i have the cb 650r and i have a friend with the cb 650 f the difference is 8 hp more 6kg less ( 13 lbs +-) more aggressive ride position and a different dash and lights edit : and a different suspension
@@billabong503 For which... Which is what? 🤔 Also is it worth getting the CBR650R over the CBR650F or the CB650R or the CB650F. Are the differences marginal and or mainly just based on looks. I like the looks of the new models a lot but I am sure the price differences are significant enough for me to warrant considering more than looks.
I've been riding on the street for 37 years, I've owned almost 40 motorcycles over that time. I test drove one of the CB650r's and I have to tell you, even though it might be beginner-friendly oh, it's not just a beginner's bike. That is one of the better machines I've ever ridden. It's well-balanced, Nimble, the shifting was incredible (like most Hondas). That's a bike you could start on, and stay on for years.
@@n300zx931, I suppose its an acceptable description, but it kind of short-sells the bike. It would be like saying a Ferrari is a passenger car...well yeah, it is, but it's kind of missing the point. Lol And no, I'm not comparing this to a Ferrari.
Jim Bennett not at all. It only means the bike is easy to ride. This can only be taken as a compliment to the bike. Not an undersell but rather a selling point.
@@ranjeet1449, personally I've never tried one of the Ducati 821's so I couldn't comment on that. But I would say that I'll bet if you factor in things like maintenance and longevity, The Honda's going to beat competition most of the time.
This isn't a starter bike. This is an intermediate bike for the bro that really wants a 600 supersport, but wants to actually be comfortable and have a more useable machine from day to day.
It's a very forgiving bike. I rode the R6 before I bought it. No thanks. The cbr650 is quiet, comfortable, easy to ride. It has plenty of power when you want it.
I have it as a first bike and no issues at all. But then again, I am from Europe where we actually learn to ride a bike for some time before getting a licence. :))
@@ondrejzaruba3402 so if you actually learned to ride a bike first, this wasn't a starter bike. It was your first owned bike after starting on a different bike.
@@tonysvlog2disclaimer: I had a 125cc bike before and took my motorcycle license with an MT07, so I already knew the basics. The 90+ hp only kicks in at Higher rotations, so for the first rides I just kept the revs kinda low, that way it's a very smooth bike and easier to handle. All of that being said, there's nothing like test riding one. Cheers
Hey yammie daddy, maybe pause the lovely background music when you do the startup soundcheck. It's hard to hear the sweet sounds of that 4-cyl with the piano going.
when I brought my Africa Twin to the shop for service, they had a CB650R as a loaner sitting there for me. Coming from the CRF1000L, getting onto this small bike was strange. I felt like my eyes were almost directly over the front wheel. I had her for two days and put about 150 miles on her before I had to return her and pick up my CRF again. Two weeks later I was back at the dealership and bought it. It's so different from the Africa Twin that it's really a great addition to the garage. Every day now, I wonder which bike I'll take. The CB650R is certainly a hoot to drive, I find myself laughing a lot when riding it. Recently, the Honda dealership gave me a CB1000R for two days (why was the bike at the dealership? wait for it!) and I drove that for two days. Yeah, the 145hp are a whole lot quicker than the 95hp, but also a lot less easy to ride. The whole bike feels a lot more like a heap of metal than the 650. When I got the 650 back, the seriousness fell off and I was purely enjoying riding it. Now, the reason it was at the dealership was what I would suggest you as the first mod too: I got the quickshifter fitted. Here in Europe, you get a quickshifter for ~200€ plus fitting. It's so worth it! You do want it. Just open the tabs and kick through the gears without letting off even once. It's the single best thing you can do to the bike.
Hello, do you feel you enjoy the CB650R the way you do since you already own a somewhat bigger big (the Africa Twin)? If you were to have just one bike, would you feel the CB650R a tad under powered? I have an MT-07 and feel it is under powered for my kind of riding here in Canada with some highway riding. I'm considering the CB650R as my next bike but fear I'd quickly get to the same feeling I have with my MT07. Not that I'm considering the CB1000r as the alternative since I still like to be able to push the bike, rather than fear it. The alternatives would be in the 110-130 hp range. Thanks..
@@samerr.9081 so .. I guess it depends on what you want. MOTORRAD, the largest German Motorbike journal has tested the 650R in the alps against the Kawasaki Z900, Aprilia Shiver 900 and Triumph Street Triple S660. In this group, they found the CB650R to be the weakest of the four bikes, mainly because she is rather loud (which she is, especially for a Honda) and she lacks low end punch (well, no wonder, up against a 900cc twin, a same displacement triple and a 900cc four). You need to keep her happy, that is, at 6000rpm or higher and you'll probably want to change gears at 11000-11500rpm. The fun in the CB650R, to me, is not in pure power. She's quick enough to get in trouble, easily, but she's no monster. The fun is in that she handles totally easy. She's a great buddy to ride. The CB1000R is an entirely different beast. That one has lots more low end torque and 50hp more at the top. If pure power is what you're after, that's what you should look at (or an FZ09 or a Street /Speed Triple or or or) - the CB650R, is all about going out and have some good fun. Would I have her as my only bike? That's a different questions. So for day tours about 300-400km, I do, by now, prefer the CB650 over the Africa Twin, because she's such a nice ride. For long rides, I absolutely prefer the Africa Twin as she's so much more comfortable on long trips, carries a lot more load (I think the 650 has less than 160kg of useable load) and has decent wind protection and an upright seating position. Maybe the kilometers travelled per bike is an indication: on the Africa Twin, I did pretty much exactly 10000km this season. On the CB650 I did about 3500. That shows the very different profiles. Hope that helps.
@@pjakobs Do you think perhaps newer 1L bikes will take some learnings from the character this new middleweight 650 has. 🤔 I think Honda are on to a winner with this new formula but I question whether or not other bikes like the new 300s and 1000s will take something from this.
Really nice hearing the 650cc four cylinder exhaust note. With twins, I'm so much more aware of being able to hear each and every cylinder fire. A four transitions over into sounding so much smoother and quieter. Far, far less fatiguing when spending full days in the saddle.
Me too! I've added a Puig Windscreen, Evotech Radiator Guard, some fender extenders from ebay and soon the Yoshimura fender eliminator and frame sliders! It's been a fantastic beginner's bike!
