❌ Why Red Bull won't promote Tsunoda
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- Опубликовано: 9 дек 2024
- Red Bull looks increasingly likely to drop Sergio Perez - but why isn't Yuki Tsunoda the main contender to replace him?
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"Yuki is bad over the radio!!!!"
Max Verstappen: Dont mind me im just listening to the drama 😊
max is fast enough for his radio outbursts to be worth it, yuki is fast but he's not as consistent or fast as max. I can half-understand why red bull are hesitant to promote yuki.
Yuki is a very good driver and I want to see him move up but when he gets annoyed or something, his performance does degrade a bit
@@tuna5618 yeah no way, bro is driving VISA
Yuki is only there because of Red Bull’s Honda deal, Yuki is likely gonna be replaced once red bull and Honda part ways in 2026
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Yuki just needs to follow his dreams and finally open up that restaurant if Redbull aren't willing to give him at least a year in that seat.
He’s a masterchef already, he’s cooked up and served devries, Danny and in the middle of butchering Liam.
What? Is that for real? That's awesome.
Bearman and Hulkenberg also gonna open the restaurant.
Red Bull are finished
@alastairorr6318 so are your absolute bang average team , merry Christmas currant buns.
And Max is always so calm and polite on the radio.
If you remove the cursing and the screaming it almost looks like a very calm and collected individual.
@@The_Curious_Cat Max can be straight and direct, and he will tell when he is not happy with something which can even contain an occasional f***, but I have never heard him curse or scream on the radio.
He's horner's son
@@The_Curious_Cat huh?🤣
he earned his right for it, if Tsunoda can drive like Max, team will also tolerate more on him
I do think it's odd that immediately after Gasly and Albon's tenures, they suddenly got cold feet on the idea of just "throwing a driver in at the deep end". Despite having arguably a better opportunity to do so in the last 3 years while the car was so dominant. They could have had an under performing driver for a season and still bossed the constructors.
And you can argue that they have because Sergio has been in that position for a while now.
It has nothing to do with the two, RBR saw why the 1-2 driver formula is the winning one. The problem is they've no need for a new #1 and their #2 isn't delivering anymore. Neither Yuki nor Lawson will be a good #2 for RBR, let alone a future #1. Ricciardo was supposed to be the golden backup for #2 until he dropped the ball too. So now they're stuck with a junior programme that's not delivering stars nor solid #2 prospects.
@@mrgalaxy396RBR: We saw why the 1-2 driver setup is the winning one.
McLaren: We think having two #1 drivers is the winning way, and one driver only gives up for the other if one has a realistic title chance and the other doesn’t.
Red Bull: Constructors P3
McLaren: Constructors P1
What Red Bull needs isn’t another #2 driver. What it needs is another fast driver.
Tinfoil hat on and im sure im wrong.
Perhaps the number 1 wind tunnel punishment is too hard they dont want the number 1 anymore?
RBR put feelers out to Norris in the last offseason, who rebuffed them, saying, "It would not be a smart move" to be Max's teammate. I thought that Sainz would be the right choice for the second seat, and it wouldn't surprise me if RBR was having a bit of remorse over not bringing him back, considering where they are, and what their options are moving forward. Maybe Lawson will rise to the challenge, but in no universe is Tsunoda a good fit.
I think they were keeping Perez for the sponsorship money for as long as they could because the sponsorship money Perez brings is more than the prize difference between first and second, and in terms of Legacy people only care about the car that produced the WDC, not the constructors.
Like you say, they could still boss the constructors with an underperforming driver, so they kept Perez while the car was dominant enough, but now that it isn't theyre getting rid of them.
And yet, Lawson has managed to piss off half the grid but sure, he’s more stable
max did it too in th past
@ To be fair to Lawson, he doesn’t have a Daniel to balance out the harshness, so it’s hyper exposed. And then every one was too focused on the damn parade of second drivers that Red Bull had to give to much of a damn about Max’s attitude.
Lawson was chucked with another driver with a strong personality.
It’s good, rookies coming in and stirring shit up!
