No Promises to Keep Analysis | All Scenes Breakdown | FF7 Rebirth
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- No Promises to Keep Analysis | All Scenes Breakdown | FF7 Rebirth
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I showcase all NTPK scenes in this video and discuss key details throughout the video.
Every scene has many differences and slight variations, and many scenes are included in all six versions of NTPK.
It's reasonable to conclude that the scenes shown in every single version of NTPK were important to the devs, and they likely wanted the player to see them regardless of which version of NTPK they were to see.
These scenes all include Cloud, Aerith, or both of them.
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What I find interesting is that in the final scene when Aerith is crying and Cloud appears, depending on the character you are dating the theme song is their theme of that specific character, if you are with other characters and the music sounds disjointed because no promises to keep ends with Aerith's theme, when you are with Aerith in this scene her theme song plays as if it completely fits with the scene. while the rest do not.
That's a great point! I remember noticing Barret's played in 3/6, I need to go back and listen to the tracks again now! It makes sense that Aerith's theme syncs the best! Love these details.
@@mlwjrpg ❤️
The "random heart" is Nanaki teasing Cloud about Aerith 🥰🥰
Ha ha I love that!
Thanks so much for this breakdown! The fact that we get SEVERAL close-ups of Cloud looking intensely at Aerith (let's be real he has hearts in his eyes) AND him initiating physical contact with her TWICE (something antis claim he never does and that it's "always" Aerith initiating with him which "clearly" proves he doesn't actually like her) in every version of this is so telling.
But I love what you can glean from the differences as well. I like to see his moments with Nanaki as them being like "look at our girl" especially with the way she's framed between them before the scene switches back to shared territory. And with Yuffie and Cait at separate moments he's like "you will NOT disrupt her performance in any way!". With the second different scene with the "others" he's just stood there gawking at her the whole time, too.
Then with Barret... I feel like his gondola scene really helps contextualize this. Knowing that in just a few minutes Barret is going to be confronting Cloud about "who do you like? Don't waste time about this, tell her BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE" really makes his happy/proud actions during this scene - ESPECIALLY when he forcefully pats Cloud on the back - come across like he's trying to tell Cloud something. Namely, "this song is about you, you lucky idiot! Make a move already!"
There's also the dichotomy in how in Aerith's version of this, Cloud catches the yellow flower petal and clutches it to his chest (to HIS HEART), while later on in the story when Zack gets a yellow petal, he only briefly holds it before letting it go. That's some obvious and god-tier symbolism. Truly Cloud will "never let you/me go" as stated in Hollow and as wished by Aerith here in NPTK, while Zack is ready to let her go and step aside after hearing Marlene's explanation. Beautiful.
Love everything you said here, you've done a great breakdown here yourself as well!
Hey good catch with Barret haha. "She wrote this for you dummy!" I totally missed that!
Flower over his heart! It's sooo in our faces. Good observation with Zack letting the flower go. I think the yellow flowers hold great meaning. Makes me think of remake when Aerith is explaining the whispers..."Follow the yellow flowers, they say." I think the yellow flowers are FATE. Their "spot" is the yellow flowers too in the church 🥰
Y'ALL ARE SO GOOD AT THIS @potatofun3328 @mlwjrpg
So true ! I also noticed that he takes Tifa's hand like a child takes your hand, not a lover. He loves Tifa like the child he was but he has grown. To me the gondola with Tifa is the date that never occured when they were teenagers. It is really sweet but Cloud still isn't fully himself. It is not a proof that he should be with her later. All the dates put together tell a story. Cloud can kiss Tifa after the heartbreaking song of Aerith. Aerith is the one who opens him, and her death closes him (in On the way to a smile, it is pretty obvious).
@@SantalynValferys YOU'RE A GENIUS
Cloud is the one who is the most focused and serious (in a good way) in all the versions. It's clear that he knows how important this moment is for Aerith. And if something is important to her, it becomes the same for him.
Couldn't have said it any better, Cloud is hyper focused during this moment.
One more clue that Aerith is the canon date is that when Aerith finishes singing she makes a few petals fly and one of them falls into Cloud's hand and this only happens if she is your date, in the rest she continues making the petals fly but different things happen, it is only in Aerith's date that this action has narrative continuity.
That's an amazing detail! The narrative continuity is HUGE!