@@miguelcabanillas8539 cool, i added full scproject line and baracuda mirrors soon ill paint whole bike with hydrodipping :D im loving this baby, have fun mate :P
@Nosferatum yeah man, it's been super nice to ride. Unfortunately, the dealership isn't the best but hopefully I will be able to pay the bike off next year.
Same! I love mine, albeit it’s a CB650F. But, it’s the same engine, and bike just different forks. I got my 2008 brand new for 5000$ plus tax in February 2020. Best money I’ve ever spent.
@@johnDukemaster cool, 48bhp sounds more manageable, I am a complete newbie, have not gotten my license yet but I love the look of this bike and the reviews sound good. I have a friend saying to get the Yamaha R3 but I'm not so sure. I want something I will be happy to ride more long term.
@@Kilo_of_Milk Well it is a strong bike. But it's well performing, smooth engine with no surprises when opening the throttle. Stay away from the MT03. That will be boring after a few months. The CB650R is a keeper. Just leaarn the bike, how and when to brake and then learn to open the throttle. Then you'll have a friend for many years to come.
I almost bought this bike, I was about to pull the trigger when I found another dealer that had the CBR650R, and I ended up going with that. Love it! Simple little quick smooth bike.
I remember the day I picked up my CB650R '22. I was riding a Duke 390 before that which I thought was a really cool bike and loads of fun but just wanted a bit more power for the open road and mountains. I sat on the CB, leant forward to the bars (it's more leaned than you think but still a naked posture) and straight away I was like "WOW, this feels like a beast". It really is such a solid feeling bike and that sturdiness extends to riding it as well. The suspension is nice and firm, without being uncomfortable, and the frame and everything feels solid. Yes it is a bit weighty and takes a bit more muscling when you are going fast and trying to flick from side to side but it's not an issue if you have some strength and the bike just feels so solid and stable. Even when I have my GF on the back it feels super composed, has plenty of power to still pass cars etc and it's just a fantastic bike overall. I love mine to bits. I have had it tuned (derestricted), I fitted a G2 Ergonomics 10% quicker throttle which really makes it feel a lot more responsive and sporty, like going from rain to sport on a bike that has riding modes, quick shifter, and I put Metzeler Roadtec 02 tyres on it which have been a real treat and feel a lot more confidence inspiring than the OEM Dunlop D214's. I am thinking about putting an Akrapovic titanium exhaust on it but it's pretty expensive so I am still deciding about that one. I think if I keep the bike long term then it will be worth it so I just need to decide if I think I will have this bike for like 4-5 years and honestly, I think I could live with this bike for 4-5 years, develop my skills, do some track days (already did 1) and keep growing as a rider and this bike wont hold me back and then one day I'll upgrade to a CB1000 Hornet or maybe that new Honda V3. We'll see.
@@joeschmoe2697 its for sure a great beginner bike. In my opinion its very "expensive" and might not be fitted for first bike, but sure its a very good 2nd bike if you want a bike for the long run.
Had the CBR650F 2014 as my first bike. Pretty great to be honest and they gained HP with the years on. Went onto a 600rr and am now riding a 1000rr. Great first bike and the new ones are such lookers.
Started my riding about a year ago on an mt03, put 7k miles on her, then bought this 2021 cb650r. It's an awesome bike and pretty perfect for my skill level - I feel like I can grow a while on this bike, and while I'm really comfortable with her I'm still about a 6 months to a year out from any kinda mastery of her
Just bought this bike and the exact same colour and I must say i came home from the dealership with sweat drenched clothes. Its an absolute weapon. 1st gear has an insane amount of power and it will throw you back but the higher the gear the more smooth and the down shift roar is like no other. Well at least for me. Love it.
I want to throw my hat in the ring as to the appeal of this bike. It fit's my needs being both lighter weight and reasonably responsive. With a smooth operating 650 -4, it seems both capable and comfortable which I find more satisfying on longer rides. Also, I'm very glad that Honda has produced a middle weight bike that doesn't need to be ridden in HIGHWAY ATTACK POSITION harboring insane amounts of power. Some of us no longer feel the need to prove anything on two wheels.
Thank you for the review, I went ahead and bought this bike TODAY (2019 red color brand new). I will take possession of the bike on Thursday Sept 3rd next week and I can’t wait to do my first ride...I’m super exited :)
Great video and bike, thank you! The Honda CB650R is my favorite bike of all those chosen so far. I love the way it looks and appears to perform during your ride. It should be a great bike for a beginner or a returning rider. It will look even better with me sitting on it...
I'm retiring in a few months, just bought a Z400 to sort of go back to basics and learn solid skills (took the MSF ARC, doing a lot of parking lot drills). I bought it knowing I'd keep it for a year or two then trade it, and pick up what would hopefully be a forever bike, The CB650R is a solid contender. I was thinking SV650 or MT-07, I was leaning SV650 because of the looks but now I think the Honda looks better.
This channell has really matured..I mean I was a fan but so much content and different stuff but solid production etc...just great. I'll buy some merch to support
Ive got a 2016 cbr650r. First year it was available in the us. I do love it. It was my upgrade from the cb500f. My first bike. The reason I went for it was the 4 cylinder. Its unique in the 650 size.
I' ve ended my first ever motorbike season cause im new to motorbikes and bought 2020 CB650R(black), i'm super happy with it no trouble at all, except a new tail tidy is a must, i've installed it and now it looks superb..great videos by the way, keep up a good work..
Just went to the 2021 CB-650R from my Re-beginner bike (I’m 42 starting again) which was a Kawi Z400 (GREAT BEGINNER OR RE-BEGINNER). Just one trip around the neighborhood and I know I’ll have to spend a few days getting used to the power in this thing. Consider this when you’re looking: there’s truth in having something to stay out of trouble, there’s wisdom in having enough grunt to get you OUT of trouble. The CB-650 does this well. As long as you have a steady hand and the sense to know when to let the throttle go, just mind the clutch, don’t be stupid, and you’ll be fine.
@@Grainsauce Yes it is kinda. Well it isn't but it can be if you're not stupid. It's nothing like a 600-800 middle weight sport naked. It won't bike you like those. Think of it more like a big 400. It's less spiky than a Street Triple, Brutale or MT09. Much less so but its not as friendly as a -500.