In what world do you live in where Lawson has pissed others off? Literally Perez is the only one cos he has raced him hard on track. Lying for the sake of creating drama.
I think thats just him trying to have his impact on the grid and not be forgotten after his controversial entry. I hope he will become more friendly once he has an established stay in f1.
"His temperament" lol. The guy that showed the middle finger to another driver of the "same" team.
and has beef with alonso for some reason
Exactly! *Insert Thank You Meme*
Not to mention their other driver is Max Verstappen. Who has a cooler head than Max?
@@DipsSauce7388 2/3 of the grid has a cooler head than Max, but exactly none of the other drivers are bringing consecutive titles with a difficult-to-drive car that's frequently the 3rd fastest.
@@fernank017 alonso got the shits with him for overtaking him for 16th place. Alonso is such a tool.
Zhouh beating Lawson in the drivers standings is peak comedy
Zhou to Redbull
Is it though? Its impressive for Zhou, but I don't think its a knock against Lawson. If you look at Lawson's 5 races, the only decent points-scoring opportunities were in Vegas and Brazil. He scored points in Brazil, and only scored in Austin only due to a phenomenal race. Vegas he had a bad weekend admittedly.
Yuki has only scored points twice in the last 5 races, just has more because Brazil was a clusterduck. If Liam didn't have the 10-place grid penalty in Austin he for sure would have finished 7th.
Edit: I know its probably just a joke though so maybe Im taking it too seriously.
@@ergoproxy-gx2cq redbull won’t take mediocre driver 😅
@@nuke_parasitine but they'll take serigo Perez 😂😂
How? what shit comment
Ah, yes. Liam Lawson has the right temperament... What world are you guys living in?
You gotta remember in that world max is never in the wrong, even when he clearly is but you don't admit it, you blame the other person, act shocked and claim it's unbelievable, so I guess it's the red bull world.
@@t3h51d3w1nd3rmax is the 4 time champion you might hate him but he is best now
AM needs to give up on Lance and bring in Yuki for '26. Yes, I know it's not going to happen but I can dream. He's wasting time with the Red Bull program at this stage
Lance isn't going anywhere, Daddy still wants to build him a championship winning car. Lance has that seat until the money runs out or he's too old to turn the wheel.
I'll dream with ya bro
lance won't be gone until he wants to be sadly.
@@laupernutYep, also, Honda has zero say in that team.
You think Honda has forgot about Alonso calling them a “GP 2 engine”. Money talks and if Honda want Fernando out and Yuki in what do you think would happen
Yuki needs to leave Redbull, they’re not showing the respect he deserves
Where would he go though?
Most likely, Aston. He will likely be a backup for Alonso.
Replace Stroll at Aston @@soundscape26
@@ederleon98I wish but stroll probably isn’t going anywhere cause daddy said so
@@soundscape26sadly a reserve driver at Aston Martin
Tsunoda is a better replacement for illanero Perez than Lawson!
If Yuki doesn’t get the seat next year he needs to loon elsewhere
But what about Hadjar, Colapinto or Iwasa?
@@matthiascerebri3315 colapinto has no chance except argentina puts up a lot of money, iwasa is slower than hadjar, hadjar has the best chance imo.
If I were him I'd already have made a bid for Audi back when they hadn't signed anyone yet. Failing to do that? Cadilac.
@@shronklescrimblo69 how much money for Franco?
What a joke have they been actually watching Liam Lawson and how he carries on. There's no driving reason why Yuki shouldn't have the seat.
Well there is honda drama and whatnot I guess, maybe that's making red bull hesitant to put a honda driver in the top team.
Hit the nail on the head. And sometimes, that's why..
He is bad at giving technical input to the engineers. Yuki can drive fast if the engineers can give him a fast car. But when the car needs improving, Yuki is no help. RB said that Danny Ric showed them how valuable it is to have a driver that can help improve a car.
Lawson says "Oh that's so awesome" once every few sentences
But he says "Alonso" a lot too
Yuki is tied to Honda. After 2026, that means Aston has access to him.
