I gotta disagree with the call for bns withering gaze, it just seems too clunky with weapon swaps and having to wait for the weaken, im personally aiming for wg+frenzy for gms, and an arsenal bns one for team dps
100% agree with you. In GMs a stun only lasts 5 seconds. If I have to rotate through all weapons and then wait for the withering gaze proc, that champ is out of stun. I will either use BnS or WG for the damage bonus, but not both, so I can get the kill in one stun.
You would stun the champ with one of the weapons used to swap, it's all about optimization and I assume you could proc withering haze while charging up which adds to the fluidity of the perk@@ilosinski
Glacioclasm could actually be nasty with withering gaze. On fusions, you can precharge the shot, and withering gaze can still activate so it's faster procs then most other weapons cause you don't have to wait for the visual buff.
I get it in the linear since it’s 3rd column and you can still get a damage perk, but sacrificing that on the glacioclasm just doesn’t feel worth it to me.
I'd bet money that Lego will recommend Fluted Barrel, Projection Fuse, Under Pressure/Closing Time with a Charge Time MW (and is the roll I would keep if I liked high impacts for pvp but I'm more of a rapid/precision fan). This roll gives near 100 Range >and< Handling with 60-70 Stability iirc.
Withering gaze is rarely worth it on a heavy weapon, you're giving up a reload perk, where all of heavy weapon's DPS comes from, for a debuff that can be applied by a special weapon or your subclass kit. It's really not a good pick, jsut use a special weapon with it if you desperately need it or want ut
I was thinking withering gaze + bns for the new linear too but I think it’ll be too clunky easily for a heavy. I think withering gaze will shine best on something like a scout or a void rocket sidearm. A weapon you can start the damage rotation with so everything after flows better. Having to pause to wait for the perk to activate will drastically throw off timing especially in gms and solo top tier content. I wish this perk worked similarly to chill clip, where the top half of ammo applied weaken instead of having to pause before shooting.
For Stay Frosty, I’ll naturally go for Rimestealer Headstone, but I’m still glad I kept an old old roll of Thresh and Golden Tricorn. Better still that the old roll there is able to be enhanced as well.
Ahh dang you have the true godroll pvp frosty. I ended up sharding my desperado cause Kc was just better. Desperado sounded so cool though. Awesome recommendations, thank you as always!
Mistral Lift Small Bore, Accelerated Coil, Withering Gaze, Frenzy with a Stability Masterwork. Looking at this for my utility Roll, that way I get 100 Handling and Reload Speed. That way I can focus on the other stats. Otherwise, Fluted Barrel, Accelerated Coil, Envious Arsenal, Bait and Switch.
I have been sitting on the auto loading + cascade roll for a long time. Glad it was at least mentioned. Although part of me wishes bungie would get more experimental with perks on niche weapon types. LMGs for the most part boil down to you're a "thunderlord kid", for whatever reason you just don't like explosive based heavies regardless of how good they are at any given time, or you love running double special so the LMG is basically your primary. We need more perks that shake up the game for lmgs as a whole just like swords, glaives, and bows all need new perks specifically for them not just another drawtime scaler perk or a perk that is very specifically tied to melees but doesn't interact well with glaive melees. Its a space magic game, do something magical with the perks. While I'm talking about this its a crime that bungie doesn't make new weapons to go with reprised season weapons because imagine we got a season of the dawn themed glaive wth the origin trait. It could have been modeled after the twilight arsenal axe and had something like swashbuckler and close to melee together. Would have been sick.
I originally was going to most likely pass on the dawning weapons HOWEVER all of that changed when I heard what the origin trait is. HOLYYYYY that is really good and with the amount of ads we get in content now a days that will pop offfff
I bet Glacioclasm is going to be the bane of my existence in PvP for the forseeable future 😅 Definitely going to try get a Withering Gaze + BNS Mistral Lift I'm curious to try it my solo dungeon builds
What nobody is talking about in the community that I’ve seen is Bungie quietly added a seventh perk this season in 3rd and 4th columns to further increase the weapon grind to piggyback off of your Bungie doesn’t listen to the community video from the other day. 1/49 chance instead of 1/36
What if u don't want to use a sniper U can't say "oh don't use that just use this AND that" because the sniper isn't the best and only have use when your doing dps with it after your heavy, which u can use an exotic primary and get more
I have an encore headstone stay frosty which feels great, but looking to upgrade to a rhimestealer headstone. One other reason i feel like these weapons are worth the grind is the buffed origin trait. now its not kills within a short time, but just kills in general, and that present gives you energy to all your abilities, health, AND starts health regen. just feel so great to use in PVE
I'm gonna be going for the LFR and the Glacioclasm with Withering Gaze. I already have 3 Stay Frosty's, one being the original version, and the other two being from last year. I already have an Albedo Wing that I really love, so I'm not interested. I wish Cold Front got some love(should be Stasis imo w chill clip), but there's always that one event weapon left out for some reason, like Horror Story from the recent FOTL(it wasn't even enhancable lmao). I already have a good Avalanche, but maybe I can snag another idk. At least there will be cookies and snowballs😂
If I am not mistaken, they update all fusions and accelerated doesn’t decrease dps? I forget if that change was applied to heavy linear fusion rifles tho
@@TheMax107 same. I got a spirit of Osiomancy with spirit of starfire class item thinking it was gonna be gas. Turns out despite having two separate exotic traits getting you grenade regeneration, it’s still faster to run HOIL. So lame.
