My experience and thoughts on this for others. First, here we are 3 years later and your video is still helping poor fools like me! I'm changing the injectors and glow plugs in my 1993 F350 7.3L IDI. I've owned it for 30 years. It came without a turbo (the last year they didn't) but I put a Banks Sidewinder turbo system on it years ago. Thank God, what a difference! Got the first 3 driver-side injectors out pretty easy and then got to the rear driver-side injector, you know the one in the very back and worst place to work, and BAMMM! I couldn't get it loose enough to spin out of the galley without giving it everything I had with 1/2" breaker bar, long extension with a swivel. Even when using all my strength laying on top of the engine, it barely moved. I was waiting for SNAP! and the thing to break off on the head. Nothing every goes easy for me so this was no surprise, but until I saw your video, I had no idea others had problems with these injectors. The video helped me get a little more comfortable so I kept turning the injector with my ratchet only to move it an 1/8 of a turn each time Adding another half a can of WD40 wasn't helping either. I finally resigned to the fact that I needed to bring in the big guns and use my Dewalt 1/2" drive 20-Volt impact to work it back and forth to break it loose. After constantly dumping WD-40 on the top threads and working the threads in and out of the head, I finally got the the top half of the injector out. My joy was soon dashed when panic set it because I thought I had broke-off the lower half of the injector in the head. This is where your video saved my ass and my sanity! THANK YOU! I ground off the top head threads of the old injector and reseated it into the lower half that was still seated in the head. Even after doing this and turning it, lubricating it, and turning it more, I could get it to spin but it was heavily binding on something (probably carbon) something fierce and there was no pulling it out. I tried prying it out by prying it up with crowbars but that only flattened the corners of the valve cover I was prying against. I filled the injector hole with WD-40 (because I didn't have anything else to try like Berryman B-9 Chem Dip that breaks down carbon) and let it sit for the next 10 hours while I slept having nightmares of the engine coming out to fix this bitch! The next morning I pulled the hood off and tried spinning the injector with my 1/2" ratchet but it was just as hard to spin as the day before. I figured I had little choice left so once again I returned to my trusty Dewalt 20v 1/2" drive impact and used it to turn the injector. Slowly but surely the injector started to spin faster and faster. The hammering of the impact and the WD-40 was doing a good job breaking down the carbon and getting the bottom half of the injector to break free. After about 2-3 minutes of spinning the injector with the impact and wiggling it finally came loose and even let me pull it free by hand! WHAT A RELIEF!!! I know this is a long reply but I wanted to send a huge thanks to @KoonTrucking for taking the time to post this video. I also wanted to share a lesson to your readers that I've learned during the 58 years I've been on this planet. Look up what you need to do before you begin so you know the trouble you may run into. If your luck is like mine, plan on the job taking 5-times longer than it takes someone else. Do your best to schedule work like this when you won't be in a hurry and can stop and take a break if you need to. NEVER say, "This should only take an hour" because it NEVER only takes and hour and never give up until you win. If something isn't working, try something else, but don't get in a rush and break stuff.. Take your time and use your head and you will prevail. Happy New Year 2024 ALL! Let hope it's better than last year!
Man this reply made my day! Glad the video helped you out and glad you were able to get a fix. I totally agree with you about looking up things to know what you will face before you have to face them. Great reply and i appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment. Hardly ever do people leave a comment if it helps them, they just move onto the next project. As a creator, it takes a lot of time to set up and film stuff when you are working on something (you obviously see how frustrating that job is) so to get a comment like this totally makes it worth it! Click that subscribe button! Never know what you will see on this channel!
Man I gotta get me one of those ladders with a bench on top like the one you guys have there. I changed the spark plugs yesterday on my 90 F250 and it wasn’t easy trying to avoid putting pressure on hoses and wires while trying to reach way down there.
I seriously just used this trick and i can tell you that this will now become a " Custom made tool " for these, Hot damn this was a life saver working on an IDI E350 Van
From SE Minnesota and the oldest I see come in the shop are 2003 and they are so rotted you cant even get them on a lift. It is hilarious at times seeing how bad some vehicles are due to rust.
Good tip not saying you will have to do it again, but that would go in my special tool drawer have it every time I do that job ready to go. Happy Father’s Day too!
