I have another question for you :) Your Zebra Values for C1 and C2 are ment to use with the gamma assits turned on, right? So in this case, the zebra values on the pure log-footage would be different, same story, when you are using the pantom luts for example, right? Can you provide, which C1 and C2 values you use for monitoring with the pantom neutral lut? thanks a lot!!
Zebras only monitor the log profile so they will show at the correct value no matter if you use gamma assist or not at 52ire. If you were to use zebras on rec709 not slog footage then light skin tones should be around 65 ire@@eike.zender
Finally - someone did it - they finally articulated the problem with relying solely on the In Camera Meter - you're a Godsend Jacques! Great stuff brother :)
This is incredible. I think you used the least amount of words possible to teach this. Your words to knowledge ratio has to be 1:100, mind blown. Thanks so much!!
Thanks for this. I think the most important thing you touched on was exposing with the camera meter! 99% of people get it wrong and you gave a much more accurate & practical use case for it! Using these methods and Joels (Phantom) LUTs = perfection!
Lekka bru, so glad to hear that! I also got confused by the meter readings so I simply had to figure it out. Thanks for taking the time to comment, hope you have an awesome festive season!
Jacques, this video is brilliantly concise and phenomenally well put together. I can clearly see the sheer amount of work that was invested. Striving for perfection indeed. Good to see Paige in the video as well!
Excellent video, thanks! I'd been over-exposing 1.3 to 1.7 stops every time I shot in S-Log3, just because that's what most people say to do, but in my office set-up I'd always be struggling to bring back my highlights far enough. Exposing by eye using a monitor LUT is definitely bringing better results, will be testing out the spot metering soon though. Thanks again, great work 👊
Thanks bro, I fully understand what you mean! I also had the same experience and eventually started relying more on my eyes. I guess it's a combination of things, so for now I first try the camera's tools and then double check it with my eyes.
I have watched many fx3 creator videos, Your definitely clearly the best shot. These are some nice scenes. I have been watching crap footage examples for weeks. :)
Thank you for this video. When exposing do you set your ISO to auto in order to have control on your MM or the oppsite ? Other youtubers say that we should always aim at ISO 800 to achieve best results.
Great video 🔥 Easiest way I found is get the Phantom Luts and just expose normally or at .7 When you drop the Phantom Luts its so easy. You dont have to go fo much adjustments. Trust me Phantom Luts is the way to go.
@@armando.visuals It definitely can be, sometimes I can get clean lowlight footage. Just depends on the location and lighting. What helped me last night during my low light video test was setting my zebras to 93.
this is what I wanted to hear. I always set my exopose between 1.7-2.0 before. but sometimes it feels like clips is under exposed on subject. now I know cleary. I should watch it one more time. or two times. haha thanks for the tutorial
But how do you expose if you are outside and film while walking around. And ur multimeter is like really jumping up and down multiple stops all the time? Pls someone help!
In a7s3, in .slog 3, the noise comes from overdoing it or by reducing it further? To avoid noise, how much distance should be kept from this km to km and how much should be kept from this distance during day time and shut at night….
thank you so much for explaining the problem with multi-meter .. and also thanks for the tips for using zebras on different situations.. best tutorial of exposing slog3 on RUclips.. (y)
So you are using Spot-Metering everytime? When you are with your zebras at 50 +/-2 are you aiming on the skin? And with 70 at the highlights? And always spotmetering? Thanks for the video! And your work!
This was amazingly helpful! One last question I have is regarding to the differences between SLOG 2 and 3. Personally, I used to shy away from using SLOG 3 because it was my understanding that it was harder to grade and more prone to noise if not perfectly exposed. Is this something you would personally agree on, from your own experience?
Hey! Great content - I do have a question which is confusing to me. Waveforms - when shooting in Slog3 (Sony) and Using the rec709 Lut monitor , do I based the Waveform of the Slog3 or the Lut?
I'll take your advice when i'll upgrade to 10 bit camera. I only have 8 bit cameras and when I shoot slog 3 i might get some banding when grading. Nice video.
Yeah man S-Log3 is really difficult with 8 Bit but if you nail the colour and exposure spot on you should be able to get away with it 95% of the time! Just stick to 4K 24/25P
Thank you! I always thought I am the only one exposing at average +1.7 at the EV but I guess I was doing it right all the time even tho it didn't feel quite right. Would be nice to "recalibrate" the EV that instead of +1.7 you can set this value to 0.
