, but as a musician myself, I can’t count how many times I wrote a song after hearing a riff by jimmy page or Keith Richards and it almost sounds the exact same. The difference is that these guys made these songs way better and nobody cared until they could get money from it. Think about all these musicians getting brought into a new era of music by bands like zeppelin.
"Led Zeppelin" is not a "new era". They are warmed-over "Yardbirds".
And you never would have heard of them if "The Beatles" hadn't turned the flow of music from US to world, to UK to US and world.
@@jnagarya519 very true compared to the Beatles, Led Zeppelin can seem very one dimensional in some regards
Yeah, but taking elements from a song, as opposed to just doing a whole section of a song, melody and lyrics together, are two different things. The Beatles did the former. Led Zeppelin did the latter.
@@jnagarya519 I love both bands, but Zeppelin is more "fully-cooked" Yardbirds than "warmed-over". Plant alone is in a different league than Relf (RIP, and no shame in taking second place to Plant).
Yeah, but, see, that ripped off melodies and lyrics. I'm also a musician, and I get inspired by a LOT of music, but I never rip off a song. A moment in a song grabs me, and I instantly use that feeling to do something that's my own. It's like I have an idea where the song would go if I did it. It goes into a completely different direction, the chords and melodies are completely different, but the feeling I had hearing that one part remains. Led Zeppelin were blatant about their theft. It's not even inspiration, it's theft.
Back then, everyone borrowed lyrics, melodies and riffs, and waited to see if the lawyers sent a copyright claim. It still happens today. That is how the industry wirks.
Both Jimmy Page and Robert Plant were always open about Zeppelin's delta blues core, and their open influences being old traditional blues songs, some by Willie Dixon, Howlin Wolf, etc. But also many of those songs were already influenced through oral blues and folk tradition by previous unknown or unpublished artists.
And it was also the record companies and their business that handled the credits, mostly for transcribing and publishing sheet music, not really a bands'.
And in the later instance, as you said, a similar beat, riff, or chord in music is not anywhere close to an actual "song."
“As I chanced the air…” - beautiful lyric.
“Version by Rick Beato to avoid copyright claim” - very meta.
I love watching Rick great musician and teacher
Here are more songs Led Zeppelin "borrowed"
It's Nobody's Fault but Mine - Blind Willie Johnson
The Gallis Pole - Lead Belly
Traveling Riverside Blues - Robert Johnson
The Waggoner's Lad - Bert Jansch (Bron-yr-aur Stomp)
Shake em on down - Bukka White (Hats off to Roy Harper)
Jesus Make Up My Dying Bed - Blind Willie Johnson (In My Time of Dying)
Ooh! My Head - Ritchie Valens (Boogie With Stu)
You Shook Me (Muddy Waters)
I Can't Quit You Baby (Otis Rush)
When The Levee Breaks (Kansas Joe McCoy & Memphis Minnie)
Gallows pole really is traditional.
There's also a song by an old blues man Sleepy John Estes that's called 'Drop Down Mama'. Uncannily, and I'm sure not accidentally, similar to Custard Pie.
When the Levee Breaks, Memphis Minnie. 1929 I believe. Written about the great flood of the Mississippi river in 1927. Then the opening drum beat by Zeppelin was sampled by the Beastie Boys on the song Rhymin & Stealin in 1986. With the guitar riff from Black Sabbath’s 1971 song Sweet Leaf backing the drums. I greatly enjoy many types of music. Nothing is original 😂. It’s not what you play, it’s how you play it. Please everyone. Keep in mind, there are truly only two types of music. Music that you like and music that you don’t. Your taste cannot define music as “good” or “bad”.
Blues music and riffs is very common to be Borrowed by many of famous artists and none them give credit not because they plagiarize but because blues music can be played by many people but artist will add their own stuff and make it theirs and improvise and have fun with it, that's what led Zeppelin did, so they are not the only ones
Now that I think of it, this reminds me a lot of the sampling process in hip hop. You take a piece to build a song upon it. The only issue in this case was the lack of acknowledgement.
