I bought a book about the shroud of Turin when I was 12, I have always been fascinated with image and where it came from, I am now 53 and a Christian and my heart knows that this is genuine. More and more biblical truths are being shown to us in this world, but the shroud of Turin is most definitely our Lord Jesus Christ, He is Risen. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Norms. The Christian excels at invocations of evil as good. Believing in God is like traveling with one foot in fantasyland. The Christian authorizes himself to weigh-in as if earth had gravity-free zones. The Christian becomes a victim of his delusions, proceeding to publicly insult intelligence, suggesting we garble thinking, blurring magic & reality. He does this in the name of goodness. He gains meaning for himself by butchering the context of words. I simply love the news I get in my dystopian nightmare existence. The aggressors have learned what they can get away with from the land of endless wars & too big to fail. I like the green talk in context of 50 years of increasing carbon dioxide & a state which has no plans for any future. I look forward to eating bugs.
Very nice presentation. I have also been fascinated with this subject since childhood. However, I find it curious that upon reading John 20:8 you conclude that St. John the Evangelist was merely intent on pointing out that he was a faster runner than St. Peter. In my opinion, such a reading makes John out to be self-aggrandizing in a rather immature and petty way. I read this verse in a completely different way. Of course, John got to the tomb first as he was younger than Peter. The point behind this detail is that despite John's earlier arrival, he only peered in but refrained from entering the tomb until Peter (the leader of the 12 Apostles) could arrive and enter first. This is just one of many examples of scriptural detail in the New Testament that demonstrate the preeminence of St. Peter over the 12 apostles.
When you're faced with a difficulty in the Bible, if what is written in the Bible does not align with the interpretation you already have in mind. Try as much as possible to prayerfully do more searching to know what is wrong in your interpretation, BUT DO NOT TAMPER WITH THE WORD OF GOD either by REMOVING or ADDING or IGNORING what is written and settled in Heaven forever. You quoted John 20 v... now when you got to verse 7, you did not quote the exact information in that verse. The reason in that verse, the NAPKIN was mentioned as being put SEPERATE from LINEN CLOTHES ( more than ONE) was for the readers NOT to confuse the Napkin as the SECOND burial cloth. Read verse 7 again sir, in my King James version, there are linen CLOTHS ( more than one) placed seperate from the Napkin ( Sudarium of Oviadoe), so, in the Sepulchre, there were NOT TWO burial CLOTHS, but THREE burial CLOTHS. What the Theologians and Biblescholars have so far been analysing and discussing of the SHROUD OF TURIN is not up to 30% of the information we need to know about the Shroud of Turin. I have listened to close 60 video clips on RUclips, all the people that have been discussing the Shroud are hardly reading from the Bible. What am hearing sir, is DATES and what happened during those dates. The dates and their happenings is very alright, but so far, you learned Christians have used them at the expense of Biblical information from the Old and New testaments. The Shroud story in the Bible, when rightly interpreted under the leading of the Holy Spirit, it UNRAVELS some of the Mysteries of the Universe. Nimbe Moses christianswv@gmail.com
The THREE "burial cloths" are indeed accounted for in this presentation. Perhaps you missed it. The first and largest is the shroud itself. The second is the "sudarium" and the third is the roughly 4-inch wide strip that was ripped off and then later sewn onto the top (long) edge of the shroud. The presenter briefly made the case that this strip was originally used to tie around Our Lord's Body after the larger shroud was draped over. (see 5:39-5:53 of the video) So you see, there is no contradiction with the Scriptures here. The "strips" or "cloths" (Greek - oθoνιoν {oth-on’-ee-on}) as recorded in John 20 are indeed mentioned in the plural as you point out, but there is no reason to believe (based on the text) that both pieces or "strips" were of equal size and shape. When you read the Gospels in the original Greek, rather than a 17th-century English translation, you just do not get enough detail to say exactly how big each "cloth" or "strip" was. The way it's described in the presentation is fully consistent with the scriptural description in the original Greek text of John 20.