If I am shooting in SLOG 3 on A7SIII and recording on Ninja V, should my Zebra values be the same on both the camera and the monitor? Say if my C1 Zebra value on A7SIII is 85 should it be also set to 85 on the Ninja? Thank you.
Hey Sam I would say yes although I don't ever use Zebras on the Ninja V, maybe I should try it out but as far as I know they work on IRE values which is universal.
Your advice is so good thank you. I wonder if you can help, if I want to shoot in car of a person talking while driving. How can I set the exposure to ensure their skin is always exposed right even when driving into sun or shade ? It needs to be a set it and leave it while the person drives snd I can’t be in car to adjust
Thanks so much Phil! That's a tough one because if the exposure changes too drastically you can't really set one exposure but in this case I would suggest overexposing the brighter part a little bit and too bring it down in post, there's still a little room to bring up the darker shots if you use Noise Reduction, that should give you some kind of decent balance?
Hi! The settings for zebra are for shooting in the slog3 on monitor, and what about if I use your lut in my camera display assistant? Which settings I should to set up? Thank you!
So skintones 55-65 IRE but what about a non specific scene, say a mountain with scattered highlights, what IRE would you aim for (when using an atoms recorder)?
It really depends on the scene, in that case I'd rather look at my highlights and the shadows and which ever one is clipping the worst I'll bring back.
@@jacques_crafford and to clarify when using the waveform to measure IRE, can I apply a correction LUT and then use the waveform for measurement or does the LUT alter the waveform reading?
This is exactly what I needed! Your channel is a Godsend bro! Excellent production quality, easy to understand explanation, and cinematically engaging at the same time🔥👌🏾
Hi Jacques. Have you tried the slog 3 correction lut from sony? I wonder how come it look SO different from the Phantom neutral look. The Phantom lut is much flatter
Great tutorial. The grey card is just not a practical option for a lot of us in real world run and gun scenarios. I'm new to the A7Siii but have found the meter is far from reliable and I jump between that, zebras, and just eyeballing it. Like the other comment above, would love to see your approach on the FX6. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
You're most welcome, thanks for taking the time to comment. I fully agree with you, I really do use all these methods together and eyeballing is often the winner :)
I’m planning to rent one of these, and I won’t have long enough to figure out all of its complexities. I’m planning on getting footage of a lake at night (hopefully with a full moon in the shot). With regard to the aperture setting, ISO setting, and shutter speed, what would you recommend for crystal clear footage with no grain and the sharpest possible focus for everything in the frame? Also, if you set all the settings to exactly the way you want them, will it stay on those settings if you turn the camera off/change out the battery/change the SD card/etc? Thank you. :)
Remember that gamut asist does not impact zebras, so the read values of the zebras are for s log where mid gray is at 41, caucasian skin tones in a broad cast scenarios sit at 50+/- 2 and a white piece of paper is at 61. On the other hand if you have a rec 709 display, the zebras will display off of the rec 709 so caucasian skintones around 60-70 for the higest point and so on, the values change so keep that in mind.
Thanks for this crystal clear explanation Jacques!! Pardon my beginner question but: When people say X stops over exposed, you mean turning the exposure Dial with the camera set on Shutter priority Auto? If I'm shooting in full manual, the exposure dial doesn't do anything!
You're welcome Arnaud! Yeah if you shoot manual the EV dial isn't relevant so the X Stops referred to are either measured with the Meter or just based on IRE values.
Thanks so much Shahir! I'll try do a video on that next year, but I'm editing on the M1 Macbook Air (I had the mini but sold it to be more mobile) they're both so fast and works great with HEVC files
Thanks awesome video!! Idk why I just got a ninja v for the a7siii and when I try to preview with phantom luts it looks completely broken, how do you get your luts to display properly? Thanks so much again for the video!
Can you please do a guide on FX6 too? The menue and tools are way different than FX6. Which slog3 is better? Slog3-Cine or just S-log3? A general guide. Would really appreciate it since there are almost zero proper guides online on FX6
It is actually quite confusing between Zebra and M.M. For example, I try to expose the skin at Zebra 56+3 and when reduced until the zebra is gone, the M.M shows +0.3 which is a bit far from the preached value, either +1.7 or +2.0 What is your advice, should I just rely on M.M. or should I follow the Zebra?
