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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- Nadeem Farooq Paracha, also known as NFP, is a Pakistani journalist, author, cultural critic, satirist and historian. He is a columnist for Pakistan's largest English-language daily Dawn.
NFP comes on the podcast to discuss Twitter, The cult of Imran Khan, The Pakistani Identity, Mohajir Nationalism, Secularism and Waseem Raja.
Should Karachi be separated from Sindh?
How do we fight the cult of Imran Khan?
Do Pakistanis have an identity crisis?
Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.
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The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:00 Twitter
6:00 Polarization, PTI and Imran Khan
24:30 Disillusionment of politics
34:00 Muhajir Nationalism and Altaf Hussain
56:30 Karachi and Sindh
1:04:00 The City Perspective
1:11:00 Political Narratives
1:15:00 Accepting History and Culture
1:20:00 Pakistan's Identity Crisis
1:33:00 Secularism: The Church and the State
1:43:00 Social Media and Journalism
2:00:30 PTI: The cult of Imran KHan
2:16:00 Waseem Raja
2:19:30 Humanizing humans
2:27:40 QnA
Listened to with rapt attention though I am from India. The two of these have so much content and are presented with so much humor. All the best.
First time in my life Iv watched a 3 hour long video that wasn’t a Bollywood flick. Thanks Shahzad for inviting NFP. I am one of those people who actually went from a Pak studies fuelled jazbati khah makhah ka Bharam baz Pakistani to a little balanced and sane student of history only because of NFP. I started following him since the good old days of “on the fringe” and he single handedly changed the way I thought about Pakistan, Islam etc. Have always wanted to meet him and this is as close as it can be. Thanks again my friend.
after reading your comment i had to look at the time
He is an old burnt out druggie
Good one. I have no idea why they are hell bent on proving pti as a cult. Who are blind and deaf and just want to destroy pakistan on whim of imran khan. It some how remind me of mum and pmln. Infact the reason I enjoyed pti was everyone can be critical of ik and be respectful of others at the same time which was a breath of fresh air. Secondly, if you are learning islam from paracha then I guess you should go and learn science from maulana fazlurrehman I am sure he will make you view science in a new light.😂
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I am a baloch nationalist , this is the only pakistani show i watch regularly
Balochiistan is incredible.
NFP: Feudalism is dying.
Nizam jokhio says otherwise and im more inclined to believe him rather than a jiyala.
NFP: PPP were very smart coz they did nothing but connected Sindh to federal power and Karachi.
Translation: by providing no governance and giving jobs to PPP favourites in center's debt ridden state owned enterprises (SOE) PPP has played a part in developing Sindh.
What a way to turn PPP nepotism,absence of merit and contribution to destroying SOE's into a merit.
Thank you !!! Finally someone with common sense showed up.
the worst thing is, host was totally clueless !!!. :( God bless you A Farooq. for speaking up.
Neutral journalism k liye ankhein taras gai hain
@@f22raptor88 in a society like ours, forget about it ! Incapable folks, to actually talk about real issues. In 75+ years of partial existence as after ‘71 we have lost the real Pak of ‘47, in those 75+ years we don’t even have a socio- economic baseline for our society 😂.
Ap extremely bogotes lag rahe ho. Itni explanation ki zarorat nahi. Lol
Nadeem paracha calls himself middle-class when he grew up in and still lives in Clifton 😂😂
This should have been titled
Cult of HATERS of Imran Khan
@@ThePakistanExperience Pakistan > Cult of HATERS of Imran Khan
@@ThePakistanExperience Dude you know it, I know it what you guys are doing and why you are doing it, I am just calling you out for what you are. There isnt any shadow of doubt you guys are the real cult and spewing hatred and nonsense against Imran Khan and inevitably wants to damage Pakistan.