It doesn’t matter who your date is Cloud will always look at Aerith mesmerized by her beauty even before she starts singing so it’s not only about her amazing vocals.
Yeah those moments between them that happen in all variations are speaking volumes!
The Tifa version felt so wrong, like those romance movie tropes where the guy is with the wrong girl and is head over heels in love with the female lead.
Yeah his facial expressions after that hand hold with Tifa tell me everything I need to know.
Yeah like it's cute sure but gosh it feels so wrong when Aerith is pouring her soul into a song that, let's be real, is largely about Cloud and Aerith 😅
It was SUCH an awkward scene...Like she was copied and pasted there.
@@Linda-oh7tfthe song is not about Cloud and Aerith😂😂😂. The devs themselves even said this in an interview. The song is about everyone close to her. No one specific.
@@jarrodhoyt2097 the composer Uematsu himself confirmed NPTK is written for Cloud and Aerith
In a similar way to how Aerith’s role in Rebirth's story diminishes somewhat in the second act, only for the final act of the game to be wholly about Cloud and Aerith and their intertwined destines, Rosa can be played by someone else, but the finale always belongs to Aerith.
Aerith is always Rosa.
Canon Rosa for sure is Aerith
Okay I’m new to all this that’s what I took from it too I got Aerith my first time playing on every single date so I chose Tifa the next playthrough and I got to have dates with both of them because some of the dates with Aerith are not changeable. So basically if you choose Tifa for the date you get to date both girls throughout the game but then Tifa as Rosa just feels WRONG. So I never chose her for that date again. So now I’m thinking this was Aeriths game and I was supposed to spend time with her and date her and in the next game with this big lifestream thing with Tifa everyone is talking about Tifa is gonna get her time to shine.
If we to interpretate Cloud's expression in Tifa's date as somber, my explanation would be is he must be thinking if this song is for Zack, and he is already thinking of asking Tifa if she talked to Aerith (since he remembered that Zack is dead). So Cloud must be very conflicted.
Yeah that's a great point, he's already thinking about that and it rolls into the Gondola discussion.
The expression with Cloud in Tifa’s scene after grabbing her hand was … I wanna uncertainty, like he’s unsure. It was like conflict in his eyes as he looks down for a brief moment…. Now I don’t know the intentions of that scene but it certainly tells a story. As you mentioned, I would think they would have cloud smiling softly instead or some sort of upturn of the lip. I love your Channel and your analysis on the scenes of each date! Looking forward to many more videos!
Also, I had Aerith for my date and it was so cinematic throughout her date 😭 I loved it. All up to the very end.
Non verbal, body language, and facial expressions speak LOUD. There was for a reason for this, and we got the close up shot to see it clearly, I included a zoomed in shot to show it even more.
Appreciate the kind words! I love doing this and have many more vid ideas that are coming down the pipeline.
It's also interesting that he doesn't hold Tifa's hand with interlocking fingers like he does with Aerith.
@@Guy9998 Oh right! That is a good point! He does grab her hand like that multiple times during the date, right? it was never interlock of fingers…
@@RONINPUNKtachi20 Yeah. Even during the first date in Chapter 8 if you have Tifa as your date, they don't interlock fingers when they're about to get on the gondola.
@@Guy9998 In Japanese, two people intertwining their fingers while holding hands is called 恋人つなぎ (koibito tsunagi, lit. “lover's connection”). When characters are drawn in this pose, it can show how close they are. He doesn't have that connection to Tifa.
No way, I thought that look Cloud had during the "know that you'll find me" part was exclusive to Aerith's 😮. He couldn't take his eyes off her.
Red actually drew the heart behind him with his tail. 😄
That part was so cute! Like did he do that for himself or for cloud? 🤔 lol either way it’s super cute!
Loved it haha
@@RONINPUNKtachi20Nanaki is Cloud's wingman. He knows how strongly Cloud and Aerith feel towards each other.
The Barret variation is so peak, I really felt his connection to Aerith in Remake/Rebirth. Nanaki being excited for Aerith is the cutest though
More than that, Red feels comfortable enough to get zoomies and embrace his inner dog.
i consider them all canon but happening in different places,
Yuffie singing and spinning is sending me and make me giggle! It's a gorgeous comparison of all variations - I like the small differences - but must admit, the boys? Always make me chuckle ;-;
But Cloud and Aerith one...Oh boy. Oh boy boy boy, I will die on that hill of him being in awe of her, and her pouring her heart into the whole song about him, about the future . ;-;
YUFFIE IS A TREAT! Haha, they were all very enjoyable and charming.
