Madge Deepers it depends on the session player, some charge per song, some charge per day, or half-day, some get paid through the union. But generally speaking it usually comes out to around $100-$250 per song
Dude you said “Lester” and I was like theres no way he’s talking about Pillar’s drummer... Crazy! I saw Pillar in 2007 at a summer fest in PA and was obsessed after that. Jealous
He's playing on my single and full record we're all in the middle of producing. SO honored to not only have Lester on my tunes killing it, but to have Colt with the reigns in his hands! Such talented guys.
In today's day and age we do a lot of multi tasking, still music is a collaborative thing. You will specialise on certain things yet you can't do everything by yourself. Session players are important.
Dude, I hired Cameron Fleury for drums on my last album and that was the absolute best thing I could have ever done for this album! He's a double bass beast! So, he was recommended by another person that I was recording guitar for. I didn't know much about him but I looked him up on RUclips and it was clear that he was the right drummer for my style of music. And more than that, it was evident that he's an extremely cool dude. So it was a no brainer to hire him. And I continue to work with him. So on that note (no pun intended...'note'...'music'...ah, the puns are worse when you explain them!!)... he makes it clear on his channel what he's all about. So that's a take-home for all of us musicians - making certain that it's easy to tell what we do, and what type of person you are.
Man I learn a ton here Colt, but honestly I think every time I leave I'm far more confident to just try things I haven't yet or suck at, until I get it right.. and then also you draw a road map of obstacles that we may run into, and potential fixes. Man that's huge, and a good feeling, thank you for that sincerely. Cheers hope all is well to you and your family in this time.
Lester Estelle has been my favorite drummer since the early 2000’s. Big from Pillar is from where I’m from, and I was actually able to meet him early in his career. So glad to see he’s still touring and recording!
Yeah man, seen a lot of Rock/Metal/Hardcore live but when I saw Pillar it really stood out how relaxed he is when he plays so I looked him up when I went home and WHOA!
Never heard of Colt the RUclipsr but vids are packed with great content *subscribed.....THEN sees thumbnail for this and I’m like “looks like Lester!” Was a huge Pillar fan back in the early 2000s....what a surprise to see him here! Was such a killer drummer back then. I’m glad he’s still going strong. Colt...you just got way cooler lol. Keep up the great content!
Great video Colt! I'm a session guitar player myself from Germany and I can only underline everything what Lester and you are saying. BTW. Lester is an awesome player... Thank you for promoting this guy :-)
this is true, and I've learned this the hard why (by hiring some talented friends/live drummers). Sometimes I had to totally re-record. Other times, spent hours comping and editing. Session drummers from here on out!
Cool video. Another point to mention is that the producer that recommends the session players is probably used to working with them which also will save time and money because they will already have a good working relationship. It will also make things a lot easier for the producer if he’s the one who is mixing the songs because he’s used to recording the players. Cheers
Greetings, this is another amazing video!!! For those that have never reached out to this guy he is amazing! I love the fact that he gave the DRUMMER a shoutout!
I play in a band that lost a great drummer and violinist bc the leader used session guys instead of the live band (which was great and would have made a great recording). Those two guys quit shortly after and both told me years later it was because they didn’t get to play on the record after spending time helping to develop all the parts
thebr0wnhornet so that is an obvious example of when not to hire a session player. If the band was involved in composing the parts, it’s definitely more common to use the band. That said, the sort of thing happens a lot where the players right filler parts as placeholders until the song is produced out, without realizing they are filler parts. It’s a breakdown in communication between the artist and their players.
Awesome video as always :) Thank you so much for your content! Can you do a video on how to deal with clients which aren't capable to play tight enough but don't want session musicians to play on their record?
for singer/songwriter definitely, especially in cookie-cutter genres. Session players often nail it quickly because they've played the exact same song 20 times that week- Country music is based on that. It's why we have the "empty cowboy hat" artists. Though a true session player can play just about anything for sure. My experience as a producer is the more complicated the song(genre) usually the better the players in the band, and the more territorial the musicians are, so they're usually the best call for playing on the session. Those types of releases aren't assembly-line products so there's a personal connection between the music and the artist. Without a doubt though getting the right session player is absolutely paramount in making it work- a session player with a producer mentality/ego can kill a project. But this is all based on my experiences, cheers!