@@ThePakistanExperience
Great man ❤️
@@ThePakistanExperience your responses are extremely childish just like your laughter. Who hasn't destroyed Pakistan? Parties who came on military crutches like Nawaz, Bhutto, Imran parties have all destroyed Pakistan by abrogating constitutions. Isn't violation of constitution the biggest disaster in a country? I am all for criticism of IK but what about criticism of other parties who have done more destructive things in past. Your podcasts are more like anti IK sermons
And uthao of ppp
For your kind information,bengoli script is written in brahmi script where hindi is written in devnagri/sanskrit script, all costal indian stare, Thailand Myanmar combodia Laos Indonesia use different form of Brahmi script
Here is a suggestion Shehzad..you are a Sindhi and when you were talking about Muhazirs I started thinking about Sindhi refugees in India.Though they are more or less assimilated now but they must be facing challenges to preserve their language and culture here in India when they have no land of their "own".please talk to any distinguished Indian Sindhi about your shared heritage.That will be an interesting watch.Punjabis do that very often why not Sindhis
Well of course they are assimilated even taking part in anti-Muslim pogroms. Like advani and Maya kodnani etc.
jiye bhutooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Even Pakistani Sindhi doesn't know how to write in the original Sindhi.
TPE's forum for intellectual discourse is a blessing for our ignorant society. Keep it up. We are proud of you Shehzad.🌟This podcast was truly insightful and spot on👍🌟
Firstly, the term “mahajir” is just a status not a ethnicity. For example, my grandparents migrated from Allahabad, IN to Karachi, PA during the partition. They were real Mahajir in term of migration status but their ethnicity will still stay the same as Punjabi (Naga Jats). Overall, since we were born in Pakistan, that migration status does not apply to us now rather but our ethnicity (identity), nationality (Pakistani), and pity (relationship with Allah SWT).
So your grandparents are those cowards who ran away 😂😂, and believed in delusions of alcoholic Jinnah
I've been following NFP for last 17 years - so good to finally hear him in a podcast. Thanks Shehzad!
You made most of NFP's presence! History, politics, journalism, current affairs... It is like a deal of food for thought of all these in just one sit of 3 hours. Thanks a bunch Shahzad for this podcast 🙏❤
2:56:42 2:56:42
nahi sir hum bilkul bore nahi hue, i could have easily watched it even it was for legit 200 hours, we have learnt a lot in these 3 hours, thank you, you two. keep this going! and yes we are expecting a second part.
59:25 for the longest time Karachi’s citizens have been asking for a functional local government. And for the last 15 years PPP has denied them that right, but instead of talking about the 15 year uninterrupted incompetent rule of PPP Ghias Sheikh is making a strawman argument.
No one is specifically asking for a province for Karachi. Devolve all the rights to local bodies according to the 18th amendment.
Very disingenuous podcast.
@@ThePakistanExperience Which people have demanded a separate province? Please provide their names and their statements. If you make an allegation, it must be based on facts.
Also, the disingenuous part is where you are ascribing a false demand to the people of Karachi about wanting a separate province.
Also, your argument about PPP not having enough time is moot. Since the 18th amendment, PPP has had an uninterrupted 15 years of rule in Sindh, and I do not have to tell anyone anything. The results are there for everyone to see. Compare their rank incompetence to PML’s far better governance in Punjab.
@@y2raza this is the problem with Urdu speaking community. Junaid akram time and again talks about dusray shehron se log aakay Karachi Ganda kartay hn but at the same time Hafiz naeem Jo Hyderabad se aaya hai usko mayor bananay k liye videos bnata hai Bhai wo Urdu speaking hai to gair muqami nhn hua? What a nonsense same goes for people asking about sarfaraz, who wasn't performing, the guy was so insecure he would send bowlers before going himself for batting at the end of his captaincy there are so many points I didn't even mention about what Urdu speaking community asks while doing absolutely no research on the matter themselves. This shows how self absorbed a whole community is just on the basis of their past glory
Just say openly that you are a bigot. Local govt ke peeche chupne ki zarorat nahi. Lol.
The host is Sindhi that's why he is discarding the issue of the Quota system which is neglecting KHI people with their basic necessities.
@@minhajdesigns you should do a little research and dig a little deep as to who introduced quota system in the first place
What a brilliant podcast. Shahzad you truly are one of a kind. There is no one in Pakistan who does the work that you do, who can ask the questions that you ask. Wish we had more people like that. Wish you all the best. Please keep you doing what you have been doing.
Exactly first podcaster I have seen who knows what the guest is talking about. Edit: In Pakistan
If the people in Pakistan have heard the name of Munshi Prem Chand , considered the best story writer in Urdu as well as Hindi. " Shatranj Ke Khiladi " is a classic movie on his book .Butt I have never heard his name from any Pakstani TV channel or RUclips ,or any literal discussion.
