I adore the story of how Manus got the nickname "The Gorgon." Fulgrim and Manus were together at one point looking over a piece of art for The Emperor to have as a gift. Manus stated that such a piece of art was worthless since it lacked a practical purpose. Fulgrim remarked in return, "Ferrous, you're such a Gorgon." And with that, Ferrous Manus embraced this epithet and thus was forged a friendship.
Love slaanesh and the emperors children. I don't know how you don't get more views, I watch a lot of 40k lore and your 40k stories are by far the best imo. Anyway, thank you Tactica imperialis
3 ways to kill Lucius: Destroy a ship or planet he is on without knowing he is present, so you can't take pleasure in it. 2: Minslwaa dronw, like lesser Tyranid or Necron. 3: Man sets a bomb to kill Lucius, then kills himself before it goes off.
@@the36lessons11 Straight bars man!!! Pure truth... His real "Eternal Armor" is actually called "Plot Armor"... people have taken a liking to his arrogant ass... He's not going anywhere... he may get a "Sabbatical"... but many of us love Lucius, in the worst ways...
But Lucius is an immatured childish boi.....even before becoming traitor......a blind follower of fulgrim......who would do anything for him and....he even killed the loyalist...in istvaan 3 with whom he was sided....initially until when he wanted to prove himself to fulgrim and the other chapter master or commander of the 3rd legion
i'm curious what people think of Fulgrim...because he had SUCH a positive beginning to his story...he was this amazing young man who brought his planet back to life...then his legion...truly a phoenix lord. but IMO the first warning sign is the word often used to describe what he felt about his father...he was "enraptured" by his father. that speaks to me of blind loyalty...such an obsessive mad devotion...a kind that could be exploited...and then of course there is that theory that Fulgrim did have a psychotic flaw in his genes...but we don't know if it was true. i also think the fact he thought perfection was possible is a bit mad...because as we all know perfection is utterly impossible. my grandmother used to say "those who pursue perfection have already failed" what she meant by that was there is no such thing...so perhaps Fulgrim was Primarch doomed from the start...anyway feel free to leave your own opinions.
personally, i feel that fulgrim's story would have been better if he never managed to free himself from the daemon. instead being forced to watch his legion descend into madness and what's being done in his name and with his body, unable to do anything and all alone; nurising the daemon with despair. it would be more tragic, interesting and grimdark...
Whiskeey666 Yeah they did it so it would actually be Fulgrim in the series and not some demon but it's dumb The worst thing a writer can do in my opinion is undo some perfect ending to being a character back. It's never a good idea I mean that fucking ending with Fulgrim being forced to sit and stare, unmoving and unblinking, and forever be made to gaze upon the concert hall that embodies the depths to which his legion had fallen. For him to get one last look at his own possessed and corrupted body before it turned away and left him there to suffer in despair for the rest of time. That shit is beyond perfect. It's like a Greek tragedy on steroids perfect for 40k Then "lol I tricked the demon and fuck Ferrus I have no regrets lololol"
Fulgrim is one of the most tragic stories...and that is why it is so great. this may sound harsh but the only people who hate fulgrim are the pussies who can't appreciate a sentimental story.
@@richardthelionheart8656 From a storytelling perspective, yes, that would be amazing, and an original twist on the idea of a traitor primarch. Unfortunately, that would conflict with the official canon--namely, that Fulgrim turned traitor _and ascended to daemonhood_ (possessed individuals can't do that as far as I know). I wish things had ended there in _Fulgrim_ and then the story of his eventual fall was continued in a future volume...as it stands it feels like the author hit a time crunch and ran out of ideas. =/
@@richardthelionheart8656 You raise a good point but I think that also opens a path for things in the future. You forget about the successful Fulgrim clone Fabius traded to Trazyn for the uncorrupted EC geneseed. Assuming it was the demons doing all along and that Fulgrims soul itself remains uncorrupted but bound to his new body, it would make for an amazing redemption arc. The clone seemingly breaking out of Trazyns collection with a ragtag group of imperials and xenos long thought lost only to wind up on Macragge begging for Rouboutes forgiveness. It brings up the concepts of the prodigal son and redemption through atonement, the idea of striving for perfection by resisting excess or to quote the christinan lords prayer "as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil".
I think that's because they need Fulgrim for the tabletop. I agree, freeing him from the daemon wad anticlimactic af, but in the game he would not be much stronger than a greater daemon
You and Vaults of Terra are the two best 40K channels out there. The fact that you upload regulaly makes you the better channel. I love your suff, keep it up!
