Should Life Of Brian ‘Pregnant Man’ Joke be Scrapped? | Good Morning Britain
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- Monty Python star John Cleese is working on a stage production of the 1979 comedy film, The Life of Brian. In the film version, a character named Stan explains that he wants to be a woman called Loretta and “have babies”, before being told by Cleese’s character Reg that this was impossible. During a readthrough of the script for the planned stage show actors warned this particular joke could “offend people”, raising doubt as to its inclusion in the final production. John Cleese revealed the concerns with the script amid a growing debate about gender ideology. So should the ‘pregnant man’ joke be scrapped?
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In the words of Ricky Gervais;
“ just because you’re offended, it doesn’t mean you’re right “.
It is as honestly, as simple as that.
that's racist.
Becouse you're offended, does mean you,re wrong. what happend to Sticks and stones may break my bones
But words shall never hurt me.
Who wants to watch a sanitized, airbrushed version of Monty Python? Their irreverent and provocative humour is at the core of their essence.
Juat wait till they watch the meaning of life.
It'll sink without a trace, just like the (adjusted) rewriting of classical stories.
@@scottmeehan2422 "Is it a boy or a girl? I think it's a bit early to start assigning roles to it, don't you?"
Exactly. If your not offending someone it's not political comedy.
Not me. I stick with the film.
If your offended. Don’t go bloody watch the show! Simple as that. And if the cast are offended quit the play.
Hypocritical cast!
Good point Just don't watch No one us putting you in chains. Switch over and leave people alone who still appreciate irony and humour.😅
It's okay to bring up the subject and your concerns, but after that common sense must prevail. You're putting on a theatre play based on a Monty Python classic. You're going to have to be true to the source material.
The only person making sense on that panel was Freddy Quinn. If you fear offending people, don't do the play. If you're easily offended, don't go to a comedy show.
And that shrill harpy that can't let someone else finish a sentence (good on you Freddy for not letting her get away with it) needs to get her hypocritical views checked.
I think those who are offended just want an excuse to have power over something
Plus, an excuse to moan
Dear god. Are you insane? That would make sense. And we can't have that!
PLEASE JOHN, DO NOT TAKE THE JOKE OUT. If the snowflake actors don't like the joke, fire them and get other actors who want to actually do the job they are being paid for.
He didn't! John Cleese is the man!
Here here !
Exactly. Didn't the actors actually watch the film before taking the job?
Kate is about as funny as a migraine attack with nausea.
she would be funny if she could , but she cant
@@patthewoodboy she can't because of low IQ. Not her fault, just nature 😂😂😂
I think she was recently a man so she's still a wee tender.
She's as funny as taking nail clippers to your mouth and cutting the ends of your teeth off so the nerves are exposed...
Jim you are not saying anything of value!
One of life's biggest mysteries to me is Kate identifying as a comedian! Absolutely blows my mind
Men can identify as women, so she can identify as a comedian, same sort of thing.
Always remember: 'Sticks and stones may break my bones but will always be something to offend a feminist'. 🤣😂🤣😂
I think she's funny looking
Yes, Something in her life has failed her, it seems to be an ability to think logically.
But she constantly says things that makes me laugh. Just never the things she intends as a joke.
So, why did the chicken cross the road? Because it would rather be run over than go to a Kate Smuthwaite show
It is the funniest sketch in any comedy for the last 50 years. Hilarious then, unbelievably accurate now
Guy completely wiped the floor with Kate - wasn’t hard but it was nice to see him just talk over her every time she tried to speak over him. She says NOTHING while always talking.
he really didn't
The actors aren’t really offended by the joke. They’re scared of being cancelled and hiding behind the virtue curtain.
well said, nail on the head
I'm so glad I saw this film before laughing started to become illegal.
I may have to have a Monty Python Marathon now. I would recommend for anyone to watch everything they did.
@@hippie6943 have you seen the "I want to have an argument!" sketch?
