Not sure why Thumbnails aren't working T_T posting them here as well: 00:35 intro 6:50 What growing up was like, model of success 12:01 Dr. K's career path, unique paths 21:30 identity 28:34 asking Dr. K questions, drawing conclusions from questions 38:34 reaching a "Final form" 52:50 meditation studies, how it helps 55:15 Takeaways, expectations, loving who you are 1:06:21 What it means to be the true self 1:12:05 harsh criticism 1:19:40 how to stand up for yourself 1:23:45 What happened on Twitch 1:30:30 psychopathy and sociopathy 1:33:30 AYAYA- skip no content here 1:39:30 Processing emotions 1:50:00 Meditation 2:00:20 closing thoughts, announcements
I've literally seen all interviews since the start of healthy gamer and this one was the toughest to watch. I had to take multiple breaks because I kept getting overwhelmed - it felt like watching myself go on stream. The most interesting experience was at 1:27:04 where I was completely focused on Dr. K's face and burst out crying after what he said and then 10 seconds later I noticed she had as well. There's something so heartbreaking about your ego hijacking your intellect to protect you but instead leading you to more and more pain. Thank you to both.
As a person that has consumed a lot of Dr K content this year, I really appreciate this episode with Mira. Very much relatable questions and situations. I learned that I should not constantly strive for an even more perfect and happy version of my self, but try to find happiness in my current self. I have this problem where I am working toward some future where I am happy, but I need to "check the boxes" to get to that point, much like Mira. I need to try to find and notice happiness in the present. It frustrates me that so many hit the dislike button. Why?
It's mostly just because she's Mitch's ex and there was an extremely negative picture painted of her after their breakup. I don't personally care about her in a negative or positive way, I just kinda know how people perceive her because of this.
What has always helped me is to find happiness in all the little things in life. Sometimes people think that being happy is about having the perfect life and being the perfect person, but that causes them to look at all the negative things in their life that is robbing them from that goal because no one is perfect. When you look at all the little things that make you happy or appreciative, it shifts your focus to the positive things in your life. Fun story, when I was a kid my mom used to always tell me that she would find happiness in falling leaves and other little things like that. When I was in college, I was walking to class one day and saw leaves falling from a bunch of trees. I only stopped for a few seconds to admire the beauty of falling leaves and the gentle breeze, but I was... happy and at peace, even with all the college stresses and whatnot. And the more I noticed those situations as life continued, I realized that all the little things that I do or experience every day makes me happy like those falling leaves. And that is the me NOW. And it gave me comfort to know that the me in the future, no matter what he's going through, will still have the little things in life to keep me happy.
@@brennanjay4158 Oh wow thanks, I forgot that I had made this comment last year haha. A year later and I'm still finding happiness in the little things. I hope everyone can find their own happiness in their own way.
@@RadiantStorm666 that reminds me of how only 1 week or so after my friend perpetrated a murder-suicide and i was deep in the throws of deep grief and trauma response, i walked into my work building and saw all the Christmas decorations had been put up, and I noticed myself feeling a moment of joy and happiness at the fun and the prettiness of it, and I was surprised in my deep sadness and hurt how i could still feel such positive emotion over such little things too. It almost felt like those things worked to bring me way more happiness when I'm starting from such a low place than they normally would've, and i felt grateful and glad i could still feel happiness over little things. I felt hopeful maybe for myself despite the psychological wound in me not being healed yet.
i like it better when he says let me think about that for a second and then he pauses and looks at the roof for 20 seconds i wish i could do that in the middle of conversation
At first I was getting really frustrated, feeling like she didn't get the answers "right" - and then i realized I was getting frustrated because I'm so much like Mira. Got so much out of this talk, tysm
No, you weren't getting frustrated because you are like her, she was just painful to listen to. Us monke don't like the unknown, and listening to an hour+ of her avoiding questions at all costs
I'm genuinely surprised because I did not expect to have as much in common with mira as I feel as though I do. I also did not expect the topic of this conversation to be about something that I've been struggling with myself for quite some time now
2:07 oh wow. She was raised to think there is a formula to success. So, she has realized that the formula she was given isn't for her, or even absolute. Now, she is looking to Dr. K to receive this formula. Dr. K isn't trying to give her a formula however. I know all i'm doing is receiving what he is trying to convey to her, but damn it is fascinating.
Yeah that was interesting, and I love that Dr. K usually waits 30 minutes more to spot this pattern in their (and others) conversation. Like it becomes so potent.
I'm just gonna copy paste a comment I responded to someone with. I think a lot of people here are getting confused what the essence of HealthyGamer is, but I'm just gonna give my take on it "I think you're coming in with the wrong presumpton with a lot of these videos. These streams aren't meant to be dedicated to "helping all video gamers' and their problems", its about trying to understand other people's problems and how problems from the past can form adaptive/maladaptive behaviours that affect others years down the line. I feel like its more of an education to understand all types of people, and better appreciate what the human mind can do, both good and bad. I sense (only viewing from your comment alone), a whole lot of frustration about your problems, and I almost feel as though the streams that you've been watching, and the "help" that you're seeking by watching these videos will somehow create a 'light bulb / eureka' moment, and that's usually not gonna entirely solve your case. As stated from his streams, Knowledge surrounding your problems is step 1, self-realization is step 2, step 3 is from you, that's implementing action. Dr. K can only go so far to help viewers identify and self-actualize, but it comes down to you to do something about it. I believe he hopes that the self-actualization will give enough motivation or an understanding about themselves that they can actually grapple with so that they can go and seek relevant, necessary help (whether that may be seeking an actual therapist/psychologist, or implementing interventions via meditation+introspection; then again thats what I believe what the AoE healing ultimately aims for)"
Shit I think this is probably a pretty good analysis of why half the community gets so mad at certain interviews. I also don't think it's a coincidence that every interview they hate happens to be with a woman, but I bet it's a combination of that and them expecting a video to solve their problems but they don't feel that way when it's someone they can't perfectly relate to.
@@NageekNoohac YES, the moment its someone they already have preconceived notions of and they can't completely relate to they go against the problems the interviewee's present, instead they try to poke holes at ideas, assume the worst and minimize the issues they're dealing with. I mean almost all of the issues people deal with in these interviews are small in the grand scheme of things, but for those going through it its tough to deal with and they might need guidance to look at things a different way.
@@NeonKodiak lol I kind of hope that lashing out at Dr. K for interviewing women is its own kind of therapy and eventually they'll realize that the point of his stream is that all feelings are valid and they have to be understood for people to ever feel better (rather than just suppressed and blamed on people they don't like getting interviewed on an internet therapy show's comments section/chat *cough*) but I guess we'll see
Thank you very much for this stream, I really relate to her, especially part with asking questions and expecting other to have answers for me. I've always felt inferior to others and had this false perception that other people know better than me. So whatever I thought or done is wrong by default. Listening to this conversation made me realize a few things.
@@sa-eedsiraj1711 I never said this was exclusivly ridicule, I also said it was a place for understanding and healing. So back to that point. Read in to it abit, these kind of comments was placed furthest up and it wasn't one of them. Read into it regarding her mentalstate and what the context is about. These things insinuates things for someone trying to be vulnerable and open up. So yes people aren't respecting that her opening up, if they can't accept that she might not be able to, or is emotionally ready to do so. As most streamer has a problem with just the commentfeilds and it was part of her issues. Disregarding this and joining a bandwagon of seconrate jokes thats been spammed in the commentfeilds? Emotional scars takes time to heal and courage to display, ofc we can joke about it but when it's the same shit its kinda stale and normally people tries to state a point across when they jump a bandwagon.
Shows Dr. K is a real pro. Mira came out with full mask on and tried to play her games on Dr K, but he slipped right through it all like he always does. Shame Mira didn't get all the help she needed due to the interruption with the daughter, she really needs it considering how driven a person she is. Would have been cool to see a part 2.
The universe works in mysterious ways. Mira started crying at 27:00:00 and then Avi started crying too. By bringing Avi to the desk to console them, both Dr K's kid and Mira were distracted by the new friendships and soon both became happy again. This uplifted the mood for the rest of the stream as well. What a powerful video. Thank you Mira and Dr K for this!
