What I love about the Dodgers roster is players contribution to defer the money so the Dodgers have the cash and have a present payroll just over the Luxury tax limit
@@gyrozeppeli918 Exactly. It’s also because the culture within the organization is exceptional. Players want to be there. Being in So Cal helps for sure, but the Dodgers capitalize on it and do a great job with branding and promoting their players.
Trevor May said that truthfully you can’t have one without the other you have to have both so if you want the floor, you also have to recognize that that also equals a cap. Brodie Brazil brought something up pretty interesting to not necessarily have a floor but penalization if you go below the certain set thresholds like loss of draft picks or less revenue sharing money. I agree with the second approach and I think having some form of a poor man’s tax might be easier to implement than a full on floor with no cap.
The Dodgers also put money back into the stadium and operations. They've spent $300 mil on improvements/upgrades to the stadium and have announce new upgrades this week. There also spend a ton of money on the DodgersFoundation. The ownership group committed $50 mil of to the foundation and promised to double that if the made it to the world series, which they did.
The salary floor is going to be HARD to implement since Manfred has to go against the billionaires. The best way I can say this is don't hate the players: hate the game. Unless the Fishers, Nuttings and Reinsdorfs of the world sell, then welcome to years of 1-3 competitive years before going back to baseball hell: make your window count like the 2015 Royals. Plus, some owners do spend but kind of...don't think about the culture of the franchise and how much regression destroys pitchers and hitters with that team's culture, aka DON'T BE ARTE MORENO AND THE ANGELS.
That’s a good point. But, like I said in the video, if the salary floor is $100 million I strongly doubt owners as a whole would be opposed to it. These guys are business first, but I would still say that a solid majority of them actually care about the product on the field. Baseball is better when teams spend, period. Also, don’t remind me about Moreno. I’ve been suffering as a fan now for over a decade 🤣🥲
Wow I’ve never thought about this, this is a amazing concept!!! Especially because the comparisons the sport gets to soccer when they’re not at all the same it’s hard to explain how the issue differs when ultimately money is their main issue
It sucks that these crappy teams are preventing top international players from coming to the MLB before the age of 25. Ohtani signed with the Angels and was making 500k-700k a year; if he waited a couple years like most wouldve, he could've made 20-30 million a year. The international bonus pool is bogus; I want to see the best players play in the MLB
@@seanrodgers7327 Honestly I don’t. The luxury tax threshold is going up year after year. By the time they have to start paying Ohtani, Betts, and Smith the large portions of their deals, guys like Freeman and Glasnow will be off the books. Additionally, the Dodgers are bringing in so much cash just off Yamamoto and Ohtani alone that it will essentially be chop change to them. That’s at least what I think. Thanks for the kind words.
@@gyrozeppeli918 I see your point and somewhat agree with it. But Oakland was also a powerhouse back in the 70s and won multiple championships. Why? Because they financially invested their roster. Reggie Jackson, Catfish Hunter, Vida Blue, Rollie Fingers, Joe Rudi and Ray Fosse are some names that come to mind. Granted, the league was different 50+ years ago, but the idea of doing good business has relatively stayed the same.
I wonder if a promotion/relegation system would work in baseball. It would be a good incentive to prevent teams from underperforming. But since the minor league teams have an affiliation with a major league team, it probably wouldn't work out here
@@jasonhowell7763 I don’t see it happening. The brand value gap between Major League and Minor League clubs is so extreme that I don’t think MLB would allow it. It is an interesting concept however.
the luxury tax discourages teams to over spending. where does that taxes goes to? I think there should be a penalty for spending below the average salary teams for 3 consecutive years and or being for 3 the lowest salary teams . it could be less funds from the taxes or loss of draft picks. grammer edits 😂
So I looked this up and according to Baseball America, the first $3.5 million of luxury tax proceeds fund player benefits via the MLB Players Benefit Plan Agreements. Then 50% of the remaining proceeds go to players’ IRAs, while the other 50% goes to the commissioner’s discretionary fund (Manfred can then decide who to pay with this money - he usually splits it evenly between teams that grew their non-media net local revenue over a multi-year period). Hope this helps
That's dumb, so if a team has a good year where a bunch of rookies become good enough to debut in the MLB, and as a result their payroll goes below the floor since they have many players at league minimum, the team has to then purposely out and get an expensive player to be over the salary floor, even if they don't need that player? Then what happens in 4 years when all these rookies enter arb and the payroll starts to swell? A salary floor is stupid, and a hard salary cap is stupid too. The soft salary cap that we have is plenty sufficient. Luxury tax is more prohibitive than most fans think, and it prevents payrolls from ballooning.
