I'd rather pick a heavier or lighter blade in the shop. The weight in the bottom will also not change the speed of the blade itself. Maybe you'll have a bit less vibration with a heavier weight and you could bring the balance point closer to the handle. That might be good for defending, but since this is an offensive blade, I think it's kinda pointless.
Good idea, reminds me of golf club weight systems for drawing and fading. Not sure I'd want to add 9g to the overall weight of my set up on the other hand. Ideally it would be better to have a system of shifting the balance from head to handle without changing the overall weight in a sliding weight method, similar to golf clubs, possibly some kind of weight distribution inside the handle. I have been using cybershape carbon for 2 month and I don't think I will ever go back to an oval shaped blade again.
After watching clips about the cybershape bat, I decuded to make one....raided the wife's chopping board collection as there was one that was the right thickness. Drew the shape, cut the board and handle in one piece, made wooden inserts to finish the handle, glue on a pair of sticky rubbers..job done and there is a nice flex in it as well.....all remains is to be able to play table tennis like these guys!
Great to see more technology is available now. Please continue with your amazing reviews. Will love to see a review soon of the newly announced Butterfly Glayzer rubber. Thanks!
Guys, when you compare the two blades it would help a lot if you’d use the same camera angle and the same strokes. That way it gives a ton more information as to the difference.
The new weight adjusting technology is a great idea. We've all wished we could have a slightly heavier or lighter version of our blade at some stage. But I have a love-hate relationship with TT daily,: love watching your cool videos but hate the way that you keep making me want to test new equipment😂 I definitely want to have a hit one day with the wood cybershape. I found the carbon one too hard and unforgiving for my close-to-the-table counter game.
I like the idea of being able to tweak my weight to my preference 👏🏻 Also like the TTD Rating scoring system to see how you both think it matches up to other blades
Madero's problem is low balls near the net when you have to flip you will be left with less area for the ball but you will only have the option of hitting with the tip of a corner but you will have little margin for error that it hits further back or forward there will be almost no contact area
Nice vid but one question, maybe I remember wrong but wasn't there a blade where you could add and remove weights like 10+ years ago already ? I think you could even move the weights a little bit on some kind of screw.
FINALY!!! The one I've been w8ing for! :D If Stiga in some way read comments here for any reason xD Release one where you have the Wood on one side and the Carbon on the other side ;)
I recently tried out Cybershape Carbon blade with rubbers FH 2mm Tibhar K3, BH 2mmVictas 07 Super sticky coming from my reference set up Viscaria with FH 2mm K3 Tiber K3, BH Tenergy FX 2mm. The Stand out features of the CyberShape blade are 1] the way you can use the Cybershape angles and edges as a visual feedback reference when making a stroke especially backhand and in service. Practically the Cybershape is potentially a great aid to training and improving your technique as it makes you more conscious of where you are aligning the contact point with the stroke.
CWT isn't new, Donic were the first introduce them. The handle was hollow, with a tray that would slide out from the bottom of the handle, containing three slots and a weight, the overall bat weight would remain the same, but you would be able to control the weight distribution. Depending on which slot you use.
I want to see a review about Donic BlueGrip C1 rubber that I currently using This rubber is fantastic especially for the Forehand It's not as tacky as a Dignics 09c during a bounce test but it has a lot of speed
That’s odd, donic have been making pre-made weight adjustable bats for years. Check out the Donic-Schildkroet Waldner 600,700,800, etc. they did this years ago.
I tried to order from Stiga but it seemed that they did not ship to Hong Kong and we got no reply from Stiga Customer Services as well as their IG. Would you kindly help me to order ? I am currently using Carbon Cybershape
As I understood it, the Cybershape was made to increase the sweet spot of the blade. I thought that all carbon fiber blades already expanded that sweet spot, so this expansion would matter with a wood blade. Would you say that this sweet spot was expanded with the wooden and carbon fiber? I may not understand sweet spots, so correct me if I’m wrong.
I don't quite understand why top spin is rated so low relative to other blades. If it's flexible, shouldn't it be able to generate more top spin due to longer dwell time? But in the chart it seems like the less flexible the blade is the higher the top spin rating. Am I not understanding the meaning of top spin here?
Review is awesome as always. Hey dan i was thinking what you do with the blades after the review is done because we all know you play with tbalc so i there any chance I can get a blade. 💕by the way big fan.....
