Precision instrument shouldn’t be looked at as a damage perk, but more as a consistency perk. Before the health changes 120s could 2 crit 1 body any resilience, now the only way that’s possible is with PI. Which makes it much more forgiving, only other 120 that can get it is igneous. Not saying crimils is a kinetic igneous, because igneous is a stat monster. But am saying it made me put down my round robin with kill clip because of the consistency PI gives crimils. Great vid as always!
@@itztizzle makes sense, using perks that help you hit crits can be just as valuable as ones that still reward if you don’t. I stopped playing for a while and came back to round robin feeling like trash and leaving people with a sliver of health. Only to find out it wasn’t the gun, so PI crimils solved that issue for me.
I know that guiding sight isn't great on paper, but I think everyone should try it. I dropped 4 straight 30+ kill games (and got 1 we ran) with it yesterday after getting my first one as a drop on my dawnblade warlock. I find it to be surprisingly viable at short-mid range, and dominant at long ranges. I was consistently out-dueling red death users at distance. It's one of those guns where you can run around the outer perimeters or long sight line areas of maps and get the first 1-2 shots in on someone before they even realize they need to be worried about the angle you're at.
@@TitoRaudathis is the best smg in game. Ppl overhyping the raid smg and it’s totally mid, I crafted and played 2-3 strikes its mid. On the other hand, I did gm with multimach and felt it was like an exotic
After I dont know how many IB Engrams, finally got my personal 5/5 Point of the stag for PvP: Elastic, Compact Arrow Shaft (I love the quicker nock speed), Archer's Tempo, Precision Instrument, DT MW and enhanced. I'm generally a titan main, but I've been playing PvP with prismatic hunter lately, using Oathkeepers. I'm probably slightly below average player, but I was able to eek out 25 kills with it in a couple of matches. I use Rose w/Elemental Capacitor/OS for cleanups or close range scenarios. I see why people hated bow swapping lol.
12:52 rolled one last night it’s a beast in pve. Got it with drawspeed masterwork to 540 and enhanced traits for tempo and dragonfly it’s really fun to use. If the banner is too much I’d also recommend Hush from Gambit it’s recently gotten some love with tempo and incandescent
Arrowhead brake for the barrel is a great pick, because the recoil direction on the gun is trash, pair with a counterbalance mod brings it to 100. For mag ricochet is always my go to, and the MW i would go for range. Thats my overall 5/5 god roll. Could go for hammer forged on the barrel instead for a little extra range, but the recoil direction is more important for me.
Shout out to Jian-7 with DB lol. I used to rock that one a lot and swap to Izzy or Witherhoard as well. Also, the recoil on lethal abundance used to feel a lot better before the global changes on controller. I can't find the right recoil to start gunfights with great accuracy anymore. Over under KT shredddds in PVE btw
I've gotten some of these weapons on drops, but my title progress still says I have 0 weapons aquired from the Iron Banner. Someone know why that is? It's basically my first time doing PvP, thanks.
Seriously. I mean we have perks like FTTC, Triple Tap, Relentless Strikes, that all require some small activation requirement but depending on the weapon or perk combinations could get you infinite ammo. So having to do some weird tech to lineup a shot on a single target or otherwise need to hit 3+ targets with a single shot I felt made it pretty in-line with those other perks.
most IB weapons are overshadowed in PVE by other weapons with the same type/energy. for example, why I would ever use lethal abundance over rufus? Slice is the only differentiator if I need it to spawn tangles, but other than that - just no. or claws of the wolf with horrible reload speed over elsie which gets frenzy with max reload? or point of the stag when we have 2 good craftable arc bows for pve that said, both tusk and multimach have been standouts. the first one is the only strand waveframe with gets even more AoE with chain reaction the second one is imo best kinetic smg. while I don't value attrition orbs too much, it is still more useful than subsistence on submission and it has field tested origin and kinetic tremors or frenzy
Congrats on the sponsor 👏. This is a little over my head lol. Im trying not to overload my brain on too much info, found before that its ruined the fun for me in games like this. But obviously all these things are good knowledge. Im still pretty new, i play other games because burn out comes too quickly for me, even though this is one of the better games ive played. At 54 only been gaming for 4 years even gaming verbs was alot to take in lol. And as im an archer irl i do enjoy using bows in this game, but its crazy because this is the only game ive really enjoyed using a sniper rifle. Gaming is strange 😂
It would be better to just tell us which has the best perks,and highest tiers,instead of a bunch of information we won’t recall at the end of the video.
Unfortunately it doesn’t feel like i need to get a single roll on any of these weapons. Which also makes two week banner feel horrendous. This loot pool needs a serious facelift.
I've found pvp isn't as torture as some game's, try pvp in the Division2, now that is torture lol. I'm a new light and found pvp is real fun in this game. But that's jmo. Everyone's different.
I normally get tilted easily in competitive shooters, so I was hesitant to try D2 PvP at first, but it's a fun sandbox to fuck around in. It's hard to take seriously. I recommend trying it out.