I'm just waiting for the day that Asmongold gets on here, especially with his recent break from streaming and his return with a brand new mindset. He has some new videos on his second channel where he shares his thoughts and it's very interesting. As much as he memes on stream he seems very intellectual and self-aware.
Dude waited 15 years to play Classic WoW and cheated his own rules of the 'real experience' within a week. I'd love to hear himself actually chip away at his massive ego but he'd probably play it off as a joke.
I definitely came away from watching/listening this video, with a good deal more sympathy for Mira, than I started out with. I almost left after 20 mins, because it felt like Mira was doing a manipulative runaround, but I stuck around and it became more and more apparent why she had that approach.
a lot of narcissism, a lot of pathological behaviors is simply rooted in hurt many people with narcissistic tendencies, or manipulative are simply not bad people, but they have created mechanisms important part is willing to recognize it, just like she's willing to actually be healthy
I have "the same" effects of that type of parenting in myself, and I can 120% relate to loving trees. When she talks about them, my eyes/heart lights up in the same way.
I am really surprised by some of the comments here. In Twitch chat during the stream, the chat was really positive about the talk and about Mira. I also thought this was a really great, insightful talk and Mira seems to me like a nice, polite, normal person. It was actually really relatable to me, because I would have done the same thing Mira did, just keep asking questions :p But this gave me important realisation that I maybe won’t find “the answer” in watching hundreds of healthygamer/jordan peterson video’s, but that I need to look within myself. Thanks Mira and dr. K for this talk! :D
Same on healthygamer/ jordan peterson videos ^^ I think we need psychotherapy, or something equivalent. Working on calling my doctor & facing the fears connected with it... man it's hard I wish you find a way, you absolutely deserve it
This is it boys. I think that she's a proper raid boss. This is what we've been looking for, no? Tough nut to crack. Strong WIL stat and mental resistance. A formidable challenge. I personally find it entertaining to see Dr.K deal with her, as uncomfortable it had been for me to watch this clip. This stream also shed some light on things I never really knew about, like bits and pieces about Dr.K's past.
She parries any personal question better than fucking Sekiro. To me this was more frustrating than uncomfortable after a while because it's just completely detached and hypotheticals that go in circles.
I don't think she was actively trying to deflect, I think she was genuinely trying to absorb as much info as she could from Dr.K and asking questions was the best way to do that. That is probably because compared to him (in her point of view) her opinion about life and overall worth as a human being is worlds apart from each other. Every stream Dr. K seems to have life figured it out and she's not
On and off she was deflecting and also doing in other times what you're saying, trying to gather information. She thought there was some type of recipe and was left empty and flabbergasted when he did not have such and NOT only that, said there isn't such. She came as you said looking to someone who she thought had accomplished complete success/ figured out that recipe and was left with nothing. She wanted a gratifying answer and fulfillment and did not receive that the way she thought she would but instead in a different way which requires her letting go of that whip. Didn't you mention she's at the point where she Google's about her relationship...
I agree in that I don't think she was 'active' in deflection but at the same time I disagree. She was certainly deflecting in all other ways if not actively, I think this was one of those cases where the psychologist wouldn't take their own medicine if you know what I mean. In her mind, she probably saw herself as different to the other people who come on and have to cry and do this and that to make progress. She was like "hang on a sec why not skip to the finish line and ask him for all the answers", this is obviously flawed as the finish line is the journey itself. It was definitely frustrating to watch and I could totally see Dr K feeling the same way throughout trying to coax something, anything out of Mira. Hopefully, she can feel more comfortable and ready in future. One last thing, I remember Dr K. saying to "meet yourself where you are" and I think that's highly applicable to her situation. She sees herself as ahead of where she actually is in some regards and needs to take a jump back. That's just my opinion tho as a backseat therapist
I dont see why theres so much negative feedback, I think if viewers watched the whole video , they could make a reasonable judgement about this video. I think that i see Mira as obsessively compulsed with this idea of discovery with what she needs. That is the reason why she is asking all of these questions persistently in the beginning, and its not because "Mira interviews Dr k". Come on guys, theres a multitude of different situations with different explanations, and its a little bit wrong to just judge the video based on expectation of what you feel his videos should be over.
@@mikasasukasa4479 Too much logic, not enough looking within? Welcome to us high IQ people, that run 100km/h from the trauma we internally feel we can't ever overcome. P.S.: I realized I just described a typical gamer ^^
I feel like my family situation and some traumas I share with her and this felt like dr. k speaking to me in a way. Def a lot I needed to hear in this so thanks for the video. Also after doing the meditation I felt almost numb for a moment, but then I felt more cheerful than I usually am. Im def doing that more lol
Why do things badly? One reason is it gives us awareness in more areas. It gives us more tools to deal with a problem. There is the quantity of tools one has vs. the skill or quality of using a tool, or even of the quality and ability of the tool itself. The issue is finding the balance between optimizing existing variables or tools vs. discovering new variables or tools one can play with. For doing something badly, we can come across unexpected results which widens our perspective. In doing something bad, we are forced into a new situation and problem(s), leading us to likely search in different areas. This can then lead to a new tool.
Damn, what really hit me was turning down the bad emotions turns down all with the radio analogy, and that made me realise i surpress all my emotions and made sense as to why i feel more anxious lately when ive been trying to lsiten to myself more
Thanks for this video Dr. K and Mira, this was among the most directly-relatable conversations I have seen about the subject of purpose and pleasure. As a schizoid + INFJ I recognize many of the issues and cognitive processes that Mira spoke of and displayed, and it really helped me to connect with your train of thought by identifying with hers. I don't Twitch or use social media in general, so I know nothing of Mira's story beyond what she revealed here and a few shitposts in the comments, but I would genuinely like to have heard more of her perspective on her social media controversies and the points of view they revolve around- we only learn something new about a topic if we dare to look at it from a different angle or wider view, but that too often is perceived as a threat to cherished misconceptions and leads to the messenger being shot down by the very people who might have benefitted if they had only been willing to hear and consider different ideas- I've experienced that kind of alienation and futility my entire life in various forms, and I can empathize with Mira's lack of enthusiasm for discussing it and for her need to protect her privacy and that of others for whatever her reasons are. I also recognize her reticence and difficulty with feelings as likely a result of early and possibly chronic attachment issues due to emotionally neglectful, demanding, and controlling caretakers who didn't validate her as a person, much like my own history. Her description of her visual imagery during the meditation also stood out as a common characteristic, and I hope she learns to follow and interpret the symbolism and the concepts and feelings behind them- the symbolism of a bolt plugging the third eye and reaching through the hole where it was removed is powerful and significant language. This was a beautiful interview and Mira is a beautiful person with a fascinating mind, and I hope she was helped as much by this as I was. Thanks again Dr. K, you're crushin' it on many levels.
Holy shit I usually don't relate to a lot of your content (except the meditation things and studying parts) but this video is different. I relate so much to you and your career path and it helps me a lot reflecting about where I am right now. Thanks so much.
Note to my self: - start do imperfect decisions (no matter what, I will never be perfect) - life goals change. Do what feels right in the moment. My bachelors is what feels good right now, but it may not be what "I will do in life" - learn to tolerate bordom: exercise: stare at a wall for one hour doing nothing (not even meditating) - Inside myself there's a me with a whip, constantley telling me what I need to do: you need to study, you need to make your family happy finally, you need to achieve something special, you need to prove them wrong -I'm having a big problem with judgement by other people. Getting immune to it will free me from this embaressment and therefore free me from expectation.
Mira is honestly one of the most intelligent people I've seen on Dr. K's stream w.r.t. the logical ideas that come across in a conversation. I can really empathize with her problem of wanting to someone to tell her the answer: this is almost always the easiest path to take. She is clearly extremely practiced in this, and the frightening part is that she's able to direct the conversation subtly. I think a lot of the way she talks to people is just something that's conditioned in her head and is a defence mechanism, a way of keeping her comfortable. Even in her own mind it seems like she takes everything very logically, which ends up in a deflective conversation because, even to herself, she's never wrestled with any of the trauma of her past beyond looking at it objectively.