Punjab ka to nahi pata lekin KP me Urdu textbooks me un ki tehreren shamil Hoti he
@@jiya4084 Unho ne samaji maslon per kahanian , ya kuch books ,ghareeb tabaqe per likhi'n hain , Hindi aur Urdu dono zubao'n me. Aanke'n bhar aati hain. Utter Pardesh me ek chote se gaon se thay wo.If possible watch DO BHIGA ZAMEEN movie ( though it is black and white one.
@@romeshsharma4305 shukriya me zaroor dekhongi aur han me ne parha he un ko Haj e Akbar Meri pasandeda tehrer he unki par ye to rabindarnath tagor ke Bengali poem se inspire he
@@jiya4084 JI mujay poori jaankari nanhi hai kenyu by profession I am an engineer .But was a Urdu talib school ke waqat ,and love Urdu poetry .Do bel ( two oxes was one of his story in my matric. rona aata hai pad ker jistarah unki ki tehreer hoti hai.Shukeriya Pathan bhai
He is very poplular and also part of the syllabus because he is an important writers of Urdu literature... ... not only him but I have grown up reading novels of Krishan Chander too. They are all available in bookshops in Lahore.
I cancelled an event that i was supposed to go. just to watch this. Thanks Shehzad Bhai and NFP sir
Hello Shehzad,
Firstly I would really like to thank you for this interview. I was exposed to NFP this year via his talk at the literature festival, coming from an urdu speaking background and having lived outside Pakistan until I chose to move back 3 years ago I didn’t have much knowledge about the identity and history except the biases taught within our communities and the O,levels Pak studies syllabus.
To unlearn and educate myself has been a journey on its own. It would really be amazing if you can address questions I have, your knowledge and understanding of our history is pretty balanced as well.
1) I wasn’t aware of the history NFP has with PPP, do you think there is a bias when it comes to his perception of PPP?
2) Having seen my parents root for Altaf Hussain in the early 90s and now supporting Imran Khan with the same enthusiasm, why hasn’t PPP been able to take on the upper middle class urdu speaking demographic? Imran khan with all his vices seems to be the only option for many because there is no faith in other parties. Are we to say that all the hype around the Zardari sahib and Bhutto family is a propaganda? With the kind of wealth they have, why is there no development in Sindh on a non-government level? Education? Medical? Or are we misinformed?
3) Why did the urdu speaking community feel marginalized? Wasn’t the quota system a reality in the 80s? Was there no discrimination? does it not still exist?
Yes IK is problematic but what do the people have? Should we give PPP and PML-N a chance?
I am married to a Peracha and there are many myths that I grew up that were broken by being married into Punjabi family.
And in your opinion, do you think we are heading towards becoming a failed state?
have great respect for Paracha saab. however, him trivialising feudalism just because ppp heavily relies and supports feudals is extremely disappointing. feudalism is the biggest problem of sindh. most feudals are tribal too. you can imagine even sumerian and IVC societies had moved on from tribalism! you can imagine how backward sindh is due to wadero.
I need to stop to go to work but this is a reverting conversation. My life in US is totally peachy but this hurts me so much. Such a sad history. I used to read Paracha in the Smokers Corner in Dawn. So I am aware of his honest analysis. Shehzad is a new find for me. So I am going to learn a lot through Pakistan Experience.
This becoming a very high quality podcast. Can’t recall one this engaging out of India.
ha bhai yeh chij maine bhi realise kara india me podcast scene bohot ganda ho gaya,jo mainstream hai unka toh kya kahu,tumhe bhi pata mai kiski baat kar raha hu hahaaa....par undeerated wale bhi itne ache nahi lagta
waise agar tumhare paas reccomendations ho koi podcast ka batana zara,be it international or indian ,anthing
Still not sure how IK's movement is fascistic or cult like in its orientation, these terms are thrown around far too much. They lose their analytical purchase after a while
Yes 'cult' and 'populism' vs genuine rational support is same process of creating binaries that he critiques:
-the 'other' whose views and concerns we cannot understand are either self interested, authoritarianism loving urban classes or victims of cult and populism
@@ammarn110 self interested, authoritarianism loving urban classes or victims of cult and populism so have u found one of these in IK scene?
is podcast k bad ek bat samajh agai. Sindh government bohat zabardast hai, bohat behtareen log hain, naik log hain, kam bhi kerty hain, corruption ka to nam tak nahi suna in logon ne, interior sindh New York City se bhi behtar hai. Wah bhai Wah. Clapping. I am still standing saulting your thought process.