Hi Jacques. Thanks for sharing your views on exposing and grading SLOG3. These tips are precise, to the point and super helpful. The best part is that you've explained things using real world examples. Thanks a heap man! Cheers from Aus.
So if im shooting in 4k 60fps what should my shutter speed be and settings if im shooting at a hair salon where there’s light everywhere and 35mm 1.4fe
You're welcome! I don't ever use the Auto Balance Setting because it's not reliable enough. I generally go for something in the Kelvin Range that's close enough to correct in post
Only a pleasure mate! You should definitely see them. When shooting darker skintones you might have to adjust the threshold to 35-40 but in all cases only see zebras on the brightest part of the skin.
@@jacques_crafford it's me again :D I'm courios why we shoulndt just use the zebras at 70, as this is where the skin tones sit? In this case I just could dial in the exposure by avoidng the zebras to appear. What do you think? Thank you mate and all the best
YEs you said it. When I hear people giving straight values fit all makes my skin itch. Zebras are a good tool to compare against the meeter to know that the meter gets it wrong a lot.
@@jacques_crafford Thanks Jac. I really appreciated your tips. Others videographer said use Prime lens for good cinematic video. I will buy zoom soon but i am waiting next version of Sony 24 -70mm Gm II.
Hey Jacques! I have a question, how would you go about exposing slog3 on the a7sIII using the Ninja V. Would you even recommend using a monitoring LUT, if yes which one? Or should I set the Ninja V monitoring to native, Rec709 or PQ? And how would you set up the zebras on the Ninja V after that? Would mean the world to me, thank you for your amazing Videos!
Cool man, glad you asked! I mostly expose without the LUT and then just use the Neutral Phantom LUT to monitor but to be honest, I mostly use the waveform in full screen and look on the camera screen when it comes to exposure. Then I switch back to the monitor LUT.
Enjoyed this video. Always love seeing other workflows! Just a note that to get maximum dynamic range, you'd actually want to ETTR, not expose in the manner you're suggesting. Love your end look though! I was never fully happy with Phantom LUTs and ended up with Leeming LUTs as my go-to for technical conversions, which require an ETTR method to squeeze out the full range.
Hey Jac, at 7:02 you say you would bring the highlights up to 95 IRE if you want more detail in the shadows. But doesn't SLOG3 clip at 94 IRE? So wouldn't anything at 94 IRE or above be clipped? I'm confused.
Yes you are right, I should have phrased it better. What I meant is that 95 is where I stop to go down, so my limit is 94 but when I hit 95 I know I should go down. With False Colour I just watch out for the orange!
Brilliant video as always Jacques! The best channel ever bro well done!! I was wondering what you thought of the HLG2 and HLG3 profiles? With your immense knowledge and understanding of Sony colour science receiving your insight and best way to get the best out of these profiles would be soooo AWESOME! They seem more forgiving and easier to film with and grade, but that's just my opinion would love yours.
Thanks David, you are most kind! I actually tried out HLG3 for a while but I found that the best skintone come out of PP-Off and S-Log3. HLG is not a bad option but with the new firmware I actually prefer S-Cinetone overall except S-Log3 which I mostly shoot on these days.
@@jacques_crafford I'm shooting in 8bit on A7III, A6600 and A6400 nog steeds troue my maat🙂so I'm comfortable with HLG2 or HLG3 just not sure if I should be adjusting anything in the picture profile. Thank you Jacques
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I use a Sony a7iii which LUT pack would u suggest.
the one for FS7, FS5 and other Legacy Alpha cameras@@GEFitness
I have another question for you :) Your Zebra Values for C1 and C2 are ment to use with the gamma assits turned on, right? So in this case, the zebra values on the pure log-footage would be different, same story, when you are using the pantom luts for example, right? Can you provide, which C1 and C2 values you use for monitoring with the pantom neutral lut? thanks a lot!!
Zebras only monitor the log profile so they will show at the correct value no matter if you use gamma assist or not at 52ire. If you were to use zebras on rec709 not slog footage then light skin tones should be around 65 ire@@eike.zender
Finally - someone did it - they finally articulated the problem with relying solely on the In Camera Meter - you're a Godsend Jacques! Great stuff brother :)
Yeeeew thanks Joel, really appreciate that coming from you! It's been bothering me for a long time so I hope this will shed some light on the issue :)
💯 brother!