I'm an Emperor's Children fanboy, I'm not going to lie. But I hate almost every single EC character, Lucius being the worst, as in the biggest loser in all of waehammer honestly I wish they would just remove him. With that said, Fulgrim is the best Primarch, and Saul Tarvitz is the best of the Emperor's Children.
Lucius can be effective its all about proper usage hes not abbadon and cant whipe units on his own but keep him in a decent melee squad termies is a good option
You might enjoy the Death Eagles space marines, then. Officially they're a Raven Guard successor chapter, but it's rumored they were originally loyalists from the III Legion who either escaped Isstvan III or defected later on. (And by "rumored" I mean it's stated as such in _The Horus Heresy: Book Four,_ not just a fan theory.)
He saved him during the invasion of Isstvan Extremis before the betrayal, to be exact - the injury he sustained is why Garro was on the Eisenstein at all. Given the Traitors were still masquerading as loyal and there were likely plenty of witnesses, it is interesting to note but perhaps not as revealing as it could have been.
Rylenor survived the bombing in the underground bunker and almost 8000 years later was found by the Emperors Children. He faced Fulgrim and almost killed him but instead took about 50 of them with him after he overloaded his power core. .....Fulgrim escaped. But he did get a chance to call Fulgrim on all of his disgrace and announce himself and the last of the loyal Emperors Children and ANCIENT OF RIGHTS!!!!
funny you posted a Video on the Emperor's Children the same day that OMS posted their video on Bile. my Favorite Loyalest from this Legion is Rylanor and Saul Tarvitz. Bile is my favorite Renegade since he is a Dark MoFo.
It's on our Facebook page, so check the links in the description (it's also a pinned tweet on our Twitter and there's a video about it here on the channel if you don't use social media)
I didn't even know you had a facebook page lol you should post in your comments section of your videos that you have a suggestion box and facebook for your ignorant fans like me that don't read the video descriptions.
Well why would it be? Fabius aside, the Blight was never an issue once Fulgrim returned and so for most of the Legion it was a thing of the past. Plus it was an imperfection, so I could see the Legionaries who did know deliberately saying nothing.
Got it. I knew there was a huge issue. I wasn't sure if it was a flaw like the Black Rage (or Red Thirst I forget which) or if it was just an event that happened.
For the Noise Marine viewers, you ought to type awesome on your cogitator while in full screen(Like you weren't already). It will make the timer bar suit your tastes
Not currently, though I have covered the characters like Bile and Lucius in more depth if you want a feel of their warbands' actions. Plus if there are good tales like Clan Raukaan last week I can cover more about the Chapter at large, but covering 10,000 years of history would be rather difficult. I'll bear it in mind, though!
Urgh, those who serve She who thirsts... I never did understand why eldrad believed he could sway fulgrim and couldn't sense the daemon resting in his blade. Given maugetar in the eldar tongue is 'harvester' as the honoured Phoenix lord Maugan ra's weapon carries the same name I wonder if the stone was constructed similarly and was packed full of slaaneshi daemons
There is small hints that they preferred fast attacks, but in general their doctrines ensured they had a well rounded force. So if you want to max out a unit type, go with jetbikes, but make sure they have adequate heavy weapons/air support and the like too.
We do know what happened to Rylanor.... He was killed by Fulgrim while attempting to corrupt him like 1000 years after the heresy. Rylanor detonated a Life Eater Virus Bomb in the attempt to kill Fulgrim during his trap, wounding but not killing Fulgrim because of his daemonic physiology.
I don't believe that information was known when I made this video about 2 years ago, but if it was then I apologise for the error as I have heard of that incident since.
@@TacticaImperialis To be honest, I positively have no idea: I was just posting so that if anyone on here who thought this was interesting would know what finally happened, and not simply accept that it was a mystery. I think its great though that you replied to my comment: I think it shows you care, and I dont think anyone should hold it against you that the info (at least as of now) is incorrect.
Nooope this is WH40K this disgusting display of incompetence leave but 1 choice execution in the Emporers name and the complete purging of all known records of his entire existance wiped from the imperiums record books, nothing personal you understand its just standard procedure and better to be safe than sorry the law is the law what can you do.
Shockingly, I'm in agreement with the Inquisitor here. This series (with the one exception I made for my own character's backstory) sticks entirely to canon, so I have no plans to cover the Angry Marines or other fanmade stuff I'm afraid.
Behold the legion with the worst crime of all, association with Slaanesh. No offense to people that like Emps' Kids, I just don't like Fulgrim or Slaanesh.
