I disagree with you, I think Daredevil is the best Marvel Netflix show, hell out of all of them Defenders mostly felt like a Daredevil season 2.5 out of anything
JJ is better in characters, but DD is better in fight. JJ is more like a Thriller, DD is more like superhero tv show. DD is as good as JJ, but in different way,
@@drunktoast3289 lol. I guess we all coming back after Spiderman. Crazy how connected Marvel became. Can’t wait to see how they redeem the Inhumans in a decade
People just say Jessica Jones is as good as Daredevil because they love Krysten Ritter. I love her too and have ever since I saw her in Breaking Bad but the time and effort put into Daredevil shows more than it does in almost any other Netflix show.
Her and David Tennant as Kilgrave are pretty much the selling point of the show and the only thing that makes it good. Other than that Jessica Jones as a show is a frustrating mess.
Oh right. I was thinking of the 70s outfit they teased him in during the flashback. I mostly remember him wearing a black tee shirt and leading the "illegal" Avengers team. Ever read his Max title?
I agree about Iron Fist. The first episode was trash. The way he came back just fully expecting to re-integrate into regular life with tattered clothes and *no shoes* felt very disingenuous. The way they started us out as viewers just as confused as the people he was encountering made me want to turn it off. After episode 1, it got much better though.
My name is Danny rand and im the iron fist protector of kun lun My name is Tchalla I am the black panther and protector of Wakanda and I took over as king for my father I am Steve rogers
Killed a dragon off screen. He must be one of those brash and undisciplined warrior monks you don't hear about. There's alot of whining, and temper tantrums, and virtually no abstract thinking from Danny, which is all okay if the action scenes are good enough, after all they have to be for a show about a hero who's power is kung fu magic... But no, there are a couple stand out fights, but the majority of the action sequences were sloppy and uninspired.
Losing you're parents to a plane crash, spending most of you're childhood fighting people and getting beaten with sticks, fighting a damn Dragon, being a homeless person that no one listens to and spending alot of time at a Dojo. Can't get more privileged than that
And from what we saw from season 2 trailers: Getting beat up very badly to earn the title of the Iron fist. I despise how many people call him priviledged and stuff like that. He is the most strong willed defender.
my main problem is how they kinda make him underpowered. like in Defenders, he should be able to beat the entire team in a fight. but my boy daredevil’s like “I did boxing when I was a kid, HIYA!” so in short. Danny needs to go back for training
I love Jessica Jones and Daredevil equally. They're very different concepts and very different shows. Jessica Jones could legitametly be its own stand alone detective series that's completely unrelated to the defenders and i wouldn't mind. It has a very mysterious and mature vibe. Daredevil is more action packed and blood crazy. Not to mention the characters are to die for. Foggy? Wholesome as hell. Stick? Very entertaining. I feel like in order to like one show over the other is to like one concept over the other, and that is crazy martial arts and blood Vs eerie detective drama.
So Iron Fist spent his childhood being beaten with sticks by Shaolin monks, being beaten up by Kung fu dudes and he fought a dragon and he never had to work for anything? It seems that he was the only defender who actually worked for his powers.
And sorry about the blanket statement "never worked hard for anything in his life." More a reference to being handed billions of dollars. BUT, Davos was jealous of Danny in part because Danny didn't seem to want the honor. He was given something Davos also worked hard for, and at the first opportunity he abandoned the people he swore to protect.
The show would have been better if it had focused more on his training to become Iron Fist than it did on the "will they/won't they believe he's really Danny" plot. That said, the show itself isn't that bad.
Or at least gave us Arrow style flashbacks. I don't hate the show, I just think it was only made because they needed to do it before the Defenders came out, and it was rushed.
@@mohanalakshmi1888 Well I mean, i just finished Jessica Jones today right after I finished daredevil and the defenders, And I would say that Jessica is just about as cool as Matt. But, uh, I’m a very huge fan of daredevil so I guess I have to agree with you.
I am glad I didn't listen to the reviews of Iron Fist that all suggested it was bad. It was good, sure not as good as some of the others but still a decent show.
Yeah, I loved Iron Fist. He's my favorite comic book character ever and even though this was a little bit of a let down, I really enjoyed this version of him. Everyone always says the fight scenes are awful (and yes, I enjoy Daredevil's more) but they felt powerful like an actual warrior monk would use those fighting styles. Daredevil's was more brutal and hardcore but it wasn't as well rounded. Here's my ranking of the shows. 1- Iron Fist 2- Jessica Jones (Pretty much tied with Iron Fist) 3- Daredevil S.1 4- Luke Cage (First half is tied with Daredevil) 5- Daredevil S.2 I'm pretty sure Defenders will be my favorite.
This was fantastic. There was so much time between each show that by the time defenders came round I had totally forgotten some of the most important information from season 2 of daredevil
I just rewatched all the shows leading up to Defenders. So, I can honestly say I enjoyed the second half of Luke Cage & Iron Fist far more the second time around. I guess since I knew what to expect this time.
Justin I agree that According to the Marvel Netflix shows they are the weakest. But I'm seeing a lot of people call them bad/trash, which just isn't true. Their quality is still higher than most (if not all) the DC shows which are all considered hits on the CW.
Wish I could agree. But I took a while watching the first part of Iron Fist which I totally was waiting for because it was just boring to me. I know I am comparing it to great material earlier but thats how it goes. If DD was not good I would not have sat through all of other shows. Luke Cage was so great early on with the first story ark with Cotton Mouth. After he leaves it went down hill. Why do I care about Cage's half brother? Cuz he is crazy? What is there really to like about Iron Fist? Cuz he is a giant child who wants to run a corporation into the ground and he is the most gullible super hero ever? Me and my girlfriend just would cringe over how anyone could get this guy purchase snow living in Antarctica. Wing was the BEST part of the show until she started following Rand's lead.
