7.3 Ford DIESEL Injector CUPS | Riff Raff DIESEL Tool | HOW TO - WATCH & LEARN

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @bluemaruder001
    @bluemaruder001 3 года назад +41

    I used the RiffRaff tool to change the cups in my 7.3 with about 320K. Great tool and made the job so much easier. There was nothing wrong with my original cups but I was replacing injectors and glow plugs, valve cover harness etc. I wanted to go ahead and do everything while I had it all apart. My 7.3 is more reliable than my 6.7!

    • @chrisfowler623
      @chrisfowler623 3 года назад +2

      (7.3 owner here) what was the avg cost it ran you?

    • @LaSH_N_OuT_7450
      @LaSH_N_OuT_7450 2 года назад

      @@chrisfowler623 average cost of what? The tools or the truck?

    • @007.3l
      @007.3l 2 года назад +3

      @@chrisfowler623 I spent about $2000 for everything
      That's 8 reman ford injectors
      2 valve cover gaskets (uvch)
      8- zd-11 glow plugs
      4 gallons of oil and a fl1995 oil filter (recommended oil change after injector install)
      Alliant power injector bore brushes
      (To clean injector cups)

    • @rogercarrico4975
      @rogercarrico4975 2 года назад +3

      @@007.3l I'm getting ready to do this. $2000 is a lot. But my truck has been so good this far. I just rebuilt the front suspension. I believe the truck has a lot of life left in it. Thanks

  • @bryanray-dol
    @bryanray-dol Год назад +5

    Thanks for the video, just got my cooling system sorted out and I’m getting fuel in my degas. Local shop wants 12 hours of labor for this job so DIY it is! Looks pretty straightforward.

  • @Soul_Popper
    @Soul_Popper 22 дня назад +1

    I know it’s a little bit of an older video but I’m sure it could help some people out. Instead of banging on the injectors to get them back in you can slide the bracket over that inboard bolt and use the open end side of a wrench on the outboard side of the bracket and just push down. Seats them perfect especially the harder to reach injectors on the back side rather then trying to beat them in. Thanks for the good video.

  • @01Z28smith
    @01Z28smith 3 года назад +15

    I don't even have a 7.3 but I seem to end up watching all your videos "because knowledge is power" glad to see your grinding even on the weekend keep up the videos. Awesome information as always.

  • @robbiefryhling5063
    @robbiefryhling5063 3 года назад +61

    Idk if I missed it but what I like to do is throw a penny in the cup and then take them out so that way no shavings go into the cylinder

    • @sv8313
      @sv8313 2 года назад +1

      Good idea

    • @williamgreen2364
      @williamgreen2364 2 года назад +2

      Stellar advice

    • @cyfeeback5623
      @cyfeeback5623 2 года назад +2

      .......I did this after I pulled the cup out and the penny fell down below and now I can't get it out.......I think I'm gonna have to pull the head ......

    • @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
      @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod  2 года назад +4

      Oh no....

    • @swink49
      @swink49 2 года назад +2

      I was wondering if he was gonna block the hole

  • @frankvacanti5277
    @frankvacanti5277 2 года назад +7

    I put a penny in the cup before threading the tap.saw that in a video before doing this the first time. Being a plumber i like to put a little Lube or cutting oil or WD-40 something to make it a little smoother cutting in and removing the cup. I didnt know the tool could be rented. I baught the hammer in tool&tap. I did rhis twice so far no poblems. These old relics are on the endangered species list. But love my 7.3 p s d's

    • @Joshua-yn1zx
      @Joshua-yn1zx 7 месяцев назад

      I too am a plumber and I feel the same way. Nice to see a fellow plumber in the comments! God bless brother.

