Ok, now let's try Bad guitarist with great gear vs. Great guitarist with crap gear. Go ahead and send me a ton of expensive gear and I'll do the bad guitarist part...
Thats piss me off every time . Guys with a Les Paul and a Rectievier,but cant play a 3 chords.No hate against you.But i dont get it."Rich- paren-ts Syndrom" i named it.Or" he cant- buy- crack- from- the- money" crack-fear- syndrom.D
I would recommend doing this: when comparing two amps, play the same two guitars, when comparing two guitar, use the same two amps It does a lot difference
honestly for beginners get a modeling amp. It takes forever to dial in tones but once you find what you like you can move forward with getting a tube amp once you know what your sound is. Also they work great as practice and backup amps with the ridiculous amount of features they offer. lots of fun for tinkering. I still record with mine.
Cheers for watching everyone! I totally accept that we could have picked any number of different amps to compare, but I felt that the AC10 was the best we could get for the money & I didn't want the budget to go any higher. As for the Fender, on the day we shot this video, Mustang GT had only been out for 2-3 days & we thought it would be great to try it. Obviously there are a load of different amps that we could have compared, but we can't re shoot this video 50 times just to compare them all! If you've got a preference for a small valve amp and/or a larger modelling amp, then I guess you should just go to your nearest music store & compare them yourself & then post your findings in the comments section of this video. Cheers!
CaptAnderton exactly! I compared a code 25 to a mustang v1 and liked the mustang better for what I would want. I could go back and play them again and like the code better. But why shell out extra $$ for a practice amp, it's a practice amp lol
I see your point but I honestly think the Blackstar ID:60TVP would have made a much better showing than the Fender. The Blackstar is really easy to dial in, has great tones and is very very loud (nauseatingly loud :-)). I own both the Blackstar and a Fender Mustang IIIv2. The Fender has more features but the Blackstar wins hands down on tone.
CaptAnderton Team V!! I do agree with you, captain. Even if you have a modeling amp that sounds as good as a valve amp, I would still prefer the valve one. I've been watching your videos for quite some time and you helped me decide which amp to buy. I'm rocking my tiny terror for almost a year now, and I love it! Thank you Captain, and thank you, Rob!
At 14.45 for those that cannot wait to see this - totally right Rob. Sorry, decent valve amp for me every time - love my DSL 40C Vintage (and have now updated the valves and speaker after 12 months - it is EPIC with a Gibson). I want digital effects I will add a pedal. Peace and love!
Suggestion for video, which is some sort of a full rig challenge. Draw each of them every video 1) budget, 2) type of music(blues, rock, jazz, metal...), 3) usage(bedroom for lower volume / gig-able for higher volume) Then we can watch different sort of rig challenge every month, with some sort of gear review. (Sorry english is not my first language)
For the last 4 years I have been gigging most weekends with a Fender Mustang 3. It is great value for money, the sound is good, the features are useable and it's reliable. Above all the amp is very light. No-one has ever said to me "a valve amp would give you a better sound". I can only conclude that the Fender Mustang 3 is good enough for the gigs I do (pub & club gigs). Having owned a silverface Fender Twin and carted it around for gigging, I can honestly say that the Mustang is a MUCH better option for me :) ... isn't that what counts?
you are right. after having heavy tube amps I'm migrating to digital. I like 2x12 combos. Must have preset saving option. I'm using a line 6 spider IV. Loving it. No more back pain from moving big cabs and heads. No more amp servicing. No more tube changes and accidents. Single trip from the car to studio/venue. All my presets are there. No more messy and noisy pedalboards. I'm sold. The pros of digital amps for gigging players are endless. Also, if the audience is happy with my sound I could'nt care less with tube snobs.
Yeah, weight is a massive thing. These guys were *surprised* the valve amp was heavier. All that metal - a speaker and two transformers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but an output transformer isn't needed for a transistor amp?
I have Fender Mustang 150W (first version) and I also use it for gigs. I have 3 presets I use in songs and thats it. I can imagine it could be smaller as I have volume on 4/10 max. For the price I got everything to be able to play all sounds I need without any pedals and tuner. The new models are way lighter and sounds better. Now I have valve Fender Deluxe 40W. Sound is better but amp is heavier and I need pedals.
Iv been recording and prpducing for 20 years. Modelling is the beat thing to ever happend. Its like evrething some purist will say that tube are better.. but ivdone several blind test starting with the first pod from line 6 at the beginning of my career and all these tube purist couldnt even work out what was what in a mix. Sometime solo yes.. but by todays technology simply nobody can. What remains is maybe the feel.. im sure a guy like steeve vai could probably pick up the latency from a modelled amp..or the way ut react vs a tubeamp.. but for us nere mortal.. nah. Iv been a bad guitar player on the side of my engeneer career. Iv been giging now for 5 years with a line 6 firehawk 1500 watt amp... with 6speaker its a best with true stereo flat respond. Serve as p.a amp.. etc. And nobody ever came to me and told me to get a tube amp. Lots of time loudness...cutting trough a mix.. the way you play.. the effe t you use.. there is so much variation from the guitar to the speaker that people that beleives they can hear pick a tube are delusional its when they take a blind test that they realised it. The same goes for these audiophile crap... golden 50 000$ cable...and 200000 amps for vinyl etc its snake oil. Most vinyl areinferior to a proper cd. Several study showed that the most importabt factor in a amp was the power of it. Lol no shit.
Well yea, a Fender Twin weighs like 85 lbs and has to be pushed hard as fuck to get even modest breakup. Unless you're playing a 250 person room, why in gods name would you need or want a twin?
Fun video guys. I'd take that Vox in a heartbeat. As an aside i noticed that you now carry Gordon Smith guitars. You need to do a video on them! Hand made in England, loads of options, left or right handed. More people need to know about the longest running British guitar company. They've been under the radar for so long.
@@DivdHrt - well one can just try being oneself and never mind who buys it. Oldschool. Called authenticity. But these guys seem pretty authentic to me, even if they are often prejudiced about gear. I don't think it's primarily salesmanship but the Captain is in a sort Label/Brand rut.
You guys are great at jamming together. You should start a 'Jam' series Where you just sit and jam, i would love it if that happens!!! In the mean time keep up the good content. I thoroughly enjoy every video!
I think you should use the same guitar for an amp testing, or at least switch them around. How can we as viewer heard the difference with 2 completely different guitars....
yep, completely flawed and biased from the beginning to the end. Beats the purpose of the whole video. I am tired of the influencer trend. So dishonest..
@@e.h.5849 Or maybe than can just do whatever they want cause they are having fun just picking up guitars they think would be nice to play. and its a business. not a third party. stop your bitching
It’s been five years since this video was made and today I took delivery of a Bugera V5 for $200 shipped and I absolutely could not be happier with it. Looks good, feels solid, sounds very good.
THIS is why we watch. Very entertaining. You guys are still making hands down the best, most interesting guitar videos on the RUclips. That little vox IS a pretty kick ass amp.
Of course tube/valve amps are the top dog. But nobody can deny that solid state/digital, or even hybrid amps have come a long way and are just as good as their all-tube counterparts.
as someone coming to this 3 years later and as an owner of a refreshed GTX Mustang - I don't play anywhere but my home at the moment, just a pure hobbyist, and a modelling amp allows me to get a ton of value over an extended period without absolutely needing to invest in a panoply of extra (and wonderful) equipment. If one day I'm gigging I would cutover to any head/amp and a pedalboard in a heartbeat.... but until then, it's great to have a kinda futzy tool that lets me explore a lot for one known cost. It's a known tradeoff, but I think most of us falling into the modelling amp category know what we're trading even if we aren't always proud about it ;)
Should have used the Blackstar ID260TVP as the "digital choice". It's quick and easy to use, very loud, and sounds outstanding in the world of digital amps and can hold its own against a tube amp due to the TVP section. It's a real trouser flapper and still sounds great at volume ( in my humble opinion) 💁🏼
I managed to pick up an Ibanez TSA 15H for 150 GBP (converted from South African Rands). Even if you added the speaker cab it was only 212 GBP. The tone is amazing. It made me lament all the years I've spent playing through a solid state Hughes and Kettner. I'm a believer in having an amazing primary tone vs having a million options. I like the fact that it only has 6 knobs and I understand what every single one of them does. I had a multi effects unit back in the day. It was rubbish and uninspiring. I plug straight into this thing and it makes me want to play all day. To me my gear must make me want to play; otherwise its not doing its primary job.
I feel like the older v2 mustang amps were the best. The GTs sound rather flat in comparison, I tried a vox ac30 recently and I've probably spent 4 hours in total playing fender mustang iii v2. Honestly I'd pick the Mustang, the only things I didnt like were the high gain amp sims, but the others were awesome. just my two cents 😊
Those both sound great! I agree that if you are a beginner, you should get a modeling amp to learn what sound you want, then you save up and buy the right amp for you.
I'm in the camp that wants nothing to do with a valve amp. Yes, they sound great, but tubes are just too much trouble with biasing and replacing them when they get burnt out. I like things to be simple, and programming the new digital amps to get the sound I want takes very little time for me. Thanks for this video, you guys are always so much fun.
Tinnitus sucks ass,, believe me. Once you get that ringing in your ears from hearing loss, it never goes away... It's better looking like a "grandpa" than to wanting to blow your brains out from the constant "iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnngggggggggg" in your ears.