😂 very delusional podcast I swear
Shahzad bhai it's the first time that I haven't skipped a single segment of your podcast. Thank you for uploading it on Google podcasts. Helps me enjoy your podcasts while I do my work and studies.
Why are your podcast just against Imran khan you live in karachi ,Sindh just take a stroll around the city . I’m surprised u don’t utter a single word about incompetence of ppp and how this party has destroyed Pakistan . Yes ik may be competent and he might be not right choice but seriously I’m surprised educated people like you are just making things worse by not calling out reason thieves.
I do agree with you, the videos i've watched from this channel are purely against IK. It is a shame unfortunately I thought it would be a lot more neutral and informative like TCM bringing in people from different walks of life and experience. There seems to be a anti-imran agenda and nothing else.
Aik to IK k khabbey tattey L kha gye hain. Sindh main Jo PTI sey jeetey they they were the same guys who have won since Musharraf era, same establishment k electables who later joined PPP and then switched loyalties and joined PTI.
Excellent discussion. I just heard first time you guys, very well intellect dialect.
Both gentlemen sober and thoughtful.
Good to hear this discussion. 👌
Bro! I always enjoy the podcasts when writers, intellectuals and researchers are your guests because such podcasts augment my knowledge. This podcast was very useful. You should invite scholars from peripheries as well. For example, Shah Muhammad Marri from Balochistan and Pervesh Shaheen from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa can be invited.
bhai sir wasif se parrey ho aap???
One of the most engaging and fascinating discussions I've seen in years. Thank you
Better to be polarised than to be a part of these corrupt circus politicians which we have tested for last three decades. Moreover, huge disappointment when I see this guest referring to Altaf Hussain as Altaf Bhai who is basically a murderer and one of the sole reason for this alarming and tragic condition of Karachi.
I am a Pashtun nationalist,I like this show , but I respectfully disagree with this gentleman’s views of Imran khan. To me IK was one politician that existed the whole of country as one, and a hope that it can become a nation. But now the Pashtuns are about the only whole people that are behind him in his endeavor.
But at the end of the day we are all glued together by a tether ,(army etc)I know Pashtuns are very different culturally and mentally than say Punjabis, Pakistan is not in the future map of the world ,as it’s designed to be broken apart into its natural organic entities.
Loved the conversation. I used to read Nadeem Paracha's column regularly in Dawn and learned a lot about Pakistan. Willl have to restart reading.
This guy Paracha is a paid chaprasi of Zardari. Zaradari aka Mister 10 percent is the king of corrupts, he destroyed Sindh and looted the entire province.
I used to regularly follow his articles about contemporary politics in Dawn News paper. Thanks for inviting NFP.
Admire NFP's ntellectual honesty and integrity that makes his discourse authentic and reliable.
Glad to listen to his sane voice.
Please take the trouble of explaining how Mr. Bhutto was engineered by the establishment. It is true that he served under a military regime. However, he rose to great heights because of his own brilliance and intellect and was universally acknowledged. He formed a political party when he was outside the so called orbit and put Pakistan on the map of the world. It is crass injustice and a historical wrong to name Mr. Bhutto along with Nawaz and Imran.
I think NFP pretty much said the same thing as you, "wo orbit sey buhut pehle nikal aye they".
Bhutto was disgusting and greedy individual who caused the death of hundreds of thousands he deserved what he got.
Interview was amazing but how did he gave a clean chit to PPP that is also amazing.
Every minute was worth it. Every sentence was excellent. Looking forward to the next one
OMG. Thank you so much Shehzad for bringing NFP here. We all really wanted this!!!!
i never thought i would watch the whole podcast ,it was very informative
Intellectual jiyala, starting with I am a mix of Sindhi and Punjabi, giving himself a clearance to be pro Sindhi, pro feudal, pro ppp, anti-establishment and obviously IK bashing is now every intellectuals basic ingredient. Trying to prove that we are all brains and masses are clueless.
you obviously did not watch any of this video before posting your comment
Imran is such a hypocrite no one needs to be intellectual to find who he is and what type of politics he is doing.