Red Bull won’t want to show Yuki the top team, only to lose him to what is very likely to be a title rival team.
It really is as simple as that.
Honda even made interesting comments at the Aston Honda launch which shows the power they have over the drivers. They stated that they would “allow Alonso to race using their engine”. They also stated that Yuki is first in line for an Aston seat.
Lol! That's only because they were asked. We've got Lance and Alonso. The project is being built around Lance, that's been stated by Krack. Honda comes in. Sure, they probably want to bring in Yuki, but AMR/Honda only has two seats..
1. Lance, nepotism.
2. Alonso, 2xWC, legend.
3. Yuki, manufacturer backing.
So.. reservedriver at best? 😅
@ Newey is there because of Alonso. He publicly stated that he wanted to work with either Alonso or Hamilton. The interesting bit is Alonso is personally paying a large chunk of Newey’s salary.
As for Lance, people believe he’s been bought a team but they fail to see that it’s Lawrence’s dream to win a world title, not Lance. It’s clear Lance doesn’t want to be there, and the pressure on his shoulders must be immense. He was actually pretty decent under a lower pressure environment at Williams, sort of like Albon.
Because Yuki was never a Red Bull Driver, he was a Honda driver
The only reason they keep Yuki around so that Honda would help them repair, maintain there engine until 2026 when open they own engine program
I think the real reason, or at least one of them, is this. Yuki has ties with Honda and with Honda and Red Bull parting ways after the 2025 season, it's unsure if Yuki stays at Red Bull / RB, or if he follow where ever Honda goes. For Red Bull this is too big of a risk, plus if they would go for Yuki and he would leave after 2025, they might loose a new talent in Lawson (Lawson getting bought by another competitor team).
They are paying Honda for that though.
Yuki driving like a crazy guy next to Riccardo in the cooldown lap after the first race this year is enough for them to decide this.
Temperament issue is so untrue, and if it's true it would be unfair. Lawson is no better, look at him how he was obsessed with Alonso in last couple race, for example. I agree with someone commented that Yuki has to move to other team that appreciate his talent more. I really wish he can replace Lance Stroll in 2026. 🤞
Yuki should replace Stroll for 2026 while Stroll goes to WEC to race with Aston Martin in the Hypercar class
I watched Lawson racing in RedBull DTM tintop Ferraris against Alex Albon.
I was neither impressed by his driving nor his personality.
Nothing I have seen of his time in F1 at VCRB has given me any cause to revise that impression.
Liam imo has done no better against Yuki than Dani Ricc did. Quite the reverse in fact.
Dani still sits higher in the standings than Liam.
Same, Yuki should get the seat over him. Plus, Liam got problems off track too with how he’s beefing with experienced drivers(in particular the Hispanic drivers)
Your analysis is flawed.
Can't really compare two drivers standings when one has only been in for a handful of races and the other couldn't get his shit together with 2y in the car ..
@@RaptorV1USA Lol
@@gordonmurray3153 It's all about marketing really. He presents a good image for RB. Like how they wanted to pull something off with Albon and screwed him over. The same is going to happen with Liam too. The whole charade of him being better than Dani is mind blowing. He has the same machinery and has not shown anything to prove why he needs to be in the RB seat next year while Yuki has been consistently good over the years now. Sad really
@@gordonmurray3153 Sure, I'm not impressed either, but Danny Ric raced way more races than Lawson
Liam Lawson is TRASH! He has been outperformed by Yuki every step of the way since he entered F1, and his beef with every other driver on the grid makes Yuki's "temperament" a non-issue in comparison.
incorrect, Lawson is leading Yuki 6-4 in feature races, despite being a rookie. By "every other driver" you mean Perez and Colapinto who are both not in F1 next season and old hot head Alonso, who couldn't handle being overtaken and probably gets replaced by Tsunoda when they are a Honda team.
Stroll needs to leave he is wasting a seat. Yuki and Alonso would be a pretty nice pair. Also yuki learned English through mechanics and engineers who typically use a lot of curse words he really means no harm plus all that adrenaline theses racers have when something goes wrong you can understand why they are so heated. So I think it’s a pretty poor excuse for not adding him to the Red Bull team.