@@sydm1073 as someone that have had tinnitus and hearing damage due to playing guitar at high volumes i second this comment!, i play on a small amp now, sold my old amplifiers.
I bought a gt40 from Andertons to throw on my desk purely for clean tones to practice at low volume. Does the job perfectly. I have three valve amps and an analogue amp so I'm pretty familiar with all types. I'd always prefer any of the valve amps over the analogue or digital amps. I also owned the previous version of the mustang, I found it no better than the gt40. Can't say I've tried the gt200 though, which seems to be the one that gets slated the most.
Try the blackstar id15 tvp I've played thru alot of tube amps and it comes extremely close I can't tell the difference in a way it does it better in some respects
The problem is something that was only sort of addressed... Yes, the VOX sounded better, but to get the versatility out of it, you now have to build up that pedal collection unless you're happy with it's basic sounds (which were terrific for what it is btw) and not everyone can afford to do that. If you need the set up to do more, the better option seems to be the digital, which fortunately has a large array of choices in manufacturer, options, quality etc. I just can't figure out why the community seems so divided into it has to be THIS or THAT. Budget concerns aside, I don't understand why it can't be both. They each have their place and purpose, and if people could stop drinking the Hatorade by the gallon maybe they would see that. Good video, thanks for the great content guys.
Barak Graves yes! the thing is "what is it going to be used for?" the tube amp is great at one, maybe two sounds great if you're gigging and only need one or two sounds, not great for fooling around at home.
"Good from afar, far from good". 😂 Reminds me of the term 'Low-resolution fox' - A lady who looks smoking hot at a distance but turns out to be all pixelated up close.
I would like to see the both of you sort out your deserted island scenario rig. Pick a budget (like 1500 pounds, 2500 pounds, whatever) and that has to include everything (guitar, amp, pedals, etc.) I feel from my perceptive, I do not have a lot of money to throw around hoarding a ton of gear. Do you go with a nice guitar or a couple cheap ones, nice amp with a couple pedals, or a kemper or helix??? I'd be interested to see what path the two of you choose.
Charles Edwards Squier Vintage Modified Jazzmaster in Sonic Blue. Vox AC10. Tone City Golden Plexi, Dunlop Cry Baby Wah, Stone Deaf Fig Fumb Fuzz, Digitech Whammy, Boss Phase 90, Ditto Looper, Boss Digital Delay SVMJM: 540 CAD VOX AC10: 600 CAD Ditto Looper: 140 CAD Golden Plexi: 85 CAD Boss Digital Delay: 180 Fig Fumb: 260 CAD Digitech Whammy: 290 CAD Cry Baby: 112 +200 CAD for customized killswitch +30 CAD for a lead + 4 CAD for some Dunlop Big Stubby picks +7 CAD for a strap GRAND TOTAL: 2448 CAD or 1479 Quid.
I went the budget home studio route. If you don't play gigs - I don't -, a home studio makes sense and is a lot of fun. Plus, everything is modular and upgradeable.
I'm revisiting this Andertons video. I certainly miss Rob in them. There is a chemistry between those two because they share a love for music and equipment. This is when Andertons videos were at their peak. Everyone else that has set opposite of the Captain since Rob left just doesn't have the spunk that Rob had. I know Rob has moved on to Malta to another stage of his life, but golly it would be nice to reunite these 2 occasionally for a video or two. I still love the new Andertons videos but it just isn't quite the same.
I think the Katana would have been a better choice. The Jaguar line has always been near the bottom of the list when it comes to their digital amps. From what I hear, the new Boss amps are supposed to be quite good, so perhaps it might be a better comparison when it comes to cranking up the volume.
D NC the Katanas are good, however the speakers are really 'volume dependant', and by that I mean that as the master volume increases,you get way more treble. So I'd go KTN-HD into some Zilla greatness and you're got a rig for £829 👌🏼
I tried a Katana in a store and strange this happened, actually distorted sounds were better than the clean channel, opposite of valve and solid state comparison
I'm a beginner. I bought my first guitar 21years ago. I've owned several amps. Six months ago I bought a Yamaha THR10c in hopes of the perfect bedroom amp. Loved it, but wanted a tube/valve amp. Bought a Vox AC10c1 and found it great at higher volumes, but lacking down low. I don't need anything that loud. Took it back in exchange for a Katana 50, thinking that maybe a modern SS amp might be as good. The Katana felt like a cheap, gimmicky toy, however loud. Very loud, but sounded like it was in a cardboard box. Took the Katana back and bought a Fender Bassbreaker 007. WOW 😳. I was amazed at the sound. 'Warmth' definitely describes it. Almost like it,makes your body fuzzy when you play a chord. I like it much better than the Vox and I will play this amp forever. Also, it is louder than anyone would require at home/bedroom, etc. LOVE IT.
Cap't Anderton, IMHO you have perfectly summed up the pros and cons of tube vs. digital amps. That there isn't a clear 'best choice' for everyone is no reason to apologize. This video is exactly what to watch for folks needing guidance on what kind of amp to buy. P.S. These videos are uniformly excellent. Great job done by all, on both ends of the camera and in editing. Thank you!
Love my little Fender Mustang GT 40 watt amp.. As a home practice amp it's perfect. Sound quality is good, gets super loud and has tons of amp choices (which I can tweak on the fly with my phone). Not to mention it moonlights as great little Bluetooth home stereo and was super affordable.
Agree as long as you stick with clean tones. The distortion sounds are typical fizzy digital noise. I love the Bluetooth for streaming backing tracks while you play. Great for when you have to practice and don't dare disturb the wife. Plug in the headphones, stream the backing to the amp and live in bliss :))
Dearly love these guys. I plan to investigate cost,and process to order and ship needed gear to the U.S. (other than my "Anderton's" t-shirt. These guys are a wealth of real knowledge,and good honest advise.
It’s like coming into the lodge on a cold snowy winter night and sitting on a leather couch in front of a crackling fire to warm up or finding a 55” TV with a fire reproduction on.
Think he'd rather be embracing the roots of his hair. They seem to be screaming "let my people go" They've already spent 40 years living in the desolate wasteland of his scalp. Their long journey will be over soon.
I have played some valve amps that sounded amazing.I have also played solid state and digital amps that sounded great as well.It really comes down to what is gonna get you playing.No matter how great your rig sounds if you can't play you can't play.A great guitatist can make a cheap amp sound awesome.I saw an interview where Phil Collin of Def Leppard said that Hysteria was recorded on Rockmans.That was a killer sound.Play what feels right to you.We all have our personal tastes.That is what makes us different as people and musicians.
This confirms my opinion that a speaker is the most important link in the chain. The 10 inch speaker in the Vox IMO was the bottleneck that made it sound relatively tinny compared to the Fender's 2x12. And Fenders stock cheap speakers tend to be ok compared to line6 and crate etc. I pref the SS Fender in this which surprised me. Edit: Every comment is about what they should have used! Haha. How about just talk about what's actually in the video?
CIRCLE OF TONE Your friend for guitar tone : You are so right. I bought a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 and it was only when I plugged it into my Marshall 1960A cab that it really showed what it sounded like. Beautiful! I run the other half of the cab with a Marshall Class 5. With a chorus pedal, it sounds huge.
Haha, aren't the comments like that on every video? What would've been better or what they should do next (the second thing they even asked for here...). Btw... you really preferred the Fender?! Did you not look who was playing and had your speakers reversed? I mean, the little Vox sounds absolutely solid and even close to perfect while the other one wasn't convincing to me at all, I'd say way too expensive for that kind of sound (and the fact that you apparently can't even play it loud without frying something, Shane from 'Intheblues' said he returned his because of that and I also read it in a few comments, so it can't be just this one).
I was looking for something that I could transport easily and had tubes. The Marshall JCM 900 and 2000 that I used to have with matching 1960 A & B cabs sounded fantastic, but I never gigged with the whole rig. The 2x12 Fender gives me the option to toss it in my car and play pretty much anywhere.
DerEchteBold so you say Shane owned one? Looks like I was in good company for liking the tone eh? Shane owning the Fender speaks volumes and backs my opinion, not negates it.
CIRCLE OF TONE Shane used a Mustang III V.2 for years in live situations and he did that 'Mustang Monday' thing on his channel where he presented custom patches (does it again now it seems, with an old Mustang but he says you can use the patches with the GT's also) now he thought the new GT- series would be even better so he got a GT-200 but he was extremely disappointed by it's sound (and smell), so he quickly returned it. That's the story as far as I understood, came across it by coincidence, I don't follow his videos.
6 dB louder, so 4x the energy, but not even double the perceived volume. (3.01 db more = double energy , 10dB more = double perceived volume and 9.85x the energy) So, you may expect the same volume from this 200W digital amp as from a classic 50W valve amp, but don't expect 50 or 200 Watts to be 5 or 20 times as loud, regardless of valve or not
@Lynn Collett - 10dB is easy to demonstrate - when the TV commercials are running, they are about 10dB louder than the program thanks to heavy use of volume compression.
@KC get out your sound pressure level meter sometime and measure it yourself. When the TV commercials are running, the average sound level rises by approximately 10 dB because the commercials are using high levels of compression - they amplify the sound and clip the peaks so the peak level doesn't increase.