Alex Luke Cage's half brother was important to the story, because he was the one that set Luke's whole story in motion. It was because of him that Luke was sent to Prison (where he got his powers). & It was because of their dad's treatment of Stryker that he hated Luke. As for Iron Fist, & In context with the show. It made sense for Danny to be conflicted & child like. He didn't grow up like Davos for the first 10 to 12 years of his life. He was a Billionaires child... Which means he had access to basically anything he wanted. A plane crash later. He now has dead parents & nothing of his own. Also, he never properly grieved his parents like any child Danny's age would. The monks then teach him to lock all his emotions away. Kun-Lun being isolated from the rest of the World didn't give him any room to grow. Basically, Danny is still a child emotionally & having to learn to grow up once he returns to NY... It actually leaves room for quite a bit of growth for the character. By the end of season 2 he could be the Iron Fist everyone expected him to be. Season 1 was necessary in getting him there. And, I think they did a good job getting that point across.
@Peculiar Mann. I do not disagree that the character is important to Luke Cage I will just say the story did a piss poor job of making me care about him. I cared about Cotton Mouth and his murderous cousin/politician. You can make vengeance a story motivational point and misdirected anger but gotta show some empathy for the character who hates to at least get people to understand where he is coming from. Just cuz he hates Cage does not give reason to why he wants to rule over everyone with a fist or kill everyone. Iron Fist, we will have to Agree to disagree here. Rand's childlike wonder would be tolerable if he was this big hearted guy who went around helping others and except for helping lower the price of the new drug he didn't do anything to help others in any direct way. Being out of touch is one thing, being completely oblivious when you are the CHOSEN WARRIOR MONK is quite another. You can't expect that you will get multiple seasons to tell what should be ONE season story ark. I know he has emotions to work through but can it be done in a manner that can at least illustrate a well trained warrior monk coming to grips with his past and not a giant child who trusts EVERYONE. Wing was awesome in the show but she went overnight from not wanting anything to do with Rand to being all about him and betraying her master for him. At the end of the day I leaned more towards other ppl in the sense that I did not really like his character. Above all else ppl gotta at least like ya to root for ya and sit through 13 episodes. His show took the longest time for me to finish and was the only one I watched the day it was released. Is it a horrible show no. Could have been better with a more flawed character not just a childish one. Maybe to see your points more I will rewatch the series but I am not crossing my fingers.
15 years. K'un Lun appears every FIFTEEN years, not ten. And Danny "never worked hard for anything in his life?" Did you even watch the fucking show? He beat a dragon to get the iron fist. In fact, he's the only one who earned his powers and not through some happy accident. Matt didn't earn his powers. He trained to use it as a strength AFTER the accident blinded him and gave him powers. It was, for intents and purposes, an ACCIDENT. oh and btw forgot the mention Davos.
-_- Getting their powers was the accident. They all went through some accident to get their powers except for Danny Rand. Yeah, crashing in the mountains wasn't planned but he willingly beat a dragon to get his powers. Something he trained for.
Megajon That radioactive truck Matt was hit with wasn't planned either. I agree with you on Jessica and Luke, but not with Daredevil. The guy legit has a disability and trained hard to overcome it, and even use it to his advantage.
I personally like all the series, including Iron Fist. I always wondered why no one talked about Claire sleeping every guy she meets, but Luke Cage is the one she must like the most since she stole his line "Sweet Christmas".
I've been rewatching all of Daredevil but I knew I'd have to also watch the Defenders. So I've been rewatching all the other shows as well except I didn't want to have to watch iron fist, so that's why I'm watching this.
Ethan Bach absolutely not. I loved all the Netflix shows. Most people liked iron fist. It's the vocal 1% That don't and have to make sure everyone knows they don't like it
Yeah idk, presumably that chance happened between the end of DD S2 and the start of the defenders, given that the whole of Luke Cage and Iron Fist season 1 had to happen in that interval.
+Umar Butt Better than the crappy prequels, not as good as the first trilogy. I kind of found the characters a little flat as is JJ Abrams signature, but it's a good popcorn movie. Didn't see Rogue One though.
rogue one was incredible...i went in with low expectations after the force awakens was just okay but rogue one was really well done. my third favorite starwars movie after empire strikes back and a new hope.
Super Girl Everytime someone says it that person is implying that is actually bad (just not THAT bad). And if something is not good its not worth to defend it. Learn to ask for something better ffs.
It's not, but it is a white savior(-ish) story. Iron Fist is a great story that is racially insensitive. Like you could make a good movie about Bruce Lee's spirit flowing into Joseph Gordon Levitt and he becomes the world's greatest martial artist and flying kicks a meteor or something (maybe not that exactly, but you get it,) and it might be a really good movie (if it wasn't that exactly,) but...really...should have went back to the drawing board conceptually. At least they have the fact that they were copying the comic as an excuse.
Super Girl I think it suffers from something that I call the "Godfather Effect" where the predecessors set the bar so high anything less will be considered trash in comparison therefore it will just be considered trash. Iron Fist is actually kinda good but just isn't great. I know I hear different opinions on what is the best Marvel Netflix series but I think most can agree Iron Fist is the least good. Still better than Agents of Shield by a mile at least.
JJ the best show & Defender?? Seriously? & Danny Rand never went through anything difficult? How about his parents dying & being abandoned in Asia as a kid, and then taken in by a group of strict warrior monks who put him through some pretty intense training.
Hm, I only watched half of Luke Cage and one episode of Iron Fist, and I thought this video would allow me to skip what I missed, but it was so rushed, I feel like I should still watch those episodes before Defenders... hm.
That's the point. Besides, I really got bored of Luke Cage and I only heard bad things about Iron Fist. I thought I can skip those if I watch a video like this. Well, maybe I will try to get through those episodes before I watch Defenders.
Justin When you need to make a comparison for a product you're just trying anything to defend something you like. Luke Cage is decent at its best and IF is bad under any point of view: bad choreography, acting, no comic relief and the plot kept dragging a passive protagonist trying to give him something to do. It's not even that this is my opinion or yours: these are facts. Proven by critics, stunt choreographers and actors. You may like it but it still will suck.
ok .. so just finished defenders. The only problem I had with it was it felt like every episode was 15 minutes long. It was so good when it ended I had forgot the time. Loved it.