Eloquently bro, thank you
This is incredible. I think you used the least amount of words possible to teach this. Your words to knowledge ratio has to be 1:100, mind blown. Thanks so much!!
Aaaaaaw man that makes me so glad to hear, really means a lot! Thank you Zach, only a pleasure!
Thanks for this. I think the most important thing you touched on was exposing with the camera meter! 99% of people get it wrong and you gave a much more accurate & practical use case for it! Using these methods and Joels (Phantom) LUTs = perfection!
Lekka bru, so glad to hear that! I also got confused by the meter readings so I simply had to figure it out. Thanks for taking the time to comment, hope you have an awesome festive season!
The grading looks so clean bro!
DUDE! Thanks for your support man, cant wait to see your South Africa video :) :) :)
I'm commenting because I want this video to reach more people. GREAT VIDEO🙏
Thank you for the kind gesture! 🔥
This is what I call high quality content! Thank you, Jacques!
Thank you so much Maxim, glad you enjoyed it!
Jacques, this video is brilliantly concise and phenomenally well put together. I can clearly see the sheer amount of work that was invested. Striving for perfection indeed. Good to see Paige in the video as well!
Yaaas yaaas thanks brother, that means so much to me! Also glad you introduced Paige, was awesome working with her!
It's such a hit and miss with some of the youtubers training the youth... but this video Is very comprehensive. Well done sir
Really glad you think so. Cheers! 🙏🏼
Wonderful explanation as always brother.
Thanks so much for this. You're giving me the courage to break away from my S-Cinetone training wheels.... scary yet exhilarating...
Really happy to hear that you are inspired, thank you so much!
Yes that’s exactly me right now losing the S-Cinetone training wheels!!!! Great video!!
Excellent video, thanks! I'd been over-exposing 1.3 to 1.7 stops every time I shot in S-Log3, just because that's what most people say to do, but in my office set-up I'd always be struggling to bring back my highlights far enough. Exposing by eye using a monitor LUT is definitely bringing better results, will be testing out the spot metering soon though. Thanks again, great work 👊
Thanks bro, I fully understand what you mean! I also had the same experience and eventually started relying more on my eyes. I guess it's a combination of things, so for now I first try the camera's tools and then double check it with my eyes.
Which monitor lut do you use?
@@jacques_crafford how are you getting that spot meter to move around? LOL
Best Video I ve seen in this topic! And amazing footage to look at along the way. What a beautiful Model and scenery
Thank you so much, really glad to hear that! I feel like there's still lots to be said about it but this is a start!
You made it all make sense! Exposing SLOG3 has always been a head scratcher for me but this made it all come full circle!
So glad to hear that, thanks Jade! Hope you get much better results going forward!
So you can only dial in exposure when iso is set to automatic? When I’m native iso it doesn’t allow you to manually under or over expose. ??
Fantastic video man. I was hoping for an Slog-3 tutorial from one of my favorite RUclipsrs, and here it was!
Thanks Jonathan, so grateful for your support! I've been meaning to make this for a while!
You make my favorite camera videos on youtube hands down. Thanks so much dude!
Woaaah that's a big compliment, thank you Jonah!
thanks a lot and I appreciate your kindness to make this video it’s very important to me thanks for your help
Thank you for the kindness of your comment. I really appreciate that.
Shooting my short film this weekend and binging all your videos before I step on set!
That's a HUGE compliment. Thank you, hope the sort film was fun! 🙏
That is so comprehensive. Lekker vid bru keep up this content
I have watched many fx3 creator videos, Your definitely clearly the best shot. These are some nice scenes. I have been watching crap footage examples for weeks. :)
Thank you for this video. When exposing do you set your ISO to auto in order to have control on your MM or the oppsite ? Other youtubers say that we should always aim at ISO 800 to achieve best results.
Hello, thank you for the super useful video! Tell me, is zebra 50 on the skin on the developed material or on the raw slog 3?
You're welcome! 50 is on Slog3 without a LUT
Great video! But so you use the Zebra C1 for shooting people to expose correctly ? And C2 for when you are shooting objects?
