2023 Honda Rebel 1100T Full Test and Review - The Smallest Bagger
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I own a Rebel1100 and I've seen the 1100T. The bike itself is great. The hard bags are not bad, but you can get better aftermarket. Same with the batwing. Honestly if they wanted to get these flying out the door it would be super easy, give this bike the silver wing treatment. Everything from the bags to the fairing are all better on that bike and then you just adjust the trunk for a passenger and boom these are flying out the door. As it sits now this is just an 1100 with bags.
Yep, good points. Still, having spent a week with both, if I was in the market I'd probably just get the T for the convenience and then look to accessorize it to my needs.
What kind of better fairing can you get aftermarket? The biggest problem I see is that none of the aftermarket fairings have the cuts to equalize the pressure near your helmet, which prevents buffeting. The smaller Honda fairing has the cut out, the large one on the T has the cut out, Indian and Harley are doing it on theirs.
@@nomercy4521 buffeting isn't the same for everyone... depending on your height, the windshield and angles, it could be fine. The way I have my Memphis Shades batwing fairing set up, I get no buffeting.
I want one of these .. they’re just not cheap even used .predictably because they’re so new
@@nomercy4521 there are a couple of batwing fairings that will fit and a frame mount fairing. quick google search had them show up.
So there are a couple of reasons why your complaint that the gearing isn't tall enough isn't anything to worry about. 1. Unlike most other baggers it is chain drive... which means that you can change the gearing easy peasy by just putting a smaller tooth sprocket on the back or a larger tooth sprocket on the front.... or both if you want a really big change. With it's big power and low weight it can easily handle taller gearing. 2. The bike was designed to rev higher than your typical Harley type cruiser so even if you don't want to change the sprocket it won't hurt the bike in the least. So if you are someone who is interested in the Rebel 1100 go for it. If you dont like the gearing you can change it easily and cheaply. It's not even worth mentioning.
I have the 1100DCT (2021) and love it. I've ridden all over the state of Florida with no problems. I got a better seat, higher bars, and a couple other mods and my bike is damn near perfect.
Good review brother.
Thanks! I think you can get the fairing and bags as accessories for your bike as well.
How tall are you?!?
you might wanna share the name of the parts @ecrusch? Thanks
Do you use it as a daily rider? Do you ever ride in the rain down in FL?
My wife has a 2017 Rebel 500, and for the last 6 years she’s complained about no storage or wind protection. I guess her answers are finally solved.
I hope in the future they’ll create a Rebel 500T.
I'm sure there's some aftermarket solutions that can turn your wife's bike into this thing.
I thought the 1100T DCT in Bordeaux Red Metallic was a fine looking motorcycle. With after market pipes it has a nice sound. I would recommend this motorcycle to someone like me. 63 years old with some physical limitations. Nice job Honda.
Which pipes did you select?
I am a die hard vintage bike guy and detest modern motorcycles, but I gotta say, I like this bike. Since when do we need 800 pound, 2000 cc monsters to make it from point A to point B?
.....that depends on how far point A is to point B !!
yes those big bikes are ridiculous
I bought the 1100T in May and I am absolutely thrilled! Greetings from Germany / Bavarian Forest 👍😄
How is the bike doing after a year?
Chain drive in belt driver almost identical in efficiency. The chain is a couple of percent more efficient when new but when worn the belt actually becomes more efficient.
I would defo consider one of these when I get old or ill and can't manage a big bagger any more! Well done Honda for a bagger that also might interest beginners into the Bagger world, or even others on a tight budget.
Nice job. In this case, size matters. Especially weight. This is a winner.
Yep, not everyone if looking for huge bikes, though they are very comfy.
It looks so good especially in matte green. I'm 5' 6" so the idea of a smaller bagger like this is very intriguing
Few people I would trust for a review on this specific bike. Good job.
Thanks! Much appreciated.
You've got a great motorcycle channel, your channel and Ryan at Fortnine. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
This one the best reviews I’ve seen about this bike on RUclips!! For me this bike is ideal being that I no longer have my left foot. So my Hayabusa had to be sold, no more clutch for me. I haven’t been on a bike 🏍️ in a few years and I’m anxious to get back out there, so this or the Goldwing are my only bigger bike options. Thank you for helping me make my decision. After all, I’m not getting any younger! Great review! 👍
Thanks for sharing your reviews!
Nice video keep up the good work fella
I think there's a market for day-trips, where you don't need much storage and prefer the sportier ride and lower cost. Thankfully, it also comes in a sophisticated burgundy and not just the Sharpie Black as shown here.