I adore the story of how Manus got the nickname "The Gorgon." Fulgrim and Manus were together at one point looking over a piece of art for The Emperor to have as a gift. Manus stated that such a piece of art was worthless since it lacked a practical purpose. Fulgrim remarked in return, "Ferrous, you're such a Gorgon." And with that, Ferrous Manus embraced this epithet and thus was forged a friendship.
Kk99
Love slaanesh and the emperors children. I don't know how you don't get more views, I watch a lot of 40k lore and your 40k stories are by far the best imo. Anyway, thank you Tactica imperialis
So you're saying by announcing you love Slanesh and any associated characters that you're a moron? Duly noted.
@@Pugiron why do you have to be so negative? let the guy enjoy what he wants to.
That eagles crest just makes my armour pop!
3 ways to kill Lucius: Destroy a ship or planet he is on without knowing he is present, so you can't take pleasure in it. 2: Minslwaa dronw, like lesser Tyranid or Necron. 3: Man sets a bomb to kill Lucius, then kills himself before it goes off.
@@the36lessons11 Straight bars man!!! Pure truth... His real "Eternal Armor" is actually called "Plot Armor"... people have taken a liking to his arrogant ass... He's not going anywhere... he may get a "Sabbatical"... but many of us love Lucius, in the worst ways...
But Lucius is an immatured childish boi.....even before becoming traitor......a blind follower of fulgrim......who would do anything for him and....he even killed the loyalist...in istvaan 3 with whom he was sided....initially until when he wanted to prove himself to fulgrim and the other chapter master or commander of the 3rd legion
i'm curious what people think of Fulgrim...because he had SUCH a positive beginning to his story...he was this amazing young man who brought his planet back to life...then his legion...truly a phoenix lord. but IMO the first warning sign is the word often used to describe what he felt about his father...he was "enraptured" by his father. that speaks to me of blind loyalty...such an obsessive mad devotion...a kind that could be exploited...and then of course there is that theory that Fulgrim did have a psychotic flaw in his genes...but we don't know if it was true. i also think the fact he thought perfection was possible is a bit mad...because as we all know perfection is utterly impossible. my grandmother used to say "those who pursue perfection have already failed" what she meant by that was there is no such thing...so perhaps Fulgrim was Primarch doomed from the start...anyway feel free to leave your own opinions.
personally, i feel that fulgrim's story would have been better if he never managed to free himself from the daemon. instead being forced to watch his legion descend into madness and what's being done in his name and with his body, unable to do anything and all alone; nurising the daemon with despair.
it would be more tragic, interesting and grimdark...
Whiskeey666
Yeah they did it so it would actually be Fulgrim in the series and not some demon but it's dumb
The worst thing a writer can do in my opinion is undo some perfect ending to being a character back. It's never a good idea
I mean that fucking ending with Fulgrim being forced to sit and stare, unmoving and unblinking, and forever be made to gaze upon the concert hall that embodies the depths to which his legion had fallen. For him to get one last look at his own possessed and corrupted body before it turned away and left him there to suffer in despair for the rest of time.
That shit is beyond perfect. It's like a Greek tragedy on steroids perfect for 40k
Then
"lol I tricked the demon and fuck Ferrus I have no regrets lololol"
Fulgrim is one of the most tragic stories...and that is why it is so great. this may sound harsh but the only people who hate fulgrim are the pussies who can't appreciate a sentimental story.
@@richardthelionheart8656 From a storytelling perspective, yes, that would be amazing, and an original twist on the idea of a traitor primarch. Unfortunately, that would conflict with the official canon--namely, that Fulgrim turned traitor _and ascended to daemonhood_ (possessed individuals can't do that as far as I know). I wish things had ended there in _Fulgrim_ and then the story of his eventual fall was continued in a future volume...as it stands it feels like the author hit a time crunch and ran out of ideas. =/
@@richardthelionheart8656 You raise a good point but I think that also opens a path for things in the future. You forget about the successful Fulgrim clone Fabius traded to Trazyn for the uncorrupted EC geneseed. Assuming it was the demons doing all along and that Fulgrims soul itself remains uncorrupted but bound to his new body, it would make for an amazing redemption arc. The clone seemingly breaking out of Trazyns collection with a ragtag group of imperials and xenos long thought lost only to wind up on Macragge begging for Rouboutes forgiveness. It brings up the concepts of the prodigal son and redemption through atonement, the idea of striving for perfection by resisting excess or to quote the christinan lords prayer "as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil".