I cannot thank you enough for making this video. The first season of Daredevil came out forever ago and I can hardly remember what's happened in each Marvel show to know what the hell is going on in The Defenders. Thank you.
To be honest, and I know this is an unpopular opinion... I don't think Iron Fist is THAT bad. It's not as good as Daredevil S1 and S2 and Jessica Jones, but I found myself enjoying bits of it a lot more than Luke Cage which fell apart for me halfway through. Iron Fist still drew me in.
I just wish Danny would have had a clear character motivation from the jump. Had he come home to fight the Hand, turned down control of Rand, learned the Hand infiltrated Rand and THEN tried to take over the company, that would have been compelling, because he would have had to fight evil with something beside his fists. Instead he shows up, wants his company back, but doesn't seem to care about being the IF. Colleen is the best thing about the show.
Yeah, Luke Cage gradually fell apart from a solid first episode. Whereas Iron Fist was plagued by constant ups and downs, but it had no real glue to hold it together (bad fight choreography, really dumb decisions made constantly by Danny, some really bad acting, meh...). For fans of the Netflixverse, I would recommend watching it because it's the only show so far that actually had an interesting expansion of the universe first setup in DD1 (different factions of the Hand, the way they did the immortality thing etc). But I would not recommend it in general. On rewatch, DD2 doesn't hold up either. Punisher and Fisk are great. As is some of the cinematography as well as the fight choreography in the first first episodes. But wow, does it ever start to decline big time with a really bad and poorly acted Elektra, badly written dialogues and a really unnecessarily convoluted plot that depends on too many coincidences. And DD1 is one of my favorite seasons of telivision I've ever watched. So it's not like I say it lightly. Still looking forward to Defenders though.
The fact the showrunners didn't know what to do with ninjas in DD2 doesn't mode well for the Defenders (same showrunners). Problem is Luke cage threw away a great villain played by an academy award winner, for a guy out of nowhere with a personal connection to Luke cage that wasn't foreshadowed at all.
When it comes down to the brass tacks, Jessica Jones will not hesitate to kill the really evil guys, while the rest are still shuffling their feet like schoolboys and let others get hurt even as they save the bad guys. She is the most badass and the best defender.
I agree.. but daredevil's principles on justice and his beleif in redemption makes him greater.. For instance JJ would have killed Grotto even though he wanted to repent.. but not Matt.. I think that makes him a better defender
I look forward to the Defenders. I really enjoyed DareDevil and Jessica Jones. Had no desire to watch Cage and Ironfist. JJ did drag on a bit too long but was a great story overall. Glad you gave me a catch up vid to prepare for the Defenders.
Daredevil season one was amazing. Season two was mostly just more of the same, went on way too long but with some worthwhile moments thanks to Punisher. Jessica Jones could have been accomplished in half the episodes, was hard to enjoy because of how much it dragged. I skipped Luke Cage and Iron Fist on suspicion they'd be a continuation of this downward trend in quality, and reviews more or less confirmed that. But I'm actually looking forward to The Defenders since I'm hoping Marvel have learned a thing or two about what works and what doesn't from all the previous series'. Plus they're doing it in fewer episodes than usual, so there oughta be less drag and more actual story to enjoy. Thanks for catching me up!
Man your video is awesome and it save my two days as i have not watched luke cage and dont want to but why skipping the iron fist are you mad, at this point you are totally wrong.
This, is, THE MOST, amazing thing I've ever seen. I laughed my ass off the entire time but now I am ready to watch the defenders without having to finish iron fist luke cage or jessica jones
Thank you! Was hesitant about starting Defenders because I couldn't remember any of the key plot points from the second Daredevil series and really didn't want to sit through Luke Cage or Iron Fist (excited for Defenders because I liked Daredevil and Jessica Jones THAT much! ). Thanks for catching me up!
Watching this story all at once is actually really awesome. I loved all of the shows, and think that Iron Fist is a lot better than people give it credit for. These stories together are actually pretty cohesive
But Spiderman should be in the shows. He's like the protector of the neighboring Queens and is also pretty street level giving him access to info the Avengers neglect.
Wait, since when did Iron Fist never work hard for anything? His parents died, he was orphaned in a strange place, yet through sheer hard work and skill climbed to the top of that society and became their top warrior. And then as Danny after his parents died and he disappeared he had to work to prove his identity, fight against the people who killed his parents and took over their business, and regain control of his dead parent's business empire. I mean, I know the show had it's slow parts and weak points, including some of the acting and writing and fight scenes. But it's not like Danny didn't work for anything at all and just stumbled into everything. Seems like people are just looking for reasons to hate Iron Fist and the character, which is unfortunate, as Iron Fist and his relationship with Luke Cage was some of the earliest and most important work done in comics in terms of addressing social issues and racial divides.
Correction: DAREDEVIL is the best Marvel Netflix show. Jessica Jones was a little too slow to start IMO, & while Jones, Purple Man & even Luke Cage steal the show, the rest was decent. Just decent. DD fired on all cylinders right out the gate & only started slipping slightly toward the end of season 2.
Dyutiparna Guha, it's my opinion that the original opinion is wrong. I said why I feel so. To quote the Joker, "Why so serious?" You that much of a Jessica Jones fan? Don't be so damn uptight.
If I'm binge watching something, I like a slower pace so for me, JJ is the best of them all. I also like psychological thrillers more than beat'em ups so again, JJ works for me. David Tenant playing a villain is always scene stealing excellence so again, JJ worked for me. If none of those things are your cup of tea, yeah you're probably going to hate it and DD is your thing.
This was one of the best things I've ever watched in my entire life. The commentary- on point The jokes- on point The snippet of WHAT- on point My god that was more entertaining than the series you talked about👌
Has anyone watched the Defenders yet? What do you guys think?
