@@TheSaintbx she's first on Amanar yes, however, Simone has more difficult vaults done with almost no execution errors, so while maroney is tops on the one vault, Simone wins with a variety of equal and harder vaults in her program.
This video highlights the one aspect of vault I like the most- its diversity. Athletes from so many small countries have been able to be represented because they have a great vaulter. Vietnam, Mexico, Switzerland, Korea, etc have world or Olympic medals just because of this.
I really don't understand why Paseka get's that much hate. She is a world class vaulter and her form was not that bad before, later in her career yes. Look at 08:58, her form is not bad at all.
@@branimirudovicic9007 Her entry was still pretty bad. No hate, because obviously she did what she needed to do and is way more talented than me. Just not something that makes the happy parts of my brain fire when I watch it.
i love alexa moreno's run approach - the hop into the super speed is so unique and so visually pleasing to watch. too bad she was so close to getting bronze in tokyo!!!
Julia Steingruber, so cool, so confident she showed them what consistency looks like. That's how you do it. Simone Biles is the world's greatest vaulter of all time. Her form is perfect, her power is awesome she takes her vaults to the sky! Her landing precision is beautiful. Simone's vaulting is a force! Zamoldichova did her thing. Chusovitna is an inspirational athlete, a great vault champion, who breaks down barriers of age showing us all a thing or two. What an athlete! What a woman! She's a mom now, and she's still doing the sport at the elite level.
When I first saw them put Simone at 2, I was like, oh that's absurd, but then I saw who they put at 1, and I was like, ok that makes sense, she's vaulted for so long. And this is just worlds that they are looking at. Although, not all of those landings are solid, but she's competed six times, hence all the points
Wish Maroney had been treated better. She could've had a long, phenomenal career. With the right support she probably could've gotten that triple twist she wanted.
Ugh why does Paseka have so many medals? Poor Janine Berger lost her bronze to an amanar that was less than 2 1/4 of the way around (and I'm not even exaggerating)
Cheng Fei was also pretty incredible 😊 rebecca andrade is also up there as of recently, her cheng is the best In the world because she is somehow able to flair out the laid out position at the end!!
And to think that if this was compiled from just 2001 to 2019, Chuso already had nine years under her belt prior to this competing Elite internationally since her first Olympics were 1992. We'll never see another like her. Legend.
i can’t believe that the new vault has only been in use since two years before i was born. with the improvement the event’s seen since then it feels like such an ancient relic!
I think the video is just a list of them by "points" (how theyve placed in event finals) over the last two decades but I agree that Maroney was such a great vaulter
This isn't really about opinions though, this is about objective points. I do agree that maroney would be wayyyy higher if it were about opinions, though, she was so amazing.
How can Maria Paseka and Mckayla Maroney be rated the same here?! I’m not sure how Paseka can be compared to her, since Mckaylas are so much higher, wider and cleaner than Maria’s. But I guess just the long amount of time Paseka has been competing is decisive here.
Vera Schwarz The 2 or 3 per country rule is another reason that even got to be in the competition. It doesn’t make her good or even nearly the best. It’s a consolation prize.
This is a bit of a weird way to score this. Anything past 5th place shouldn’t really be receiving points. There should be more points difference between 1st 2nd 3rd etc. 2 1st place finishes shouldn’t be behind someone with multiple low finishes
But this is the point of this serie, highlight the gymnasts who are always in the finals but rarely gets a medal. Videos based only in medals (like this one: ruclips.net/video/9K54UoGAc84/видео.html ) already been done.
@@gymnasticfan9148 I think it important to understand the history of gymnastics! Now, I love Simone Byles, but everything isn't about her! There are a lot of gymnasts who made vital contributions to the sports over the last 100 years, who don't get the credit they should! This is a great way of honoring them! Furthermore, there is also something to be said about CONSISTENCY! It takes just as much energy to be in the final consistently as winning it!
GymnasticFan I understand that. I was saying that I think there needs to be more of a difference in the amount of points awarded per placement. 1st place should be awarded more than just one point difference than 2nd and more than 2 than 3rd. And 3rd shouldn’t be just two better than 5th. That’s a significant difference.
@@adamtravis9380 Gymnastics isn't the Formula 1 ticker board, where a first place win in a season literally hands the driver the championship because of mega bonus points! 🤣🤣🤣 In this scoring system, CONSISTANCY plays a major role! Therefore, two first place finishes doesn't trump a gymnasts who has been in the finasl a half dozen times!