Is loudness as important as it used to be? It seems to me most gigs the amps are miced and run through the PA. An over driven small amp can sound awesome and balanced volume-wise with the band.
Good luck with a single 12 cutting through the mix of drums and bass amps if it isnt mic'd.. and although you are usually mic'd every once in awhile guitars aren't and you are told to turn up.. I've played in all kinds of venues.. one time the guitars overloaded the sound system because one of the bridges amps on the system blew.. so we had to turn up the amps and only mic vocals.. it's a wild life gigging to rely on a small amp
@@MichaelZuriel I use a 90s teal stripe 80 watt peavey bandit 1x12 and it sounds damn near like a Marshall and cuts through beautifully and easily with me John bonham/ Lars ulrich style drummer with the largest sticks and largest tama drum kit you can get
Digital amps in my opinion are extremely underated. My dad uses a Marshall Code 50, Took it to a show where hjis band opened for stryper and their tech was blown away. Hes got his settings so dialed in, All he had to do was mic it tothe PA and go
That's my OCD done in, mixed nomenclature. 12AX7 USA designation, EL84 UK designation. So, 12AX7 and 6BQ5 or ECC83 and EL84. Incidentally the original Mullard coding is: E - 6.3V heater, C - triode, L - output pentode or tetrode; to name but a few. Now, decibels (one tenth of a Bel), 3dB is x2 or half, 6dB is x4 or quarter. Our hearing is logarithmic so to perceive sound twice as loud is a 10dB increase. Try it without looking at your sound meter, at a sensible reference level because 114dBA (A is relative to the perception of noise by the ear and weighted for frequency) is seriously dangerous. Wind the volume until you think it's twice as loud and look at the meter. Love the videos, keep at it !!
Cap'n and Chappers! You missed the opportunity to do Headrush (or Helix) vs. equivalent-cash-spent on a tube head + pedals (within the total budget of the Headrush). Maybe next time?
I bought a Marshall CODE 50 from your fantastic emporium of musical instrumentation and I am very impressed with it (I previously had a TSL 122 (also from your store) the only drawback is it's a bit loud to play at home so i have had to bust out the headphones most of the time.
totally agree with the instant access to regular amps, there was a bit of a learning curve with the code with the phone app etc but once you get past that its incredible and you do get so many choices (some might say too many)
yeah it was a bit fiddly to get it working but after a swift bit of googling i got there in the end (Marshall really need to make the instructions clearer or simplify it)
I've got a CODE25. It's a nice amp, but I could never even get the Bluetooth connection to work on it. It just wouldn't come up on any of my devices when I turned it on 😟.
there was a bit of trickery pairing them, you have to go to your phones settings and authorise the app and then pair them in a specific order, ill try and find the link i used for you...
I love these videos. As someone that manufactures audio products based around valves (tubes), this video just reinforces what we tell our customers which is that valves and transformers are the real deal and everything else is just a photocopy of reality. When you hit an output transformer hard, the transformer rings like a bell and does so at frequencies that modern opamps dont even see. Reality bests digital every time.
My conclusion has long been that its just personal preference. I'm glad you guys mentioned the plug n play vs having to fiddle around and learn the modeling amp before getting the sounds you want. Personally, I like the loads of options and the fact that I have MANY different very nice sounds that I can get with my vip3, but I can definitely appreciate that some people just don't want to have to spend the time to learn how to get what they want out of a modeling amp... no matter how versatile.My biggest complaint about modeling amps is actually just leveling the volume across different presets. Other than that, literally over the course of years for my last modeling amp, ANY time I had the itch for a different amp, all I had to do was fiddle around with my amp and find a new sound that I liked. It really is like have a room full of very nice amps, tube or otherwise, all in one relatively inexpensive box.
8bigtubes well, if you consider that a solid state circuit is mainly transistor based, then you have to consider that the transistors in valve amps are "solid state", the meaning of a valve amp is that it's including valves in some part of his circuit, so some parts are "solid state", because I think there is no electronic circuit without transistors
Tomer Avira, could you expand on your last sentence? There are lots of valve amps that have no transistors anywhere in their circuits. They might have other semiconductor devices, like diodes, but no transistors.
Tomer, a solid state amp is entirely dependent on transistors. The transistor is the signal amplifying component. A valve amplifier is dependent on the valves because the valve is the amplifying component. Valve amplification is the older technology predating the invention of the transistor. Anything using both valves and transistors is a hybrid circuit
Valve amp, in general, means the entire SIGNAL PATH has no semiconductors (diodes, transistors). The power supply of the amp, on the other hand, usualy has diodes for transforming AC into DC, valves need DC power, but those diodes do not get into the signal path. So, the entire tone is free of "solid-state" stuff.
Exactly. That's why the 2210 and 2205 were not as sought after as their predecessors the 2203 and the 2204. The 2210 and 2205 used diode clipping to produce the extra gain. The 2203 and 2204, however, were all tube gain stages. No diode clipping whatsoever.
Where can I buy tickets for your video recording session? I can imagine myself just standing near by and enjoy you guys talk about amps and guitars :-) Once I'm thinking about it, you could make a live show and name it "TOP GAIN". I bet you'd have many viewers :-)
TheMrFlitz and of course: how fast can the new Chapman Cap10 play the test track? Of course played by a professional Guitar Racer. Some say, he never cuts his nails and that he can play every lick with his tongue. All we know is: he's called the 'Pick'.
Lol.Great.Or one of 'picks' foreign cousins depending where the guitar was build?.Their pretty fast too.And wich could be moded for campfire etc. Your brillant.
second hand hot rod deluxe and blues junior £300-350, I got my hot rod for £350 and it was only 8 months old, in mint condition 👍 if you're looking for an amp go second hand. you should do some sort of second hand challenge and in the blues said the same thing about the smell in the GT
Having the same dilemma currently and pretty sure I'm going valve as well. Although the Katana is very interesting. What they should have done was put the AC-10 through a 2X12 and compare. Think the mustang would have been even more in the shit.
My dilemma was a little more complicated, I eventually ordered the Blacksar HT1 head and 112 cab (bronco edition) from Andertons due to the great returns policy just in case it wasn't the right thing. My dilemma was I wanted to record and the features of digital were quite attractive such as direct recording, lots of sounds and they sound good at low volume (I cant crank where I am) so I wanted to see if this emulated out was all it was cracked up to be. In the end I decided that the emulated out of the Blackstar KICKS ASS and kept it. As for digital I still think for what I'm doing it can be more flexible so for effects and sounds I have guitar rig but when I want that authentic valve response the Blackstar is amazing! PS, to rob and the captain I think this video was more informative then you think!
There are so many considerations. Recording or not, can crank it or not. My thing is I do record my own stuff just for me. Not in a band and I'm far more interested in audio fidelity than volume. I agree about the video. All of these different comparisons give those of us watching more to help inform our choices. Just watched the VOX AV series video and I have to say they are quite impressive at least on the video. In a perfect world I'd have Bea's dual Kraken rig at home volume levels, but yeah...
There's almost too much on the market and can be daunting for newcomers to the industry. Option paralysis can make choosing gear a nightmare and can also make you second guess choices you've already made. So much marketing and endorsements from top players, its nice to see two guys who are happy to demo and call out a great product whether they gain from it or not. Yes they can be biased but who isn't when it comes to tone and gear? at least these guys give the people a place to start! also the victory amps are gorgeous and I especially love the cabs. btw have you seen robs video on how to sound like yourself? I recommend it for the option paralysis thing.
I saw it in the video list but haven't watched it yet. Totally agree with your sentiments. I can't say enough good about Rob, Lee, Bea and all the Anderton's crowd. Hours of entertainment and they keep pushing me to just enjoy music.
Good for you guys standing your ground! Let me just start by saying that I enjoy and appreciate you guys and your videos. I’ve seen some of the derogatory and negativity you are referring to and it is uncalled for. If for any reason any of you folks at Andertons reads this, know that the amount of people who enjoy your videos goes WAY beyond the amount of likes and positive feedback that RUclips shows. It seems like in all things in life there is always a small minority of folks who are negative; they are toxic and if you feed into those types of people they will ruin it for you and everyone else. That said, please don’t give any time or pay any mind to those negative people and keep posting great videos as you have been. Cheers from the USA gentlemen!!
I've been watching youtube videos since 1903, and this is my very first comment (i think). You two make the best review videos of anything. I watch car reviews, movie reviews, taco reviews, pajama reviews, dirt reviews, and on and on. and nobody does it like you two. top notch. I usually don't even care what you're reviewing. This one for example, I already know what my preference is (valves), and i don't need anybody to reinforce it, yet I sat here and watched it all the way through.
If you're being pedantic, basically 90% of pedals are not entirely analog. That said, I would like to see a comparison between a selection of oft-used "single serving" pedals and the same kind of effect on a multiFX pedal.