Uh, no: there is also the issue of ROYALTIES -- MONEY.
artistically its different, a sample are often used in beats with original lyrics over top of it.
All music is built upon the music that came before it. There's a very finite combination or notes/chords... however the melody/rhythm is where orginaility comes into play.
@@queenhenry3314 the melody/rhythms which led zeppelin is also known to steal lol
@@TheRyanDuffinProject Touche, Guevara. Definition of dry wit..
Mick Jagger always mentioned listening to "black" gospel and blues music and stated multiple times that they were bringing their music to the forefront. The likes of Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson were more famous and respected in the UK than the states. Yeah Brit bands ripped them off, but helped them gain the recognition they deserved. Many toured the UK and were treated like the stars they were
Distance often increases respect
I wonder if the Stones paid royalties to the people they covered. They seem to always have given fair credit.
Perfect example of cultural appreciation
@@alicequayle4625 Good question
This is not nothing new.this happened" oftentimes.. a common occurrence it wasn't just British Bands " that plagiarize them,""it in happened in America,,and the bands had no intention of paying royalties..
Se faltaram os créditos, foi um erro. Mas, as versões feitas pelo LED são imortais.
The worst part about a whole Lotta love doing live performance in 1973 Robert Plant would say woman instead of honey
See also "In My Time of Dying" and "When the Levee Breaks." I love Led Zep LPs, I really do, but their failure to give credit where credit was obviously due makes me think less than highly of them as people. The Rolling Stones and Cream, to name two blues-rock acts, were meticulous about making sure their inspirations got due credit (and, hence, royalties).
In my time of dying is in the public domain and When the levee breaks gives credit to Memphis Minnie
the statutory rape also makes me think less of them
@@edwardcoit9748 not originally
Jason Schulman
I have an original copy of fourth album. So yes they did.
@@jaschul originally yes, after Led 2 there no “true” cover tracks that Zeppelin ripped off without giving credit
The Stairway to Heaven versus Taurus case is pretty much jaywalking compared to some of the other songs that Led Zeppelin ripped off. There is no doubt, though, that it was wrong for Led Zeppelin to not credit the artists whose songs they borrowed from.
The problem though, is that they were more of an influence. Zeppelin have never denied that. It's hard to say they borrowed certain songs, when they completely rewrote them.
@@skye1868 Exactly!! You never heard Albert King complaining about Stevie Ray's music!! He loved him and loved the fact HIS style of playing was appreciated and revered again!! I agree with Robert. If the songs collect and artists want compensation and credit, that's between them and management. Elvis Costello said "Everyone in the music industry are thieves and magpies. Influence is a congenial word for taking."
I think Taurus and stairway , there is a kind of inspiration but it’s slightly different melody introduction
@@brunobruno792 I think Jimmie Page just added an extra note or two to that arpeggio, and accented them, otherwise they sound very similar.
The first 6 here look to be borrowed. The last two aren't at all. Not sure how a song that you can't stomach to listen to for 15 seconds was stolen to make the most iconic song they ever did and maybe of all time.
I think it's just too much that they had multiple songs that they took heavily (melody and/or lyrics) from while keeping the same song title and everything. The line between what can be used freely and what can't is kind of blurred at times, but they did seem to definitively cross it quite a bit.
Boogie with Stu. A Ritchie Valens song "Oh my Head". Writen by Ritchie Valens and Little Richard.
Muddy Waters song, "the blues had a baby and they called it Rock n Roll "Muddy Waters was the greatest blues man ever ( just my opinion) and I also love Led Zep saw them play Perth early 70s. I'm 81 years young this year and still rocking mainly in my rocking chair. Love and peace from Australia 🎶🎵🎶🎵😜✌
All of this stuff was well documented relentlessly several decades ago. Amongst British groups at that time it was common and accepted practice to "rework" those songs without proper credit given to the original artists/writers. Of course that started to change as early as the mid-70's.