Reminds me of a comedy sketch some years ago about a northerner making the news because he was in London saying hello to people
"I did not mean to be happy"
@@SamuelBlack84
That was hilarious, Mornin.
Unless your laughing at straight white men being schooled and told they are racist. And men in general.
Kate Smurthwaite:
"There is always something to offend a feminist" 🤣
This is about trans issues, not feminism. You couldn’t manage watching 2 mins of a video before forming an opinion? Or were you just too excited by a potential opportunity to attack women? Clown.
I wonder if she had a Nic-name at school, along the lines of little blue people, ette at the end of one of the characters.
@@Invictus357she should be called Kate nic Karen 😂
It seems modern audiences are offended by everything nowadays
you've offended me by saying i'm easily offended. stop it.
Let's just SCRAP history altogether...
We're already rewriting and banning bits of it from discussion because we no longer identify with it or it not a reflection of today.
Why even have recorded history at all... It seems like all it does is hurt people feelings these days...
No. Just modern Leftists.
Literally every generation has said this about the next.
@@joshuataylor3550 Really?
It's like monty python predicted the future and our present time .
That’s so true.
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Unbelievable that these comedians knew what was coming 50 years ago!
Not really, people could actually think back then. State of the education system is bringing the national iq down
Nothing like a good old fashioned book burning to bring people together
I love that film and there’s no way I’d go to see a version of it with bits cut out to protect a group of people who won’t even be there. I think it’s the fans who will be insulted and they won’t bother going.
It's kind of amusing to think that original film was controversial with the religious groups when it released. Now this stage play is getting heat by the LGBT community for one joke.
I am a Christian, and went to see it at the cinema.
It never offended me or my beliefs, I found it incredibly funny, and still do.
I saw it in the context of beware of false prophets.
And seen through today’s eyes, following anyone blindly, without your own thoughts.
“Your all individuals” “we are all individuals”, “I’m not”, “shhhhhh”.
Kate does stand up comedy… let that sink in
Are people allowed to laugh at her ‘comedy’?
A review once said she's about as funny as a bunch of kids dying of a cancer.
I need to see this
Does she?
I tried to wach a youtube clip from her show, it is not funny. The jokes are blunt. Her delivery is poor...
Cleese was a genius
Still is.
Was being the key word. Just a washed up right wing mouth piece now
"I'm not dead!"
"You'll be stone dead in a moment"
IS ..he still is.
She does realise there is a joke in the film about rape, right? That bit with Mandy and Brian-
'You mean you were raped???'
'Well, yes....at first....'
But instead she picks on this.
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"If you can be told what you can see or read,
Then it follows that you can be told what to say or think"
Orwell warned us about that, too.
The joke was ahead of its time and now the joke is upon us. Monty Python made comedy of the fact that a man wanted to be regarded as a woman: Stan becoming Loretta. Stan decalared that he wanted to have babies to which John Cleese character pointed out that it was impossible because he didn't have a womb. This scene was juxtaposed into a movie about a Messiah and the mindless mob that sought to follow him. The trouble now is that men can now have babies! How so? Well, simply be a woman, equipped with womb, and declare that you are a man! In the warped times that are now, this is good enough. The brainwashed or brain-addled amongst us will support any fucked-up idea to appear loving and virtuous. Common sense and logic, not to mention biology, have gone missing. I imagine that the current times will be reflected upon in the same way that we reflect on the Spanish Inquisition. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
"He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy"
“You are all individuals”, “we are all individuals”, “I’m not”, “Shhhhh”.
At least today we can agree the spanish inquisition, (while often unexpected,) were barbaric, violent, and needlessly cruel. How long before future society reflects on our current age with the same dismay?
Can't wait until Kate's 'comedy show' tickets go on sale - seen her loads of times on TV opining and she strikes me as a total humour free zone.
As a modern audience member I am not offended
Me too, not offended
Ridiculous!
” Should Life Of Brian ‘Pregnant Man’ Joke be Scrapped?”