  • @The_Wood
    @The_Wood 2 года назад +11

    Dude, you really have a great way about explaining "how-to" for us regular Joes. Very few people have the skill level to competently work on diesel engines. You just seem to "get it" and have the ability to convey the process so someone (like me) who is not a technician can understand it and maybe even pull of the project successfully. I also appreciate you not slurring out beloved 7.3 for a relic...again 😉. Great video and please keep up the good work. I don't know if a repair like this is within my skill level but now, thanks to you, I at least understand how to do it. Well done, sir. 👏

  • @Theheavys
    @Theheavys 11 месяцев назад +2

    When you were looking in saying that it was clean.. could clearly see old loctite sitting around the upper bore near the bottom. Sometimes the brushes don’t take it off and you have to use a pick or flat head and chip it off then go in with the brush for a final buff. Just a tip incase anyone has had these leak after doing cups

  • @brandonsilvay4822
    @brandonsilvay4822 Год назад +4

    The way I usually do when changing the injectors is. I attach a small tube to a vacuum and I vacuum out the cylinders but the glow plug trick It's prior what I'm gonna try doing the next time. I pull some injectors.

  • @deaniverson4671
    @deaniverson4671 3 года назад +8

    I have that tool did it to my 99 works awesome!

  • @DJPereira2012
    @DJPereira2012 3 года назад +4

    Old school love for the 7.3!

  • @theezeelife292
    @theezeelife292 3 года назад +5

    About to buy a 99 F-250 and plan on doing this whether it needs it or not (if you saw the truck, you'd probably recommend i do it). Thanks for demonstrating the cup tool as well as showing how to do the injectors.

  • @jerryknorr679
    @jerryknorr679 3 года назад +4

    Nice being a helper, nice work. Thanks ARod

  •  3 года назад +3

    nice new and clean install

  • @charlescastille3796
    @charlescastille3796 5 дней назад +1

    Thank you for the help on this very informative video

  • @7.3TOPG
    @7.3TOPG Год назад +1

    For an extra 70$ riff raff diesel sells billet stainless injector cups totally worth . Brass cups are 100$ vs billet stainless for 170. The reason they crack is due to electrolysis from the cooling system on the brass cups . Switch to stainless and never worry about it again !

  • @alanarmstrong2323
    @alanarmstrong2323 3 года назад +2

    Truck rental on eBay is selling spiral lock rings for injector cushion more support for injector cushion .They also have Alliant power orings in kit from U S not China.

  • @stuartcunningham8672
    @stuartcunningham8672 Год назад +3

    Great video, thank you! Please tell your friend though that you have to hold the handle when using a torque wrench, otherwise it's not a correct torque.

    • @andrewruggiero7023
      @andrewruggiero7023 Год назад

      not sure if you're joking or really dont understand how a torque wrench works.

    • @stuartcunningham8672
      @stuartcunningham8672 Год назад

      @@andrewruggiero7023 Direct from Norbar's website, who make SnapOn torque wrenches...
      "Most torque wrenches are length dependent and feature a marked loading point on the handle but, many people don't use it. For accurate results, most torque wrenches have to be operated with your hand centred over the marked load point."

  • @harpersperformancehorses3143
    @harpersperformancehorses3143 Год назад +3

    Would have liked to seen how you removed the glow plugs and how you went about getting all the old oil and fuel out to keep it from locking

  • @frydoggo
    @frydoggo 11 месяцев назад +1

    Scuff the cups very lightly with light scotch bright only where you apply lock tight....

  • @rokitman5753
    @rokitman5753 5 месяцев назад +1

    A heel bar is the best injector tool ull ever own

  • @3374jj
    @3374jj 3 года назад +1

    Good job guys... need to turn yall loose on my 6.7

  • @jamesgerman7947
    @jamesgerman7947 3 года назад +2

    That tool has made me a lot of money!

  • @ANDRESLOPEZ-pl9lg
    @ANDRESLOPEZ-pl9lg Год назад +2

    Is the valve cover gasket reusable or not? I wanted to see what I needed besides the injector cups, injector o rings

  • @mr_big_pea_pea4013
    @mr_big_pea_pea4013 3 года назад +1

    Thank you! Helpful.