Great video 🔥 Easiest way I found is get the Phantom Luts and just expose normally or at .7
When you drop the Phantom Luts its so easy. You dont have to go fo much adjustments. Trust me Phantom Luts is the way to go.
Yeeew thanks Armando! I agree, I prefer shooting in that range, makes post so much easier :)
Is this lut good for low light shooting as well?
@@braxtonwoullard1188 yeah but the hardest thing is to expose SLOG3 i low light.
@@armando.visuals It definitely can be, sometimes I can get clean lowlight footage. Just depends on the location and lighting. What helped me last night during my low light video test was setting my zebras to 93.
this is what I wanted to hear. I always set my exopose between 1.7-2.0 before. but sometimes it feels like clips is under exposed on subject. now I know cleary. I should watch it one more time. or two times. haha thanks for the tutorial
Yay so glad to hear you found it helpful, pleasure is all mine! Thanks for taking the time to comment
Man, u are awesome, great mind, most important information and easy ti understand, thx!
But how do you expose if you are outside and film while walking around. And ur multimeter is like really jumping up and down multiple stops all the time? Pls someone help!
I was wondering the same thing
Yes. It’s not a problem if the MM fluctuate. It’s natural
Like he said. Use the spot metering and put it on the spot you want correctly.exposed.
spot metering to the subject instead of multi metering
Zebras for highlights
In a7s3, in .slog 3, the noise comes from overdoing it or by reducing it further? To avoid noise, how much distance should be kept from this km to km and how much should be kept from this distance during day time and shut at night….
thank you so much for explaining the problem with multi-meter .. and also thanks for the tips for using zebras on different situations.. best tutorial of exposing slog3 on RUclips.. (y)
So glad to hear, only a pleasure! Thanks Nafis!
So you are using Spot-Metering everytime? When you are with your zebras at 50 +/-2 are you aiming on the skin? And with 70 at the highlights? And always spotmetering?
Thanks for the video! And your work!
This is amazing! Do you use Video level scopes or Data level scopes while you color grade in davinci?
This is such an excellent breakdown. I've learnt heaps from this. Many thanks!!
Really happy to hear this. Thank you for taking the time to comment, your support means a lot to me! 🙏
What's is picture profile did you used? and how did you customize on slog?
Thank you so much for making this video! I was always confused on how to expose slog 3. This video really cleared my doubts! Can't wait for more! 💪
Yay thanks for your feedback, so glad I could help Imran!
I purchased phantom luts using ur code Thank you my friend 😊😊
This applies to the FX6 as well im assuming. For all your videos with the fx3 right?
What lens do you use
For the tutorial part I used the Sony 35mm F/1.4
This was amazingly helpful! One last question I have is regarding to the differences between SLOG 2 and 3. Personally, I used to shy away from using SLOG 3 because it was my understanding that it was harder to grade and more prone to noise if not perfectly exposed. Is this something you would personally agree on, from your own experience?
Hey! Great content - I do have a question which is confusing to me.
Waveforms - when shooting in Slog3 (Sony) and Using the rec709 Lut monitor , do I based the Waveform of the Slog3 or the Lut?
I'm new to the Sony ecosystem and this is incredibly helpful. Thanks, Jacques!
So glad to hear that Will, thanks for taking the time to write this!
I'll take your advice when i'll upgrade to 10 bit camera. I only have 8 bit cameras and when I shoot slog 3 i might get some banding when grading. Nice video.
Yeah man S-Log3 is really difficult with 8 Bit but if you nail the colour and exposure spot on you should be able to get away with it 95% of the time! Just stick to 4K 24/25P
subscribed. because you showed how it performs with multiple skin tones
Thanks so much, glad I could help! Appreciate the support!
This video is amazing! could you tell me how to expose s-log 3 underwater more or less?
thanks in advance!
I love your videos man! Straight to the point and very informative.
Thank you so much!
That means a lot, thanks Joshy I will try to keep it that way!
def gotta try out the spot metering!
Amazing video! One question you use auto iso ? our manual ISO filming with Slog3? Thank you :D
"I have A7SIII"
Thank you! I always thought I am the only one exposing at average +1.7 at the EV but I guess I was doing it right all the time even tho it didn't feel quite right. Would be nice to "recalibrate" the EV that instead of +1.7 you can set this value to 0.