ScreenCrush I did lol it was so fucking awesome
ScreenCrush its amazing
ScreenCrush It's absolutely amazing
ScreenCrush l don't like it , too many Action.
Snoozefest eps 1 and 2. They said it picks up in ep 4 so I skipped. Still boring. Plus annoying cam shots that move too much
I disagree with you, I think Daredevil is the best Marvel Netflix show, hell out of all of them Defenders mostly felt like a Daredevil season 2.5 out of anything
It was half Daredevil 2.5 & half Iron Fist 1.5.
k but remember, dude is a feminist, clearly.
thank you!
SnakeEater866 same
JJ is better in characters, but DD is better in fight. JJ is more like a Thriller, DD is more like superhero tv show. DD is as good as JJ, but in different way,
The second season of Daredevil was just amazing, that staircase fight scene and the punisher prisión scene were incredible
@Indigo Lampo wow, it’s almost as if this comment was written 4 years ago
@@drunktoast3289 lol. I guess we all coming back after Spiderman. Crazy how connected Marvel became. Can’t wait to see how they redeem the Inhumans in a decade
to me the best was season one and season 3, season 2 had that crazy nobu storyline and elektra being revived at the end just to be ignored later
btw havent watched defenders so this might be adressed
@Indigo Lampo i just did, didnt even know it existed before stumbling into this vid
Daredevil is the best defender and even the MCU recognizes this. That's how he caught that brick
Because he's a very good lawyer
also a best lawyer
People just say Jessica Jones is as good as Daredevil because they love Krysten Ritter. I love her too and have ever since I saw her in Breaking Bad but the time and effort put into Daredevil shows more than it does in almost any other Netflix show.
I loved her ever since she was in Gilmore girls
She played as Jane in BB??
I never noticed that, I should’ve. Damn.
I think the best thing was Kilgrave- Tennant is one of my favourite actors of all time!
Her and David Tennant as Kilgrave are pretty much the selling point of the show and the only thing that makes it good. Other than that Jessica Jones as a show is a frustrating mess.
It was still good but no where near as good as daredevil but better than Luke cage
*I wish they were all in costumes tho. I'm not saying put them in fucking spandex but at least give them some sort of tactical/combat suit*
Iron Fist is the only other one that wears a costume, isn't he?
Ryan Arey Luke Useually wears huge yellow shirts, and big gloves.
Oh right. I was thinking of the 70s outfit they teased him in during the flashback. I mostly remember him wearing a black tee shirt and leading the "illegal" Avengers team. Ever read his Max title?
Iron fist is the only other character that has an actual costume
StacheShadow
But has it actually made a large enough appearance like Matt's?
"This is the best marvel netflix show" Nah bruh. Daredevil is
Also. Iron Fist was not that bad as some people make it seem
Totally agreed.I enjoyed all 4 shows
@@labrosbadis757 same
Yeah man, I enjoyed Iron fist as much as Daredevil
I agree about Iron Fist. The first episode was trash. The way he came back just fully expecting to re-integrate into regular life with tattered clothes and *no shoes* felt very disingenuous. The way they started us out as viewers just as confused as the people he was encountering made me want to turn it off. After episode 1, it got much better though.
My name is Danny rand and im the iron fist protector of kun lun
My name is Tchalla I am the black panther and protector of Wakanda and I took over as king for my father
I am Steve rogers
I am..NO....We...
Are Venommmm.....
No Barry, WE are The Flash
WE are Groot
*I AM VENGEANCE! I AM THE NIGHT! I AM BATMAN!*
Fullmetal Shenron No
WE ARE VENOM
"has never worked for anything in his life" ...so how does he have the iron fist?
ouch he fought a dragon.
white privilege
He literally got beaten with sticks, train his entire life, was homeless and had to fight a dragon... yep -Definitely white privilege-
Killed a dragon off screen.
He must be one of those brash and undisciplined warrior monks you don't hear about. There's alot of whining, and temper tantrums, and virtually no abstract thinking from Danny, which is all okay if the action scenes are good enough, after all they have to be for a show about a hero who's power is kung fu magic... But no, there are a couple stand out fights, but the majority of the action sequences were sloppy and uninspired.
His dad bought Kun lun (jk)
Matt quits being Daredevil? I thought he was just telling Karen because he was feeling lonely and wanted another person to understand him.
It's in the promo material for the Defenders.
Justin or maybe they got attacked all of a sudden and he didn't have his suit with him, so he had to make do with Jessica's scarf.
They said in the trailers and interviews that Matt 'hung up his cape' at the beginning of the Defenders.
Yeah, that caught me off guard because I JUST finished Season 2 and I don't remember that at all.
Losing you're parents to a plane crash, spending most of you're childhood fighting people and getting beaten with sticks, fighting a damn Dragon, being a homeless person that no one listens to and spending alot of time at a Dojo.
Can't get more privileged than that
And from what we saw from season 2 trailers: Getting beat up very badly to earn the title of the Iron fist. I despise how many people call him priviledged and stuff like that. He is the most strong willed defender.
@@PanosM21 True
Danny Rand gets a bad rep. Good character.
He's such a white man slash orphan slash plane crash victim!
my main problem is how they kinda make him underpowered. like in Defenders, he should be able to beat the entire team in a fight. but my boy daredevil’s like “I did boxing when I was a kid, HIYA!” so in short. Danny needs to go back for training
I love Jessica Jones and Daredevil equally. They're very different concepts and very different shows. Jessica Jones could legitametly be its own stand alone detective series that's completely unrelated to the defenders and i wouldn't mind. It has a very mysterious and mature vibe. Daredevil is more action packed and blood crazy. Not to mention the characters are to die for. Foggy? Wholesome as hell. Stick? Very entertaining. I feel like in order to like one show over the other is to like one concept over the other, and that is crazy martial arts and blood Vs eerie detective drama.
The "white privledge" sneeze had me dead!
I mean it is his father company
So Iron Fist spent his childhood being beaten with sticks by Shaolin monks, being beaten up by Kung fu dudes and he fought a dragon and he never had to work for anything? It seems that he was the only defender who actually worked for his powers.
