China's Plan to Clone the Entire Gaming Industry

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @BelindaErcan
    @BelindaErcan  4 месяца назад +132

    Hey everyone, quick heads-up on the intro:
    The flags and game comparisons you see were added late in the editing process and, honestly, I missed it before we went live.
    Totally my oversight there. Just wanted to clear that up and thank you all for pointing it out. We’re all about getting it right, so I appreciate your sharp eyes!
    Keep the feedback coming and thanks for sticking with us 🙇‍♀🙇‍♀🙇‍♀

    • @Damagan
      @Damagan 4 месяца назад +3

      I was going to bring up how you used Saints Row: The Third footage and Saints Row: The Third was created in Illinois and published by a studio in California.

    • @igorbeuk4068
      @igorbeuk4068 4 месяца назад

      Interesting because it's because of the same China the whole World was playing Famicom. Now Communism and in between Socialism to bridge after the Democracy. I will lose my income but if we are choosing between Space and Living on Earth with Broken Capital and Large Volume without Quality...then it would be great if they do it again but I know that it will be the sub level of PS3.
      America lied, it made people around the world to suffer , all the worst in humans happened in Capitalism which is not sustainable anymore. For more than 7 Times it was falling and last time China repaid American debt and became a larger % partner in every Big industry...I will stop here because the rest was written a long time ago by Marx and Engels. It's time for the Revolution. No Spaces Traveling for educational purposes only movies and conspiracies with high level l of uncertain situation and Decay of everything from infrastructure to buildings and bridges and Human spirit. NO more Made in USA . 🧱🔨

    • @FroggyTWrite
      @FroggyTWrite 4 месяца назад +3

      this is great, i hope you keep making videos!

    • @MajinObama
      @MajinObama 4 месяца назад +2

      The only interesting News Channel 👍

    • @mikespike2099
      @mikespike2099 3 месяца назад +1

      You gotta do a follow up on Chinese copyright infringement for EVERYTHING PC related! Microsoft gave up trying to go after Chinese copyright infringement - blatant illegal copies of Microsoft and Adobe software were being used by large Chinese corporations and even in public areas such as public transport and ad displays. In China if it can be copied it will have been!!!

  • @poweredbydecaf1915
    @poweredbydecaf1915 4 месяца назад +63

    I lived in China from 2011 to 2019 and the console ban wasn't really a thing. It was just a surface level verbal ban without any teeth to back it up. I remember buying a PS3 and PS3 games during the 'ban' from a store, not from Taobao. Hell, I even bought Diablo 3 at the time and Diablo 3 was supposedly hardcore banned. You just had to call it "Big Pineapple 3" to find it in a search because 'Big Pineapple" in Chinese is pronounced "Da Bolo" which kind of sounds like Diablo. Chinese use all kinds of tricks like this to circumvent bans. I remember when people were asking me how I played on Steam because Steam was banned in China but again, never banned.

    • @felisasininus1784
      @felisasininus1784 4 месяца назад +1

      Stop spreading truths.
      Let the rest of the west be ignorant and feel good about themselves.

    • @CodeCreateCraft
      @CodeCreateCraft 4 месяца назад +9

      True! Seeing how other commenters correctly pointed out that she falsely portrayed Zelda as a US game (it's Japanese), and falsely stated Saints Row being a Chinese game and a clone of GTA (which is also false)... She failed at basic research, and doesn't know anything about those games she mentioned, lmao. Check her reply to SVPortfolio's comment where she admits this, and then kinda edited it out later, but many more such outright lies persist in her entire video, lmao.

    • @titularhero
      @titularhero 3 месяца назад +4

      ​@CodeCreateCraft she wasn't saying that about saints row? Those were all examples of big western games that clealry copy alot

    • @FatmanQQ
      @FatmanQQ 2 месяца назад +5

      外国记者根本不懂中国。。😅

    • @poweredbydecaf1915
      @poweredbydecaf1915 2 месяца назад +1

      @@FatmanQQ 我已经看到30年来关于中国经济即将崩溃的新闻标题了。

  • @Maclues
    @Maclues 4 месяца назад +258

    Tencent has their thumb in every pie. Ubisoft, Fromsoftware, Techland, Supercell, Riot, Epic, and so many more you may have heard of.

    • @TheManOFCulture155
      @TheManOFCulture155 4 месяца назад +5

      Tencent own's a Part of Fromsoftware?!
      Sounds new to me.

    • @184Switch
      @184Switch 4 месяца назад +37

      ​@MaxTheAnnoyer224 quick bit of research, they own 16.25% of the shares, but Kadokawa are still over 50% shareholders. Looks like just an investment for Tencent, so it's unlikely to affect what Fromsoftware does.

    • @TheManOFCulture155
      @TheManOFCulture155 4 месяца назад +10

      @@184Switch Good to Hear.

    • @AIGMateYT
      @AIGMateYT 4 месяца назад +1

      Fact

    • @BjornHegstad
      @BjornHegstad 4 месяца назад +9

      they are also big shareholders in Discord.

  • @justcademon
    @justcademon 4 месяца назад +286

    I don't know what your background is in journalism, but you make banger videos. I however disagree with the author of that blogpost. Plagiarism is not an art, copying something verbatim is easy. Remixing, building on, and improving existing concepts in a way that resonates with more people than the original, that's an art.

    • @sirjosephpardoii
      @sirjosephpardoii 4 месяца назад +6

      Concur

    • @JustinObi54
      @JustinObi54 4 месяца назад +4

      Agreed

    • @silversolver7809
      @silversolver7809 4 месяца назад +19

      "Picasso had a saying… 'good artists copy; great artists steal' …and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."
      -Steve Jobs 1996

    • @TakahiroShinsaku
      @TakahiroShinsaku 4 месяца назад +17

      Some years ago, i was speaking with an German Artist that lived and learned in China for like 3 Years, she did mention why they always do the plagiarism, well she did say, its their way to embrace Art, like they are literally schooled/indoctrinated, to copy everything that is good and improve on that or something like that, She mentioned, Artists learn to copy everything the master does. They really do not see evil in their doing as we westerners see it. They absolutely see it as a good thing, something to appreciate... Its another world so to speak...

    • @justanotherday5441
      @justanotherday5441 4 месяца назад +2

      I think what you are describing as an art is literally what the blog poster meant.

  • @danielsicko8593
    @danielsicko8593 4 месяца назад +106

    Clones are a tale as old as video games itself. Pong clones and Space Invaders clones was a big thing back then

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 3 месяца назад

      Yes! This remind me of Switch emulator 😅

  • @jimmiestevens7581
    @jimmiestevens7581 4 месяца назад +82

    at 0:08
    Zelda is a japanese game (not american)
    Hollow knight is developed by an australian company.
    They are not "american" games.

    • @BelindaErcan
      @BelindaErcan  4 месяца назад +28

      Yes, very true, and it was an editing oversight on my behalf. Thanks for flagging this.

    • @たなかたろう-u5w
      @たなかたろう-u5w 4 месяца назад +48

      @@BelindaErcan
      I don't think it is an editing oversight. You simply don't know games.

    • @damientippett2468
      @damientippett2468 4 месяца назад +3

      ​​@@たなかたろう-u5w @jimmy, the flag could simply be showing the region of the game is playing at that time. That does not mean it is a Japanese or Australian developer. A lot of games (especially older console titles) have different roms for different regions.

    • @antares_m20
      @antares_m20 4 месяца назад +11

      @@damientippett2468 nah not gonna buy that

    • @arewealone9969
      @arewealone9969 3 месяца назад +4

      @@damientippett2468what, you’re way off mate.