It really seems like Honda has gotten a perfect balance on this bike. With a fit and finish to rival a BMW. Seems like it would just be a great bike to just do hundreds of miles of twisty backroads in a ride.
i had this bike when i took my driving lessons. the first time i drove it i got so excited. i think i was pretty blessed to drive it. first bike ever i had the pleasure to. ride on
Yammie, great review, I've recently got back into riding and after a lot of deliberation I got a low mileage (3000 miles) 2016 model CB650F with ABS - fantastic value for money. Looks great and has plenty of grunt, no-one mentions the Pairs system which is the only gripe I've got, makes it sound like a bag of nails on tickover. The snappy throttle you get used too, just have to learn to curb your enthusiasm. Keep up the good work.
Well this is my dream bike, it have all of futures that i've dream of! ABS, gear indicator, upside down fork and it is a HOOOOONDAAAA! I will fly right to U.S. from the end of the worls for this one give away!
Love this bike. It’s gonna be my next purchase to add to my garage. I’m partial to triumphs and Hondas. Triumph for fit and finish and Honda for reliability 😎🌴
The CBR650F was my first bike and I think it was great. Not too much power and fast enough to be fast. I was experienced with riding dirt bikes when I was little so I felt confident I wasn’t going to drop it but I’d recommend putting crash protection on any new bike. I’d also recommend getting the MT-09 over this bike any day. Same price but: made in Japan, better suspension, way more power and you have power modes. Put crash protection on it so you don’t cry when you drop it.
Real talk, at the prices they are suggesting, it would just be stupid to bring it to the US market. Realistically, why would get the zx25r when you can pay 1000 more for the zx6r? I love the idea, but at the price point, it just doesn't work.
I had a motorcycle dealer tell me to treat your first bike like it’s your second bike. He may have just been trying to sell but he said this: “You will outgrow a low cc bike like 250-400cc very quickly, some bikers will outgrow that in less than a year. I will tell you do not get a big cc bike like an 800-1000cc. I believe the true perfect starter size is around 500-700cc, not lower and definitely not higher.” The great thing about 600cc sport and naked bikes is they perform at the level of a 1000cc bike and can even be faster with all the tech they put into the engine that 1000cc don’t have. Maybe they don’t have it because they don’t need it but what’s being put into 600cc sport and naked bikes is on par and a contender to 1000cc bikes. It’s no different than a V6 turbo with a lot of tech beating the crap out of a V8.
Hey Clammy Boob. If you go to Akrapovic's website and look up this bike, you can find a dyno graph link at the bottom of the page under the 2019 listing. Not only that, but you can listen to what the full exhaust system would sound like on it. It's pretty sexy imo. As for the graph, it clearly shows that at 5000 RPM the power drops off slightly until about 6300 RPM then climbs dramatically. So you are pretty much spot on with the engine characteristics for this bike.
It took me a minute or two to figure out where the piano came from until I stopped the video and checked every background task 1 by 1.. anyway beautiful bike, I'm from an underdeveloped country, and this bike comes to my mind as a dream bike. But one day i'll ride my one with big smile on my face
I was seriously tempted by one of these. The local Honda dealers didn't have one for a test ride. They did have a year old second hand 660cc 94 BHP Triumph Street Triple S at a fair bit less cash than one of these new. I bought the Street Triple :) I do prefer the look of the headlight on the CB650R over the Street Triple. The Street Triple is lighter though, and has a bigger fuel tank, and well I'm British , so Triumph gets extra points there !
The Street Triple is an amazing bike. I’m considering the Street Triple R (765) along with the CB650R. If I choose the Honda it’ll be simply since there is far more dealership support here whereby lots of Triumph dealerships have been closing down through the U.S., and particularly in the Southeast.
@@shogoracing4294 If you haven't got a local dealership that is a bit of an issue. The CB650R does look very good. I've also ridden a Triple 765 RS, that was very quick. Faster than I need. The 765 R does look like the sweet spot in the range of a really good bike without wasting too much cash. I ended up with the 660cc one because it was well just so cheap, and quick enough for me.
You sound like you walked right out of 2006 when people were reviewing my 599 aka Hornet 600. A bucket of parts from the old CBR600F3 with smaller carbs and a very basic setup and yet those Honda engineers obsess over the smallest details. The result is a bike that no list of specifications can describe. I rode my Hornet (599 in the USA) for 25K miles and it was completely trouble free. While it would wrap to 13K I rarely took it over 8K. Rode like a docile 250 if you short shifted or would gladly pull the front wheel with exploration of the upper rev range. Everything about that bike was perfect. It just fit. It did anything and everything I wanted. So what happens when Honda engineers work on the same sort of thing for modern times? Well, it's the bike you reviewed here.
I want to love this so much, and I do, but you can get an MT09 with 20 more horsepower, 40 lbs lighter, and costs 200 less. Oh and that triple sounds amazing.
The thing is you are not allowed to limit an mt09 to 48hp for A2 licenses in europe. So this is where this bike comes in, its close to as powerful as you can get as a first bile for your A2 license in EU
I never drove that bike, but i drove a similar one. The 2014 Honda Cb 650 F and i believe, that those types of bikes are worth it. And yeah, they are really nice beginner bikes and they also don't lack power. 90-ish horsepower is enough for somebody inexperienced. I like the "less plastic" style in them.
Currently taking lessons for my a2 license on this and its real ez to handle and i had no previous bike exp. Ill be buying a z900 for starter bike. Just have some discipline and ull be fine.
I feel like this is the spiritual successor to the 83-85 CB650-SC Nighthawk. The bike punched way above its weight class back in the day. it could outrun 700s and 750s.
Hi Idol.... I'm a No. 1 fan always watching your vlog.... I pray to God that give chance to your bike. That is my dream bike Honda Cb650r ... God Bless always and ride safe
Went and looked at this bike last weekend and fell in love. Unfortunately I’m cheap and ended up buying a used 08 Aprilia SL750 Shiver. Pretty much the same power specs, but for $2k and with a mental exhaust note, I’m a happy camper:
@@alasdairmathieson4130 You aren't using the bike near it's limits. You can ride any bike slow but that Honda can go like Hell, when you figure that out is when it becomes a dangerous bike for a beginner.