Isn't it wild how all the scenes that are in all versions include Cloud/Aerith and connections/interactions with them. In EVERY VERSION, I wonder why that is right? he he
Absolutely loved this analysis. To us interpreting, the smallest things are the biggest! Thank you for catching when she says, "...you'll..." and then it shows Cloud's facial expression! Big clues in FF lyrics.
I think Cloud was feeling guilt when he held Tifa's hand knowing he might like Aerith too, or felt bad cuz he knows Aerith loves him, or Zack uncertainties added on top of those things.
I think Red's heart tail ❤ says a lot bout writers' intent.
Loved Vincent's face...if you know his story. Also at the forgotten city, Vincent holds the door open for Cloud & says, "She needs you, go."
Cloud's gunna FIND her, take her HAND and never let her GOOO! 🎵
Yeah the shots and angles were key tie ins to specific verses within the lyrics. This all made me appreciate NTPK much more.
He looks so conflicted when he holds Tifa's hand. I love all the differences between each and yet, the similarities are all Cloud being in awe of Aerith. I got Aerith in both dates, so it's great to see the other choices without having to boot up the game. Great video!
I'll have video coming out soon with all of 6 of them without interruptions or anything.
Yeah all the similar scenes were very telling haha
This basically shows how memorized Cloud was by Aerith in this song. Despite all different versions they were still trying to make this a pure Cloud and Aerith moment.
Him holding the petal to his heart and them looking at each other..pure love moment ❤
The Tifa hand hold at the end in her part, Cloud kinda gives a look like almost regret ? Like it doesn’t feel right cause even when they grabs hands his eyes NEVER leave Aerith.
Yeah in the grand scheme of things Tifa's seems forced and doesn't really make sense due to Cloud and who he is looking at the entire time in awe.
@@mlwjrpg I agree with you on if Cloud was certain and romanticizing with Tifa he would be all smiles and looking at her but he’s not he barely looks at her at all.
Also , I think the little heart with Red could be him saying he’s Team Cloud and Aerith…we already know Barrett is 😂
Literally every FFVII fan knows Aerith's date was the canon date in the OG. I don't understand why would anyone think it would be different in Rebirth.
Delusions of course would make them think different.
because of the under the ship sex scene "WICH IS CANON !" , because the majority of players would pursue the new love interest after aerith died. but if you didnt and just followed the game narrative, all cloud and tifa do is chat about their childhood before falling to exaustion.
At this point in the story Cloud is still in SHAMBLES from being jealous of Zack and having entrusted Tifa at her request to tell Aerith of his demise. Hearing her sing about someone she wishes would find her... his face says it all. In the Tifa date he looks pained and I wholeheartedly believe it's because he is on the rebound since he thinks Aerith still likes Zack. In the Aerith date, the misunderstanding is cleared, in Tifa's date the misunderstanding is deepened, and in the other dates it's never addressed.
Aerith's date makes the most sense, Tifa's date makes Cloud look reaally bad, but very human as someone who settles for someone they don't fully like because they think the person they actually like has someone else in their heart.
It's also worth noting that in every date but Aerith's Tifa looks bad since she begged Cloud to let her tell Aerith, but this isn't revealed to have happened in any date other than Aerith and Tifa's, and it only shows Tifa telling Aerith that Zack and Cloud were friends... nothing more. In Tifa's case she lies and says she hasn't gotten a chance to tell her, which might be true since again, we only saw her tell Aerith that they were friends but not everything else, which could be for self preservation or uncertainty given that she knows his account of events isn't what she remembers. Which ultimately makes her motives suspect and Cloud's actions disingenuous on their date.
While Aerith also technically lies, she did it in a way to convey that the conversation wasn't anything important (the fact that Cloud and Zack were friends) because at that moment she wanted to be with Cloud genuinely and he finally put his walls down and accepted her feelings and made a move himself. Tifa doesn't look bad because she did what she said she would do, and Cloud and Aerith resolved their misunderstanding.