Funny is I feel exactly like Mira. I'm right now in a long term relationship and even if it's quite good. I still feel my happiest moments were alone in nature or helping people. Also with the searching for external answers and trying to find "perfection". Probably we would score the same in a personality test :D
I didn't look at comments until after the video, and was surprised to see so many people who were annoyed. I suppose it's much easier for me to feel understanding instead of frustrated toward Mira because her analytical mindset and worries about psychopathy/sociopathy are very relatable to me. I don't know any of the controversy in her past, but my impression based on only this conversation was very positive.
To everyone saying she comes off as not very genuine, yea no shit.. If the internet shit on me for years I'd be reluctant to open up as well. It's unfortunate to see that even in dr K's community there is such a large % of people unable too look past their own bias towards someone. I've never liked Mira but I think the interview was absolutely amazing and a lot of the issues she's had in the past make a lot more sense now. I think she has a lot of work to do but is definitely not a bad person.
Dr K: I dropped her off 11 hours later I was half expecting Mira to say “...and how did you feel about that?” I relate to her conversationalist avoidance.
That was a great show. I wanted to see cause Mira is rarely on anything outside of her stream and I know of her from the day. But I didn't expect to learn so much about myself and draw so much from it. I took so many notes of my own and emotions and feelings I need to process! Boosh!
@Chris Johnson She didn't dump her model bf, but she has a black and white idea of success; anything less than perfect means failure. So it makes sense that she could apply it to her partners and dump them because staying with them would be "settling" and thus failure
is the dislikes just because its mira? whatever the past, I believe its good shes reaching out to DR.k to better herself. What else should she do? Thumbs up.
I think it's because many people saw Mira as insincere and therefore felt as if a lot of her statements were fabricated, but i think that it's just that it is somewhat hard to tell with Mira, but kudos to her for at least seeking help from Dr. K
@@Nicolaiwt1 she's infamous for instigating drama and being abusive, manipulative etc to another streamer she dated a long time ago that's why most old twitch viewers do not like her.
I don't think she actually being genuine here, could be just me though, I don't know this woman, and I do resonate with some stuff she says, but there is this little voice inside me that says she is not being genuine. Still a helpful conversation!
I see where you're coming from, but this is exactly what makes this video so interesting to me because a lot of the things they talk about give us insight into exactly this. Being genuine is not as easy as it sounds for everybody and for good reason. If you keep in mind that this is a person who seems to be used to keeping face, keeping up expectations and keeping up appearance at all times and probably since forever (for her parents, for her peers, for her audience, etc.) then it's not surprising that she could have trouble appearing genuine... but that doesn't mean that's not "her".
From what she's saying, her background and reputation, she is not allowed to speak her mind freely, she literally can't be herself. Her parents, haters on the internet have silenced her and she can't even be herself anymore.
@@ksng767 True that is def part of it, and I can relate, so maybe that's why I feel as there is a part missing, because I know what it's like so this ain't the full story. The thing is though, and this is hard to explain, she is asking questions to redirect the attention away from her and create a distance, also the questions she asks, aren't really questions, because she knows the answers, she;s asking them for a diff reason. My reason would have been to make the psychiatrist feel good about himself by engaging with him. But Dr. K also felt this, and this is not something u can fix within 1 session. I pray she will find her true self someday, as I recognize this behaviour and it leads down a very dark path I've been walking for the past 10 years.
I think she is being geuine with what she says but she is certainly hiding or deflecting. If we think of EGO vs Confidence and one of her big issues is not being confident in herself then shes going to have that mask up.
I came into this talk not really knowing Mira or whatever drama she was involved in the past, and after 2 hours of stream, I left feeling more hollow inside.
I wonder myself. I think its a mixture of whatever drama she was involved in the past as well as a large section of the community having preconceived notions of any female guest.
Constantly looking for validation from outside sources, sucks. Thats me. I totally get her. Its codependency at its finest. Hopefully she has learned to take her own power back and learned that she doesnt need the worlds validation to be happy.
Me: I should be studying My brain: But I don't wanna and also Dr. K only mentioned many 20-30 min videos turning into hours. Me: I'll just watch 2 hours of Dr. K then My brain: That's the spirit Me: Listening to Dr. K telling me to watch a wall for an hour. My brain: Hell, no. Preceeds to think about watching a wall.
Thank you, ur videos help me a lot, especially this one, it help me grow and getting understand myself more ^^ I don’t believe in coincidence but lucky RUclips recommended this.
For pushing yourself, I think you only need a little bit in order to start something. Excessively pushing oneself is counterproductive in terms of restricting one's ability to think creatively and find much better solutions, unlike being narrowly focused in pushing oneself continuously.
I am very conscious. My issue is that I am living with people that cannot handle me being perfect and so I need to “dumb” myself down to be imperfect in order to deal with the general masses. In order words, I have to cockblock my growth because of the masses who would get triggered if I truly want to change and truly change. The world needs to first change to allow me to change. People might think I’m just being delusional but I’m likely not. Most of my issues in life are caused by being too aware of the issues with others are thus having to dumb down to their level/ energies to deal with them. As much as I want to unlimited myself, people cannot handle it. and so my whole life since young was never to grow but to be bottlenecked by an incompetent society in essence. I mean I don’t think I’m perfect but it seems like most people are way below the mark for even being a normal human being to begin with. and if people don’t want to change, society cannot progress. No man is an island and so we can never progress if they are people not wanting to change. We would be bottlenecked by them ultimately.
I know that no one is truly better than me because everyone is just essentially the same in essence. It’s just probably if they are wiser, than it might be so in terms of knowledge. In fact, a lot of the people that are famous for doing what they do are not even good. They are just lucky to be there. I can even be like them and even better and want to be like them but then when I do it, people hate on me for it. and so, I feel like it likely is a karmic thing and it’s not that I’m lousy. I’m just probably unfortunate with my karma.
man... the more i see this, i think psychatrists and psychotherapists that just sit there with their checklist, throwing meds at people depending on the checklist should not be allowed to practice their profession...
actually i have more clear answer in general it is harder for females to recognize how social programming affect their lives and/or do something about it and the reason is that it is natural thing, like a program code in female's body and brain that is essential for survival of humanity think about this
@@__ash13__ there's nothing to think about and Men are horribly suffering from suicide because of b******* societal expectations etc that are not f****** genetic or intrinsic or all these other memes if that's what you meant by sprinkling in the word natural ?😂😂😂 then again the Kappa must signify trolling..
Do you (viewers) also sometimes feel the need to hit pause and play some game? (For me it's chess) Have you noticed what is being talked about in the video when you want to pause?
I think Dr. K needs to have a talk with the audience about their issues with relating to others in these interviews, it happens with men as well but especially the women. They are very dismissive about anything that they bring up, and already start the interviews waiting for the interviewee to win them over instead of being more open to what they say.
@@user-vl2ju3dd2d Flicking through the comments, and (regrettably) knowing a great deal about the drama she has had with Trainwreckz, Mitch, and Reckful in the past while trying to remain as unbiased as possible; I can tell you that it is absolutely both. It's very, very cringe, but predominantly disheartening to look at. And it's bemusing mostly because the default dismissive attitude that some of these people assume in response to her probably exacerbates the negative aspects of her personality.
As an individual who has been doing psychotherapy for quite some years, all I have to say is this: listen and follow the advice. It was that simple in my case.
wow, this was the most frustrating interview i have watched so far. she seemed so resistant to reflect on anything within herself and kept looking outward for answers and solutions.
The best part about this is when Mira spoke about how people on the internet can get a false notion and gang up on you and try to ruin your name which he said sounded awful and it really is, look at what the internet and the media try to do to people like pewdiepie and Jordan Peterson - it can easily happen and the answer would be to don't let them fool you, know what the truth is and put faith in people to know that they are wrong.