Bullshit. No, it was never common. Staggeringly asinine comment.
Yardbirds
Total British move
Stealing others music seems like it should be the record companies responsibility not so much the artist.
Blues artist have taken others songs, and lines from songs and given themself songwriting credit for them since the start of the blues .
My White buddies in the Navy introduced me to Zeppelin. One song was called "I Can't Quit You Babe". I'm like, that sounds like a blues jam. The only blues I knew was B.B. King. I end up in Chicago, a big Blues town. I hear the same song, and I say, hey that's a Led Zeppelin song. My peeps are like no, that's a Albert King song. I'm like, who's Albert King? Z Z Top, same thing. They make a record called Lagrange. Back to Chicago, I hear a song called Boom Boom by John Lee Hooker and another one called Boogie Chillun. I'm like that's Z Z Top. My peeps, nope that's John Lee Hooker. So I finally decided that musicians know other musicians. Jazz, same thing. The jazz people are always riffing on "The Great American Songbook". My Favorite Things by Trane, It Never Enteted My Mind by Miles, Star Eyes by Bird, I'll Remember April by Clifford Brown, etc, etc. Musicians know other musicians, simple as that. 4:39
Were it not for Led Zeppelin, nobody today would have remembered the "great artists" that were "ripped off" by them. And had Zeppelin remained unknown, nobody, of course, would have accused them of anything, much less would anybody have sued them. Nothing more to be said on that subject.
Wrong, Muddy Waters, Dixon, Little Richard and Wolf to name a few were pretty popular, and who the hell cares now that all of them are dead?
A thief is a thief and Zep are blatant burglars.
My favorite Led song is also a cover: When The Levee Breaks, originally by Memphis Minnie. They later had to credit her
They credited her right from the get go.
They credited it already on the fourth album
Did she play with Count Basie? A long time ago I had one of his albums. I was listening to one of the songs on that record, sung by a female, and at one point it hit me, “holy shit, that’s ‘When the Levee Breaks’ “.
There's a credit to Memphis Minnie on my original pressing.
Memphis Minnie warned about the levee in 1929.
I love the smile on Willie Dixon's face every time he gets a songwriting credit. ; - )
The "SAD" thing is that generations later the origins of this music is not socially or monetarily acknowledged...make it known and pay em
The guy only gave 8 examples if you go through their back catalogue there's many more!
Personally I thought 'Since I've been loving you' 1970, was the closest taken from
Moby Grape - Never 1968
was one of the most blatant.
Nearly word for word starting from
'Working 7 to 11 every night etc' same melody, phrasing, tempo
You know who else “borrowed” blues licks and lyrics? Every blues musician ever 😂
I know, non musicians think that you should just boot strap yourself and come up with everything from scratch, as if it’s not good for everyone to have a rich tradition to draw from. But you know what musicians that come up with everything them self sound like? Poor. All great bands did this, just with varying degrees of cunning. Bands like Radiohead we’re savvy enough to dig in obscure corners of electronica from where no one would notice or care.
So much this. What a pointless video.
BUT they usually credit the SOURCE.
Yes, but they also credit and pay royalties... You tit. And they don't make an ENTIRE CAREER off other people's music. You clearly don't understand blues.
@@chriscreed6410 well you clearly don’t understand Led Zeppelin if you think their entire career is based off of other people’s music. Go listen to their originals, many of them better than every song that appears in this video… unless you count Stairway to Heaven as a plagiarized version (which it isn’t)
It goes to show how amazing black music is, not only for musical rhythm but classic songwriting talent, the most influential music in history. Love early blues from the south, this all comes from all the oppression and wrongdoing. Time we really wake up and start treating each other with respect and love.
Today's black music is so bad, that it's embarrassing to even talk about,rap sounds like music for 3 year olds
Kinda sad to think how black musicians lived very hard lives but when the british musicians did it they were treated like gods. Led Zep's act and performances were amazing, but it is certainly bitter to think about them knowing they did not actknowledge their influences and quotings
BLACK PEOPLES
Every uob& coming band in the 60s was doing this (The Doors, the Stones) but they gave credit to the originals.