You just need a neutral brain not blinded by charisma of political leaders.
Oh! But neutral to janwar hota hai😂😂😂
Absolutely, because most of these kind of people, him, then we have people like Syed muzammil are just sitting on their ass and out of imran phobia can talk rubbish and utter absolutely nonsense. These kind of people or others might not have even botgered to stand up even to drink a glass of water in their own house. All they do these days at the moment is just get trp or subscribers by abusing Imran khan. Iam not his fan but I can see as an overseas Pakistanis that, how much these kind of people earn using Khans name.
Exactly
A typical youthia response. Instead of giving counter arguments, label your opponent as supporter of X, Y , Z. Tragedy of Qaum e youth and specially IMRANDOO CLAN.
That was way too short. I was glued to my seat listening to Paracha Saab, and I'm eternally grateful for this insightful discussion for broadening my perspective.
Wonderful job as always Shezad, and please Part 2 Zia-ul-bugaloo soon 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Pakistan identity crisis is real. People have hindu sirname like chaudhari,shah, Chauhan and they think their ancestors came from Arab or turkey😂😂
Nobody says that. They just think Turks and Arab made us muslims and as they think muslims are lucky people of God. They feel in debt
Nobody thinks that you sad troll! Get a life.
Kia hi khoobsoorat episode the qasam se.
Ab tu heerani hona bhi khatam ho gae hai k NFP jese guests ko mainstream media pe koi q nahi bulata aur unko kafi sari audience se introduce karwany ka credit bhi TPE ko hi jaata hai.
NFP is a complete package.
Thanks Shehzad for such a beautiful podcast.
When you use provocative language in the title, you essentially shut the door on any dialogue. By saying that IK supporters are part of a cult, you are reducing them to fanatic, unthinking drones. They would not want to listen to what you have to say if the title of the video itself denigrates them. This is how you polarize society.
baaji asan basha mein pein peish krien?
@@ThePakistanExperience I agree, but that can be said about supporters of pretty much any political leader in Pakistan. I take issue with you generalizing PTI supporters and putting it in the title.
Loved the podcast, so refreshing and informative. Found some great perspectives on many things.
Wow it was really amazing to hear NFP for 3 hr straight, looking forward to the 10 episode series, do not agree with his political views but definitely a fan of his historical knowledge.
I blocked this channel but still comes in my auto Playlist. Anyone know why this happens. I have other blocked on my list but never pops
Brilliant podcast! Nadeem Paracha should start his own podcast on the modern history of Pakistan. Each one of these chapters should be a one-hour podcast. And there are many more topics to discuss. I bet it will be a big hit!
This is what bias against IK does to even an intellectual like Piracha - it makes you think the aftermath from hanging bhutto in the '70s is going to be the same as hanging IK in 2022. It's a completely different world today.
lolz. Chay. Was there any reprisal for extra judicial killing of Bugti. even tho he was anti state, there was no trial nothing. This Nazi - Baboon is nothing but just another offspring of Army experiment. He should better fall in line . No one is important than state of Pakistan. Pakistan Army knows better what to do with him. !!! Btw your take on Paracha is right, ;) !!!
NFP is a PPP apologist. A metropolis like Karachi with almost 30 million population whose majority is hostile to the party governing the City and don't want to be governed by them and the government itself is proving by its own actions that it doesn't care about the city. How can you disenfranchise so many people?
As a historian it is sad to see that NFP did not track Imran Khan's political trajectory before Oct 30 2011 Jalsa in Lahore. Khan was no longer a one man party at that time and had a massive popular and political base in KPK and FATA because since 2003 he had bashed the America-Army alliance ... and put it in post 9/11 and 80s Afghan Jihad perspective , all on private media, like no other politician during the 2000s . These guys think that since Khan had no support in Karachi or rural Punjab therefore PTI was elevated by ISI Gen Gul, Pasha etc, but Khan and PTI were present on ground in KPK and Tribal areas , hence the 35 seats in 2013 elections and provincial victory in 2013. You think in 2013 people in KP would be stupid enough to vote back ANP , MMA JI, PMLN or PPP. They chose PTI for very specific ground realities and sadly this whole talk is devoid of serious understanding how people rally around a cause. NFPs past affiliation with PPP and the Left has created an inherent bias and in his world view ZAB and/or MNS had their own political identity and were not provided a platform by the Army . But in Imran Khan's case he was a nobody since 1996 and came out of now where in 2011. Nothing could be further from the truth and this podcast regurgitates the same thing over and over again.