(Five years after, skipping 2.9k comments) The real question seems to me [matter of perception] whether you want an amplifier (here: active loudspeaker) that just amplifies its input signal as correctly as possible (a PA loudspeaker) or one that amplifies the input provided by an electric guitar in a way that satisfies the guitar player the fullest. In the latter case, the amp should be considered a part of the effects chain [matter of opinion]. In this video, the question seems [matter of perception] whether valves positively contribute to the effects chain. Both Rob and Lee seem to have some rock sound in mind. Yes, for that sound, valves seem to do the trick. Me (66), I hadn't grasped that difference until very recently. I had replaced my 10W guitar amps (for home use, obviously) with 320W PA-speakers, and I was glad to hear my bass guitar sound really low. Then, as it dawned on me (in which a Brian May Red Special was instrumental), I ordered a dedicated guitar amp (Marshall Code 50, after obviously considering a Vox) and ("I don't know what I may have been missing") a dedicated bass amp (Boss Katana-210 Bass). I'll see (I mean: hear)... :-)
I have a gt100 and a vox ac30 I really love my GT100 and when I'm at home noodling or jamming with friends i find myself only using the mustang GT100. It has so many presets and built in effects that when you are used to the features I just plug and go through my 200 presets and dont even use pedals. Agreed for sound quality the Vox does have that good tube sound and that's why I use it for gigs.
@Landslide The point of the video has ZERO to do with what "Guitar Heroes" play. It was specifically about practice amps or bedroom amps. Not only that but it's based within a budget price range. So the Katana is compatible and comparable in both the subject matter and the point of the video,.. Not a Marshall 100w DSL Half stack.
@Landslide Again, what your talking about has nothing to do with the purpose of this video. But while you insist on a subjective comparison of a general tube amp vs a Katana 50.. Take a moment and just listen to this video in it's entirety...Its not very long and worth listening to. ruclips.net/video/j4SueVfXWMI/видео.html
@Landslide The Orange Crush is a solid state amp. And "guitar heroes" often practice with solid state amps. But I'd be willing to bet that you couldn't tell a tube amp from a solid state amp in a blind listening test.You think you could, but you probably couldn't. And even if you managed to tell the difference, you'd be amazed at how small the difference is between them. But it's almost beside the point. If you're not a making a living playing music--and sadly few persons are these days--why the fuck would you spend one or two thousand dollars on a big, heavy, fragile tube amp head? And you're going to have to pay to keep that thing running, as well as make sure nobody walks off with it when you have your back turned.
Lucas Kress The Bugera V5 is a great small valve amp. 5 watts and takes pedals really well. Though you definitely will need the pedals, as its gain is not great on its own. (Overdrive pedal in front makes it really nice though).
Sound proofing your room works WONDERS. I couldn't even close to crank my 5 watt before I sound proofed my apt, but now I can get a 15 watt to open up a lil bit. I had to do a couple of stupid ass tests where I literally just had a buddy stand outside while I got louder and louder until he heard. Don't try to find the Goldilocks amp, just soundproof your room
I have a Hughes & Kettner Tubemeister 18 head that is designed for the bedroom user. It has a built in attenuator (18W, 5W, 1W, or 0W to the speakers) and a built-in DI with cab ermulation. Also has FX loop and 3 channels of gain, and an optional foot switch. I use it with a Mesa 2x12 closed back cab loaded with Vintage 30s. The TM-18 is super versatile, and I can use it with headphones in the dead of night without waking everyone. I also have an old Line 6 Amplifi FX100 multi effects pedal that I have gradually learned how to get the most out of, it's actually pretty good stand-alone for bedroom headphone use too. I would not recommend the FX100 for gigging, though. There are many reviews online that go into detail on why.
I had the Fender Mustang GT 100 (paid 399.99) and sold it three days ago (289.99) and bought the Orange Rocker 32... I feel good about the upgrade.. Always enjoy the videos guys...
Tomer Avira unlucky, that would be epic if they had. I had a chance to play on hagstrom and tokai and Gibson and those three brands would be perfect to do a blindfold challenge.
You'll never see Andertons compare to Japanese gear. They don't sell "unofficial" stuff, and more importantly, this would open their audiences' mind to the 2nd hand market too much.
I agree with Lee on the comment about digital modeling amps sounding great until you hear it side by side with a Valve amp. The Boss Katana sounded exactly like a Valve amp to me until I played side by side with my Jet City 20 watt combo. I bought the Jet City used for $150 too. The 20 watt 1×12 is every bit as loud as the 100 watt digital 1×12. The biggest difference is that I paid twice as much for the Boss Katana. The only thing that I like about the Katana is that it has plenty of usable effects built in. If I could do it again I wouldn't have bought the Katana. I didnt realize how inexpensive a used Valve amp is or realize that 20 Valve watts was enough for me to play with a hard hitting drummer.
The Johnson Millennium & Marquis modeling amps are actually quite good, weren't cheap, but is no longer in business....you can get a decent used deal, but they soar and fall in price, so keep ur eye open, if its of interest.
Who would write derogatory comments about you guys?!....you're the reason that I watch RUclips at all...I found it not only amusing but i learn alot about guitars too...
How about about hybrid vs full valve? It's no surprise that full digital amps are not better than full valve, but there are some amazing hybrid amps out there that sound amazingly.
Most of those "hybrid amps" use one tube with the plate running at 9-10 volts. Mostly a gimmick and a marketing scheme that goes like "Wow look, it has a tube inside!". It's called "starved plate" which can sometimes give a cool sound, but isn't anything like a real cranked valve amp break up.
I jam at my buddies house who has a Marshall VS100 on a 4x12. It's a "Valve State." It's just kinda mehhh. Better than an SS, but nothing on full on valve tone. Thats why I take my Orange TT 1x12 Combo over there 😁 1 O'clock gain and tone, at 3/4 volume...bliss.
I wanted to add, I wish you both would play both amps when you do amp comparisons b/c you both play at different levels and you use different guitars. Having a same guitar/same player testing both makes it easier to hear the difference. Keep it up.
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Ok, now let's try Bad guitarist with great gear vs. Great guitarist with crap gear. Go ahead and send me a ton of expensive gear and I'll do the bad guitarist part...
Rob VanDusen hahahahaha, I wish
Rob VanDusen Yesssss
10/10 for effort hahha
brilliant hahahahahah
Thats piss me off every time . Guys with a Les Paul and a Rectievier,but cant play a 3 chords.No hate against you.But i dont get it."Rich- paren-ts Syndrom" i named it.Or" he cant- buy- crack- from- the- money" crack-fear- syndrom.D
I would recommend doing this: when comparing two amps, play the same two guitars, when comparing two guitar, use the same two amps
It does a lot difference
Given that it's now 3 years later and frankly a lot has changed in amplifier-land, can we get a revisit of this concept?
- i 2nd this request !
I 3rd this request
i 4th this
I'm new to the amp world, could you give me a rough idea of what's changed?
I 6th this request
Team D vs. Team V.
Ain’t it always that way? ;)
Ric Crouch results in a production called Team K
SlayerRock4ever unless you choose team A
Giggity
@@Lukas-mu2tw What's team A?
@@51MontyPython Oh, my sweat summer child...
honestly for beginners get a modeling amp. It takes forever to dial in tones but once you find what you like you can move forward with getting a tube amp once you know what your sound is. Also they work great as practice and backup amps with the ridiculous amount of features they offer. lots of fun for tinkering. I still record with mine.
Cheers for watching everyone! I totally accept that we could have picked any number of different amps to compare, but I felt that the AC10 was the best we could get for the money & I didn't want the budget to go any higher. As for the Fender, on the day we shot this video, Mustang GT had only been out for 2-3 days & we thought it would be great to try it. Obviously there are a load of different amps that we could have compared, but we can't re shoot this video 50 times just to compare them all! If you've got a preference for a small valve amp and/or a larger modelling amp, then I guess you should just go to your nearest music store & compare them yourself & then post your findings in the comments section of this video. Cheers!
CaptAnderton exactly! I compared a code 25 to a mustang v1 and liked the mustang better for what I would want. I could go back and play them again and like the code better. But why shell out extra $$ for a practice amp, it's a practice amp lol
Why not going cheaper, like a Laney or so?
I'd hoped you would choose the Blackstar HT5R but it wasn't to be. So near!!!!
I see your point but I honestly think the Blackstar ID:60TVP would have made a much better showing than the Fender. The Blackstar is really easy to dial in, has great tones and is very very loud (nauseatingly loud :-)). I own both the Blackstar and a Fender Mustang IIIv2. The Fender has more features but the Blackstar wins hands down on tone.
CaptAnderton Team V!! I do agree with you, captain. Even if you have a modeling amp that sounds as good as a valve amp, I would still prefer the valve one.
I've been watching your videos for quite some time and you helped me decide which amp to buy. I'm rocking my tiny terror for almost a year now, and I love it!
Thank you Captain, and thank you, Rob!
Loved it when Rob just looked at the camera after his $4000 guitar comment that the Captain didn't notice.
At 14.45 for those that cannot wait to see this - totally right Rob. Sorry, decent valve amp for me every time - love my DSL 40C Vintage (and have now updated the valves and speaker after 12 months - it is EPIC with a Gibson). I want digital effects I will add a pedal. Peace and love!
I wish there was a montage of just Chappers eyebrow raised stares after a comment.
Suggestion for video, which is some sort of a full rig challenge.
Draw each of them every video
1) budget,
2) type of music(blues, rock, jazz, metal...),
3) usage(bedroom for lower volume / gig-able for higher volume)
Then we can watch different sort of rig challenge every month, with some sort of gear review.
(Sorry english is not my first language)
Derick Ng I like this idea
Ryan frappier
I'd watch that
I love how the conversation devolved into dating advice.
