China’s Junk Aircraft Carrier Fears to Sail? A Big Joke Due to Copycat Failure
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- After a lengthy wait of over 500 days, China's highly publicized naval behemoth, the Fujian (003) aircraft carrier, still hasn't set out on its sea trials. Key dates that were once predicted as significant milestones, including Army Day and National Day, have come and gone without the carrier's debut. Furthermore, details about the launch date of China's subsequent endeavor, the "004" aircraft carrier, remain shrouded in uncertainty.
The electromagnetic catapult technology used by the Fujian carrier is entirely different from its American counterpart, making any form of imitation impossible. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has limited capacity for technological innovation. Turning concepts into reality on its own is akin to gambling. The 004 aircraft carriers need to match electromagnetic ejection technology with nuclear power plants, which is also an uncharted territory the CCP lacks experience in.
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Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.
Silent innovation and improvement is the most fearsome weapon of the USA same thing I have observed with the Israel.
You know that this trait doesn't seem to be with you.
Sun Tzu, ironically was Chinese.
@@winston6369 I’m loving that term - “Mao hangover China”, will have to remember that one.
thank you. i needed this to stop commenting about something. lol.
Retired American scientists and former highly trained fighter pilots selling their country out needs to be addressed.
so if your country doesn't help, other can
It’s the Trump-era ethos: Anything for a fat paycheck.
@andrewcrowder4958 It's not just American pilots. It's across the western allies. BTW Trump had nothing to do with it. How dumb
@@andrewcrowder4958 is that you, Hunter? Maybe you and your dad can donate back a few % of the millions you have gotten from the CCP.
@@andrewcrowder4958trump derangement syndrome
The Chinese's tolerance for corruption has come to bite them. Corruption doesn't just take the form of bribery, but also favoritism in hiring and promotions when the position has great prestige or high pay. With favoritism in hiring comes the hiring of incompetent people, and with the hiring of incompetent people comes shoddy engineering work.
Well put
it's called *Tofu Dross* construction china is masters of cutting corners and putting out garbage products in business they have a saying: *If you can cheat; then Cheat* which explains the three million home "Ghost city's" that are nothing but incomplete shells no windows, doors or outside walls in most cases and the cheap construction material they just disintegrate in the weather.
they steal al the IP of tech they don't understand and try to cobble it together not understanding how any of it is supposed to work not to mention merging different systems tends to require a certain level or 'Finessing' no wonder it all fails! their latest warship caught fire shortly after leaving the shipyard china tried to pass it off as a "Smoke screen test" but smoke screens tend to hang low to he water, not form columns of smoke all over the ship racing for the stratosphere!
Speaking of favoritism in hiring, how about diversity hiring in the USA? 🤣🤣🤣
Why would you hire a capable engineer or manager when you could hire your doofus brother-in-law who would give you half of his salary?
@@KevinSchwinkendorf Statistically speaking, people who think they deserve their jobs are not afraid of diversity hiring practices. People who only got their job because their dad owns the company are afraid of diversity hiring rules, which is why those rules exist.
China is a classic example of growth outpacing ability
It's because they copy the end result without understanding the why.
China is a great example of why Communism doesn't work and why it is also the most corrupt form of government
One thing the video didn't mention was that maintaining an aircraft carrier is super expensive. With China being nickeled and dimed by all its poor economic choices, beyond the investment cost, the price of upkeep and the many repairs has to be like a black hole in Chinese finances. China chose to run carriers because of the prestige associated with them, but I think that was a poor choice. Now they are stuck with these expensive floating rubbish bins that they can't dismantle without losing face, and can't refit because of the cost, leaving them in this limbo of having nonfunctional carriers. This is probably the worst position they could have fallen into.
I think the CCP has funds, but what's the point in fixing a ship that's completely obsolete vs the US? The cash is better saved for the coming apocalypse of the CCP. Leave the area and denounce the CCP for your own survival
Tofu construction strikes again.
It's another CCP fall flat on their face move.
@@pa_2600 yup. See USS Oriskany 😂
@@dalama6111 The only reason U.S. ships dock after 3-6 months, is more to restock food and such. The nuclear power plants on them are good for 25 years at a time.
Military doctrine and training manuals are written in blood. The U.S. is the leading carrier navy in the world, but that didn't just happen because we built a couple aircraft carriers. Every battle, every carrier lost refined our tactics and enabled us to become more and more effective and efficient. The sailors that died on the Lexington, Wasp, Yorktown, Hornet and others led to the victories later in the war. The tens of thousands of strike missions in Korea, Vietnam, and the Gulf, the hundreds of thousands of takeoffs and landings, the decades of experience have led to institutional knowledge that allow the U.S. Navy to be the leading world power. That doesn't mean we're invulnerable. Close in to shore, under and umbrella of hundreds of ASMs, hypersonic missiles, and land based airpower, there is a survivability problem, but on the open ocean, the Chinese Navy wouldn't last past the first exchange and nothing they do can change that quickly.
"No substitute for experience"
Skilled labor isn't cheap.
Cheap labor isn't skilled.
Enemies in war are actually a lesser threat than operational mishaps for a carrier with air wing and screening elements. The older steam catapults have their hazards but at least they're well known. Electric cats still have considerable potential unknowns for the US and they're the only navy with any operational experience so China with their attitude toward safety will injure or kill many and probably destroy a lot of equipment before they have good operating doctrine.
The Chinese planned to overcome their lack of experience by cutting corners using espionage. But stealing top secret information & blueprints without understanding the basics presented a whole slew of issues.
It's like copying the answer from the kid beside you in a math test. You have the correct answer but when the teacher asked you to show your work, to explain how you ended up with the answer, all you can do is shrug your shoulders & smile.
Usa lost to afghans
China couldn't raid the fridge right now, let alone take on America. Its economy, infrastructure, housing market, and international support is crumbling.
About 20 minuets after the war starts China will no longer need to worry about the financial burden of supporting an operational carrier.
>minuets
The USA is borrowing money from China.
They can't make a mag catapult because they can't get their hands on one to copy it...
Yawn. Keep believing in that. Im sure they copied a lot but in recent years they have produced more reference thesis article (per Nature journal) than US and Europe. While you can keep being complacent, i would probably be asking why we are spending time dealing with wokeness and not more in R&D.
why need to copy something doesn't work?
@@tsugumorihoney2288 Mag catapults have been in operation on US carriers ever since the 1950s so they do work. China is just to lazy to actually design and build their own which is why they always depend on stole information or traitors giving them information that may or may not be complete
Exactly!
china needs to stick with building things they are good at like key chains, plastic bottles and dildo's
I served on the Carl Vinson CVN-70 for 3 West PACs. With intercept fighters (alert 5) able to launch within 5mins, any ship not able to match that kind of response is indeed a sitting duck.
