How to Grow Beans Year After Year | Perennial Runner Beans
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- How to Grow Beans Year After Year | Perennial Runner Beans. Runner beans are a staple food in our diet. I show you how to grow runner beans.
Watch this next • Perennial Runner Beans... to see my autumn treatment of runner beans in 2018.
Order a signed copy of The Seasoned Gardener at bytherfarm.com/books or without signing at Amazon amzn.to/3g7XfgR (affiliate link)
Subscribe to our newsletter here bit.ly/2qbsdY5
Find Byther Farm merch at byther-farm-merch.creator-spr...
You can support this channel on Patreon at / lizzorab
or
by using an affiliate link when you shop. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.
UK www.amazon.co.uk/shop/lizzora...
USA Amazon Storefront www.amazon.com/shop/lizzorab-...
Chapters
0:00 Introduction
0:56 My favorite bean
1:51 Where to buy Greek Gigantes bean seeds
2:22 How to sow runner beans
2:54 New book - The Seasoned Gardener
3:35 Perennial beans
About Us.
Byther Farm is a small organic homestead, being designed and managed using permaculture practices. We aim for self-sufficiency in fruit and vegetables for increased self reliance and better resilience to the modern world. I recognise that we are unlikely to be truly self sufficient, but do the best we can. I share our home with my loving husband, Mr J and our cat, Monty.
We are a fifty-something couple who live on a smallholding in Carmarthenshire, Wales. We are going green and creating a gentler, cleaner and more healthy life for our family.
Having had a highly successful smallholding in Monmouthshire, we hope to recreate the abundance at our new home. There will be a large organic kitchen garden with no dig gardening raised beds and young food forest in which to grown our fruit and vegetables.
We keep a few sheep and Aylesbury ducks.
Music
'Breathe' by Kafkadiva. www.kafkadiva.com
Other music by www.EpidemicSound.com 
Хобби
Watch this video ruclips.net/video/TOX2wtKqMLM/видео.html to see my autumn treatment of runner beans in 2018. You can pre-order a signed copy of The Seasoned Gardener at bytherfarm.com/books or without signing at Amazon amzn.to/3g7XfgR (affiliate link).
Thank you
Zorab is asuch a cool name! And those giant greek beans look so good - I love garlicky beans with lovage and roasted squash!
So nice to see Mr J involved in the garden. My husband’s involvement in the garden was ‘where do you want the hole and how deep?’ He then got involved with helping turn the compost and now that is his baby and cares for it like a baby. I’m very happy about that.
Oh I grow the Greek beans every year. They are lovely and it was you that directed me to real seeds. I love them, Thankyou. Just ordered a perennial kale after watching one of videos.
So nice of you, I hope you enjoy the kale.
Thanks Liz! About a month ago I found some dry Greek Gigantes Beans at my local farmer's market, and with your previous video in mind I snatched up a pound of them! I can't wait until spring to get them planted. I've been cooking for my diabetic Dad, and beans are what keep his blood sugar numbers steady and low. Potatoes are just about the worst thing for diabetes, so I'm glad to have a tasty potato substitute, as well as simply a different variety of bean - because we eat beans every day we really need to mix things up!
GREAT COUPLE! Oh my word- what a BEAUTIFUL VISTA and countryside! Heavenly!
We love the views from the fields, they are breathtaking all the year round.
My favorite beans are perennial!?!?! Fabulous. Ordered some just now. Thanks Liz.
Absolutely, in temperate climates, like UK, runner beans will grow year after year as long as they haven't been frozen for too long in the soil or haven't sat all winter in waterlogged soil.
What perfect timing.
I ordered Greek Gigante beans to plant after watching another video you posted on them.
Tomorrow our first frost is forecasted and six days early at that. So, I stopped your video and hurried out for a quick harvest of my beans.
I never grew beans before and it is SOOO helpful to pace myself watching your postings. Thank you very much!
Congrats on your new book, Liz.