If I am shooting in SLOG 3 on A7SIII and recording on Ninja V, should my Zebra values be the same on both the camera and the monitor? Say if my C1 Zebra value on A7SIII is 85 should it be also set to 85 on the Ninja? Thank you.
Hey Sam I would say yes although I don't ever use Zebras on the Ninja V, maybe I should try it out but as far as I know they work on IRE values which is universal.
@@jacques_crafford thank you for the reply man. I’ve been searching for a definite answer to this and can’t seem to find it anywhere :)
Your advice is so good thank you. I wonder if you can help, if I want to shoot in car of a person talking while driving. How can I set the exposure to ensure their skin is always exposed right even when driving into sun or shade ? It needs to be a set it and leave it while the person drives snd I can’t be in car to adjust
Thanks so much Phil! That's a tough one because if the exposure changes too drastically you can't really set one exposure but in this case I would suggest overexposing the brighter part a little bit and too bring it down in post, there's still a little room to bring up the darker shots if you use Noise Reduction, that should give you some kind of decent balance?
@@jacques_crafford sound advice thank you again !
Hi! The settings for zebra are for shooting in the slog3 on monitor, and what about if I use your lut in my camera display assistant? Which settings I should to set up? Thank you!
thanks boss, is the Gamma Display Assist better than using a LUT? Does it replace the loaded LUT? thanks in advance.
Hi Jacques, how about the zebra settings for slog 2 on a7iii? Can you share your advices?
Hey Joschija! I haven't played around with it yet but I'm guessing it will be exactly the same if you use the Phantom LUTS like I do
epic bru! been trying out slog 3 at work!
Lekka bru, where you working now! Sounds awesome, enjoy!
So skintones 55-65 IRE but what about a non specific scene, say a mountain with scattered highlights, what IRE would you aim for (when using an atoms recorder)?
It really depends on the scene, in that case I'd rather look at my highlights and the shadows and which ever one is clipping the worst I'll bring back.
@@jacques_crafford and to clarify when using the waveform to measure IRE, can I apply a correction LUT and then use the waveform for measurement or does the LUT alter the waveform reading?
What is a good extern monitor where the waveform / false color features come in?
This is exactly what I needed! Your channel is a Godsend bro! Excellent production quality, easy to understand explanation, and cinematically engaging at the same time🔥👌🏾
Thanks Joshua, you have no idea how much I appreciate your words. Thanks for your support!
You're amazing ! Thanks for all the great videos. Learning a lot!
Thanks you are most kind, so glad to hear that!
that is needed! this is the best tutorial on the subject. thanks for sharing, Jacques. I'm looking forward to your alphauniverse content!
Thanks Niklas, that means a lot to me! Hope you enjoy the grading tutorial!
Hi Jacques. Have you tried the slog 3 correction lut from sony? I wonder how come it look SO different from the Phantom neutral look. The Phantom lut is much flatter
Yes bro, I really dig it. It's got more colour for sure but I like the reds in the Phantom LUTs
Great tutorial. The grey card is just not a practical option for a lot of us in real world run and gun scenarios. I'm new to the A7Siii but have found the meter is far from reliable and I jump between that, zebras, and just eyeballing it. Like the other comment above, would love to see your approach on the FX6. Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
You're most welcome, thanks for taking the time to comment. I fully agree with you, I really do use all these methods together and eyeballing is often the winner :)
I’m planning to rent one of these, and I won’t have long enough to figure out all of its complexities. I’m planning on getting footage of a lake at night (hopefully with a full moon in the shot). With regard to the aperture setting, ISO setting, and shutter speed, what would you recommend for crystal clear footage with no grain and the sharpest possible focus for everything in the frame? Also, if you set all the settings to exactly the way you want them, will it stay on those settings if you turn the camera off/change out the battery/change the SD card/etc? Thank you. :)
So for the examples you've shown, which method do you use the most when using an external recorder.... false colour, IRE, zebras or spot metering?
I use the Waveform, just because it's faster than False Color!
Remember that gamut asist does not impact zebras, so the read values of the zebras are for s log where mid gray is at 41, caucasian skin tones in a broad cast scenarios sit at 50+/- 2 and a white piece of paper is at 61. On the other hand if you have a rec 709 display, the zebras will display off of the rec 709 so caucasian skintones around 60-70 for the higest point and so on, the values change so keep that in mind.