Aerith knew immediately to pivot from that discussion during her date. She redirected it and held onto Cloud, ensuring him that it wasn't important and that it was okay for them to be there together. Cloud needed this, which gave him the courage to embrace her hand. There is zero comparison to how Tifa handled that question lol, I don't even think for a second Aerith lied, but yeah a lot of certain people love to say that we know lol
@@mlwjrpg agreed completely, I said technically because as you said people love to say she did, but the motivations and consequences are vastly different. Ultimately Cloud got the confirmation and the answer he wanted which resolved the conflict. Tifa's did not.
I totally agree with your thoughts on Cloud being unsure with Tifa & whether Aerith still loves Zack. I didn't think of that, thank you!
I think Tifa told her the whole story and would be a good bff moment to save for part 3. Also Tifa & Aerith both know to take what Cloud says with some skepticism. It's a a delicate situation.
Also I like to think Aerith lied to not ruin their date with Zack stuff, but to make Cloud know she wants to be with Cloud & that she truly chose him over Zack, not just cuz Zack's dead. She tells him how different they are and that Cloud's not him'. Annnd..."Right now, I wanna be with you."
I’ll be fair and say that I think Cloud kissed Tifa because he does have some feelings for her, as she’s always been his childhood crush and Rebirth’s arc is about how they get closer as they become real friends. But I also believe that had Cloud not have convinced himself that Aerith still liked Zack, he wouldn’t have kissed her.
@@ariyuril Very true! I didn't think of that. Also I think there's a comfort level with Tifa cuz of history & perhaps a love there but I think Cloud's love for Aerith is more powerful cuz it comes from a place of awe & fear of messing up. He's so nervous around her & she makes him smile. Cloud's emotionally smart. When he's not talking, he's paying attention. He knew that it'd be messed up for Aerith to hear her ex bf is dead from her new bf. He figured out what was right for the situation, is what I interpreted. The loving thing and best thing was what he did by taking her haaaaaand 🎵
I kind of like how in the yuffie and barret ones, cloud seems (at least imo) a little bothered that yuffie was taking away from aerith's moment and that barret was kind of taking him out of the moment.
Aerith's version is definitely my favorite. And one parallel one seen people point out is when the petal floated to cloud, he held onto it and pulled it close to his heart. But later when zack catches a petal of aerith's flowers, he lets it go and drift into the wind
I love that parallel, so good, so intentional to showcase.
BROOOOOO YOU CAUGHT THAT LOOK HE GAVE WHILE HOLDING TIFA'S HAND. OUR BOY CLOUD IS NOT INTO IT. HAHAHAHA
Caught in 4K haha
@@mlwjrpg ha!
Nanaki is basically Cloud's wingman 😂
Nanaki here, Zack later, Cloud has some strong wingmen lol
Aerith’s little grin gets me every time she does it. Fantastic job the animators did with that one. It’s just so endearing
I love the different shots and angles from each version of her grins too. Captures her beauty so well.
Once again the details in these scenes are so amazing! The facial expressions, body language, camera angles.. it's so good 😊 also I just want to point out that at the last scene Aerith's theme is playing if Aerith is your date. Other dates have Tifa's theme, Yuffie's theme or On our way with the boys. But Aerith's theme makes most sense because it is HER moment ---> canon date confirmed? ❤😂
Yeah I forgot to mention that detail! I think Barret's plays in 3/6 too actually.
@mlwjrpg But it's part of Aerith's theme at the end of
" No Promises To Keep "
The others are cool and fun to see upon multiple playthroughs to see more of the characters in the party and how they would react but the fact that aerith’s song plays in every single one (also how she’s the one to find dio before the date, also her being rosa in most of the dates) convinced me that she’s the intended date, like it just makes the most sense with how that whole gold saucer section is so aerith-focused. And that powerful scene of her singing hits the best when it seems like a moment between her and cloud (especially since I think the song is about him but that’s a different discussion)
Thank you so much for this Clerith content ❤ it's such good food for my heart and soul
Glad you're enjoying! We need more Clerith content in the world.
@@mlwjrpg I totally agree. There can't ever be too much Clerith content 😊
Do you think Cloud will reflect on this and other moments from Rebirth in the next game?