The green metallic is gorgeous
For those who don't like the cramped riding position, I imagine it's easier to raise a seat than lower one. I suppose one could get a sprung seat for it which would also help with the bumps. I'm getting older and am looking for a lightweight, lower seat bike with some rain protection and bags. Baggers make practical bikes in my opinion.
Love seeing all the Cobourg spots !
I love mine!
I think the CTX700D with its better fairing, luggage, and it's different controls makes a better bagger except for it not having cruise control.
exactly !! i can't even sit on a rebel; so UN comfy
My 1973 Harley Electra Glide didn't have a stereo. I liked it fine for touring.
I completely agree. Honda could make it a real tourer out of it. For us 6ft or more it is just too small. Otherwise a great looking and well made cruiser in my opinion. I rode the 500 model and it was more than just a solid machine. Can check it. Got my like bro. Keep it up and take care.
It’s one of the few non-Harley’s out there short people can ride. You in the 6 ft+ gang have a plethora of options in the MC world.
@@BitCoin-jl4ns I agree, but the options among cruisers are a few. :)
Good review 👍✅
The windshield ✅✅👍
Sounds like the head shake has to do with the factory tires being bias ply! I heard switching to radials fixes that! Bias ply tire stretch at high speeds change the rake angle in the bike.
Nice video 👍
I could see myself on this bike. I currently ride a '17 harley forty eight but i would never give it up for a full on bagger/dresser. My sporty can do anything a bigger bike can do and if not better.
except carry a lot of luggage and have a nice soft ride doing thousands of miles...
@@AyaWettsalso his sporty can’t go more than 150 miles between fill ups lol
I enjoy your balanced reviews. Keep up the great work.
Thanks!
They are really cool. I have the same thoughts. Drop by, you may also find my work interesting.
Yesterday F9 just did a retrospective of the Silver Wing and today you release a review of the Rebel T. Coincidence or Canadian? 😄 👍
I'll check it out now. Haven't seen it yet.
My my left ankle has no flex anymore so I love the DCT options. I can ride cruisers with a heel toe shifter still, but I prefer my Honda CTX700N. It’s comfortable and easy to ride. I sat on a Rebel 1100T and I think it would be perfect for me.
ctx is so much better for everything. I'f I was 5' 2
then i could sit on a rebel
i currently ride a road king, my first bagger, now i couldn't do without them.. thinking about selling cuz i need some cash and i would definitely ride this rebel bagger
Living in Europe i would absolutely consider a smaller more aggressive bagger. I agree though that Honda cut corners with this. Bigger fuel tank and slightly adjusted ergonomics would be perfect for this. The fuel tank is self-explanatory, but higher sitting position, one or 1.5 inch, wouldn't make it any less friendly to short riders, but would make it more friendly to rider's back and elevate a lot of issues with being cramped.
Yes, this bike seems to be aimed at the Euro market as riders there aren't as obsessed with huge bikes.
I really like this bike, but it needs a bigger seat and a better looking pipe. It also needs brighter paint and finishes. I’m not a fan of the blacked out finish.
A beast for the little guy...
Not for me, but happy it’s there for those who want it
Interesting … Good video 👍
Thanks!
Harley basically made this bike in 2012. The Switchback with the dyna 103 motor. Totally flickable and lots of power.
I remember the Switchback. It was a nice bike which was later replaced by the Sport Glide. I saw one of those today on my ride. Now they have the Lowrider ST which is way pricier. That's the way it goes with Harley.
@@DifferentSpokesTV The new Nightster Special adding a fairing and bags competes very well, and its a little better than the Rebel... but not worth the price so I'm still keeping my Rebel.
i like it
I would love to see if I can fit on one at 5’0” tall
Even before you commented it the seating looked awkward to me. I´m 184cm from top to bottom so about the same size, and as an older geezer at 65 I get cramps in legs and back if I sit still for too long. I have an old Vulcan which I otherwise like very much but the seating is getting to me more and more every year so I propably have to do a trade in or sell/buy one of these years. Thanks to you I can cross the Rebel from my list. Why do they have to shrink the bikes in Japan? Is it to force bigger guys to buy expensive and foolish looking (personal view) adv bikes? Fortunately there are bargains to be made in the used market...
Honda announced the manual 6speed is coming to the USA
Honestly if the 1100T was offered with a manual transmission in the USA I would probably be replacing my Shadow with it.