Soviet strategy was material readiness: have lots of stuff.
US strategy is to have lots of practice with your stuff.
Chinese strategy seems to be: make shit that looks scary, i.e. they go from no catapults, skip steam catapults COMPLETELY, and try to serial produce electro mag catapults to what? PRETEND to match the USN?
I am sorry to say this, but one cannot believe ANYTHING the CCP says. Everything is SHOW to PRETEND they have reputation. That's EARNED, not demanded.
If Xi is having second thoughts about invading Taiwan... that's a good thing 🎉
You just summed it up perfectly: cannot believe ANYTHING the CCP says. Everything is SHOW to PRETEND
I think in current tech world its fine if country wants to skip the steam catobar, I think even India will directly go to EMALS from Stobar.
Problem with Chinese carrier is the limitations coming with conventional power generation tech .
The Chinese concept is "if we only use new tech, we're on the same page as everyone else, if we grow naturally we'll always be behind." That's why they love blue sky stuff like EALM and AI.
Nothing to be sorry about you stated the truth. 👍
Good Analysis !!
China is realizing theft of intellectual property only gets you so far😂
Now China create a new electric launching system completely different from USA and they success.
China world largest bullet train network running at 350kmph, soon 400kmph sure got it so far that US and India are deadly jealous. Also, BYD EVs causing both Americans, Indians, Japs all wet their pants
I love hearing about Chinese investors buying up American land, like anyone is going to care when problems arise
Well take em all back with the redneck army bud light gusling shotgun firing ford pu driving ppl of the south lol gooo rnevks lol
It'll be frozen/seized during a war anyway
A nuclear powered anything, considering chinese construction qualities, is terrifying.
Couldn't agree more.. they already are the #1 most polluting country in the world 🌎.. image nuclear reactor meltdowns in the high seas with ships that can't even keep water out. Yes, that is terrifying
Garbage in, garbage out. CCP is a true superpower in this regard.
sadly there is a lot of misunderstanding about how nuclear reactors function. most of the time they function very differently than how a nuclear bomb does, and its impossible for them to detonate. sometimes this isn't the case, such as Chernobyl, but there isn't any reason to use a potentially explosive version on any military vessel. the absolute worst that could happen is that the cooling system entirely fails and the radioactive material gradually melts its way out of the ship before sinking into the ocean. this would be a minor to moderate ecological disaster for the local area, though thankfully one that could probably be fairly easily cleaned up because it is a solid material not a liquid like oil, so you'd just need to retrieve the material afterwards.
i won't say that it's completely impossible for a situation to arise where a nuclear powered vessel has a nuclear reaction, but it would be an extremely rare occurrence. it would also be most likely to happen with a nations 'first time' nuclear powered vessel due t them not having extensive safety procedures and designs due to lack of experience, as opposed to highly skilled and experienced designs and operators like the US Navy
@@delphy2478 I believe the original poster was referring to Chinese nuclear reactors. There have been studies that indicate that the Chinese nuclear submarines have reactors that are not shielded properly and are slowly killing the crewmembers. China (and USSR) have a history of "playing" with nuclear devices in a very unsafe manner. USSR used nukes to blow holes in mountains for roads, and the CCP intentially irradiated whole fields of crops to see if they would grow better, just to name two!
@@delphy2478 Its not an explosion...its the massive ongoing leak of radioactive material into the environment that I'm worried about. Thank you for your input!
Reason is because they built their carriers modeled after a "Russian" Aircraft Carrier which never worked property to begin with. The Admiral Kuznetsov operational history is a nightmare filled with dead sailors and accidents, spending most of it's time in repairs, and rarely ever has it been operational. It's unfinished sister ship was sold to China, and this sister Ship is what China copied to build it's own carriers. Basically they chose a BROKEN aircraft carrier design to copy.
and they are so proud to have made it NOT be a copy of the US designs. it's like china was taking a test, and decided to copy of the school delinquent instead o the class president who gets straight A's, and then tries to act proud of it lmao
When copying shit bites you in the ass. What an awesome sight. Hehe
@@bladimir07 That is a Blatant lie.
USSR only built 1 Aircraft Carrier before it collapsed. The 2nd was left in Ukraine unfinished, which was later sold to China.
I'm assuming you're speaking of the Kiev Class, which is more of a Aviation Cruiser. A Missile Cruiser with a flat deck that is limited to VTOL aircraft. It may look like an Aircraft Carrier and sometimes gets called one, but it absolutely pales in comparison to a proper aircraft carrier.
No guy, better review your sources
@@Alte.Kameraden Actually there are no Soviet (or russian) aircraft carriers, they are classified Aircraft cruiser or heavy aircraft cruiser, this is because there is a treaty that does not allow aircraft carriers in the black sea. So they designate these cruisers instead.
Aircraft carriers are the most complex things humans have ever built. They combine airports, cities, jet and ship maintenance facilities, a city of 5k people and all of the facilities associated with that, and American ones are nuclear power stations. Not to mention that the steel needed to build the flight deck is incredibly hard to produce and if you mess it up the whole ship is compromise. . Also, I thought the Fujian was a diesel vessel, not nuclear.
I don't know, maybe a wooden sailing ship such as the HMS Victory, 4-masted, 100-gun, completely man-powered is right up there as the most complicated machine man has invented (and operated)? You're right, though, the US has now made such a well-run machine look easy. Hats off to the US and Britain.
@@henryfurlott2222 Hard disagree. While a golden age of sail ship of the line is complex, all of its individual mechanisms are quite simple. It's just a lot of them in one place that work together in harmony. Its thereoticaly possible for one human to understand everything on any golden age of sail vessel enough to build one. Any modern ship is far more complicated. No single human could know enough to make one.
@@MeepChangelingYou are crossly underestimating the technology of historical naval engineering and construction methods.
French Charles de Gaulle is nuclear powered too and so will be its replacement which is an ongoing project.
It is a very difficult task that requires many, many brains, all the schools and trainings behind every different disciplines...and it is built to withstand the most difficult environment, the sea.
it is diesel ..... don't listen to western documentarys about chinese or russian tech ..... they speculate a LOT ...... i never seen a chinese or russian documentary about US tech. or weapons ..... but every single american youtuber is an expert in chinese and russian weapons .... liberals ,go figure them and there 89 difrent non binary pedo alphabet rainbow genders .-.