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In full agreement with you! I appreciate the rational views of the host but he has very limited and sterrotypical views. I don’t agree with all of the ideology of Imran Khan but in view of all the other options available to Pakistani people for leadership, he seems to be the best, even with his Islamic views, which I do not agree with. But as for the host here, instead of rationally dissecting, analyzing and presenting equally all the candidates, he seems to have a biased superficial view of IK. Very disappointing. You are very much out of touch from reality if you think that all the majority siding with IK is only empty headed emotional people. You show your arrogance. I watch a lot of Indian media as well, and you are very much aligned with their hateful speeches. It is very pathetic. Try to expand your horizon. I would say the same to Muzamil Shah as well. Love his philosophizing but has a blind spot for IK which I have not heard him explain rationally.
Great conversation. A surprising observation was smoking in the studio in this day and age takes you back to old times. :-)
Imran Khan polarize krta hai lakin PMLN aur PDM k head Fazl ur Rehman sahab are beacon of democracy. PPP ki to bat hi na karen, wo dara dhamka k candidate hi bitha dete hain k kahin jeet hi na jaye.
Awesome interview Shahzad and is always a pleasure to read and listen to NFP ❤️
Allowing people to use Foul language shows your level of upbringing you spoon. Imran khan zindabaad
3 hours watched your podcast but never bored for a single second.
❤
Thank you so much for this episode. He's my favorite writer from pakistan so glad to listen to this conversation.
Thank you so much for this podcast. It was so informative for so many reasons. Thank you conducting this podcast with Paracha sb. And I would thank Paracha sb that I found you channel Mr. Shahzad.
Bauht maza aya Shehzad.
Bauht arsay se NFP ko sun'na chah raha tha.
Thank you for creating insightful podcast.
it’s alright to have an opinion but please don’t try to project that you and paracha are non partisan . Let’s call this what this podcast is that it’s a ppp sympathizers program . You complained about everything apart from ppp and it’s performance . This just made you lose a lot of credibility .
But NFP did say in this very podcast that he favors PPP. Did you even listen.
@@71espn this was directed more towards the moderator . If you claim to be a voice of reason and want to rationally examine something then this is definitely not what academics or intellectuals do . They remain non partisan and criticize what is wrong regardless of party affiliation. That’s the problem with pakistan not enough academics and it’s full of pseudos like paracha .
@@71espn IK followers are more biased than anyone else but the only bias they see is against PTI. They can NEVER comprehend independent criticism of PTI is possible, people don't need to preface PTI's criticism with anything
@@f.50 he can criticize PTI all he wants but if he is completely blind towards others than you just lose credibility . In that case you are a part of the problem not solution. I grew up reading NFP articles growing up and liked his writing but clearly he is not what he projects to be. Very unfortunate.
@@ThePakistanExperience Mustafa Kamal is a political leader and will be partisan that’s expected . But when you invite an intellectual ( self acclaimed ) and a writer then you are supposed to look at everything from dispassionate eyes . If you are evaluating the political and cultural landscape then you have to critique and appreciate all the entities . This episode glaringly was just presented as PPP propaganda . The moderator needs to challenge the narrative if the guest is doing that rather than become a party . That will make people look at the program from a completely different lense. In general I like the format of the program which I discovered recently but this was definitely a disappointment . It’s your program you can do whatever you want but if you present as if PPP has done no wrong then you will lose rational viewers . Baqee I like your sense of humor etc 🙂
Request for the host: Often times both the host and guest refer to books, it would be great if you could add those to the description. Sometimes it's not entirely clear which particular text is being referred to in the conversation.
I will never be able to thank you enough Sir Shehzad. Another brilliant episode, keep it up. Waiting for the next one.