Where would I start looking if I wanted to do some session work ? I've been singing since the 6th grade . I'm in 8th now but I look 18! No I'm kidding I've been singing about 38 years and I get more passionate about it every day. I can't go without it . I honestly have never heard anyone as versatile as myself . I can copy styles almost exact . I cover everything from Micheal Jackson to Geoff Tate or Jon Anderson, Steve Walsh, Dennis D'young flawless . Even Russell Hitchcock from Air Supply. He's great. I never learned how to read . I never needed it really .I have a couple albums out that sold well . Our first album is Great! I would say it even if I wasn't on it. One of Yngwies Malmsteens singers produced it . TALL TALES is the album by CRUCIBLE. Sounds heavy but's not. I truly think you'll appreciate it. I have a strong developed head voice also . I can sing high with ease. My head voice is like a Stevie Wonder type. If you get a sec throw me a link . I'm way better at the singing than recording . But with my new set up using LUNA my vocal tracks are stepping up quite a bit in quality already. Thanks for the info and for all your time helping all us less production savvy cats come a little further a lot quicker.
Can anyone tell me y every drum kit I've seen in a recording studio on RUclips only ever has one tom n one bass tom? Doesnt anyone like big rolls on drums anymore?
How do these smaller indie artists afford to hire session musicians though? I know some bigger artists like Kelly Clarkson have more than enough money to hire a band, but what about guys like Noah Guthrie? I'm also interested in being a session guitarist.
As a producer / Home studio owner, I am always building my list of talented musicians, there are plenty of instrument players that are amazing near you. Build those connections and make yourself more valuable.
WJ Cutright Nope! Lester can control his control room rig all from the drums....of course having someone at the hardware to make any tweaks on processing is always handy.
Kevin quite the opposite, this is literally the perfect time to hire a session player. Because they all will fly tracks to you. Literally the best time to hire a session player ever.
Hope this helped someone!!
What are the ballpark costs for hiring a session player for say, one track?
Madge Deepers it depends on the session player, some charge per song, some charge per day, or half-day, some get paid through the union. But generally speaking it usually comes out to around $100-$250 per song
i guess it is kinda off topic but does anyone know a good site to watch new tv shows online?
@Fabian Tucker flixportal :P
@Krew Cesar thanks, I signed up and it seems to work :) I appreciate it !
Never heard of him... visited his website - he’s dope! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yes, hire Lester Estelle. He is amazing.
Dude you said “Lester” and I was like theres no way he’s talking about Pillar’s drummer... Crazy! I saw Pillar in 2007 at a summer fest in PA and was obsessed after that. Jealous
I just saw the thumbnail and immediately I'm like, "Is that Lester Estelle??" Sure enough! His brother is a beast, too!
He's playing on my single and full record we're all in the middle of producing. SO honored to not only have Lester on my tunes killing it, but to have Colt with the reigns in his hands! Such talented guys.
April Cushman appreciate you!!
@@ColtCapperrune duh!
Man, he has a killer spot! Great room, great rig, amazing musician.
Shred Shed Studios no doubt!! All around awesomeness!
In today's day and age we do a lot of multi tasking, still music is a collaborative thing. You will specialise on certain things yet you can't do everything by yourself. Session players are important.
Lester is such a beast. I love his work with Pillar
Dude, I hired Cameron Fleury for drums on my last album and that was the absolute best thing I could have ever done for this album! He's a double bass beast! So, he was recommended by another person that I was recording guitar for. I didn't know much about him but I looked him up on RUclips and it was clear that he was the right drummer for my style of music. And more than that, it was evident that he's an extremely cool dude. So it was a no brainer to hire him. And I continue to work with him.
So on that note (no pun intended...'note'...'music'...ah, the puns are worse when you explain them!!)... he makes it clear on his channel what he's all about. So that's a take-home for all of us musicians - making certain that it's easy to tell what we do, and what type of person you are.