  • @CPsGarage
    @CPsGarage 3 года назад +4

    I know that dude working on that truck 😂

  • @vanderpoolfarmsl.l.c.9983
    @vanderpoolfarmsl.l.c.9983 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for this excellent lesson, Arod!
    Maybe a stupid question, but....
    Why is it necessary to replace the cups?
    Thank you!

    • @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
      @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod  3 года назад +4

      Fuel in coolant

    • @vanderpoolfarmsl.l.c.9983
      @vanderpoolfarmsl.l.c.9983 3 года назад +1

      @@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Thank You!

    • @codyphillips48
      @codyphillips48 3 года назад +4

      Only when necessary. In this cause they had a hard red substance adhered to them. It's better the be safe then sorry when installing 2k worth of injectors.

  • @christopherperry5493
    @christopherperry5493 10 месяцев назад

    Is that sealant compatible with the extended life coolants?

  • @D4x4Bronc
    @D4x4Bronc 3 года назад +6

    May 7.3s last forever

  • @sneakythunder9483
    @sneakythunder9483 2 года назад

    I have done cups two times now. First time I used stainless. I don’t recommend that. Very hard to properly seat the cups. In fact, I installed 2 of them improperly and got a lot of blowby into the degas/coolant reservoir which is why I replaced them all a second time. When I installed cups the second time, mine did not bottom out until 35 foot pounds.

    • @tac13001
      @tac13001 2 года назад

      I just ordered the ss cup yesterday before seeing your post. Do you have any recommendations for the ss cups?

  • @davidfrank2824
    @davidfrank2824 2 года назад +3

    Just a heads up you don't have to spend $500 for this tool. The company rents this out. It's a $75 fee and you have to get a $500 deposit that's returned to you when they receive the rental back. I'm definitely making sure to rent this tool to do the job.

  • @swink49
    @swink49 2 года назад

    Riffraff recommended 35ftlb of torq for the cups

  • @riplippenoutdoors8909
    @riplippenoutdoors8909 10 месяцев назад +1

    Just out of curiosity if a cups bad will it cause your Reservoir to get diesel in it?

  • @Quiet-storm
    @Quiet-storm 3 года назад +3

    Did this same job last year on my 2001 7.3l dually. It had 130k on it and all the cups looked good but I figure if I'm this far might as well replace them. The issue I had was the truck got fuel in the oil during a trip. I found that every seal was bad on the first landing of the injector. I used this same kit, its really high quality. I was wondering what oil you recommend for our 7.3l? I've heard mixed reviews on the synthetic but would like to give that a try.

  • @vannorman1116
    @vannorman1116 3 года назад +6

    I've got a 99.5 with 320 on the clock and to my knowledge the valve covers have never been pulled. What brand of injectors should I use and why that specific brand? Are cups usually mandatory swap with injectors also ? I'd like to keep it around as long as I can cuz they're a very reliable engine. I change oil every 3500 miles Mobil 1 15-50 and change my tranny fluid n filter every 15,000. I love maintenance !!

    • @codyphillips48
      @codyphillips48 3 года назад +2

      We used full force diesel stage 1.5's on this truck. The cups are not needed if you don't have a leak. We installed them in this instance due to the old ones being damaged from some red crap the last guy used on the injectors.

    • @vannorman1116
      @vannorman1116 3 года назад

      @@codyphillips48 thanks ! When ur referring to the cups leaking...what actually leaks and where does the leak leak to ?

    • @codyphillips48
      @codyphillips48 3 года назад +4

      @@vannorman1116 coolant into fuel

    • @LaSH_N_OuT_7450
      @LaSH_N_OuT_7450 2 года назад +1

      @@codyphillips48 no it leaked diesel into the oil. The top part of the injector has oil the bottom part that is seated in the injector cup is where the fuel is pressurized and when the cup cracks it will get fuel into the oil because it goes down past the piston rings

    • @tylerwightman2315
      @tylerwightman2315 2 года назад +3

      @@LaSH_N_OuT_7450 when an injector cup cracks, you get diesel fuel in the coolant, not the oil. Lots of info on the web about this. Just fixed mine the other day that started getting diesel fuel in the coolant and sure enough I had one cracked cup. Crack was right where the cup is surrounded by coolant at the "diesel fuel" portion of the cup

  • @mattlars3328
    @mattlars3328 9 месяцев назад

    Good info thx

  • @jonhales503
    @jonhales503 Год назад

    Great video! How do you get any fluids out that went into the cylinder to prevent Hydrolock.