They both did that to themselves being f****** idiotic jackasses. Not only that PewDiePie is perfectly fine and in fact has no problem weaponizing his community of millions upon millions of people it doesn't give a f*** about the repercussions of that and how that cripples them who are not financially successful socially successful or anything else in can't even take a fraction of what he takes, mind you he brings a lot of that on..😂😂 and apparently Jordan Peterson was the case of a doctor or whatever type of medicine he was taking that led to something and isn't addicted so they want to say 😂 when you have that big a platform as PewDiePie and say stupid f****** atrocious s***, of course people come for you because you have a major responsibility whether you want to acknowledge it or not based on the crazy amount of Outreach you have an influence. So sure there's plenty of mistreatment, but no he brung most of that s*** on which depending on your level of mental capacity either he's done nothing wrong or you downplay everything because you're such a die-hard fan which I wouldn't be surprised doing Jordan Peterson memes, or you can see that stuff which I don't think is the case😂😂 notice Jordan Peterson never says anything he f****** says and have some way to backpedal or lead you to the conclusion that just falls on being a racist sexist transphobe idiot etc etc. And yes I have proof of all of that but again you don't care for such I'm guessing and play mental gymnastics but if somebody was on the opposing side of whatever your ideology is, I guarantee you would not let them off the hook. And I guess to be clear when it comes to being racist, you probably do the meme where you pretend you have to be a literal Clan member or want to exterminate group x y and z. The context I'm using is denying and downplaying racial Injustice in particularly police brutality and other things across the board which is interesting for a psychologist isn't he? 😂😂😂 she should understand basic sociology terms and the different ways they manifest but can't seem to think privilege isn't a thing.. he sat there weaponizing the c16 bill and now idiots to this day still think it is some type of thing you're going to jail for etc etc
@@InnerLightGuns I know that comment looks like a raging homeless man's fever dream.. but there are actually a lot of good points in there. I know it's instinctive and easy to dismiss it as a whole because of its form, but I would implore you to step over that initial (justified) emotional response and see what the criticism behind the crying laughing emojis is.
I feel Mira is looking for a fix for her and her life. There is one thing one desicion and once I've made it I'm better the task is done. She also seems have a high archiver mindset which would come with alot of analysis of how to do the given task better. I've been struggling and holding myself in place for the last two to three years doing mainly the first point I've made. To be honest it's been a terrible experience so much indecision in my day to day life is this right should I do this should I do that. It's maddening.
Girl being interviewed. Most importantly a pretty girl, the audience comes in with preconceived notions that pretty girls don't have issues, or issues that she does talk about the audience doesn't think its a big deal bc at the end of the day she's a pretty girl on twitch and can get away with things. So many in the comments won't even give it a chance, saying I can't get through it, she's disingenuous, i can't trust her, etc etc. I mean so many guys in previous interviews were incredibly disingenuous and closed off and through the interview they slowly share more and more and it becomes a more productive talk.
@@NeonKodiak This doesn't really have much to do with Mira being a girl, but rather her history on the internet. Her attractiveness also plays little role in why people hate her, so it seems pretty silly to even bring that up, unless you're refering to the biggest of incels. Her, Byron and Mitch all have their haters for how much high-school drama they got into back in the day, and wherever Mira went, drama soon followed. Plenty of people within the twitch space warned Mitch that she's highly manipulative and pretty crazy, which lead to Mitch being even more of an asshole to his stream and his friends. In a lot of ways she's ruined a lot of friendships on twitch, so you can't really say that the hatred people feel towards her isn't alright. There's a reason why Reckful, Mitch and Mira all appeared on Dr K's stream, it's because their past relationships were that bad.
@@NeonKodiak Seems like you're creating your own narrative here. She came to show not knowing what to talk about. You have to have an issue to discuss when you apply for a session. You can see her staring at herself on the screen and posing to appear as attractive as possible. She has a track record for disregarding and manipulating others for her own benefit. These should all be red flags regardless of the person, and they're rational reasons to feel uncomfortable with her and this conversation. Please chill with the, "It's because she's a beautiful!"
@@calebcooksey4390 I don't know if you realise what you're saying, but you're pretty much the type of person he's speaking of. "You can see her staring at herself on the screen and posing to appear as attractive as possible" - eh, I did not think of that once? And it's natural for people to try and look good when they see themselves on camera, so why the hate towards her for it?
Basically she dosent understand that everything is relative, that nothing is set in stone, that none of it has some kind of base. Everything is baseless we are just building meanings on other meanings and conecting stuff in some way, but it's all hanging in the air. And you may be thinking how does this help me? It should tell you that you are not meant to do anything, you are not suppose to be anything.
Not sure why Thumbnails aren't working T_T
posting them here as well:
00:35 intro
6:50 What growing up was like, model of success
12:01 Dr. K's career path, unique paths
21:30 identity
28:34 asking Dr. K questions, drawing conclusions from questions
38:34 reaching a "Final form"
52:50 meditation studies, how it helps
55:15 Takeaways, expectations, loving who you are
1:06:21 What it means to be the true self
1:12:05 harsh criticism
1:19:40 how to stand up for yourself
1:23:45 What happened on Twitch
1:30:30 psychopathy and sociopathy
1:33:30 AYAYA- skip no content here
1:39:30 Processing emotions
1:50:00 Meditation
2:00:20 closing thoughts, announcements
You need to have a timestamp on 0:00 for it to work. You can put intro as 0:00 for example
@@theoofsweden most dope, thank you theoofsweden
Putting time stamps is a great idea.
@@HealthyGamerGG No problem :^)
“AYAYA no content here”? Biggest lie ever
I've literally seen all interviews since the start of healthy gamer and this one was the toughest to watch. I had to take multiple breaks because I kept getting overwhelmed - it felt like watching myself go on stream. The most interesting experience was at 1:27:04 where I was completely focused on Dr. K's face and burst out crying after what he said and then 10 seconds later I noticed she had as well. There's something so heartbreaking about your ego hijacking your intellect to protect you but instead leading you to more and more pain. Thank you to both.
I agree. I relate in a way to some of the guests but this one takes the cake.
"There's no right answer, there's only the best answer u can make today" that's so true
As a person that has consumed a lot of Dr K content this year, I really appreciate this episode with Mira. Very much relatable questions and situations. I learned that I should not constantly strive for an even more perfect and happy version of my self, but try to find happiness in my current self. I have this problem where I am working toward some future where I am happy, but I need to "check the boxes" to get to that point, much like Mira. I need to try to find and notice happiness in the present.
It frustrates me that so many hit the dislike button. Why?
It's mostly just because she's Mitch's ex and there was an extremely negative picture painted of her after their breakup. I don't personally care about her in a negative or positive way, I just kinda know how people perceive her because of this.
What has always helped me is to find happiness in all the little things in life. Sometimes people think that being happy is about having the perfect life and being the perfect person, but that causes them to look at all the negative things in their life that is robbing them from that goal because no one is perfect. When you look at all the little things that make you happy or appreciative, it shifts your focus to the positive things in your life. Fun story, when I was a kid my mom used to always tell me that she would find happiness in falling leaves and other little things like that. When I was in college, I was walking to class one day and saw leaves falling from a bunch of trees. I only stopped for a few seconds to admire the beauty of falling leaves and the gentle breeze, but I was... happy and at peace, even with all the college stresses and whatnot. And the more I noticed those situations as life continued, I realized that all the little things that I do or experience every day makes me happy like those falling leaves. And that is the me NOW. And it gave me comfort to know that the me in the future, no matter what he's going through, will still have the little things in life to keep me happy.
@@RadiantStorm666 thats beautiful - what a nice thing for your mom to teach you
@@brennanjay4158 Oh wow thanks, I forgot that I had made this comment last year haha. A year later and I'm still finding happiness in the little things. I hope everyone can find their own happiness in their own way.
@@RadiantStorm666 that reminds me of how only 1 week or so after my friend perpetrated a murder-suicide and i was deep in the throws of deep grief and trauma response, i walked into my work building and saw all the Christmas decorations had been put up, and I noticed myself feeling a moment of joy and happiness at the fun and the prettiness of it, and I was surprised in my deep sadness and hurt how i could still feel such positive emotion over such little things too. It almost felt like those things worked to bring me way more happiness when I'm starting from such a low place than they normally would've, and i felt grateful and glad i could still feel happiness over little things. I felt hopeful maybe for myself despite the psychological wound in me not being healed yet.
