GrapheneOS on a Pixel - Why?
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- GrapheneOS is a highly discussed operating system, but what does it truly mean for you? Today I briefly talk about my experience and what to expect. I also talk about if this was all done for nothing. Side note, I started this video in 2022, so it's a little dated. I still think my opinion stands.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:17 What Is It?
1:14 My Phone
5:31 Your Phone
7:35 Final Thoughts
8:37 Outro - Наука
Saying that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing is like saying that you don't care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say.
Think it is a little bit different. We have freedom of speech, rights to speedy trial and freedom of expression. But we also understand that there's morally reasonable restrictions on all of that, like public indecency and invoking a riot for example. We need medium restrictions. Too heavy of a punishment and too light of a punishment both result in outrage. The issue is when companies spy on you and send that information to law agencies, even if what they see is not what they think it is
Sounds like you don't really know what freedom of speech is
@@arkoutarkout3654 It's a part of the first amendment, so yes I do know what Freedom of Speech is.
@@RealWorldReviewthe old “fire in a crowded theatre” bs.
Wait until you see what the financial sector hands over on you!
#monero #dero
>paying for RUclips
>thinking any amount of premium goes to them
>doesn't care about being the product
this is pretty horrifying stuff
I make more money off people watching my videos with Premium than I do from Shorts. You’re only the product if they convince you to spend money you normally won’t. If you ignore the ads or don’t get influenced, then you’re just the product of their marketing failures.
There is zero reason this guy’s video should be #1 on the results when looking up grapheneos. Clearly a hit piece promoted by google actors or worse.
My videos are for the average person. I explained briefly the idea behind GrapheneOS. I explained some flaws in how people use it (as I've seen people run GrapheneOS in person, but they have it loaded with apps that are filled with trackers). I'm not on one side with whether GrapheneOS is worth installing or not. Generally people looking for this don't care about what other videos say, they'll just install it and live with the issues, if they even consider them issues
Just because you have nothing to hide doesn't mean you will go on share your data with everyone out there. We all know what happens behind the closed door but we still keep our sexual life a secret from others.
Whaaat...why?! That goes against a likely fictional global plan to dominate society slowly by eroding their freedoms and quality of life until they become perpetually reliant on the gubmint.
Same shit happens on YT. Creators sell their freedom of speech for fractional AdSense revenue and double down by masquerading as some type of truth warrior who has to comply by saying stupid shit like SA to comply with RUclips even though that's not necessarily true and it's only true because of people's incessant greed. Meanwhile you can watch the news and they can say words like murder and sexual assault with an extensive amount of ads. Because they don't care about them, they care about individuals thinking for themselves in their slightest
"It's not that I have anything to hide, I just have nothing to share."
4:00
Great example that you’re uninformed on what you’re talking about. The reason those privacy options for Google Pay are disabled on grapheneOS is because grapheneOS is incompatible with Google Pay so the feature is entirely removed with no way to enable it. You frame it as the exact opposite, referencing that you are the product when the reality is with grapheneOS there is no product, it’s an open source community.
5:08 careful buddy you're glowing a bit too much
lol. This OS isn’t for you. 😂
Curious how GrapheneOS makes money to pay the devs
@@RealWorldReview that's the neat part, they don't. they only receive donations as a "thank you" from users.
@RealWorldReview Can you do a video covering the Android GSI loading function in the hidden development menu to install beta version of Android 14 in devices which doesn't oficially support them?
Why pay for youtube when u can use vanced
I use an iPhone for a lot of my RUclips consumption. Also don't wanna log my account in to there for possibly security breaches. Even when apps say "This info is sent only to Apple/Google", I still don't trust it
@@RealWorldReview in youtube vanced it's running through microG not google play
Should say revanced app
@@RealWorldReview>doesn’t trust apps to do what they say with his data
>doesn’t care about the sort of privacy GrapheneOS delivers
Cognitive dissonance sure is fun.