Literally just racism. Max is a child over the radio 99% of the time. Blaming Yuki’s swearing for not giving him a deserved promotion is absurd and anyone who pays attention to the sport can see that.
Racism is probably a factor, yes. I would also say that Max can get away with it given how good he is. It probably wouldn't be tolerated if he was shit.
not racism, lets be honest he is not marketable, give him leclerc or sainz face, and he would be in red bull 1 year ago
Lol racism in 2024
You are ridicoulous
@@ian234234234 racing is not about looks, it is about results.
I dont like lawson's attitude
Ric should've been given the chance after summer break 😤
Yuki should step back from being a Honda driver if he wants a chance 🏆
This is the only thing I can think of. Yuki might want to follow Honda to Aston. There's no other logical explanation on why Yuki isn't given the Red Bull seat.
Maybe it's because Yuki would want to be the number 1 driver?
So would Lawson...
But wouldn't Yuki gladly sever his Honda ties if given the Red Bull seat? It's not that there'll be room for him at Aston Martin either.
Id like to see Yuki get a chance.
Tsunoda dragged himself to points in 2023
So basically they wasted Tsunoda's time with the potential of a top team drive.
Got it.
It's called racism
Good insights 👍🏻
Yuki and Max have the exact same temperament behind the wheel and that would spill over into the garage in my opinion. And as we e seen very recently Max can’t handle adversity.
He’ll score more points and is faster, but he might be mean to the engineer sometimes. This is why you lost the constructors. He should have been in that seat this year.
Yuki deserves the place. He's been excellent this year. Lawson hasn't done nearly enough to get a seat at the top team.
Yukis rage radio calls really bashed my stereotype of the calm, polite Japanese
Pragmatically, Yuki is the lightest f1 driver at 54 kg in a sport where weight is important -- Max is 72 kg; an it just so happens Yuki is a good driver with lots of potential. He's also improved on his language since he's joined RB this seems like a simple decision --- Okay, I hear you, we know he's got some association with Honda but think about, give it a second.
they add ballast to balance the driver’s weight so it doesn’t matter
80kg rule in place in 2019
I think yuki's consistency and technical feedback are some weaknesses of his but surely they're better than checo's. Maybe liam is better at giving feedback (idk) but he's not super consistent either.
There doesn't seem to be a great option anywhere beside bottas, who would be comfortably number 2 but better than checo.
Man rambled for nearly 2 hours, that’s crazy work. I’m a massive J Cole fan but GNX was a really solid project and if you were actually listening to GNX properly on the first track Kendrick said this album ain’t for lyricism he just wants guys to feel this and take it at face value
My prediction is if Liam gets the seat is that people are probably going to be saying Yuki didn’t get picked because he’s Asian
Yes that is the reason. Also if liam gets picked after Yuki has out qualified I think the f1 community would not be too happy
Yuki is a Honda driver. Honda is cutting ties with red bull. Yuki wont get that seat. Simple as that.
@ Honda does not own Yuki buddy. He has a choice and the red bull team has a choice
@alanpeter5527 , that’s a ridiculous statement. Yuki being Asian has nothing to do with their choice.
Yuki isn’t great at feedback. They want a driver that can help improve a car. Yuki only drives fast because he has to rely on the engineers and other drivers to work together and hand him a good car.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 I was joking obviously, if anything they would want a Japanese driver due to the bigger Asian market
"Ruthlessly kicks him out"? He's been given way more opportunities than any other driver they've gotten rid of and is the single reason why they didn't win the Constructors. He should have never been re-signed in the first place.
"a SHORT term move at best" Ha ha, that one hurt!
If I'm Tsunoda I'd be looking at 2026 and getting a drive at Cadillac
Starting to think Red Bull fears Yuki would be close to Max and make him lose some points
Yuki’s attitude seems to have changed this year. He seems to have taken the opportunity of Perez’s seat seriously. I think he deserves a chance, and promoting Lawson ahead of him makes little sense. Yuki is relatively consistent and might bloom with a good car underneath him.