Most R&R is lifting! Love Led Zep & how they made it happen! Saw them a couple times
Thanks for turning me onto these artists. Big fan of Led Zep but I preferred a few of these originals more than the rip offs, certainly Black Water Side and even Dazed and Confused was just amazing.
I am also glad that these creators got their due albeit well after the fact.
They aren't rip-offs. They are either covers or interpretations. Both of course require proper credit, but on major labels that usually isn't the artist's job (indeed they are often forbidden to even have a say. Music business has always been crooked and exploitive - and for mid-level companies such as SUN Records, it would have simply been unaffordable to fully follow the letter and spirit of the law. The good ones DID pay when they could, but most records are flops and royalties are paid on number of copies pressed, NOT on sales (as this is the only point where accurate numbers are even possible). This was a gripe of mine when I owned a tiny record label in the 90's.
@@michelleplombe7019 it's a ripoff when you take credit for the composition, it's a cover when you credit the composer
@@Dionysion But it is not a rip-off by the band in this case, but by the label. Led Zeppelin did not have the clout (nor the expertise) do have any say on the credits. (It is also not that easy .. I owned a tiny but legit record label for a two decades .. and in one case I tracked down and gave money to the writer because I happened to KNOW that the actual writer was not the person (or rather entity) who FOX Agency had slotted to receive royalties. Btw, in a quirk, royalties are paid on CD's pressed, not on sales - because sales are impossible to track. Music is a very squirrely business . or was, I don't know how things are done post record-pressing). Furthermore, - signed major label bands are paid via loans ("advances") they are not expected to pay back, but are also not expected to get more if sales are greater than expected - as they don't have access to the true books. Movie business is similar .. look up Art Buchwald. vs Paramount. [This is unique to creative industries as grocery stores, for example, sell apples that were counted (and now bar-coded!) every step of the way.
@@michelleplombe7019 Robert Plant literally said in an interview that they knew what they were doing when they were claiming authorship on songs they pilfered. That if they didn't make it it wouldn't matter and if they did make it they could both afford the lawsuit and to pay the royalties. Please stop.
@@Dionysion I can't stop it. That's up to them. Also you just provided new information (if accurate and in context - could also be a bit of British dry humor.) Anyway it is still the responsibility of the label who printed the labels. Led Zeppelin were kids at the time.
The thing about Led Zeppelin is that they really knew how to use influences to create something completely new and important for rock music, but often they used too much (like lyrics) of single songs without crediting the original writer.
Completely new huh? I have a feeling a lot of it wasn’t new.
It's in the electronic technology, not the "influences". They are warmed-over "Yardbirds".
@Stonlee Ames "Led Zeppelin" was warmed-over "Yardbirds". And the "Yardbirds didn't STEAL from those they claimed to "love".
@@Lu-em5wx The Beatles had a handful of songs they took without permission, too. The difference is...
Of Zeppelin, Tom Petty, Cougar Mellencamp, The Beatles, others...
Only Led Zeppelin gave us mountains from rocks, and diamonds from rocks. The others only made pieces if tiles from rocks.
@@markuse3472 sure they did
I heard that in an interview with Page, he brought up that Chicago’s 25 or 64 was a rip off of Led Zeppelin‘s Babe I’m Gonna to Leave You. So the interviewer, having some guts, said “Oh can, we talk about Willie Dixon?” Page walked out of the room.
No i in Page.
25 or 6 to 4
@@roboi2241 😄 Damn dictation got it wrong. I stand corrected
LOL 🤣
Jimmy needs to remember that saying about Glass Houses.
John Bonham admitted that he grabbed that Little Richard opening from his song.
I play the guitar. If I sat down and figured out a tune. The chances that someone has played that riff on another song are probably 100% that it’s been played several times on different songs for different bands.
