Water-Based Stain
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2009
- A ten minute tutorial on using waterbased wood stain and urethane to achieve a flawless finish. Sanding, application and a unique approach to buffing are covered. To learn more from Steve, visit www.baileylineroad.com.
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This was the greatest lesson out there on staining. It is September, 2021, and would like to know if you can do an update on this technique just in case you have more good advice. Thank you !
yo, that orbit sander pro tip is next level. Thanks!
Great job Sir. Thanks for the video, I'm building a loft bed for my grandson and he chose the same color stain you used in the video. Your instructions are professional and effective.
My regards from Texas!
Never heard about using the 3M rubbing pad like that before - GREAT idea and from the looks of it - it REALLY works and makes the finish super smooth.
Thank you so much! This video was perfect for me & my cabinets;)
Will be trying your method on my children desk
awesome blue
I went over a satin sealant with a scotch brite pad with lemon oil... and found this out, but accident... how to remove the white bubbling... I thought I had done everything to prevent the bubbling, but non the less still had some.... but I used fabric dye, mixed, to create a carribean blue teal... to stain a bookshelf for a lake house shabby chic look.....sealed with a satin, water base, but was looking at videos as we prepare to work on the dining table project, we are building a 12 seating farmhouse, lake house style table.... I am thinking yes the pad makes perfect sense, but next time I will add the sander instead of my own elbow power... lol... That is awesome, thank you for sharing that little hack.
Thanks Kevin Pollak.
Looks good , Thanx. Can you tell me the exact 3m product your using as they have thousands of similar products. Can I use this product on regular oil based poly? I like satin finishes. Would I just use the fine grade? or ultra fine? What kind of brush are you using for the stain ? Do I use the same for the oil poly? Can I do all the buffing and sanding by hand? Thanks
Thanks.
I followed all your instructions and bought the 3m pads and had drastically different results, glad I stopped when I did, had to recoat the whole side of an 80" board
thats cuz he forgot to talk about the white pads which is shown for only a split second. scuffing / scouring / hand pads (each manufacturer use a different name but they're literally the same thing you use in the dishes) have different grades such as green or blue which is very coarse (typical dishes ones) gray / white which are your fine and ultra fine. HOWEVER if you read the manufacturers description of them you'll see that the grays are compared to 00 steel wool and whites 0000 steel wool. have you ever tried steel wool on a finish? (typically oil) they DO NOT polish, they will even out the finish thats all scuffed from the sanding BUT also kill the gloss A LOT. the white pads will leave you with satin but the grays its between mate and satin at best. you can clearly see in the vid that the finish he ends up with is clearly satin, not gloss or even semi-gloss. you can achieve the same effect using rubbing compound for cars, the abrasive in it will leave a finish similar to 0000 steel wool / white pads. if you want your gloss back you do exactly what manufacturers say after using rubbing compound.. you go to polishing compound, yes the car stuff still. you can do 0000 steel wool / white pad to polishing compound ofc. you know whats even easier tho if you want semi-gloss or satin? start with gloss and after the final coat instead of sanding go straight to 0000 steel wool and use it gently by hand, it will denib and only kill the gloss a bit, the more you use it the lower the gloss, keep going until you got the finish you want. if you want gloss tho you need that polishing compound, some are better than others but generally you can maintain the original gloss with say turtle wax's polishing compound used by hand. if you wanted ultra high gloss you'd need an electric buffer / polisher and better brand.
Would love to see the result with burgundy color stain.
Well, after many tries and years of research, I found the way to get pine looking like a hardwood when finished. I first brush with uncolored Sherwin Williams (!) non-colored stain and let it dry. Then apply any lovely dark color of SW stain and wait until it starts drying (~30min). Then slightly wipe off excessive stain to reach wanted shade while preserving thick and even coloration. It will not be completely even but tapping the wood with sponge wrapped with cotton sheet after all makes absolutely even tone as good as those achieved in a factory conditions. No blotches btw from porous thanks to 1st layer of non-color stain while grain stays clear. Than couple of varnish layers and you are in havens. Everything is oil based of course. SW stain is thick and really different from Minwax which I have thrown away in dozens of cans since realized the properties of SW stains.
can I mix water in stain to coloring the crafts ?? it will b mix easily??
Hey there how many coats of water based stain should I apply on my stsirs and how many coats of varnish ?
How long before I have to sand stain if I have to do 2 coats
How long before I sand varnish
Steve
If you can please tell us which exact 3m buffing pad you used that would be great
thank you.
Sure, I'm happy to. I use a "Fine" 3M pad (its grey in colour) to create a satin finish (almost no sheen), and a "Super Fine" pad (it's white) to create a gloss finish. The speed of the sander is usually full speed. I hope this helps. Please let me know.
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Bye for now and thanks for watching!
Steve
no random orbital sander?
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Does the water based conditioner or stain raise the grain? If it does do you just sand it with 220?
Good Morning Katy!
Yes, the products I use in this video do raise the grain somewhat, but not more than any other kind of waterbased finishing products. I use 220-grit paper to sand between coats, but only after the first coat of urethane has gone down over the stain and is dry. This procedure is the same even if you're using oil-based urethane. I hope this helps. Do you have a finishing project in mind?
Bye and thanks for watching,
Steve
hi, is it recommended to thin the stain with water ?
thank you
after using it yesterday with ugly results, I have the same question. My can contained a thick liquid compared to his can of blue stain. I am here trying to see if anyone has found the need to thin it. Not sure if I'm sanding off what I did yesterday or trying a thinned coat for #2.
a palm sander??? not my choice when finishing .very informative video
Please educate us about edges!! Even though I hand sand my cut edges they always turn out 100x's darker than the uncut parts of the wood :(
I know this is super old, but that’s because end grain soaks up liquid like a sponge. You have to do something to seal the edges before you apply stain. Maybe a thin layer of wood glue?
Did you use medium, fine, or superfine rubbing pad?
If you go lower in the comments you can see he answered this question saying that he uses "fine" (grey in color) for a satin finish and "superfine" (white in color) for a gloss finish.
It would have been informative if you had shown the products.
I would use a hand plane to smooth out tool marks.
by the looks of it, it's just plain dish scrubber - ask your wife about it :)
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Oh hellll noo thats too much work
why on earth would you be teaching new homeowners or diyrs to use a massive belt sander on a 1 by board like holy cow a number 4 hand plane cost less than a 1/4 of that belt sander and does 10 times a better job and leaves the board after less than 2-3 minutes ready for stain or finish.
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I've always done the final grit of sanding by hand if possible. I also apply a trace coat of stain /dye in order to show the flaws that need to be sanded out
can I mix water in stain to coloring the crafts ?? it will b mix easily??