I think that's because they need Fulgrim for the tabletop. I agree, freeing him from the daemon wad anticlimactic af, but in the game he would not be much stronger than a greater daemon
You and Vaults of Terra are the two best 40K channels out there. The fact that you upload regulaly makes you the better channel. I love your suff, keep it up!
Glad you enjoy what we do!
What about Arch Warhammer!?!?!?!
Except Tactica Imperialis goes "in character" as a scholar.
There is no pleasure without pain.
..... and music is my aero plane
Dude, I love your channel
Glad you enjoy what we do!
You sir, are a gifted orator. I enjoy these 40k stories and your narration makes them even better.
Really enjoyed that thanks
I'm an Emperor's Children fanboy, I'm not going to lie. But I hate almost every single EC character, Lucius being the worst, as in the biggest loser in all of waehammer honestly I wish they would just remove him.
With that said, Fulgrim is the best Primarch, and Saul Tarvitz is the best of the Emperor's Children.
Lucius can be effective its all about proper usage hes not abbadon and cant whipe units on his own but keep him in a decent melee squad termies is a good option
"victory is not in who wins...it is in what you die for" - Saul Tarvitz (i raise my fist in respect)
I personally like him.
He is entertaining and he's an asshole.
Imo, he's like tony stark or any of the characters that Leonardo DiCaprio plays.
You might enjoy the Death Eagles space marines, then. Officially they're a Raven Guard successor chapter, but it's rumored they were originally loyalists from the III Legion who either escaped Isstvan III or defected later on. (And by "rumored" I mean it's stated as such in _The Horus Heresy: Book Four,_ not just a fan theory.)
paranoidhawklet Saul Tarviz is a Hero that led the Loyalist Emperors Children Against the Traitors
Itd be interesting if fulgrim repented after killing manus, actually threw his daemon sword away and idk lucius picked it up instead
Nice Video! Did you know that Bile saved the life of Nate Garro in "Flight of the Eisenstein" ? In my mind, it is an interesting piece of information.
He saved him during the invasion of Isstvan Extremis before the betrayal, to be exact - the injury he sustained is why Garro was on the Eisenstein at all. Given the Traitors were still masquerading as loyal and there were likely plenty of witnesses, it is interesting to note but perhaps not as revealing as it could have been.
Excellent as always buddy. Please keep up the good work
another awesome video!
Rylenor survived the bombing in the underground bunker and almost 8000 years later was found by the Emperors Children. He faced Fulgrim and almost killed him but instead took about 50 of them with him after he overloaded his power core.
.....Fulgrim escaped.
But he did get a chance to call Fulgrim on all of his disgrace and announce himself and the last of the loyal Emperors Children and ANCIENT OF RIGHTS!!!!
Noise marines...pfft, sounds like an 80's boyband.
I love the original Citadel miniature of the Noise Marine, think more decadent glam and punk rock then fruity boyband.
THIS QUIET OFFENDS SLAANESH
THINGS WILL GET LOUD NOW!
Hey man....words hurt too ys know.
I do like how you add the travel bits in the vids
funny you posted a Video on the Emperor's Children the same day that OMS posted their video on Bile. my Favorite Loyalest from this Legion is Rylanor and Saul Tarvitz. Bile is my favorite Renegade since he is a Dark MoFo.
OMS sucks balls
Even the most loyal can fall from grace...And all because of some blade that makes you high on ecstasy, talk about shit luck. :P
Emperor should have seen that coming and had a better sword waiting. Any son would betray their father for a sword that gets you high.
excuse me but could you make or have plans of making a video about GSC?
Sigismund, The Emperor's Champion leave it in my content suggestion box, I'll try and cover it sometime in future!
How do I get to your suggestion box?
It's on our Facebook page, so check the links in the description (it's also a pinned tweet on our Twitter and there's a video about it here on the channel if you don't use social media)
I didn't even know you had a facebook page lol you should post in your comments section of your videos that you have a suggestion box and facebook for your ignorant fans like me that don't read the video descriptions.
Wow, I didn't know about the Blight as a persisting thing. It isn't mentioned in the Horus Heresy serious I think.
Well why would it be? Fabius aside, the Blight was never an issue once Fulgrim returned and so for most of the Legion it was a thing of the past. Plus it was an imperfection, so I could see the Legionaries who did know deliberately saying nothing.
Got it. I knew there was a huge issue. I wasn't sure if it was a flaw like the Black Rage (or Red Thirst I forget which) or if it was just an event that happened.