Yes, it's too bad. You can get the regular Rebel and then get the fairing and bags as accessories.
@@DifferentSpokesTV unfortunately it’s a different fairing and the the bags aren’t hard shell and lockable. At least the last time I tried.
@@NoGlockTrucker you are correct, but to me the fairing looks better and with the non T, you can add a rear carrier with the back seat and it's cheaper than the T version with bags and all the other add on's by about $50 USD. I have been doing a lot of research on these the past couple of months going back and forth on what my next motorcycle would be. This or the AF Twin dct, based on the fact that I would only have the opportunity for off-road riding about 5 times a year right now, I'm going with the 1100 DCT with all the add on's. The difference between the passenger back rest with a rear carrier and not being able to have a rear carrier were the difference for me. I am a huge fan of rear carriers.
@@williamprimiano7267 While I would consider a rear carrier a nice option it wouldn’t be a deciding factor for me. I would prefer to have lockable hard shell saddle bags. Also I don’t want DCT at all. As for the different fairings, I would be happy with either one, I was simple pointing that they aren’t the same..
Wonder if there is a steering damper available for them?
If they DO recreate Silverwing (not as scooter as currently) these are my speculation
1. Core platform (engine, transmission, parts of frame etc) most likely between CB500, Hornet 750, OR Rebel 1100
2. Taking the rear plastic from 1100T would be amazing
3. However, if they released it in 1100 platform it would compete with 1100 too much, so most likely the former two
I want a silver wing scooter. The Suzuki Bergman put the Yamaha majesty and Honda silver wing out of business. Though the silver wing is slightly better it cost more. I had the burgman and the only problem is the belt snaps and they make it impossible to change yourself well the 400 at least the larger one has a chain. And on my model the tires were too small but the new ones are slightly larger so don’t know about those.
All kinds of people have large scooters like a silver wing or burgman in Florida or in Europe or Japan but in other states it’s too cold to use as transportation and a scooter isn’t cool enough for leisure riders but I really liked it.
I want the batwing cowl and bags for my 300. 😂😂
Doesn’t the 1100 come with forward controls?
I just got mine 2024 1100 4 days ago..n i fcking love it!!!
Where can i get those bags?
these are OEM saddle bags, you can only get them when you buy Touring version of the bike, but don't worry, they are not so good, for example, they don't have quick release and the capacity only 35 liters, buy yourself Viking Bags
We love the sound of the new Rebel 1100cc Honda. One of its finest featufeaturesat sound just, out of the box.
I just wish they came in more colors than black and they added some CHROME!
Ciao.
Bel video.
Si dice che la moto sia instabile oltre i 130 km/h.
Tu hai notato il problema ?
Can you please do a video on Honda NT1100? Not available in North America for some dumb reason, and it's basically the best middleweight touring bike with upright seating. I'd love to buy one, but can't convince anyone to import it!
Unfortunately without riding the bike I could really just talk specs which wouldn't make for a very exciting video. The closest we get here is the Africa Twin Adventure Sports which I did review last year. Great touring bike especially with its massive range.
they have in Asia but sure wont sell at that price !! Big engine for what when you can get a bmw. , yamaha, etc.
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I've never had a cruiser/bagger, though i have looked at a Triumph Bobber, but that's only good for local runs down is Spain (dry roads), by the style i like it in! This however is something worth considering, easy to fit an auxiliary tank under the seat,with a decent fabricator, i can see it as a long distance tourer.
Good,honest review...oh,you can always trade the wife for a smaller Thai or Filipino bride? 😅
its not comfortable enough for a long distance cruiser... its really just too small...
@@AyaWetts I'm Scottish, small...as Jim Bruer described our own lads of AC/DC :)
@@williamrae9954 feel free to try it out.. I'm only 5 feet tall, not exactly a giant. I can tour on this and have done thousands of miles, but its still not nearly as comfortable as something larger, and is not my first choice. I still love my Rebel and ride it around, but not for long trips any more.
@@AyaWetts My ideal woman... if she's bigger than my rucksack... ha ha ha
My son was looking at this the other week. We’ll see what direction he goes between this or the Kawasaki ninja of eliminator.
This is a lot more bike than the Kawasaki 400s. He might want to look at the Rebel 500 for more comparable performance.
Bring back the big v twin cruiser pls honda. The vtx
I think I would defiantly choose another bike for that price range. 18k seems like a lot.