For the last 4 years I have been gigging most weekends with a Fender Mustang 3. It is great value for money, the sound is good, the features are useable and it's reliable. Above all the amp is very light. No-one has ever said to me "a valve amp would give you a better sound". I can only conclude that the Fender Mustang 3 is good enough for the gigs I do (pub & club gigs). Having owned a silverface Fender Twin and carted it around for gigging, I can honestly say that the Mustang is a MUCH better option for me :) ... isn't that what counts?
you are right. after having heavy tube amps I'm migrating to digital. I like 2x12 combos. Must have preset saving option. I'm using a line 6 spider IV. Loving it. No more back pain from moving big cabs and heads. No more amp servicing. No more tube changes and accidents. Single trip from the car to studio/venue. All my presets are there. No more messy and noisy pedalboards. I'm sold. The pros of digital amps for gigging players are endless. Also, if the audience is happy with my sound I could'nt care less with tube snobs.
Yeah, weight is a massive thing. These guys were *surprised* the valve amp was heavier. All that metal - a speaker and two transformers. Correct me if I'm wrong, but an output transformer isn't needed for a transistor amp?
I have Fender Mustang 150W (first version) and I also use it for gigs. I have 3 presets I use in songs and thats it. I can imagine it could be smaller as I have volume on 4/10 max. For the price I got everything to be able to play all sounds I need without any pedals and tuner. The new models are way lighter and sounds better. Now I have valve Fender Deluxe 40W. Sound is better but amp is heavier and I need pedals.
Iv been recording and prpducing for 20 years. Modelling is the beat thing to ever happend.
Its like evrething some purist will say that tube are better.. but ivdone several blind test starting with the first pod from line 6 at the beginning of my career and all these tube purist couldnt even work out what was what in a mix. Sometime solo yes.. but by todays technology simply nobody can.
What remains is maybe the feel.. im sure a guy like steeve vai could probably pick up the latency from a modelled amp..or the way ut react vs a tubeamp.. but for us nere mortal.. nah.
Iv been a bad guitar player on the side of my engeneer career.
Iv been giging now for 5 years with a line 6 firehawk 1500 watt amp... with 6speaker its a best with true stereo flat respond. Serve as p.a amp.. etc. And nobody ever came to me and told me to get a tube amp.
Lots of time loudness...cutting trough a mix.. the way you play.. the effe t you use.. there is so much variation from the guitar to the speaker that people that beleives they can hear pick a tube are delusional its when they take a blind test that they realised it. The same goes for these audiophile crap... golden 50 000$ cable...and 200000 amps for vinyl etc its snake oil.
Most vinyl areinferior to a proper cd.
Several study showed that the most importabt factor in a amp was the power of it. Lol no shit.
Well yea, a Fender Twin weighs like 85 lbs and has to be pushed hard as fuck to get even modest breakup. Unless you're playing a 250 person room, why in gods name would you need or want a twin?
Fun video guys. I'd take that Vox in a heartbeat. As an aside i noticed that you now carry Gordon Smith guitars. You need to do a video on them! Hand made in England, loads of options, left or right handed. More people need to know about the longest running British guitar company. They've been under the radar for so long.
Idk how anyone could say anything bad about these guys cuz their just cool dudes playing guitars
We're all sales men though, from your job interview to dating you have to sell at least yourself
They're*
@@DivdHrt - well one can just try being oneself and never mind who buys it. Oldschool. Called authenticity.
But these guys seem pretty authentic to me, even if they are often prejudiced about gear. I don't think it's primarily salesmanship but the Captain is in a sort Label/Brand rut.
Just students of jelly school
Paras Mento smh
You guys are great at jamming together. You should start a 'Jam' series Where you just sit and jam, i would love it if that happens!!!
In the mean time keep up the good content. I thoroughly enjoy every video!
I think you should use the same guitar for an amp testing, or at least switch them around. How can we as viewer heard the difference with 2 completely different guitars....
yep, completely flawed and biased from the beginning to the end. Beats the purpose of the whole video. I am tired of the influencer trend. So dishonest..
Yeah, it's not like the shop isn't going to have two of the same model guitar.
@@e.h.5849 Or maybe than can just do whatever they want cause they are having fun just picking up guitars they think would be nice to play. and its a business. not a third party. stop your bitching
Both are still humbuckers wetard will sound pretty close
@@GuyInnagorillasuit Or they can just use the same exact guitar but plug it into the other amp...
It’s been five years since this video was made and today I took delivery of a Bugera V5 for $200 shipped and I absolutely could not be happier with it. Looks good, feels solid, sounds very good.
The captain has been practicing - great playing man
I agree , some great licks and tones from the Cap here...
THIS is why we watch. Very entertaining. You guys are still making hands down the best, most interesting guitar videos on the RUclips. That little vox IS a pretty kick ass amp.
The crash at 8:35 actually got me
lol
That one got me good😂
Me too. Haha😄
Made me jump too...thought they'd actually broken one or both amps. :D
Of course tube/valve amps are the top dog. But nobody can deny that solid state/digital, or even hybrid amps have come a long way and are just as good as their all-tube counterparts.
as someone coming to this 3 years later and as an owner of a refreshed GTX Mustang - I don't play anywhere but my home at the moment, just a pure hobbyist, and a modelling amp allows me to get a ton of value over an extended period without absolutely needing to invest in a panoply of extra (and wonderful) equipment. If one day I'm gigging I would cutover to any head/amp and a pedalboard in a heartbeat.... but until then, it's great to have a kinda futzy tool that lets me explore a lot for one known cost. It's a known tradeoff, but I think most of us falling into the modelling amp category know what we're trading even if we aren't always proud about it ;)
Should have used the Blackstar ID260TVP as the "digital choice". It's quick and easy to use, very loud, and sounds outstanding in the world of digital amps and can hold its own against a tube amp due to the TVP section. It's a real trouser flapper and still sounds great at volume ( in my humble opinion) 💁🏼
hey! you're here aswell, awesome,(I'm Adan from you blackstar facebook comunity)
I managed to pick up an Ibanez TSA 15H for 150 GBP (converted from South African Rands). Even if you added the speaker cab it was only 212 GBP. The tone is amazing. It made me lament all the years I've spent playing through a solid state Hughes and Kettner. I'm a believer in having an amazing primary tone vs having a million options. I like the fact that it only has 6 knobs and I understand what every single one of them does. I had a multi effects unit back in the day. It was rubbish and uninspiring. I plug straight into this thing and it makes me want to play all day. To me my gear must make me want to play; otherwise its not doing its primary job.
I feel like the older v2 mustang amps were the best. The GTs sound rather flat in comparison, I tried a vox ac30 recently and I've probably spent 4 hours in total playing fender mustang iii v2. Honestly I'd pick the Mustang, the only things I didnt like were the high gain amp sims, but the others were awesome.
just my two cents 😊
Those both sound great! I agree that if you are a beginner, you should get a modeling amp to learn what sound you want, then you save up and buy the right amp for you.
I'm in the camp that wants nothing to do with a valve amp. Yes, they sound great, but tubes are just too much trouble with biasing and replacing them when they get burnt out. I like things to be simple, and programming the new digital amps to get the sound I want takes very little time for me. Thanks for this video, you guys are always so much fun.
114 dB with no hearing prottection on.
Ouch.
Василий Петров that's a 9mm
Tinnitus sucks ass,, believe me. Once you get that ringing in your ears from hearing loss, it never goes away... It's better looking like a "grandpa" than to wanting to blow your brains out from the constant "iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnngggggggggg" in your ears.
I agree, a standard modern chainsaw runs at about 90db, and that's painful without ear defenders.
Pussy
@@sydm1073 as someone that have had tinnitus and hearing damage due to playing guitar at high volumes i second this comment!, i play on a small amp now, sold my old amplifiers.
At least this video really made me want to buy a Vox AC10
Well they were / are good enough for Brian May. ;-)
@@phantomechelon3628 brian may uses ac30... not ac10
@@vexguine And quite a few of them.
@@johnbishop5316 he uses 6 in 2 rows of 3 and a third row just for back ups.
I bought a gt40 from Andertons to throw on my desk purely for clean tones to practice at low volume. Does the job perfectly. I have three valve amps and an analogue amp so I'm pretty familiar with all types. I'd always prefer any of the valve amps over the analogue or digital amps. I also owned the previous version of the mustang, I found it no better than the gt40. Can't say I've tried the gt200 though, which seems to be the one that gets slated the most.
Valve amps ARE analogue.
Try the blackstar id15 tvp I've played thru alot of tube amps and it comes extremely close I can't tell the difference in a way it does it better in some respects
LoL.... Yeah, I was like, "Whuuuhh?"
There are solid state analogue amps, solid state does not mean digital, just that it uses transistors instead of tubes
Did it smell any time?
"Let me see how loud this goes and still sounds nice" haha the answer is with it off. That vox sounded awesome though!
That Vox, especially at the beginning during the little jam, was MAGICAL!
The problem is something that was only sort of addressed... Yes, the VOX sounded better, but to get the versatility out of it, you now have to build up that pedal collection unless you're happy with it's basic sounds (which were terrific for what it is btw) and not everyone can afford to do that. If you need the set up to do more, the better option seems to be the digital, which fortunately has a large array of choices in manufacturer, options, quality etc. I just can't figure out why the community seems so divided into it has to be THIS or THAT. Budget concerns aside, I don't understand why it can't be both. They each have their place and purpose, and if people could stop drinking the Hatorade by the gallon maybe they would see that. Good video, thanks for the great content guys.
