Be a BETTER STUDIO DRUMMER! - 7 Tips
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- Most common things that the best drummers do in the studio
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What’s one thing you could improve upon in the studio??
Honestly, the biggest issue for me was time management. We had 10 hours to track two songs. Drum setup, tuning, mic placement and levels took almost 2 hours, then lunch (which came off our 10 hours). Thank God I knew the songs, was used to the click, and got through em pretty quick. About an hour. Everything went pretty smooth after that and left ample time to focus on the vocals, which are very important. Overall a pretty fun experience but expect the unexpected, be willing to play outside your comfort zone, and don't let the incidentals get you frustrated. We're all working together to make the best sound possible......I love the studio!!
Drums are such an important part of the whole mix. We need to be talking a lot more about them.
I completely agree!
Hit accurate (if it's a rim shot,keep it a rim shot),self mix(is your hi-hat the loudest element of your kit,bad idea),take criticism (could you leave that tom fill out in the first verse). These are the greatest things I've learned in recording and playing live. Great video 👍!
I have been able to work with A LOT of the great drummers in the studio that were playing on other people’s records like Gary Novak, Peter Erskine, Oscar Seaton, Greg Bissonette and many others. They all have great attitudes and are very attentive to what the person who hired them wants. They do not let their egos get in the way. This is a common thread with most of the great studio musicians regardless of instrument.
Bro, this is 3 years old, but absolute gold none the less! You mentioning 1st off that finding the right sound for specific genres is something that I overlook a lot. I'm always set for Rock/pop and leave it at that. It was eye opening for me when I heard that as one of your 1st priorities here though. I am definitely taking note.
Agreed with everything you said
I'm glad you're trying to educate drummers. At least the one's that will bother to take advice. The amount of drummers who seem to love playing a faster tempo than what's required, and who also prefer to 'push' the feel, really makes me appreciate the very few I've met who play absolutely perfect tempo and feel. Then again, I can't drum worth a damn, so who am I to criticise........
To be fair, I can’t play at all either. LOL! But, doesn’t mean we don’t know what is good and what has room for improvement
@@ColtCapperrune I play and engineer myself. While on one hand your not wrong in your suggestions, your also not exactly right either. The problem is what you are suggesting is also safe, dull and boring as hell. You might was well just program the drum machine. If you want cookie cutter, plug in the next blonde country music its fine.I prefer to hear players PLAY!, not play it safe. There can be more that one part in a song that actually does something interesting.
AudioWonderland to that I would say you should at least have a basic understanding of the rules before you choose to break them. If a drummer can’t count to four, chances are he’s not gonna be able to record very well, or even play very well. Be educated. Know how to count. And then if you choose to add swing, or push or pull, or whatever, then awesome.
This is super useful advice as an old drummer but new session drummer guy like me. Thanks for the tips!
Hey Colt! I would love to see a How to Be a Better Studio Guitarist video. Maybe some videos on studio tone and finding your frequency so you sit properly in the studio mix.
yes mate! top tips and great advice. we have always suffered from amazing drummers live being translated into recording. It is almost two totally separate things.
The English language is growing all the time, like other languages. So "Singer-songwritier" can officially be used, just like my "Genesidical," which means - like Genesis, the band. I used that term in the 70s. Very worthwhile video.
Great video.
I play guitar and learning about recording and I have really enjoyed your vids and get a lot out of them keep up the good work and thanks for sharing your expertise.
Thanks for watching!
amen
I've been a drummer my whole life and a couple of years ago I also started to get more in to the production side of music, after finally being able to build my own home studio as I've always wanted to. My producer skills are still on a very amateur level, but interestingly my drumming have become a lot better! I think it all comes down to realising your own weaknesses when trying to fit yourself in to a mix - only to find out you're not able to make it sound good no matter what eq, compressor, gate or reverb you use. The problem is that you're using completely different ears depending on the chair you're in. I don't hear myself the same way from the drum throne in my bands rehearsal room, as I do through the monitors in my home studio. So, in order to become a good studio drummer you need to practice being a studio drummer. Record yourself, listen to it, identify what you need to adjust in order to sound the way you've always heard yourself in your head or thought you sounded. At least that's my conclusion. You're right on point with the bad balance between cymbals and drums, which I think comes down to the fact that when playing with a band, normally you're using hearing protection that rolls off some high end, a loud distorted guitar amplifier shares a lot of frequencies with the cymbals and the snare drum projects straight in your face, which probably makes you think it's louder than it actually is. Yeah so... Long post, but these are things I've thought a lot about!