Yuki might be very expressive but it's just general complaints. Lawson constantly complains about everyone else and never blames himself
The only factors are Honda and lack of sponsors/money. Temperament isn't even an issue since after his first season
Yuki has been a Honda boy for some time now. Yuki knows that Marko will never promote him. Yuki deserves to race for a team that will actually see his potential. Because Yuki is a great driver hands down. I love Riccardo but Yuki was dominating the team when he was there
Tsunoda has been very impressive the past two years. If we're talking temperament, we have to admit it's not a great justification if Verstappen has been historically weak in that regard. Hard to see how this isn't plain ol' racism.
The non-Honda related reasons are bunk. If his temperament and feedback aren't great, they somehow are good enough to give him a seat for years at RB/Alphatauri? Red Bull is a big step up, but nothing is keeping Red Bull from demoting Yuki if after a few races he proves to be less than. They can take a punt on him. Something in the Honda contract is the only issue that makes sense
The fact that they threw the constructors away by not just having Yuki replace Perez mid season, his qualifying times in that shitbox car against perez in the RB alone should have got him that seat, at least for a year.
If Redbull are so open to trying and sacking, then just pop Yuki in , then if he doesnt perform asap then just drop him. Makes better sense then risking Lawson to soon
Still if its just one season i would love to see tsunoda in redbulll :(
It feels obvious that yuki is the choice. They may have some doubts but give him a chance and drop him if he doesnt perform
I am for Daniel Riccardo being in Red Bull. Don’t know why he got kicked out. He performed much better than Liam Lawson. He even won Monaco.
The description you used for Lawson was exactly what Ric was delivering, so have they gained in that swap? Me thinks not. Lawson to Red Bull would be about the same if they went with Ric. Just give it to Yuki and let’s see what fireworks transpire! 🎆🎇
They just don't want anyone that may disrupt Max's calm.
Picking Lawson over Tsunoda is basically conceding the Constructors' for 2025, the last year they're likely to be competitive for a while. That in-house engine might eventually be good...but right out of the gate? No way. Lawson will contribute at Perez level.
Not picking Yuki is a mistake
maybe they think Liam will be more docile to Max while Yuki will fight him
Imagine the height difference in the thumbnail of this video with Tsunoda instead of Perez 😅😂
Maybe because Tsunoda’s ONLY talent is screaming!!
Yuki just isn't marketable enough in the western market. That's the only reason perez has stayed in that seat for so long, he brings in a lot of money
Until very recently it seems like Yuki has been completely indifferent on whether or not he ever got bumped up to the main team. He has also been in f1 for four seasons now and has been solid but rarely spectacular.
These arguments make no sense given Maxs attitude on the radio consistently and the fact that Lawson has already made enemies of numerous drivers and done things like flip off Checo. Redbull needs to get rid of Horner.
Neither of these guys have had much fire since they exhausted the Danny sim work that covered them through Austin and have been leap frogged by Alpine, Haas, and now even Sauber is giving them elbows. I don't see either of them being a B+ driver to back Max....but you go with the available choices.
Yes Tsunoda is backed by Honda. That’s why RB should give Tsunoda a shot in the seat for repaying Honda for that rocketship engine that brought them 22 23 constructors championships.
If you are considering Tsunoda's temper on radio, he's the ideal candidate to be Max's teammate!!!
They signed him due to Honda pressuring Red Bull. They don’t want to admit a driver they didn’t choose is the best for the job.
At this point, what does one season in the last year before a regulation change actually mean?
If he cracks or the feedback isn't up too snuff then they can just ditch him for 2026 and he can rejoin Honda (if they ditch Lance or Alonso). Don't give him access to the RB2026-project. No harm done. Next year is looking like a transitional year for RB anyway - as the first year without Newey, but more windtunneltime then the last couple years.. 😅
Lawson would've ripened in the Vcarb and wouldn't be thrown into the deepend immediately like Albon and would be ready for '26.