There’s even an old Italian composition on guitar that also uses a similar descending arpeggio line like Taurus and Stairway… but it’s centuries old, so that composer can’t sue anyone.
Whats the name? I'm interested in checking it out
check out "Everyone is WRONG about Stairway to Heaven" by Brian Krock
@@mud2294 ruclips.net/video/MYSFuWU7GQs/видео.html Starting around .34.
@@neojack7011 ha ha yes . . I wonder if L Z were aware of this when Taurus sued . . I'm sure the out of court settlement would have been very different or perhaps non existant . .
Joe rm. They are called line cliches and are used a lot in music.
This video has caused me to crack up more than once, there's some definite comedy value in the repeated "for an undisclosed amount...", "found themselves in court...", "gave songwriting credits to..." Great stuff!
Looks like Zeppelin was the greatest cover band in history.
They were fecking thieves
I think Willie Dixon should definitely get some riding credit for a whole lotta love but not sole credit. The guitar riff is what makes that song.
That original version of Babe I'm Gonna Leave you was wretched. They should pay Zep for fixing it
This makes me wonder how critical they were of their "repurposing" and "inspirations". Still one of the best bands out there though. Great video btw. And thanks for the shoutout and great collab :)
Hey, you remember the dirt you did to The strokes? You really need to associate your sources and script better, like I hope you make better videos cause I think you are not giving a good reputation to this crossover.
What is so great about Zeppelin? Except that they were groundbreaking at the time.
It's strange how picky they get about people using their music for teaching proposes and block their vids. Well...since they borrowed tunes so many times. Plain stupid really.
@@shannonpincombe8485 Excellent point!
@@nedim_guitar you’re right, they’re very overrated
Taurus itself, could be said to be a lift from an earlier guitar piece by English folk guitarist Davy Graham.
That's quite correct and Graham did nothing original himself.
The drum beginning of song Rock and Roll was actually the beginning drums from little richards "i hear you knocking!"
The arpeggios in stairway run back to classical music. They stood on the shoulders of giants. Greatest band of all time.
So disillusioned. The introduction to Whole Lotta Love is wonderful, I don't know why they had to spoil it by stealing a couple of lines of lyrics! It's like they're music kleptomaniacs - stealing even though they already had so much talent.
When Page was forming Led Zeppelin one of the first people he asked to join was Steve Mariott to be the lead singer. The response from Marriott's manager was to ask Page if Page thought he could play the guitar with ten broken fingers. When I heard the Small Faces version I realized that Whole Lotta Love was also a big middle finger to Marriott and his manager. Incidentally, the Small Faces version is still credited to Marriott and Ronnie Lane. No Credit to Willie Dixon. Also, the main riff of Whole Lotta Love is Page's.
Their "talent" was the stealing.
J Nagarya
Plant, Page, Bonham, Jones had no talent except stealing?
Are you just trolling or is there something wrong with you?
@@joealexander9548 Actually its not, he stole it. It's a harmonica riff, from memory from a muddy waters song
@@tao5664 Yes, I can hear the inspiration.
Anyway, I always liked the CCS version better.
Another song to mention. Blind Willie Johnson wrote and recorded "Nobody's Fault but Mine" in 1927. The old 1927 recording of guitar string bends and vocals sound very similar to the Zepplin version also written in the key of E.
No, it doesn't sound similar at all, you fn lying hater.
I know I'd rather listen to the Led Zeppelin version. I also know that writer and copyrighter isn't the same thing.
When the levee breaks..is another one.
Memphis Minnie and her husband made the song shortly after the big (7 states) delta flood. Lz..added emotion,
Great rendition..
We can't understand why led zeppelin wood ever do choose a song like that. We still love Led Zeppelin too enjoyed forever and always .🎸🥁🎤🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶 .
The improvement in “Dazed and confused ” is MASSIVE
Yeah, it's one of those cover versions that outdoes the original. Cover version, note.
not the point
My favorite Led Zeppelin song is from their first lp. Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, written by Anne Bredon in the late 1950s. She sued and won. Joan Baez recorded it in 1962.