In the oilfield we were not allowed to use Chinese shackles and hooks. They simply have sub standard smelting and tensile strength. They literally crack in half.
what is actually substandard is the typical American brain
Ya no more buying anything in China lol tofu everything lol
@@markrivera8587 Tofu is just soy beans. We grow that here. I was speaking merely of a quality control issue, not a xenophobic one.
People underestimate what it takes to build a carrier force. It's more than just building a carrier, though that is certainly part of it. It's building all of the personnel, systems, support and logistics, training of crews, etc. At this stage, I think what we are really seeing here is China confronting all of those challenges that the US makes look so easy...after nearly a century of carrier service. You also need to toss in the CCP, the massive corruption that implies, their tendency to divorce everything from reality, their lack of actual military experience and training for their core officers and key personnel, and...well, just saying the CCP was in charge is enough really. Screwups screwing up, to put it more gently than the traditional way to say that.
Yeah for sure! The purges don’t help either I’m sure.. everyone who might’ve had even a little actual military expertise, has been purged at this point for potentially being not loyal enough to Xi.. China is a disaster lol
Carrier needs many other ships to support it. Carrier alone is simply a juicy target so as a crude example it needs: a submarine, couple anti-submarine ships, anti-air destroyers, frigate, supply ship (at least one)... Number and mix of ships vary but the point is /a carrier group/ is so much more then just one carrier! Overall it needs thousands of men, insane amount of fuel per day, constant maintenance, etc.
On that last point, after nation becomes "dependent" on a carrier group to project power outwards, taking the group home for lengthy months long maintenance will leave a void that their enemy can exploit. Therefore relying only on one carrier is not good but if there is no money for two, it becomes a major weakpoint that enemy will absolutely exploit.
Also, having just one carrier could make the one carrier too expensive to risk on crucial missions as one carrier at home is more valuable then one sunken carrier at the bottom of the sea.
In the end, it's all fun and games to own a carrier but it has way too many downsides if not done properly. At worst, it an endless money pit, offers no new technological advancement, makes the country look like a fool and will never actually be put into service.
I'm just a plain civilian, but from my experience in Beijing some ten to fifteen years ago, I dare say maintenance is not something that the CCP is good at.
hahahaah Asia in a nutshell :D:D:D:D:D
You make excellent points. The US Navy didn't start off building super carriers. It converted an existing collier (USS Jupiter) into an improvised carrier (USS Langley) by building a flattop on its hull and launching biplanes from it. It took a couple of decades of trial and error to produce the US carrier task forces that defeated the Imperial Japanese Navy during WW2.
It should be noted that China's reason for wanting a carrier is literally just for status symbol and being insecure. If I recall correctly, back then, a Chinese high official basically told Xi that "all great powers have carriers, so we should too". The problem is, they literally have ZERO experience in operating a carrier, let alone having actual doctrine for it. Their main expected adversary, the United States Navy, has nearly a hundred years experience in carrier aviation when the Chinese bought Liaoning, something that can't easily be matched overnight, especially when they're pissing off everyone around them down the line
They do have the world's smallest average penis length...😂😂😂
No they have a legitimate strategic reason. A CV component extends air coverage. That helps with their goal, to dominate waters up to the first island chain.
Mind you, this is a costly strategy. But it legitimate.
You dance around an important fact: NOBODY has "experience" in operating a carrier...until they do! lol. To say that it's tough, and that alone means a nation shouldn't do it, well, has the stopped France? Or India? Or Australia? Or Brazil? Or Italy? Or Spain? Or Turkey? Or...
@@junkscience6397most of those countries have small carriers. More akin to the US amphibious assault ships. Starting out with nuclear super carriers is not the smartest choice. It's not just a ship, its a mobile military base, command and control hub, maintenance hub and airstrip in one. Making this complex conglomerate of processes and functions run smoothly is a huge feat.
@@johnashtone7167maybe in the USA. In China it's all about how much you can siphon out of the budget and not get caught.
I was onboard the USS Ranger in the late '80s, we had three mess decks multiple convenience stores, small shops, our own T.V. and radio stations, full-use gym, all CVAs are floating cities. They have many amenities for the sailors. The Russin ships have actual bars were you can buy drinks.
The new UK carriers have an onboard pub, much to the delight of the US personnel who serve on them 😀
Me too 77-80 . P2 , Cat Steam.
@@henrycarlson7514 Happen to know James (Jim) Staudacher? he did cat steam on the ranger...
The Soviet Typhoon class submarines had a sauna and small swimming pool onboard.
Most Russian crewmen are alcoholics. The ship couldn't function without a constant supply of alcohol.
Having a carrier that doesn't dare leave port is worse than not having one. At least there's no operational expense for a carrier you don't have.
China has no deep-water NAVY combat experience. Threatening the South China Sea with boats built on kickbacks doesn't count. Meanwhile, the U.S. and its allies retain nearly 100 years of carrier-based naval combat experience, developing the super-carrier and its fleet, which it has used in live war. China has another 100 years to catch up, which it cannot do without innovation.
If the war does not involve the control of deep-water seas, then doctrines based on deep-water experience will be of less use.
Perhaps China does not plan to carry hostilities short of outright war into deep-water, for example. You know, they might be planning on brown water operations where deep-water units like submarines are at a disadvantage and where land-based aviation will supplement carrier operations (can you say Battle of Midway).
China doesn't have another 100 years to catch up, it has another 10-20yrs left before it collapses back into 4-5 separate nation states like it has always been for the vast majority of its 3,000yr old history. Sorry Xi.
@@rbaxter286 China's goal is to project power around the globe. So it needs a deep water navy to do that. Carriers have been at the center of naval power since WW2, But that may be changing.
If China pushes too far, it will soon experience it's ships at the bottom of oley of deep water
@@rbaxter286ain't the problem here is that they have little to none experience in Arial, naval or land based combat? All they have is human wave tactics and nukes
Unmentioned is the other fact of the miserably short range of the Chinese diesel-powered carriers. Any operation requires they be shadowed by a refueling ship, basically a floating bomb for enemy munitions.
plus, taking out the tanker is vastly easier than the carrier, and doing so then later going after the carrier would be a really effective strategy with minimal risk
@@delphy2478
Ya, that would suck running out of fuel and just sitting there in the ocean as an easy target. Can’t even move out of the way for a torpedo.
Chinese aircraft carriers have the sailing range of a potato chip.
Perhaps you American should realise the odious CCP is protecting its shores not someone else's like the warmongers AKA Americans.
Now imagine the Chinese conducting a freedom of navigation of the coast of California?
Oh sugar, no! That's rank hypocrisy, yah?
But that is what China wants, a strong navy to operate in nearby waters. Their strategy is not to mount a second Pearl Harbor.