@@cowmath77 wow, I’m talking about total cost in Canada. 18 k for a base model dct bagger that will have only a 50% resale value in 5 years. Not a smart investment when there are a lot of choices in that price range that will actually hold their value better and do a better job of touring. He even said the bike is to small for 2 up riding comfortably which is the main qualifier for a bagger. It’s made for 1 up over night or weekend trips only. Sure people cross the country on mopeds but they are not comfortable…and they don’t invest 18k into them ether.
@@cowmath77 did you even watch the video? He stated that the model test is over 17k Canadian before the taxes and finance fees. At 9:30ish.
You need to pay attention before making comments on subjects you obviously can’t comprehend.
Public school definitely let you down.
@@Bugoutnow589 no need to be a di*k about it. He made a mistake.
Lol I wouldn’t be bragging about that income…..Ok I’m done with this silliness…..bye
@@cowmath77 You make too much to purchase a Rebel.
That fuel tank is a joke?
Who is in charge at honda, one miss step after another? North America gets screwed constantly. NT1100, Hornet, Transalp ect.
Big wow we got the xl150 with drum brake.
Honda I ride a KTM because of you!
Honda should've brought back the VT 1100 and did this... Missed the mark like all auto makers.
Rebel is good for short trips, but long trips its just too small, too small of tank, and the chain is horrible for long distance. I've done thousands of miles in long trips on my Rebel 1100 where I added my own bags and fairing... and I'd choose basically any other "touring" bike... I've done a few trips on a Vulcan Voyager, and its night and day difference how much nicer it is traveling on that thing.
He said Honda doesn’t have a bagger, what about the Goldwing?
shaking due to bad tires
NT1100 would have been a better choice for the states....
Anyone have a link to the saddle bags?
these are OEM saddle bags, you can only get them when you buy Touring version of the bike, but don't worry, they are not so good, for example, they don't have quick release and the capacity only 35 liters, buy yourself Viking Bags
How the hell do you de tune an 1100 cc to only get 86 hp? How the hell does an 1100cc 2 cylinder get only 72 ft/lbs of torque?
Sounds like the perfect daily rider back and forth to work.
if they made a rebel bagger with a fixed giant front fairing like the indian challenger i'd buy one right away.. i dont like the batwing
With shaft drive would have easily been best bike in it’s category ever
basically a $12000ish usd touring bike? That is tempting.
as long as you like short trips... its a very small bike and not comfortable for long trips.
@@AyaWettswhat do you recommend for longer trips like a 2 hour commute everyday what would you choose?
@@lostpockets2227 2 hours you want something very comfortable, and possibly very large if you have plenty of things to carry with you... you'll need to find what works for you though, there are so many options that would fit
$15,000 here and so many others built better. Don't need that power.
Remember, the Indian's 100HP is the engine rating, not the HP at the tire. Cycle World did a Dyno and I think had 83HP at the wheel.
Like any Suzuki using the K5 motor platform (not the '950' in Europe),only 130bhp at the wheel, it costs the exact same to unleash all models to 150,including the 950!
I have an 1100, it is really more of a sport bike than a bagger. It just isn't big enough
Sixth gear and probably 5th gear are overdrive gears already.
On behalf of all the riders who started on a Honda rebel 250, no we do not have fond memories of that bike, even back then we knew it was junk 😂
I guess not everyone gets nostalgic.
@@DifferentSpokesTV you can get nostalgic about those first rides without feeling nostalgic about the bike itself. Did you own a rebel 250?
@@YouMotorcycleI have to say that the nostalgic feeling you get with a 250 125 or 50 is kinda like when you were 4 and got your first big wheel or 8 and first BMX. Everyone starts at the cradle. I have fond memories of the Honda nighthawk 250 I got to use at the MSF course. Noticed one sold at a dealership recently and can't find any. My first bike was a Buell blast 500. From there I went down cc instead of up but my next bike could be this one.
@@billpirillis9961 there are many good 250, 150, 50cc bikes out there.. I wouldn't say the rebel 250 was one of them. Your night hawk is an entirely different bike.
can see here how uncomfy the leg position is having pegs below vs out front. They could have had a good bike but..........
if i ever got the cruiser itch, i would probably get this. but for now, i think i'll stick with the ninja 1000 w/saddlebags.
Amazing bike. I've owned 2
I’m 6ft 400lbs I feel like I’ll look to big on this bike
Is there a reverse function?
😊
Who wants to be cranking 4.5k RPM All-Day-Long on the Highway... It's like a 50 yr. old Guy listening to a 20 something Girl Talk... It will WEAR YOU OUT!