I am 75 years old and have few funds. Maybe I can find a few extra dollars in the spring. In the meantime... I am tweeting out this link to 90+ countries 🌾🌻🌾
Hi Liz, I only recently found that they come back year after year
Pre-ordered the book, honestly you have helped me immensely this year, I've just returned to veg growing after decdes away
Thank you so much, I know it's quite a long wait until publication, but hopefully you'll think it's worth it 🌼
Thanks, Liz, as ever both interesting and informative.......wish it worked with French climbing bean, my favourite!
Hey Liz, I always grow runnerbeans but last year I also planted a non eat snailbean.. (nice smelling and looking flowers for bees) . In the spring I found a root left in a pot and I hoped it was the snailbean.. oh wonder, it was my runnerbean . I did not now it could come back. Its a firebean. So this fall I am keeping all pots with runnerbeans, cut them down and put the pots in a space in the garden where they will be a bid safer from the weather and see what happens.
Thank you so much for this video. Take care till next time.
congrats on the new book, will buy one after Christmas and fingers crossed I'll be able to read both books then .
Thank you! It's taken a long time to write this one, but I'm really happy with it and hope you'll enjoy them both.
I read your book and must say it is one of the most beautiful and so full of great information! I am a newbie gardener and though I live in a very different climate than you do, I feel I have gained so much knowledge from your channel and your book. Thank you so much for all your efforts, and I'd never heard of this kind of bean before and will definitely see if my seed supplier carries them and if not, where I might be able to find them! I think they'd grow well where I live too. (Southern GA, USA)🌱
Wow Liz! What an incredible view you have 😍
Can't wait to grow mine next year! Thanks for the seeds Liz and congrats on the new book💚 The ducks making an appearance was really lovely too xx
Aw, thank you Tanya! I'm going to miss the ducks wandering around the orchard and food forest, now that they have to been in a netted area.
I just ordered some off of Amazon. I’m gonna try them this year. I’m very excited. Thanks for a wonderful video. The background of your farm is just beautiful.
your new garden is looking great. we have been in a drought since june.
I didn't know that you could do that with runner beans always removed and dug a trench to fill with composting materials and putting the cut down beans back into the trench. Next year I'm building a 6ft x 6ft greenhouse frame I picked up in a B&Q clearance sale cheap £15 and covering it with steel mesh fencing, and creating a greenhouse climbing frame area in my allotment, for things that like to climb, Cucumbers, Luffa, Gherkins, Climbing French Beans, Runner beans etc. Idea is I can walk into it, and everything will be hanging down for me to harvest easily.
That's exactly what I do with squashes and beans, so that they are easy to harvest and take up less space on the ground.
Thank you Liz. This was just the information I needed.
My beans are not white (they're purple and black), but I eat them in the same way you do.
i must try some liz
Following Mr. J's disclaimer I did a quick search..."are runner beans perennial in zone 4"...apparently they're perennial to zone 6, BUT can be hardy to zone 4 with heavy winter mulching. I do believe the end of the 2023 gardening season is going to bring a new experiment to my garden! Now...if I can just find seeds in the US that don't cost a fortune, and then cost four times as much in shipping as the beans themselves!
We live in the equivalent of zone 8 and they are perennial here 🌼
I planted Greek gigantes a couple of years ago, not realizing they were perennial. I cut them down to the ground (well, compost). Last year nothing came up so I planted some bush beans there. (I think the Egyptian walking onions were a bit too close and suppressed the
GGB.) This year in mid-June about a dozen stalks came up out of the blue. Even though I thinned it out by about 2/3 the thing is absolutely massive. Probably 16-18’ tall and 8’ wide, even after topping them twice. Still flowering like mad and when the temps came down a bit last month they’ve been producing beans. With the lower light levels (about 4 hours of direct sun a day at this point) we probably won’t see the really large beans you get but I am very happy, as are the hummingbirds. They prefer the bean flowers over everything else, including the echinacea, comfrey and the feeder.