If it's anything like its electric cars, it's safer to stay in dry dock.
Another thing to consider is operations. The West has almost a century of institutional knowledge in carrier operations. France (22 years) and the US have nearly half a century of nuclear powered carrier operations. That is a tremendous advantage that cannot easily be matched.
The thing about stealing technology and hardware is that you don't get all the experience from R&D, just the end product with no context.
Very true. But also much much cheaper to develop. Yes, as you point out, unless you go through the R&D you won't get to the next innovation, leaving you at the mercy of the next theft operation.
Exactly and even worse the copied the Soviet Designs...)
They can't even steal very well. They end up making almost duplicates of lower quality and don't hide that fact. It is kind of laughable.
When it was stated that the best hulled ship was built in Ukraine, said just about all you need to say. But the convenience store was certainly shocking.
@@akbeal Think its some sorta ego problem, they want to say 'oh we did the same thing and did it better than X' or even "this was our great idea and X copy us because we are so smart' but even then it always seems to be more about showing their own people that to keep up the lie that everything is ok and we are strong.
The difference. The U.S. doesn't buy their stuff on Wish or Amazon.
@@scottsmith7051Same thing, garbage is garbage.
@@jarack3256everything is made in china ive seen soo many Western brands buy aliexepress stuff and rebrand it and then up market the price now thats even more disgusting
The United States has been building and operating carriers for over hundred years. You just can't build one from stolen plans and expect it to work properly.
China having unable to sail their carriers because of problems with Chinese steel is the most hilarious thing I've heard. We've been telling them about problems with their steel for decades and they've been denying it.
If you have to build a protective shed over your catapult launch system to mitigate potential rain damage, then you truly have built little more than a toaster over whose usage can’t be counted on in a pinch. Given this, and 0 trials, as well as China’s navy being classified as a brown water navy only, I would say that any blue water navy could easily sink China’s navy in a conflict. As with all Chinese products, ‘Made In China’ brings with it some well-documented lackings when it comes to operational resilence and functional talking points. It’s my guess that in 10 yrs, their navy will be covered in rust, as their economy is about to crash harder than any economy, or naval ship, in history.
Especially when you plan to be in the middle of the ocean with this funny boat.
It's entirely possible that if they attempt to make this a blue water boat, it'll become the world's largest submarine. Once.
@@alphaomega5721 When that happens we'll have to revise world map and call that spot "Fujian Shoal" 😆
What exactly is your background in the subject?
It turns out that the sheds were not water resistant either 🤣
It’s not very easy to fake an aircraft carrier.
The CCP can save billions of $$ needed for safety by using garden water hoses , limiting medicine to a RUclips doctor video , anchors made of wood w/ rope , installing air bags in case of being rammed , springs under the fight deck to bounce planes off instead of crashing there and a backup propulsion aquarium bubbler
But if it can be done it'll be the Chinese...😉
They sure have learned how to keep cardboard stiff while at sea for several months
Will breakdown like fake watches …
It's junk
I’m not sure why a random picture of the British aircraft carrier was inserted into this video.
If it sinks, they will tell you it is a submarine aircraft carrier.😂
If they sunk your carrier, they will humbly say that it is only by luck.
If it is sunk china will say it was designed to make the sea shallow 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If it does not sink, we can say you are lunatic.
How is there such a gap between US made Aircraft Carriers and Chinese built Aircraft Carriers? The United States has been operating and perfecting Aircraft Carrier operations for almost 110 YEARS!
China learned to build aircraft carriers from Russian Engineers. Russia only built aircraft carriers for less than 20 years. They actually did not know what they were doing while they were building those carriers.
It's probably cause China is trying to copy one of the most technologically advanced carrier in the U.S. Which by default is a failure. We have this carrier till this day not ready for operation. This thing never works and has huge design flaws. They've been trying to get this thing working for over 7 years now.
The PLA's first "aircraft carrier" was built on top of a floating Russian casino. The 2nd one is a copy of the first. The 3rd one is more Indigenous designed, so it's completely worthless.
China also learned how to build aircraft by stealing F22 and 35 engineering documents. They did the same kind of thing to Russia.
Many of the products coming out of there are either good or bad copies or iterated on top of something copied. It's ridiculous the kind of culture that propagates there.
and lets be real, russia wouldn't have told china everything, they'd have tried to keep some secrets tot hemselves, so they got the 'neutered' version of what the russians had figured out
There is utterly no replacement for experience.
The US and UK spent decades learning how to operate carriers safely and efficiently, and keep them provisioned at sea for long deployments.
Nobody else has that capability.
Just one thing though all naval ships have a convenience store inside of them, it helps with maintaining morale and providing the daily necessities of its crew.
Every single United States carrier has been designed with one since the Lexington before World War II.
So China''s Navy is struggling to be a real military force and has just Three Aircraft Carriers? And wants to build a powerful Aircraft Carrier based Navy in just 10-15 years? The USA has built MORE than 60-70 carriers in more than 100 YEARS!!!! American Naval Experience and High Construction Quality of the ships are beyond any other nation, and by far. And although China's could be the largest Navy in the World in terms of Tonnage or ships, their ships' quality is mediocre to bad to say the least, and the personnel is inexperienced compared to the rest of the world. And ANY of the US' 13-15 actual carrier Strike Forces can give a full beating to ANY NATION ANYWHERE AROUND the World!!! China/CCP/Xi Jing-ping need to care more about their own country internal affairs, facing an Economic and Social downfall thanks to the stupid policies of the CCP during the Pandemic when they not only lied, but also CLOSED ENTIRE CITIES in their so-called Quarantine Policy!!!! China, like Russia, can not be trusted in their policies coz they are way worse than America's or the West's, and are another Paper Tiger like "the Second Best Armed Forces" of Russia.
And the world keep on saying that the Chinese has the biggest navy in the world.
The Chinese have quantity....not quality.
The zerg rush approach
Quantity can also be an effective strategy, you can compensate lower tech with more vessels
I suspect if you'd count all the boats in marinas in the US we'd have an even bigger Navy than China in numbers. But bass boats don't strike much fear in the enemy's heart.
@@YourHineyness unless a bass boat somehow sinks China's new carrier.
Thank you, thank you! Some months ago, I caught some flack for criticizing a well known retired F14 aviators claims that the US had much to be concerned about when China launches their newest "super" carrier. Among my criticism was the fact that the US and UK have been building/testing/improving carriers for 100 years as compared to China's few years. Also, by the time the airwing joins up with the carrier, we were training, testing, improving for weeks into months. China does not have the training infrastructure and senior experience to train to any level of competence. The methods and procedures for loading supplies and ammunition ie 1000 + pound bombs etc have been developed since WW2. mishandling food stores makes people sick while mishandling weapons kills people and sinks ships. I am just guessing, but I suspect China does not send all ships company personnel to fire fighting training.