  • @AmritZoad
    @AmritZoad 4 месяца назад +131

    So when Ubisoft copied BoTW, it was an inspiration 😇😇 but when Genshin copied it was a crime! 😡😡

    • @neetogoodgoy6517
      @neetogoodgoy6517 3 месяца назад

      It's okay when the west does it because they insert wokeness

    • @Moji55a
      @Moji55a 3 месяца назад +20

      GamersTM double standard lol, just like the Palword accusations saying it's a "bootleg Pokemon made in Chinese" when in reality it's made in Japan lol

    • @brawlbaby4911
      @brawlbaby4911 3 месяца назад +9

      oh no. the sinobots are here

    • @MangoCake-wm2tk
      @MangoCake-wm2tk 3 месяца назад +11

      ​@@brawlbaby4911yea whatta you gonna do about it

    • @MangoCake-wm2tk
      @MangoCake-wm2tk 3 месяца назад +8

      ​@@brawlbaby4911yea whatta you gonna do about it

  • @GalianMode
    @GalianMode 4 месяца назад +70

    I think a large reason you don't know about Chinese originals is because they are rarely localised in English and therefore, completely inaccessible.

  • @aerohydra3849
    @aerohydra3849 4 месяца назад +49

    The video is well made and edited, but I have a feeling that you and a lot of people in the comments section have this feeling of China being a monolith where the government and companies work in lockstep together- when this could not be further from the truth. I think psychologically people tend to think this way because of the cultural and societal distance between us, not to mention the rise in anti-China sentiment in the media which tends to make the audience psychologically group people, corporations, and the government together in an us vs them mentality.
    As someone who has people I know who live in China, in reality, the government has far less control than you would expect and is often at odds with gaming companies like Tencent. Not to mention that large conglomerates like Tencent also often plagiarize or bully smaller devs in China as well (not dissimilar to companies like Zynga or EA in the west). When it comes to regulation, there are not necessarily set rules like "no blood", "no skeletons", etc., and often games that people think are banned (e.g. HOI4) are actually only sometimes delisted from Steam or other storefronts.
    This also has to do with the people as well- of course there will always be super patriotic people, but in reality quite a large part of the population are a lot more critical of the country and government than you'd expect. In general I think it's easy for us in the West to paint China as this very alien, opposite nation where everything is different, but in reality, the relationship between government, corporations, and people are not so different from the West- especially after they had embraced capitalism.

    • @くるみみ
      @くるみみ 4 месяца назад +18

      Agreed. I already noticed it on the video about Nutaku, but this person is more interested in creating well-edited narratives that appeal to the viewer's psychological blindspots, than they are in depicting the truth of matters, even if it leads to statements that are only "believable" and which are just based on subjective impressions, minor things, or just wrong facts:
      -Hollow Knight and Zelda are American?
      -a poll on youtube with 70 likes as some kind of relevant thing to establish the causes as to why China companies copy games?
      -"In China, the community is growing tired of it all!" followed by a pseudo steam reviews bombing (4 screenshots) for a game that sits at 56.22% on Steam etc
      This is probably because she's more motivated by viewership retention on her videos rather than a genuine interest in gaming, and the reason why she's cooperating with a company specialized in making money on youtube like N8Wealth.
      imo she's threading a dangerous line between informative/factual/interesting content, and buzzlike/marketing/out of thin air BS content presented as matter-of-facts that will come bite her back one of these days if she keeps doing it.
      But oh well, I have to admit this is still better than 90% of gaming journalism right now... As someone once said: "For every piece of media a journalist puts out there, there is an expert on the subject somewhere in the world who is grinding their teeth in frustration from it."

    • @adrammelech6323
      @adrammelech6323 3 месяца назад +11

      Yeah there's a lot of cherry picking unrelated things to try string together a narrative and a lot of misinformation.

    • @mikespike2099
      @mikespike2099 3 месяца назад

      Chinese CCP government does oversee EVERYTHING ... that is the truth. You cannot release something for large Chinese public consumption unless the government says so.

    • @themusicdiplomat730
      @themusicdiplomat730 3 месяца назад +1

      but in order for your business to grow in China you HAVE to have connections to the CCP. Including gaming companies, in which after growing to a certain size, they're required to have CCP branches within those companies (黨支部), where they can also interfere with certain decisions and operations.

    • @comingtofuture9018
      @comingtofuture9018 3 месяца назад +3

      @@themusicdiplomat730As someone who actually runs a company in China, this is not true.

  • @amharbinger
    @amharbinger 4 месяца назад +176

    Do you think that with more Chinese citizens becoming aware of the knockoffs and wanting the real thing we are seeing a shift? Like what happened with Blizzard games being temporilary banned and now coming back.

    • @BelindaErcan
      @BelindaErcan  4 месяца назад +88

      Good question! Yes, absolutely. Chinese consumers in general (the younger ones in particular), are prioritizing quality over let's say affordability. There's a shift towards 'premiumization' - (source => shorturl.at/jJFfs) The Blizzard case is really complex and has more to do with their tight-and-then-relaxing-and-then-tight-again regulations (and international business strategies). The knockoffs will remain, but there's a clear trend for sure towards more, what we woudl call, authenticity.

    • @Syuvinya
      @Syuvinya 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@BelindaErcan Hi, the URL you provided is unavailable. Also, I'm pretty sure there is a prioritization of affordability in general, especially among younger generations, as a result of the economic decline.

    • @CrowCZ
      @CrowCZ 4 месяца назад +9

      @@Syuvinya Remove extra ) at the end of the link.

    • @Raderade1-pt3om
      @Raderade1-pt3om 4 месяца назад +10

      avg chinese prefer chinese stuff whther original or not

    • @Syuvinya
      @Syuvinya 4 месяца назад +5

      @@CrowCZ oh thx

  • @Wvk5zc
    @Wvk5zc 4 месяца назад +93

    At the same time, they can also come up with games like Black Myth: Wukong and Phantom Blade

    • @Gabriel902884
      @Gabriel902884 4 месяца назад +2

      and wuchang or something

    • @Gabriel902884
      @Gabriel902884 4 месяца назад +8

      also there are a few good games already. Play guijan 3

    • @MaxIronsThird
      @MaxIronsThird 4 месяца назад +1

      Wuchang Fallen feather and Where Winds Meet as well

    • @Vysair
      @Vysair 4 месяца назад +2

      Watch towards the end of the video, she did bring it up

    • @mugy9049
      @mugy9049 4 месяца назад +1

      Fortunately tencent doesn't fully own Game Science

  • @blee04524
    @blee04524 4 месяца назад +16

    Its a process remember when Chinese phones are considered cheap knockoff? And now Chinese EV. We are already seeing an increase in original games from China, and its a no brainer that this shift from imitation to innovation will continue. Made in Japan were considered cheap and bad quality and now look at them.
    Im def not a fan of copying others work and the Chinese especially in gaming rn is still doing a lot of that , but yeah a lot of Chinese people particularly younger Chinese players are disliking this behavior too

    • @DOGEELLL
      @DOGEELLL 4 месяца назад

      Innovation? Wtf are you talking about lol
      China has never did anything for gaming never made a franchise never created anything of value
      Now because they take from already trash game like league of legend all of a sudden they are great ? 😂
      Riot is trash they cant make good games get that in your skull fraud and so is china

    • @felisasininus1784
      @felisasininus1784 4 месяца назад +2

      older Chinese don't play video games mate

    • @mankitwong4165
      @mankitwong4165 3 месяца назад

      ​@@felisasininus1784 depends on how old is considered old. I am still playing in my 50s

    • @felisasininus1784
      @felisasininus1784 3 месяца назад

      @@mankitwong4165 I'm talking Chinese Chinese, people born before the 80s didn't have the luxury to develop the habit.

