The most difficult battle in Total War history?

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
  • An insane battle, the result of equally ludicrous circumstances. Possibly the hardest ever encountered in the history of Total War.
    Link to the save file for those who want to try this battle for themselves:
    drive.google.c...
    Cheers!
    #shogun2 #disasterbattle #impossiblebattle

Комментарии • 131

  • @GorrilaJohnson
    @GorrilaJohnson 2 года назад +276

    I don't care what the game says; that's a true Heroic Victory

    • @Lekirius
      @Lekirius Год назад +16

      I hate when tw games do that. Give me that voice-cracked Roman announcer hyping you up after a winning a Heroic Victory.

    • @malgdrummer
      @malgdrummer 7 месяцев назад +1

      in shogun 2 theres not heroic victories i reckon, correct me if im wrong but ive never saw a heroic victory, even if ive won lost battles

    • @kev117_
      @kev117_ 6 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@malgdrummerthere is but The way theyre triggered is really weird. I got some heróic victories in battles that i was barely outnumbered by 200 Men or só but Then battles where i win outnumbered 1:4 ID Just get close victory

    • @malgdrummer
      @malgdrummer 6 месяцев назад

      @@kev117_ that's weird

  • @Rokiriko
    @Rokiriko 3 года назад +231

    I know this is overused, but this is CRIMINALLY UNDERRATED. I'd rather watch this than 99% of TW youtubers.

    • @Dr.eeeeeeeeeeevil
      @Dr.eeeeeeeeeeevil Год назад

      Even legend???

    • @kingpoxy2289
      @kingpoxy2289 11 месяцев назад +1

      Probaly because of the mechanics of the game not going well with the mostly let's play society of TW youtubers

    • @Lp-army1
      @Lp-army1 4 месяца назад

      Yea its moatly battles that are worth watching ​@@kingpoxy2289

  • @fedda9999
    @fedda9999 2 года назад +45

    this could have become the japanese version of teutoburg forest massacre

  • @steyn1775
    @steyn1775 2 года назад +112

    Holy shit, this was an very well made video, with subtitles, plan of action, little Paint stuff for the map

  • @brennanlatham9188
    @brennanlatham9188 Год назад +22

    If one can beat ten, so too can one thousand defeat ten thousand
    -Miyamoto Musashi
    Well done

  • @TheFlyingZulu
    @TheFlyingZulu 2 года назад +14

    Rally could have been used some to help with moral and a few troops who were broken... but damn that was cool to watch and I didn't know about the shift tab pause button on legendary... nice.

    • @TheFlyingZulu
      @TheFlyingZulu 2 года назад +2

      Oh neverminded I see you used rally at 20:28 I think.

  • @nukesomething5518
    @nukesomething5518 2 года назад +27

    lmao it's teutonburg forest all over again

    • @Fyrebrand18
      @Fyrebrand18 Год назад +6

      It’s what Varus could only hope Teutonberg was.

  • @Mya37la
    @Mya37la Год назад +9

    Man It's hell of a educational video for new and middle level players, you done an amazing job with that explanations and planning 🤜🤛

  • @scorpionfiresome3834
    @scorpionfiresome3834 2 года назад +5

    The Loquendo voices and editing gives me nostalgia, keep up the work man, this is pure gold.

  • @theamorphousflatsch2699
    @theamorphousflatsch2699 2 года назад +9

    Holyshit that was satisfying to watch, you earned a sub, my man

  • @RedrikRaynor
    @RedrikRaynor 2 года назад +58

    you should send this to volound. I would love to see his take on this battle. Other wise that was great and very entertaining to watch.

  • @stevenbeltran1956
    @stevenbeltran1956 2 года назад +10

    If you can do a 41 unit campaign, there's a mod in the steam workshop for the ui to be adjusted somewhat to 41. Then you can change the save files using either editsf or save parser to change the game to what you want. I recommend editsf and looking up tutorials to get ya started. Love the video man. It'd be great to see you manage a large army.

  • @alphabromega859
    @alphabromega859 2 года назад +17

    this is one of the best tw videos ever made. more editing than legend has done in his entire career in one video.