@@crp9985 Ngl, I do know what you mean. It would be dangerous for someone who has no training and jumps on it. But with DAS in the UK, having driven a car for years and rode dirt bikes every weekend as a kid. I know I ride close to the limit of the bike as I have had a couple of oh shit moments on a track and know where I can push to on the road because of these. I would be looking at a bigger bike already if I got the 500, 300 or the 125. So yes you are right but also very wrong it all depends on the person who will be riding their experience and training. I assume you live somewhere that you don't need to do training or any courses to get on a bike this size?
@@alasdairmathieson4130 My training has been going on since the late 70's. I have ridden just about every type of bike. I'll give you an example. I bought a 2001 Honda Valkyrie about a month ago. Big bike, big power. I looked at the tire date and the front was 9 years old and the back was 7 years old. Great tread still on them but they were getting old. About a week later I turned left from a stop light and shifted into second gear not aggressively but the back end spun out on me. In my world no problem to get the 800 pound bike back going straight . My first thought was these tires are crap. Went and played around with the back wheel spinning. I immediately bought new tires. Point of all this is I know when things headed over their their limit also knowing how to recover from this. New guys no matter what the training don't know that. No matter what kind of class room training you have had nothing like real world experience. If you don't have experience and you get into a high powered bike you may do fine enough but until you get some experience you can't truly hand a high powered bike.
I really like this bike's aesthetics. I'm taking my MSF this August and planning to buy a CB300r (or MT-03) as my "1st bike for baby." Once I'm experienced enough to ditch the training wheels, I want to get one of these, with the 2020/2021 black tank cover.
The slipery clucth its super easy and forgive the noobs down shifting, the power delivery its smooth, the brakes are good without lock the wheels thanks to the good ABS, the downsides, heavy bike for a new rider, and that engine really want to rev up.
Where's the link to download the pupper playlist that distracted me from listening to the QandA? Agreed though, it's a beautiful bike. I'm debating grabbing one or jumping to the 1000 next.
@@123jjfl I mean he could give an international winner budget and they'd go pick a motorcycle from a local dealership which is within the budget and all Yamie would have to do is wire transfer payments to the dealership. But the only problem is he buys the motorcycles beforehand.
If I was 6, the graphics would be pretty impressive. I guess. The bike seems tached up but I couldn’t see the speed in relation to the sound, I can’t tell. Best of luck to you
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i have the cb 650r and i have a friend with the cb 650 f the difference is 8 hp more 6kg less ( 13 lbs +-) more aggressive ride position and a different dash and lights
edit : and a different suspension
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@@billabong503 For which... Which is what? 🤔 Also is it worth getting the CBR650R over the CBR650F or the CB650R or the CB650F. Are the differences marginal and or mainly just based on looks. I like the looks of the new models a lot but I am sure the price differences are significant enough for me to warrant considering more than looks.
I've been riding on the street for 37 years, I've owned almost 40 motorcycles over that time. I test drove one of the CB650r's and I have to tell you, even though it might be beginner-friendly oh, it's not just a beginner's bike. That is one of the better machines I've ever ridden. It's well-balanced, Nimble, the shifting was incredible (like most Hondas). That's a bike you could start on, and stay on for years.
Jim Bennett correct! Best term to describe the bike. “Beginner friendly” bike. 100%
@@n300zx931, I suppose its an acceptable description, but it kind of short-sells the bike. It would be like saying a Ferrari is a passenger car...well yeah, it is, but it's kind of missing the point. Lol
And no, I'm not comparing this to a Ferrari.
Jim Bennett not at all. It only means the bike is easy to ride. This can only be taken as a compliment to the bike. Not an undersell but rather a selling point.
Do you prefer this over Ducati 821?
@@ranjeet1449, personally I've never tried one of the Ducati 821's so I couldn't comment on that. But I would say that I'll bet if you factor in things like maintenance and longevity, The Honda's going to beat competition most of the time.
This isn't a starter bike. This is an intermediate bike for the bro that really wants a 600 supersport, but wants to actually be comfortable and have a more useable machine from day to day.
It's a very forgiving bike. I rode the R6 before I bought it. No thanks. The cbr650 is quiet, comfortable, easy to ride. It has plenty of power when you want it.
I have it as a first bike and no issues at all. But then again, I am from Europe where we actually learn to ride a bike for some time before getting a licence. :))
@@ondrejzaruba3402 so if you actually learned to ride a bike first, this wasn't a starter bike. It was your first owned bike after starting on a different bike.
Huh... at the school where im getting my license you actually learn on those...
@@kristofzielinski3467 So, that begs the question. Are they on the restricted ECU Tune?
Got the CB650R as my first "big" bike and never looked back! (except to check my blind spots..)
Was the 90hp to much to handle?
@@tonysvlog2disclaimer: I had a 125cc bike before and took my motorcycle license with an MT07, so I already knew the basics. The 90+ hp only kicks in at Higher rotations, so for the first rides I just kept the revs kinda low, that way it's a very smooth bike and easier to handle. All of that being said, there's nothing like test riding one. Cheers
Hey yammie daddy, maybe pause the lovely background music when you do the startup soundcheck. It's hard to hear the sweet sounds of that 4-cyl with the piano going.
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That’s exactly what I was just thinking!
I agree. This bike's thing is a nice sound so the video was totally ruined by some odd piano music..
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when I brought my Africa Twin to the shop for service, they had a CB650R as a loaner sitting there for me. Coming from the CRF1000L, getting onto this small bike was strange. I felt like my eyes were almost directly over the front wheel.
I had her for two days and put about 150 miles on her before I had to return her and pick up my CRF again.
Two weeks later I was back at the dealership and bought it. It's so different from the Africa Twin that it's really a great addition to the garage. Every day now, I wonder which bike I'll take.
The CB650R is certainly a hoot to drive, I find myself laughing a lot when riding it.
Recently, the Honda dealership gave me a CB1000R for two days (why was the bike at the dealership? wait for it!) and I drove that for two days. Yeah, the 145hp are a whole lot quicker than the 95hp, but also a lot less easy to ride. The whole bike feels a lot more like a heap of metal than the 650. When I got the 650 back, the seriousness fell off and I was purely enjoying riding it.
Now, the reason it was at the dealership was what I would suggest you as the first mod too: I got the quickshifter fitted. Here in Europe, you get a quickshifter for ~200€ plus fitting. It's so worth it! You do want it. Just open the tabs and kick through the gears without letting off even once. It's the single best thing you can do to the bike.