    • @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
      @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod  Год назад

      Crank the eng over without glow plugs in

    • @RJ-cc1fz
      @RJ-cc1fz Год назад

      @@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARoddo you mean try to start the engine with the glow plugs out? I guess you said crank because it will not start without the glow plugs in?

  • @tbillie1230
    @tbillie1230 7 месяцев назад

    I know a classic sign of bad cups be diesel n the coolant but would that make NO INJECTOR CLATTER?

  • @WhiteBoiJake
    @WhiteBoiJake 8 месяцев назад

    Will bad cups keep making my o rings on my injectors keep frying every few months? Would make sense

  • @letmypeoplego8442
    @letmypeoplego8442 2 года назад +1

    Did you use a soft brush or a metal type wire brush to clean hole?

    • @letmypeoplego8442
      @letmypeoplego8442 2 года назад

      I got a pink sheet after replacing mine. i have fuel in my antifreeze now. Can't figure out what i did wrong.

    • @codyphillips48
      @codyphillips48 2 года назад +2

      I used the otc injector brush

  • @aaronbernhard557
    @aaronbernhard557 2 года назад

    Are the stainless steel cups any better

  • @danonebiker
    @danonebiker 9 месяцев назад

    Hello, I am wondering, that you got the cup seated properly with 10 ft lbs. In the riffraff instruction is written 35 ft lbs. I would say ( i am doing the injector cups in stainless on my truck), that your cup was noch seated. Can you say something? I am still wondering^^ 35 ft lbs was in some case not enough to seat it properly. Best regards... nice video btw.

  • @johnthurmanmerman
    @johnthurmanmerman 2 года назад +2

    Did you guys drain the coolant from the block before? I’ve seen videos of guys putting the loctite on the bottom of the cup as well. Do you think it would help with sealing better?

    • @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
      @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod  2 года назад +1

      Yes u have 222

    • @tac13001
      @tac13001 2 года назад

      I was wondering the same thing about the coolant. Unless I’m misunderstanding, the answer is yes on removing the coolant?

    • @johnthurmanmerman
      @johnthurmanmerman 2 года назад

      @@tac13001 yes, you want to drain from the two ports in the block first. Otherwise you will get coolant down into the cylinders. Ask me how I know haha

    • @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
      @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod  2 года назад

      Yes!!!

    • @RJ-cc1fz
      @RJ-cc1fz Год назад +3

      @@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARodI’d think that should be part of the how to since it sounds important

  • @charlescadwell5417
    @charlescadwell5417 Год назад

    Not yet

  • @dustintunis9347
    @dustintunis9347 2 года назад +1

    8:58 - We are going to repeat this for the remaining 8... Wait, it's a V9? 🤯. Sounds like something I'd say, I just would be caught on camera.

  • @fishon4418
    @fishon4418 3 года назад +4

    Great tool indeed. Need it in my Arsenal. Curious though are you gonna use the half Quarter trick for the valve cover harness when you reinstall? Seems to me that the harness comes loose eventually with all the vibration going on. Even with new wiring. When I use the half quarter on the harness connector it never comes loose unless I take it off. Is there something different to do? Just curious for feedback.

  • @rickierodriguez2287
    @rickierodriguez2287 Год назад

    Where I can buy those tools ?? Thank you

  • @freddygonzalez9083
    @freddygonzalez9083 Год назад

    I have a 2003 with the. 7.3 engine and the engine oil is going to the diesel that can be cause by the injectors or the injectors cup?