David Fadul Daredevil worked his ass off to learn martial arts and overcome his handicap.
DaStrangeMan Does he ever use two fists in the comic?
And sorry about the blanket statement "never worked hard for anything in his life." More a reference to being handed billions of dollars. BUT, Davos was jealous of Danny in part because Danny didn't seem to want the honor. He was given something Davos also worked hard for, and at the first opportunity he abandoned the people he swore to protect.
The show would have been better if it had focused more on his training to become Iron Fist than it did on the "will they/won't they believe he's really Danny" plot. That said, the show itself isn't that bad.
Or at least gave us Arrow style flashbacks. I don't hate the show, I just think it was only made because they needed to do it before the Defenders came out, and it was rushed.
In my opinion,Daredevil was the coolest of the four,and also his fights are so well done for a tv show...
"Jessica Jones. Super Strength. Alcoholic. Best Defender." 👏🏽😂
How can you call Jessica Jones the best defender. Matt Murdock/Daredevil is the best
@@mohanalakshmi1888 because opinions exist bro
@@mohanalakshmi1888 I agree. I Love Matt
@@dylan-nf4ge Yeah I know I think I'm just a bit too much fan of daredevil
@@mohanalakshmi1888
Well I mean, i just finished Jessica Jones today right after I finished daredevil and the defenders,
And I would say that Jessica is just about as cool as Matt.
But, uh, I’m a very huge fan of daredevil so I guess I have to agree with you.
Danny Rand - Trained by monks to be a martial arts master...struggles to fight expendable thugs that took a single krav maga class.
never worked hard for anything? dude had to plunge his fists into a dragons heart. by punching it. through the heart.
pic or it didn't happen.
I would pay 10 Netflix subscriptions to see THAT show
Justin I actually liked the meechums storyline, it had some real drama.
17thchamber don't forget to mention that it's made of molten lava and hurt like shit too
Wait that scene was in the defenders
I am glad I didn't listen to the reviews of Iron Fist that all suggested it was bad. It was good, sure not as good as some of the others but still a decent show.
Yeah, I loved Iron Fist. He's my favorite comic book character ever and even though this was a little bit of a let down, I really enjoyed this version of him. Everyone always says the fight scenes are awful (and yes, I enjoy Daredevil's more) but they felt powerful like an actual warrior monk would use those fighting styles. Daredevil's was more brutal and hardcore but it wasn't as well rounded. Here's my ranking of the shows.
1- Iron Fist
2- Jessica Jones (Pretty much tied with Iron Fist)
3- Daredevil S.1
4- Luke Cage (First half is tied with Daredevil)
5- Daredevil S.2
I'm pretty sure Defenders will be my favorite.
ow hell no!
1. Dardevil 1
2. Jessica Jones
3. Luke Cage
4. Daredevil 2
5. Iron Fist (and I did like it but it didnt beat the others for sure)
cafehc lol daredevil season 2 is not worse that luke cage
luke cage is a masterpiece
Antony D'Andrea
Iron fist will get better. The actor just needed to learn more martial arts moves. They also need to make danny better at fighting.
I feel like Danny worked hard growing up. Especially for the iron fist. That's just my opinion though
This was fantastic. There was so much time between each show that by the time defenders came round I had totally forgotten some of the most important information from season 2 of daredevil
I have to say that Daredevil is the best show out of these four. Also, Iron fist is not that bad it does have some problems but it's a working process
Iron Fist's character is developing. People may not like him now but over time he'll become a much more likeable character
I just didnt like his too predictable anger attacks it was exhargerated.
The_shadow They couldn't develop him when they had 13 episodes to do it? And you expect people to hold out hope.
Yeah. I feel like Danny is just kinda dumb or something. Something feels off. It must be that his character is underdeveloped.
U were right watch the main ingredient to see what I mean
This comment didn’t age well 😬
Best show out of all of them:
Daredevil 😈
Luke cage 💪🏾
Jesica Jones🕵🏻♀️
Iron fist 👊
Bruh emojis are spot on
Iron fist sucks. I wasted my precious time watching that shit show. I was only watching it because I wanted to watch defenders.
Jessica Jones emoji should be alcohol based
It's funny that I watched this even tho I watched all 4 shows and just finished Defenders
I just rewatched all the shows leading up to Defenders. So, I can honestly say I enjoyed the second half of Luke Cage & Iron Fist far more the second time around. I guess since I knew what to expect this time.
Justin I agree that According to the Marvel Netflix shows they are the weakest. But I'm seeing a lot of people call them bad/trash, which just isn't true.
Their quality is still higher than most (if not all) the DC shows which are all considered hits on the CW.
I almost quit on Iron First half way through, but decided to stick it out. So glad I did because the 2nd half was MUCH better.
Wish I could agree. But I took a while watching the first part of Iron Fist which I totally was waiting for because it was just boring to me. I know I am comparing it to great material earlier but thats how it goes. If DD was not good I would not have sat through all of other shows. Luke Cage was so great early on with the first story ark with Cotton Mouth. After he leaves it went down hill. Why do I care about Cage's half brother? Cuz he is crazy?
What is there really to like about Iron Fist? Cuz he is a giant child who wants to run a corporation into the ground and he is the most gullible super hero ever? Me and my girlfriend just would cringe over how anyone could get this guy purchase snow living in Antarctica. Wing was the BEST part of the show until she started following Rand's lead.
Alex Luke Cage's half brother was important to the story, because he was the one that set Luke's whole story in motion. It was because of him that Luke was sent to Prison (where he got his powers). & It was because of their dad's treatment of Stryker that he hated Luke.
As for Iron Fist, & In context with the show. It made sense for Danny to be conflicted & child like. He didn't grow up like Davos for the first 10 to 12 years of his life. He was a Billionaires child... Which means he had access to basically anything he wanted. A plane crash later. He now has dead parents & nothing of his own.
Also, he never properly grieved his parents like any child Danny's age would. The monks then teach him to lock all his emotions away.