Hello, do you feel you enjoy the CB650R the way you do since you already own a somewhat bigger big (the Africa Twin)? If you were to have just one bike, would you feel the CB650R a tad under powered? I have an MT-07 and feel it is under powered for my kind of riding here in Canada with some highway riding. I'm considering the CB650R as my next bike but fear I'd quickly get to the same feeling I have with my MT07. Not that I'm considering the CB1000r as the alternative since I still like to be able to push the bike, rather than fear it. The alternatives would be in the 110-130 hp range. Thanks..
@@samerr.9081 so .. I guess it depends on what you want.
MOTORRAD, the largest German Motorbike journal has tested the 650R in the alps against the Kawasaki Z900, Aprilia Shiver 900 and Triumph Street Triple S660. In this group, they found the CB650R to be the weakest of the four bikes, mainly because she is rather loud (which she is, especially for a Honda) and she lacks low end punch (well, no wonder, up against a 900cc twin, a same displacement triple and a 900cc four).
You need to keep her happy, that is, at 6000rpm or higher and you'll probably want to change gears at 11000-11500rpm.
The fun in the CB650R, to me, is not in pure power. She's quick enough to get in trouble, easily, but she's no monster. The fun is in that she handles totally easy. She's a great buddy to ride.
The CB1000R is an entirely different beast. That one has lots more low end torque and 50hp more at the top. If pure power is what you're after, that's what you should look at (or an FZ09 or a Street /Speed Triple or or or) - the CB650R, is all about going out and have some good fun.
Would I have her as my only bike? That's a different questions. So for day tours about 300-400km, I do, by now, prefer the CB650 over the Africa Twin, because she's such a nice ride. For long rides, I absolutely prefer the Africa Twin as she's so much more comfortable on long trips, carries a lot more load (I think the 650 has less than 160kg of useable load) and has decent wind protection and an upright seating position.
Maybe the kilometers travelled per bike is an indication: on the Africa Twin, I did pretty much exactly 10000km this season. On the CB650 I did about 3500. That shows the very different profiles.
Hope that helps.
@@pjakobs Do you think perhaps newer 1L bikes will take some learnings from the character this new middleweight 650 has. 🤔
I think Honda are on to a winner with this new formula but I question whether or not other bikes like the new 300s and 1000s will take something from this.
thats a good problem to have!!! hmmmm... which bike do I take??
Really nice hearing the 650cc four cylinder exhaust note. With twins, I'm so much more aware of being able to hear each and every cylinder fire. A four transitions over into sounding so much smoother and quieter. Far, far less fatiguing when spending full days in the saddle.
Im a newbie biker, 2019 CB650R is my first bike and im rly happy about that bike very awesome bike guys :)
Nosferatum don’t drop it! :)
Me too! I've added a Puig Windscreen, Evotech Radiator Guard, some fender extenders from ebay and soon the Yoshimura fender eliminator and frame sliders!
It's been a fantastic beginner's bike!
@@miguelcabanillas8539 cool, i added full scproject line and baracuda mirrors soon ill paint whole bike with hydrodipping :D im loving this baby, have fun mate :P
@Nosferatum yeah man, it's been super nice to ride. Unfortunately, the dealership isn't the best but hopefully I will be able to pay the bike off next year.
Are you still alive on this bike?
Let me know please, I have only got 3 years experience on 155cc Nmax scooter
One year after ownership this bikes reviews still catch my eye and I rewatch 😂 this is my dream bike and I own it it’s a legend of a bike ❤️
Currently impossible to find at dealers too. Im looking everywhere in the midwest. None at all lol
Same! I love mine, albeit it’s a CB650F. But, it’s the same engine, and bike just different forks. I got my 2008 brand new for 5000$ plus tax in February 2020. Best money I’ve ever spent.
@@kylecreek6735 CB650R is a beast of a gem!
Have one myself, it’s a quality bit of kit
I bought one for me, rider for 36 years, and one for my son, a newbeginner. Fits all! It really is a wellmade and wellperforming bike.
So obviously you think it is safe enough for a beginner?
@@Kilo_of_Milk My son starts out with A2 license so only 48bhp. But in general, yes it's a bike easy to "read" and ride.
@@johnDukemaster cool, 48bhp sounds more manageable, I am a complete newbie, have not gotten my license yet but I love the look of this bike and the reviews sound good. I have a friend saying to get the Yamaha R3 but I'm not so sure. I want something I will be happy to ride more long term.
@@Kilo_of_Milk Well it is a strong bike. But it's well performing, smooth engine with no surprises when opening the throttle. Stay away from the MT03. That will be boring after a few months. The CB650R is a keeper. Just leaarn the bike, how and when to brake and then learn to open the throttle. Then you'll have a friend for many years to come.
I almost bought this bike, I was about to pull the trigger when I found another dealer that had the CBR650R, and I ended up going with that. Love it! Simple little quick smooth bike.
^ lol. I bought the cbr650r also.
I remember the day I picked up my CB650R '22. I was riding a Duke 390 before that which I thought was a really cool bike and loads of fun but just wanted a bit more power for the open road and mountains. I sat on the CB, leant forward to the bars (it's more leaned than you think but still a naked posture) and straight away I was like "WOW, this feels like a beast". It really is such a solid feeling bike and that sturdiness extends to riding it as well. The suspension is nice and firm, without being uncomfortable, and the frame and everything feels solid. Yes it is a bit weighty and takes a bit more muscling when you are going fast and trying to flick from side to side but it's not an issue if you have some strength and the bike just feels so solid and stable. Even when I have my GF on the back it feels super composed, has plenty of power to still pass cars etc and it's just a fantastic bike overall. I love mine to bits. I have had it tuned (derestricted), I fitted a G2 Ergonomics 10% quicker throttle which really makes it feel a lot more responsive and sporty, like going from rain to sport on a bike that has riding modes, quick shifter, and I put Metzeler Roadtec 02 tyres on it which have been a real treat and feel a lot more confidence inspiring than the OEM Dunlop D214's. I am thinking about putting an Akrapovic titanium exhaust on it but it's pretty expensive so I am still deciding about that one. I think if I keep the bike long term then it will be worth it so I just need to decide if I think I will have this bike for like 4-5 years and honestly, I think I could live with this bike for 4-5 years, develop my skills, do some track days (already did 1) and keep growing as a rider and this bike wont hold me back and then one day I'll upgrade to a CB1000 Hornet or maybe that new Honda V3. We'll see.