Barak Graves yes! the thing is "what is it going to be used for?" the tube amp is great at one, maybe two sounds great if you're gigging and only need one or two sounds, not great for fooling around at home.
"Good from afar, far from good". 😂
Reminds me of the term 'Low-resolution fox' - A lady who looks smoking hot at a distance but turns out to be all pixelated up close.
I would like to see the both of you sort out your deserted island scenario rig. Pick a budget (like 1500 pounds, 2500 pounds, whatever) and that has to include everything (guitar, amp, pedals, etc.) I feel from my perceptive, I do not have a lot of money to throw around hoarding a ton of gear. Do you go with a nice guitar or a couple cheap ones, nice amp with a couple pedals, or a kemper or helix??? I'd be interested to see what path the two of you choose.
Charles Edwards
Squier Vintage Modified Jazzmaster in Sonic Blue.
Vox AC10.
Tone City Golden Plexi, Dunlop Cry Baby Wah, Stone Deaf Fig Fumb Fuzz, Digitech Whammy, Boss Phase 90, Ditto Looper, Boss Digital Delay
SVMJM: 540 CAD
VOX AC10: 600 CAD
Ditto Looper: 140 CAD
Golden Plexi: 85 CAD
Boss Digital Delay: 180
Fig Fumb: 260 CAD
Digitech Whammy: 290 CAD
Cry Baby: 112
+200 CAD for customized killswitch
+30 CAD for a lead
+ 4 CAD for some Dunlop Big Stubby picks
+7 CAD for a strap
GRAND TOTAL: 2448 CAD or 1479 Quid.
I went the budget home studio route. If you don't play gigs - I don't -, a home studio makes sense and is a lot of fun. Plus, everything is modular and upgradeable.
stuck on a deserted island with electric rig but no electricity ...haha its all out acoustics
I'm revisiting this Andertons video. I certainly miss Rob in them. There is a chemistry between those two because they share a love for music and equipment. This is when Andertons videos were at their peak. Everyone else that has set opposite of the Captain since Rob left just doesn't have the spunk that Rob had. I know Rob has moved on to Malta to another stage of his life, but golly it would be nice to reunite these 2 occasionally for a video or two. I still love the new Andertons videos but it just isn't quite the same.
Can I just say, Rob is looking really really good here compared to older videos? Not to say he wasn't always beautiful♥️
Totally team valve here. That Mustang sounded like mush in every setting.
17:56 Rob instinctively reaches for the tuning pegs as if he's playing a Chapman guitar. Good to know he plays his own guitars!
caljohn88 well yeah, kind of his company???
I think the Katana would have been a better choice. The Jaguar line has always been near the bottom of the list when it comes to their digital amps. From what I hear, the new Boss amps are supposed to be quite good, so perhaps it might be a better comparison when it comes to cranking up the volume.
D NC the Katanas are good, however the speakers are really 'volume dependant', and by that I mean that as the master volume increases,you get way more treble. So I'd go KTN-HD into some Zilla greatness and you're got a rig for £829 👌🏼
I tried a Katana in a store and strange this happened, actually distorted sounds were better than the clean channel, opposite of valve and solid state comparison
I'm a beginner. I bought my first guitar 21years ago. I've owned several amps. Six months ago I bought a Yamaha THR10c in hopes of the perfect bedroom amp. Loved it, but wanted a tube/valve amp. Bought a Vox AC10c1 and found it great at higher volumes, but lacking down low.
I don't need anything that loud. Took it back in exchange for a Katana 50, thinking that maybe a modern SS amp might be as good. The Katana felt like a cheap, gimmicky toy, however loud. Very loud, but sounded like it was in a cardboard box. Took the Katana back and bought a Fender Bassbreaker 007. WOW 😳. I was amazed at the sound. 'Warmth' definitely describes it. Almost like it,makes your body fuzzy when you play a chord. I like it much better than the Vox and I will play this amp forever. Also, it is louder than anyone would require at home/bedroom, etc. LOVE IT.
Cap't Anderton, IMHO you have perfectly summed up the pros and cons of tube vs. digital amps. That there isn't a clear 'best choice' for everyone is no reason to apologize. This video is exactly what to watch for folks needing guidance on what kind of amp to buy.
P.S. These videos are uniformly excellent. Great job done by all, on both ends of the camera and in editing. Thank you!
Do cheap haircut vs expensive haircut
Lynn Collett not very metal of him
They did that one
How about an expensive haircut on a bald head and cheap one on a full head of hair?
@Agent 88 I dont I just go to a barber shop where I live or local or my dad could cut it
Cheap suit on a professional vs expensive suit on a hobo
Love my little Fender Mustang GT 40 watt amp.. As a home practice amp it's perfect. Sound quality is good, gets super loud and has tons of amp choices (which I can tweak on the fly with my phone). Not to mention it moonlights as great little Bluetooth home stereo and was super affordable.
Agree as long as you stick with clean tones. The distortion sounds are typical fizzy digital noise. I love the Bluetooth for streaming backing tracks while you play. Great for when you have to practice and don't dare disturb the wife. Plug in the headphones, stream the backing to the amp and live in bliss :))
I’ve been considering the mustang gt100 for my first amp should I go for it?
To make the Mustang sound the best and most like a tube amp turn the SAG all the way to the left and the BIAS all the way to the right
I instantly loved the Vox over the Mustang. It’s just an instantly inspiring tone
Dearly love these guys. I plan to investigate cost,and process to order and ship needed gear to the U.S. (other than my "Anderton's" t-shirt. These guys are a wealth of real knowledge,and good honest advise.
damn havent watched yall in a few months and i have to say damn cap your playing is like exponentially grown
It’s like coming into the lodge on a cold snowy winter night and sitting on a leather couch in front of a crackling fire to warm up or finding a 55” TV with a fire reproduction on.
Chapman gets older. Captain gets younger.
Think he'd rather be embracing the roots of his hair. They seem to be screaming "let my people go" They've already spent 40 years living in the desolate wasteland of his scalp. Their long journey will be over soon.
keep in mind they said they were going to read the mean posts at some point.
Brutal... I love it
For someone like me who currently knows nothing about the current amp market this was VERY informative Lee. Thanks for doing it!
I have played some valve amps that sounded amazing.I have also played solid state and digital amps that sounded great as well.It really comes down to what is gonna get you playing.No matter how great your rig sounds if you can't play you can't play.A great guitatist can make a cheap amp sound awesome.I saw an interview where Phil Collin of Def Leppard said that Hysteria was recorded on Rockmans.That was a killer sound.Play what feels right to you.We all have our personal tastes.That is what makes us different as people and musicians.
Jeez dude. You typed in three websites with that grammar in that whole thing.
This confirms my opinion that a speaker is the most important link in the chain. The 10 inch speaker in the Vox IMO was the bottleneck that made it sound relatively tinny compared to the Fender's 2x12. And Fenders stock cheap speakers tend to be ok compared to line6 and crate etc. I pref the SS Fender in this which surprised me.
Edit: Every comment is about what they should have used! Haha. How about just talk about what's actually in the video?
CIRCLE OF TONE Your friend for guitar tone : You are so right. I bought a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 3 and it was only when I plugged it into my Marshall 1960A cab that it really showed what it sounded like. Beautiful! I run the other half of the cab with a Marshall Class 5. With a chorus pedal, it sounds huge.
Haha, aren't the comments like that on every video? What would've been better or what they should do next (the second thing they even asked for here...).
Btw... you really preferred the Fender?! Did you not look who was playing and had your speakers reversed?
I mean, the little Vox sounds absolutely solid and even close to perfect while the other one wasn't convincing to me at all, I'd say way too expensive for that kind of sound (and the fact that you apparently can't even play it loud without frying something, Shane from 'Intheblues' said he returned his because of that and I also read it in a few comments, so it can't be just this one).
I was looking for something that I could transport easily and had tubes. The Marshall JCM 900 and 2000 that I used to have with matching 1960 A & B cabs sounded fantastic, but I never gigged with the whole rig. The 2x12 Fender gives me the option to toss it in my car and play pretty much anywhere.
DerEchteBold so you say Shane owned one? Looks like I was in good company for liking the tone eh? Shane owning the Fender speaks volumes and backs my opinion, not negates it.
CIRCLE OF TONE
Shane used a Mustang III V.2 for years in live situations and he did that 'Mustang Monday' thing on his channel where he presented custom patches (does it again now it seems, with an old Mustang but he says you can use the patches with the GT's also) now he thought the new GT- series would be even better so he got a GT-200 but he was extremely disappointed by it's sound (and smell), so he quickly returned it.
That's the story as far as I understood, came across it by coincidence, I don't follow his videos.
6 dB louder, so 4x the energy, but not even double the perceived volume. (3.01 db more = double energy , 10dB more = double perceived volume and 9.85x the energy)
So, you may expect the same volume from this 200W digital amp as from a classic 50W valve amp, but don't expect 50 or 200 Watts to be 5 or 20 times as loud, regardless of valve or not
Mr. Caedo perceived volume depends on one's ears. Double volume usually means +6-10dB
ion 53 double volume is 3db
@@OGPokey151is correct. 3dB power ratio is twice as loud, 10db is 10 times as loud.