I have a question at Tom Since you're using the Cybershape a lot Does it feel for you very top heavy? I switched from the Timo Boll ALC to the Cybershape and i love the feeling but it's very top heavy for me and I happen to overswing a lot Would be great if you could tell me your opinion
I agree. I have been using the Timo Boll ALC for the last two years and have been trying out the Cybershape. Feels too top heavy/just heavier in general for me. Wanted to try it out but I’ll be going back to my Timo Boll.
It’s supposed to be too heavy. Having more weight at the top allows the player to put more force into the ball when hitting it near the tip of the blade. With a very top heavy blade a player can do some insane spin off the serve when hitting near the top.
I've switched to a penhold grip lately and ordered a blade which, apart from the not optimal handle, turned out to be way to top heavy (in combination with the rubber). Can you recommend the non-carbon version (maybe incl. the cwt technology)?
Look at osp custom blades instead. The work is just out of this world and u can get ut exactly as u like. And the pricing is superb also. I've bought a osp expert II crwi in cpen and it's just magic.
Geek question: are all-wood blades, with greater dwell, better at imparting spin and therefore good for topspins? The chart seems to indicate that all the non-carbon blades are worse for topsins, which isn't necessarily my experience.
That's also what I was wondering. I'm only at advanced level, having played for 5 years now in a team. I still have an all wood All+ blade and would like to have something faster. I play with a lot of spin, try to loop early and surprise with serves. Don't need the fastest blade, but still some control. I was reading lately, that therefor wood is good with longer dwell time, because the ball digs deeper into the blade and get more spin. Maybe an inner layer of carbon for more speed. Outer carbon apparently removes some spin, but gives more speed.
@@leonawroth2516 I've recently switched to the Mima Ito Nittaku carbon blade and it's great for spin and speed, with enough control. The normal wood Acoustic is also amazing. Worth a try!
Problema de Madero son las pelotas bajas cerca de la malla cuando tengas que flipear te vas a quedar con menos área para cualquier la pelota pero solo tendrás la opción de golpear con la punta de una esquina pero tendrás poco margen de error de que se le pega más hacia atrás o hacia adelante no habrá casi área de contacto
I had those weights in my Jan Ove Waldner donic blade for years now. Nothing new there. Just a recycled gimmick, but hey, you gotta sell more stuff somehow...
@@tommaynard8101 Not trying to be an arse to you. It's just a little pet peeve of mine, which I am still trying to eliminate from my own speech. Words have meanings and the better we use them the better our communication will be. It seems that the smart phone age has caused the English language to deteriorate drastically. Words are being used incorrectly on purpose too often (a lot of the time the words are being used to actually mean the opposite of themselves) and it's causing everyone to struggle to communicate with each other effectively, just like what occurs in 1984 by George Orwell. Just ask yourself this: What is a 'vaccine' and why is that word being used erroneously so much? Would that be because that word implies an effectiveness and the thing that it's being wrongly used to describe doesn't actually live up to anything close to that sort of effectiveness? Would it make the most money, if this thing was implied to be effective versus experimental? Hmm... Here's another fantastic set of examples: 'diversity' and 'inclusion'. When those words are being used, the exact opposite is actually happening. And generally, what they mean is "the exclusion of Caucasians". This is why the proper usage of words has become such an important crusade these days. Don't take it personally though, mate.
Speed comes from technique. You could play 2nd Bundesliga level with a Stiga Allround classic or a Grubba All+, much slower blades than this. 95% of players will not benefit from a blade faster than this. The truth is most of the carbon blades sold to amateurs are making them worse players. The carbon/composite blade market should be tiny, reserved only for those top echelon of players and a number of niche hitting styles, but people like to play what pros use and are generally deluded about their abilities.
it's so tough for me to watch Dan play. i just want him so bad to stop with BH useless blocks and flat hits. it literally gives me skin rash. i don't understand what's blocking him. you guys should do rallies BH to BH until he feels comfy. 1 step away, 2 steps away and long range. force yourself Dan!
Hi guys.... "CWT" is NOT a new thing or innovation. Nearly every 'racket' or 'striking implement' type sport I have ever played has used this technology. It is called "Back Weighting" Mostly it is done with lead tape either on the handle or even anywhere around the head to change or 'bias' the weighting and/or speed of follow through or the inertia at impact through the ball to suit your needs. Lead tape is secure, can be changed easily for any weight and comes in normal and high density thickness. It has also been used in the handle with a screw/weight system that moves the weight from the back of the handle to any position within the handle by twisting the screw. Though I have not been a fan of that due to vibrations. You don't mention this so I assume the rare earth magnets are quite strong. Yes? So do you feel vibrations from them?
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What do you think of the new Custom Weight Technology? 🏓
Think other brands should adapt the logic.
@@tabletennisaddict2221 Same !!