Every sane persom knows the answer to that question. Now, can we please wake up from this stupid nightmare we are all in rhe middle of. The sad fact is the world was more sane in the 1970’s!
This is ludicrous. Monty Python is a classic. Comedy is COMEDY! Everyone is fair game, that's the point. If you can't handle it without your precious feelings being hurt, then don't bloody watch! Simple.
It's clear on which side the TV hosts are on. Once again Monty Python scores a win
This should NEVER be removed!!!! Books should NEVER be edited just because some parts of society go off kilter. Please must stop being easily offended. If the person has died , his famioly should NEVER be able to change his or her body of work PERIOD!
The fact they’re talking about editing Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (something about Augustus Gloop representing fat phobia) shows how insane things have gotten.
That scene is even funnier now than it was when it was written.
Do we edit things out of plays about the holocaust? the Cold War? The Troubles? No, we don’t. The Life of Brian was, and is, one of the greatest works of all time. It used humour to show us all out of our own prejudices and assumptions about the world.
And, actually, it’s still in step with human biology. While more would perhaps assimilate with the character Stan now than in the 1970s, the human male remains unable to bear children!
And in fact the characters can be seen to resolve the issue, by granting Stan the right to have babies, even though he doesn’t have a womb, which is nobody’s fault not even the Roman’s.
They don’t show that part of the sketch on the TV, and that is the danger with tv producers trying to whip up a debate.
I know trans people say females who are trans and consider themselves male say they give birth but that's cause they have female and not male biology.
One of the funniest scenes, ever. And profoundly prescient. If you cant take a joke, no one will force you to watch the scene. There are movies, and all sorts of art, that offend. Once again, no one is forcing you to look. At least not yet.
Original pieces should never be changed. Life of Brian was genius for a reason. If the new actors want to cut scenes, maybe they should make their own version called "Life of Loretta".
I remember an actor saying he wanted a line changed in a writer’s script, the writer said, I don’t tell you how to act, so don’t tell me how to write.
How patronizing, she looked at the audiance and worked out what they would and would not get. Just wow
Think it was a crowd with a lot of muslims tbh
Leicester is only 50% white
One of the best bits in the film! Love it! I really dont think that people in real life care that it's in there. This is just the online 'will complain about anything' lot, which are a VERY vocal yet VERY small minority. I'd heard nothing about this until This Morning decided to debate it. Just like a lot of the topics that This Morning brings up!
Hello handsome
Big nose
The uncomfortableness they’re feeling is call TRUTH
Facts
It's so good to see John Cleese keep in touch with reality.
I hope he do not change just to satisfy the lunatics.
The whole premise of the movie is to point out the absurdity of people's beliefs. We can convince ourselves of anything. Rationalize the obsurd, and wish reality wasn't real. Laughing at the obsurd, is an excellent tool for seeing things as they really are.
Exactly right.
I love how she just doesn't get the joke, it was one of the best jokes written before it was really funny.😂
6 people wrote that script, 2 of them are no longer with us! Is it not allowed to just be funny?
The character in the film is not saying he wants to "IDENTIFY as a woman". He is saying he wants to BE a woman. There IS a DIFFERENCE. That desire is just as absurd today at it was decades ago. That is the only "context" needed.
We laugh at how the Victorians avoided words that even remotely suggested anything sexual. We laugh at how they Bowdlerized Shakespeare. This is no different.
The bigger controversy here is calling Katie a comedian.
They want it out because it’s so realistic and absurd it terrifies them with its truthfulness.
If no one is forcing people to watch it, why are we forcing others not to watch it?
And what if I feel offended by being treated like an idiot? Which happens more and more often
Why cancel something that’s completely true!
Absolutely nothing "should be scrapped", its perfect the way it is, thank you very much!
I have got a big nose and I love the scene about big noses 😂😂😂
Funny how those wanting to censor everything also talk over real people during these discussions.
Anything on Phill Schofield and his brother today? 😂😂😂
The message was as absurd 40 years ago as it is today.