Every VOD I watch, I wait till he says "Now let's think about that for a second"
i like it better when he says let me think about that for a second and then he pauses and looks at the roof for 20 seconds
i wish i could do that in the middle of conversation
@@MrFelshy you can. I've started doing it in conversation because of Dr. K and it's made me more confident when I speak
31:20 you're welcome
It's fucking tremendous
Can i think for a second?
At first I was getting really frustrated, feeling like she didn't get the answers "right" - and then i realized I was getting frustrated because I'm so much like Mira. Got so much out of this talk, tysm
Good job, same
Exactly
No, you weren't getting frustrated because you are like her, she was just painful to listen to. Us monke don't like the unknown, and listening to an hour+ of her avoiding questions at all costs
I'm genuinely surprised because I did not expect to have as much in common with mira as I feel as though I do. I also did not expect the topic of this conversation to be about something that I've been struggling with myself for quite some time now
The beginning is like watching a jedi padawan psychologist going against a sith lord psychologist
'Good,... good,... let the questions flow through you...'
..... Which is the sith lord?
2:07 oh wow. She was raised to think there is a formula to success. So, she has realized that the formula she was given isn't for her, or even absolute. Now, she is looking to Dr. K to receive this formula. Dr. K isn't trying to give her a formula however. I know all i'm doing is receiving what he is trying to convey to her, but damn it is fascinating.
Yeah that was interesting, and I love that Dr. K usually waits 30 minutes more to spot this pattern in their (and others) conversation. Like it becomes so potent.
I'm just gonna copy paste a comment I responded to someone with. I think a lot of people here are getting confused what the essence of HealthyGamer is, but I'm just gonna give my take on it
"I think you're coming in with the wrong presumpton with a lot of these videos. These streams aren't meant to be dedicated to "helping all video gamers' and their problems", its about trying to understand other people's problems and how problems from the past can form adaptive/maladaptive behaviours that affect others years down the line. I feel like its more of an education to understand all types of people, and better appreciate what the human mind can do, both good and bad.
I sense (only viewing from your comment alone), a whole lot of frustration about your problems, and I almost feel as though the streams that you've been watching, and the "help" that you're seeking by watching these videos will somehow create a 'light bulb / eureka' moment, and that's usually not gonna entirely solve your case. As stated from his streams, Knowledge surrounding your problems is step 1, self-realization is step 2, step 3 is from you, that's implementing action. Dr. K can only go so far to help viewers identify and self-actualize, but it comes down to you to do something about it. I believe he hopes that the self-actualization will give enough motivation or an understanding about themselves that they can actually grapple with so that they can go and seek relevant, necessary help (whether that may be seeking an actual therapist/psychologist, or implementing interventions via meditation+introspection; then again thats what I believe what the AoE healing ultimately aims for)"
Shit I think this is probably a pretty good analysis of why half the community gets so mad at certain interviews. I also don't think it's a coincidence that every interview they hate happens to be with a woman, but I bet it's a combination of that and them expecting a video to solve their problems but they don't feel that way when it's someone they can't perfectly relate to.
@@NageekNoohac YES, the moment its someone they already have preconceived notions of and they can't completely relate to they go against the problems the interviewee's present, instead they try to poke holes at ideas, assume the worst and minimize the issues they're dealing with.
I mean almost all of the issues people deal with in these interviews are small in the grand scheme of things, but for those going through it its tough to deal with and they might need guidance to look at things a different way.
@@NageekNoohac 100% this
Good answer
@@NeonKodiak lol I kind of hope that lashing out at Dr. K for interviewing women is its own kind of therapy and eventually they'll realize that the point of his stream is that all feelings are valid and they have to be understood for people to ever feel better (rather than just suppressed and blamed on people they don't like getting interviewed on an internet therapy show's comments section/chat *cough*) but I guess we'll see
when she asked "without the whip would there be movement?" it was such an eerie smart thought
38:12 Lmao Dr. K trying not to smile here
"this isn't even my final form" is 100% what went through his head
*maybe
Thank you very much for this stream, I really relate to her, especially part with asking questions and expecting other to have answers for me. I've always felt inferior to others and had this false perception that other people know better than me. So whatever I thought or done is wrong by default. Listening to this conversation made me realize a few things.
Alternative title: "Mira interviews Dr. K."
Alternative alternative title: "Mira interviews Mira while Dr.K tries to referee"
cmon this is a place for understanding and healing, not to ridicule someones trauma or sensitivity.
@@sa-eedsiraj1711 I never said this was exclusivly ridicule, I also said it was a place for understanding and healing. So back to that point. Read in to it abit, these kind of comments was placed furthest up and it wasn't one of them. Read into it regarding her mentalstate and what the context is about. These things insinuates things for someone trying to be vulnerable and open up. So yes people aren't respecting that her opening up, if they can't accept that she might not be able to, or is emotionally ready to do so. As most streamer has a problem with just the commentfeilds and it was part of her issues. Disregarding this and joining a bandwagon of seconrate jokes thats been spammed in the commentfeilds? Emotional scars takes time to heal and courage to display, ofc we can joke about it but when it's the same shit its kinda stale and normally people tries to state a point across when they jump a bandwagon.
Snarky but true for the first half, not for the second half of the interview.
Twitch's attention span ^^
Shows Dr. K is a real pro. Mira came out with full mask on and tried to play her games on Dr K, but he slipped right through it all like he always does. Shame Mira didn't get all the help she needed due to the interruption with the daughter, she really needs it considering how driven a person she is. Would have been cool to see a part 2.
Looking at Miras twitch stream now 3 years later, I really dont think she wants help. Attention more. Whole interview was tough to watch.
The universe works in mysterious ways. Mira started crying at 27:00:00 and then Avi started crying too. By bringing Avi to the desk to console them, both Dr K's kid and Mira were distracted by the new friendships and soon both became happy again. This uplifted the mood for the rest of the stream as well. What a powerful video. Thank you Mira and Dr K for this!
27:00:00???
What are you talking about with that time code lol?
1:33:00
@@VioletEmeraldshe must be in a different time zone
She seems so ashamed of something, as if she has a deep dark secret. I’ve never seen someone deflect so persistently.
there are some rumors about her in russia
It probably became a habit or defensive mechanism bcos she gets a lot of hate in the internet
It has too be something with her family i think there scary people
Aren’t we all?
@@НатанСквирский tell me more
Man Dr.K is being so caring here, especially at 1:27:30 onward, it's really touching
I'm just waiting for the day that Asmongold gets on here, especially with his recent break from streaming and his return with a brand new mindset. He has some new videos on his second channel where he shares his thoughts and it's very interesting. As much as he memes on stream he seems very intellectual and self-aware.
I don't follow him but I recognize him, what's up with him?
@MASKOFZEN LOL
I live for that moment
Dude waited 15 years to play Classic WoW and cheated his own rules of the 'real experience' within a week. I'd love to hear himself actually chip away at his massive ego but he'd probably play it off as a joke.
Trueeeee let's get Asmon in here
I definitely came away from watching/listening this video, with a good deal more sympathy for Mira, than I started out with. I almost left after 20 mins, because it felt like Mira was doing a manipulative runaround, but I stuck around and it became more and more apparent why she had that approach.
a lot of narcissism, a lot of pathological behaviors is simply rooted in hurt
many people with narcissistic tendencies, or manipulative are simply not bad people, but they have created mechanisms
important part is willing to recognize it, just like she's willing to actually be healthy
I have "the same" effects of that type of parenting in myself, and I can 120% relate to loving trees.
When she talks about them, my eyes/heart lights up in the same way.
I am really surprised by some of the comments here. In Twitch chat during the stream, the chat was really positive about the talk and about Mira. I also thought this was a really great, insightful talk and Mira seems to me like a nice, polite, normal person.
It was actually really relatable to me, because I would have done the same thing Mira did, just keep asking questions :p But this gave me important realisation that I maybe won’t find “the answer” in watching hundreds of healthygamer/jordan peterson video’s, but that I need to look within myself.
Thanks Mira and dr. K for this talk! :D
Yes and also whipping yourself
Same on healthygamer/ jordan peterson videos ^^
I think we need psychotherapy, or something equivalent. Working on calling my doctor & facing the fears connected with it... man it's hard
I wish you find a way, you absolutely deserve it
Praying that you’ve gotten off the JBP by now. 🙏🏼
This is it boys. I think that she's a proper raid boss. This is what we've been looking for, no? Tough nut to crack. Strong WIL stat and mental resistance. A formidable challenge.