    • @felisasininus1784
      @felisasininus1784 3 месяца назад

      @@mankitwong4165 Or hobby

  • @eilegz
    @eilegz 4 месяца назад +14

    Genshin Impact its the biggest example of how China could also create huge trends and now with honkai star rail, they maybe be the exception not the rule.

    • @thegamerfe8751
      @thegamerfe8751 4 месяца назад +1

      They're not setting any trend with Star Rail though, there hasn't been a rise in turn based games or games with heavy sci-fi elements.

    • @arostwocents
      @arostwocents Месяц назад

      Honkai is a *Terrible* name in English 😂

  • @ShenobiYT
    @ShenobiYT 4 месяца назад +7

    Here in the Philippines, Mobile Legends is VERY huge. I've also played it for a couple of months during Covid, and I can see why people enjoy it. (I've played League of Legends since 2012). It's a bit frustrating that Mobile Legends receives more support in the competitive scene than Wild Rift (Mobile version of League of Legends), but I can understand as to why it's more popular than Riot's mobile game.
    Really great video, you earned my subscription!

  • @ReedL64
    @ReedL64 3 месяца назад +11

    I have to point out the first couple chinese single player games you pointed out(Monoply etc) are made by Taiwan companies. They hardly have any relationship with what's on in mainland China. The most copy paste period is when browser and mobile games were booming. It was a crazy gold rush.

  • @danielsicko8593
    @danielsicko8593 4 месяца назад +21

    There are also a difference between clone and inspired by that this person dont get. BotW and Genshin have too many differences to be called a clone. Different worlds, story and game mechanics. Hearthstone and Sleeping Dragon however is so similar that the later game lost a lawsuit to the former. Thats a clone.

    • @danielsicko8593
      @danielsicko8593 4 месяца назад +1

      m.ruclips.net/user/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=Legend+of+Crouching+Dragon this copy was way too blatant.

    • @thegamerfe8751
      @thegamerfe8751 4 месяца назад +1

      Genshin 1.0 is genuinely BoTW but with elements, it took Hoyo the billions they made to make the game fully unique in later versions

    • @SorarikoMotone
      @SorarikoMotone 4 месяца назад +4

      @@thegamerfe8751 nah, even 1.0 was already differentiating itself, thanks to combat system alone with elemental system plus a lot of other small things. The only thing that is similar is traversal, and even then not always

    • @adrammelech6323
      @adrammelech6323 3 месяца назад

      @@thegamerfe8751 you think the game started as BotW clone? miHoYo started developing Genshin in 2016 as a Honkai Impact spinoff, BotW came out in 2017.

    • @hunterstarmech
      @hunterstarmech 3 месяца назад

      If I can make a laundry list 2 pages long about the similarities between the 2 then it’s a blatant rip-off. The only people defending it are diehard fans in denial. And the sad part is it’s not just blatantly ripping off one game. It’s honestly sad

  • @prisonerofthehighway1059
    @prisonerofthehighway1059 4 месяца назад +30

    The western “Karen” journalism does a lot to accidentally market Chinese games as well. Black Myth Wukong ended up on a lot of people’s wishlist when games journos started trashing it.

  • @yamikirin
    @yamikirin 4 месяца назад +7

    The only issue I have with the video was was with the closing remark. While it sounds good, it doesn't make sense if you think about it cause journey to the west is about going to India to speak enlightenment.
    I understand that point was that "West" is used today to refer to Europe and North America but it felt abit less researched than the rest of the video which was unfortunate.
    Great summary of what's happening in the Chinese video gaming industry tho. I still remember when mobile legends was big around 2017

    • @BelindaErcan
      @BelindaErcan  4 месяца назад +1

      Might have been a far fetched reference, yes 😅

    • @Chengyuan79
      @Chengyuan79 4 месяца назад +8

      Also, not trying to diss the lady here, but ... various gamers have commented that the various games discussed/shown are actually not Chinese, but Japanese, etc and even from the US itself. Quite a few things are off here, possibly because the scope is way too wide to be properly researched.
      I was put off by the Journey to the West ending too, given that I am a Buddhist, and it is a real story actually of how the monk struggled to make it to India for the scriptures. The monkey god Sun Wukong is actually the personification of Hatred, th e pig god Greed, and the sand monk being the personification of Delusion, the 3 poisons in Buddhism. Journey to the West is culturally the "4 big books" of Song Dynasty, which was almost like the peak of Chinese culture.

    • @azradun3903
      @azradun3903 4 месяца назад

      @@Chengyuan79 And what does it matter if she's a lady or a dude? I don't care if an article is written by a tentacled Martian in a cave, I only care if it's factual reporting. I don't intend to ever meet the Martian in person, the same as applies to any journalist I ever read in my entire life (and the feeling is surely mutual). So it could be a talking stone statue, or a wind wispering through a secluded valley beneath a full moon.... I would still fact-check and see if it's biased or not.
      I missed the thing with the games (my favorite genres are 4X and CRPG, which aren't popular enough to be widely cloned so far). But the biggest issue I have is deliberately omitting the word "censorship" in lieu of "cultural adaptation", "cultural fit", "cultural context". Any more nice euphemisms for nasty things?

    • @Chengyuan79
      @Chengyuan79 4 месяца назад +1

      @@azradun3903 it doesnt. Dont be so sensitive, dude. 😅

  • @fightwithdogma
    @fightwithdogma 4 месяца назад +68

    Dyson Sphere Program can be considered an innovative piece made with actual passion from China, even if inspired by factorio. But that's the only one that comes to my mind out of the hundreds of chinese games out there.
    Great video as always, you are the best

    • @silbury2325
      @silbury2325 4 месяца назад

      What you're pointing out is one of the reasons why I'm so happy to harp on the majority-every-other-time China just soullessly steals/copies: It ruins the perception of authentic effort for things like what you mentioned. It's sad, you can taste the authenticity but it's masked by all the BS.

    • @MrKasenom
      @MrKasenom 4 месяца назад +3

      I love DSP ❤ It's one of my most played games on steam.

    • @theonlylunarmage
      @theonlylunarmage 4 месяца назад +9

      Well that is the clear difference since it's inspired by other factory games rather than just repainting an original one and passing it off as their own. It's why it's such a damn good game

    • @UristMcKerman
      @UristMcKerman 4 месяца назад +3

      Came to comments to write about DSP too. There is also Amazing Cultivation Simulator (aka Rimworld's more psychotic Chineese twin) which comes to mind

    • @yannickluecker3983
      @yannickluecker3983 4 месяца назад +2

      I can add Will: A Wonderful World, which is a Visual Novel/Adventure game where you play some kind of fate goddess and get prayer-letters from a collection of people that detail a series of events leading up to them pleading to you, which you can then rearrange the order of events of to change their fate (which gets more complicated later - the logic puzzles become pretty hard). Their stories get increasingly interwoven, and completing their most desired outcomes is not always a positive, especially since the depiction of events is biased from their Point of view, which is fine as long as you don't end up getting prayed to by a serial killer with a severely warped and fragmented perception of reality - but that would never happen, right?

  • @rus.t
    @rus.t 4 месяца назад +56

    I wonder how this would be affected by AI-generated media

    • @onlyyoucanstopevil9024
      @onlyyoucanstopevil9024 4 месяца назад +1

      If A.i bad, its impossible, why u even think about it? 😊😊😊😊

    • @Mythhammer
      @Mythhammer 4 месяца назад +20

      @@onlyyoucanstopevil9024 "AI" not bad. Only Tool. Results are how its used/abused.

  • @MaxIronsThird
    @MaxIronsThird 4 месяца назад +17

    Black Myth Wukong isn't alone anymore, there is Phantom Blade Zero, Where Winds Meet and Wuchang Fallen Feathers.