Several knowledgeable former/retired navy engineers have evaluated China's ability to build an electromagnetic launch system and conclude the power plant does not have the capacity to both power the propulsion system and launch planes simultaneously. Possibly, they could build up enough forward speed and then shift the output to charge the aircraft launch system. At best, all electric power requirements (lighting, air conditioning, radar(?)) would be cut while charging the launch system. Sounds like a real cluster foxtrot. Their launch/recovery rate (sorties) would be laughable. There is a reason Ford has the reactor output that was designed in from the get-go.
........ and with China's current lackluster state with its aircraft carriers, we get to enjoy some semblance of world peace. Just imagine what could happen if they can actually TALK THE TALK AND WALK THE WALK. Maybe someone up high really is watching over us all.
Because people love to feed others with fear. Any reasonable person who avidly follow military tech here and there will know China is a paper tiger. Their J-20 was detected by cold war Indian radar. The J-17 is a modern jet to rival an old F-16 that no one wants besides Pakistan. The J-15 that can't take off with full fuel and armaments. The propaganda military video by using stolen movie footage was hilarious. Our military is going down the toilet with DEI, it's a good thing those aren't the grunts at the frontlines, but the crying one child policy soldiers crying on the bus, that's even worse.
That sort of ridicule wouldn't have happened to occur on Mr Carrolls channel would it😂
China lacks any institutional knowledge of carrier operations, and zero experience in wartime carrier ops. They have countless lessons to learn the hard way. How many tens of thousands of naval and marine pilots have conducted how many millions of cycles? We’ve forgotten more about carrier ops (including support at all levels of logistics and planning) than they can ever realistically learn.
@@CorePathway wait until the PLA launches their brand new, AI 5G Hypersonic Super Duper Chabuduo aircraft carrier named the "Sum Ting Wong." Built from 100% Chinesium alloy. It's so stealthy it only exists in dreams... 🤕🤕🤕
The waste of money of these ineffective (badly made) money pits has my vote.
Electromagnetic catapult requires a lot of energy! That’s why nuclear powered aircraft carriers are the ones that can pull it off!
It's almost always unbelievable to hear how China fails at its most important projects. It seems like a bad movie. Imagine all that wealth was put to productive use and supporting the Chinese people, instead. I'm really sorry for the commoners in China who had high hopes and instead saw their country getting polluted and picked apart by politicians serving in an antequated and inefficient political party system. China has finished itself without anyone interfering. Meanwhile Taiwan is doing pretty great...
what's laughable is how many media's portray China as a superpower which is far from the truth.
China’s citizens have been getting the shit-end of a pointy stick for far too long.
You're joking right? Have you actually looked at how much the US spends on it's military each year and how much of its people are living on the streets? You literally sprouted words from your mouth without knowing anything as fact.
@@johnwayne8475 people on the streets are drug addicts or mental cases. They has nothing to do with money we spend on the military
@@johnwayne8475nice whataboutism zhang 😂
The CCP's Tofu building programme continues surpassing all expectations for the country.
And needless to say, tofu isn`t waterproof so shouldn`t be used to build ships either.
I wonder also China Hybrid company are making Tofu Electric Vehicles to export.
Just because you can steal it doesn't mean you can build it.
Put some paddles on it! They have the people to get it going! It would be a Chinese Viking craft 🤔
The issue is that they thought that an EM launcher was simple, not accounting for the years of EM propulsion development made by the US with the BAE Railgun and the older SDI back in the Cold War.
Not to mention steam before that.
Well the student's graduate thesis said it was simple!
No matter Chinese or Russian they leave a plume of smoke when operating making it possible to identify beyond the horizon and an easy target!
Maybe China needs a "Made in America" Carrier
I’m not a naval analyst by any stretch, but if the PLA navy’s use of substandard materials(which is hilarious) is mirrored by their landward construction of tall buildings, with their stuffing empty glass bottles among the foundation rebar in lieu of proper compression rated concrete to save money, it is beyond a joke.
As this video points out, ccp cannot innovate, only copy.
Kinda funny considering China dominates the shipbuilding market by a margin with japan and s.korea behind yet US is nowhere to be found.
But you're right, you're not a naval analyst 😂
Jesus christ that sounds like an admiral kuznetsov v.2 coming
Look what Chinese steel did to Italian car manufacturer Lancia..
Here in the UK, to save turning all the remaining rock into sand, crushed recycled glass is mixed with asphalt for road resurfacing. It actually works quite well.
@@accountantthe3394 quantity is not quality.
The carrier isn't even a sitting duck, its essential a casket floating in the water vs the US Navy.
Yeah, the 3 sheds really looks like 3 long coffins espcially with the red banner on it
Leaked reports stated that the Fujian aircraft carrier's electrical power is insufficient for its state of the art, sci-fi level, high tech catapults. It appears that the chinese plan to build a full size coal powered electric plant in another new ship that will always be tethered to the the Fujian aircraft carrier to provide sufficient electrical power.
At least the multi color smoke and fireworks were nice. 😁
China has three USS Arizonas in the making, each with five 'zonas worth of crew on board.
Imagine those memorials.
@@majormanfredrex CCP making a Memorial for their dead knowing their ships are inferior.... no... they would scuttle the ships and pretend that they never existed and kill all people that knew the truth.
The Chinese won't memorialize a bunch of dead peasants.@@majormanfredrex
Sail or No Sail, It is none of your business!
The main problem with the new Chinese carrier is that a conventional powered carrier does not have sufficient or excess power to support and electromagnetic launch system. Ford carriers are nuclear powered and have the excess power to support an electromagnetic launch system.
Just like that 5G hydrogen tractor they showed
That's hilarious 😂👍
To be fair, US Aircraft Carriers have at least 2 or 3 "convenience" stores on them. I served aboard the Theodore Roosevelt between '87 and '91 we had one relatively large store, roughly the size of an average 7/11 and 2 smaller stores about the size of an airport or mall kiosk.
Additionally the IJN Shinano while a massive carrier for its time was converted from the hull of a Yamato Class Battleship which is where she got most of her mass from. She also never saw any real combat action (other than being sunk by a submarine) and never had a combat air group embarked.
Removing Granit ASMs was actually a good idea. Only reason they were installed in a first place was to designate the vessel "heavy aircraft CRUISER" and thus being able to cross Bosphorus strait (closed for aircraft carriers)
I was aboard TR from '84 (when it was under construction) to '88 (first NATO cruise). I remember standing in line for the 'big' store on the regular.