I personally find it entertaining to see Dr.K deal with her, as uncomfortable it had been for me to watch this clip. This stream also shed some light on things I never really knew about, like bits and pieces about Dr.K's past.
She parries any personal question better than fucking Sekiro. To me this was more frustrating than uncomfortable after a while because it's just completely detached and hypotheticals that go in circles.
This was so helpful. Especially the question what do you want. That question paralyzes me too.
I don't think she was actively trying to deflect, I think she was genuinely trying to absorb as much info as she could from Dr.K and asking questions was the best way to do that. That is probably because compared to him (in her point of view) her opinion about life and overall worth as a human being is worlds apart from each other. Every stream Dr. K seems to have life figured it out and she's not
On and off she was deflecting and also doing in other times what you're saying, trying to gather information. She thought there was some type of recipe and was left empty and flabbergasted when he did not have such and NOT only that, said there isn't such. She came as you said looking to someone who she thought had accomplished complete success/ figured out that recipe and was left with nothing. She wanted a gratifying answer and fulfillment and did not receive that the way she thought she would but instead in a different way which requires her letting go of that whip. Didn't you mention she's at the point where she Google's about her relationship...
I agree in that I don't think she was 'active' in deflection but at the same time I disagree. She was certainly deflecting in all other ways if not actively, I think this was one of those cases where the psychologist wouldn't take their own medicine if you know what I mean. In her mind, she probably saw herself as different to the other people who come on and have to cry and do this and that to make progress. She was like "hang on a sec why not skip to the finish line and ask him for all the answers", this is obviously flawed as the finish line is the journey itself. It was definitely frustrating to watch and I could totally see Dr K feeling the same way throughout trying to coax something, anything out of Mira. Hopefully, she can feel more comfortable and ready in future. One last thing, I remember Dr K. saying to "meet yourself where you are" and I think that's highly applicable to her situation. She sees herself as ahead of where she actually is in some regards and needs to take a jump back. That's just my opinion tho as a backseat therapist
This statement is wrong
I dont see why theres so much negative feedback, I think if viewers watched the whole video , they could make a reasonable judgement about this video. I think that i see Mira as obsessively compulsed with this idea of discovery with what she needs. That is the reason why she is asking all of these questions persistently in the beginning, and its not because "Mira interviews Dr k". Come on guys, theres a multitude of different situations with different explanations, and its a little bit wrong to just judge the video based on expectation of what you feel his videos should be over.
too much logic and not enough looking within with mira. i can see why people reacted the way they did thats not important
@@mikasasukasa4479 that's what I'm trying to say lol
@@mikasasukasa4479 Too much logic, not enough looking within?
Welcome to us high IQ people, that run 100km/h from the trauma we internally feel we can't ever overcome. P.S.: I realized I just described a typical gamer ^^
This is one of the best ones. I can relate so much to both Dr. K and Mira at the same time
omg dr k please dont stop. I need this videos. Thank you for all your help.
Watching Dr.K's expression when they have a breakthrough is great, I now know what football fans feel like when their team scores
I feel like my family situation and some traumas I share with her and this felt like dr. k speaking to me in a way. Def a lot I needed to hear in this so thanks for the video. Also after doing the meditation I felt almost numb for a moment, but then I felt more cheerful than I usually am. Im def doing that more lol
Why do things badly? One reason is it gives us awareness in more areas. It gives us more tools to deal with a problem. There is the quantity of tools one has vs. the skill or quality of using a tool, or even of the quality and ability of the tool itself. The issue is finding the balance between optimizing existing variables or tools vs. discovering new variables or tools one can play with.
For doing something badly, we can come across unexpected results which widens our perspective. In doing something bad, we are forced into a new situation and problem(s), leading us to likely search in different areas. This can then lead to a new tool.
Damn, what really hit me was turning down the bad emotions turns down all with the radio analogy, and that made me realise i surpress all my emotions and made sense as to why i feel more anxious lately when ive been trying to lsiten to myself more
47:16 "it felt so right that i was gonna be this spiritually enlighted master one day"
well, you are
Her father is a powerful and rich Russian politician, its no wonder why she thinks the way she does.
Being superior with no emotion, Napoleon , Crime and punishment
Very very very interesting conversation to watch unfold. Totally enjoyed it, thanks Dr. K.
It's a bit sad to see so many in the comments that could still be clinging to drama and vicarious animosity
Thanks for this video Dr. K and Mira, this was among the most directly-relatable conversations I have seen about the subject of purpose and pleasure. As a schizoid + INFJ I recognize many of the issues and cognitive processes that Mira spoke of and displayed, and it really helped me to connect with your train of thought by identifying with hers. I don't Twitch or use social media in general, so I know nothing of Mira's story beyond what she revealed here and a few shitposts in the comments, but I would genuinely like to have heard more of her perspective on her social media controversies and the points of view they revolve around- we only learn something new about a topic if we dare to look at it from a different angle or wider view, but that too often is perceived as a threat to cherished misconceptions and leads to the messenger being shot down by the very people who might have benefitted if they had only been willing to hear and consider different ideas- I've experienced that kind of alienation and futility my entire life in various forms, and I can empathize with Mira's lack of enthusiasm for discussing it and for her need to protect her privacy and that of others for whatever her reasons are. I also recognize her reticence and difficulty with feelings as likely a result of early and possibly chronic attachment issues due to emotionally neglectful, demanding, and controlling caretakers who didn't validate her as a person, much like my own history. Her description of her visual imagery during the meditation also stood out as a common characteristic, and I hope she learns to follow and interpret the symbolism and the concepts and feelings behind them- the symbolism of a bolt plugging the third eye and reaching through the hole where it was removed is powerful and significant language.
This was a beautiful interview and Mira is a beautiful person with a fascinating mind, and I hope she was helped as much by this as I was. Thanks again Dr. K, you're crushin' it on many levels.
She's so good articulated. I'm in aw
Holy shit I usually don't relate to a lot of your content (except the meditation things and studying parts) but this video is different. I relate so much to you and your career path and it helps me a lot reflecting about where I am right now. Thanks so much.
Note to my self: - start do imperfect decisions (no matter what, I will never be perfect)
- life goals change. Do what feels right in the moment. My bachelors is what feels good right now, but it may not be what "I will do in life"
- learn to tolerate bordom: exercise: stare at a wall for one hour doing nothing (not even meditating)
- Inside myself there's a me with a whip, constantley telling me what I need to do: you need to study, you need to make your family happy finally, you need to achieve something special, you need to prove them wrong
-I'm having a big problem with judgement by other people. Getting immune to it will free me from this embaressment and therefore free me from expectation.
58:50
Mira is honestly one of the most intelligent people I've seen on Dr. K's stream w.r.t. the logical ideas that come across in a conversation. I can really empathize with her problem of wanting to someone to tell her the answer: this is almost always the easiest path to take. She is clearly extremely practiced in this, and the frightening part is that she's able to direct the conversation subtly. I think a lot of the way she talks to people is just something that's conditioned in her head and is a defence mechanism, a way of keeping her comfortable. Even in her own mind it seems like she takes everything very logically, which ends up in a deflective conversation because, even to herself, she's never wrestled with any of the trauma of her past beyond looking at it objectively.
Funny is I feel exactly like Mira. I'm right now in a long term relationship and even if it's quite good. I still feel my happiest moments were alone in nature or helping people. Also with the searching for external answers and trying to find "perfection". Probably we would score the same in a personality test :D
I didn't look at comments until after the video, and was surprised to see so many people who were annoyed. I suppose it's much easier for me to feel understanding instead of frustrated toward Mira because her analytical mindset and worries about psychopathy/sociopathy are very relatable to me. I don't know any of the controversy in her past, but my impression based on only this conversation was very positive.
I connect with her so much
Same omg
To everyone saying she comes off as not very genuine, yea no shit.. If the internet shit on me for years I'd be reluctant to open up as well.