    • @raymondclass6794
      @raymondclass6794 8 месяцев назад

      That could be a blown o ring on an injector or yea a cup could be fried

  • @earlsmith3894
    @earlsmith3894 2 года назад +1

    Do you half to scuff up the cups were, you apply the loctite?

  • @Joshua-yn1zx
    @Joshua-yn1zx 7 месяцев назад

    Just asking, not criticizing. Is there a plug or plugs you need to pull to drain oil and fuel off before pulling injectors??

    • @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
      @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod  7 месяцев назад

      Yes, do you need to...no. it will into the cylinders which ull have to evacuate anyways

  • @SOHCNightmare
    @SOHCNightmare 3 года назад +1

    I had to change my injector cups. 3 of them cracked and were leaking diesel into the coolant system.

  • @chuckdejong3746
    @chuckdejong3746 3 месяца назад

    I have 687000 on my 7.3 and never done them

  • @cgonedfishing
    @cgonedfishing 3 года назад +1

    So that harness on the injectors just pops right off?

  • @treeofliberty4407
    @treeofliberty4407 3 месяца назад

    I see this video has age on it, but i must ask. Will this cause white smoke and loose of power to my truck? I've been chasing this problem replaced engine harness and a few different sensors bc my scan tool was showing everything going down electrical. I lastly replaced the cam sensor, ran great but still had the white smoke, idk about the power loss bc I didn't drive it. Scanned it again with a contribution test, #4 cylinder came up, noticed white smoke coming from the head around #4 and replaced that injector, still smoke comes out from around the #4 in the head. Was thinking a broke ring, but this might be a better try before I tear into the head.

  • @Bwanar1
    @Bwanar1 2 года назад +2

    What made you decide to change them? Didn't look like anything was wrong. Did you think you had cracking or something? I changed my Injectors at 400K plus, which were still running fine (upgraded) and my cups looked good as new.

    • @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
      @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod  2 года назад +3

      Had fuel in the coolant

    • @Bwanar1
      @Bwanar1 2 года назад +1

      @@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Ahh...that will do it, thanks for the reply.

  • @cfh4201969
    @cfh4201969 Год назад

    Anyone know if that tool will work on the vans?? Normally have to remove the engine to do the cups with the standard tool

  • @robertburch5686
    @robertburch5686 Год назад

    ? Do you have to remove all the coolant out of the engine before removing the cups?

  • @K2007_6
    @K2007_6 2 года назад

    there is plugs that you use to drain the oil before you pull
    the injectors

    • @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
      @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod  2 года назад

      Maybe for you

    • @K2007_6
      @K2007_6 2 года назад

      @@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod they are on that truck i saw them

    • @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
      @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod  2 года назад +4

      You DIY guys can pull em & also open another can of worms. I'll keep doing it the way I have for the last 21 years with 0 issues...Lil mess but that's what break cleaners for

  • @larryknepp9166
    @larryknepp9166 Год назад

    I have a 2000 7.3L Diesel with 423,000 miles on it and my coolant is getting away very fast like a gallon every 3days or so !!
    I'm looking for some answers !! Any help would be appreciated

  • @fluffykittynoodles
    @fluffykittynoodles 9 месяцев назад

    How much does a job like this go for? I'm trying to figure how much my time is worth.

  • @imranabbasi7871
    @imranabbasi7871 3 года назад +1

    👍

  • @Audiosweat
    @Audiosweat Год назад

    wait you didnt have to pull the drain plugs?

  • @fisher1972
    @fisher1972 3 года назад +3

    I used the one from Whitaker tools. Quicker and easier than this tool.

  • @SmokeyBear363
    @SmokeyBear363 4 месяца назад +1

    I’d take off oil deflectors you pry just a little off and you got a $40 mistake 😂 ask me how I know

  • @cleetusprep
    @cleetusprep 3 года назад +7

    Under 200 thousand miles and it needs new injectors ... must not have taken very good care of it

    • @codyphillips48
      @codyphillips48 3 года назад +2

      The electric side of the injectors failed. It was setting high low codes in the IDM. Someone had been in there before. Plus the guy wanted stage 1.5 injectors Installed.