Man I learn a ton here Colt, but honestly I think every time I leave I'm far more confident to just try things I haven't yet or suck at, until I get it right.. and then also you draw a road map of obstacles that we may run into, and potential fixes. Man that's huge, and a good feeling, thank you for that sincerely. Cheers hope all is well to you and your family in this time.
Lester Estelle has been my favorite drummer since the early 2000’s. Big from Pillar is from where I’m from, and I was actually able to meet him early in his career.
So glad to see he’s still touring and recording!
Yeah man, seen a lot of Rock/Metal/Hardcore live but when I saw Pillar it really stood out how relaxed he is when he plays so I looked him up when I went home and WHOA!
Underated drummer. He's such a beast.
I loved Lester in Pillar. I use to listen to that band a lot in high school!!
I hired a session player... and it worked out wonderfully... Thanks for this advice. UK based drummer. Has been giving me awesome tracks.
Gotta love Lester… can’t wait for the new Pillar album.
Never heard of Colt the RUclipsr but vids are packed with great content *subscribed.....THEN
sees thumbnail for this and I’m like “looks like Lester!” Was a huge Pillar fan back in the early 2000s....what a surprise to see him here! Was such a killer drummer back then. I’m glad he’s still going strong. Colt...you just got way cooler lol. Keep up the great content!
Wait a minute. Fairchild ...?!? He's got a Fairchild? A session cat with a Fairchild. A pro's pro.
Woooh... Lester must come with a cost.. But we'll worth it
Great video Colt! I'm a session guitar player myself from Germany and I can only underline everything what Lester and you are saying. BTW. Lester is an awesome player... Thank you for promoting this guy :-)
Man Colt seems like a good dude. I respect you for taking your time to do this video.
Pradigy Musicman Really appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
Lester needs to be on the cover of Modern Drummer. He is definitely amazing!
Lester is an absolute beast. Nice space too
Wow!!!! Great video with one of the best drummer! Amazing bro
this is true, and I've learned this the hard why (by hiring some talented friends/live drummers). Sometimes I had to totally re-record. Other times, spent hours comping and editing. Session drummers from here on out!
This is a great video! You were on point the entire time. Great info great attitude.
Well said! Good vid bruh!👌🏾🔥🔥
Cool video. Another point to mention is that the producer that recommends the session players is probably used to working with them which also will save time and money because they will already have a good working relationship. It will also make things a lot easier for the producer if he’s the one who is mixing the songs because he’s used to recording the players. Cheers
Another great video man. Thanks a million for all the advice.
Play what's right for the song! Bang on Colt! Nuff said!
Hell yeah, been waiting for this!
Great video and info. Very cool to see Lester's setup!
stereolaunch Thanks for watching! I got another video in the works that’s going over all the details of his set up. Gear, microphones, etc.
@@ColtCapperrune Nice! Looking forward to that one!
Greetings, this is another amazing video!!! For those that have never reached out to this guy he is amazing! I love the fact that he gave the DRUMMER a shoutout!
Love it! Remind me how a good session player save you so much time and effort ! thx!
Really great discussion, thanks for the insight!
And still another cool video! 😎
thanks for the advice Colt!!!
I play in a band that lost a great drummer and violinist bc the leader used session guys instead of the live band (which was great and would have made a great recording). Those two guys quit shortly after and both told me years later it was because they didn’t get to play on the record after spending time helping to develop all the parts
thebr0wnhornet so that is an obvious example of when not to hire a session player. If the band was involved in composing the parts, it’s definitely more common to use the band. That said, the sort of thing happens a lot where the players right filler parts as placeholders until the song is produced out, without realizing they are filler parts. It’s a breakdown in communication between the artist and their players.
Awesome video as always :) Thank you so much for your content!
Can you do a video on how to deal with clients which aren't capable to play tight enough but don't want session musicians to play on their record?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and creating these very useful informative videos! Kind regards!
...I would have loved to seen / heard some of the actual session go down... 😕 🥁
kjc9 trader Unfortunately I rarely can post actual music I’m working on before it’s released
@@ColtCapperrune : Of course - didn't think of that... as a drummer myself - it would have been cool to see him work!
Awesome as always my man
Lester is amazing!