Which is crazy given how wildly different the songs are. The title is the same but it's hard to imagine the zeppelin version even being "inspired" by it
@@indalot8315 I read somewhere that Plant was only 20 when LZ recorded their first album and he didn't really know what to use for lyrics on a lot of the first few records so he just borrowed them from other previous songs. He even admitted it. He said something like no one cares until you're famous and successful and then they paid back royalties and would give them writing credits going forward. But yeah they did borrow a lot of music from others. I'm sure a lot of bands have. LZ version is still a great song.
The same chord progression can be found in other songs. The Beatles “While my Guitar Gently Weeps came out in 1968, Led Zeppelin’s version of “Babe I’m gonna leave you” came out in 1969, and Chicago’s “25 or 6 to 4” came out in 1970. Supposedly Jimmy Page was late to a recording session because he was out buying Chicago’s record with that song on it.
Which makes it rather ironic that their label blocked Rick Beato's video where he played the chord progression, based on 'using the melody'.
That's odd, considering it has been credited to its writer, Anne Bredon, since Joan Baez's incorrect credit as "traditional" was discovered?
And Page never sued Chicago
It's just an Andalusian cadence. See dead leaves on the dirty ground or sultans of swing
It isn't reducable to chord progressions -- which are limited in number.
Bert Jansch's song is hauntingly beautiful.
Look At Phil Collins Against All Odds and You Can't Hurry Love. He basically lifted the entire melody for AAO from that Supremes song. How about Sussudio and Prince's 1999?
This must have taken a lot of research. Nice to see you give the sources like Howlin Wolf, Muddy Waters and Willie Dixon among others. I don’t think Zep really wanted to disregard their roots but you never know. Kind of ironic that now on RUclips Zep would demonetize your video if you played their songs a little too long. 😄
Zeppelin and their management are definitely the world's biggest hypocrites on that issue.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 Without a doubt. Shameless.
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 The fastest way to turn a revolutionary into a conservative, is to let him win.
Never steal from a thief -- they get morally outraged at the wrong of it.
Best comment yet. Some of these idiots genuinely do not get it. In the days of sampling... no wonder. Nobody has original ideas anymore.
The line "squeeze my lemon til the juice runs done my leg, comes from Robert Johnson's "Traveling Riverside Blues".
I'm not going to sort through almost 5,000 comments to see if this has been mentioned (way to go by the way!). It was last week when I found "When the Levee Breaks" was released in 1929 by Kansas Joe McCoy
Page loved the Jack Orion album by Bert Jansch. He also borrowed a short riff from Bert's banjo tune from that album The Waggoner's Lad for LZ's Bron-Y-Aur Stomp. I consider that more inspiration thatn plagiarism. At first, Bert was a bit bothered that Page didn't credit him for the arrangement on Black Mountainside but shrugged it off. He said all folk and blues musicians borrow and steal from each other. Bert admitted that he borrowed from Brownie McGee, Big Bill Broonzy, and especially the musical explorer Davy Graham. Frankly, I think LZ didn't expected it do cause problems because as Plant acknowledged in the video, they didn't know they would become a supergroup. Plant was also a huge fan of Jansch (pronounced alternately as either yansh or jansh). He used to go to Jansch's performances and has praised him through the years. He sang at tributes to Jansch and performed a couple of Jansch's songs on his newest recording with Allison Kraus.
BTW - the tune White Summer, which Page first began performing while with The Yardbirds is almost a direct copy of Davy Graham's fok-jazz-Middle Eastern fusion of the traditional song She Moved Through The Fair. Although like Black Waterside, it too is a traditional song, Graham's rendition was completely new to the world because he blended stylings and ethnic influences that had never been combined before. It was completely new and unique to the world of music.
It’s amazing to me they were so blatant about it. I mean, they didn’t even bother changing the lyrics.