Kun-Lun being isolated from the rest of the World didn't give him any room to grow. Basically, Danny is still a child emotionally & having to learn to grow up once he returns to NY... It actually leaves room for quite a bit of growth for the character.
By the end of season 2 he could be the Iron Fist everyone expected him to be. Season 1 was necessary in getting him there. And, I think they did a good job getting that point across.
@Peculiar Mann. I do not disagree that the character is important to Luke Cage I will just say the story did a piss poor job of making me care about him. I cared about Cotton Mouth and his murderous cousin/politician. You can make vengeance a story motivational point and misdirected anger but gotta show some empathy for the character who hates to at least get people to understand where he is coming from. Just cuz he hates Cage does not give reason to why he wants to rule over everyone with a fist or kill everyone.
Iron Fist, we will have to Agree to disagree here. Rand's childlike wonder would be tolerable if he was this big hearted guy who went around helping others and except for helping lower the price of the new drug he didn't do anything to help others in any direct way. Being out of touch is one thing, being completely oblivious when you are the CHOSEN WARRIOR MONK is quite another. You can't expect that you will get multiple seasons to tell what should be ONE season story ark.
I know he has emotions to work through but can it be done in a manner that can at least illustrate a well trained warrior monk coming to grips with his past and not a giant child who trusts EVERYONE. Wing was awesome in the show but she went overnight from not wanting anything to do with Rand to being all about him and betraying her master for him. At the end of the day I leaned more towards other ppl in the sense that I did not really like his character. Above all else ppl gotta at least like ya to root for ya and sit through 13 episodes. His show took the longest time for me to finish and was the only one I watched the day it was released. Is it a horrible show no. Could have been better with a more flawed character not just a childish one. Maybe to see your points more I will rewatch the series but I am not crossing my fingers.
15 years. K'un Lun appears every FIFTEEN years, not ten.
And Danny "never worked hard for anything in his life?" Did you even watch the fucking show? He beat a dragon to get the iron fist. In fact, he's the only one who earned his powers and not through some happy accident.
Matt didn't earn his powers. He trained to use it as a strength AFTER the accident blinded him and gave him powers. It was, for intents and purposes, an ACCIDENT.
oh and btw forgot the mention Davos.
Megajon being blind is a happy accident?
He's not in the Defenders, so he doesn't matter.
-_- Getting their powers was the accident. They all went through some accident to get their powers except for Danny Rand. Yeah, crashing in the mountains wasn't planned but he willingly beat a dragon to get his powers. Something he trained for.
Megajon That radioactive truck Matt was hit with wasn't planned either. I agree with you on Jessica and Luke, but not with Daredevil. The guy legit has a disability and trained hard to overcome it, and even use it to his advantage.
I wouldn't call being beaten half to death then being brought back to life with super powers a happy accident.
Damn Claire is in Iron Fist too?! Wtf
Invincible Speaker yeah she is in many eps
She is basically everywhere
She is in every storyline besides JJ
@@amccito2270 wat shes in JJ too
I personally like all the series, including Iron Fist. I always wondered why no one talked about Claire sleeping every guy she meets, but Luke Cage is the one she must like the most since she stole his line "Sweet Christmas".
Slap me with a kipper and call me Shirley but I enjoyed Iron First!
me too
Hithrae Whatever you say Shirley
can i slap you with a mace
Me too
The information on here is inaccurate lol and way too fast for anyone who's never watched the shows before.
Guys calm down the coolest character in all this is the punisher. If you disagree fight me.
Daredevil and the punisher is the best
I like Punisher and Jessica best. They give zero fucks and are always the most flawed.
@@Achhantei jessica boring af
@@azrael_morningstar Well she never gives a flying fuck about anything what do you expect
@@Slick-px2rm agreed
I've been rewatching all of Daredevil but I knew I'd have to also watch the Defenders. So I've been rewatching all the other shows as well except I didn't want to have to watch iron fist, so that's why I'm watching this.
Am I the only one who really liked iron fist
Ethan Bach absolutely not. I loved all the Netflix shows. Most people liked iron fist. It's the vocal 1% That don't and have to make sure everyone knows they don't like it
Nop , Iron Fist is my favourite Marvel's Netflix show
Ethan Bach i really liked iron fist too!
Donald Grenke Same I loved all of the Marvel Netflix shows.
I liked it
Did Matt Murdock quit being Daredevil? Didn't it just end with him revealing his identity to Karen?
Yeah idk, presumably that chance happened between the end of DD S2 and the start of the defenders, given that the whole of Luke Cage and Iron Fist season 1 had to happen in that interval.
Nope. Like it's said "Once a Hero, always a Hero "
He did quite being daredevil, has no one in the comments watched the show
Most comprehensive summary I've ever seen in RUclips. Cheers to you.
Cant wait for this weekend!
Me neither.
Is Star Wars good?
+Umar Butt Better than the crappy prequels, not as good as the first trilogy. I kind of found the characters a little flat as is JJ Abrams signature, but it's a good popcorn movie. Didn't see Rogue One though.
rogue one was incredible...i went in with low expectations after the force awakens was just okay but rogue one was really well done. my third favorite starwars movie after empire strikes back and a new hope.
Brendan O'Brien You can find the whole Defender's series on a website called gomovies. Binge watched the whole series today lol
Iron Fist is really not that bad
Super Girl +2
Super Girl Everytime someone says it that person is implying that is actually bad (just not THAT bad). And if something is not good its not worth to defend it. Learn to ask for something better ffs.
Most of the people who have issues with Iron Fist, are SJW'S and mellinials.
It's not, but it is a white savior(-ish) story. Iron Fist is a great story that is racially insensitive.
Like you could make a good movie about Bruce Lee's spirit flowing into Joseph Gordon Levitt and he becomes the world's greatest martial artist and flying kicks a meteor or something (maybe not that exactly, but you get it,) and it might be a really good movie (if it wasn't that exactly,) but...really...should have went back to the drawing board conceptually. At least they have the fact that they were copying the comic as an excuse.