It's unfortunate to see that even in dr K's community there is such a large % of people unable too look past their own bias towards someone. I've never liked Mira but I think the interview was absolutely amazing and a lot of the issues she's had in the past make a lot more sense now. I think she has a lot of work to do but is definitely not a bad person.
It's not about being reluctant to open up. It's that she seems deceitful and manipulative.
Dr K: I dropped her off 11 hours later
I was half expecting Mira to say “...and how did you feel about that?”
I relate to her conversationalist avoidance.
43:39 "I got a lot of happiness from letting go of perfection."
This was the one for me. Thank you so much mr k. Doing the lords work ;p
Please continue your work online, you are helping so much to me and i belive that is true for many others to. Great work ....
1:28:58 "this is one of the battles i cannot win"
utterly heartbreaking
1:28:43
That was a great show. I wanted to see cause Mira is rarely on anything outside of her stream and I know of her from the day. But I didn't expect to learn so much about myself and draw so much from it. I took so many notes of my own and emotions and feelings I need to process! Boosh!
i feel Dr K was little annoyed or frustrated in this interview.. she did not let him in not one bit...
Happiness is not something that can be chased, it’s something that’s found. Hit me.
1:46:52 Dr K: 'Let me just tie things up for you'
Mira: *Proceeds to tie her hair*
How about that...
Imagined getting dumped because you were only the 99% ideal partner and she didn't want to 'settle'
*mindblown*
@Chris Johnson She didn't dump her model bf, but she has a black and white idea of success; anything less than perfect means failure.
So it makes sense that she could apply it to her partners and dump them because staying with them would be "settling" and thus failure
I really hoped you watched the whole interview, especially around 1:25:00 onward, really enlightening to behaviour
is the dislikes just because its mira? whatever the past, I believe its good shes reaching out to DR.k to better herself. What else should she do? Thumbs up.
Yeah, I too want to know why people dislike her...
I think it's because many people saw Mira as insincere and therefore felt as if a lot of her statements were fabricated, but i think that it's just that it is somewhat hard to tell with Mira, but kudos to her for at least seeking help from Dr. K
@@Nicolaiwt1 she's infamous for instigating drama and being abusive, manipulative etc to another streamer she dated a long time ago that's why most old twitch viewers do not like her.
@@sudocyka Yeah, I am caught up on the drama of her, but i'd like to think that she has changed at least
@@Nicolaiwt1 Same here but after watching that i'm doubting it even more,it just wasn't genuine and came off as an act.
I don't think she actually being genuine here, could be just me though, I don't know this woman, and I do resonate with some stuff she says, but there is this little voice inside me that says she is not being genuine. Still a helpful conversation!
I see where you're coming from, but this is exactly what makes this video so interesting to me because a lot of the things they talk about give us insight into exactly this. Being genuine is not as easy as it sounds for everybody and for good reason. If you keep in mind that this is a person who seems to be used to keeping face, keeping up expectations and keeping up appearance at all times and probably since forever (for her parents, for her peers, for her audience, etc.) then it's not surprising that she could have trouble appearing genuine... but that doesn't mean that's not "her".
Aside from the little voice, can you point out what makes you think she's being disingenuous?
From what she's saying, her background and reputation, she is not allowed to speak her mind freely, she literally can't be herself. Her parents, haters on the internet have silenced her and she can't even be herself anymore.
@@ksng767 True that is def part of it, and I can relate, so maybe that's why I feel as there is a part missing, because I know what it's like so this ain't the full story. The thing is though, and this is hard to explain, she is asking questions to redirect the attention away from her and create a distance, also the questions she asks, aren't really questions, because she knows the answers, she;s asking them for a diff reason. My reason would have been to make the psychiatrist feel good about himself by engaging with him. But Dr. K also felt this, and this is not something u can fix within 1 session. I pray she will find her true self someday, as I recognize this behaviour and it leads down a very dark path I've been walking for the past 10 years.
I think she is being geuine with what she says but she is certainly hiding or deflecting. If we think of EGO vs Confidence and one of her big issues is not being confident in herself then shes going to have that mask up.
my god I felt how he was concerned about how she was avoiding to answer any questions "in gain of knowledge", so afraid to ask herslef honestly
I don’t get the issues people here seem to have with her. She seems very thoughtful and intelligent.
it's because all the toxic stuff that happened with mitch and her years ago
I came into this talk not really knowing Mira or whatever drama she was involved in the past, and after 2 hours of stream, I left feeling more hollow inside.
This is sooo helpful for me! Especially the question "finding the right path" resonates with me...
Whats with all the dislikes?
I wonder myself. I think its a mixture of whatever drama she was involved in the past as well as a large section of the community having preconceived notions of any female guest.
Mitch Jones and Mira drama from 4-5 years ago most likely. Tbh I have no idea on why they're still pissed about it.
now have both Mira and Mitch on the show LULW
let's not,it's gonna be a drama show.
door man we also had mizkif and maya.
is it suspicious?
tell me the story idk anything
mizkif and maya, destiny and melina, mitch and mira, who's next? xdddd
31:53 "eHEHeheheh" 😂😂
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stop lafing not fun
kinda reminded me of goku lol
@@SuperTrisset ya no laf boi
twitch really needs some education on what sociopathy/psychopathy actually is
Mira should read the Nicomachean Ethics. Her questions about happiness and her way of thinking about it are very Aristotlean.
Constantly looking for validation from outside sources, sucks. Thats me. I totally get her. Its codependency at its finest. Hopefully she has learned to take her own power back and learned that she doesnt need the worlds validation to be happy.
she could be an A-list actor, on some Angelina Jolie type stuff
Me: I should be studying
My brain: But I don't wanna and also Dr. K only mentioned many 20-30 min videos turning into hours.
Me: I'll just watch 2 hours of Dr. K then
My brain: That's the spirit
Me: Listening to Dr. K telling me to watch a wall for an hour.
My brain: Hell, no. Preceeds to think about watching a wall.
1:04:37 Dr. K trying so hard to stop himself from saying something is so funny
Thank you, ur videos help me a lot, especially this one, it help me grow and getting understand myself more ^^ I don’t believe in coincidence but lucky RUclips recommended this.
For pushing yourself, I think you only need a little bit in order to start something. Excessively pushing oneself is counterproductive in terms of restricting one's ability to think creatively and find much better solutions, unlike being narrowly focused in pushing oneself continuously.
this one was super good :O
I am very conscious. My issue is that I am living with people that cannot handle me being perfect and so I need to “dumb” myself down to be imperfect in order to deal with the general masses.
In order words, I have to cockblock my growth because of the masses who would get triggered if I truly want to change and truly change.
The world needs to first change to allow me to change.
People might think I’m just being delusional but I’m likely not. Most of my issues in life are caused by being too aware of the issues with others are thus having to dumb down to their level/ energies to deal with them. As much as I want to unlimited myself, people cannot handle it. and so my whole life since young was never to grow but to be bottlenecked by an incompetent society in essence.
I mean I don’t think I’m perfect but it seems like most people are way below the mark for even being a normal human being to begin with. and if people don’t want to change, society cannot progress. No man is an island and so we can never progress if they are people not wanting to change. We would be bottlenecked by them ultimately.
I know that no one is truly better than me because everyone is just essentially the same in essence. It’s just probably if they are wiser, than it might be so in terms of knowledge.
In fact, a lot of the people that are famous for doing what they do are not even good. They are just lucky to be there. I can even be like them and even better and want to be like them but then when I do it, people hate on me for it. and so, I feel like it likely is a karmic thing and it’s not that I’m lousy. I’m just probably unfortunate with my karma.
man... the more i see this, i think psychatrists and psychotherapists that just sit there with their checklist, throwing meds at people depending on the checklist should not be allowed to practice their profession...
This is one of the most relatable interviews so far, she is so possessed by perfection.
Is it just me or every time i hear finale form i think of dragonball ?
I'm more confused when I was already confused about my happiness and life in general
Its actually frustrating that she wont let go and just look within, keeps asking questions to deviate
when you are a normie female i guess it's not really easy to look inward
It's not easy to look within if your whole life you lived for someone else or other people.
actually i have more clear answer
in general it is harder for females to recognize how social programming affect their lives and/or do something about it
and the reason is that it is natural thing, like a program code in female's body and brain that is essential for survival of humanity
think about this
@@__ash13__ peak RUclips comment scientist here
@@__ash13__ there's nothing to think about and Men are horribly suffering from suicide because of b******* societal expectations etc that are not f****** genetic or intrinsic or all these other memes if that's what you meant by sprinkling in the word natural ?😂😂😂 then again the Kappa must signify trolling..