It’s why she had to create unique moves on uneven bars in particular- she was tall for a gymnast and had to get creative to be competitive. She credited her coach for working so well with her individual strengths.
the fact that one of the top vaulters had a yurchenko 1.5 on a normal vaulting table when the Amanar had been around for quite a while on the old table is kinda sad
Because like, above and beyond the fact that a gymnast's comparison to the other vaulters at a certain championship may differ from her comparison to the best vaulters of the era or all time, this also fails to account for: - Career length (Kayla Williams' vaults are excellent, for example, but because she only did one Worlds she's lower on the list than several with lower quality gymnastics) - When a gymnast peaked (Olympic vs. non-Olympic year) - Performance outside of finals (and gymnasts who didn't train two vaults thus not making finals ever, but had high quality on the one vault they did train) - And that dumb as shit rule that kept a lot of event specialists out of 2018 and 2019 WC
(also, don't get me wrong: the fact that Paseka was allowed to win VT EF when Biles and Steingruber were in the same building is a crime. But legislating the COP and how judges fail to apply it is beyond the scope of this discussion.)
Maroney had impeccable form, huge amplitude. Paseka had none of the above. Her form in particular was absolutely ghastly- and was why she was constantly injured.
One, they haven’t competed for 20+ years, two Cheng spent as much time FALLING on her vaults as landing them. Simone is great on vault but not number one.
Chusovitina represented multiple countries over multipkke decades. That is dedication.
She's mainly doing it for her son i think. Just hope she stays healthy. Can't wait to see her at Tokyo 2021
She's amazing! I thought last Olympics was her last though
When I saw Simone was 2nd I was like who is the was one? When I see it’s Oksana I was like, ok it’s fair, it’s the superwoman
McKayla Maroney will always have my heart when it comes to vault
Same
Same! I thought she would be first here for sure.
Yes, yes, a hundred times yes! She was absolutely good.
@@TheSaintbx she's first on Amanar yes, however, Simone has more difficult vaults done with almost no execution errors, so while maroney is tops on the one vault, Simone wins with a variety of equal and harder vaults in her program.
My absolute fave. I miss her gymnastics.
This video highlights the one aspect of vault I like the most- its diversity. Athletes from so many small countries have been able to be represented because they have a great vaulter. Vietnam, Mexico, Switzerland, Korea, etc have world or Olympic medals just because of this.
Paseka and Olsen are the most unpolished vaulters in the world. I can't see great vaulters on them beyond medals.
I really don't understand why Paseka get's that much hate. She is a world class vaulter and her form was not that bad before, later in her career yes. Look at 08:58, her form is not bad at all.
@@branimirudovicic9007 Her entry was still pretty bad. No hate, because obviously she did what she needed to do and is way more talented than me. Just not something that makes the happy parts of my brain fire when I watch it.
Chusovitina ❤ Queen on Vault 😄
Lol
@@agungs8564 what's so funny? Try doing a Produnova when you are 42, before you laugh at her
@@prajaktapendse7310 why would i do that ? Im just comment lol
Prajakta P so people have to be able to do what they’re commenting on before commenting? Looks like you can’t comment on anything then so shut up
i love alexa moreno's run approach - the hop into the super speed is so unique and so visually pleasing to watch. too bad she was so close to getting bronze in tokyo!!!
I love seeing Mexican representation in gymnastics! I hope she's inspiring a whole generation of athletes.
I hope she goes for Paris 2024!
Julia Steingruber, so cool, so confident she showed them what consistency looks like. That's how you do it. Simone Biles is the world's greatest vaulter of all time. Her form is perfect, her power is awesome she takes her vaults to the sky! Her landing precision is beautiful. Simone's vaulting is a force! Zamoldichova did her thing. Chusovitna is an inspirational athlete, a great vault champion, who breaks down barriers of age showing us all a thing or two. What an athlete! What a woman! She's a mom now, and she's still doing the sport at the elite level.
I loved seeing her get her Olympic bronze medal, you could see how happy she was.
When I first saw them put Simone at 2, I was like, oh that's absurd, but then I saw who they put at 1, and I was like, ok that makes sense, she's vaulted for so long. And this is just worlds that they are looking at. Although, not all of those landings are solid, but she's competed six times, hence all the points
Quantity instead of quality.
Wish Maroney had been treated better. She could've had a long, phenomenal career. With the right support she probably could've gotten that triple twist she wanted.