The joke is hilarious 😂
One of life's mystery's to me is how the hell is Kate Smurthwaite classed as a comedian....
People with big noses 😂😂 she perked up quick
"there's a worry it could offend..."
Comedy is about making statements about life that can offend people who don't agree.
It's comedy. If you dont agree with it, turn over.
Best comedy scene of the movie! Should not be scrapped
What is offensive about telling a man who identifies as a woman that they can’t give birth because they don’t have a womb?
So, 50 years ago, Cleese was having debates with the church about the offensiveness of his jokes with regards to Christianity. I hated that then, and I hate this now, but you know what? At least the church had the balls to have a debate, these woke twats refuse to have even that, they demand everyone else adheres to their religion and for no one to question it.
LIFE OF BRIAN is a semi-perfect comedy!
We all knew it was coming sooner or later.
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I recognize the "comedian" to the left. She is the same woman that got triggered when that dude said "Roses are red, violets are blue, but there will always be something to offend a feminist"
Who are these lots of people who are offended?
Probably 5 people on Twitter with literally NOTHING else to do.
Splitters!!!
The issue is that The Life of Brian has got funnier - and the joke is on us, in this time of idiocy!
This is a great way to bring attention, and younger audiences, to Life of Brian. I hope it works!
I miss those days when absolutely no one was spared from “offensive” jokes. Alas, those fun carefree days are long gone. 😢
KEEP IT! It hits the mail on the head - “I want to be a woman. It’s my right as a man!” That about sums up the incredible mansplaining, delusional self-entitlement of some men.
🤣
Mail? Maybe it hits the male on the head ...
I have a copy of Life of Brian which I will keep and continue to laugh at all of it!
I don't. But now iam going to try and find one to purchase!
They defend Loretta 's right to want to have a baby. Isn't that inclusive?
Wait till Biggus Dickus hears about this.
I'm offended they are offended over the past and we should get rid of them
tell the peoples front of judea ...
It’s called evolution times change
@@SuperSouthchick a man can’t get pregnant for fuck sake! A man’s got a dick a woman’s got a fanny ! End of! There are only 2 genders
@Talorc MacAllan I don’t think gender is a fad
@@SuperSouthchickwell there’s two and the only your born with is the only valid one. If you think different then you should be locked away.
No way should it be scrapped, it's pathetic.
The scene in Life of Brian was really funny. No, it should not be scrapped.
Saying Kate Smurthwaite is a comedian is like saying a man can have a baby
Has anyone thought that it was put into the film to bring awareness of the trans community back in 1979? The movie is all about a case of mistaken identity. By all means be aware of being DELIBERATELY offensive, but Christ Almighty, grow a backbone if you can't take a joke in it's context, nowadays too many people are offended by things which have no importance in comparison to bigger problems in the world. Being constantly offended because of something you don't agree with must be a very sad existence to live with...I bet Christ isn't even offended by the movie, God bless all who reads this 😂
It does at times feel like people have forgotten that mocking things is the very essence of comedy. Especially British comedy we mock EVERYONE, especially ourselves. I wonder if one day we're gonna reach a point of people saying we can't mock stuff that happened to ourselves cause it's offensive.
John Cleese is a legend. If you’re offended by this, you’re a waste of oxygen.
"It's possible the actors hadn't read the script."? Of course, the actors had read the script, that's how the process works. They've read the script and decided it offends them, but not enough for them to decline the job and the pay that goes with it. Instead, they pressure the precious into editing out one of the most incisive and prescient scenes ever written.
If the actors aren't comfortable with it then get other actors. It's part of the script and they are being paid to do it. We really need to stop pandering to a very small group of people with mental health issues.
Yes. Fuck them!!! It does my head in that this is even a conversation!!! Fire them and get other actors. If John Cleese caves to these dimwits, we really are doomed.
Here's a suggestion... Offer a once a week edited version of the play and see how many people request tickets to it as compared to the demand for the original version.