i want the auto loading/incan roll for avalance. Did not get it last year sadly (wouldve been real handy during season of the wish) I got the sub/incan roll but thats just not it imho. doenst play very wel.
I would argue avalanche has always been good but not meta defining. I mean you gotta think people actively ignored the one that dropped from trials because they already had avalanche. Plus people need to stop sleeping on the one that dropped from the last episode and fixed odds. Both are pretty ok in terms of heavies you don't really have to think about but aren't exactly redefining the meta.
@@ShadowNemesis575 I just hate playing trials. I'm a consummate dad gamer, so I'll never be able to, "git gud." As for Speleologist, it really needs adagio to be manageable. Granted, it is really good like that, but that cuts incandescent out of the picture, which is what I want.
Brother, I know these are your god rolls but this was a whole lot of misinformation. Withering gaze on a heavy is such a waste of a perk, HIR doesnt benefit Glacio at all, the MW you want for Mistral Lift is Charge Time so it doesnt hit your damage and either enhanced battery or ionized for the extra round in the mag. The ALH, Cascade roll for the GL is buns when Chill Inhibitor Cascade/BnS exists which is also a better frame than adaptive
You couldn't have just waited a bit until you had those weapons, to give more accurate details ? Soon we will have these videos right after the event is over, detailing the next years rolls.
Lots of salty, jaded, and “derp” comments on this video, which is lame. Tizzle - your recommendations for perks on these weapons are spot-on. Thank you for throwing this together, and for explaining why you’re interested in each of the perk combos you’re recommending.
Withering gaze is very good on a high impact fusion, because of the charge time it will be the fastest you can pull the trigger on any gun with that perk
Good weapons is something i can't care less with my vault flooded with enormous amount of different guns i'm never using I'm so tired of mindless farming at least in D2
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I gotta disagree with the call for bns withering gaze, it just seems too clunky with weapon swaps and having to wait for the weaken, im personally aiming for wg+frenzy for gms, and an arsenal bns one for team dps
Totally DISAGREE
Agree with Tizzle
Withering Gaze B&S will be FANTASTIC for SOLO content/content where you don't have an easy way to access weaken😅😅😊
@@FalloutFan011this ^
100% agree with you. In GMs a stun only lasts 5 seconds. If I have to rotate through all weapons and then wait for the withering gaze proc, that champ is out of stun. I will either use BnS or WG for the damage bonus, but not both, so I can get the kill in one stun.
Agree
You would stun the champ with one of the weapons used to swap, it's all about optimization and I assume you could proc withering haze while charging up which adds to the fluidity of the perk@@ilosinski
Glacioclasm could actually be nasty with withering gaze. On fusions, you can precharge the shot, and withering gaze can still activate so it's faster procs then most other weapons cause you don't have to wait for the visual buff.
The dungeon fusion has what you want. But this is a nice replacement for people who don't have the dungeon
The one from Vespers dungeon was too much of hit marker machine in PvP. Glacio always seems to slap especially from distance
I get it in the linear since it’s 3rd column and you can still get a damage perk, but sacrificing that on the glacioclasm just doesn’t feel worth it to me.
If you play fusion rifles you should know that you charge at the hip and quickly ADS when you fire.
Withering is garbage.
@@sirloin7633 or you could use the perk and just not do that
I'd bet money that Lego will recommend Fluted Barrel, Projection Fuse, Under Pressure/Closing Time with a Charge Time MW (and is the roll I would keep if I liked high impacts for pvp but I'm more of a rapid/precision fan). This roll gives near 100 Range >and< Handling with 60-70 Stability iirc.
Withering gaze is rarely worth it on a heavy weapon, you're giving up a reload perk, where all of heavy weapon's DPS comes from, for a debuff that can be applied by a special weapon or your subclass kit. It's really not a good pick, jsut use a special weapon with it if you desperately need it or want ut
I was thinking withering gaze + bns for the new linear too but I think it’ll be too clunky easily for a heavy. I think withering gaze will shine best on something like a scout or a void rocket sidearm. A weapon you can start the damage rotation with so everything after flows better. Having to pause to wait for the perk to activate will drastically throw off timing especially in gms and solo top tier content. I wish this perk worked similarly to chill clip, where the top half of ammo applied weaken instead of having to pause before shooting.