Thanks for this crystal clear explanation Jacques!!
Pardon my beginner question but: When people say X stops over exposed, you mean turning the exposure Dial with the camera set on Shutter priority Auto? If I'm shooting in full manual, the exposure dial doesn't do anything!
You're welcome Arnaud! Yeah if you shoot manual the EV dial isn't relevant so the X Stops referred to are either measured with the Meter or just based on IRE values.
At the end you said there was a course on sony website. Its no longer there. Where else can I watch it?
Yes, the link expired as it was only available for a limited time. I uploaded it here: ruclips.net/video/LOlke1wncoU/видео.html
Hi Jacques Crafford, I've watch all your videos and love your work very much!
Could you show your work space & the pc/mac you use?
Thanks ❤️
Thanks so much Shahir! I'll try do a video on that next year, but I'm editing on the M1 Macbook Air (I had the mini but sold it to be more mobile) they're both so fast and works great with HEVC files
I have the same headphones, book and hard drive sitting in my office lol. Great video!
Haha how cool is that! Thanks Joe!
How are you getting your spot meter to move around?!
Thanks awesome video!! Idk why I just got a ninja v for the a7siii and when I try to preview with phantom luts it looks completely broken, how do you get your luts to display properly? Thanks so much again for the video!
You're welcome Thomas! I'm not sure why that happens but you get a grading LUT and a viewing LUT and it might be that you're using the grading LUT.
@@jacques_crafford thank you!!
Thank you. Love your Channel. Looking forward to more content
Thanks Matt, so appreciate your kind words! Cant wait to share more :)
Can you please do a guide on FX6 too?
The menue and tools are way different than FX6. Which slog3 is better? Slog3-Cine or just S-log3?
A general guide. Would really appreciate it since there are almost zero proper guides online on FX6
Yeah sure, I'm planning on releasing a video next week? S-Log3.cine is the better choice!
It is actually quite confusing between Zebra and M.M.
For example, I try to expose the skin at Zebra 56+3 and when reduced until the zebra is gone, the M.M shows +0.3 which is a bit far from the preached value, either +1.7 or +2.0
What is your advice, should I just rely on M.M. or should I follow the Zebra?
Questions. The new FX30 has 709 and 709(800%) and they give two different zebra clipping point. which one should i use?
Hi Jacques. Thanks for sharing your views on exposing and grading SLOG3. These tips are precise, to the point and super helpful. The best part is that you've explained things using real world examples. Thanks a heap man! Cheers from Aus.
Yeeew thanks Patrick, so glad to hear that man! I hope to make many more like this one! Cheers from South Africa
you're great teacher, 8 minutes watch your video save me months
Yay so glad to hear that! Thanks for your kind words
Great watch ! Can you do a video on false color one day, preferably w the atomos ninja V 🍻
So if im shooting in 4k 60fps what should my shutter speed be and settings if im shooting at a hair salon where there’s light everywhere and 35mm 1.4fe
What a great video explaining metering! Thanks!
You're welcome thanks for taking the time to comment!
This video is nicely put together, you got a new Sub here. Thanks for the excellent explanation.
Aaaaw thanks for your kind words, really appreciate it!
great info , thank you , what about AUTO Balance setting when using Phantom luts ? thanks
You're welcome! I don't ever use the Auto Balance Setting because it's not reliable enough. I generally go for something in the Kelvin Range that's close enough to correct in post
Thank you for the video! But shall I see the zebras in C1, when exposing midtones/skin or should they slightly disappear? Thanks 😊
Only a pleasure mate! You should definitely see them. When shooting darker skintones you might have to adjust the threshold to 35-40 but in all cases only see zebras on the brightest part of the skin.
@@jacques_crafford Thank you so much - keep up the good work!
@@jacques_crafford it's me again :D I'm courios why we shoulndt just use the zebras at 70, as this is where the skin tones sit? In this case I just could dial in the exposure by avoidng the zebras to appear. What do you think? Thank you mate and all the best
YEs you said it. When I hear people giving straight values fit all makes my skin itch. Zebras are a good tool to compare against the meeter to know that the meter gets it wrong a lot.
Great Video. Can you make video for cinematic camera movement, angle and perspective. Can you make video full video editing as well.