    • @Mutila236
      @Mutila236 Год назад

      he would win with less casualties and not even pause the battle

    • @lukmaanpratomo6866
      @lukmaanpratomo6866 Год назад +3

      While I do agree on the Editing side (He could do some extra editing work for HIS OWN campaign or quick battle Let's Plays, such as putting a simple cinematic intro for example).
      You also need to consider that MOST of his videos are community/user-submitted ones. Most players submit their campaigns/battles requests to him in either the AUTOSAVE or HARD SAVE format where the events are either JUST ABOUT TO HAPPEN or HAS HAPPENED (but recovered by reverting to the old save JUST BEFORE the event).
      Editing HIS OWN campaign/battle videos is one thing, but editing a user-submitted campaigns/battles is another.

  • @AB-bg7os
    @AB-bg7os Год назад +8

    First of all, the victory was very impressive, I learned a lot!
    Second, this could have been easily avoided.

  • @m.j.9318
    @m.j.9318 2 года назад +2

    only 4 minutes into the video and im blown away by the content. subscribed and i hope there is alot more like this! Great!

  • @j.m.salazar9964
    @j.m.salazar9964 10 месяцев назад +1

    I feel like these types of videos should be more popular/encouraged more in the TW community. I love full campaign playthrus but there is something visceral about a debrief like this!

  • @markjiao84
    @markjiao84 8 месяцев назад +3

    Absolutely nuts... greatest battle i've seen on RUclips. wow

  • @sebaszane
    @sebaszane 2 года назад +30

    It may be extremely difficult but I think this is possible without the pause exploit. Utilizing unit grouping might help overcome some of the more tedious micro during the initial ambush. Once the generals are killed and units start breaking, as long as you've preserved most of your unit strength, it's pretty much a cakewalk as even the enemy samurai will break without much fight.

    • @leviturner529
      @leviturner529 2 года назад +11

      cake walk is a bit of an exaggeration but OK

    • @morganmorra1547
      @morganmorra1547 Год назад

      I usually don't even win the first battle in legendary mode. Good luck

    • @dabo5078
      @dabo5078 Год назад

      @@morganmorra1547 How?

    • @hellinoob8734
      @hellinoob8734 Год назад

      @@morganmorra1547 this not too hard if you know how ai does works in shogun

    • @morganmorra1547
      @morganmorra1547 Год назад

      @@hellinoob8734 I usually have some issues to use large armies and don't understand much of this ai right now. In naval battles it's relatively easy and when I'm in siege too, but I don't understand what they do in open field. There it seems like they just go forward to me.

  • @loop4x454
    @loop4x454 3 года назад +14

    nice micro! enjoyable video

  • @emillutzkanov1348
    @emillutzkanov1348 8 месяцев назад +2

    The humor in this video is top level! :D

  • @ironmonger3412
    @ironmonger3412 Месяц назад

    First time in life saw AI army with cannon, even not 1 cannon, with 2 cannons

  • @zgthor
    @zgthor 8 месяцев назад +1

    to be honest, probably the most difficult battle was the first and only spear unit vs those almost 6 thousands

  • @stephenschneider2171
    @stephenschneider2171 2 года назад +4

    This was an amazing battle. Makes me wanna fire up a Hattori campaign.

  • @Paurames
    @Paurames 10 месяцев назад

    Where have I been after all these 2 years. Your video is amazing.

  • @ThePoeticPariah
    @ThePoeticPariah Год назад +1

    I feel like the more difficult battle would be those three armies ambushing the single ashigaru but go off, I guess.

  • @JavierGonzalez-dz8kv
    @JavierGonzalez-dz8kv 8 месяцев назад

    What a great video. Love the ammouny of work you put into this

  • @brendanworthington3888
    @brendanworthington3888 3 года назад +4

    This was a very enjoyable video.

  • @TrenchcoatNinja3
    @TrenchcoatNinja3 Год назад +1

    Well done! This makes me wanna play Shogun 2 again.