Lester, hell yeah!!!! Only 3;40 into it, i can tell, you legit.
great stuff here
If it’s Lester, the answer is always DUH!
for singer/songwriter definitely, especially in cookie-cutter genres. Session players often nail it quickly because they've played the exact same song 20 times that week- Country music is based on that. It's why we have the "empty cowboy hat" artists. Though a true session player can play just about anything for sure.
My experience as a producer is the more complicated the song(genre) usually the better the players in the band, and the more territorial the musicians are, so they're usually the best call for playing on the session. Those types of releases aren't assembly-line products so there's a personal connection between the music and the artist.
Without a doubt though getting the right session player is absolutely paramount in making it work- a session player with a producer mentality/ego can kill a project.
But this is all based on my experiences, cheers!
Definitely a helpful video.
25 minutes to record 3 songs?! Man that's something
I really want his studio desk, but I don't think they make them anymore, I can't even remember what they're called.
This helped me. I am going to start using session players for my original material. Thanks for this segment.
So glad it helped! Thanks for watching!
Lester 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks! Any samples of projects with Lester on it? Cheers!
Half of the examples on my website have Lester on them. You can find a link to my website in the description of this video. Thanks!
Where would I start looking if I wanted to do some session work ? I've been singing since the 6th grade . I'm in 8th now but I look 18! No I'm kidding I've been singing about 38 years and I get more passionate about it every day. I can't go without it . I honestly have never heard anyone as versatile as myself . I can copy styles almost exact . I cover everything from Micheal Jackson to Geoff Tate or Jon Anderson, Steve Walsh, Dennis D'young flawless . Even Russell Hitchcock from Air Supply. He's great. I never learned how to read . I never needed it really .I have a couple albums out that sold well . Our first album is Great! I would say it even if I wasn't on it. One of Yngwies Malmsteens singers produced it . TALL TALES is the album by CRUCIBLE. Sounds heavy but's not. I truly think you'll appreciate it. I have a strong developed head voice also . I can sing high with ease. My head voice is like a Stevie Wonder type. If you get a sec throw me a link . I'm way better at the singing than recording . But with my new set up using LUNA my vocal tracks are stepping up quite a bit in quality already. Thanks for the info and for all your time helping all us less production savvy cats come a little further a lot quicker.
Did I miss something? These monitors changed at the 3:00 minute mark in the timeline and the 3:54 time? Hey,....its 4/20....I dunno.
kerrytheman I was wondering if anyone was going to catch it LOL… This video was actually filmed during two separate sessions weeks apart.
Colt Capperrune 12:16 25 minutes session 😂 so you lied? 🤥
my guy!
Lester!!
Lester’s arms are toothpicks though so...🤷🏼♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can anyone tell me y every drum kit I've seen in a recording studio on RUclips only ever has one tom n one bass tom? Doesnt anyone like big rolls on drums anymore?
Did those focals just magically degenerate into KRKs?
Yeah he's NASTY!
Hey Colt.......you didn't mention BLUEGRASS.....
come on now!!
David Grosshans you clearly didn’t watch the whole video, cause I specifically talked about bluegrass 😜😜😜
How do these smaller indie artists afford to hire session musicians though? I know some bigger artists like Kelly Clarkson have more than enough money to hire a band, but what about guys like Noah Guthrie? I'm also interested in being a session guitarist.
As a producer / Home studio owner, I am always building my list of talented musicians, there are plenty of instrument players that are amazing near you. Build those connections and make yourself more valuable.
25 minutes for 3 songs?! 😳🤯
Nice to meet ya yesterday at Costco Colt.
James
Hey man!!
does lester still play with pillar??
Does Lester (and like recording setups ) have to have a second person to do a pseudo engineer role? To press record and stop (?)
WJ Cutright Nope! Lester can control his control room rig all from the drums....of course having someone at the hardware to make any tweaks on processing is always handy.
KANSAS CITY!!!!
Don't we all need a whaganggahh here and there? :) (13:06)
Should you hire a session musician? Probably not during a pandemic
Kevin quite the opposite, this is literally the perfect time to hire a session player. Because they all will fly tracks to you. Literally the best time to hire a session player ever.
@@ColtCapperrune yeah that's all well and good, i just mean not like going to their house like in the video.
Good way to pissoff your band!