Why do u care?Led Zeppelin hasn't done anything in 40 years lol
@@henrygriffen40 I imagine people are still putting money in their pockets by buying their re-re-re-releases expecting something different.
Why so defensive, Henry? Facts over feelings, sweetie
I agree, but then again, maybe they felt they could relate to the lyrics too.🙂
Small Faces were an epic band!.. RIP Ronnie!!.. All the great rock legends point to Willie Dixon as an influence of their music..
Strange that Dixon never ever went after The Small Faces, even though they ripped him off far more blatantly.
I guess Dixon didn't think there'd be any money in it, seeing as The Small Faces never made it big.
@Simon Archbold It's more interesting to me that the people who scorch Zep for it are noticeably quiet about Marriott/Lane crediting themselves for You Need Love. And what about Willie Dixon ripping off fellow blues artists because he knew more about publishing than they did? Of course the Zeppelin whining gets more clicks...
@Simon Archbold
What I find ironic is that Zeppelin gave Dixon song writing credit for almost 1/4 of the first Zeppelin album (two whole songs). As far as I can find out he never acknowledged that or thanked them for it. Zeppelin could have, after all, chose to cover any one of numerous black blues artists but instead they covered not one but two of his songs on their debut album and thus he must have made some money off them right from 1969. I wonder if Zep were a bit bummed about that and thought "wow he didn't even give us grateful nod, ok we'll take the next one for free" haha. Who knows??
@@lyndoncmp5751 the riffs were zeps not willies the suit was over lyrics.
You mix Willie Dixon, Robert Johnson, Hank Sr and Jimmy Rogers and you get Rock n Roll. Levon Helm spelled this out in the Last Waltz.
I´m a die hard Zep fan. But you are absolutely right. I would drop down from the list Rock and Roll, because Bonham managed to separate from the original so much. I would add a SECOND! RIP OFF in Stairway! The instrumental part is also stolen from another band. I heard it once in Spotify as their recommendation for me. The played Spirit and then... I could not believe the fast part was a rip off too. So sorry for not giving you the name. I hope I find it some day. A great video, thank you.
This is how I write my songs, take bits and pieces from somewhere else and make it my own.
Rock n Roll is absolutely a homage to Rock n Roll. So it could have taken parts from several places and probably been fine. Almost a drum sample not unlike more modern music. All music has examples of variations on using others work and has at times needed clarification on how to give credit where credit is due. The "stairway " thing is really ridiculous considering it was based around a common chord progression dating back centuries and represented so few measures.
Ok, go to any rock show. Listen to the drummers, most all do the same fills ( more or less ) in the same place. Why? Because it works.
This is the same for chord progressions. Songs on one level are all copies of something done before, but are also original at the time.
God, i love Led Zeppelin, but damn, sneaky
All big bands are, some are just better at hiding it than others. Naturally and normally music is a tradition owned by everyone and freely and gladly given. Sadly now we live in a culture where personal ownership and honour are more important to most people.
Its not sneaky. With that logic johnny B goode and great balls of fire and every song that use 12bar Blues is a ripp off from w.c fields.
Led zeppelin has not stolen anything, if a song has 1 riff that is similiar to some other song or 1 line of lyrics, thats not stealing.
The guitar fret board is so limited that its impossible to come up with something that hasnt been used before.
@@chesneytube1 If someone were to violte YOUR copyrights -- if you owned any -- you'd be whining all the way to court.
Music is not a "tradition owned by everyone" -- that is the rationale of the thief, which soon extends beyond music.
It takes WORK to produce music -- WORK for which one is entitled to profit.
@@freebee8221 Stealing is defined in LAW, not in the minds of the pro-criminal.
@@jnagarya519 no mate, no I wouldn’t. I’ve got better things to do than money grab with my time, such as enjoy music. If you look at the native cultures of this world, they don’t have materialistic greed the same way that this culture does. They view it as a sickness. They view the real wealth as their family, friends and the land. That is what makes people happy. Money and fame do not. ‘Successful’ people in this culture are often depressed to the point of harming others or suicide. This culture truly has a deep sickness.