    • @tigeruntamed6036
      @tigeruntamed6036 4 месяца назад +1

      Wuchang Fallen Feathers = Sekiro Shadows Die Twice

  • @Wolfrich666
    @Wolfrich666 4 месяца назад +30

    ah yes, lets just mention genshin but not honkai impact, or azur lane, or snowbreak, or arknights, or many other games that are their own thing compared to western games.
    while its true that china started by copying games, the chinese gaming industry is slowly starting to make original games, while the west is failing miserably with "diversity and inclusion" garbage full of corporate propaganda.

    • @martinschemmel84
      @martinschemmel84 4 месяца назад +1

      so what about Honkai impact? clone of a clone. The dev is also Chinese. Or do you call that more original than Genshin Impact? The name already is an clone XD

    • @justrandomweeb8655
      @justrandomweeb8655 3 месяца назад

      ​@@martinschemmel84 Tf are you on? Genshin and honkai is from the same company, and honkai impact is release years before genshin even a concept

    • @martinschemmel84
      @martinschemmel84 3 месяца назад

      @@justrandomweeb8655 "ah yes, lets just mention genshin but not honkai impact, [...]" Yes they are all clones. Why need to name each and every clone to make an example that they are all clones?

    • @justrandomweeb8655
      @justrandomweeb8655 3 месяца назад +1

      @@martinschemmel84 then tell me what honkai impact is clone of? If its genshin everyone can see why its been called as zelda clone, because its almost similar, but what about honkai impact?

  • @joaocardoletto
    @joaocardoletto 4 месяца назад +11

    Let’s see how Black Myth: Wukong performs. It seems competitive in both artistic quality and creativity.
    It’s funny how China’s tech industry in the ’80s and ’90s was synonymous with knock-off clone products, and now it is able to push innovation.

  • @dommyshan
    @dommyshan 4 месяца назад +19

    Almost everyone I know is super excited for Black Myth Wukong.

    • @Kung_Fu_Junkie
      @Kung_Fu_Junkie 4 месяца назад +1

      I’m excited for that and Phantom Blade 0

    • @dissidius13
      @dissidius13 4 месяца назад

      wait after its game's success and the game company it's in would fold and become just another game cloner company once Tencent/CCP has full grasp on the company then on. Classic move in China.

    • @Ash-vv8zg
      @Ash-vv8zg 4 месяца назад +1

      @@dissidius13 You are absolutely clueless

    • @dissidius13
      @dissidius13 4 месяца назад

      @@Ash-vv8zg ironic coming from the clueless guy

  • @rameshdevasi6720
    @rameshdevasi6720 4 месяца назад +9

    my game "square bird" had over 100 million downloads, after one years, an taiwan company replicate it and they also get similar downloads. crazy

    • @BelindaErcan
      @BelindaErcan  4 месяца назад +2

      this one? www.crazygames.com/game/square-bird

    • @TWK_THD
      @TWK_THD 4 месяца назад

      You're indian you probably stole the game yourself from the taiwanese company pjjt 😂

  • @blackyivan
    @blackyivan 3 месяца назад +1

    i honestly think that in 2 videos, you are already my favorite way to hear about gaming news/essays

  • @DissociatedWomenIncorporated
    @DissociatedWomenIncorporated 4 месяца назад +43

    Saints Row is American, not Chinese. Also it’s literally a parody of GTA, not simply a clone. And GTA is British, not American, but you have an American flag on it for some reason.

    • @1Henrink
      @1Henrink 4 месяца назад +2

      Wasn't she just saying how games take inspiration on others when she mentioned Saints Row?

    • @BelindaErcan
      @BelindaErcan  4 месяца назад +11

      Yes, the Chinese flag on SR was an editing mistake on my behalf.

    • @DissociatedWomenIncorporated
      @DissociatedWomenIncorporated 4 месяца назад +5

      @@BelindaErcan I like that you acknowledge the mistake ❤

    • @nobilesnovushomo58
      @nobilesnovushomo58 4 месяца назад +6

      @@BelindaErcanGTA explanation: Rockstar has a British subsidiary that’s fascinated by American culture, that’s who makes GTA, not the main American branch.

    • @ReapeR21-np6fw
      @ReapeR21-np6fw 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated😂 mistake in a video about comparing china as on one side of argument

  • @fiddyb
    @fiddyb 4 месяца назад +3

    Hiya, great vid, honestly just watched this on Asmon's channel. Came here to give a sub and like to the vid, will definitely be back for more and will binge watch your back catalog. Keep making informative well constructed content.

  • @Boss_Fight_Index_muki
    @Boss_Fight_Index_muki 4 месяца назад +7

    The fastest way to clone another company's tech is just to buy that company up outright. That's why Chinese automaker, Geely Cars, bought Volvo.

    • @karthur3421
      @karthur3421 3 месяца назад

      yep, that's why companies buyout each other, for the tech, like when microsoft bought out nokia for their patents etc.
      Until anti-trust/monopoly laws kick in lol.
      Same reason why the US gov went after Toshiba and Alstom, for their tech/patents.
      Same reason why the US tried to go after Huawei, and now TikTok.

  • @Devilishlybenevolent
    @Devilishlybenevolent 4 месяца назад +25

    Huh how come you didn't mention genshin impact at all? Or does it not happen to fit your narrative so you didn't mention it when you were talking about the top games played around the world?
    14:30 oh wait you did mention it, so I guess you didn't know Genshin Impact is a Chinese made and operated game?

    • @MrKasenom
      @MrKasenom 4 месяца назад +9

      Yeah it was strange to me how it wasn't mentioned more, sure genshin was heavily inspired by botw but it's grown to be something very distinct and unique on its own. I did feel something off with the video

    • @Devilishlybenevolent
      @Devilishlybenevolent 4 месяца назад

      @@MrKasenom just like how botw copied Skyrim since they're both rpgs right? 🙄

    • @bltzcstrnx
      @bltzcstrnx 4 месяца назад +8

      They need to maintain the western agenda of course. They should try asking SEA, totally different opinion on Chinese games.

    • @azradun3903
      @azradun3903 4 месяца назад +1

      She also never used the word "censorship" in her entire video, only "cultural adaptation", while describing heavy government censorship and inviligation of citizens.
      That is not an accident.

    • @zuriyel5368
      @zuriyel5368 4 месяца назад +5

      There's also the numerous 'mistakes' that she has had to admit to throughout this comment section.

  • @zex992001
    @zex992001 4 месяца назад +3

    Wow this video clearly took a lot of effort. Mostly explained the things that I heard as rumors around gaming community and you shined a better light on them I would say. I am a teacher in Asia and my students are obsessed with Chinese clone games like RoV (Realm of Valor: Garena's version of AoV) or Genshin Impact that I always tell them these are cloned from a better game and it's better to experience the real game.

    • @bltzcstrnx
      @bltzcstrnx 4 месяца назад +2

      Those original games doesn't exist on mobile, which is the primary way of gaming in China and other developing countries. Try opening your viewpoint outside of rich countries. This is why HoK, MLBB, Genshin Impact, and Honkai: Star Rail made billions. People literally doesn't have access to expensive consoles and full-priced games.

    • @KrimsonKattYT
      @KrimsonKattYT 4 месяца назад +5

      Genshin isn't a clone of anything. People initially thought it was a clone of Breath of the Wild but once it released they were completely proven wrong. Different art style, gacha, relics, character quests, release schedule, no shrines, elemental combat, tons of playable characters, character switching, multiplayer, and more completely set Genshin apart even if some things are mildly inspired.

    • @zex992001
      @zex992001 4 месяца назад +1

      @@KrimsonKattYT The game is ripoff of Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild.