  • @mcdonalds32ouncesoda53
    @mcdonalds32ouncesoda53 2 года назад +3

    You earned a sub for this great video

  • @NewUsers3248
    @NewUsers3248 2 месяца назад

    Rewlly good use of your Calvary so many people waste thier cavs on wasted opportunities you used every unit with precision including your cav good hammer and anvil constantly pulling out troops to get better angles quite enjoyed this video though 2 years old definitely not outdated even current pros could learn a thing or two from you

  • @ianchen6086
    @ianchen6086 17 дней назад

    Damn this was a sick battle, I would have gone for running the clock out by leading them in circles after taking out one side and retreating units. Not sure if that works in legendary too tho

  • @BratWody
    @BratWody 2 года назад +4

    Man... that's something...

  • @Dmartinez117
    @Dmartinez117 2 года назад +2

    You deserve better mate!! Much for view!

  • @abhinandanbanerjee5471
    @abhinandanbanerjee5471 2 года назад +4

    Volound needs to see this (2)

    • @maxmustermann-zx9yq
      @maxmustermann-zx9yq 2 года назад

      its not on his level though, he is only outnumbered 1 to 2

    • @matthewcarson3736
      @matthewcarson3736 2 года назад +1

      @@maxmustermann-zx9yq But this isn't a siege defense that gives massive advantages to the defender

  • @pelimies1818
    @pelimies1818 8 месяцев назад

    Shogun2 battle:
    3 minutes
    Shogun2 epic battle:
    5 minutes

  • @playbook008
    @playbook008 Год назад

    Legend has it, he ruled Japan for 100 years.

  • @jaykaygxd8497
    @jaykaygxd8497 8 месяцев назад

    I have fought many battles like this in my weirdly Long for my age Total war career and I have to say I have never managed such a Heroic victory without at least 1 re load of the battle

  • @HaiTran-ey7kx
    @HaiTran-ey7kx Год назад +1

    I like that 300 reference lol 😂 earned a sub from me

  • @lokky95
    @lokky95 5 месяцев назад

    Hey when the game cheeses you, you cheese it right back.

  • @Yas-ii3hu
    @Yas-ii3hu 2 года назад +4

    This was amazing

  • @hadidinaspuprntb5456
    @hadidinaspuprntb5456 Год назад +1

    you shouldnt attack that bunch armies at first place, instead move your army little bit closer, close enough to make them attack you and avoid that bloody ambush, and then move your second army on that city away, lost a city is always better than lost Daimyo and his heir

    • @helltarrist
      @helltarrist 11 месяцев назад +1

      Thing is, even with ambush, it would be a defensive battle due to balance of power. And turtling up against 6.000 soldier army with 20+ missile units wouldn't work anyway. If his thinking worked (no ambush), he would effectively buy himself a turn this way and not lose anything, even if he lost, which he didnt so it works out to be about the same.

  • @VivaLaPizza76
    @VivaLaPizza76 2 года назад +4

    HONOR

  • @versacos
    @versacos 2 года назад +2

    wow, i am amazed, good job!

  • @Lekirius
    @Lekirius Год назад +1

    Really impressive battle. I remember an "epic" battle in my own Ottoman campaign in ETW, but that was in the easiest difficult XD.

  • @Kingmakerrr1337
    @Kingmakerrr1337 2 месяца назад

    Very impressive defensive work against a larger force, but the victory still gets a bit tainted by the fact you paused the game in legendary

  • @satanwithinternet2753
    @satanwithinternet2753 Год назад

    Holy fucking shit this might just be the best tw video i have ever seen.

  • @HuyVu-qh6ie
    @HuyVu-qh6ie 10 дней назад

    Yeah, STW2 logic - Pyrrhic victory my ass! Shamefur dispray!
    THAT'S A GLORIOUS HEROIC VICTORY!!!

  • @homeric_odyssey4744
    @homeric_odyssey4744 11 месяцев назад

    Congrants on everything bro the battle and the video kkk

  • @VaNDaIUKR
    @VaNDaIUKR 2 года назад +6

    1:56 matchlock ashigaru are terrible unit?
    Oh, it's Ikko Ikki matchlock ashigaru... Yeah, fair point

    • @liaogregor4047
      @liaogregor4047 Год назад

      lesser range, awful reload rate and accuracy to compare with any missile units except ikko's variation, isn't it bad enough? I just can't get it why CA didn't make it 200 range? I have played modded campaign for 1.3k hrs and 200 is definitely fair and fun for matchlock units with player or AI