@@crekow Alright sir, what the Bible says is " the LORD has give the Word, and great was the company of those that publish it" There are certain information that are kept secret, those information will be unravelled according to how events at global stage unfolds. Daniel had already received the promise of the increase of the knowledge word the of GOD on behalf of we Christians of this generation of the Rapture. I have with me over 300 Biblical topics as hand written manuscripts. I humbly say here that, I don't think Biblescholars and their Theological Institutions are discussing 20% of it. The Shroud of Turin is ONE OF THE EIGHT WONDERS OF THE UNIVERSE. Not the 7 wonders of the ancient world not r the 7 wonders of the modern world. This mysterious Cloth called the Shroud of Turin is the SIXTH according to how events concerning them played out starting from far Eternal past before the rebellion of Lucifer. The rebellion of Lucifer which took place in FIVE ASCENDING ORDER is depicted on SALVATOR MUNDI. But for now, I remain in the way the LORD wants to be, when the time comes, I will be linked with the people we can listen to each other, and have a deeper and inclusive discussion as we speedily and frighteningly approach the Rapture.
@@crekow It is ludicrous to think that, after covering the face/head of Jesus with a small piece of cloth, his disciples would have covered his whole body (head included) with a long sheet! What would have been the point of that? You are ignoring ancient Jewish burial custom in which the feet and hands were bound with strips of cloth . Jews wrapped bodies with several strips of cloth, not a single cloth. The main reason was that they interspersed spices with layered, multiple wrappings in order to further preserve the body from decay. A single cloth the size of the Shroud of Turin with spices could not possibly have preserved a dead body as long as multiple cloths with spices could have. Even had the body been wrapped completely, it would have reached only the neck, the head being covered by a separate piece of cloth. If the Turin Shroud were genuine, it should show only the torso, not the head as well! The fact that Italian scientists found a fainter image of a face and hands on the reverse side of the sheet is evidence that it was faked, probably during a trial run, using a camera obscura and photo-sensitive chemicals, to check that the negative of the photographed corpse could be formed. So, even if the "several cloths" mentioned in John 20 HAD included a long shroud, the image of a full body should NOT have been imprinted on it. This was clearly an error by the hoaxer, wanting to create an identifiable image of the crucified Jesus.
I bought a book about the shroud of Turin when I was 12, I have always been fascinated with image and where it came from, I am now 53 and a Christian and my heart knows that this is genuine. More and more biblical truths are being shown to us in this world, but the shroud of Turin is most definitely our Lord Jesus Christ, He is Risen. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Norms.
The Christian excels at invocations of evil as good.
Believing in God is like traveling with one foot in fantasyland.
The Christian authorizes himself to weigh-in as if earth had gravity-free zones.
The Christian becomes a victim of his delusions, proceeding to publicly insult intelligence, suggesting we garble thinking, blurring magic & reality.
He does this in the name of goodness. He gains meaning for himself by butchering the context of words.
I simply love the news I get in my dystopian nightmare existence.
The aggressors have learned what they can get away with from the land of endless wars & too big to fail.
I like the green talk in context of 50 years of increasing carbon dioxide & a state which has no plans for any future.
I look forward to eating bugs.
Great presentation. 👍👍👍
Very nice presentation. I have also been fascinated with this subject since childhood. However, I find it curious that upon reading John 20:8 you conclude that St. John the Evangelist was merely intent on pointing out that he was a faster runner than St. Peter. In my opinion, such a reading makes John out to be self-aggrandizing in a rather immature and petty way. I read this verse in a completely different way. Of course, John got to the tomb first as he was younger than Peter. The point behind this detail is that despite John's earlier arrival, he only peered in but refrained from entering the tomb until Peter (the leader of the 12 Apostles) could arrive and enter first. This is just one of many examples of scriptural detail in the New Testament that demonstrate the preeminence of St. Peter over the 12 apostles.
I agree with your interpretation. My comment was only meant to bring some levity.
When you're faced with a difficulty in the Bible, if what is written in the Bible does not align with the interpretation you already have in mind.
Try as much as possible to prayerfully do more searching to know what is wrong in your interpretation, BUT DO NOT TAMPER WITH THE WORD OF GOD either by REMOVING or ADDING or IGNORING what is written and settled in Heaven forever.
You quoted John 20 v... now when you got to verse 7, you did not quote the exact information in that verse.