Before building convenience stores, everything else likely functioned properly on those US carriers. In contrast, the Chinese carriers prioritized the convenience store. Maybe they'll fix the problem later, maybe not. At least they can buy snacks.
Yeah, but those are there to provide a sense of familiarity with norm for the people deployed on board. They're the tips of icebergs lurking under water. For China, that convenience store was a pathetic attempt to mimic that, likely only stocked when eyes were on it.
@@mazatlan79P The Russians originally installed those on that carrier line because the Russians don't have a robust support fleet for their carriers. Their carrier has to pull its weight across multiple roles for a single ship. One U.S. carrier strike group was bigger than the entire Soviet/Russian surface fleet. They knew that most of their ships that they claimed they had weren't seaworthy or never truly outfitted. Their carriers would have fewer combat ships supporting it so the carrier itself would have to perform some offensive duties outside of their attached aircraft. When your fleet consists of a few destroyers and a couple of cruisers versus an enemy of 3-4 cruisers, 4-5 destroyers along with multiple carriers, frigates and other support ships all equipped with vertical launch tubes of missiles, you can't afford to waste space and go in under gunned.
Dude, the latest US carrier the Gerald R Ford is also still undergoing outfitting and sea trials even though it was launched much earlier than the Fujian. It is reportedly seeing delays due to the Navy's rejection of the electromagnetic catapault on the Gerald R Ford. Carrier outfitting takes a long time.
When it comes to China and Russia, if you don't see it, they don't have it.
You can copy anything... but when you don't properly understand what you copied, you're screwed... the developmental stage is vital to the understanding stage
The USN was fearful the Type 003 would essentially be a Chinese copy of the Kitty Hawk/Forestall Class conventionally powered, steam catapult super carrier. While smaller than Nimitz and Ford Class super carriers, they are just as capable and showed to be highly effective/economical. Which is why the USN used them until 2000's and would be ships Chinese shipyards could construct relatively easily, cheaper and quickly. With some estimates at 2 to 4 carrier ever 6 years, with goal of giving the China at least 6 carriers. The USN was convinced 4 to 6 Kitty Hawk/Forestall Class conventionally powered, steam catapult super carriers. Would give China effectively control over Western pacific. Instead the Chinese built the Fujian a conventionally powered sorta copy of Ford Class, down to electromagnetic catapults the USN is still perfecting. This told USN planner that the CCP was not serious about a carrier fleet. That the Fujian is just propaganda display and not meant to fight the USN. At most its existence is meant to intimate smaller weaker nations around China into submission. Unfortunately for them that backfired as instead, those nations ran to the US for help.
Yeah...you have no idea what your talking about. China is building at least 2 more of these. And they ate hoping to become a blue water navy to protect their trade fleet. Which is now most bringing materials and supplies from Africa. The belt and road plan is stalled so their back to their original plan of a blue water navy to protect sea lanes and push US carriers back.
That why the new type 95 destroyers, the naval base in Eritrea, oversea deployment of Chinese marines to Africa. Nothing you say is proven in reality.
Still junk made in China
The Chinese have absolutely no chance of building any past American Super carrier designs as they are above top-secret. They were never sold or transferred to foreign entities and US law requires their disposal at secure facilities.
You'll notice we didn't sell any old carriers to China as Casino/Hotels. That's the only reason they can copy Soviet designs. The Chinese couldn't design or implement a steam catapult that could fling 74,000 lbs to flight speeds neither could the USSR!
Why do you think China jumped right to electromagnetic Cats. Because when they fumble around figuring it out they can point to the West as if the West's numerous reliable steam cats don't exist.
The CCP has been struggling for years to even build a reliable, domestically made jet engine for it's fighter aircraft, something the US had already accomplished, IN 1944. But hey, they're only 80yrs behind...
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Who are these several retired American military scientists who created the blueprints and process designs for these proposed catapults? If true, they need to be hunted down and brought to trial. Or could they have been working with the CIA to created blueprints that were intentionally flawed. Thereby, causing serious problems for the PLAN !!
That's an interesting thought, and there is precedent. After WWII, Japanese organisations would look at plans for British-built boats, but decide not to buy them, yet not long after they would suddenly pop up as being Japanese made. So in other words, the Japanese were copying the plans. After this had happened a few times, with the cooperation of the UK government, when another request occurred they were fed doctored plans, where the centre of gravity was above the centre of buoyancy. They decided not to buy the boat after all, but soon after it started construction in Japan. However, as soonn as it launched it turned upside down. They didn't steal any more boat plans.
What if they intentionally fucked up these chinese designs? Would be a hilarious thing to find out
That is entirely possible. We are living in a mis-information world now
@@SlavTiger judging by how well the aircraft carrier is doing right now, that may be the case.
A similar incident happened with the Soviet Union during the Cold War. The Soviet Union was allowed to "steal" the plans for an industrial process controller. The controller had intentional defects. When the controller was used in a gas pipeline in Siberia, it caused one of the worlds largest non-nuclear explosions
This video is refreshingly accurate and remarkably clear of Chinese propaganda. Love this!
the outside looking is easy to copy like shape , angle , corner etc... but the inside structure and quality and skill is millions time harder to copy.
If China does not have an actual doctrine for using this unit, there will be real issues with proper escorts, logistics support, and deployment schedules, and that's just the ship and not the airgroup. The airgroup ALSO needs to mesh with the capabilities of the escorts for even mere self-defense, not to mention the SSN that will be trailing this thing everywhere.
The pace of US operations require almost a 2 working up to 1 deployed rotation, which merely 3 units, with obvious different capabilities in the mix, will be an issue. They will have to hope the war doesn't break out while the wrong carrier is on duty (i.e., not in pieces in the shipyard) and the wrong airwing is deployed somewhere else.
don't need doctrine for a ship you can't protect
In the West we learn from our mistakes. In China, all too often, those who make mistakes are 'removed' from their positions with their knowledge lost.
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The US Navy carriers also have stores to allow sailors to purchase goods. It’s a quality of life improvement.
Also, as far as I know, US carriers don’t carry offensive missiles, due to it taking up space and weight that could be used for fuel, aircraft ammo, etc
They literally built this shit for appearances and nothing more. Even discounting its laughable capabilities, a conventionally powered carrier isn't something China can project power with as they lack the means to protect or maintain a supply system beyond their own coasts for such a ship. Beyond that it's silly for them to build such a ship primarily for Taiwan as utilizing airfields from the mainland would be safer and more effective in such a situation. The only use I can even think of is attempting to protect the Malacca Strait, but the US Navy has been making coral reefs out of enemy ships for over a century and is damn good at it. This coral reef waiting to happen would be no exception in a conflict with the US.