Super Girl I think it suffers from something that I call the "Godfather Effect" where the predecessors set the bar so high anything less will be considered trash in comparison therefore it will just be considered trash. Iron Fist is actually kinda good but just isn't great.
I know I hear different opinions on what is the best Marvel Netflix series but I think most can agree Iron Fist is the least good. Still better than Agents of Shield by a mile at least.
This was done so well, great job guys
JJ the best show & Defender?? Seriously? & Danny Rand never went through anything difficult? How about his parents dying & being abandoned in Asia as a kid, and then taken in by a group of strict warrior monks who put him through some pretty intense training.
Hm, I only watched half of Luke Cage and one episode of Iron Fist, and I thought this video would allow me to skip what I missed, but it was so rushed, I feel like I should still watch those episodes before Defenders... hm.
RedVIII Yes, yes you should. Why do people spoil themselves before they watch the show.(sighs internally)
Who's got the time to watch everything these days?
That's the point. Besides, I really got bored of Luke Cage and I only heard bad things about Iron Fist. I thought I can skip those if I watch a video like this. Well, maybe I will try to get through those episodes before I watch Defenders.
RedVIII Luke Cage e1-e7 was great, what came after blew and was a chore to finish.
Ryan Arey Everyone technically. To me, even if it takes you weeks or months to finish something, it's better than ruining the experience for yourself.
It's sounds like he doesn't care for iron fist or Luke cage their shows are great too
No I think it's just iron fist. Luke Cage gets a lot of love. As it should, because it was amazing.
Justin When you need to make a comparison for a product you're just trying anything to defend something you like. Luke Cage is decent at its best and IF is bad under any point of view: bad choreography, acting, no comic relief and the plot kept dragging a passive protagonist trying to give him something to do. It's not even that this is my opinion or yours: these are facts. Proven by critics, stunt choreographers and actors. You may like it but it still will suck.
I find that LC is great for the first half and decent for the second. IF feels like the reverse order of that.
This video is amazing! So hilarious... Keep up the great work!!!
This is a fantastic (and hilarious!!) recap!!! And so spot on. I love it!
As someone who watched all of these. This was the best recap ever! Great refresher before watching defenders!
ok .. so just finished defenders. The only problem I had with it was it felt like every episode was 15 minutes long. It was so good when it ended I had forgot the time. Loved it.
I cannot thank you enough for making this video. The first season of Daredevil came out forever ago and I can hardly remember what's happened in each Marvel show to know what the hell is going on in The Defenders. Thank you.
This is amazing, thanks for putting this up!
To be honest, and I know this is an unpopular opinion... I don't think Iron Fist is THAT bad. It's not as good as Daredevil S1 and S2 and Jessica Jones, but I found myself enjoying bits of it a lot more than Luke Cage which fell apart for me halfway through. Iron Fist still drew me in.
It was the same for me too
ps Please don't eat my pants XD
I just wish Danny would have had a clear character motivation from the jump. Had he come home to fight the Hand, turned down control of Rand, learned the Hand infiltrated Rand and THEN tried to take over the company, that would have been compelling, because he would have had to fight evil with something beside his fists. Instead he shows up, wants his company back, but doesn't seem to care about being the IF. Colleen is the best thing about the show.
I agree
Yeah, Luke Cage gradually fell apart from a solid first episode. Whereas Iron Fist was plagued by constant ups and downs, but it had no real glue to hold it together (bad fight choreography, really dumb decisions made constantly by Danny, some really bad acting, meh...). For fans of the Netflixverse, I would recommend watching it because it's the only show so far that actually had an interesting expansion of the universe first setup in DD1 (different factions of the Hand, the way they did the immortality thing etc). But I would not recommend it in general.
On rewatch, DD2 doesn't hold up either. Punisher and Fisk are great. As is some of the cinematography as well as the fight choreography in the first first episodes. But wow, does it ever start to decline big time with a really bad and poorly acted Elektra, badly written dialogues and a really unnecessarily convoluted plot that depends on too many coincidences. And DD1 is one of my favorite seasons of telivision I've ever watched. So it's not like I say it lightly.
Still looking forward to Defenders though.
The fact the showrunners didn't know what to do with ninjas in DD2 doesn't mode well for the Defenders (same showrunners). Problem is Luke cage threw away a great villain played by an academy award winner, for a guy out of nowhere with a personal connection to Luke cage that wasn't foreshadowed at all.
Honestly I'm just here to see the iron fist recap. I don't know why anyone would choose to skip masterpieces like Daredevil or Jessica Jones.
ScreenCrush This was the first video of yours that I watched. After that, I became a fan. You make awesome videos. Keep up the good work.
Love this! Thanks for sharing. Jumping late on the shows, but very much enjoying them.
the best part is the seal interlude 'babyyy'
When it comes down to the brass tacks, Jessica Jones will not hesitate to kill the really evil guys, while the rest are still shuffling their feet like schoolboys and let others get hurt even as they save the bad guys. She is the most badass and the best defender.
I agree.. but daredevil's principles on justice and his beleif in redemption makes him greater.. For instance JJ would have killed Grotto even though he wanted to repent.. but not Matt.. I think that makes him a better defender
Perfect explanation! Thank you so much
Thanks for the great recap!
I look forward to the Defenders. I really enjoyed DareDevil and Jessica Jones. Had no desire to watch Cage and Ironfist. JJ did drag on a bit too long but was a great story overall. Glad you gave me a catch up vid to prepare for the Defenders.
Daredevil season one was amazing. Season two was mostly just more of the same, went on way too long but with some worthwhile moments thanks to Punisher. Jessica Jones could have been accomplished in half the episodes, was hard to enjoy because of how much it dragged. I skipped Luke Cage and Iron Fist on suspicion they'd be a continuation of this downward trend in quality, and reviews more or less confirmed that. But I'm actually looking forward to The Defenders since I'm hoping Marvel have learned a thing or two about what works and what doesn't from all the previous series'. Plus they're doing it in fewer episodes than usual, so there oughta be less drag and more actual story to enjoy. Thanks for catching me up!