Thanks you NFP for SMOKERS CORNER, it's been long love with DAWN.
he seemed a bit biased, or bigoted when talking abt sindhis. as a language sindhi is not helpful in any way possible in life, see any other province for example. As u said: Sindhi supremacist, that's what he sounded.
Tum log kabhi nahi sudhroge na? Itni bigotry kahan se late ho? You are free to go back to india no one is stopping you. Lol.
Nice to see Paracha after a long time. All his predictions about Imran Khan have come true. He was die hard critic of Niazis politics.
Yea Ik ruined the youth but if these corrupt politicians worked on education things would be different. Seasoned politicians my as* why they care about future of bilawal or Mariam is Pakistan there family business ? What bs are u talking
it was awesome......
i think, you guys have to start a detailed history podcast for every year before Pakistan and after Pakistan starts from 1900 till 2023
NFP sir is also a unsung hero, only found in Sunday Dawn ….
شہزاد بھائی ۔ ندیم صاحب واقعی بہت نایاب ہوتےہیں ٹی وی، یہاں تک کہ کسی بھی یوٹیوب چینل پر نہیں دیکھا۔ توآپ کے پوڈکاسٹ میں نے انکی تصوریر دیکھتے ہی بہت ایکسائٹ محسوس کیا۔ میں انکے کالمز کا عادی تھا ۔ ایک نشہ تھا کہ ہر اتوار کو میں کسی بھی حال میں انکا کالم ہرگز نہیں چھوڑسکتاتھا۔ بڑے عرصے تک میں نے انکے کالمز اپنے ایک فائل کلیکشن میں چپکائے۔ انکی ساری تحریریں وہ تھیں جن سے مجھے خاص حد تک لگاو ہے تو ہم تو چاہیں گے کہ ہر مہینے کیا ہر ھفتے انکی گفتگو سنیں چاہے کتنی بھی لمبی ہو اگر انکے پاس وقت ہو۔
Nadeem Paracha is looking some benefit from PPP from his past affiliation if PSF. I’ll intention
It's mindblowing how you guys sat there and tried to portray NS and Zardari in a positive light by saying they moved on and thought abt the country's future lmao.
Hahaahah. Have to give tat to you. I totally agree with you on that, tho I have no sympathies for Nazi - Baboon !!!. Both of them were like kissing each other buts, like two anti trump guys invited by CNN.
on account of Zardari and NS vs Nazi - Baboon , he proved to be worse, planners in GHQ are banging their heads. Over Firdous Ashiq. Rasheed. Chohan ++++ and other morons from KP. I would pick Muftah. Mussadiq. and likes of them on any given day, Thorough professionals. PS: I forgot the Tareen Gang. J & S Tareen. !!!
I may be wrong but there is some inclination towards PDM. U ignored there flaws completely and only highlighted their problems or even justified all of their actions throughout history. It seems as if they are some saints who were pushed by our army to do bad shit and PTI is the worst thing that happened to Pakistan. Bravo to u guys if thats what u think and ur knowledge of so called real history.
in 70+ years we are celebrating .... Water Pumps in Thar. WoW !!!
I really want a big channel or i pray that netflix hires u as a producer and a host… dude u r not a vlogger or a normal podcaster…. U deserve something else
Please request Nadeem Sahab to come again and discuss the topics which were left out in today's podcast 🙏
Great Nadeem Farooq Paracha. Keep up the good work.
Well I've been reading NFP articles in Dawn for the past 3 to 4 years and I have learned one thing from them. His write ups are mostly about how IK is a cult and how he is bad for the country. 90 percent of the time he discusses the cult of IK.
I don't understand what's his obsession with IK? His articles are boring as hell because they all talk about the same topic.
Here, in this podcast , he continues the same old rhetoric he uses in his write ups. IK is bad and a cult. Ok we get it. Now what? You want to repeat that sentence everywhere like a parrot?
I am sure an intellectual like NFP can find more topics to write on except IK cult madness
Bro, you're a changemaker. Keep up with the honest, intellectual discourse!