The reason in that verse, the NAPKIN was mentioned as being put SEPERATE from LINEN CLOTHES ( more than ONE)
was for the readers NOT to confuse the Napkin as the SECOND burial cloth.
Read verse 7 again sir, in my King James version, there are linen CLOTHS ( more than one) placed seperate from the Napkin ( Sudarium of Oviadoe), so, in the Sepulchre, there were NOT TWO burial CLOTHS, but THREE burial CLOTHS.
What the Theologians and Biblescholars have so far been analysing and discussing of the SHROUD OF TURIN is not up to 30% of the information we need to know about the Shroud of Turin.
I have listened to close 60 video clips on RUclips, all the people that have been discussing the Shroud are hardly reading from the Bible.
What am hearing sir, is DATES and what happened during those dates.
The dates and their happenings is very alright, but so far, you learned Christians have used them at the expense of Biblical information from the Old and New testaments.
The Shroud story in the Bible, when rightly interpreted under the leading of the Holy Spirit, it UNRAVELS some of the Mysteries of the Universe.
Nimbe Moses
christianswv@gmail.com
The THREE "burial cloths" are indeed accounted for in this presentation. Perhaps you missed it. The first and largest is the shroud itself. The second is the "sudarium" and the third is the roughly 4-inch wide strip that was ripped off and then later sewn onto the top (long) edge of the shroud. The presenter briefly made the case that this strip was originally used to tie around Our Lord's Body after the larger shroud was draped over. (see 5:39-5:53 of the video) So you see, there is no contradiction with the Scriptures here. The "strips" or "cloths" (Greek - oθoνιoν {oth-on’-ee-on}) as recorded in John 20 are indeed mentioned in the plural as you point out, but there is no reason to believe (based on the text) that both pieces or "strips" were of equal size and shape. When you read the Gospels in the original Greek, rather than a 17th-century English translation, you just do not get enough detail to say exactly how big each "cloth" or "strip" was. The way it's described in the presentation is fully consistent with the scriptural description in the original Greek text of John 20.
@@crekow Alright sir, what the Bible says is " the LORD has give the Word, and great was the company of those that publish it"
There are certain information that are kept secret, those information will be unravelled according to how events at global stage unfolds.
Daniel had already received the promise of the increase of the knowledge word the of GOD on behalf of we Christians of this generation of the Rapture.
I have with me over 300 Biblical topics as hand written manuscripts. I humbly say here that, I don't think Biblescholars and their Theological Institutions are discussing 20% of it.
The Shroud of Turin is ONE OF THE EIGHT WONDERS OF THE UNIVERSE.
Not the 7 wonders of the ancient world not r the 7 wonders of the modern world.
This mysterious Cloth called the Shroud of Turin is the SIXTH according to how events concerning them played out starting from far Eternal past before the rebellion of Lucifer.
The rebellion of Lucifer which took place in FIVE ASCENDING ORDER is depicted on SALVATOR MUNDI.
But for now, I remain in the way the LORD wants to be, when the time comes, I will be linked with the people we can listen to each other, and have a deeper and inclusive discussion as we speedily and frighteningly approach the Rapture.
@@crekow It is ludicrous to think that, after covering the face/head of Jesus with a small piece of cloth, his disciples would have covered his whole body (head included) with a long sheet! What would have been the point of that? You are ignoring ancient Jewish burial custom in which the feet and hands were bound with strips of cloth . Jews wrapped bodies with several strips of cloth, not a single cloth. The main reason was that they interspersed spices with layered, multiple wrappings in order to further preserve the body from decay. A single cloth the size of the Shroud of Turin with spices could not possibly have preserved a dead body as long as multiple cloths with spices could have. Even had the body been wrapped completely, it would have reached only the neck, the head being covered by a separate piece of cloth. If the Turin Shroud were genuine, it should show only the torso, not the head as well! The fact that Italian scientists found a fainter image of a face and hands on the reverse side of the sheet is evidence that it was faked, probably during a trial run, using a camera obscura and photo-sensitive chemicals, to check that the negative of the photographed corpse could be formed. So, even if the "several cloths" mentioned in John 20 HAD included a long shroud, the image of a full body should NOT have been imprinted on it. This was clearly an error by the hoaxer, wanting to create an identifiable image of the crucified Jesus.