Lots of Musician getting good exposure playing other peoples songs. But it's some huge big deal because Led Zeppelin was able to get a lot of people into their versions of these songs. Generations of dedicated listeners. Only sucks that couldn't do it like them complain.
3:15 “ covering somebody else’s song is not copyright infringement” Its worth mentioning that if you intend on selling it, you must first reach an agreement with the publisher of said song. You can’t just record a song, sell it and then say “ don’t worry, you are mentioned on the liner notes as composer”.
The original artist and his/her publisher may choose NOT to grant permission to another artist to cover their song if they so choose.
You forgot to include “Boogie With Stu”! This song was a cover of Ritchie Valens “Ooh! My Head”
the only problem with that one is that they gave credit to valens's widow, rather than the record company
@@MonsieurBooyah Ritchie was never married died at 18
@@MonsieurBooyah maybe his mom
When LZ found out that Ritchie's mother got the short end of the stick from Bob Keane (who controlled the rights to Valens' music) they gave her a songwriting credit. Naturally, no good deed goes unpunished, the Valens estate ended up trying to sue the band.
@@MonsieurBooyah Valens' mother, Ritchie died at 17 and wasn't married....
7:33 also "Bron‐Yr‐Aur Stomp" is the same as Jansch "Wagoners Lad" but again, old tune... Davy Grahams DADGAD en general, his "cry me river" has the intro of starway to heaven, and whole lotta janschs tunes on jimmys acoustic guitar...
My understanding is that "Wagoner's Lad" is a traditional, which would technically mean it's not plagiarism. To me, taking a riff or chord progression and writing a whole new song around it (like Zep did with "Bron-y-Aur Stomp" and "Stairway to Heaven" ) is not nearly as bad as lifting a whole melody note for note (like they did with "Dazed and Confused.")
@@AbbeyRoadkill1 but traditional songs didn't had harmony right? The tempo, the style, the way of playing, is so similar... And for me that's ok! I mean folk songs are meant to be played and changed and played again. Dylan has lots of tunes made of old melodies, but with Jimmy is mode like a style "plagiarism", idk, it's a great guitarist, I think is more than a business/money/recognition problem, those things didn't exist in the time of those old melodies, neither multimillionaire musicians!
@@fennarios That *is* true of old folk/blues songs (although not every song that Zep borrowed was an old folk/blues song, a few of them were contemporary songs.) Robert Plant was right when he said that people only accuse you of plagiarism when your record is successful and makes money... but that's the capitalist world we live in. We gotta live with it. I know that if I wrote a song I would want to be credited for it- at least until the copyright right ran out and it became part of the public domain.
@@fennarios "Business/money/recogniztion" existed as a concern at lattest by the 1920s.
That's what gets me about "Led Zeppelin" fans: stunning ignorance of music history, and rationalizing the stealing of others' music, so long as it's "Led Zeppelin" doing it.
@@jnagarya519 i think you misunderstood what I was saying, and calling me an ignorant on music history just because, without knowing me... well, ok, good for you pal
What about "Boogie with Stu" and Richie Valens "Ooh My Head"?
Knowing any of this doesn’t make me like them any the less. To be honest they just helped me to discover masses of other music I might never have found. That said some tunes were a bit close to the bone not to be credited and I know this caused resentment towards them from people I know they actually respected musically.
Did the band use blues staples,? Of course. But to what effect? To form a whole new genre that took the world by Strom. Led Zeppelin is the great foundation stone of heavy metal, that will never change
I've seen several videos about Led Zep's borrowings (ahem). This is the best of them. Kudos.
I’m here because I was just watching a blues concert from 1963 with various artists and some of it sounded just like Zeppelin
I do think that “I should have quit you” and other common sayings shouldn’t be allowed to be sued over. But when the music over it it is just SO similar, 🤷♀️