Had one of these for 3 months now as my first bike. Definitely an amazing bike and in my case, also perfect for a beginner
Hey man sorry for such a late response but after your experience do you still think it’s an okay beginner bike?
@@joeschmoe2697 its for sure a great beginner bike. In my opinion its very "expensive" and might not be fitted for first bike, but sure its a very good 2nd bike if you want a bike for the long run.
Had the CBR650F 2014 as my first bike. Pretty great to be honest and they gained HP with the years on. Went onto a 600rr and am now riding a 1000rr. Great first bike and the new ones are such lookers.
Sold my Harley and using the extra $ on this CB 650 and got spares for gas, food, and hookers
Hahaha
that's what i wanna hear.
My man
I've been saving up for this bike poppa yam! In a few months I'll have it and cherish it like the woman of my dreams.
Greetings from Mexico
Amador, get it! Then, when the woman of your dreams leaves you, ride off in style with no regrets.
Did you get it yet?
Got the CB300R
Started my riding about a year ago on an mt03, put 7k miles on her, then bought this 2021 cb650r. It's an awesome bike and pretty perfect for my skill level - I feel like I can grow a while on this bike, and while I'm really comfortable with her I'm still about a 6 months to a year out from any kinda mastery of her
Yammie: in a class of its own! Motorcycle industry: middle weight naked bikes is one the most crowded genres.
The faired CBR version is in a class of its own. The naked is not alone as most are still much more road friendly than their faired counterparts.
If it said Ducati on it, everyone would be foaming at the mouth.
well an inline 4 from ducati would be quite unusual...
It doesn’t say Ducati and I’m still foaming. That super cool exhaust man.. wow 😍
not with 80hp
@@philipofriasiv5617 it's 95
@Mike's Bike's bruh have you not seen the Ducati Panigale V2?
Just bought this bike and the exact same colour and I must say i came home from the dealership with sweat drenched clothes. Its an absolute weapon. 1st gear has an insane amount of power and it will throw you back but the higher the gear the more smooth and the down shift roar is like no other. Well at least for me. Love it.
So glad you are featuring the CB650R! It's a gem as a daily commuter bike!
I want to throw my hat in the ring as to the appeal of this bike. It fit's my needs being both lighter weight and reasonably responsive. With a smooth operating 650 -4, it seems both capable and comfortable which I find more satisfying on longer rides. Also, I'm very glad that Honda has produced a middle weight bike that doesn't need to be ridden in HIGHWAY ATTACK POSITION harboring insane amounts of power. Some of us no longer feel the need to prove anything on two wheels.
Bravo! well said
64 years old,owned 500 four,2F4l,VF500 V4,V,FR 800,CBR 1000 RR Hondas and now CB650R by choice.Your lucky to straddle it,much less find one.
Thank you for the review, I went ahead and bought this bike TODAY (2019 red color brand new). I will take possession of the bike on Thursday Sept 3rd next week and I can’t wait to do my first ride...I’m super exited :)
How do you like it?
Love it ;)
@@HassanAnge have fun ride safe and take good care of it
Great video and bike, thank you!
The Honda CB650R is my favorite bike of all those chosen so far. I love the way it looks and appears to perform during your ride. It should be a great bike for a beginner or a returning rider. It will look even better with me sitting on it...
Man I really like the look of that Honda line from the 125 to the cb 1000r it is a totally cool look.
I'm retiring in a few months, just bought a Z400 to sort of go back to basics and learn solid skills (took the MSF ARC, doing a lot of parking lot drills). I bought it knowing I'd keep it for a year or two then trade it, and pick up what would hopefully be a forever bike, The CB650R is a solid contender. I was thinking SV650 or MT-07, I was leaning SV650 because of the looks but now I think the Honda looks better.
This channell has really matured..I mean I was a fan but so much content and different stuff but solid production etc...just great. I'll buy some merch to support
Ive got a 2016 cbr650r. First year it was available in the us. I do love it. It was my upgrade from the cb500f. My first bike. The reason I went for it was the 4 cylinder. Its unique in the 650 size.
I've been looking at its faired sibling, the CBR650R as my next bike. Glad to see you like it!
Ayy supcom fan.
I' ve ended my first ever motorbike season cause im new to motorbikes and bought 2020 CB650R(black), i'm super happy with it no trouble at all, except a new tail tidy is a must, i've installed it and now it looks superb..great videos by the way, keep up a good work..
Just went to the 2021 CB-650R from my Re-beginner bike (I’m 42 starting again) which was a Kawi Z400 (GREAT BEGINNER OR RE-BEGINNER). Just one trip around the neighborhood and I know I’ll have to spend a few days getting used to the power in this thing. Consider this when you’re looking: there’s truth in having something to stay out of trouble, there’s wisdom in having enough grunt to get you OUT of trouble. The CB-650 does this well. As long as you have a steady hand and the sense to know when to let the throttle go, just mind the clutch, don’t be stupid, and you’ll be fine.
Im saving my pennies to one day own this bike .... Thank you for the video Yammie
When he turned on the blinker at 7:24 and forgot for about 40 seconds I felt that.
My OCD has me pushing the blinker cancellation button often. 🤪
A 650 inline 4 as a beginner bike?! This bike is a BEAUTY btw
Same thoughts here, def not a beginner bike haha
I started on a 2018 CB650f. It was actually really nice because it's a pussy cat at low revs. Never once had issues, but always YMMV.
@@Grainsauce Yes it is kinda. Well it isn't but it can be if you're not stupid. It's nothing like a 600-800 middle weight sport naked. It won't bike you like those. Think of it more like a big 400. It's less spiky than a Street Triple, Brutale or MT09. Much less so but its not as friendly as a -500.
It really seems like Honda has gotten a perfect balance on this bike. With a fit and finish to rival a BMW. Seems like it would just be a great bike to just do hundreds of miles of twisty backroads in a ride.
i had this bike when i took my driving lessons. the first time i drove it i got so excited. i think i was pretty blessed to drive it. first bike ever i had the pleasure to. ride on
I just bought one...cannot wait to pick it up!!!!