    • @bigdaddydaddy3203
      @bigdaddydaddy3203 Год назад +2

      I was thinking the same thing and it also had a me worried too cause my 96 7.3 has 170k on it I’m thinking man that’s low mileage don’t ya think ?but I guess if ya get fuel in the coolant u have no choice then

  • @justineggleton1920
    @justineggleton1920 3 года назад +1

    Hey arod what's up buddy jl Connolly landclearing and excavation ..bill h. Just put out a good excursion video today you need to check him out..i wish he could be on your podcast but he is so busy I guess from what he said..if you do nothing else though please check out Anthony Youngbloods channel called super duty service..the work he does to 6.0 and 6.4s are incredible..he rebuilds the truck and engine to absolute perfection .. if you live powerstrokes as much as I do which I know you do..please check him out he would be the best to get on the podcast! Don't forget buddy..your friend jl connolly

  • @rickybrown4448
    @rickybrown4448 3 года назад +3

    How come you didn't turn the engine over to get all the fluid out so it wouldn't hydraulic

    • @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
      @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod  3 года назад +1

      Didnt show it....

    • @codyphillips48
      @codyphillips48 3 года назад +3

      We did after sitting 24 hours with the injectors Installed. We removed the glow plugs and bumped engine over the with the starter solenoid WITH the valve cover loosely installed.

  • @4lpower
    @4lpower 3 года назад +3

    wow low miles that thing just getting broke in. i have done plenty of cups in a 6.0 but never a 7.3 my 03 personal truck has 320k on it factory cups new injectors tho. the old 7.3 work truck we have floating around the shop has 650k on it factory cups still new injectors and i just put a turbo on it the oem bit the dust. geuss its all in how u maintain your coolant.

    • @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
      @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod  3 года назад +2

      Yeppppp

    • @sherwoodrogers4339
      @sherwoodrogers4339 3 года назад +1

      Great information you’ve shared . I was thinking about changing mine til reading your comments. I’ve got 342k bout to drop new stage 1 180/30 full force injectors in with tunes to pair up with them.

    • @jackadamz3
      @jackadamz3 3 года назад +1

      Mine has only 160,000 on it an needed new cups. The coolant was changed 3 times since I got it at 75,000 miles. I think it all comes down to the original installation an who done it.

  • @magmacoffee
    @magmacoffee 11 месяцев назад +2

    I’m a nobody but totally unnecessary for only 170,000 miles on a 7.3 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @jackadamz3
    @jackadamz3 3 года назад

    Cups were supposed to be at least 35 ft lbs.

  • @ardenbriggs2714
    @ardenbriggs2714 3 года назад +1

    Why are you replacing the cups?

  • @MartinSheckelstorm
    @MartinSheckelstorm 9 месяцев назад

    Did you seriously pry on the oil exhaust port pulling the injectors 😮

  • @3374jj
    @3374jj 3 года назад +2

    I see the "previous mechanic "
    Disliked this video...
    😆

  • @samwarner4398
    @samwarner4398 2 года назад

    Didn't drian HP oil first would've been better

  • @owenflis9406
    @owenflis9406 Год назад

    The 8the cylinder injector is a different size. I don’t know who told you that but I don’t think that true. When u get a new set off injectors what is one a different size. Makes no sense

    • @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
      @PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod  Год назад

      The size is the same.....look up what the long lead injector means...

    • @burrl48
      @burrl48 Год назад

      It’s only on super duty’s to eliminate the kackle . OBS has all the same type injectors .Makes the engine more quiet. Same size injector just a different style nozzle I believe

  • @CysMix1
    @CysMix1 6 месяцев назад

    It says do not apply thread locker 😂😂😂

  • @garyhall8308
    @garyhall8308 2 года назад +1

    There is only one problem with your video you do not know how to use a torque wrench properly. tou need to grab the handle out towards the end to get a proper torque reading not push on it two inches above it.