None of these 3 ships would ever fight the US Navy at sea. Indeed in an actual war they will never make it out of port. I would bet my life on that one. I think China is very aware of that.
😂你想法好简单，华人思想没这样简单😂中国历史悠久战争学习悠久，是没有这么快破灭的，未来100年里，中国会更加多黑科技产品，你想到美好这是摆设品这是中国没有能力维护的航母简直可笑至极，😅我不知道你们哪里来的自信，中国是全世界第一打败苏联美国英国联合国和印度的国家之一，中国也是全世界发展军事超越俄罗斯美国欧洲日本各国，我不知道你哪里来的自信中国肯定不行，我看你评论真的很好笑。中国人可以独立，只要有航母有中文字幕，学习几个月就可以培养出来优秀的飞行员，中国五代战斗机很优秀的战斗人员，中国运输机都有很多中国人每天在练习，你简直会把我笑死。你以为中国人没有纪律的吗？你以为中国人像西方人软弱吗？你以为中国战争是靠钱来维持国家的吗？你这样想就错误了😅
中国在日本战争时期都可以吃很少食物和日本对抗，别说美国还是西方国家还是印度就算来中国人没钱也会参加战争，华人知道只有打敌人出去才是维护中华民族复兴
@@akbeal that appears to be the case or they would have attacked TW already
Always worth noting that the Japanese built the first aircraft carrier in 1922. The Hosyo was the first carrier that was not just a conversion of an already existing vessel.
@@SUPERPOWERCHINA_ OK THEN !!!!
The originals were just a catapult and crane to launch and recover sea planes for recon.
@@SUPERPOWERCHINA_Chinese navy is limited to areas around China only! Ur carriers have yet to sail far!!! Dont be decieved with CCP/Xis ambition!...
Ur economy now is in big big trouble!!! And CCP cannot solve it..
@@SUPERPOWERCHINA_ speak up our 4 supercarriers didnt hear you yelling from that hole
Why? Are you somehow asserting the project management requirements of that ship was in ANY way comparable to this project?
If they can’t steal it, they don’t have it.
The US Navy has 100+ years of naval aviation experience.
CNavy, come out and pla-aaay!
CNavy, come out and pla-aaay!
China builds things that look good but last a year, if that. No way would i ever step within 10,000 kilometers of anything that has China and nuclear in the same sentence
sure hope that applies to the new surface combatants they've launched like shit through a goose,type55 looks damn scary in pictures and massive VLS capability including hypersonic anti-ship missiles,along w/type 54 and many modern new frigates. From Russian semi-obsolete ships to the largest surface navy in 15 yrs. almost all of it new is stunning.Holding out hope all this shit actually performs like all the Chinese products filling Wal-Marts.
@@CCGNZ65no need to be scared, the US is putting it's new hypersonic missiles on the 3 zumwalts we have, they will act as stealthy ship killers, the type 055 will also be heavily out gunned and out classed by the DDG(X) ship we are developing. We also have a large tonnage advantage. The US navy is 2.5X bigger than china's navy based on tonnage
@@SelfProclaimedEmperorZumwalts? Talk about a boondoggle class of ships..... LMFAO!
@@shelbyseelbach9568 every ship has teething problems when first introduced, the zumwalts have largely fixed the problems they had
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor And delivered on none of the expectations of their design.
It's actually a benefit to China not having to rely on the Russian navy for "assistance" given the rather unremarkable history of that navy going back to the Russo-Japan war in 1905.
Going back further than that. Russia has Sinope and that is about their only W.
Yeah, that's probably for the best.
They’re not even nuclear powered? Those poor fools.
Why would our government let American military scientists help fix chinas incompetence? Honest question if anyone knows why.
Shocker, a Chinese carrier performing like it was made in China.
KInda performing like a US carrier. How long did it take Ford to become operational? And why was that? Oh issues with electro magnetic catapults, ordnance elevators, $400K per sewage unblocking.
And then their is the LCS classes, the Zumwalt class. How are those shore bombardment guns going? Never mind when the USMC is landing on that first island chain they won't have naval gunfire support, because the BBs have been retired in such a way they can reaonbly be recaled, the Zumwalt class guns that were supposed to replace the BB guns had ammo cost hundreds of thiousands per round - and didn;t work well. And the extended raange guns/ammo that were supposed deliver a 3rd class naval gunfire support capability is also having problems. Shall I go on?
And we can talk about corruption too, because most of those projects the conctractors hget paid and deliver nothing.
Tell me again how the US doesn't fuck up naval/defense procurement and how great Made in the USA is.
@@1337flite While the US had issues getting it going, China on the other hand is having a host of problems, so much so that the aircraft carrier is currently in docks with three large hangers covering the three ramps that they have. Not only are they imoperable, they cannot obtain the required parts for it thanks to sanctions so they're using off the shelf parts instead of military grade. One of the China Uncovered News channels here on YT had a nice piece the other day about the fiasco that is the Chinese Type 004 carrier. In a nuthsell, China copies everything, they do not innovate. You're talking about a nation where things literally fall apart, be it the cheapest goods you can buy to bridges and stadiums. And I havent even touched on the fiasco that is the J20.
You can´t copy maintenance or build quality. That big carrier is going to be a fine dive site some day soon.
Just like the USA carriers eh? Should of heard about the navy battle simulation US did, all results pointed to them losing 2 aircraft carriers😉
The highlight of the dive would be to find the Slurpee machine that was installed in the convenience store!
😂😅
I doubt it will be a fine dive site. I would wager in an actual war it will never make it off of her moorings.
Skilled labor isn't cheap.
Cheap labor isn't skilled.
they always lose in naval simulations, its for practice and to know their vulnerability
@@_Chad_ThunderCock
Lets be honest no other nation has built so much carriers so fast since ww2. Let that sink in.
If you're not careful, failure will bankrupt you.
It's the Southpark underpants gnomes plan for electromagnetic catapults:
Step 1) Install electromagnets
Step 2) ?
Step 3) Flying aircraft
AWACS: Don't leave port without it.
Oh? The US Ford supercarrier is still having teething problems that seem unable to go away. It's EMALS is failing at 15% of its designed MTBF and its blast shields and elevators are still not working well. The Fujian had its first sea trial and tested its propulsion and power systems, so far no problems. Awaiting EMALS and radar tests soon.