Yammie, great review, I've recently got back into riding and after a lot of deliberation I got a low mileage (3000 miles) 2016 model CB650F with ABS - fantastic value for money. Looks great and has plenty of grunt, no-one mentions the Pairs system which is the only gripe I've got, makes it sound like a bag of nails on tickover. The snappy throttle you get used too, just have to learn to curb your enthusiasm. Keep up the good work.
Well this is my dream bike, it have all of futures that i've dream of! ABS, gear indicator, upside down fork and it is a HOOOOONDAAAA! I will fly right to U.S. from the end of the worls for this one give away!
I love the header configuration...very reminiscent of my first bike...’76 CB400F
I just picked up a 2015 cbr650f which is the fairing version so I’m excited for this one
Absolutely love that the exhaust resembles the gold wing logo
Dude, I didn't notice that, you're right! Looks great!
Exactly why I got myself one :)
Nice riding, precise steering inputs and light grabbing of the handle bars
"where does it slot in ?" I would say above the SV650 and MT-07s and below the Triumph Street Triple S.
Finally, a bike demo with good music.
I know this is a older video but I’m looking to get my first street bike (been on dirt my whole life) and I think this is the one I’m gonna get.
I have no bike til now, love this.
Love this bike. It’s gonna be my next purchase to add to my garage. I’m partial to triumphs and Hondas. Triumph for fit and finish and Honda for reliability 😎🌴
this bike really mesmerizes me...dreaming to own one. 🙏
The CBR650F was my first bike and I think it was great. Not too much power and fast enough to be fast. I was experienced with riding dirt bikes when I was little so I felt confident I wasn’t going to drop it but I’d recommend putting crash protection on any new bike. I’d also recommend getting the MT-09 over this bike any day. Same price but: made in Japan, better suspension, way more power and you have power modes. Put crash protection on it so you don’t cry when you drop it.
Super happy with my Honda cb300r 👍🏻
*ninja zx25r has entered the chat
Truly. I really hope we get some here in the US, looks like it's an Asia only bike right now.
*heavy breathing*
Yammie Noob I hope that Asia includes India 😂
Yammie Noob if it goes it should be another giveaway bike
Real talk, at the prices they are suggesting, it would just be stupid to bring it to the US market. Realistically, why would get the zx25r when you can pay 1000 more for the zx6r? I love the idea, but at the price point, it just doesn't work.
I had a motorcycle dealer tell me to treat your first bike like it’s your second bike. He may have just been trying to sell but he said this: “You will outgrow a low cc bike like 250-400cc very quickly, some bikers will outgrow that in less than a year. I will tell you do not get a big cc bike like an 800-1000cc. I believe the true perfect starter size is around 500-700cc, not lower and definitely not higher.”
The great thing about 600cc sport and naked bikes is they perform at the level of a 1000cc bike and can even be faster with all the tech they put into the engine that 1000cc don’t have. Maybe they don’t have it because they don’t need it but what’s being put into 600cc sport and naked bikes is on par and a contender to 1000cc bikes. It’s no different than a V6 turbo with a lot of tech beating the crap out of a V8.
Hey Clammy Boob. If you go to Akrapovic's website and look up this bike, you can find a dyno graph link at the bottom of the page under the 2019 listing. Not only that, but you can listen to what the full exhaust system would sound like on it. It's pretty sexy imo.
As for the graph, it clearly shows that at 5000 RPM the power drops off slightly until about 6300 RPM then climbs dramatically. So you are pretty much spot on with the engine characteristics for this bike.
Thanks papa noob I found my perfect bik.. I LOVE YOU HONDA CREATORS
Blinker from 7:30 to 8:00, we've definitely all done that a few times
It took me a minute or two to figure out where the piano came from until I stopped the video and checked every background task 1 by 1.. anyway beautiful bike, I'm from an underdeveloped country, and this bike comes to my mind as a dream bike. But one day i'll ride my one with big smile on my face
Got 650R 2023 and the only thing i wanna do is put quickshifter on, that´s it. Had a 500F and noticed that there´s less booble head effect on 650R
Im usually more a Kawa guy but the Fascia on this is just badass. You are FULLY sellin me
Man, this would be an awesome bike to have!
I just saw one yesterday for the first time, before watching this video. I was surprised was a nice bike it was. really good looking bike.
video editing is top notch here!
I was seriously tempted by one of these. The local Honda dealers didn't have one for a test ride. They did have a year old second hand 660cc 94 BHP Triumph Street Triple S at a fair bit less cash than one of these new. I bought the Street Triple :)
I do prefer the look of the headlight on the CB650R over the Street Triple. The Street Triple is lighter though, and has a bigger fuel tank, and well I'm British , so Triumph gets extra points there !
The Street Triple is an amazing bike. I’m considering the Street Triple R (765) along with the CB650R. If I choose the Honda it’ll be simply since there is far more dealership support here whereby lots of Triumph dealerships have been closing down through the U.S., and particularly in the Southeast.
@@shogoracing4294 If you haven't got a local dealership that is a bit of an issue. The CB650R does look very good.
I've also ridden a Triple 765 RS, that was very quick. Faster than I need. The 765 R does look like the sweet spot in the range of a really good bike without wasting too much cash. I ended up with the 660cc one because it was well just so cheap, and quick enough for me.
I drive a 2019 with a full Black Widow exhaust. Sounds amazing
The best part of being a patron is getting you to read my name on video lol
You sound like you walked right out of 2006 when people were reviewing my 599 aka Hornet 600. A bucket of parts from the old CBR600F3 with smaller carbs and a very basic setup and yet those Honda engineers obsess over the smallest details. The result is a bike that no list of specifications can describe. I rode my Hornet (599 in the USA) for 25K miles and it was completely trouble free. While it would wrap to 13K I rarely took it over 8K. Rode like a docile 250 if you short shifted or would gladly pull the front wheel with exploration of the upper rev range. Everything about that bike was perfect. It just fit. It did anything and everything I wanted.
So what happens when Honda engineers work on the same sort of thing for modern times? Well, it's the bike you reviewed here.
This is definitely the bike for me! ❤️😱😱😱 you convinced me!
Yammie, about that "thing" between 4k and 6k rpm, try remove the induction covers "the grey ones" and go try the bike, the sound its amazing.
also butterflies close by 30% to lower emissions
I want to love this so much, and I do, but you can get an MT09 with 20 more horsepower, 40 lbs lighter, and costs 200 less. Oh and that triple sounds amazing.