I’m in zone 8 just west of Seattle so we typically get a lot of grey rainy days. The native soil is poor clay but 3 years of heavy mulching has helped quite a bit. The area this 8” deep bed is in sits in a boggy area so there is a lot of moisture available but this summer has been the hottest driest year since the mid-80s. Yesterday it was 88F with full sun. 😮 Our average first frost is 10/31. Only 2 leaves on this giant plant has turned color which happened this past last week.
Observation is key and I’m trying really hard to just be fascinated and not feel like I have to micro-manage everything. Having smoky air has helped with that quite a bit. 😂 It limits my time to work outside. There’s an up side to everything! 💚
Hi Laura, I think your climate is very similar to ours, wet and overcast! It was lovely to read about your GGB getting so huge (gardening goals).
Thank you, this is very encouraging. I am in California, zone 8b, similar soil, not so moist and soggy, though. I found some Greek Gigantes Beans at my local farmer's market about a month ago, and happily bought a pound, remembering Liz's previous video about these beans. When did you plant the originals (what season, temperature, etc?) Did you wait until June to plant?
Thank you. I have made the mistake of pre soak. Half rotted in days. Plant dry now lol 😆
It feels right to soak them first, but I always end up with a slimy mess if I do 🌱
Amazing info I've got some Greek gigantes beans for next year from real seeds can't wait to get them going. Also I didn't know you could save the roots. Felt like such a real life video maybe you should do more videos together obviously time permitting. Thanks
I hope you'll enjoy the Greek Gigantes runner beans as much as we do! I love creating videos with Mr J, but his work is off-site and so we have limited time to film together.
I’ve grown Greek Gigantes beans for five years now and I love them, they are really hearty and filling in stews and soups or just as a plate veg. Simplest means of a repeat crop that I’ve found is to dry the mature beans for storage but to save a couple of dozen of the best and biggest to replant next May directly into the ground. Germination is usually 95-100% Late season immature beans are still perfectly edible but don’t dry well so these I freeze.
Hi Dave, the only beans that I dry are those I've selected to plant next year because I am dreadful at remembering to soak beans the day before I might need them!
That’s right, forward planning is needed! 😄 Amazing to see them quadruple in size from the soaking though !
I can't overwinter beans in my zone in New England but I'm excited to try the Greek Gigantes beans as we aren't yet self-sufficient in potatoes and we'd love to find a potato substitute for soups and stews. I just pre-ordered your book from Amazon in the US. We appreciate all your great info.
Thank you Linda!
I've heard this mentioned before but never tried it. We had a super hot summer and the beans just wouldn't grow at all until almost September, so the plants are pretty small but I will leave them, or cut them back like you do (don't know if it's necessary). I do wonder how cold it can get before the roots are killed. We can get down to -20 C some winters, and no amount of mulch can really help there but would be intrigued to see how low they can go.
Great tip thanksxx
Hi Liz,
Really enjoying these videos and giving me lots of plans for next season. I'm just up the road from you in the Rhondda and great to have someone who understands Welsh weather.
You mentioned in a previous video about Babington or Perennial Leeks and i like the idea of the perennialoption as well as annuals. . Where would you purchase them from please as I'm struggling to find them available anywhere.
Thanks
Geraint
Hi Geraint, check out www.incrediblevegetables.co.uk/shop/ The stock levels change regularly and so you need to keep an eye for when the Babington leeks are available.
Thank you for your video. enjoyable as always! I have collected this week mine (UK, Oxford) with the pods looking like the ones you collected. After a few days though the beans became grey and I suspect I should have left the pods drying first. How do your gigantes beans look after taking them out of their pods? many thanks!
I take them out of the pods and either space them out on greaseproof paper on a drying rack (the cake cooling rack from the kitchen) or I cook and freeze them for later use. I get them out of the pods as quickly as I can after picking.