Ooo!!! That's anice tip. I didn't realize that the injector tip screwed on to the injector like that. Of course the one time I had to change injectors on my 73 they had all came out. But I'll remember that tip for the next time. Thanks for sharing Clay.....
Do you guy's still have a lot of these older trucks still coming for service? I'm in northern Va. and the rust up here isn't crazy bad but if you don't stay on top of it.. Well I'm sure you can finish that sentence. Several years ago I lost the back brakes in the old plow truck we had at work. It was during a pretty bad snow and ice storm around 2am.
What do you use to clean the hole? And do you put something to cover the hole to keep the carbon from getting into the cylinder? Or it doesnt matter and the engine will just eat it without a problem?
I actually use a screw that will fit inside the brass/copper washer. Use a pick to clean all the carbon and then blow it out with an air blower. Pull the screw out and the copper washer comes with it, all nice and clean
In recent videos you keep talking about the crows feet with the 3/8 drive in the end so you can put an extension in it and use it as a wrench. Who makes them?
Snap On is the only company I know that has them and I think recently they even changed the design and may not offer the extension in the end. We use my set often with the small 1-2” extension and it makes for a super stubby wrench. Perfect for lines on injector pump
Out here in Oregon there's still tons of these trucks around. I've got an old turbo idi that needs some work. What lube are you using and where are you putting it on the injectors? Thanks!
What's that box of 9 mm on the tray has to do with this Ford fix? To intimidate the Ford if it not fix just use the 9mm and bury the truck? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Sometimes it feels that way.
No, if you have seen my videos you have to have heard me talk about 9mm is great in a fun but terrible wrench or socket size ..... that’s the only use I have found for 9 mm in our shop
non turbo IDI 🤦♂️ Boy i tell you what that was a very reliable engine but lacked GO!! BUT once the turbo came out that was a game changer i got a f250 5 speed service truck with turbo and inter cooler talk about stump pulling power friend has that and then some
No you ground off the top threads of the OLD injector so it doesn’t even thread into the head. The bottom threads will grab the tip on the inside of the broken injector to remove it. Works perfect and have done it many times. Obviously the broken injector is garbage and the injector you ground the top threads off will only be good for a puller from that point on but it works perfect.
You have to manually pull it out ? Not sure what you are even commenting about but if you leave top threads on it will just thread into the head like it is designed to do 🤦🏼♂️ the objective is to remove the injector tip that is still inside the head and you can pull it out like described in the video. We have done it this way numerous times because this happens due to the carbon build up in the head itself seizing the injector tip
My experience and thoughts on this for others.
First, here we are 3 years later and your video is still helping poor fools like me! I'm changing the injectors and glow plugs in my 1993 F350 7.3L IDI. I've owned it for 30 years. It came without a turbo (the last year they didn't) but I put a Banks Sidewinder turbo system on it years ago. Thank God, what a difference!
Got the first 3 driver-side injectors out pretty easy and then got to the rear driver-side injector, you know the one in the very back and worst place to work, and BAMMM! I couldn't get it loose enough to spin out of the galley without giving it everything I had with 1/2" breaker bar, long extension with a swivel. Even when using all my strength laying on top of the engine, it barely moved. I was waiting for SNAP! and the thing to break off on the head.
Nothing every goes easy for me so this was no surprise, but until I saw your video, I had no idea others had problems with these injectors. The video helped me get a little more comfortable so I kept turning the injector with my ratchet only to move it an 1/8 of a turn each time Adding another half a can of WD40 wasn't helping either.
I finally resigned to the fact that I needed to bring in the big guns and use my Dewalt 1/2" drive 20-Volt impact to work it back and forth to break it loose. After constantly dumping WD-40 on the top threads and working the threads in and out of the head, I finally got the the top half of the injector out. My joy was soon dashed when panic set it because I thought I had broke-off the lower half of the injector in the head. This is where your video saved my ass and my sanity! THANK YOU!
I ground off the top head threads of the old injector and reseated it into the lower half that was still seated in the head. Even after doing this and turning it, lubricating it, and turning it more, I could get it to spin but it was heavily binding on something (probably carbon) something fierce and there was no pulling it out. I tried prying it out by prying it up with crowbars but that only flattened the corners of the valve cover I was prying against. I filled the injector hole with WD-40 (because I didn't have anything else to try like Berryman B-9 Chem Dip that breaks down carbon) and let it sit for the next 10 hours while I slept having nightmares of the engine coming out to fix this bitch!