BTW, the Ford's EMALS is said to be a design problem that won't be solved until 2025. Not only the Ford problems, but the F-35 are said to have an availability of only 35%, that means it takes three F-35's to get one that can fly on a mission. Then there's the Littoral ships that are headed to the scrap heap. Now, the US navy is backing off their 12 super carrier fleet and thinking of smaller ships, like destroyers.
The UK was the first country to land on the deck of a ship 100 years ago
The US and UK have 80 years plus of operating Aircraft Carriers...you cannot gain that experience in 5 years
That ship is bad-ass. It will be able to project power around the mouth of the Yangtze river where it is dry-docked.
😂😂
It will not project power. It will consume it. Being that it's connected to shore power.
yeah, as soon as we fix the , um, ships power system...also, anyone have an extension cord that actually works?
that ship is bad.... Period
There's a saying about the Chinese military- "Unfortunately, it's built with parts from Harbor Freight."
Maybe strike the "Un-" from that, from the point of view of the rest of the world.
Congratulation china for the first aircraft carrier supermarket.. 😂😂😂
Thank You! Made In China 🇨🇳. 🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂
I have no personal experience, but from a historical perspective the US Navy has been operating carriers for more than 83 yrs. The Chinese have no experience operating during hostilities. The only purpose of these ships is to show their flag.
China-Not starting a war until we are ready= Joe- OK, well wait on ya, how can we help?
Soviet Union began playing exactly the same game with the US during the 80’s and Ronald Reagan sat the score straight breaking the big bear’s back and leading to the economic collapse of the USSR.
Not true. Economically the USSR was more than stable. Reagan's success was that during his time the West was finally able to overturn the USSR from the inside - a process started in the 60s and finished with Gorbachev - a clear Western agent. Economics played no part in it. Now the US is undergoing a similar process with no hope of recovery.
@@a.p.2703 Russian economy has never been good, their citizens lived in poverty while the money was spent on weapons to impress the world. Now those weapons are being destroyed by Ukraine using cheap drones....
The Soviet Union was not economically stable. Everyone, even their own officials will tell you that.
@@a.p.2703 not true at all. Economically the Soviet people were literally were starving. You are clueless.
@@a.p.2703 economically ussr was horrible, outdated factories were unable to compete properly with Western efficient productions, and nobody in their right mind was willing to buy what the soviets were selling, besides oil, gas and other raw resources.
And I'm supposed to believe China has a functional, state of the art stealth fighter?
"Lets build a carrier
"Uh oh we dont have the tech to do so
"Lets build it anyway
well what do you want them to do they need to learn and thats how you learn the us has had there fair share of expensive and costly blunders thats were they got there experience from
Even the US, with a century of aircraft carrier building and operation, struggles with electromagnetic catapult systems.
The China is going to try and skip steam powered catapults is absurd. China has no history with any catapults, as the old Soviet carriers do not have catapults, which is why they have the launch ramp in front.
So much goes into a catapult system, even one that has been used for 100 years, they are still complicated to use and maintain. There is a zero percent chance China will get this right in terms of operation. This means, even if the system works in testing, it will not work under stress.
The entire reason to go to electromagnetic is to increase your launch rate. China will fail in this.
I would NEVER mention anything about their mistakes if I view them as adversaries. People learn something every day, and considering that China is the biggest manpower pool in the world, they will learn FAST.
The US has 100 years and several wars worth of experience in carrier warfare and building the EXTENSIVE logistics tail that feeds them. China made a serious mistake trying to swing for the fences first time out.
what is more important is that a blue water navy is not something you can simply build up in a few decades. ships are relatively easy and fast to build, but the culture needs centuries to become part of the operation norm.
As continental powers have learned the hard way time after time.
The fact that Americans helped build a portion makes me mad
excellent informative video. One thing I would like to mention is I viewed satellite images some on you tube as well showing the carriers with large cracks/bulges dur to poor steel or steel and other metal corrosion on the flight decks. This, coupled with your video makes me they are lucky the things don't sink outright-they are at least 20 years tech wise behind the US-only way to get better is to steal tech or blueprints so we have to maintain security on that stuff.
I'm glad that the "made in china" stigma also applies to their military.
"Made in China" feels like a meme before memes became a thing
You almost made me spit-take! Bravo! 😂
They have not copied enough Western tech in order for the ship to be seaworthy.
We need highly motivated individuals who are willing to do more than just complain online. It's why I started my own local chapter of ADV.
Every freedom loving country needs people willing to form Grassroots Organizations/Movements.
1) To ensure that our politicians aren't putting the interests of the CCP above our own countries.
2) To support human rights, and preserve freedom & democracy around the world; from the CCP-PLA's undue influences and harm.
3) To elect politicians who will be on the right side of history.
4) To develop tough on China legislation.
5) To expose and weed out CCP corruption abroad.
6) To foster the fraternity of NATO Nations.
7) To stop China stealing land & resources. And take them back.
8) Require the CCP to pay reparations for the pandemic
9) ....anything else necessary
This is a conversation we should all be having with each other, friends, and neighbors.
ADV??
@@KevinB-pd3me
Allied Democracy Vanguard
It's an offshoot of the ADV podcast community. We are a bunch of hardcore fans who decided to stop complaining online, and actually do something about the CCP in our countries. I was at the recent APEC protests in SF, because I live in the Bay Area. But we have a massive one being organized for Earth Day.
CCP intended to scare the world with the roar of paper tiger 😂
A round of applause for the pronunciation of chinese words by the voice over.
An aircraft carrier of this size and not nuclear powered is a serious disadvantage. I really can't understand why they didn't fit a reactor for this. It is now nothing more than a show piece for ego reasons, no real world application.
Probably China doesn't intend to deploy out of region, so no long endurance steaming is required? How did the US operate using conventional carriers up until lately?
@@rbaxter286 US carriers have been forward deployed and operating worldwide since WW2. That's over 80 years now. China's forward deployed or even operational and functional carriers are still at 0 years.
my theory is because a nuclear powered AC doesn't need to return to homebase except every decode to a few decades for refueling, but a diesel one does need to. the captain of a nuclear chinese AC could very easily go rogue and try to take off in ti to establish themselves as some sort of warlord or pirate with an aircraft carrier at their disposal, while a diesel powered AC couldn't have the possibility of doing so.
not that this would actually work, but china (or at least XI) is super paranoid about things like this
Imagine how much diesel a carrier requires per hour to be functional.
This will severely limit their time away from the marine basi5s
@@jfverboom7973 it's a way for the CCP to make sure they keep control over their 'most powerful' military assets
This is the Kraken. It has a BIG Kraken the deck I believe.
Give them time they will steal the designs from US contractors and then they will get a copy that works.