Do you (viewers) also sometimes feel the need to hit pause and play some game? (For me it's chess) Have you noticed what is being talked about in the video when you want to pause?
I think Dr. K needs to have a talk with the audience about their issues with relating to others in these interviews, it happens with men as well but especially the women. They are very dismissive about anything that they bring up, and already start the interviews waiting for the interviewee to win them over instead of being more open to what they say.
UraniumEffects it’s cause of mira’s past, it has nothing to do with her being a woman.
@@user-vl2ju3dd2d lil bit of column a and a lil bit of column b. there has been other male streamers with a past and didnt get the same treatment.
@@user-vl2ju3dd2d Flicking through the comments, and (regrettably) knowing a great deal about the drama she has had with Trainwreckz, Mitch, and Reckful in the past while trying to remain as unbiased as possible; I can tell you that it is absolutely both. It's very, very cringe, but predominantly disheartening to look at. And it's bemusing mostly because the default dismissive attitude that some of these people assume in response to her probably exacerbates the negative aspects of her personality.
As an individual who has been doing psychotherapy for quite some years, all I have to say is this: listen and follow the advice. It was that simple in my case.
Sorry, I actually found this casual conversation really helpful; to each their own I suppose.
I loved Dr Ks daughter..... Bless her
58:50 hits a little different.
I'd very much like to see Asmongold here, if not for anything than to just have a convo with Dr.K. I think they would have a lot of chemistry.
"I'm so sorry to hear you're stranded, that's fantastic" Hahaha
wow, this was the most frustrating interview i have watched so far. she seemed so resistant to reflect on anything within herself and kept looking outward for answers and solutions.
Yess lol i felt that so much
The best part about this is when Mira spoke about how people on the internet can get a false notion and gang up on you and try to ruin your name which he said sounded awful and it really is, look at what the internet and the media try to do to people like pewdiepie and Jordan Peterson - it can easily happen and the answer would be to don't let them fool you, know what the truth is and put faith in people to know that they are wrong.
They both did that to themselves being f****** idiotic jackasses. Not only that PewDiePie is perfectly fine and in fact has no problem weaponizing his community of millions upon millions of people it doesn't give a f*** about the repercussions of that and how that cripples them who are not financially successful socially successful or anything else in can't even take a fraction of what he takes, mind you he brings a lot of that on..😂😂 and apparently Jordan Peterson was the case of a doctor or whatever type of medicine he was taking that led to something and isn't addicted so they want to say 😂 when you have that big a platform as PewDiePie and say stupid f****** atrocious s***, of course people come for you because you have a major responsibility whether you want to acknowledge it or not based on the crazy amount of Outreach you have an influence. So sure there's plenty of mistreatment, but no he brung most of that s*** on which depending on your level of mental capacity either he's done nothing wrong or you downplay everything because you're such a die-hard fan which I wouldn't be surprised doing Jordan Peterson memes, or you can see that stuff which I don't think is the case😂😂 notice Jordan Peterson never says anything he f****** says and have some way to backpedal or lead you to the conclusion that just falls on being a racist sexist transphobe idiot etc etc. And yes I have proof of all of that but again you don't care for such I'm guessing and play mental gymnastics but if somebody was on the opposing side of whatever your ideology is, I guarantee you would not let them off the hook. And I guess to be clear when it comes to being racist, you probably do the meme where you pretend you have to be a literal Clan member or want to exterminate group x y and z. The context I'm using is denying and downplaying racial Injustice in particularly police brutality and other things across the board which is interesting for a psychologist isn't he? 😂😂😂 she should understand basic sociology terms and the different ways they manifest but can't seem to think privilege isn't a thing.. he sat there weaponizing the c16 bill and now idiots to this day still think it is some type of thing you're going to jail for etc etc
@@nyeusiknowledge4873 I don't know why you're so triggered but I'm concerned about you - seek help
@@nyeusiknowledge4873 YIKES, I HOPE YOURE ON THE LIST TO GET ON STREAM LMAO
@@InnerLightGuns I know that comment looks like a raging homeless man's fever dream.. but there are actually a lot of good points in there. I know it's instinctive and easy to dismiss it as a whole because of its form, but I would implore you to step over that initial (justified) emotional response and see what the criticism behind the crying laughing emojis is.
I feel Mira is looking for a fix for her and her life. There is one thing one desicion and once I've made it I'm better the task is done. She also seems have a high archiver mindset which would come with alot of analysis of how to do the given task better. I've been struggling and holding myself in place for the last two to three years doing mainly the first point I've made. To be honest it's been a terrible experience so much indecision in my day to day life is this right should I do this should I do that. It's maddening.
I thought this was a really good conversation, even if somewhat nontraditional. Don't get all the dislikes.
When I charged my laser and I started crying.
oh no Dr. K interviewed my inner monologue. i did not ask to be perceived today.
In order to understand life / one has to first BE ALIVE - this is not something you can learn in school ..:No one can teach it to you ….
Chat with ice poseidon he has so much to talk about
He would just lie and daydream about strawberry vision.
You want HG.GG to get banned?
He can't chat with Ice Poseidon on twitch because that would fall under ban evasion. But yeah it would be a very interesting talk
What's with the dislikes? Dr. K doesn't get this like-dislike ratio from most of his videos x_x
Girl being interviewed. Most importantly a pretty girl, the audience comes in with preconceived notions that pretty girls don't have issues, or issues that she does talk about the audience doesn't think its a big deal bc at the end of the day she's a pretty girl on twitch and can get away with things.
So many in the comments won't even give it a chance, saying I can't get through it, she's disingenuous, i can't trust her, etc etc. I mean so many guys in previous interviews were incredibly disingenuous and closed off and through the interview they slowly share more and more and it becomes a more productive talk.
It's just a bit of an awkward interview.
@@NeonKodiak This doesn't really have much to do with Mira being a girl, but rather her history on the internet. Her attractiveness also plays little role in why people hate her, so it seems pretty silly to even bring that up, unless you're refering to the biggest of incels. Her, Byron and Mitch all have their haters for how much high-school drama they got into back in the day, and wherever Mira went, drama soon followed.
Plenty of people within the twitch space warned Mitch that she's highly manipulative and pretty crazy, which lead to Mitch being even more of an asshole to his stream and his friends. In a lot of ways she's ruined a lot of friendships on twitch, so you can't really say that the hatred people feel towards her isn't alright.
There's a reason why Reckful, Mitch and Mira all appeared on Dr K's stream, it's because their past relationships were that bad.
@@NeonKodiak Seems like you're creating your own narrative here. She came to show not knowing what to talk about. You have to have an issue to discuss when you apply for a session. You can see her staring at herself on the screen and posing to appear as attractive as possible. She has a track record for disregarding and manipulating others for her own benefit.
These should all be red flags regardless of the person, and they're rational reasons to feel uncomfortable with her and this conversation. Please chill with the, "It's because she's a beautiful!"
@@calebcooksey4390 I don't know if you realise what you're saying, but you're pretty much the type of person he's speaking of. "You can see her staring at herself on the screen and posing to appear as attractive as possible" - eh, I did not think of that once? And it's natural for people to try and look good when they see themselves on camera, so why the hate towards her for it?
Basically she dosent understand that everything is relative, that nothing is set in stone, that none of it has some kind of base.
Everything is baseless we are just building meanings on other meanings and conecting stuff in some way, but it's all hanging in the air.
And you may be thinking how does this help me? It should tell you that you are not meant to do anything, you are not suppose to be anything.
59:22 TRUST and be compassionate and grateful towards your effort...
I believe there’s a saying, “Deal with your shit before your shit deals with you.”
This is really useful as someone who also has pushy parents.
24:24. Thats how long it took for him to say it.
Already 9 dislikes? Interesting. I need to watch this:) Thanks Dr K!
this stream was very good