    • @SorarikoMotone
      @SorarikoMotone 4 месяца назад +2

      @@zex992001 the only things game "copied" is stamina (which zelda never created), glider (also isn creation of zelda) and some of the traversal movement - but overall the game is its own thing (and if anything - if genshin is botw clone, then botw is shadow of the colossus clone). the elemental system, the story, the characters, majority of the combat, gearing is its own thing. only morons still stuck with nonsense from before the release of the game say its a clone, when in reality - there is an inspiration, and the devs admit to it (cuz they are literally gamers, DUH), but there's a lot on top of it and its weaved together with QUALITY you cannot see in most games, be it chinese or western slop.
      i am in no way saying zelda is bad - but both games have their own identity and space to reside in, and both are made with quality and genshin can show you that IF you actually decide to play it and not bark because "china = bad". And thats not to mention how much mihoyo does for their people via charity.

    • @zex992001
      @zex992001 4 месяца назад +1

      @@SorarikoMotone The graphics, the sound effects, the gliding, the stamina, the artstyle, what do you want more to be Zelda? I'm not a Nintendo fan or Zelda fan, I'm just a gamer and I played many games in my life. Genshin Impact IS Zelda with added micro-transactions for kids to grab money from them. The whole mix of these with open world is Zelda and Genshin Impact wouldn't exist if Zelda didn't exist. I don't agree with you. If Genshin Impact was trying to be its own thing they could add extra mechanics to their game other than switching characters. Their multiplayer could be way better than just 2 people going around doing daily missions. Genshin is just cheap Zelda.

  • @RANDOMPLANET
    @RANDOMPLANET 3 месяца назад +1

    Over here from a 'reaction'. Very well made video! Thanks for the info in an entertaining way.
    Glady subbed.

  • @cannotkazi
    @cannotkazi 4 месяца назад +2

    Its content like this that you hope to find when you're doomscrolling to end said doomscrolling.
    Hits the spot with how full circle it is.
    Insta-sub tier right here. Appreciate the "way" you're doing your content.

  • @loganwilcox4037
    @loganwilcox4037 4 месяца назад +2

    Great video! This channel deserves way more subs!

  • @BlackChocobo12
    @BlackChocobo12 4 месяца назад +4

    Paladins was in development before overwatch, hi res didn't take blizzards idea. I thought this was pretty common knowledge at this point

  • @xdmyfriend4730
    @xdmyfriend4730 4 месяца назад +2

    Amazing and in-depth video. Thank you for the historical context too, I never knew about the start of chinas gaming industry.

  • @RONALDEPAUL
    @RONALDEPAUL 4 месяца назад +3

    your point at 14:00 is HUGE - How many US gamers are using Tencent products vs users of tiktok???

  • @z17neji
    @z17neji 2 месяца назад +2

    You look like a real journalist/interviewer, love your videos and editing skills :)

  • @DeEmperor1
    @DeEmperor1 4 месяца назад +20

    Nothing like chaotic. China has one rule, never allow capitalism to become the ruler of China as America has made the mistake of allowing.

    • @cozy6308
      @cozy6308 4 месяца назад +4

      That's funny

    • @epicenter6213
      @epicenter6213 4 месяца назад

      Biden and Trump is example. Both are bad​@@cozy6308

  • @cynicalthoughts
    @cynicalthoughts 4 месяца назад +2

    Underrated channel, great video!

  • @Williamweinan
    @Williamweinan 3 месяца назад +17

    Honor of Kings was released earlier than Mobile Legends and they're both Chinese....Do your home work

    • @malwrath
      @malwrath 3 месяца назад

      she never said Mobile Legend, look at that slightly transparent LoL logo

    • @pnplusplus_too
      @pnplusplus_too 2 месяца назад

      She never mention anything about release time(?) Can you elaborate further?

  • @east_wood
    @east_wood 4 месяца назад +1

    Damn you for making me crave dumplings! Excellent video too, format and information was extremely concise and professional. Can't wait for more

  • @shockle28
    @shockle28 4 месяца назад +4

    Such a great channel, this will be a 1+ million sub soon, surely

  • @Mr_Bloodjack
    @Mr_Bloodjack 4 месяца назад +1

    Really like the overall style of this channel ! It has the tone of those end 90's TV documentaries !

  • @Tygerian
    @Tygerian 4 месяца назад +3

    On a related topic, it would be interesting to see a video on how Hoyoverse managed to break out of the China market and become a global brand. They're now so successful that they're (allegedly) able to get away with content that's technically against CPP rules.

    • @SorarikoMotone
      @SorarikoMotone 4 месяца назад

      to a certain degree they can, yes. Like having more feminine men in their games (hello Venti and Lyney), or women in positions of power (especially in the not-china that is Liyue). Hell, a lot of themes in the story are exactly what ccp wouldnt like, frankly speaking, and yet here we are. Yet big chest on girls is not always a good thing, so they had to make them smaller sometimes, and tone down on some design choices, but thats a small price in comparison to... pretty much everything.
      but honestly, its a combo of good quality (despite people calling it clone - it has only some things from zelda game, most of it is actually pretty unique to itself) mixed with circumstances. Remember - genshin came out when basically EVERYONE had nothing to do thanks to covid

    • @DOGEELLL
      @DOGEELLL 4 месяца назад

      CCP will ban this trash dont worry they already are doing stuff against gambling casino garbage like this

    • @DOGEELLL
      @DOGEELLL 4 месяца назад

      ​​@@SorarikoMotoneits still a clone lmao the core mechanics are the same gameplay also trash
      You wont fool anyone all live service games are doing this scam of not imrproving the gameplay/core mechanics and just releasing skins pixels and bundles/gambling
      And the exploration sucks the world is bland with nothing to do
      Open world gamed in general are garbage but this one take the crown

    • @SorarikoMotone
      @SorarikoMotone 4 месяца назад

      @@DOGEELLL "core gameplay" my darling, nintendo didnt create neither gliders, nor running or climbing, nor even stamina meter, all these things existed prior to botw. By your definition - botw is a heavy clone of shadow of the collosus and any open world game that came before it. The horror - its time to cancel botw for being a clone fr fr! Also - are you really 💩ing here on open world games, in spite of botw, rdr, and other games being world wide popular? Talk about being minority of a minority person with 💩 opinions.
      And even then - you are incorrect in saying that "core gameplay" is the same. Combat is different, puzzles are different, story (which is one of the main point of the game) is not only different - its even told differently. Also "pixels" my guy - all videogames selling you pixels, gacha games are predatory, yeah - but genshin is one rare instance where you can completely ignore gacha and still have fun for years.
      Hate all you want - but a "💩" game wouldnt be this popular of the game was actually terrible, ya dumarse.

    • @exu7325
      @exu7325 3 месяца назад

      Contrary to western popular misconception, the government doesn't strictly enforce the laws on digital media (the government is full of out-of-touch boomers, like everywhere else). Gaming companies have to consult the government and get approval before releasing any content, so all the contents that get released is compliant with the law ("technically" or otherwise). What often complicates this process is that "activists" (extremists) groups will organize mass brigading, flood reports to the government, and try to fake a big controversy if they get offended. This will usually prompt the government to react and this is exactly what happened with Genshin (and many other Chinese games). The law is incredibly vague and isn't enforced equally across the board, just look at Azur Lane as an example.

  • @KoSteve-sr7sh
    @KoSteve-sr7sh 3 месяца назад +2

    Really well researched video and very natural on facts 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Sanichotdog887
    @Sanichotdog887 4 месяца назад +5

    5:22 Bejeweled is not a clone of diamond mine, they are both made by popcap

  • @yuckyhamsandwich
    @yuckyhamsandwich 4 месяца назад +1

    Wow your video is incredibly well written and informative. The amount of research and data you must of done. I wonder with AI what sort of strategy China will implement to further their dominance the gaming industry.