@@laartwork It's just a hypothetical scenario to prove a point. You want teams to always base their FO decisions on what their team needs rather than how to meet the salary floor.
I would say this. Look at what the Braves did. The contracts they gave Acuña, Albies, Riley, Harris, and Strider were given to them early in their careers. All of those contracts are well under each of the players’ market value. They avoided arbitration altogether with these and now have their core locked in for a solid 6-7 years. This is something that I actually like. This means that they don’t have to go out and pay an “expensive” player if they don’t want to. And if they decide to, they still have the money to do so (while still being under the luxury). A team like the Orioles should do the same with all their young guys (Rutschman, Henderson, Westberg, Rodriguez, Cowser, Holliday, etc).
@@seanstuchbery Wouldn’t say cheating. But definitely taking advantage of the CBA. There’s no rules saying they can’t do that. The current CBA expires in 2026 so I wonder if this will be a point of emphasis then.
What I love about the Dodgers roster is players contribution to defer the money so the Dodgers have the cash and have a present payroll just over the Luxury tax limit
@@gyrozeppeli918 Exactly. It’s also because the culture within the organization is exceptional. Players want to be there. Being in So Cal helps for sure, but the Dodgers capitalize on it and do a great job with branding and promoting their players.
Trevor May said that truthfully you can’t have one without the other you have to have both so if you want the floor, you also have to recognize that that also equals a cap. Brodie Brazil brought something up pretty interesting to not necessarily have a floor but penalization if you go below the certain set thresholds like loss of draft picks or less revenue sharing money. I agree with the second approach and I think having some form of a poor man’s tax might be easier to implement than a full on floor with no cap.
The Dodgers also put money back into the stadium and operations. They've spent $300 mil on improvements/upgrades to the stadium and have announce new upgrades this week. There also spend a ton of money on the DodgersFoundation. The ownership group committed $50 mil of to the foundation and promised to double that if the made it to the world series, which they did.
@@OXR1200 Now imagine if every team treated their operations and fanbase with the same respect
Dodgers also have the best analytics, scouting and player development in the league. They literally are the example other team should strive for.
@@dyingearththeir analytics are inspired from the Rays but now with resources. A generation ahead from the Yankees.
Here's a video on the renovation:
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The analytics came from Friedman. He was the Rays' GM from 2006 to 2014. He deserves the most credit out of everyone in the Dodgers front office.
“Spend more money on players”
Cheap owners: 😭
The salary floor is going to be HARD to implement since Manfred has to go against the billionaires.
The best way I can say this is don't hate the players: hate the game.
Unless the Fishers, Nuttings and Reinsdorfs of the world sell, then welcome to years of 1-3 competitive years before going back to baseball hell: make your window count like the 2015 Royals.
Plus, some owners do spend but kind of...don't think about the culture of the franchise and how much regression destroys pitchers and hitters with that team's culture, aka DON'T BE ARTE MORENO AND THE ANGELS.
That’s a good point. But, like I said in the video, if the salary floor is $100 million I strongly doubt owners as a whole would be opposed to it. These guys are business first, but I would still say that a solid majority of them actually care about the product on the field. Baseball is better when teams spend, period.
Also, don’t remind me about Moreno. I’ve been suffering as a fan now for over a decade 🤣🥲
Exactly, need to emphasize more owners spending more and more money so we can have a competitive league
Wow I’ve never thought about this, this is a amazing concept!!! Especially because the comparisons the sport gets to soccer when they’re not at all the same it’s hard to explain how the issue differs when ultimately money is their main issue
Great first video! I’m excited to see what you make in the future! Keep up the great work!