    • @VaNDaIUKR
      @VaNDaIUKR Год назад +1

      ​@@liaogregor4047you shouldn't use matchlocks to shoot at enemy archers - archers will shred them. Matchlocks are support unit - they ignore armor and demoralize. Gun units are difficult to use yes, but if used correctly - they dominate, Dishonorable Daimyo and Volund have many videos that prove that

    • @liaogregor4047
      @liaogregor4047 Год назад

      @Stas sats I have saw those videos before, the mindset is more for pvp, and the design is fair for pvp, but no way in the campaign. Tell me, how are you gonna win AI's spamming bow samurais with buff that gives them accuracy and reload rate hiding behind the data? The thing I want to say is that they could simply just add another projectile data for campaign's unit, and it's so easy that I can make it myself in 3 mins. But treating campaign like pvp isn't really sound fun, nor does it look. They basically didn't separate Campaign and MP too much, which is why I can't really accept that pathetic 100 range for a matchlock, if matchlock can't win the bow or at least comparable with the bow, why even Japanese at that time adopt them? Either in game design or historical reference, it's unacceptable for me

    • @liaogregor4047
      @liaogregor4047 Год назад

      @Stas sats but still, it's only my personal opinion.

    • @VaNDaIUKR
      @VaNDaIUKR Год назад

      @@liaogregor4047 Dude, 16th century was time of pike&shot, not line infantry. You wanna skirmish with archers? Use your own archers in loose formation preferably with forest cover, and\or ram enemy archers with cav. Matchlocks should stand behind your melee infantry(preferably on the hill) and shoot through gaps in the line or over your troops(matchlocks can shoot enemy cav over your troops even on flat ground).
      Takeda katana cav will lose 1v1 against yari ashigaru without even yari wall - this doesn't mean cav is useless or bad.

  • @Gavlavyus_Rumi
    @Gavlavyus_Rumi Год назад +1

    There are a lot of hard battles in Attila too. Anyways, video was great

  • @Roi_de_Rome1811
    @Roi_de_Rome1811 Месяц назад

    I WANT TO BE YOUR DECIPLE , NOW!! 🙇‍♂🙇‍♂

  • @rod9829
    @rod9829 10 месяцев назад

    I wonder if Nobunaga also paused his gameplay mid fight to give orders

  • @elhabib1177
    @elhabib1177 2 года назад +2

    Based tactician uses exploit like sigma

  • @painsorrow3062
    @painsorrow3062 6 месяцев назад

    Really fun video idea. Could you share the map you used to show the armies moving? Makes me want to use it for my campaigns.

  • @taigei4552
    @taigei4552 2 года назад

    You can also press P for pause

  • @_rinala
    @_rinala 2 месяца назад

    beyond impressive

  • @as-is89
    @as-is89 7 месяцев назад

    beating them off is crazy work

  • @blaineveron2395
    @blaineveron2395 2 года назад +3

    Nice!

  • @hcqb140878
    @hcqb140878 2 года назад +3

    Subbed

  • @turinmormegil7715
    @turinmormegil7715 10 месяцев назад

    Disasters like this early on the campaign make or break It. Shit like this has made me drop a campaign for months before trying It again, after losing a campaign Three times due to impossible battles like this

  • @anissyahromi5671
    @anissyahromi5671 8 месяцев назад

    Pyrrhic Victory.....lol classic Shogun 2 thinking having great loss after defeating vastly superior enemies is wrong,i get this couple of times

    • @King_Kong2002
      @King_Kong2002 2 месяца назад

      This isn’t only shogun 2 as well. In Warhammer III when you play as vampires and have lots of zombie fodders you will usually get other UC victories a lot due to the sheer numbers of zombies that dies.

  • @Yews
    @Yews 10 месяцев назад +1

    The fact that you can see what units are ambushing you and think about your strategy before the ambush actually starts is cheating, as well as the Shift-Tab exploit. I wonder if the entire plan was conceived on the fly without actually sitting there staring at all the intel for an hour. Also I think that in real life this ambush would 100% end with total annihilation of the defending force, unless of course the attackers were dogshit at their job and got wrecked with rudimentary tactics employed by the opposing side (in real life complex maneuvering like in Total War is virtually impossible even with contemporary technology; any and every tactical move more complex than ‘cavalry go right flank’ or ‘archers retreat’ would be rehearsed a million times beforehand and executed independently by the units themselves rather than transferred to the units mid-battle).