Foolish and blind to everything
This time for sure
I'll see the truth hidden inside your tears
Definetly and i think the devs want to give them a closure or a hapoy ending even depending on your choice obviously. She will return in part 3..permanently or not is up to question tho
Fantasic work as usual! I love that even while he was holding hands with Tifa, his eyes never left Aerith ❤
Thank you so much!
Yeah in the grand scheme of things, the Tifa one doesn't make any sense haha.
As a Clerith shipper, I'm happy to watch this video 😭😭😭
The amount of clerith moments in NTPK that is in ALL versions is wonderful.
I think that Aerith here is aware of her fate and is singing about 'until we meet again' and 'know that you'll find me' in future tense because those are her hopes for after everything goes down in the end of the game. Because if not, the only person she lost so far romantically is Zack and I fully agree with you that its about Cloud.
Aerith hasn't remembered her fate yet. That happens later, when she gets a charged white materia back.
Goodness, I thought I was done being emotional with this song but my eyes had to get all teary.
Superb analysis, I only experienced the scene one way in my playthrough and haven't yet replayed the game.. so I really appreciate the breakdown of all the routes the player can take.
Glad you enjoyed it! I'll have a video coming soon with all 6 together normally without me breaking them down haha.
Aerith's version, she gets to spend more time looking at him, and she gets to sneak him a flower petal mid performance. It's just that bit more proactive from her.
Wow. The number of people still in denial regarding the canon ship of this story is baffling. The developers have tried their hardest to make it VERY clear who the protagonist's main girl is. I think anyone who refuses to see this is either-
1. Fanatically biased
2. In denial
3. Doesn't know the plot
4. Or is just straight out dumb.
Or a combination of all of the above haha
Thank you for another awesome video. Love the breakdowns. They put so many subtle clues, and you spot them all out. Look forward to more videos 😊
Glad you like them! Many more are coming! I love finding all these details, because we know they all matter in the grand scheme of things.
You are the best thing in this fandom.
Your words are too kind! I think everyone that is apart of the gandom is the best thing for it, we all do our part!
FACTS
Wait… did you even mention that this sequence borrows many angles shot for shot of “Never Enough” in the film “The Greatest Showman”? Also that the singer for that song and “No Promises to Keep” is the same singer, Loren Allred?
I had never seen that scene before reading your comment and wow you're right. Even the back of the dress is similar. And man, Loren's voice is completely off the charts. It brings tears to your eyes. I'll have to give that movie a watch.
Wow I need to look into that, I actually didn't know about this detail. That's amazing!
@@mlwjrpg Me neither, but it was a detail that fans online pointed out back in March. Fans as in Clerith and Cloti. Lol. The war was hot back then.
Yeah, CTs were so smug about this, because the couple that held hands during the singer's performance were actually married in that story, so you can umagine the ruckus and the arguments...
But, yeah, Loren was chosen to be the singer for Rebirth because Nomura was a fan of TGS and very impressed with her voice ❤
@@Lilly_OneKiss It's funny because Cloud is clearly based on Hugh Jackman's portrayal of P.T Barnum when he's watching Aerith's performance. His reaction to her singing is similar. Even how she looks over at Cloud like the Jenny Lind character does to P.T Barnum in the film, is similar. To be fair, Zack Efron's character reaching for Zendaya's hand is clearly where they got the idea for Cloud and Tifa's part, but during the end credits it shows Cloud and Aerith's date which in my mind, makes Tifa and Cloud's date optional and not canon. The other thing being that the Tifa date makes no sense in the overall narrative of Loveless. One interesting thing though is, Zack Efron and Zendaya briefly interlock fingers. It's funny how they didn't copy that detail with Cloud and Tifa. Also, Zack Efron and Zendaya's characters aren't married in the movie so that part of the Cloti argument is false. I just watched it, and unless I missed a large part of the film, they only become a couple.
I want to comment on your videos more because it’s fantastic content and probably the best FFVII rebirth breakdowns I’ve seen. Barrett exuberates such dad energy and he’s probably my fav character period in the series now after this game.
Thank you so much for your kind words! I love doing these videos and have several more ideas/videos to get together similar to this style. Barret's character in the ReSeries has been top tier, love that man.