  • @TheRealmDrifter
    @TheRealmDrifter 4 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for your amazing work on this video

  • @Smile16bit
    @Smile16bit 3 месяца назад +1

    It's funny that I got Nintendo clone version when I was a kid, keep up the good work.

  • @Damalycus
    @Damalycus 4 месяца назад +3

    your videos are great, keep it up!

  • @gamersnest4766
    @gamersnest4766 3 месяца назад +1

    you deserve so much subscribers keep up the good work

  • @blizz3166
    @blizz3166 4 месяца назад +33

    Belinda and Good Work are the two investigating journalism channel that everyone deserves.

    • @Alpha_GameDev-wq5cc
      @Alpha_GameDev-wq5cc 4 месяца назад

      I love how much passion and personality these two show… they’re the lotus in the disgusting mud of “mainstream journalism”

  • @hawkwardd_
    @hawkwardd_ 3 месяца назад

    Fantastic dissection of the industry and the direction it might be headed. Honestly I'm so glad eyes are opening up more to what's happening.
    BUT 6:18 I wish you'd have given Tokaku a wee name drop or something considering you gave her an introduction is all!

  • @䔿
    @䔿 4 месяца назад +11

    I love your videos and your editing skills, (i love you)

  • @matthewhardwick8208
    @matthewhardwick8208 4 месяца назад +2

    The focus used to be making video games for passion and fun. But now it's become profit first over anything else. Even as far as copying someone else's work to make money.

  • @7DeadlyJinxs
    @7DeadlyJinxs 4 месяца назад +5

    Would love to see what our game industry would look like without Blackrock influence.

  • @Eriadel
    @Eriadel 4 месяца назад +2

    You have quite good material here Belinda. Thanks.

  • @FireRupee
    @FireRupee 4 месяца назад +3

    It's not a matter of knowledge being a matter of "public good" because (insert ancient quote here), therefore things get copied. It's more like that's the way the party has shaped Mainland society over the last few decades. "If you can cheat, then cheat" is basically the unofficial national motto these days.
    Add to this the very top-down authority-based lawmaking process, and the very irregular enforcement of regulations, and the heavy restrictions on cultural imports (like "foreign" video games and movies), and then you get what we see happening now.

    • @Chengyuan79
      @Chengyuan79 4 месяца назад

      Yah. The view from the lady is not wrong at all, but is from the lens of the West. China currently just has a culture of money-grabbing after Communist suppression and poverty for decades. Moreover, bribing is just part of the budget. So, you need even more money ... 😅

  • @tkondor
    @tkondor 4 месяца назад +2

    Thank You for some proper journalism. Love your channel...

  • @Rayu25Demon
    @Rayu25Demon 4 месяца назад +4

    All see , free to pay Western games and pay to win like old Chinese games.
    Old Western games are: "pay to play"
    Also, all Western AAA games are big and empty, like Korean MMOs
    With massive items like Japanese RPG.
    The West cloned every Asian concept of gaming

  • @Noxxarian
    @Noxxarian 4 месяца назад +2

    Awesome vid. Subbed!

  • @shm1883
    @shm1883 4 месяца назад +3

    Nice video.. Well researched..

  • @amershirou
    @amershirou 3 месяца назад +1

    man these videos are so good hope u get millions on them

  • @parksteve6734
    @parksteve6734 4 месяца назад +3

    Tencent, Netease.
    they are not game company,they are game manufacturer. what they want is profit,
    never the good game.

  • @salehhomed697
    @salehhomed697 3 месяца назад +2

    I did not expect to see paladins here, it hit me right in the feels I used to LOVE playing it back in the day

  • @Lordhakai241
    @Lordhakai241 4 месяца назад +7

    Found you from Asmon. Another great video. Subbed

  • @rampp
    @rampp 4 месяца назад +2

    Working in the game industry as well, much of this is familiar/true. This is an excellent presentation.

  • @Alexia-
    @Alexia- 4 месяца назад +9

    It's so rare to find good game journalists these days. You're my #1 ❤

    • @karlhans6678
      @karlhans6678 4 месяца назад

      Yup, game journalists are just pushing woke propaganda nowadays.

  • @lukasskukalek2344
    @lukasskukalek2344 4 месяца назад +2

    if they can make em without aesthetic microtransactions, live service model, extra paid DLCs, lootboxes and paid seasons, then I M IN!

  • @snatcher81
    @snatcher81 4 месяца назад +19

    copyright laws are the biggest problems in china, and they don't care, because the state gets to tax these companies, this also apply to all the fake cloths, bags, watches even cars.
    And the biggest problem is mobile games industry, they are making billions every year on directly copied games with slightly changed names.

    • @bradbradson4543
      @bradbradson4543 4 месяца назад +6

      Copyright laws are the biggest problem with the west, also patenting

    • @TheRibbonRed
      @TheRibbonRed 4 месяца назад +4

      They also did this as bait for infringed companies. If said companies want to put a [temporary] stop, then they have to register a branch in mainland & let officials access everything about the company...which said officials will give to any mainland company if they towed enough favors.
      This happened to companies like Bandai, and to an extremely worse extent Saleen.

    • @francisquebachmann7375
      @francisquebachmann7375 4 месяца назад +6

      Maybe they mistranslated the word copyright and thought it means "copying is right"

    • @bltzcstrnx
      @bltzcstrnx 4 месяца назад +4

      Top mobile games in China are HoK which owned by Tencent who owns Riot, PUBG Mobile, LoL Wild Rift, Genshin Impact, and Honkai: Star Rail. These are who made billions, and none of these are cheap rip-off. Those games have AAA budget which requires hundreds of millions.

    • @Gigaheart
      @Gigaheart 4 месяца назад +3

      @@bradbradson4543 Correction, it is the LENGTH of time that is the problem, not the protections themselves. I personally advocate for all patents and copyright to expire after 10-15 years. After that it goes public domain no exceptions. NONE. You will be innovative or your will fail and someone else will take your place. That's true competition.

  • @tazmanshadowske997
    @tazmanshadowske997 4 месяца назад +2

    Came to your channel watching asmingold, Great Video, subscribe.

  • @octopaul
    @octopaul 4 месяца назад +3

    another fascinating video, the subject matter in these and the way you present it is so easy to follow