Lawson is at best only OK. I understand why they don't want a hot headed Yuki around Max, but I'm almost certain there's an F2 driver that would outperform him. The new F2 class seems to be much more prepared for F1 and I chalk that up to their use of simulators to train. The older F1 drivers, like Lewis, say simulators are a waste of time. It's not a coincidence he never picked up on how to drive this new generation of car.
The only reason yuki isn't going to redbull is because he won't play the team game and move over for verstappen. It will bring a lot of tension to the team.
Redbull should of snatched sainz back when they had the chance.
Which Driver doesn't have a temper? Yuki fits right in, RedBullRacing needs him to win the championship
The reality is both of them would get crushed by Max. As we saw with Perez and Bottas, drivers tend to lose a bit of pace once they realise they've got no chance of competing for the title despite having the fastest car. It's a tough position to be in mentally. Instead of looking at who is the fastest when they're fired up and confident, you're looking at who is more resilient. Who is a better team player. Who maintains focus when they get punted off and are a lap down...
I'm not the biggest fan of Yuki.. but Yuki is the right choice. So long as he's fast and consistent then I don't see an issue. His attitude and character aren't important because Max will remain the face of the team.
If Lawson gets promoted he will not last until summer break lol
It all comes down to sponsors.. lets not act like Lawson has shown any indication of being a model teammate for Max 😅
Would still prefer giving tsunoda a chance, Liam still very error prone at the moment.
2025 for Tsunoda
Plan 2026 for Liam, or as early as summer break reaccessment in 2025
This shall give Tsunoda a good shot on his ability ceiling, and also refine well on Liam temper.
I can't imagine anyone would want to work with Yuki. I wish I could see the look on the faces of Yuki's team when he gets into a screaming tantrum, they're probably just rolling their eyes hoping he will just shut up.
You should think my friend Lawson was in F1 academy making his way up and he Ben waiting for that seat even after his driving he had to sit back and wait for that opening I seen him drive he drives fast
Expecting Tsunoda vs Lawson violence next year.
But what about Isack Hadjar, who's the RBR reserve driver?
it is more realistic for yuki to drive for aston than it is to redbull
Translation: "RB thinks Lawson is easier to control and a much more comfortable doormat for Max".
Yeah but I feel like Lawsons attitude is worse tbh because he’s came in this year with this whole tough guy persona and he’s super serious and max is just…not lol
The amount of articles, videos and shorts The Race has done on the second Red Bull seat over the last 2 years is honestly horrendous. There are other topics…
Carlos Sainz will fix that 2nd Redbull seat problem for a foreseeable future, and be a worthy and proven successor for Max if he leaves.
Give Yuki a chance!
Yuki is a PR nightmare. Although I'll admit he's toned down his temper tantrums, it's just that you only have one chance to make first impressions !
Probably best to get a completely different driver entirely. We all know what happens when Red Bull promotes a promising rookie to the senior team too early…
Meanwhile, Lawson yells over the radio, annoys half the grid, spins, and hits Checo for fun. Cool.
Yuki is probably the only RB driver who on his day could prove a challenge to Verstappen.
Liam lawson is a messy driver. I will be very sad if they promote him over yuki. I would love to watch yuki race in a red bull
Nothing to do with temperament at all, if they can put up with Max, Yuki would be a breeze.
I know Yuki is a Honda driver, I know. However, the delusion in me wants him to hop into the HAAS in 2026 when they're more in the groove with Toyota. A Japanese team with a Japanese driver sounds heavenly.
Yuki is so much better than Lawson. What a shame
Like Lawson has beef with half the grid and he's not even been in f1 in a full season
TLDR : Yuki is unhinged
Lawson has been no better than Ricciardo
Honda still supply the 2025 Red Bull, give Yuki 2025 and who knows, maybe Ford & Honda will collaborate like BMW-Toyota do.
Yuki Tsunoda should join the Oracle Red Bull F1 Racing team.
Why not give yuki a 1 year deal give lawson time to develop.