I'm wondering if you'd be able to grow some of the varieties Rancho Gordo sells its cool you started those from store bought beans. I wanted to see what Gigantes beans look like because I heard they are similar to the royal Corona bean I wanted to see if they are perennial I'm guessing yes I'm in Hawaii so I wouldn't be surprised but I don't really have the space...I might eventually try having 1 for novelty but as a vegan I got to go through alot of beans
It might be that your temperatures get too hot for these runner beans, but it has to be worth giving them a try!
'slimer beans' 😆
Are these beans like broad bean and is it only the Greek Gigantis that are perennial? I really like runner beans and French beans and I have grown a variety called Lazy Housewife, they are a white bean similar in size to a baked bean also you can eat them young and green. However I’ve heard you speak of Greek Gigantis before and how you can freeze them instead of drying, this appeals to me more as I’m always forgetting to soak the dried beans ready for cooking. Nice to see Mr J getting involved.
These are a runner bean. All runner beans are perennial (if you're weather conditions aren't too cold and the ground isn't waterlogged for weeks on end).
Thank you very much. I will try those Greek beans in my garden. Does your method of leaving the base of the bean in the ground,ready for next year work for broad beans too?
Broad beans are annuals and do not usually over-winter. However, I do have some that I've cut off and left in the growing bed to see if they give a second small crop.
Yes, broad beans are rather different to runner beans etc. They are cold hardy so can be planted in autumn and then will crop fairly early in spring, although temperatures below about -10-15 C will actually kill them. You can keep cutting them back and they will keep growing, often putting out new side shoots (you can eat the tips raw or cooked like spinach), so I think leaving them over winter after pinching them back might work, in fact I'm going to try it as well since I have some that sprouted very late and won't have time to crop now.
Interesting....I don't have those exact beans, but I have Alabama Blackeyed Butterbeans growing now. (Texas)
I will be trying this to see if they will come back from the roots next year. Just as an experiment, because they are a runner bean and after researching, it says overwintering is possible in mild winter climates.
It works with any runner bean if your temperatures don't get too low or the ground isn't frozen for too long.
@@LizZorab normally we only have a handfull of feezes per winter. And our ground has never frozen.
Lucky your Mr J likes to eat it, my Mr Schmitt is not that easy to deal with 😘
Curried bean chutney Liz?😋
Now there's a thought!
Great video as always!
Just wondering though, how many years do you get from a single plant? I accidentally left one in the ground last year that came back this year, but not as productive as it's first year, am I likely to get a third year from it next year or will it be even less productive so not worth it? I'll definitely cut back and leave a few more this year to get an earlier start for next year though.
Hi, I'm on year 5 with my plants - I dug some up and moved them with us to our new home! My plants seem to be more productive each year.
Many thanks for the videos, I always learn something. Is it possible to retain climbing green beans from year to year? Slugs are always a problem here in West Wales - they love young beans and I'm thinking over wintered plants would be a bit woody and less attractive to the slugs. I grow Blue Lake green beans. Thanks.
Hi Marion, I overwintered the runner beans okay, here in Carmarthenshire, but green beans (French beans?) are more tender than runner beans and as far as I know they are annuals, so wouldn't go through to another year - but I'd be happy to be wrong!
@@LizZorab many thanks. I’ll try with a couple and cut the rest off at ground level.
💖🍁💖
Great video Liz. Can you (or anyone else) advise how you think best to cook the Gigantes beans once dried (as I’ve grown a few this year but not used them yet 😉)? I’m guessing I need to soak them overnight and then boil or stew until tender (not sure for how long), but any advice gladly received.
You'll need to soak them overnight and then boil for at least 10 minutes. In reality it seems to take more like 30 minutes to soften them. I don't add salt to the boiling water.
Thanks Liz, appreciate the advice!
for how many years will they keep germinating?
I have been growing these for 23 years and the oldest I have been able to keep the Tuber growing is 7 back in 2008 I have some now that are 5 6 and 7 years . They seem to become less hardy as they get old.