It’s not available outside of continental Europe
I'd rather pick a heavier or lighter blade in the shop. The weight in the bottom will also not change the speed of the blade itself. Maybe you'll have a bit less vibration with a heavier weight and you could bring the balance point closer to the handle. That might be good for defending, but since this is an offensive blade, I think it's kinda pointless.
Good idea, reminds me of golf club weight systems for drawing and fading. Not sure I'd want to add 9g to the overall weight of my set up on the other hand. Ideally it would be better to have a system of shifting the balance from head to handle without changing the overall weight in a sliding weight method, similar to golf clubs, possibly some kind of weight distribution inside the handle. I have been using cybershape carbon for 2 month and I don't think I will ever go back to an oval shaped blade again.
After watching clips about the cybershape bat, I decuded to make one....raided the wife's chopping board collection as there was one that was the right thickness. Drew the shape, cut the board and handle in one piece, made wooden inserts to finish the handle, glue on a pair of sticky rubbers..job done and there is a nice flex in it as well.....all remains is to be able to play table tennis like these guys!
what rubbers did you use on the wood blade
I'm a simple man. I see a new TableTennisDaily video, I watch.
Was hoping you’d review this! Would love to see some more allwood blade reviews
What rubbers to use with the cybershape wood?
Great to see more technology is available now. Please continue with your amazing reviews. Will love to see a review soon of the newly announced Butterfly Glayzer rubber. Thanks!
Those were the days, @ 4:50 when you used to compare the blades with different rubbers and it’s been a long time. Great review by the way.
As always very Nice review guys!
Tom has a great backhand technique and a sense of ball!
What rubber did you use with the Cybershape blades?
Guys, when you compare the two blades it would help a lot if you’d use the same camera angle and the same strokes. That way it gives a ton more information as to the difference.
I wish they would review the Nittaku Acoustic
The new weight adjusting technology is a great idea. We've all wished we could have a slightly heavier or lighter version of our blade at some stage. But I have a love-hate relationship with TT daily,: love watching your cool videos but hate the way that you keep making me want to test new equipment😂 I definitely want to have a hit one day with the wood cybershape. I found the carbon one too hard and unforgiving for my close-to-the-table counter game.
I like the idea of being able to tweak my weight to my preference 👏🏻 Also like the TTD Rating scoring system to see how you both think it matches up to other blades
How is the chop performance? I expect with the enhanced "sweet spot" area it would feel similarly good.
Madero's problem is low balls near the net when you have to flip you will be left with less area for the ball but you will only have the option of hitting with the tip of a corner but you will have little margin for error that it hits further back or forward there will be almost no contact area
Wath rubers on the wood version?
I'm thinking of using long pips with this blade contrary to its intended design as an offensive blade.
Good review and interesting blade!
A review of the new Mantra Pro series would be nice aswell, since there is barely any info about them yet.
Nice vid but one question, maybe I remember wrong but wasn't there a blade where you could add and remove weights like 10+ years ago already ? I think you could even move the weights a little bit on some kind of screw.
LKT9010 is just a random example
Weight customization, interesting!
Hi Tom and Dan,
Could you please tell me what rubbers you were using when comparing the Cyber Wood and Carbon. Thanks. Gerard
Sick video keep up the great content
Been waiting for this
FINALY!!! The one I've been w8ing for! :D If Stiga in some way read comments here for any reason xD Release one where you have the Wood on one side and the Carbon on the other side ;)
Victas Quartet would be an interesting review!! Great Vid as always.
I see on the link only Carbon with Custom Weight not Custom Wood Technology blade is inside shop??
I recently tried out Cybershape Carbon blade with rubbers FH 2mm Tibhar K3, BH 2mmVictas 07 Super sticky coming from my reference set up Viscaria with FH 2mm K3 Tiber K3, BH Tenergy FX 2mm. The Stand out features of the CyberShape blade are 1] the way you can use the Cybershape angles and edges as a visual feedback reference when making a stroke especially backhand and in service. Practically the Cybershape is potentially a great aid to training and improving your technique as it makes you more conscious of where you are aligning the contact point with the stroke.
Nice Sharing Thank You so much...
Can you please review the blade synteliac vci off by andro. It's quite new and interesting
CWT isn't new, Donic were the first introduce them. The handle was hollow, with a tray that would slide out from the bottom of the handle, containing three slots and a weight, the overall bat weight would remain the same, but you would be able to control the weight distribution. Depending on which slot you use.