  • @janisarbidans8931
    @janisarbidans8931 4 месяца назад +2

    Here from baldy. Really love your videos

  • @Chengyuan79
    @Chengyuan79 4 месяца назад +3

    Hi. While this video is not wrong (with its main point) at all, it's apparent it is from a Westernised point of view. My country is literally where the East/West meet, so maybe let me explain it with an analogy. Let's ... use the Tang/Song dynasty comparison, since we wanna explain about China's culture. (NOTE - btw "China" culture is NOT "Chinese" culture. "Chinese" is race/genes, "China" is a country that is competing with America supremacy. 😅)
    While the Tang dynasty was finally established, the people finally had some peace and prosperity for once. So, first time in a long time, they were thriving and were eager to show it. In a very show-off manner, because they were proud of it. It's wrong, but ... humans. Tang dynasty artifacts, heck, the 300 Tang Dynasty poems compilation, the style is ... extravagant. Colourful. Show-y, trying to show off what they have, be it wealth or talent ...
    Hundreds of years passed, and the Song dynasty took over. By then, literally culture is quite established. So, it becomes inner cultivation ... the artifacts, the poems became way more subtle. If you are a man of culture, you would notice and appreciate the intricacy of it. Else, it will just pass you by ... another btw - the Song dynasty's "Journey to the West" that you mentioned is about a real life story of a monk travelling to India under harsh conditions in ancient times. The famous monkey god Sun Wukong is actually the personification of Hatred, the pig god Greed (duh) and the sand monk being Delusion. Yes, the story is actually about the inner struggles of the monk vs the 3 poisons of Buddhism, written in a fantasy style. Most Chinese dont even know this. *shrugs ... Anyway, someone rightly pointed out that this story is how most, if not all, anime troupes are "copied" from. You see, the Japanese are big on Journey to the West too (in fact they were the ones who made the first TV series, not China).
    ... So, put into the context of gaming, or rather why Chinese games evolution. Firstly, very glad that some people have rightly pointed out that the "Chinese" games you put in the videos are actually Japanese/Taiwanese etc, and one even from the US, ha. Can't blame you, the scope is HUGE ... anyway, China at that time has no games because of China government policies, so they had to resort to clone games. By that time, remember, the country was finally embracing capitalism, and they saw big money in games. So, they clone and clone and clone. I do agree too that cloning is outright wrong, but hey, then again, I was lucky enough to be in a country that wasn't as poor as China then. I ... understand, why they did it.
    The government was/is still definitely involved. Bribery just went underground in 2024, and in the most subtle of ways. Like how you rightly pointed out, with CCP's blessings, Tencent bought out quite a few companies (didnt know Blizzard was bought too. Man, the demise of Blizzard can be a 10 videos series~!) ... because China learned quickly - in Western capitalism, money talks and is power. You have touched on the how-s in the video, so I wont elaborate.
    Yet, over time, they gained expertise, and started refining clones into better versions. There are fierce competition even within the mainland now that Capitalism has took hold of the culture. Long story short - China's first noteworthy victory was Gensha Impact. It redefines the gatcha scene, to the point my beloved Final Fantasy is going to EoS soon. Sigh ... And now, China companies are trying to LEAD in gaming. And, they are winning ...
    Remember my Tang/Song comparison? Initially, they had nothing, and had to resort to cloning, wrongly, yes. But ... over time, they gained knowledge and money, and branched out. Finally, trying to innovate. Finally, the gaming industry in China has "culture", if you get me.
    This in fact applies to everything. Just that in recent years, the emperor Xi has great ambitions and finally outright challenged US supremacy. Now, no one in the number one position would step down just like that, and so we are witnessing the war between two superpowers. Like this very video. No right or wrong actually too. Just ... how the world is.
    Just wishing that politics can be kept out of games. Wont happen because the war is on. The differences cannot be reconciled at the top, so the common people like you and me suffers. The Greed for Money and Power is an endless cycle. Sigh ... if you have read this to the end, I thank you all. Wishing you all good health and peace.

    • @BelindaErcan
      @BelindaErcan  4 месяца назад +1

      @Cehngyuan79 - Thanks for your insightful analogy and perspective! Interesting to see how China's evolution in gaming mirrors its historical cultural shifts from the Tang to the Song dynasty. And as you described, it’s great that the quality of Chinese games is rising-we need that :) Good strong competition to push the industry forward! Thanks for writing this up. Appreciate your detailed comment!

    • @Chengyuan79
      @Chengyuan79 4 месяца назад +1

      @@BelindaErcan - thanks for reading. Appreciated.
      BTW again, you may like to search for Asmongold's video "Tencent took down his video". The Chinese basically made use of a youtuber gamer to promote their to-be-launched game for free, and then later decided to try to shut down down, only because he said something that they didnt like. That's mainly mainland China to us - cunning, scheming, manipulative, boss-is-emperor mentality. Somehow that has become the way to go "up" in society.
      Chinese culture can be weird sometimes. When asked if you want something, somehow you are supposed to decline, at least initially. Fake as hell, but ... somehow Chinese culture is like this. The youtuber didnt know, so accepted immediately when the devs asked him if he wanted something. Oh oh ...
      The East/West is just ... incompatible. As someone who can understand both sides, I see no way out. Sigh ... Anyway, cheers. Looking forward to more of your videos.
      P.S. Chinese games are getting better and better, but still I prefer to play in games with English words. Unless it is KOEI's Romance of Three Kingdoms. I would take out a dictionary to read those Traditional Chinese words if I have to~! 😅

    • @BelindaErcan
      @BelindaErcan  4 месяца назад +1

      @@Chengyuan79 yes I watch almost all of Asmongolds clips and videos. Saw both his videos with the guy who was shut down by Tencent. It’s a crazy world…

  • @Mehmet-yp1kv
    @Mehmet-yp1kv 4 месяца назад +1

    Interesting topic - Great channel ... My grandfather always said "Imitation is the greatest craft"

  • @SVPortfolio
    @SVPortfolio 4 месяца назад +8

    0:10 Saints Row is not a (arguably) clone nor chinese.

    • @BelindaErcan
      @BelindaErcan  4 месяца назад +2

      Yes it’s an editing mistake on my behalf

  • @IftyplayzXD
    @IftyplayzXD 4 месяца назад +2

    Belinda with another banger vid les goo

  • @MrDrMedic
    @MrDrMedic 4 месяца назад +11

    Man this is the definition of an underrated channel. Thank you for your informative videos, their so fantastic!

    • @SuperMosesfly
      @SuperMosesfly 3 месяца назад

      Except there are so many misinformation and the viewers has been living comments for her to correct her mistakes but none were taken

  • @cookiebrainrot
    @cookiebrainrot 4 месяца назад +2

    great video! I just played Arena Breakout: Infinite - an extraction shooter made by a subsidiary of Tencent that does exactly what you describe in the video. They took the opportunity of growing interest in the genre, and unrest at Tarkov's treatment of their playerbase to push their beta to market. The game plays nearly identical but the main difference in the huge amount of quality of lfie improvements that I am sure they did to capture that target audience.
    PS: I wonder if content creators can use that same strategy China uses to notice gaming trends, but instead of to copy, to know what to cover for videos.

    • @BelindaErcan
      @BelindaErcan  4 месяца назад +1

      thanks for sharing your Arena Breakout experience. Had researched the Tarkov case but cut it from the script. So glad you're sharing it here :)
      (And good point about content creators. I guess it could apply to many things in business)

  • @copicatscorner
    @copicatscorner 4 месяца назад +3

    I agree with most of the video, but using Palworld as your first example doesn't really make any sense to me. Palworld was mostly made by Japanese creators, and only the mobile port was announced to be possibly made in China. Besides that, it's a really bad example when you want to spread the message of "copying is bad" (which I agree with most of the time). In this case, it was a direct fight with an established IP that slept on its own success for years, milking it and never having their actual customers in mind. It was the Pokémon that Pokémon fans never got but wanted, and it showed. It makes it even funnier when you said that people in the West were mostly upset since, from what I have noticed, it's rather split between people who love it and felt heard, and others who felt it was just a copy.

  • @thedrunk5024
    @thedrunk5024 4 месяца назад +2

    Intellectual work is a broad area to discuss where many countries try to balance the incentive of spending significant time in intellectual endeavours in terms of risk relative to potential reward. There might be an argument about the greater good and the tweaking of some intellectual property / patents related to engineering, medicine and technology although the argument with regard to artistic related endeavours is often harder to quantify and argue for tweaking/relaxation (there's always an ongoing argument about how similar a particular piece of artistic work can be to another before it is considered too similar such that it's own artistic merit and monetization is brought into question).
    Is it possible in the long run this will have a positive effect on the gaming industry from an eventual transition away from cloning to genuine development or are we staring down a future where cloning spreads or is allowed to prosper outside of China and original content becomes a thing of past due to commercial unviability?

  • @clairde
    @clairde 4 месяца назад +6

    China's motto is create fast, test, scale, if fails, scrap.
    It is prevalent to react directly to trends and data.
    Speed is the essence.
    Western game companies especially fails in creating fast because it always uses consultants that trying to predict trends and data.
    Lots of western game companies had layoffs this year because just that, too slow to react/decide on risks.