The next morning I pulled the hood off and tried spinning the injector with my 1/2" ratchet but it was just as hard to spin as the day before. I figured I had little choice left so once again I returned to my trusty Dewalt 20v 1/2" drive impact and used it to turn the injector. Slowly but surely the injector started to spin faster and faster. The hammering of the impact and the WD-40 was doing a good job breaking down the carbon and getting the bottom half of the injector to break free. After about 2-3 minutes of spinning the injector with the impact and wiggling it finally came loose and even let me pull it free by hand! WHAT A RELIEF!!!
I know this is a long reply but I wanted to send a huge thanks to @KoonTrucking for taking the time to post this video. I also wanted to share a lesson to your readers that I've learned during the 58 years I've been on this planet. Look up what you need to do before you begin so you know the trouble you may run into. If your luck is like mine, plan on the job taking 5-times longer than it takes someone else. Do your best to schedule work like this when you won't be in a hurry and can stop and take a break if you need to. NEVER say, "This should only take an hour" because it NEVER only takes and hour and never give up until you win. If something isn't working, try something else, but don't get in a rush and break stuff.. Take your time and use your head and you will prevail.
Happy New Year 2024 ALL! Let hope it's better than last year!
Man this reply made my day! Glad the video helped you out and glad you were able to get a fix. I totally agree with you about looking up things to know what you will face before you have to face them. Great reply and i appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment. Hardly ever do people leave a comment if it helps them, they just move onto the next project. As a creator, it takes a lot of time to set up and film stuff when you are working on something (you obviously see how frustrating that job is) so to get a comment like this totally makes it worth it! Click that subscribe button! Never know what you will see on this channel!
Man I gotta get me one of those ladders with a bench on top like the one you guys have there. I changed the spark plugs yesterday on my 90 F250 and it wasn’t easy trying to avoid putting pressure on hoses and wires while trying to reach way down there.
I seriously just used this trick and i can tell you that this will now become a " Custom made tool " for these, Hot damn this was a life saver working on an IDI E350 Van
Glad to help !
Made my day Bro!! I thought I was going to be pulling the head for sure. Thanks😅😅😅
Glad it could help! Hit that subscribe button!
Good tip you and wild bill are the ford experts better than most ford dealers. I prefer 44 mag to intimidate dirty harry.
We are FAR from being experts on anything, we just share little tips and tricks we know to help others out.
I’m about to attempt to get the other half out that’s stuck awesome sauce pro tip! Thanks
Good ol’ copper magnet always comes in handy
I’m from northern Minnesota and the 2016’s are rusty up here there are no 93’s just fond memories 😂
From SE Minnesota and the oldest I see come in the shop are 2003 and they are so rotted you cant even get them on a lift. It is hilarious at times seeing how bad some vehicles are due to rust.
Good tip not saying you will have to do it again, but that would go in my special tool drawer have it every time I do that job ready to go. Happy Father’s Day too!
Mint. Thanks for sharing man. Bout to replace an injector in my turbo 7.3
You are brilliant! Thank you very much for sharing this.
Im looking at a idi and this is helpful 👍👍👍
Great video!
This just happened to me today glad I found this video thanks. Great trick
Ooo!!! That's anice tip. I didn't realize that the injector tip screwed on to the injector like that. Of course the one time I had to change injectors on my 73 they had all came out. But I'll remember that tip for the next time. Thanks for sharing Clay.....
I do not work on the diesel motors, but that was a great tip. And, Happy Father's Day.. .. Now celebrate !! Lol
Grate video! Thanks for the tips.
Allso HAPPY FATHERS DAY! TO YOU AND ALL!
Great tip Thanks for the video Happy Fathers Day
Happy Father’s Day to all the commentators and clay an Bill have a good day
thanks for the video Clay. Happy fathers day sir.
So do i need a box of ammo on my cart as well for this to work correctly??? Lol good tip Clay!!
Yep that’s the only 9mm we have found useful in our shop!
Great video y'all have a great day and stay safe 👍
Nice tip thanks for sharing.
If you were wondering this also works on a turbo idi.
Awesome video!
Thanks!