Precision instrument shouldn’t be looked at as a damage perk, but more as a consistency perk. Before the health changes 120s could 2 crit 1 body any resilience, now the only way that’s possible is with PI. Which makes it much more forgiving, only other 120 that can get it is igneous. Not saying crimils is a kinetic igneous, because igneous is a stat monster. But am saying it made me put down my round robin with kill clip because of the consistency PI gives crimils. Great vid as always!
@@kylelawrence8558 yeah true. I just found, for me, it wasn’t that valuable on my igneous. Went back to my encore, eye of the storm roll
@@itztizzle makes sense, using perks that help you hit crits can be just as valuable as ones that still reward if you don’t. I stopped playing for a while and came back to round robin feeling like trash and leaving people with a sliver of health. Only to find out it wasn’t the gun, so PI crimils solved that issue for me.
Well, no. It gives damage and rewards consistent crits.
What is pi
@@wisdomb4086 precision instrument
Whats going on Tizzles, it's guardian here
I know that guiding sight isn't great on paper, but I think everyone should try it. I dropped 4 straight 30+ kill games (and got 1 we ran) with it yesterday after getting my first one as a drop on my dawnblade warlock.
I find it to be surprisingly viable at short-mid range, and dominant at long ranges. I was consistently out-dueling red death users at distance. It's one of those guns where you can run around the outer perimeters or long sight line areas of maps and get the first 1-2 shots in on someone before they even realize they need to be worried about the angle you're at.
Enhanced kinetic tremors really gives a ton of forgiveness in pvp. Helps secure kills if u don't only hit headshots
I’m not sure I’ve ever seen someone actually proc kinetic tremors before the person died in pvp.
@@tcritty2812 optimal ttk is 12 shots. Enhanced kinetic tremors procs on shot 13
@@tcritty2812, me, but I'm also the one dying..
I've got a try with it, just out of boredom and it procs, not yet enhanced tho.
Ooh. I’ve gotta farm one of these now. I rarely hit all crits with these fast-firing smgs
Nice vid Guardian.
Pure Destiny.
Straight up straight from the heart.
Good stuff, itzTizzle. Congrats on the sponsorship and discord channel!
Attrition orbs and kinetic tremors make the smg the greatest legendary primary ever
Facts
Facts!
I’m new. Is this a good pve roll?
@@TitoRaudahaven’t damage tested but theoretically it’s unlimited orbs of power due to kinetic tremors constantly proccing more hits
@@TitoRaudathis is the best smg in game. Ppl overhyping the raid smg and it’s totally mid, I crafted and played 2-3 strikes its mid. On the other hand, I did gm with multimach and felt it was like an exotic
Link to this site you’re using please.
What website is this?
Has anyone figured that out yet lol?
Congrats on the sponsorship, I love your content, especially when you add PvP stuff
What program or website is this that you’re using to do all these comparisons? It looks incredibly useful
D2foundry
It's call foundry
What is this program?
hey tizzle!! it was fun seeing you in the tower the other day! :3
yes it was! Good seeing you!
I got the claws with repulsor destabalizing, it feels so good in pve. Basically a legendary grav lance.
After I dont know how many IB Engrams, finally got my personal 5/5 Point of the stag for PvP: Elastic, Compact Arrow Shaft (I love the quicker nock speed), Archer's Tempo, Precision Instrument, DT MW and enhanced. I'm generally a titan main, but I've been playing PvP with prismatic hunter lately, using Oathkeepers. I'm probably slightly below average player, but I was able to eek out 25 kills with it in a couple of matches. I use Rose w/Elemental Capacitor/OS for cleanups or close range scenarios. I see why people hated bow swapping lol.
thanks for consistently helping us out and dropping great info to learn
What are the 22 iron banner weapons I'm 13/15 atm
12:52 rolled one last night it’s a beast in pve. Got it with drawspeed masterwork to 540 and enhanced traits for tempo and dragonfly it’s really fun to use. If the banner is too much I’d also recommend Hush from Gambit it’s recently gotten some love with tempo and incandescent
New player here, What Destiny 2 app is he using?
Also I've got a headseeker kill clip claws of the wolf and I love it. But I'm wondering what column 1 and 2 perks I need for consistency
Arrowhead brake for the barrel is a great pick, because the recoil direction on the gun is trash, pair with a counterbalance mod brings it to 100. For mag ricochet is always my go to, and the MW i would go for range. Thats my overall 5/5 god roll. Could go for hammer forged on the barrel instead for a little extra range, but the recoil direction is more important for me.
Thanks fam. Returning old head here and I'm trying to get into pvp for the first time
what's the name of the website you are using called?
Its called d2Foundry 👍
@@SuaveSnail d2foundry
@@itztizzle thanks :)
Lethal Abundance with Slice and Collective Action is great with Reaper mod in PvE
Shout out to Jian-7 with DB lol. I used to rock that one a lot and swap to Izzy or Witherhoard as well.