I noticed your comment and read the whole thing.. appreciate your insight from personal experience. anybody that’s willing to learn can from people who are open to talking about their ups and downs, thanks for the time
@@jdrums95 thank you for your reply! Didn't even remember I had written that comment. However, I still stand by my statements. I think it's very important to listen to recordings of yourself if you want to improve the way you sound.
Hey Colt!
Love watching your videos and listening to your experiences and advice. It comes across so naturally because you lived it!
Well done!
P.S.
Still waiting on my I-scream pedal to show up. It’s been hung up in Vancouver since July 1st... damn virus issues!
Stay safe Brutha!
Really appreciate that! Totally blows you are still waiting for that pedal, however, I believe it’s worth the wait!
Thanks Colt, this is really useful advice. I'm a self-taught drummer and do some of the drumming at my studio and I appreciate any help I can get. (I'm a guitarist) Ha ha. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching! I’m glad it helped!
In the thumbnail, I believe the studio is Addiction Sound Studios in Nashville. Is that so? I can't tell completely because the thumbnail is small on this laptop, but if so, that's the work of Christopher Huston. Brilliant engineer and designer.
Amazing 😉
Thanks for watching, and for being the first comment!
100th like, yay lol. Great advice Colt, thank you very much!
Drum dial and a good ear. I know there are better (more expensive) tuning systems out there, but you can't beat the drum dial. You can put it in a back pack and have with you at all times, not so much with other systems. Also getting good quality heads and knowing the difference between single and double ply (how they affect the sound). Changing heads when they get too worn. and most importantly: know your parts very well before going to the studio so that you don't waste time and money and be nice!, there is nothing worse than being a prima donna that expects everyone to cater to you. Nice takes you way further and you will make life long friends that way.
Can you make a vid from a producer point a view? Like how you approach a session, how you decide what sound you are going for in one song vs another. Thanks for the vids. Appreciate them
Thanks for the suggestion! I have a video documenting producing a song from start to finish. Unfortunately the video was filmed over a month, and has been challenging to edit LOL. It will come out at some point. Thanks for following along!
Thanks for this , great advice ,,, whats yr thoughts on all midi drums coming out eg superior drummer and GGD , do u ever using midi sounds over reals drums,,, i sent midi drums to a mixer engineer,,, he wasnt sure if it was midi or real,,, scary how good sounds r getting
Playing comfortably to a click is crucial.
I wish I could work with a drummer who was too light on the shells. I always get the heavy handed ones.
what is the preferred file format/resolution etc. if you are working remotely with a session drummer and he’s sending over some takes or individual tracks? Curious what an engineers preferences are. Thanks!
Like the vid colt.
How did you feel the first time when a custemer was not happy with your work? Much love from Bosnia.
Thanks so much! Honestly, it was pretty rough… It’s happened more than once over the years, and while I’m better equipped to deal with it now, it never feels good. I actually discussed this in one of my previous videos. You can check it out here. Thanks for watching!
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Oh man! That cymbals one I couldn’t agree with more! I’ve had so many sessions where the bleed from high hats or crash was louder than the drums. Awful!
It’s a rough one man! No doubt..
I've lost count of the number of drummers I'm engineering at live gigs who sound twice as good as soon as they take my advice and hit their cymbals half as hard ... plus the singers in those bands immediately sang better. True story.
Hm... I mean it's so strange for a drummer to tune their cause they don't normally do it, that does don't imply that the oboist has not worked hard to play in tune especially the oboe. However, cool video.
Kenny is the Drums whisperer. Go check him out: ruclips.net/channel/UCo6TJR4giQyL_qcxnWKPE6w
searching tip: "benny greb tuning"
thrash metal or metal (not modern metal) generally is not a good example. you can't compliment vocals in metal. you compliment the theme. to be more precise a drummer playing thrash needs to punctuate hit by hit what's expected from him/her. usually the guy/gal who wrote the song steers the drummer. hence the most important thing in thrash is the riff, the theme. not the vocals. everything is built on the riffs. if smashing the cymbals feeds the groove, you smash the cymbals.
Tip 1, 2 and 3 all amount to the same thing ... musicians who AREN'T ACTUALLY LISTENING to the sound they are making.
Actually, scratch that ... every single one of these tips starts with that same requirement ... listen to the sound you are making, and listen to the effect it has on the feel of the groove, the balance of the sound and the way the other band members respond.
Raise those cymbals up AND don’t hit them so hard