Google is still getting info about you just less of it with Graphene OS. That's why Google is banned in certain countries cause it's pretty much a U.S. Data Collection agency. Great video BTW!
how
@@jamess3493 I have no evidence of this, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if there was some amount of phoning home going on at the hardware/bootloader level.
@@groundwater9120pretty sure that grapheneOS uses that very same hardware to circumvent this exact thing. That’s why it’s strictly for pixel devices because other brands don’t have the same sort of chipset to enable those security features. It’s freely available information on their website.
actually not. Unless you have a second profile and installed Google play services, then yes. they collect data and send to them by Google play Services. but its limited because its running on sandboxed.
What countries?
If you don't understand the topic at hand you shouldn't be making such videos. Just delete it and save yourself the shame.
This video is highly misleading in multiple ways.
Of course he showcases GrapheneOS on an EOL device and how F-Droid and Aurora are the flagship app sources, when the developers and broader community doesn't recommend it at all.
Both of which have been a major source of issues in the chatrooms and forums. This video will just encourage even more potential new users to use those sources.
People that don't care about this stuff because they think they don't have anything to hide so it's okay are so ignorant. Even if that is true you should be frightened at the market cap value surrounding personal data and then ask yourself why it's seemingly so invaluable if it's so insignificant
2:46 see that's exactly how they get at you to the point of acceptability. Package dictatorship behind convenience for the users cuz you know people are fucking incessantly lazy and obscenely dustin when they shouldn't be and not when they should
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1. Your Aurora Store version is significantly outdated, latest is 4.4.2 yours seem to be 4.1.1 from 2 years ago.
2. you use youtube instead of ReVanced
3. you kill apps running in background, which actually slows down your phone, because now they need to be cold-started instead of "resumed". Also RAM usage is not a problem since Android dynamically stops them if necessary. you have 6/8 gigs of RAM for a reason.
Guess ppl refuse to learn anything from history.
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why is it only available for pixels devices lmao looks like Google is targeted
Graphene has very strict requirements:
Non-exhaustive list of requirements for future devices, which are standards met or exceeded by current Pixel devices:
Support for using alternate operating systems including full hardware security functionality
Complete monthly Android Security Bulletin patches without any regular delays longer than a week
At least 5 years of updates from launch for phones (Pixels now have 7) and 7 years for tablets
Vendor code updated to new monthly, quarterly and yearly releases of AOSP within several months to provide new security improvements (Pixels receive these in the month they're released)
Linux 5.15 or Linux 6.1 Generic Kernel Image (GKI) support
Hardware accelerated virtualization usable by GrapheneOS (ideally pKVM to match Pixels but another usable implementation may be acceptable)
Hardware memory tagging (ARM MTE or equivalent)
BTI/PAC, CET or equivalent
PXN, SMEP or equivalent
PAN, SMAP or equivalent
Isolated radios (cellular, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC, etc.), GPU, SSD, media encode / decode, image processor and other components
Support for A/B updates of both the firmware and OS images with automatic rollback if the initial boot fails one or more times
Verified boot with rollback protection for firmware
Verified boot with rollback protection for the OS (Android Verified Boot)
Verified boot key fingerprint for yellow boot state displayed with a secure hash (non-truncated SHA-256 or better)
StrongBox keystore provided by secure element
Hardware key attestation support for the StrongBox keystore
Attest key support for hardware key attestation to provide pinning support
Weaver disk encryption key derivation throttling provided by secure element
Insider attack resistance for updates to the secure element (Owner user authentication required before updates are accepted)
Inline disk encryption acceleration with wrapped key support
64-bit-only device support code
Wi-Fi anonymity support including MAC address randomization, probe sequence number randomization and no other leaked identifiers
Support for disabling USB data and also USB as a whole at a hardware level in the USB controller
Because, ironicly, Pixels are the best phones to mod because they don't have all the third party crap and are designed for developers. Look at just how many ROMs are available for Pixels vs the other brands.
Because Google lets you use your own verified boot key to lock the bootloader and the security chip (Titan M) doesn't stop working when you load a different OS.
Great video
TXTING a MSG NOPE The Only Thing i want a Fone For CALLS and TXTING. Useless Review