Cheng Fei, Monica Ruso and Simone Biles are my favourites
Paseka ✂️
Ugh why does Paseka have so many medals? Poor Janine Berger lost her bronze to an amanar that was less than 2 1/4 of the way around (and I'm not even exaggerating)
The one where Simone Biles is only second to Oksana Chusovitina
Alicia Sacramone, Simone Biles, and Mckayla Maroney will always be the best female American vaulters in the modern era in my opinion. ✨💕
no love for Carey huh
Annia Hatch Jade Carey Mohini Bhardwaj
Kayla Williams definitely was an underdog and got a gold medal 🥇 with a stuck DTY
Cheng Fei was also pretty incredible 😊 rebecca andrade is also up there as of recently, her cheng is the best In the world because she is somehow able to flair out the laid out position at the end!!
Shallow Olsen’s “Cheng”... YIKES
Oksana is so amazing!! Still competing!! She is number # 1 in my book 📚🤸♀️🤸♀️🤸♀️🤸♀️
BILES, by miles...❤❤
Thanks for making the compilation, I enjoyed watching it and reliving the moments with some different commentators.
Interesting video concept-must’ve taken forever to calculate! Thank you so much for making this.
I love Chuso’s run!
QPHashSS77 Lol Moreno’s was my next fav!!!
And to think that if this was compiled from just 2001 to 2019, Chuso already had nine years under her belt prior to this competing Elite internationally since her first Olympics were 1992. We'll never see another like her. Legend.
McKayla was a true star vaulter.
Her form and height was so, so good.
Hong Su-Jong😳🤯
I will love Khorkina forever lol. I watched her as a kid during the Olympics, the multiple times she went, and always looked forward to watching her.
Phan Thi Ha Thanh
I think it is between Biles and Mckayla Maroney
McKayla Maroney ❤️❤️
Just to fix: Jade Carey has 2 silver medals, not just 1.
@QPHashSS77 One of them was in 1999. My plan is to make the 1981 to 1999, 1950 to 1979 and "all time" versions of this serie.
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An all time list over the sport’s history of each event would be really interesting!
i can’t believe that the new vault has only been in use since two years before i was born. with the improvement the event’s seen since then it feels like such an ancient relic!
Queen Chuso 🥰💖
Jade Carey is better than Moreno. And I'd definitely place Maroney way higher than 8th, especially over Paseka.
I think the video is just a list of them by "points" (how theyve placed in event finals) over the last two decades but I agree that Maroney was such a great vaulter
This isn't really about opinions though, this is about objective points. I do agree that maroney would be wayyyy higher if it were about opinions, though, she was so amazing.
Zamo, Cheng Fei, McKayla, Simone❤️❤️❤️❤️
Omg oksana is so much more
Then anyone else
Still miss your voice Mitch.
Pretty amazing that Khorkina won Gold on vault, by far her most challenging apparatus. Queen. Also how good was Alicia? Underrated gymnast IMO
Go Simone Biles GO!
Simone gets unbelievable height
Maroney was even higher. Watch her team final vault in London, it was skyward.
Is it just me, or was Hong Su-jong the first gymnast to sort of really challenge Cheng Fei
simone is incredibly strong... wow!
Elena Zamalodtchikova 🤩❤️❤️❤️❤️
How can Maria Paseka and Mckayla Maroney be rated the same here?! I’m not sure how Paseka can be compared to her, since Mckaylas are so much higher, wider and cleaner than Maria’s. But I guess just the long amount of time Paseka has been competing is decisive here.
Both have 2 gold medals on Vault at Worlds
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@QPHashSS77 +1000
Vera Schwarz The 2 or 3 per country rule is another reason that even got to be in the competition. It doesn’t make her good or even nearly the best. It’s a consolation prize.
It’s a point scoring system in use.
This is a bit of a weird way to score this. Anything past 5th place shouldn’t really be receiving points. There should be more points difference between 1st 2nd 3rd etc. 2 1st place finishes shouldn’t be behind someone with multiple low finishes
But this is the point of this serie, highlight the gymnasts who are always in the finals but rarely gets a medal. Videos based only in medals (like this one: ruclips.net/video/9K54UoGAc84/видео.html ) already been done.
@@gymnasticfan9148 I think it important to understand the history of gymnastics! Now, I love Simone Byles, but everything isn't about her! There are a lot of gymnasts who made vital contributions to the sports over the last 100 years, who don't get the credit they should! This is a great way of honoring them! Furthermore, there is also something to be said about CONSISTENCY! It takes just as much energy to be in the final consistently as winning it!