I remember this but the CWT is a better way of doing it imo
I want to see a review about Donic BlueGrip C1 rubber that I currently using
This rubber is fantastic especially for the Forehand
It's not as tacky as a Dignics 09c during a bounce test but it has a lot of speed
Is this one faster or slower than the Stiga Infinity VPS V?
Can you review the joola energon pro c?
Can somebody tell me what kind of wood is the outer layer of the blade and maybe the whole composition, thanks in advance
Can you make a review on the Simon Gauzy line from Andro, I will love to see that🏓
Cant really call these videos reviews anymore, its pure marketing.
I know. Only idiots buy them. They will say a £350 blade is great! Lol
At least it’s not obvious sellout for overpriced butterfly blades. I wish there were channels who’d review more Chinese blades
@@masterflamewing234 they always say the blades they review are good for attackers.
@@masterflamewing234 any recommendations?
I have CWT and it really changed my game.
That’s odd, donic have been making pre-made weight adjustable bats for years. Check out the Donic-Schildkroet Waldner 600,700,800, etc. they did this years ago.
And you can make a review about timo boll zlf and zlc?
Did Truls also test this one in a wind tunnel to see how aerodynamic it is in the air?
Pls tell us about Nittaku Hammond Z2
Long pips review for choppers!
what rubbers are you using on those blades?
Looks like the DNA in the close up shots but sadly they dont say which hardness they used.
Should be a disclaimer that Tom is a Stiga sponsored player
Maybe a review of the Sanwei Fextra 7, a discontinued blade, which is still available on aliexpress because of their high stocks
А Морегард какими DNA платинум играет слева и справа??? Спасибо
I tried to order from Stiga but it seemed that they did not ship to Hong Kong and we got no reply from Stiga Customer Services as well as their IG. Would you kindly help me to order ? I am currently using Carbon Cybershape
As I understood it, the Cybershape was made to increase the sweet spot of the blade. I thought that all carbon fiber blades already expanded that sweet spot, so this expansion would matter with a wood blade.
Would you say that this sweet spot was expanded with the wooden and carbon fiber? I may not understand sweet spots, so correct me if I’m wrong.
I think they need to do a cybershape carbonado series.
I have this blade and its so nice. Using victas v15limber both sides with it. Feels great
What is the composition of this blade?
I don't quite understand why top spin is rated so low relative to other blades. If it's flexible, shouldn't it be able to generate more top spin due to longer dwell time? But in the chart it seems like the less flexible the blade is the higher the top spin rating. Am I not understanding the meaning of top spin here?
thinking the same. this blade with hard rubber should be good. medium for more spin in loops
Review is awesome as always. Hey dan i was thinking what you do with the blades after the review is done because we all know you play with tbalc so i there any chance I can get a blade. 💕by the way big fan.....
Has someone tried without any weight?
I have a question at Tom
Since you're using the Cybershape a lot
Does it feel for you very top heavy?
I switched from the Timo Boll ALC to the Cybershape and i love the feeling but it's very top heavy for me and I happen to overswing a lot
Would be great if you could tell me your opinion
I agree. I have been using the Timo Boll ALC for the last two years and have been trying out the Cybershape. Feels too top heavy/just heavier in general for me. Wanted to try it out but I’ll be going back to my Timo Boll.
It’s supposed to be too heavy. Having more weight at the top allows the player to put more force into the ball when hitting it near the tip of the blade. With a very top heavy blade a player can do some insane spin off the serve when hitting near the top.
Hi when will Fan Zhendong Blade Review?
TTD15 code isnt working?
So it's the slowest of all the blades on that review list but you say that it's still a fast blade. What would be a slow blade?
Oh no :( the sales have ended 😢 is there any other sales coming guys? i love the black color, but I think wood will be better
Great review! The discount code doesn't seem to be working tho. Edit: [SOLVED] I picked the wrong version.
Hi Daniel, it will only work on the CWT versions of the Cybershape blades. Did you try this? TTD15
@@TableTennisDaily Oh, I missed it was for the CWT version (I tried the regular Wood one) Thanks for the info :)
@@danielcollin4012 Pleasure Dan!
Please review Victas v15 extra
I've switched to a penhold grip lately and ordered a blade which, apart from the not optimal handle, turned out to be way to top heavy (in combination with the rubber). Can you recommend the non-carbon version (maybe incl. the cwt technology)?
Look at osp custom blades instead. The work is just out of this world and u can get ut exactly as u like. And the pricing is superb also.
I've bought a osp expert II crwi in cpen and it's just magic.
Geek question: are all-wood blades, with greater dwell, better at imparting spin and therefore good for topspins? The chart seems to indicate that all the non-carbon blades are worse for topsins, which isn't necessarily my experience.