Cheaper parts. A lot of people complaining about it’s quick deterioration as opposed to other bikes if it’s class.
The thing is you are not allowed to limit an mt09 to 48hp for A2 licenses in europe. So this is where this bike comes in, its close to as powerful as you can get as a first bile for your A2 license in EU
If you like this, The CB1000R is a real machine. Like next level.
I never drove that bike, but i drove a similar one. The 2014 Honda Cb 650 F and i believe, that those types of bikes are worth it. And yeah, they are really nice beginner bikes and they also don't lack power. 90-ish horsepower is enough for somebody inexperienced.
I like the "less plastic" style in them.
I'm a proud owner of a 2005 Honda Hornet 600 and I really hope this bike will be my next one!
I've got an 04 Hornet and I've gotta say this bike really has me interested in a modern version to pair with it. Gorgeous bike
Currently taking lessons for my a2 license on this and its real ez to handle and i had no previous bike exp. Ill be buying a z900 for starter bike. Just have some discipline and ull be fine.
I feel like this is the spiritual successor to the 83-85 CB650-SC Nighthawk. The bike punched way above its weight class back in the day. it could outrun 700s and 750s.
I have the '18 CB650F. I wonder how it compares to the 650R. Definitely wish I would have waited a year for this bike as the looks are stunning.
I owned the same one. Better dash, style, smoother engine on the 650R. It makes a little less HP I think than the 2018, or at least it felt like it.
It's kinda cool you like Chopin. We are so proud of him-polish people I mean.
Hi Idol.... I'm a No. 1 fan always watching your vlog.... I pray to God that give chance to your bike. That is my dream bike Honda Cb650r ... God Bless always and ride safe
Went and looked at this bike last weekend and fell in love. Unfortunately I’m cheap and ended up buying a used 08 Aprilia SL750 Shiver. Pretty much the same power specs, but for $2k and with a mental exhaust note, I’m a happy camper:
I love this bike. I have a 2019 SV650 and still want the Honda.
I'm a simple man.... I see a Yammy video n I click.
Heavenly SOLDIER or, your a discerning human
That 650 isn't a beginner bike. That's full on, nice all the way around bike.
It is my first bike, 4k miles so far. Its easy to ride forgiving with slipper clutch. Really snappy into corner's. I would say it is.
@@alasdairmathieson4130 You aren't using the bike near it's limits. You can ride any bike slow but that Honda can go like Hell, when you figure that out is when it becomes a dangerous bike for a beginner.
@@crp9985 Ngl, I do know what you mean. It would be dangerous for someone who has no training and jumps on it. But with DAS in the UK, having driven a car for years and rode dirt bikes every weekend as a kid. I know I ride close to the limit of the bike as I have had a couple of oh shit moments on a track and know where I can push to on the road because of these. I would be looking at a bigger bike already if I got the 500, 300 or the 125. So yes you are right but also very wrong it all depends on the person who will be riding their experience and training. I assume you live somewhere that you don't need to do training or any courses to get on a bike this size?
@@alasdairmathieson4130 My training has been going on since the late 70's. I have ridden just about every type of bike. I'll give you an example. I bought a 2001 Honda Valkyrie about a month ago. Big bike, big power. I looked at the tire date and the front was 9 years old and the back was 7 years old. Great tread still on them but they were getting old. About a week later I turned left from a stop light and shifted into second gear not aggressively but the back end spun out on me. In my world no problem to get the 800 pound bike back going straight . My first thought was these tires are crap. Went and played around with the back wheel spinning. I immediately bought new tires. Point of all this is I know when things headed over their their limit also knowing how to recover from this. New guys no matter what the training don't know that. No matter what kind of class room training you have had nothing like real world experience. If you don't have experience and you get into a high powered bike you may do fine enough but until you get some experience you can't truly hand a high powered bike.
Yammie!!! I found your musical collection on bandcamp and you, sir, are talented. Love your musical works as much as your videos here. Keep it up man!
Got a 2018 cb650f for my first bike and I Love it
Yammie, I am waiting a video on your thoughts on the new XZ25R, 250cc 4 cilinder engine, that Kawa anounced in Tokyo. Love the vid, cheers!
Bought this bike a month ago, loving it
I really like this bike's aesthetics. I'm taking my MSF this August and planning to buy a CB300r (or MT-03) as my "1st bike for baby." Once I'm experienced enough to ditch the training wheels, I want to get one of these, with the 2020/2021 black tank cover.
you aren't negative. you are realistic.
"I wouldn't recommend something like this for a beginner"
The thumbnail: "4-CYL BEGINNER BIKE?!?"
The slipery clucth its super easy and forgive the noobs down shifting, the power delivery its smooth, the brakes are good without lock the wheels thanks to the good ABS, the downsides, heavy bike for a new rider, and that engine really want to rev up.
@@AlexandreSantos-mn4sk he's talking about yammie noob's Noob words in the video
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@@AlexandreSantos-mn4sk i think its a pretty good beginner bike kind of like a very premium beginner bike
I did my training on one of these. Really awesome bike 😊
Nice review, maybe a bmw f750 gs next time?
Where's the link to download the pupper playlist that distracted me from listening to the QandA?
Agreed though, it's a beautiful bike. I'm debating grabbing one or jumping to the 1000 next.
... and now you know why old people get all misty-eyed about the CB400F.
I just bought mine today 2020 right out the crate!!! I take delivery of it in two days!!😆😆😆😆😆🤘🏻
Hope you are having a great time with it. I think i‘ll buy this one as my first bike 😍
Thanks again papa noob ......UR AWESOME
When are we getting an international giveaway Poppa Yams??😂
Probably never, he's said in the past that it would be a pain in the ass and expensive to send it to someone outside the US.
@@123jjfl I mean he could give an international winner budget and they'd go pick a motorcycle from a local dealership which is within the budget and all Yamie would have to do is wire transfer payments to the dealership.
But the only problem is he buys the motorcycles beforehand.
One of the best looking naked bikes, only slightly beaten by my Street Triple 765 😎
If I was 6, the graphics would be pretty impressive. I guess. The bike seems tached up but I couldn’t see the speed in relation to the sound, I can’t tell. Best of luck to you
Another great yet controversial video. The paint choices are spot on! My eyes actually feel better! Ty oh great yamyam.
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