GymnasticFan I understand that. I was saying that I think there needs to be more of a difference in the amount of points awarded per placement. 1st place should be awarded more than just one point difference than 2nd and more than 2 than 3rd. And 3rd shouldn’t be just two better than 5th. That’s a significant difference.
@@adamtravis9380 1st is 10, 2nd is 8 and 3rd is 7. 3rd to 5th is 3 points of difference.
@@adamtravis9380 Gymnastics isn't the Formula 1 ticker board, where a first place win in a season literally hands the driver the championship because of mega bonus points! 🤣🤣🤣 In this scoring system, CONSISTANCY plays a major role! Therefore, two first place finishes doesn't trump a gymnasts who has been in the finasl a half dozen times!
Jade Barbosa should be in the video. She has 3rd and 4th places, scoring 12.
Ela tá no vídeo 7:00, com 16 pontos
@@gymnasticfan9148 Ah, passei direto, e esqueci um resultado. Obg!
jade carey was second 2017 & 2019
Chang Fei >>> Alicia Sacramone
what is the name of the vault at 14:50?
Amanar
@@gymnasticfan9148 thanks so much
It is so interesting to watch Svetlana Khorkina's lanky body compared to some of the other shorter bulkier girls.
It’s why she had to create unique moves on uneven bars in particular- she was tall for a gymnast and had to get creative to be competitive. She credited her coach for working so well with her individual strengths.
hong actually came first in 2014
I mean OBVIOUSLY oksana had to be 1.
It’d be ludicrous if not! 😂
Video could have been shorter and more accurate if we went with just 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Because seriously... 🤦🏾♂️
I don't think so, you can just skip to 13:10 to see the top 3
I spent hours calculating those points to just put the top 3 in the video? Doesn't make sense at all
Don’t watch the video then. Go waste your time whining about something else.
3:34 is okay to jump like that?
Yeah it’s just either a .3 or .5 deduction depending on how big the jump is
@@Jobailey02 They can't take .5 for just one hop. They can only take .1 or .3 for one hop.
@@bluepanther1013 whoops yeah I realized after watching the rest of the video 🤭😳
the fact that one of the top vaulters had a yurchenko 1.5 on a normal vaulting table when the Amanar had been around for quite a while on the old table is kinda sad
No one Produnova?! 😐
She didn’t compete in 2001 and beyond, which is the focus of this video.
mckyla Maloney no.9? are you sure? her amanar is superb and higher in the air than anybody else!
Maroney grear gymnast but she only won 2 medal world championships
And she was no 8
This system ranking Maroney and Paseka as tied shows pretty effectively how flawed it is
The system? Or the fact that bot are two time world champions?
@@gymnasticfan9148 the system that only takes results into account as the measure of relative quality of the gymnasts
Because like, above and beyond the fact that a gymnast's comparison to the other vaulters at a certain championship may differ from her comparison to the best vaulters of the era or all time, this also fails to account for:
- Career length (Kayla Williams' vaults are excellent, for example, but because she only did one Worlds she's lower on the list than several with lower quality gymnastics)
- When a gymnast peaked (Olympic vs. non-Olympic year)
- Performance outside of finals (and gymnasts who didn't train two vaults thus not making finals ever, but had high quality on the one vault they did train)
- And that dumb as shit rule that kept a lot of event specialists out of 2018 and 2019 WC
(also, don't get me wrong: the fact that Paseka was allowed to win VT EF when Biles and Steingruber were in the same building is a crime. But legislating the COP and how judges fail to apply it is beyond the scope of this discussion.)
@@Altoclarinets But that's the real point of this serie. Highlight these gymnasts we always see in the Worlds finals
Paseka is a better vaulter than Maroney change my mind
Maroney had impeccable form, huge amplitude. Paseka had none of the above. Her form in particular was absolutely ghastly- and was why she was constantly injured.
Ugh all those disgusting Chengs bother me so much
Produnova ?????? The best
Retired after the 2000 Olympics, and this video starts at 2001.
Korhkina? Worst form ever.
mckayla being 8th is a joke
She competed at 2 worlds. What did you expect?
She won two world titles- the ONLY two worlds she competed in. This was based off points from finishing position in event finals.
Flawed video.
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AMIGA
So stupid, Biles and Cheng are the best vaulters
This is medals
One, they haven’t competed for 20+ years, two Cheng spent as much time FALLING on her vaults as landing them. Simone is great on vault but not number one.
@@saragrant9749 only one fine vault from Cheng is some much better than all in this videos. Biles not competing her 100% power is better too
@@gymworld8609 Biles have more