Hi Liz, I grew the other beans that you recommend on a previous video, called White Lady. They are very nice beans. Now I'm wondering how they differ in size to the Greek Gigantis beans?
Hi! The White Lady beans can be eaten as green, sliced beans or left on the plant, they will form nice fat beans that you can pop out of the pods and eat in the same way that we eat the Greek Gigantes. If eaten like this, the white beans from inside the main pod are about half the size of the Greek Gigantes (and not as buttery in taste).
Thanks. I will have a go at the Greek Gigantis next year then. I don't like eating the pods, just the beans. 😃
Are the Greek beans like butter beans when cooked because I can't stand the texture of them and many other dried pulses
After eating them on holiday in Crete I grew gigantes beans for the first time this year and they are fantastic. They are so much more creamy and tasty than butter beans. Bought the seeds from Real Seeds.
Yes I would agree with Diane. Bought mine from Real Seeds, they have a lovely smooth texture.l love butter beans but would put these above them.
I think they are less powdery than butter beans, but of course some of that will depend on how they are cooked.
I planted Greek gigantes and several other pole beans this year. All flowered, but not all produced beans. And I didn’t get any Greek gigantes pods. Has that ever happened to you? Do you know the cause?
Quite often its birds that get at the flowers so they don't pollinate, I had a very bad year for it at the beginning of this year so halfway through the season I added some kitchen foil to the poles and it worked well as a deterrent and had a bumper crop at the end of the year.
Runner and other beans have really struggled with the high temperatures this year. Between the heat and lack of water, the plants just haven't produced many flowers and those that have produced flowers have dropped them because of heat stress. Here we have had plenty of rain so seem to have had better luck with beans. Try again next year and hopefully we won't have any scorcher like this year!
Thank you both, for your advice. I won’t give up.
Do you know of any shorter varieties? I'm looking for something between 6 and 8 feet max. Most varieties I've seen are much taller.
The canes I use are 8 feet tall (but less above ground after pushing them into the soil). The bean plants scramble up to the top and then wind themselves around and back down a bit or grow in circles at the top of the canes - thus they never grow over 8 feet high!
@@LizZorab nice! I may get some seeds then. I'm in the US, so I will probably buy them from Baker Creek. They sell them at local shops around here since they are located in my state.
If you can't find them at Baker Creek, I know that some stores in Missouri sell organic Greek Gigantes beans (for eating) that can be used as seeds.
@@LizZorab nice! Which stores and products would you recommend? I prefer to purchase them with my monthly food allotment as I am disabled and don't tend to have a lot of cash remaining.
Would you be able to send 4 beans please and thank you
What happens on an allotment with many types of beans? Can you keep the seeds for next year? Or keep buying them.
Runner beans tend to cross pollinate, so you would more than likely get a cross of varieties. It might be worth saving a few because you could end up with something truly tasty!
What zone are you in?
Here's the answer and an explanation ruclips.net/video/HAM0n-sNjto/видео.html
@@tammyreyers1119 Genuine question, but why do people in the US so often expect channels outside the US to provide their US hardiness zone and give info for what US hardiness zone each plant will grow in? When I watch an American video I don't expect them to tell me about UK hardiness zones or how a plant will do in a particular UK county. Creators just can't be expected to be experts in the particular climate of every other country in the world, that's what we have Google for, and we can all go to it after watching a video to find specific info for where we live.
@@zoewhite7705 doesn’t hurt to ask. Sorry Zoe but I wasn’t asking you so why do you care if I ask? I didn’t come here to get insulted I had a legitimate question and if you don’t like it it’s none of your concern. Liz was very helpful and such a blessings we should all be more like Liz. It is her channel and prefer her input or someone with answers not insults.
@@LizZorab Thank You
some one had me unscibed from your channel i am back on again writing under my husbands name/good video
We don't want slima beans 🤣