Totally agree with you 👍
Excellent idea!
Dear Goodness......can we all get back to just having a good time?
You made the best comment ever to this subject. That is spot on! Lets just have a good time in stead of making EVERYTHING a discussion….
This video gets a dislike from me for even existing.
The fact this is even up for debate makes a mockery of history and of British comedy as a whole.
No, of course it shouldn't be scrapped.
Lets just burn all the history books because what happened then isn't whats happening now.
Ffs.
Asking Smurthwaite about comedy is like asking Dwight York about fatherhood.
its more prevalent than ever
Life imitates art.
Leave that scene alone. It has never been so relevant.
If your offended, watch something else 😂
I noticed which side interrupts and delves into histrionic body language.
As a Christian I have enjoyed a lot Monty Python’s works but found Life of Brian a very hard and at times offensive watch. However, I fully respect its right to exist based on freedom of speech.
The ending of the video nailed it. It’s ironic that a production that is satire against Christian views has “concerns” certain trans groups may be offended by the trans type jokes. But somehow no consideration is taken that from day 1 some Christian’s can take offence to it.
Hmm... don't know whether I really understand what you're saying? There is mockery for the right reasons and then there is mockery for the wrong reasons. Life of Brian isn't just satirising religious belief it's satirising absolute certainty with respect to religious belief, especially in the scene with the crowd that keeps stalking Brian lol
I've seen tons of Christians mocking atheists by straw manning their position with the childish 'you believe the Universe was created from nothing by nothing' lol when scientists are still trying to work out with competing theories where the mathematics behind the Universe's formation leads!
They may not even think it would make sense using terms like "before" apparently material energy might be eternal and our societies have likely collectively grown and developed to become morally and ethically more complex over time, that's why I don't think the foundation for morality argument works either.
We've developed both intellectually and socially to be able to empathise and structure our societies with respect to that empathy as a collective benefit generally becomes more beneficial at the individual level with respect to survival.
Even animals have this on a basic level and what I see is religion hijacking that and claiming that it's the central feature, when in some instances it can be argued as a primitive understanding of it. A potential origin isn't the same thing as a standard, which is why it is fallacious to arbitrarilly view homosexuality as immoral for example.
Comparing it to paedophilia, which would be the move of someone like William Lane Craig for example is intellectually dishonest because unlike homosexuality there are actual moral issues to consider such as the child being mentally and emotionally scarred due to physical and emotional immaturity.
And even if the child doesn't subjectively feel scarred they may intern act out what they have learned which could scar someone else. Little girls would be especially at risk because if they sexually matured early (they tend to earlier than boys) then their bodies might still not be developed enough to having kids and they could die since abortion is wrong according to certain popular denominations.
Now I'm not saying that Christianity can't still be believed while viewed through a cultural/historical lense rather than a fundamentalist, literalist one, but a lot of times it doesn't seem to be the case and you can't altogether blame those who might misunderstand.
I also acknowledge that there is difference between belief and knowledge, I could be gnostic or agnostic about a position but I might think there are hints or inferences that suggest it might be true.
But to me that is still entirely different from saying that it absolutely is or isn't. There are some Christian's who argue the whole brain in a vat argument with respect to reality which could apply to them just as much as everyone else!
I think belief can shape aspects of the more abstract nature of reality that is beyond our understanding, I think it is a 2 way process. Is that a belief? Sure, but inferences seem to suggest as much. I also think Life of Brian is just a bit of fun, but I understand why you might be offended and for what it's worth even though a lot of times I've seen religious people argue dishonestly, I respect the fact that you think they should be able to express themselves, as they see fit as in the long run I think it deepens understanding and clarity.
@@jpdicey789 Sorry, to re-word what I'm trying to say, is that if they were so worried about offending trans people, why did they stop there and why was that the big issue/concern? Did they ever even consider how offensive the overall material might be to Christians?
So my point was more around the irony of the productions concerns of offending one group without really caring or even considering how other groups may feel.