@Lynn Collett - 10dB is easy to demonstrate - when the TV commercials are running, they are about 10dB louder than the program thanks to heavy use of volume compression.
@KC get out your sound pressure level meter sometime and measure it yourself. When the TV commercials are running, the average sound level rises by approximately 10 dB because the commercials are using high levels of compression - they amplify the sound and clip the peaks so the peak level doesn't increase.
Is loudness as important as it used to be? It seems to me most gigs the amps are miced and run through the PA. An over driven small amp can sound awesome and balanced volume-wise with the band.
Good luck with a single 12 cutting through the mix of drums and bass amps if it isnt mic'd.. and although you are usually mic'd every once in awhile guitars aren't and you are told to turn up.. I've played in all kinds of venues.. one time the guitars overloaded the sound system because one of the bridges amps on the system blew.. so we had to turn up the amps and only mic vocals.. it's a wild life gigging to rely on a small amp
Indeed love when you see guys running around with just a helix or like and have a terrible shock to find the house pa is non existent lol .
@@MichaelZuriel I use a 90s teal stripe 80 watt peavey bandit 1x12 and it sounds damn near like a Marshall and cuts through beautifully and easily with me John bonham/ Lars ulrich style drummer with the largest sticks and largest tama drum kit you can get
Digital amps in my opinion are extremely underated. My dad uses a Marshall Code 50, Took it to a show where hjis band opened for stryper and their tech was blown away. Hes got his settings so dialed in, All he had to do was mic it tothe PA and go
That's my OCD done in, mixed nomenclature. 12AX7 USA designation, EL84 UK designation. So, 12AX7 and 6BQ5 or ECC83 and EL84. Incidentally the original Mullard coding is: E - 6.3V heater, C - triode, L - output pentode or tetrode; to name but a few.
Now, decibels (one tenth of a Bel), 3dB is x2 or half, 6dB is x4 or quarter. Our hearing is logarithmic so to perceive sound twice as loud is a 10dB increase. Try it without looking at your sound meter, at a sensible reference level because 114dBA (A is relative to the perception of noise by the ear and weighted for frequency) is seriously dangerous. Wind the volume until you think it's twice as loud and look at the meter.
Love the videos, keep at it !!
Cap'n and Chappers! You missed the opportunity to do Headrush (or Helix) vs. equivalent-cash-spent on a tube head + pedals (within the total budget of the Headrush).
Maybe next time?
This needs to happen.
How could anyone be derogatory about Chappers & The Captain? Outrageous, shows a lack of breeding!
I bought a Marshall CODE 50 from your fantastic emporium of musical instrumentation and I am very impressed with it (I previously had a TSL 122 (also from your store) the only drawback is it's a bit loud to play at home so i have had to bust out the headphones most of the time.
totally agree with the instant access to regular amps, there was a bit of a learning curve with the code with the phone app etc but once you get past that its incredible and you do get so many choices (some might say too many)
connor flynn the app actually works for you? This whole time, I've been lied to!
yeah it was a bit fiddly to get it working but after a swift bit of googling i got there in the end (Marshall really need to make the instructions clearer or simplify it)
I've got a CODE25. It's a nice amp, but I could never even get the Bluetooth connection to work on it. It just wouldn't come up on any of my devices when I turned it on 😟.
there was a bit of trickery pairing them, you have to go to your phones settings and authorise the app and then pair them in a specific order, ill try and find the link i used for you...
just bought an amp evh lunchbox from you and the service was awesome! total professional and such a cool shop. very friendly
I know nothing and just started playing like 6 months ago and I'm blown away by how much better the Vox sounded.
6:30 well played sir, well played
That blue Petrucci in the background mmmmmm!!!
Oh God I love these videos...
I love these videos. As someone that manufactures audio products based around valves (tubes), this video just reinforces what we tell our customers which is that valves and transformers are the real deal and everything else is just a photocopy of reality. When you hit an output transformer hard, the transformer rings like a bell and does so at frequencies that modern opamps dont even see. Reality bests digital every time.
My conclusion has long been that its just personal preference. I'm glad you guys mentioned the plug n play vs having to fiddle around and learn the modeling amp before getting the sounds you want. Personally, I like the loads of options and the fact that I have MANY different very nice sounds that I can get with my vip3, but I can definitely appreciate that some people just don't want to have to spend the time to learn how to get what they want out of a modeling amp... no matter how versatile.My biggest complaint about modeling amps is actually just leveling the volume across different presets. Other than that, literally over the course of years for my last modeling amp, ANY time I had the itch for a different amp, all I had to do was fiddle around with my amp and find a new sound that I liked. It really is like have a room full of very nice amps, tube or otherwise, all in one relatively inexpensive box.
The JCM800 2203 and 2204 do not have solid-state elements in the preamp section. The JCM800 2210 and 2205, on the other hand, do.
8bigtubes well, if you consider that a solid state circuit is mainly transistor based, then you have to consider that the transistors in valve amps are "solid state", the meaning of a valve amp is that it's including valves in some part of his circuit, so some parts are "solid state", because I think there is no electronic circuit without transistors
Tomer Avira, could you expand on your last sentence? There are lots of valve amps that have no transistors anywhere in their circuits. They might have other semiconductor devices, like diodes, but no transistors.
Tomer, a solid state amp is entirely dependent on transistors. The transistor is the signal amplifying component. A valve amplifier is dependent on the valves because the valve is the amplifying component. Valve amplification is the older technology predating the invention of the transistor. Anything using both valves and transistors is a hybrid circuit
Valve amp, in general, means the entire SIGNAL PATH has no semiconductors (diodes, transistors). The power supply of the amp, on the other hand, usualy has diodes for transforming AC into DC, valves need DC power, but those diodes do not get into the signal path. So, the entire tone is free of "solid-state" stuff.
Exactly. That's why the 2210 and 2205 were not as sought after as their predecessors the 2203 and the 2204. The 2210 and 2205 used diode clipping to produce the extra gain. The 2203 and 2204, however, were all tube gain stages. No diode clipping whatsoever.
Where can I buy tickets for your video recording session? I can imagine myself just standing near by and enjoy you guys talk about amps and guitars :-)
Once I'm thinking about it, you could make a live show and name it "TOP GAIN". I bet you'd have many viewers :-)
And a star on a reasonably priced guitar each week... Perfect.
TheMrFlitz and of course: how fast can the new Chapman Cap10 play the test track? Of course played by a professional Guitar Racer. Some say, he never cuts his nails and that he can play every lick with his tongue. All we know is: he's called the 'Pick'.
Lol.Great.Or one of 'picks' foreign cousins depending where the guitar was build?.Their pretty fast too.And wich could be moded for campfire etc. Your brillant.
second hand hot rod deluxe and blues junior £300-350, I got my hot rod for £350 and it was only 8 months old, in mint condition 👍 if you're looking for an amp go second hand. you should do some sort of second hand challenge
and in the blues said the same thing about the smell in the GT
They're hyping Anderton's, which sells NEW amps... any used amp challenge would have to emphasize the downs of buying used.
The editor of these videos has way too much fun
Loving the captains playing on this video! Lovely vibrato!
The AC10 is a great sounding amplifier imo.
excellent idea for a video guys! I had this same dilemma recently and went valve.
Having the same dilemma currently and pretty sure I'm going valve as well. Although the Katana is very interesting. What they should have done was put the AC-10 through a 2X12 and compare. Think the mustang would have been even more in the shit.
My dilemma was a little more complicated, I eventually ordered the Blacksar HT1 head and 112 cab (bronco edition) from Andertons due to the great returns policy just in case it wasn't the right thing. My dilemma was I wanted to record and the features of digital were quite attractive such as direct recording, lots of sounds and they sound good at low volume (I cant crank where I am) so I wanted to see if this emulated out was all it was cracked up to be. In the end I decided that the emulated out of the Blackstar KICKS ASS and kept it. As for digital I still think for what I'm doing it can be more flexible so for effects and sounds I have guitar rig but when I want that authentic valve response the Blackstar is amazing! PS, to rob and the captain I think this video was more informative then you think!
There are so many considerations. Recording or not, can crank it or not. My thing is I do record my own stuff just for me. Not in a band and I'm far more interested in audio fidelity than volume. I agree about the video. All of these different comparisons give those of us watching more to help inform our choices. Just watched the VOX AV series video and I have to say they are quite impressive at least on the video. In a perfect world I'd have Bea's dual Kraken rig at home volume levels, but yeah...
There's almost too much on the market and can be daunting for newcomers to the industry. Option paralysis can make choosing gear a nightmare and can also make you second guess choices you've already made. So much marketing and endorsements from top players, its nice to see two guys who are happy to demo and call out a great product whether they gain from it or not. Yes they can be biased but who isn't when it comes to tone and gear? at least these guys give the people a place to start! also the victory amps are gorgeous and I especially love the cabs. btw have you seen robs video on how to sound like yourself? I recommend it for the option paralysis thing.
I saw it in the video list but haven't watched it yet. Totally agree with your sentiments. I can't say enough good about Rob, Lee, Bea and all the Anderton's crowd. Hours of entertainment and they keep pushing me to just enjoy music.