Iron Fist is really the only one that worked for any of his superpowers being tortured in Kung Lun and attaining the iron fist WTF
This was so helpful! Thank you!
Iron Fist wasn't bad lol
True. It’s just the worst out of the 4
@@peterngunz7582 nope dude Iron Fist has the best story of all
@@mooingsage8138 STOP THE CAP🧢
@@amccito2270 you stop the cap 🧢
@@whittakerbs90 u stop the cap 🧢 u fricking liked ur on comment
Iron fist is not actually a bad show its a decent one
Thank you for the recap 😊
Wow! Brillianat summary in less than 10 mins. You really crushed It! 😁👋
Iron Fist was fine.
Matt Britton it was a C has problems but at least I could watch it from beginning to end
No.
No, it wasn't.
Agreed. I liked iron fist
Iron fist is good
Man your video is awesome and it save my two days as i have not watched luke cage and dont want to but why skipping the iron fist are you mad, at this point you are totally wrong.
Brilliant. I appreciated the wrap up too.
This is so good !!! Thank you !!!
This, is, THE MOST, amazing thing I've ever seen. I laughed my ass off the entire time but now I am ready to watch the defenders without having to finish iron fist luke cage or jessica jones
The symbol on the drugs is not the symbol of the Hand though 👌
Theshowdown 93 it shows this channel doesn't really read comicbooks I might be a woman I know what it means
Theshowdown 93 I’m super late but in the show that’s the symbol for the hand
Amazing video. Thank you!
Thank you! Was hesitant about starting Defenders because I couldn't remember any of the key plot points from the second Daredevil series and really didn't want to sit through Luke Cage or Iron Fist (excited for Defenders because I liked Daredevil and Jessica Jones THAT much! ). Thanks for catching me up!
Watching this story all at once is actually really awesome. I loved all of the shows, and think that Iron Fist is a lot better than people give it credit for. These stories together are actually pretty cohesive
But Spiderman should be in the shows. He's like the protector of the neighboring Queens and is also pretty street level giving him access to info the Avengers neglect.
Fingers crossed for a Spider-Man / Daredevil crossover.
I hope not, can’t imagine tom holland being shot and beat up to unconsciousness by punisher
Ryan Arey There's rumors saying Daredevil might appear in Homecoming 2
This was really really great and helpful!
what an amazing recap! congrats
Wait, since when did Iron Fist never work hard for anything? His parents died, he was orphaned in a strange place, yet through sheer hard work and skill climbed to the top of that society and became their top warrior. And then as Danny after his parents died and he disappeared he had to work to prove his identity, fight against the people who killed his parents and took over their business, and regain control of his dead parent's business empire.
I mean, I know the show had it's slow parts and weak points, including some of the acting and writing and fight scenes. But it's not like Danny didn't work for anything at all and just stumbled into everything. Seems like people are just looking for reasons to hate Iron Fist and the character, which is unfortunate, as Iron Fist and his relationship with Luke Cage was some of the earliest and most important work done in comics in terms of addressing social issues and racial divides.
Correction: DAREDEVIL is the best Marvel Netflix show. Jessica Jones was a little too slow to start IMO, & while Jones, Purple Man & even Luke Cage steal the show, the rest was decent. Just decent. DD fired on all cylinders right out the gate & only started slipping slightly toward the end of season 2.
Nick Young ever heard of a thing called an "opinion"??
"Correction: My opinion is superior to everyone else you must listen to meeeeee!!!!"
Dyutiparna Guha, it's my opinion that the original opinion is wrong. I said why I feel so. To quote the Joker, "Why so serious?" You that much of a Jessica Jones fan? Don't be so damn uptight.
Why yes, yes it is, Huge Nerd! Real recognize real! Just mad because I expressed a dissenting opinion.
If I'm binge watching something, I like a slower pace so for me, JJ is the best of them all. I also like psychological thrillers more than beat'em ups so again, JJ works for me. David Tenant playing a villain is always scene stealing excellence so again, JJ worked for me. If none of those things are your cup of tea, yeah you're probably going to hate it and DD is your thing.
Awesome video. Helped a lot 👍
THE most EPIC intro EVER! Well done mate, this was better than the actual shows :D
Did you say your cat's name is Artemis?
yes.
Sharp Shooter!
then the narrator is sailor venus
I live for all the jessica jones love💕🌺
This was very helpful. Thank you.
Thank you, I needed this! :)
Daredevil is waaaaaaaay better than Jessica jones
Yeh definitely
Definitely
Definitely
absolute factss
Yes
I actually really love iron fist. It’s such a good show.
This was exactly what I needed thank you.
Loved this!
Doesn't Kun Lun only appear every 15 years?
Agents of SHIELD is still the best MCU show.
It's shit and boring
Frank Castle let me guess, you just watched the first half of season one.
@@frankcastle4547 you can meet the gost rider in season 4, and yes AOS is the best
Thanks you so much for this
thanx i needed this recap
*W H A T ?*
Iron 👏Fist 👏was 👏GREAT 👏
That was an intense overview =) Thanks guys!
thank you so much for making this video! it was also quite hilarious
Wtf! Matt didn't quit being Daredevil!
Tyler Schultz actually he did.
Tyler Schultz watch defenders episode one you'll understand more.
Tyler Schultz Omgosh they spoiled part of the Defenders storyline😂😂😂
secret ninja watch daredevil season 3 lol
"Jessica Jones; Super Strength, Alcoholic and Best Defender" I agree with this statement.
jjninja2 i don't agree. Why is she the best?
@@krismartinez2685 iron fist is better
@@coolswagdude1682 daredevil is better
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Kris Martinez daredevil is the best
This was one of the best things I've ever watched in my entire life.
The commentary- on point
The jokes- on point
The snippet of WHAT- on point
My god that was more entertaining than the series you talked about👌
Amazing recap !!!!