    • @dylan1016
      @dylan1016 10 месяцев назад +3

      its a video game bro

    • @Yews
      @Yews 10 месяцев назад

      @@dylan1016 it’s a historical strategy video game, which is a very important detail, condition, and distinction.

    • @dylan1016
      @dylan1016 10 месяцев назад

      @@Yews so, a video game

    • @Yews
      @Yews 10 месяцев назад

      @@dylan1016 the sun is also kinda hot yes

    • @dylan1016
      @dylan1016 10 месяцев назад

      @@Yews the sun is also a very hot star, which is a very important detail, condition and distinction.

  • @Laucron
    @Laucron Год назад

    "pyrrhic victory" yeah we would be using the greek alphabet if that was really a pyrrhic victory

  • @tiffles3890
    @tiffles3890 Год назад

    I'm more interested in the post battle music from 22:00 to 22:15. I searched lot for it but never found it.

  • @brotherhoodz97
    @brotherhoodz97 Год назад

    what is the damn voice software used here? ive seen it on other videos, but i cant find out what it is

  • @christopheryoung2874
    @christopheryoung2874 2 года назад +2

    gret video

  • @PeterNygard69
    @PeterNygard69 3 месяца назад

    Why did you only have 1 yari ashigaru lol

  • @charlibronson1812
    @charlibronson1812 2 года назад +3

    gg

  • @Crouchy232323
    @Crouchy232323 2 года назад

    Hey mate. You sound familiar. Where do I know u from?

  • @AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen
    @AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen Год назад

    👏🙂
    truly a legendary battle

  • @vladeas
    @vladeas Год назад

    Peak Total War!

  • @MrMrSpok
    @MrMrSpok 10 месяцев назад

    Awesome!

  • @petruluca6124
    @petruluca6124 3 месяца назад

    Better go watch volund THE imposible battle.
    What is this pause every 2 secomds and not even using fire arrows?

  • @zalop.
    @zalop. 7 месяцев назад

    imagne not playing legendary mode

  • @junlimited
    @junlimited 8 месяцев назад

    Wow

  • @absyahwa7698
    @absyahwa7698 2 года назад

    WHAT MOD DID U USE BRO?

  • @andrie75
    @andrie75 2 месяца назад

    game name pls

  • @Arriss2121
    @Arriss2121 2 года назад

    how

  • @redna88
    @redna88 Год назад

    Negative for pausing the battle

  • @Arriss2121
    @Arriss2121 2 года назад +1

    bing bong

  • @SVP-uy9qb
    @SVP-uy9qb 2 года назад

    Not remotelly close to the most difficult

  • @ghost.3409
    @ghost.3409 5 месяцев назад

    stolen video, this was from a youtuber playing on legendary.

  • @onetwolegolego5951
    @onetwolegolego5951 2 года назад +1

    easy

  • @morowenidi4621
    @morowenidi4621 Год назад +1

    I just did this battle without pause and intensive micro, u just gotta stay in a big blob, treating every unit as mele unit and break them 1 by 1 ez. Also didnt lose a single unit

    • @morowenidi4621
      @morowenidi4621 Год назад

      You, on the other hand, split your army midway, which makes it unnecessary difficult. Read your Sun Tzu kids

    • @Fizzle_289
      @Fizzle_289 Год назад

      u got a lot to learn Kid :D

    • @blastomerx
      @blastomerx 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah. And 25 ranged infantry threw you roses right?

  • @CommonSenserules1981
    @CommonSenserules1981 2 года назад

    Talk about poor English "more properly" ...

  • @osososd
    @osososd 7 месяцев назад

    First rime I ever seen AI using cannons

  • @gumpmosh
    @gumpmosh Год назад

    Welcome to the Total War Cat channel for the great TW videos without pausing and other cheating!

  • @parmamon1285
    @parmamon1285 8 месяцев назад

    send this maybe to legendoftotalwar

  • @nsawatchlistbait289
    @nsawatchlistbait289 11 месяцев назад

    Wow