Rory! you bloody bugger! you made me pause! 😁
Good for you guys standing your ground! Let me just start by saying that I enjoy and appreciate you guys and your videos. I’ve seen some of the derogatory and negativity you are referring to and it is uncalled for. If for any reason any of you folks at Andertons reads this, know that the amount of people who enjoy your videos goes WAY beyond the amount of likes and positive feedback that RUclips shows. It seems like in all things in life there is always a small minority of folks who are negative; they are toxic and if you feed into those types of people they will ruin it for you and everyone else. That said, please don’t give any time or pay any mind to those negative people and keep posting great videos as you have been. Cheers from the USA gentlemen!!
I've been watching youtube videos since 1903, and this is my very first comment (i think). You two make the best review videos of anything. I watch car reviews, movie reviews, taco reviews, pajama reviews, dirt reviews, and on and on. and nobody does it like you two. top notch. I usually don't even care what you're reviewing. This one for example, I already know what my preference is (valves), and i don't need anybody to reinforce it, yet I sat here and watched it all the way through.
why talk shit on Facebook when you could do it here?!
analog pedal vs digital multifx unit
Panos3500 oooohhh. I like this idea..
Panos3500 great idea, mate!!
Well delays are not analog for example.
What's the carbon copy then?
If you're being pedantic, basically 90% of pedals are not entirely analog.
That said, I would like to see a comparison between a selection of oft-used "single serving" pedals and the same kind of effect on a multiFX pedal.
but how loud can you get a clean tone on them??????
(Five years after, skipping 2.9k comments)
The real question seems to me [matter of perception] whether you want an amplifier (here: active loudspeaker) that just amplifies its input signal as correctly as possible (a PA loudspeaker) or one that amplifies the input provided by an electric guitar in a way that satisfies the guitar player the fullest. In the latter case, the amp should be considered a part of the effects chain [matter of opinion].
In this video, the question seems [matter of perception] whether valves positively contribute to the effects chain. Both Rob and Lee seem to have some rock sound in mind. Yes, for that sound, valves seem to do the trick.
Me (66), I hadn't grasped that difference until very recently. I had replaced my 10W guitar amps (for home use, obviously) with 320W PA-speakers, and I was glad to hear my bass guitar sound really low. Then, as it dawned on me (in which a Brian May Red Special was instrumental), I ordered a dedicated guitar amp (Marshall Code 50, after obviously considering a Vox) and ("I don't know what I may have been missing") a dedicated bass amp (Boss Katana-210 Bass). I'll see (I mean: hear)... :-)
I also love that your videos don’t have ads in the middle of them. I’m sure you could and make more money but you don’t!
The tube amp wins. Next....
I have a gt100 and a vox ac30 I really love my GT100 and when I'm at home noodling or jamming with friends i find myself only using the mustang GT100. It has so many presets and built in effects that when you are used to the features I just plug and go through my 200 presets and dont even use pedals. Agreed for sound quality the Vox does have that good tube sound and that's why I use it for gigs.
The Katana wouldve murdered both of them...
Good dodge lads 😉
Bingo !!
The Katana was and is a game changer in the world of guitar amplifiers both solid state and tube.
@Landslide
The point of the video has ZERO to do with what "Guitar Heroes" play.
It was specifically about practice amps or bedroom amps. Not only that but it's based within a budget price range.
So the Katana is compatible and comparable in both the subject matter and the point of the video,..
Not a Marshall 100w DSL Half stack.
@Landslide
Again, what your talking about has nothing to do with the purpose of this video.
But while you insist on a subjective comparison of a general tube amp vs a Katana 50..
Take a moment and just listen to this video in it's entirety...Its not very long and worth listening to.
ruclips.net/video/j4SueVfXWMI/видео.html
@Landslide you're wrong I'm a guitar hero worshipped by all and I play katana....obviously.
@Landslide
The Orange Crush is a solid state amp. And "guitar heroes" often practice with solid state amps.
But I'd be willing to bet that you couldn't tell a tube amp from a solid state amp in a blind listening test.You think you could, but you probably couldn't. And even if you managed to tell the difference, you'd be amazed at how small the difference is between them.
But it's almost beside the point. If you're not a making a living playing music--and sadly few persons are these days--why the fuck would you spend one or two thousand dollars on a big, heavy, fragile tube amp head? And you're going to have to pay to keep that thing running, as well as make sure nobody walks off with it when you have your back turned.
you should do a video about valve amps to use when you live in a flat without annoying everyone in the house :)
Lucas Kress The Bugera V5 is a great small valve amp. 5 watts and takes pedals really well. Though you definitely will need the pedals, as its gain is not great on its own. (Overdrive pedal in front makes it really nice though).
Lucas Kress Sooooo, a Blackstar HT-1 or some other micro amps?
Sound proofing your room works WONDERS. I couldn't even close to crank my 5 watt before I sound proofed my apt, but now I can get a 15 watt to open up a lil bit. I had to do a couple of stupid ass tests where I literally just had a buddy stand outside while I got louder and louder until he heard.
Don't try to find the Goldilocks amp, just soundproof your room
I used digital amp before, ended up damaging it due to having to play it very very low. Now i'm using a Blackstar HT-1R, its AMAZING.
I have a Hughes & Kettner Tubemeister 18 head that is designed for the bedroom user. It has a built in attenuator (18W, 5W, 1W, or 0W to the speakers) and a built-in DI with cab ermulation. Also has FX loop and 3 channels of gain, and an optional foot switch. I use it with a Mesa 2x12 closed back cab loaded with Vintage 30s. The TM-18 is super versatile, and I can use it with headphones in the dead of night without waking everyone. I also have an old Line 6 Amplifi FX100 multi effects pedal that I have gradually learned how to get the most out of, it's actually pretty good stand-alone for bedroom headphone use too. I would not recommend the FX100 for gigging, though. There are many reviews online that go into detail on why.
I appreciate the car reference, because I’m exactly like that, give me an older car (and valves) any day over more modern stuff
I had the Fender Mustang GT 100 (paid 399.99) and sold it three days ago (289.99) and bought the Orange Rocker 32... I feel good about the upgrade.. Always enjoy the videos guys...
Where is the chappers and the captain awards ?
Do a Gibson vs Tokai vs Hagstrom would be very interesting :)
Michał Szymański I think they don't stock tokai and that other brand....
Tomer Avira unlucky, that would be epic if they had. I had a chance to play on hagstrom and tokai and Gibson and those three brands would be perfect to do a blindfold challenge.
You'll never see Andertons compare to Japanese gear. They don't sell "unofficial" stuff, and more importantly, this would open their audiences' mind to the 2nd hand market too much.
CNCTEMATIC yeah true, gibson vs Hagstrom would be perfect than.
Just the word "Tokai" makes me happy.
See that st Vincent guitar on the wall? PLEASE take it down and do a demo on it.
Lee's gotten so much better since the old videos man! He's sounding sick!
I agree with Lee on the comment about digital modeling amps sounding great until you hear it side by side with a Valve amp. The Boss Katana sounded exactly like a Valve amp to me until I played side by side with my Jet City 20 watt combo. I bought the Jet City used for $150 too. The 20 watt 1×12 is every bit as loud as the 100 watt digital 1×12. The biggest difference is that I paid twice as much for the Boss Katana. The only thing that I like about the Katana is that it has plenty of usable effects built in. If I could do it again I wouldn't have bought the Katana. I didnt realize how inexpensive a used Valve amp is or realize that 20 Valve watts was enough for me to play with a hard hitting drummer.
Just as loud is one thing, sound as good is another.
I couldn't stop staring at Rob's legs.
Da, asa-i, ii frumos!
Some hairy hocks!
Really are you gay or something
Great videos l like this channel F the haters. Can you do acoustic amp challenge? I just a very fine Taylor😎 and like to hear some amp.
Cheapest Light bulb vs most expensive Light bulb.
I don't think that would be legal, light bulbs are an endangered species in Europe!
#SaveTheBulbs
Tonebulps?
It might be expensive, but nothing beats a room lit with a stack or four of 6550's
Cheapest pencil vs most expensive sandwich
The Johnson Millennium & Marquis modeling amps are actually quite good, weren't cheap, but is no longer in business....you can get a decent used deal, but they soar and fall in price, so keep ur eye open, if its of interest.
Who would write derogatory comments about you guys?!....you're the reason that I watch RUclips at all...I found it not only amusing but i learn alot about guitars too...
I will be smelling all amps on the floor of Andertons, to ensure I dont get a dud.
How about about hybrid vs full valve?
It's no surprise that full digital amps are not better than full valve, but there are some amazing hybrid amps out there that sound amazingly.
The peach slapper. I like hybrid amps better than full tube amps.
Most of those "hybrid amps" use one tube with the plate running at 9-10 volts. Mostly a gimmick and a marketing scheme that goes like "Wow look, it has a tube inside!". It's called "starved plate" which can sometimes give a cool sound, but isn't anything like a real cranked valve amp break up.
I jam at my buddies house who has a Marshall VS100 on a 4x12. It's a "Valve State." It's just kinda mehhh. Better than an SS, but nothing on full on valve tone.
Thats why I take my Orange TT 1x12 Combo over there 😁 1 O'clock gain and tone, at 3/4 volume...bliss.
love the joke at 6:30
Love the English practice of saying 'dear' for 'expensive'... Great vid, guys!
I wanted to add, I wish you both would play both amps when you do amp comparisons b/c you both play at different levels and you use different guitars. Having a same guitar/same player testing both makes it easier to hear the difference. Keep it up.