It’s a shame this version is only offered as a DCT 😢
I seen without
I've seen reviews where you can put it into manual mode an paddle shift with some controls on the left grip. The shifting seemed great. I think you can also paddle shift up or down of dct put you in a gear to high or low. Then dct will resume control.
Not a true tourer. Engine is too rowdy, the trans should have a loafing OD and the range is silly short.
I actually seen one of these in the wild here in Oklahoma, USA where I’m at and from a distance, it looks acceptable if not, fairly impressive. Personally, I would have a blast on a bike like this even though I ride a Harley. I love the idea of a “bagger” but not the weight or the price. Couple that with the handling and performance and this would be more my style. The only problem is I’m not interested in DCT. I’m not against it at all, but if I had my choice, I want a traditional manual transmission with a clutch. Which is not an option in the states, HONDA! WTH? That’s a big mistake unless they are trying to NOT sell them in America? The vast majority of people who want a bagger, even a baby bagger, want a clutch too. That decision will absolutely impact sales of this model here. Big mistake, imo.
you could buy the 1100 non T manual and add the bags and fairing aftermarket
In the last 4 years, I've added 7 bikes to my garage; 6 of them were brand new and the Grand America is an '18, purchased in '19 with a couple thousand miles on it.
I am happy with the bikes, but I don't think that any of my bikes should cost what I paid for them, standing on their own.
Bruh just install a smaller rear sprocket - easy fix!!!
Don't like them, go back to the old rebel
Fire who ever decided to change them.
Is this a woman's bike? Can taller riders be comfortable?
The average male is 5'9", I'm 5' 10" fits me perfectly.
@@kaferhaus seems to be a great bike.
I went a different route, but I've seen men thatve taken those for long trips and loved it. Very reliable
Better than a Harley but it’s no Triumph.
Have to disagree with “loping sound of a v-twin”. Sounds like a sewing machine to me. 😅. Anyway I’m not opposed to the idea of this bike tho I wud never buy one for a variety of reasons the main being DCT. An automatic motorcycle is simply a deal breaker. Defeats half the fun of riding. If I were looking at this class of bike I’d save for another year and get the Lowrider ST. Superior in every metric except price. But…I’m not one to shame other riders so if this floats your boat and makes you happy then enjoy the wind!
Yep, the Lowrider ST is a sweet bike but it is twice the price. Also, here in Canada we get the 1100T in standard which is the one I'd go for if I was in the market. Too bad they didn't give US riders the option.
I have been riding for 40 years and get zero enjoyment manually shifting a bike. The DCT is an amazing transmission and can outshift many manuals. I have watched comparisons and it’s nit even a close contest. Most people fail to realize that the DCT has 5 different shifting modes and they all offer something different. You can even manual shift it with paddies. All formula race cars use DCT transmissions.
you spend MORE time about other bikes
I know it’s made well, but man is that thing ugly. It looks like it survived a front end collision with a pick up truck.
I just think that motor is butt ugly. Even though cooling fins aren't necessary, I miss em.
To cramped
Too bad it's only DCT in the US. In my opinion, DCT is an answer to a question nobody asked.
Why are bike manufacturers so hung up on high pipes. They do nothing but cut down on the available space for the bags. What is wrong with the traditional low pipes, it is not a scrambler after all.
Looked at one in a showroom. It's tiny! Really really small. Can't see many men in the UK riding one. I'd say it's a womens bike
With forward controls I'd fit fine, but yes, out of the box the leg room is tight.
Naturally the fit is going to vary with the rider size. I'm 5'7" with a 30" inseam and find it comfortable. FYI I'm not aware of Honda-made forward controls for it. There are 3rd party options.
@Crosmyn yea I'm 5"11, 16 stone, sat on it and it was nowhere near big enough. Wonder if they will make a bigger version
@@CrosmynT'Rex certainly do...good thing with DCT,you can put a matching Nissin,clutch master cylinder on the left bar,and do away with the foot brake, which isn't easy to use with forward controls! Just make a hose down to the ABS pump!
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That is one ugly, cheap looking motorcycle. I don’t care how well it might perform, riding around on something that ugly is a huge NO for me. Just my opinion.
Exactly why I won't buy a H/D cruiser, too many narcissists and poseurs!
@@williamrae9954 what does that have to do with HD? So you’re saying you won’t ride a badass motorcycle like a Harley because of other people being posers? So you’d rather ride an ugly bike so you don’t look like a poser? Yeah that makes ZERO sense.
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