Thanks a lot! I'll see what I can do. For now I have this video about camera movement ruclips.net/video/1oHr5oy13MU/видео.html
@@jacques_crafford Thanks Jac. I really appreciated your tips. Others videographer said use Prime lens for good cinematic video. I will buy zoom soon but i am waiting next version of Sony 24 -70mm Gm II.
Wow just discovered your channel. This was extremely well done! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thank you so much! Really appreciate your comment! 🙏
This video saved my life
Yay so glad to hear! Thank you
Hi guys, always using a grey disc can be a solution too to never miss ?
Hey Jacques! I have a question, how would you go about exposing slog3 on the a7sIII using the Ninja V.
Would you even recommend using a monitoring LUT, if yes which one?
Or should I set the Ninja V monitoring to native, Rec709 or PQ?
And how would you set up the zebras on the Ninja V after that?
Would mean the world to me, thank you for your amazing Videos!
Cool man, glad you asked! I mostly expose without the LUT and then just use the Neutral Phantom LUT to monitor but to be honest, I mostly use the waveform in full screen and look on the camera screen when it comes to exposure. Then I switch back to the monitor LUT.
@@jacques_crafford Thank you!
Enjoyed this video. Always love seeing other workflows! Just a note that to get maximum dynamic range, you'd actually want to ETTR, not expose in the manner you're suggesting. Love your end look though! I was never fully happy with Phantom LUTs and ended up with Leeming LUTs as my go-to for technical conversions, which require an ETTR method to squeeze out the full range.
Yeah I got you man, I actually enjoy doing Color Space Transform in DaVinci but for quicker turnarounds, the Phantom Luts are simply amazing!
Hey Jac, at 7:02 you say you would bring the highlights up to 95 IRE if you want more detail in the shadows. But doesn't SLOG3 clip at 94 IRE? So wouldn't anything at 94 IRE or above be clipped? I'm confused.
Yes you are right, I should have phrased it better. What I meant is that 95 is where I stop to go down, so my limit is 94 but when I hit 95 I know I should go down. With False Colour I just watch out for the orange!
Great video !! Love the shots with the rhino!! Regards to Ant
Thanks so much dude!
How do you do the before and after effect ?
AMAZING video and useful as always. Respect man for sharing amazing knowledge for free 🍻
Only a pleasure man, appreciate you taking time to write this!
Brilliant video as always Jacques! The best channel ever bro well done!! I was wondering what you thought of the HLG2 and HLG3 profiles? With your immense knowledge and understanding of Sony colour science receiving your insight and best way to get the best out of these profiles would be soooo AWESOME! They seem more forgiving and easier to film with and grade, but that's just my opinion would love yours.
Thanks David, you are most kind! I actually tried out HLG3 for a while but I found that the best skintone come out of PP-Off and S-Log3. HLG is not a bad option but with the new firmware I actually prefer S-Cinetone overall except S-Log3 which I mostly shoot on these days.
@@jacques_crafford I'm shooting in 8bit on A7III, A6600 and A6400 nog steeds troue my maat🙂so I'm comfortable with HLG2 or HLG3 just not sure if I should be adjusting anything in the picture profile. Thank you Jacques
Question for ya: If S-log3 clips at 94+, why do you use zebras at 75 to judge highlights instead of bumping up higher, like 85 or 90?
I have a Sony a73. The iso starts at 800. Should I am to keep it at this value?
Yes totally, that's the native ISO, for sure stay on that ISO :)
Hi and thanks for your channel! A very rookie question. Would these ways of gauging exposure work on a more basic 8-bit camera like the zv-e10?
Thank You! I have two questions: 1) Are the camera settings the same for the A1 also? 2) Does the Phantom Lut work with the A1?
Only a pleasure Rico! 1) Yes it would be the same 2) 100% yes it will, same colour science. Phantom LUTS are the best!
Hi Jacques. Could you explain EI? Is there a recommended EI?
Amazing video. I would loveeeee to see a S&Q slog settings
Thanks Aramis! I use the exact same settings in S&Q, PP8 Standard (S-Log3.gamut3.cine) with detail -7
@@jacques_crafford thank you!! And the phantom luts. Do they work well with the a1 as well?
Cool man, yeah the Phantom Luts work super well on the A1!