They must be the sneakiest of the legions, because you know.
What about that one legionaire from the Emperor's Children that was a member of the Outcast Dead?
Are you sure that all emperors children are now noise marines?
Rylanor actually is dead. He fought against Fulgrim and actually detonated an unexploded virus bomb killing himself, but Fulgrim was saved by Slannesh
For the Noise Marine viewers, you ought to type awesome on your cogitator while in full screen(Like you weren't already).
It will make the timer bar suit your
tastes
Any plans on doing the chapters and warbands?
Not currently, though I have covered the characters like Bile and Lucius in more depth if you want a feel of their warbands' actions. Plus if there are good tales like Clan Raukaan last week I can cover more about the Chapter at large, but covering 10,000 years of history would be rather difficult. I'll bear it in mind, though!
Tactica Imperialis Nice. Also thanks for the response👌
Rylanor was the GREATEST of the EMPERORS CHILDREN.
Urgh, those who serve She who thirsts... I never did understand why eldrad believed he could sway fulgrim and couldn't sense the daemon resting in his blade.
Given maugetar in the eldar tongue is 'harvester' as the honoured Phoenix lord Maugan ra's weapon carries the same name I wonder if the stone was constructed similarly and was packed full of slaaneshi daemons
was fabius bile always a slaanesh aligned character in 40k? I had his old boxed set with the enhanced marines, and I'm sure he was chaos undivided?
Bile doesn’t even believe in the Chaos gods.
@@Bellephus how u say?.....can't believe this.......
does he not believe in any gods?
@@ramsuryaprasath1381 correct
@@excessiveone9952 does he not elieve in chaos gods?
@Roboute Guilliman oh ...thanks for that info
love this story
Slaaneesh also creeps me out!!!
red scorpions? they are strongly hinted to be emperors children succesors
have heard that the Red Scorpions are also potential descendants from the emperors children due to how high their gene seed purity is.
I hadn't seen that - I'll see what I can find and will maybe touch upon it in a future video if appropriate.
So they specifically don't have any combat preferences? I'm trying to build a 30k army of them, but idk how to build their army
There is small hints that they preferred fast attacks, but in general their doctrines ensured they had a well rounded force. So if you want to max out a unit type, go with jetbikes, but make sure they have adequate heavy weapons/air support and the like too.
We do know what happened to Rylanor.... He was killed by Fulgrim while attempting to corrupt him like 1000 years after the heresy. Rylanor detonated a Life Eater Virus Bomb in the attempt to kill Fulgrim during his trap, wounding but not killing Fulgrim because of his daemonic physiology.
I don't believe that information was known when I made this video about 2 years ago, but if it was then I apologise for the error as I have heard of that incident since.
@@TacticaImperialis To be honest, I positively have no idea: I was just posting so that if anyone on here who thought this was interesting would know what finally happened, and not simply accept that it was a mystery.
I think its great though that you replied to my comment: I think it shows you care, and I dont think anyone should hold it against you that the info (at least as of now) is incorrect.
Nooope this is WH40K this disgusting display of incompetence leave but 1 choice execution in the Emporers name and the complete purging of all known records of his entire existance wiped from the imperiums record books, nothing personal you understand its just standard procedure and better to be safe than sorry the law is the law what can you do.
So were the emperor's children always named as such?
40k Stories- Angry Marines please!!!
Kitten: THIS IS NOT FUCKING CANON!!!
Shockingly, I'm in agreement with the Inquisitor here. This series (with the one exception I made for my own character's backstory) sticks entirely to canon, so I have no plans to cover the Angry Marines or other fanmade stuff I'm afraid.
Oh okay. I understand. Thank you for responding at least!
here we have some of the worst kind of chaos marines the slaneesh kind also that gold and purple looks nice together
At least they’re not as bad as the pretty Marines!!
Loyal Fulgrim lives!!!!!!
Alexis is gonna love this
saul tarvis died with a dreadnought overloading hes core sorry!!
Soul Drinkers also wear purple
That they do! Considering I've covered them recently and had already planned to when I made this, I should have remembered that!
Also the First Demon Primarch Lorgar and even before that 12 members of the Word Barers went to Chaos 150 years before that.
Saul Tarvitz is Nicholas Cage
🔥🎸🔥
Behold the legion with the worst crime of all, association with Slaanesh. No offense to people that like Emps' Kids, I just don't like Fulgrim or Slaanesh.
Alexis is gonna love this
I don't think she likes them
saul tarvis died with a dreadnought overloading hes core sorry!!