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I generally like the way you conduct your podcasts but a bit disappointed with this discussion. I hope you are able to revisit this podcast and see how it is contributing to the very polarization that you seem to be so worried about. All for fair criticism
of Imran Khan and PTI but dedicating podcast after podcast on criticism of one person is not beneficial to anyone just creating more polarization. Hopefully you can start having more healthy discussions like some of your previous podcasts that provide diverse views.
Always love to hear NFP.. very thoughtful discussion
Next level Fazul Podcast!
Shehzad Bhai Quota system par podcast krein..much needed to clear concept of Youth..who first started this quota system.
zarur banayega..we karachiite desperately need to know reality
Belonging from a Jamati background and a no problem to call myself a fundamentalist and just studied NFP to know how secular see ourselves and what is their next move I still must say yarr bnday my dum to hy.
This is the talk I recommend all jamatis/Mawdudiets to listen and all others should listen
Worth it
Pretty surprising bordering dishonesty that NFP did not mention the quota system in Sindh which has essentially removed urdu speaking people from federal and provincial bureaucracy and govt jobs. Furthermore AH was no match for IK in personality or charisma or ability to speak.
I see your point. Personally speaking I went to hear him after their 1990 elections clean sweep in Sindh urban. I heard him and I realized he is toxic character - maybe my assessment of his character also impacted my assessment of skills/charisma.
Itna jhoot? Sindh ka chief secretary muhajir hai, spsc ka chairman muhajir hai, ig sindh muhahir tha until recently, sherry rehman, shehla raza, patel, raza rabbani sab muhajir hain. Itne bigoted kyun ho ap log? India aur raw se abhi bhi paise leke karachi ko tabah kar rahe ho? Kab tak propaganda karte rahoge jhoota? Apne racism aur bigotry ko good governance ke jhoote mutalbo ke peeche kab tak chupaoge? Agar pakistan itna hi bura hai to apne ancestral land india wapis chale jao? No one is stopping you. Wahan phir modi aur bjp ke sath khush rehna. Lol
I am very much impressed by your podcast Shehzad Bhai. More than the content, your podcast is a lesson for anyone on how to conduct a debate / interview / discussion.
Thank you ❤❤❤
Please make another episode about the troubles between Sindhi and Muhajir Qaum and the slogan Sab se pehle Pakistan and the impact of General Musharraf and General Zia General Ayub and the fall of East Pakistan
Excellent conversation
He is an extreme ppp supporter ...would be good to hear his views on them instead of always bashing one individual
So true, they all are same. Lotas and mafia.
Yes all lotas shah Mehmood Qureshi fawad Choudhary many more
In My humble opinion , the very reason for this Identity crisis is one letter.... " S " . 1946 , when the words " Independent States " was changed to " Independent State " ..in the Pakistan Resolution
You refreshed my political science theories and wisdom
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One thing i disagree with that NFP didn’t talk about dynastic politics and the elite capture .
You never acknowledge that Imran Khan is unique - a Pathan born in Lahore - admired and followed across Pakistan and globally for his myriad talents
No way😳😳is that trueee😳😳😳
One of the best podcasts , beautiful discussion
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At national level, we in Pakistan have no organized and updated national ARCHIVES on movies, dramas, songs, singers, personalities, life in general etc etc.
Mr jinnah was nothing more than a cunning Gujarati lawyer.
Stfu. Imran khan is the only leader who is a true advocate of supremacy of law. You dont have the right of calling khans following cult. A true leader always have a passionate following his followers arr mostly educated middle class. Go through history.
This podcast is pure gem!
All 743 comments in favor and no disagreement tells more about whatever is happening here
Paracha Sahab says to edit it or people will get bored. I literally had to pause it multiple times to ponder some of the things being said.
A very good podcast with NFP. It was an extremely eye opening video for me and allowed to me to look at the problems from all sides before handing out a verdict. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the wonderful analysis.
Damn good...loved it...didnt feel like skipping the video and listen the end. It was very intresting. ..Lots of love from 🇮🇳👌...🇮🇳💙🇵🇰
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Was it ethically justified to “اب بڑی دھوم سے اردو کا جنازہ نکلے”۔؟ And living in Sindh what was wrong with teaching Sindhi language in school? And now look at Punjabis willing to give up Bhulley Shah and dozens like him. We have seen Iqbal and Faiz not using their language to use their poetic skills. I empathise with Punjabi middle class.