    • @karlhans6678
      @karlhans6678 4 месяца назад

      Are you chinese?

    • @tigeruntamed6036
      @tigeruntamed6036 4 месяца назад +1

      No they failed cause they are so focused on DEI instead of good games

    • @clairde
      @clairde 3 месяца назад +1

      @@tigeruntamed6036 ^ yep, thats where i mentioned the "consultants trying to predict trends and data" - always have an injection of DEI within the process

    • @Moji55a
      @Moji55a 3 месяца назад

      @@tigeruntamed6036 I'm confused, are you just blaming some random company for all the wrong things in the game industry instead of looking at things at critical value?

    • @tigeruntamed6036
      @tigeruntamed6036 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Moji55a no im blaming DEI

  • @BeautyMarkRush
    @BeautyMarkRush 3 месяца назад +1

    The game journalist we never asked for, but I'm so glad we got. Subbed.

  • @henrylao6699
    @henrylao6699 4 месяца назад +3

    Wow Jackie Chan's learning machine, as in 小霸王学习机 . That's our childhoods. For years, Tencent's been taking advantage of China's closed market environment to make tons of money with clone games. The founder of Tencent became the second wealthest person in China. You know when I was playing advanced games on XBOX360, people around me are playing clone games that have Quake 2 graphics. And my XBOX360 was smuggled from Japan. I have a drawer of pirated games that came without boxes, just discs.
    Things are different now, we have easier access to foreign legal games and chinese gamers have more strict taste. Many times I was asked the opinion on older games, should they purchase them. It didn't matter what I said about the games, they usually just diss the outdated graphics in the end and decide not to buy it even at a discount. Can you imagine someone thinks RDR1 and AC4's graphics are trash? Meanwhile, I cling on to digging old games like treasure hunt.
    I feel like my childhood and teenagehood will be a forgotten piece of chinese gaming history. A lone nerdy-ass chinese boi who played tons of pirated games nobody heard of in a small shanty room.

    • @BelindaErcan
      @BelindaErcan  4 месяца назад +1

      And that lone nerdy-ass chinese boi who played tons of pirated games nobody heard of in a small shanty room is very well appreciated here!!! Your comment adds so much valuable context. Thanks for sharing!! Interesting to hear about the shift you described. A more strict taste. So strict, RDR1 and AC4 seems trash to them now hahaha. Can't wait to see how Black Myth will perform and resonate with the entire world. But in the end, yeah, I think the good old 'forgotten' games are the true treasures. Keep your drawer with "just discs" - it's a relic :D
      And you're not alone - we're all nerds here. I hope so, at least.

    • @henrylao6699
      @henrylao6699 4 месяца назад +1

      @@BelindaErcan Thank you for the heartwarming reply😇. I'm really glad you like my comment. Your video brings back many of my old memories.
      Even though we were small-numbered in China, online communities still brought the scattered gamers together. I was definitly not the only chinese kid who enjoyed those games. Or else we wouldn't have the passionate devs who work on 'Black Myth', 'Phantom Blade' and many other games that unfortunately got cancelled. It's just gonna take too much time to explain the whole situation.

  • @ClarkyLee
    @ClarkyLee 4 месяца назад +1

    As always, thanks for an awesome investigative video that covers an often overlooked topic or something we just don't notice. It's a shame that we have this oversaturation of game cloning without a thought to innovating beyond the original. (At least on mobile games that I've noticed anyways.) I hope the next generation of gamers will push back on this cloning, or else we may only get to eat "junk food" games.

  • @thondergod
    @thondergod 4 месяца назад +4

    Chinese don’t want play US game which is vary boring

  • @syarifht5929
    @syarifht5929 3 месяца назад

    I was about to lace my anger if u said genshin is botw copy but it was just a 5 seconds bait to lure me into watching the video until the end, its very very detailed i even acquired like 40% new info from this despite me have been up to date to gaming news for years, cant help but to subs and like it; its just very well done

  • @SuperMosesfly
    @SuperMosesfly 3 месяца назад +4

    The monopoly "knockoff" isn't really a knockoff tho, it adds enough elements, gameplays to be very different and much more entertaining, calling it knockoff is like calling Overwatch a Counter-Strike knockoff. And it's made in Taiwan, so is XuanYuan Jian, they are both classic titles made in TAIWAN by TAIWANESE. The company Softstar was originated in Taiwan and later expanded to China. Easy way to spot is that Taiwan uses Traditional Chinese instead of Simplified Chinese.
    These information can be found even on wiki, so please if you want to make these type of videos you need to do more research, or consult someone who does..
    Also there are heaps more misinformation in the video, your viewers took the time to let you know, so please correct your mistakes.

    • @hunterstarmech
      @hunterstarmech 3 месяца назад +1

      They’re still knockoffs the only reason the gameplay will deviate with Chinese games is when they blatantly rip off a different game’s mechanics and then inject in to either seem different or to not make it look exactly 1 to 1. It’s not hard to see. Nobody considers Overwatch a Counter-Strike clone because because it’s not a quick clone. Overwatch is a true example word what you’re saying. They actually enhanced the game in their own way with their own ideas. You won’t see that with these knockoffs

  • @xenusci6271
    @xenusci6271 4 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for the video!

  • @Maclues
    @Maclues 4 месяца назад +22

    If it ain't broke, just steal it.

    • @KHMCHNH
      @KHMCHNH 4 месяца назад +3

      It doesn’t really matter if the clones become more popular. Chinese versions of games are growing popularity internationally at a rapid rate

    • @Maclues
      @Maclues 4 месяца назад

      @@KHMCHNH truth hurts

    • @zuriyel5368
      @zuriyel5368 4 месяца назад +3

      @@Maclues That must be why you can't face it.

    • @KHMCHNH
      @KHMCHNH 4 месяца назад

      @@Maclues what do you mean ?

    • @cowholy3031
      @cowholy3031 4 месяца назад +1

      Native Americans: u r right

  • @Trance4mason
    @Trance4mason 4 месяца назад +2

    Another great video - love the channel!❤

  • @Lao_lu
    @Lao_lu 3 месяца назад +5

    Why didn't you mention Wukong, and other Chinese games, as well as Genshin.....ohh, because it will destroy your argument. China can make great and original games too.
    With supply and demand, there will always be a market for hrdcore games, like doom etc. so stop with the fearmongering.
    Also, the Military will always fund games like call of duty as a recruiting tool. lol. so fear not to those people who like that stuff.

    • @JK-gh3dp
      @JK-gh3dp 3 месяца назад

      Genshit is a copy of Zelda lol

  • @hzhang1228
    @hzhang1228 4 месяца назад +2

    surprisingly realistic view and not ideological or pandering to people's prejudices. although that is probably also limiting views.

  • @NavAK_86
    @NavAK_86 4 месяца назад +4

    This channel is quickly becoming a favorite of mine to frequent. Things I was going to mention incase they were omitted - you mentioned later in the video. Great work and looking forward to more content, hope this channel blows up. We need this sort of education as gamers/consumers!

  • @Glonag
    @Glonag 4 месяца назад +2

    Great video!

  • @ghostsword6554
    @ghostsword6554 4 месяца назад +3

    Great video

  • @nickmagrick7702
    @nickmagrick7702 4 месяца назад +1

    Really good Journalistic work, A quality

  • @Soumein
    @Soumein 4 месяца назад +3

    It sounds crazy to me that a government can buy a private company.

    • @retsamyar
      @retsamyar 3 месяца назад

      because there is no private companies in china.. they are bound by ccp rules with their civil military fusion law

  • @cperzam7700
    @cperzam7700 4 месяца назад +1

    This channel is amazing, I am subscribing.