@@mlwjrpg I wish how well done he was especially as a Black character in a fantasy work was the norm and not the exception. Dude’s incredibly deep and John Eric Bentley’s performance is easily the best performance in the game in my opinion (you just can’t compete with experience)
So no matter how i play, he'll always remains mesmerized? Got it!
That Cloud will never change ha ha
I heared the persona background music i love persona to , it's like
my 9th fav game
12:14 Barret is a g 😂😂
It's a great track to have playing while discussing I feel.
Any moment of uncertainty with Cloud will always read to me as man who is at war with himself. Scenes where Cloud gets intimate with Tifa, his body acts on it's own irrespective of his expression (the scene after the plate fell and the two of them holding hands in NPTK). It's at odds with the SOLDIER personality experiencing the present as it's happening, and is actively making decisions as it pertains to the current moment, while informed on an muddied view of the past. I suppose things feel awkward with Tifa at times because of their memories are misaligned and the walls they put up due the trauma of those events, while Aerith is someone that is existing in the present who is open enough to take initiative in her relationships. The memories of her are happening in that moment without any uncertainty, free of any kind of baggage of the past (for the most part). One relationship is two people slow breaking down the other's boarders, while the other is one person helping the other come out of their shell. I guess I find the differences interesting.
Great explanation here, love it. The dynamics between Cloud and each girl are completely unique in their own rights.
all of barret lines in this theather scene are foreshadowing
100%
Tbh it is a such a sad story.
The devs made Aerith AS his love interest and than decided she is dying. After that they didn't want Cloud to be without a girlfriend because the ending was so depressing with double meaning, so they created Tifa. Taking into account that in the midgar parachute segment, they wanted all the party members dying except Cloud plus two we chosen in the party.
So basicaly their first idea was Aerith(only love of Cloud) dying and most of the party. That ending would be cold af.
Oh man this was an amazing analysis! I’ve been wondering which scenes were the same and where there was variation so thank you for that!
Cloud’s expressions are the best! Can’t even keep his mouth closed, he’s so in awe of her. 🤭
And I swear he legit forgets he’s on a date until the others remind him of their presence!
Urgh so many thoughts on the different party members. I was totally here for the Aerti moments! I honestly love all the cuts! Especially Yuffie and Barret with the humor! And I wanted to cry when Cloud kneels down to pet Red. That was so sweet. Also not sure what was up with the heart but I’ll take it!
I love Cloti handhold! I thought it was so sweet and moving but Cloud’s face kind of ruins it! I missed it on my first watch through it is agree his face is a look of hesitation, like he felt moved enough to take her hand and then starts questioning his actions. I think this questioning and eventual resolve fits in very well with their GS date, especially with his face right before they kiss.
Also you say CloudTea?!?
Thank you for this video & analysis!!
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed and look forward to more coming!
He is a smiling a little when he hold the hand of tifa.❤
Do you really think so? There was maybe a millimeter change in the ends of his mouth? I guess that counts?
Wow Tifa only stands in for Yuffie to wake up Cid when she is on the stage. They should have even the scene
Yeah Tifa ends up sitting right next to Cid instead of Yuffie.
Aerith loml
From my point of view, this game was mostly about Cloud and Aerith. He is still experiencing a personality conflict caused by Jenova cells. I really think the third game will focus more on Tifa and how important she is to the real Cloud. However, in the end, we won't get any canon ships resolved by the developers.
It's going to be extremely interesting to find out what the devs end up doing.
Lol he is fucking smiling when HE grabs Tifa's hand.
Yes, just like her devoted friend
You sure about that? Might want to rewatch it again and double check.
In defense of the Tifa scene.. think you are down playing what occurred just a tad.
It's true Cloud's body is aimed towards Aerith's direction and (for the most part) he is eyeing her. However when Tifa locks hands, there fingers interlock.. that's a gesture that invokes a deeper connection/bond.
I did like Clouds eye fluttering when Tifa grabbed his hand.
I personally like to believe he is wowed by both women, Tifa and Aerith.
This might be a nod to the players that because Cloud is uncertain maybe we can help him decide in the future. That's at least how I'm feeling when watching the scene again.
It also could be the timid Cloud coming out, we must remember that he isn't a lady's man so all this physical touch even if it's hand holding might suprise him.
Set to set the record straight I prefer Cloud to be with Aerith however that scene with Tifa and Cloud was very good and if I were in that camp, I'd be happy with how it was handled.