Thank you so very much very much as well done video great preciate it exactly that's what I need to do thank you
Thankyou for that!!
Happy father's day and injectors are a pain to change
After owning two 6.9 Fordbinders, I figured all these clunkers were recycled as sewer pipe long ago.
still have one in my toolbox. back in the day i did when i did that the service manager threw a fit because it ruined the core...Oh well..
great video i would ask one thing how do you clean out the injector cups on that motor
Do you guy's still have a lot of these older trucks still coming for service? I'm in northern Va. and the rust up here isn't crazy bad but if you don't stay on top of it.. Well I'm sure you can finish that sentence. Several years ago I lost the back brakes in the old plow truck we had at work. It was during a pretty bad snow and ice storm around 2am.
There’s still a bunch of those floating around especially in farm trucks and buses etc here.
What do you use to clean the hole? And do you put something to cover the hole to keep the carbon from getting into the cylinder? Or it doesnt matter and the engine will just eat it without a problem?
I actually use a screw that will fit inside the brass/copper washer. Use a pick to clean all the carbon and then blow it out with an air blower. Pull the screw out and the copper washer comes with it, all nice and clean
Happy Father’s Day
In recent videos you keep talking about the crows feet with the 3/8 drive in the end so you can put an extension in it and use it as a wrench. Who makes them?
Snap On is the only company I know that has them and I think recently they even changed the design and may not offer the extension in the end. We use my set often with the small 1-2” extension and it makes for a super stubby wrench. Perfect for lines on injector pump
Thanks I’ll check into it. Always looking forward for more videos!
You will probably have to look on eBay to find them but they are well worth the money
Where did you purchase the top side Creeper
From Napa
I be first!!! great tip clay hey how did the harbor fright ratchet compare to the matco or snappy
You talking about the icon ? In the video this is a snap on ratchet
@@KoonTrucking yes! did it hold up??
Out here in Oregon there's still tons of these trucks around. I've got an old turbo idi that needs some work. What lube are you using and where are you putting it on the injectors? Thanks!
No I sprayed it in the hole where the injector came apart to help with the threads loosening from the carbon
@@KoonTrucking gotcha! Thanks!
How do you clean all the carbon out of that hole without all that stuff going into the engine?
Good question. You come up with any ideas?
How do I get it out if I’m trying to keep the old injector?
It will more than likely come apart if it is stuck as that’s the main reason why they separate.
Little bit of trouble? Like pulling the heads? Hahaha
Yep 👍🏻
What's that box of 9 mm on the tray has to do with this Ford fix? To intimidate the Ford if it not fix just use the 9mm and bury the truck? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Sometimes it feels that way.
No, if you have seen my videos you have to have heard me talk about 9mm is great in a fun but terrible wrench or socket size ..... that’s the only use I have found for 9 mm in our shop
@@KoonTrucking Dang, i didn't think about that earlier. 🤣
I’m pretty sure if you have to ask, “Why the box of ammo?” then you haven’t worked on enough fords. :) I kid, a little,
@@BlindBatG34 That was my thoughts initially. Then Clay referred back about 9mm size fasteners. So, Ford live for another day....
@3:48 random box of 9mm ammo on the tool table. I guess they were gonna put it out of its misery if they couldn’t get the injector out!
Wasn’t a random Box of ammo those were strategically placed there…..
non turbo IDI 🤦♂️ Boy i tell you what that was a very reliable engine but lacked GO!!
BUT once the turbo came out that was a game changer i got a f250 5 speed service truck with turbo and inter cooler talk about stump pulling power friend has that and then some
Only Ford!
Don't they make a special tool for removing the injector cup..?
This didn’t work because u failed to mention the threads will be stripped after u remove the top threads meaning it’s ineffective.
No you ground off the top threads of the OLD injector so it doesn’t even thread into the head. The bottom threads will grab the tip on the inside of the broken injector to remove it. Works perfect and have done it many times. Obviously the broken injector is garbage and the injector you ground the top threads off will only be good for a puller from that point on but it works perfect.
You have to manually pull it out ? Not sure what you are even commenting about but if you leave top threads on it will just thread into the head like it is designed to do 🤦🏼♂️ the objective is to remove the injector tip that is still inside the head and you can pull it out like described in the video. We have done it this way numerous times because this happens due to the carbon build up in the head itself seizing the injector tip