That's also what I was wondering. I'm only at advanced level, having played for 5 years now in a team. I still have an all wood All+ blade and would like to have something faster. I play with a lot of spin, try to loop early and surprise with serves. Don't need the fastest blade, but still some control. I was reading lately, that therefor wood is good with longer dwell time, because the ball digs deeper into the blade and get more spin. Maybe an inner layer of carbon for more speed. Outer carbon apparently removes some spin, but gives more speed.
@@leonawroth2516 I've recently switched to the Mima Ito Nittaku carbon blade and it's great for spin and speed, with enough control. The normal wood Acoustic is also amazing. Worth a try!
love it
Cybershape Clipper (99,90€) or Cybershape Wood (119.90€) please ?
Joola ZQH 90 plizzz 🙏
i think this blade don't generate enough speed and spin
AZX i PRO!!!
how du you explain that much different notation from the carbon ? carbon is far more expensive and given to your note far more bad ?
We're you using stiga dna hard rubbers??
Review or paid promotion?
Go back with the table tennis daily team
Rakza z extra hard review
Problema de Madero son las pelotas bajas cerca de la malla cuando tengas que flipear te vas a quedar con menos área para cualquier la pelota pero solo tendrás la opción de golpear con la punta de una esquina pero tendrás poco margen de error de que se le pega más hacia atrás o hacia adelante no habrá casi área de contacto
I had those weights in my Jan Ove Waldner donic blade for years now. Nothing new there. Just a recycled gimmick, but hey, you gotta sell more stuff somehow...
I feel like this blade is a joke given it's price
🌎🇪🇨🙂👍
Hey, Tom. Something is either unique, or it's not. The root 'uni' indicates that there's only ONE. Therefore, something cannot be "very unique".
Thanks for the lesson! 😅👍
@@tommaynard8101 Not trying to be an arse to you. It's just a little pet peeve of mine, which I am still trying to eliminate from my own speech.
Words have meanings and the better we use them the better our communication will be. It seems that the smart phone age has caused the English language to deteriorate drastically. Words are being used incorrectly on purpose too often (a lot of the time the words are being used to actually mean the opposite of themselves) and it's causing everyone to struggle to communicate with each other effectively, just like what occurs in 1984 by George Orwell.
Just ask yourself this: What is a 'vaccine' and why is that word being used erroneously so much? Would that be because that word implies an effectiveness and the thing that it's being wrongly used to describe doesn't actually live up to anything close to that sort of effectiveness? Would it make the most money, if this thing was implied to be effective versus experimental? Hmm...
Here's another fantastic set of examples: 'diversity' and 'inclusion'. When those words are being used, the exact opposite is actually happening. And generally, what they mean is "the exclusion of Caucasians".
This is why the proper usage of words has become such an important crusade these days. Don't take it personally though, mate.
@@BiscoWho Bisco you are a complete bellend. Look that up in the dictionary.
@@BiscoWho Grandpa this is a table tennis video, not fox news. Take ur meds and get some rest, youll be less cranky tmr
Looks likes no power.. with the plastic ball too slow . Maybe will be ok for beginners
Speed comes from technique. You could play 2nd Bundesliga level with a Stiga Allround classic or a Grubba All+, much slower blades than this. 95% of players will not benefit from a blade faster than this. The truth is most of the carbon blades sold to amateurs are making them worse players. The carbon/composite blade market should be tiny, reserved only for those top echelon of players and a number of niche hitting styles, but people like to play what pros use and are generally deluded about their abilities.
it's so tough for me to watch Dan play. i just want him so bad to stop with BH useless blocks and flat hits. it literally gives me skin rash. i don't understand what's blocking him. you guys should do rallies BH to BH until he feels comfy. 1 step away, 2 steps away and long range. force yourself Dan!
Hi guys.... "CWT" is NOT a new thing or innovation. Nearly every 'racket' or 'striking implement' type sport I have ever played has used this technology. It is called "Back Weighting" Mostly it is done with lead tape either on the handle or even anywhere around the head to change or 'bias' the weighting and/or speed of follow through or the inertia at impact through the ball to suit your needs. Lead tape is secure, can be changed easily for any weight and comes in normal and high density thickness. It has also been used in the handle with a screw/weight system that moves the weight from the back of the handle to any position within the handle by twisting the screw. Though I have not been a fan of that due to vibrations. You don't mention this so I assume the rare earth magnets are quite strong. Yes? So do you feel vibrations from them?
Who buys that kind of blade with a weird shape? Stick to original cheap carbon blades ppl!
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