Hate to be that person but their fingers don't interlock, he only does that with Aerith-on her date and at the end of the game
@@koosh88215 Thanks for the clarification. I've only seen that scene once so my memory isn't as sharp.
@@ourfamilyaccount it's cool, no prob :)
Another unhinged Aerith simp…, and comment section full of simps thinking a relationship with any character is more important than the actual story as a whole….
...and you leave a comment that will have a positive impact on the video algorithm anyway. Who would have thought?
@@Nat_the_White_Mage couldn’t give a fuck less about a dumbass algorithm 😂😂😂. Nice try
@@jarrodhoyt2097 Oh, another one. How narcissistic of you. Thank you
@@Nat_the_White_Mage you clearly don’t know the meaning of that word😂😂😂. Again, nice try.
@@jarrodhoyt2097 You'd rather be last in a discussion that the longer it goes on, the more it improves the algorithm of a video you don't think should be there. Will you try to change my mind?
Wow I did not know the Aerith shippers where this delusional. Cloud is not in love with anyone at this point.. He might like both Tifa and Aerith but he has a larger connection with tifa due to their past. The way he treats Aerith in the entire game up until this point shows that he finds her somewhat annoying.. multiple times he has said rude things to her. The only time he seems to really care about her is at her death. Also it has already been confirmed that the lyrics to no promises where mistranslated and the song is not about cloud.. it is a farewell song aimed towards ALL of her comrades not just cloud and not even about Zack. People keep on making it seem like Cloud can't take a hint.. the man isn't stupid.. He knows that all the lady's in this game love him, why would he be jealous of Zack who isn't even alive in his mind at that point.
I have a few comments. First, you can know someone for a few days or weeks and still have a deeper bond with them than with someone you've known all your life. Secondly, you can still be jealous even if the person you have feelings for is only thinking about someone else, even theoretically dead. Thirdy, how you perceive Cloud's treatment of Aerith is your subjective feeling, a reflection of how you would treat her. If you can't get the game to do it, no wonder you feel annoyed (you, not Cloud). Besides, Cloud actually would be stupid to think that all the ladies in the game were in love with him, because they aren't.
Did you actually watch the video or did you just come to bring discourse? No where in the video was shipping mentioned nor anything about love?
The text is translated correctly, watch the interview with Uematsu and Allred, watch the scene with the song itself. Nojima can talk any nonsense due to the fact that Cloti fans wish him a painful death again, but the very scene with the song and the moments when the melody of the song plays in the game demonstrate the truth.
He who pointedly comes on to the 'enemy's' video for mockery purposes is more surely delusional than the one simply putting out a video of this we believe.
Tifa brings out the best in Cloud as a man, he opens up to her and doesn't hold back from being a man towards her. He tends to flirt with her and initiates holding her when possible. But their history is fraught with unrequited words and feelings which Sephiroth is using to get to Cloud to distrust her and even try to kill her in the Corel reactor. All this is a lot for Cloud as he fills his hollow heart with rage. Regardless Tifa is the kind of woman his mother wanted him to be with but she goes beyond that by being a melee fighter like him, so even in battle she has a strong bond with Cloud and the deepest relationship with him as a character and as a man and woman.
If Tifa was the girl Cloud's mother was talking about, she would have told him she was specifically referring to her. They definitely knew each other. Instead, she described her as older than him and someone who would guide him when necessary if he was acting unwisely. Tifa isn't like that, but we know who is.
@@Nat_the_White_Mage One can be older in soul not just body, shows how much you know. But who do you mean exactly, Scarlet?
@@errgoseven4680 It's not just about someone more mature, but about an OLDER and more mature person. Funny, but it was more likely to be Scarlet, since Cloud's mother didn't know her either
If Sephiroth wanted to kill Tifa, he would have killed her, but he and we know that she must also help Sephiroth drive Cloud crazy and summon a meteor at the expense of this. Tifa's contribution to the implementation of Sephiroth's plans is difficult to overestimate.
@@errgoseven4680Claudia specifically said in Japanese: 年上 toshiue for ‘older’, literally means older by birth. That eliminates Tifa because she’s literally younger than Cloud. It’s simple: If the girl had been meant to be Tifa, Claudia would’ve said Tifa’s name.