Also, the recoil on lethal abundance used to feel a lot better before the global changes on controller. I can't find the right recoil to start gunfights with great accuracy anymore.
Over under KT shredddds in PVE btw
I've gotten some of these weapons on drops, but my title progress still says I have 0 weapons aquired from the Iron Banner. Someone know why that is? It's basically my first time doing PvP, thanks.
slice on Tusk is great on hunter since you're constantly dodging anyways (plus you can dodge to reload), i have a Slice / Chain roll that rules lol
OH BUT WAIT there's more 🤣 I love it....reminded me of those old infomercials 😂😂 but seriously congrats on the sponsorship! LETS GOOO!
what website did you use to see the rolls and stuff?
that’s D2foundry
What website is this???
mobalytics is nice quality of life for D2! nice to hear :)
How about Discord/Harmony on Riiswalker for double shotty swapping?
@@zukie8082 you only get the ammo back on kill. But sure if you are doing it for add clear
Interesting they refreshed perk pools & not necessarily for the better 🤔
For criminals dagger are we feeling moving target + opening shot or zen moment?
@@codycrowe4880 I like zen moment
Sideways precision instrument
@@itztizzle thanks boys
Great video. This was very helpful
What’s the website you’re using for this?
D2Foundry
tbh trying to line up tusk's grenades on single targets or groups to get the infinite ammo was so much fun. rip deconstruct you did not deserve this
Seriously. I mean we have perks like FTTC, Triple Tap, Relentless Strikes, that all require some small activation requirement but depending on the weapon or perk combinations could get you infinite ammo.
So having to do some weird tech to lineup a shot on a single target or otherwise need to hit 3+ targets with a single shot I felt made it pretty in-line with those other perks.
most IB weapons are overshadowed in PVE by other weapons with the same type/energy.
for example, why I would ever use lethal abundance over rufus? Slice is the only differentiator if I need it to spawn tangles, but other than that - just no.
or claws of the wolf with horrible reload speed over elsie which gets frenzy with max reload?
or point of the stag when we have 2 good craftable arc bows for pve
that said, both tusk and multimach have been standouts.
the first one is the only strand waveframe with gets even more AoE with chain reaction
the second one is imo best kinetic smg. while I don't value attrition orbs too much, it is still more useful than subsistence on submission and it has field tested origin and kinetic tremors or frenzy
Very nice video!
also CONGRATS ON THE SPONSOR! making moves :)
@@denny8422 thank you!
If POTS had volt shot I’d be farming
Same. It'll probably be in the next act or two that they release some other more accessible bow with voltshot
Try iron gaze iron reach.... Busted
I thought Discord got a heavy nerf and now pulls from reserves?😊
@@KaiHarizor probably thinking of deconstruct
@@itztizzleyou are right. I have definitely deleted rolls that I wanted because I keep mixing those up. 😢
what the name of this website?
would like to know too. looks like a good source of information
ok in another comment it says "d2foundry"
D2 Foundry
Congrats on the sponsor 👏. This is a little over my head lol. Im trying not to overload my brain on too much info, found before that its ruined the fun for me in games like this. But obviously all these things are good knowledge. Im still pretty new, i play other games because burn out comes too quickly for me, even though this is one of the better games ive played. At 54 only been gaming for 4 years even gaming verbs was alot to take in lol. And as im an archer irl i do enjoy using bows in this game, but its crazy because this is the only game ive really enjoyed using a sniper rifle. Gaming is strange 😂
wassup Tizzle
It would be better to just tell us which has the best perks,and highest tiers,instead of a bunch of information we won’t recall at the end of the video.
I have a repulsor destabilising rounds maahes and pulse, and I swear it works like 20% of the time
Anyone else?
Anyone else constantly getting primary weapons?
Let's goooo
I dunno heavy scout feels like shit right now ... just good luck to kill some dent head gurdian to proc kill clip ...
first some1 has to give me a reason to play pvp
Ok
Not playing IB ever it’s not worth it
Unfortunately it doesn’t feel like i need to get a single roll on any of these weapons. Which also makes two week banner feel horrendous. This loot pool needs a serious facelift.
Counterpoint: I have to play Iron Banana. So no weapons :(
Just playing PVE in destiny is boring af. You’ll be okay go get in banner
@@dregudda6395 nah, pvp is actual torture
I've found pvp isn't as torture as some game's, try pvp in the Division2, now that is torture lol. I'm a new light and found pvp is real fun in this game. But that's jmo. Everyone's different.
I normally get tilted easily in competitive shooters, so I was hesitant to try D2 PvP at first, but it's a fun sandbox to fuck around in. It's hard to take seriously. I recommend trying it out.
Funny of u to assume I can hit crits
Non ce un singolo god roll perché a seconda di cosa si affronta tra pve e pvp ci sono alternative.
Quindi non serve
What for do i need them? I already have 8 years of YOU NEED THIS ROLL ASAP of content in my warehouse.
Keep them coming
Anyone else constantly getting primary weapons?