This is the equivalent of someone making a Satire about Japan and the biggest concern is not about how Japanese people would take it, but rather a scene that makes jokes about fat people.
I as a Christian have found alot of the humour in Life of Brian very clever but at times very offensive, but respect it's right to exist based on free speech despite not liking the content and despite the core of the film being a satire of Christian beliefs.
And I have no issue with people watching it or finding it funny.
I would rather live in a world where that freedom of thought (especially in comedy) was encouraged rather that censored. With censorship the LGBT group and minorities would not have the social support and acceptance they have today.
So they are trying "to do the right thing" with deeply flawed ignorance. A good example is how in WW2 the US felt they were figthing Nazism and fighting Anti-semitism and intolerence. Yet even the army they used had open segregation of blacks and blacks were still heavily discriminated in America. Because of how they viewed blacks as sub-human at the time, that concept of morally evaluating how they treated blacks wasn't obvious to them in the slightest.
@@Maxrodon On your first point I would say that I agree that's why I don't think they should be censoring it and I think people's attitudes to it these days are juvenile and childish but I think in this case when it comes to prejudice I can see blame on both sides. I don't really understand why religious people are so concerned about how other people choose to identify (namely public figures who just want to make money by talking about it, which also has dangers if not done responsibly as I'm sure you know) it seems targeted at certain groups because certain other groups have an agenda either political or financial or both.
When it comes to the trivial bullshit like pronouns I'll refer to you however you want is generally my take, but if I dislike you because your unnecessarily pedantic thought process and small petty attitude with relation to it is bringing everyone down I will not feel morally obliged to comply. As for your second question, yes they did and that is why they did it as I have just lengthily explained. It isn't specifically targeted at Christianity in a broader philosophical context, it's targeting ridiculous tribal attitudes and dogmas within it, big distinction.
I would also say that the Japanese and fat people thing is a non-example because fat people and Japanese culture aren't topics that are polarised between each other with respect to how someone views the world to the same degree. Being fat is just poor lifestyle choice, it only becomes immoral with respect to other people and their concern for you and your wellbeing and how you act with respect to that issue.
There aren't any fixed consequences with respect to satirising a culture to the same degree that there would be with respect to satirising what can be viewed as a fixed set of unalterable dogma because if the more beautiful, philosophical aspects of the religion can be separated from the primitive dogma as I've charitably suggested then obviously this analogy doesn't work.
Besides British culture is vastly different from our American counterparts, we tend to acknowledge that certain forms of speech qualify as hate speech and have nothing to do with putting limits on people's freedom, more freedom leads to more emotionally charged snow flakish oversensitivity from my perspective because the crueler the things being said the more over sensitive people get, that's why it's easier for us to laugh at each other and ourselves without getting silly about it, at least that was the case in the past before our culture got even more Americanised lol our culture previously didn't self reflect enough to consider any of this shit we just had a live and let live attitude despite strong opinions.
From my perspective, fat people might have fuck all to do with Japan but what someone's gender is or isn't or whether they're sinning or not more often has far more to do with religious fundamentalists and there is a lot more polarisation with the other than a lot of people want to pretend.
I've never seen large parts of Japanese culture tell a fat person that they're sinning for being overweight lol like I said I don't think either of them should be so focused on in such a pedantic way since in context it isn't even hate speech, but I at least have to acknowledge more reason for understanding one side of the argument over the other.
@@Maxrodon Just like to add that if you do want to argue that gender identity and sex are more closely tied together then the bible says that a man shall not lie with a man as he lies with a woman and calls it an abomination. Now, if that isn't perceived as purely historical with relation to culture at the time it can actually be perceived as a jab at gender identity since it would be prohibiting a man lying as a woman would.
i dont care who has an invisible friend they sing to and i do not care what anyone wants to identify as or who anyone loves, as long as they do not push it on me and the rest of society. this is pushing it on me and the rest of society.