It sucks that these crappy teams are preventing top international players from coming to the MLB before the age of 25. Ohtani signed with the Angels and was making 500k-700k a year; if he waited a couple years like most wouldve, he could've made 20-30 million a year. The international bonus pool is bogus; I want to see the best players play in the MLB
It's safe to say that 1 billion dollars for a country of new fans, is INCREDIBLY cheap 😂
Nice work! Do you think the dodgers deferrals will catch up with them down the road or will inflation + higher luxury tax brackets balance it out?
@@seanrodgers7327 Honestly I don’t. The luxury tax threshold is going up year after year. By the time they have to start paying Ohtani, Betts, and Smith the large portions of their deals, guys like Freeman and Glasnow will be off the books. Additionally, the Dodgers are bringing in so much cash just off Yamamoto and Ohtani alone that it will essentially be chop change to them. That’s at least what I think. Thanks for the kind words.
In 10 years, they’ll have to pay Ohtani a lot more
@@therealjaystone2344in ten years 68 million a year will be an average all star.
i like this take - cool video
Dodgers Mets Yankees have a big market so they just pay taxes from what they earn
On the other hand
Oakland earn money by cutting costs
@@gyrozeppeli918 I see your point and somewhat agree with it. But Oakland was also a powerhouse back in the 70s and won multiple championships. Why? Because they financially invested their roster. Reggie Jackson, Catfish Hunter, Vida Blue, Rollie Fingers, Joe Rudi and Ray Fosse are some names that come to mind. Granted, the league was different 50+ years ago, but the idea of doing good business has relatively stayed the same.
I've believed this for a long time.
I wonder if a promotion/relegation system would work in baseball. It would be a good incentive to prevent teams from underperforming. But since the minor league teams have an affiliation with a major league team, it probably wouldn't work out here
@@jasonhowell7763 I don’t see it happening. The brand value gap between Major League and Minor League clubs is so extreme that I don’t think MLB would allow it. It is an interesting concept however.
Facilities alone will make that a non-starter
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Yeahhhh!
the luxury tax discourages teams to over spending. where does that taxes goes to? I think there should be a penalty for spending below the average salary teams for 3 consecutive years and or being for 3 the lowest salary teams . it could be less funds from the taxes or loss of draft picks.
grammer edits 😂
So I looked this up and according to Baseball America, the first $3.5 million of luxury tax proceeds fund player benefits via the MLB Players Benefit Plan Agreements. Then 50% of the remaining proceeds go to players’ IRAs, while the other 50% goes to the commissioner’s discretionary fund (Manfred can then decide who to pay with this money - he usually splits it evenly between teams that grew their non-media net local revenue over a multi-year period). Hope this helps
That's dumb, so if a team has a good year where a bunch of rookies become good enough to debut in the MLB, and as a result their payroll goes below the floor since they have many players at league minimum, the team has to then purposely out and get an expensive player to be over the salary floor, even if they don't need that player? Then what happens in 4 years when all these rookies enter arb and the payroll starts to swell?
A salary floor is stupid, and a hard salary cap is stupid too. The soft salary cap that we have is plenty sufficient. Luxury tax is more prohibitive than most fans think, and it prevents payrolls from ballooning.
That team doesn't exist. Nice fairy tale. What is real is teams trying to keep profit and not be competitive. They hurt badeball.
@@laartwork It's just a hypothetical scenario to prove a point. You want teams to always base their FO decisions on what their team needs rather than how to meet the salary floor.
I would say this. Look at what the Braves did. The contracts they gave Acuña, Albies, Riley, Harris, and Strider were given to them early in their careers. All of those contracts are well under each of the players’ market value. They avoided arbitration altogether with these and now have their core locked in for a solid 6-7 years. This is something that I actually like. This means that they don’t have to go out and pay an “expensive” player if they don’t want to. And if they decide to, they still have the money to do so (while still being under the luxury). A team like the Orioles should do the same with all their young guys (Rutschman, Henderson, Westberg, Rodriguez, Cowser, Holliday, etc).
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Haha, thanks 🔥
dodgers cheating with ohtanis 68m deferred
@@seanstuchbery Wouldn’t say cheating. But definitely taking advantage of the CBA. There’s no rules saying they can’t do that. The current CBA expires in 2026 so I wonder if this will be a point of emphasis then.