If anyone is offended by this part of the play, I highly doubt they would be wanting to buy a ticket. If any of the actors questioned it in the read through, they are quite able to not be in it. [ although how the heck would they not know this scene?? ].
I think people need to stop being offended by everything. And to stop trying to cancel a show or part of it, when they won't be the ones wanting to be there.
That Kate always has to take the 'righteous' stance in every interview, despite being always in the wrong and the killer of comedy. To think she supposedly does stand up is unbelievable!
If the actors don't wanna do the script, well there are choices which can be made on all sides.
This is such a strange part of the skit to focus on. The most hilarious part is the phrase - "It's symbolic of his struggle against reality"
"You don't have a womb" - Kate: " but it's quite brutal":
Fact: The man doesn't have a womb. Therefore, a fact is brutal.
Now, do we want this kind of logic/persona in ANY kind of administrative position?
When you have actual comedians nowadays like this woman who are arguing for censorship in comedy than you know that society is heading towards a particularly dark and dangerous place.
It's already here.
Kate the non-comedian says that John Cleese didn't intend to write it as a piece for transgender issues but merely as a joke. Well to me transgenderism is a joke.
That freddy needs to chill out. 1 of the best films ever made Life of brian.
I've been waiting for this debate for a while.
if actors wont do a role for any reason, then they are not the actors for that role, acting is pretending to be something you are not, if you cant do that then you aint an actor.
Kate defines the subtle cowardice and tyranny of self-censorship. As a fairly devout Catholic, I find the crucifixion scene sacrilegious and offensive. But I would be the LAST person to presume to edit a film that nobody is forcing me to watch, and I would want to include all the best humor in a stage production. John Cleese taking down the transgender madness is one of the funniest satires in the movie.
And the group-think solution to the little argument, deciding to fight for Stan's right to be a woman even though he can't, is a brilliant take-down of SJW.
In spite of the ending, "Life of Brian" remains one of my favorite flicks, exceeded in humor perhaps only by Python's other masterpiece; "M.P. and the Holy Grail". When Monty Python becomes PC, it stops being Monty Python.
Its not easy to find an article about Gibsons dog that even mentions the original name, virtually every article i could find described the name a "a racial slur" but none would say what the slur was...which i actually think is quite disturbing.
Even in context, writers cannot even write a partially censored version of the word in question.
This is what the rewritting of history looks like.
I actually didn't know the dog in the movie dambusters was called *"N*g*er"* perhaps naively i thought the black Labrador might be called Blackie... (Yet another words thats recently been removed from history).
While, sure, i can say it's not appropriate to call a black Labrador *"Ni**er"* ... I also don't think its appropriate to rewrite history... Or to rewrite a oersons character (fictional or otherwise).
The dog in the movie was based on a real dog in real life events...
Changing the name of the dog is CHANGING the history.
One more reason to dig out and preserve old-print books. All the past will soon be gone.
I remember the late great christopher hitchins who told a story allegedly about a writer of a just published dictionary where some people congratulated him on keeping all the swear words out of the dictionary and he congratulated them back on their perseverence on looking them all up . His point being that if people are determined to look for offense then theres not much that can be done . How far back will woke go to erase books, movies and whatever else that someone finds offensive. This sketch was only stating a biological fact .
So it's ok to offend Christians but not trans people? Crazy. If you don't like it don't go.
Why has the footage been blurred out?
Whilst it might be argued that Spike Milligan invented this style of humour, Monty Python put this irreverence on steroids and millions of people are better for it.
When I first saw this film in 1979 - as a couple of teenagers, myself and a friend nearly collapsed with laughter coming out of the Odeon Clapham Junction - a brilliant film. It did not attack Christianity at all, the whole basis of the film was that three wise men knocked at the WRONG door, Brian's house and then made fun of the mistake. It then takes the piss out of the Roman occupation of Judea, latin teachers, preachers in general, frankly anything and everything, including people with big noses, like me - faarking hilarious.
If the actors don't like it, fire them and get actors who do................problem solved.