For Stay Frosty, I’ll naturally go for Rimestealer Headstone, but I’m still glad I kept an old old roll of Thresh and Golden Tricorn. Better still that the old roll there is able to be enhanced as well.
Ahh dang you have the true godroll pvp frosty. I ended up sharding my desperado cause Kc was just better. Desperado sounded so cool though.
Awesome recommendations, thank you as always!
Mistral Lift
Small Bore, Accelerated Coil, Withering Gaze, Frenzy with a Stability Masterwork.
Looking at this for my utility Roll, that way I get 100 Handling and Reload Speed. That way I can focus on the other stats.
Otherwise,
Fluted Barrel, Accelerated Coil, Envious Arsenal, Bait and Switch.
Exactly what I am after also
I have been sitting on the auto loading + cascade roll for a long time. Glad it was at least mentioned. Although part of me wishes bungie would get more experimental with perks on niche weapon types. LMGs for the most part boil down to you're a "thunderlord kid", for whatever reason you just don't like explosive based heavies regardless of how good they are at any given time, or you love running double special so the LMG is basically your primary. We need more perks that shake up the game for lmgs as a whole just like swords, glaives, and bows all need new perks specifically for them not just another drawtime scaler perk or a perk that is very specifically tied to melees but doesn't interact well with glaive melees. Its a space magic game, do something magical with the perks. While I'm talking about this its a crime that bungie doesn't make new weapons to go with reprised season weapons because imagine we got a season of the dawn themed glaive wth the origin trait. It could have been modeled after the twilight arsenal axe and had something like swashbuckler and close to melee together. Would have been sick.
I originally was going to most likely pass on the dawning weapons HOWEVER all of that changed when I heard what the origin trait is. HOLYYYYY that is really good and with the amount of ads we get in content now a days that will pop offfff
You definitely want Closing Time on any new PvP special weapons. CT gives some massive buffs that shouldn't be overlooked
I bet Glacioclasm is going to be the bane of my existence in PvP for the forseeable future 😅 Definitely going to try get a Withering Gaze + BNS Mistral Lift I'm curious to try it my solo dungeon builds
What nobody is talking about in the community that I’ve seen is Bungie quietly added a seventh perk this season in 3rd and 4th columns to further increase the weapon grind to piggyback off of your Bungie doesn’t listen to the community video from the other day. 1/49 chance instead of 1/36
Nice overview, I'll be going for, the fusion (again), linear fusion and LMG.
Withering gaze on Mistral Lift is the biggest cope ever jus use a void sniper for debuff and then get the QoL envious arsenal
What if u don't want to use a sniper
U can't say "oh don't use that just use this AND that" because the sniper isn't the best and only have use when your doing dps with it after your heavy, which u can use an exotic primary and get more
@LadyJadeThe2nd yeah whatever tf you just said I'm gonna ignore, withering on a heavy is pure unjustifiable cope
Hey. Thanks for going back over the origin traits. Good call
Honestly I’m just looking to fool around with cold steel again. I like swords and glaives.
I have an encore headstone stay frosty which feels great, but looking to upgrade to a rhimestealer headstone.
One other reason i feel like these weapons are worth the grind is the buffed origin trait. now its not kills within a short time, but just kills in general, and that present gives you energy to all your abilities, health, AND starts health regen. just feel so great to use in PVE
Idk how I feel about Mistral Lift even as utility, LFR just haven’t had a place for me in a long time
I think Scntillation is the GM weapon this week
I'm gonna be going for the LFR and the Glacioclasm with Withering Gaze.
I already have 3 Stay Frosty's, one being the original version, and the other two being from last year.
I already have an Albedo Wing that I really love, so I'm not interested.
I wish Cold Front got some love(should be Stasis imo w chill clip), but there's always that one event weapon left out for some reason, like Horror Story from the recent FOTL(it wasn't even enhancable lmao).
I already have a good Avalanche, but maybe I can snag another idk.
At least there will be cookies and snowballs😂
If I am not mistaken, they update all fusions and accelerated doesn’t decrease dps? I forget if that change was applied to heavy linear fusion rifles tho
Does incandescent also procc rewind rounds? If it does, might be even better than subsistence.
Is it to much to ask for a demo incondestent solar machine gun 😭
That's NASTY 😂
No because they are afraid of solar verity’s brow for some reason.
@michaelferrarini1463 I just want old Starfire back
@@TheMax107 same. I got a spirit of Osiomancy with spirit of starfire class item thinking it was gonna be gas. Turns out despite having two separate exotic traits getting you grenade regeneration, it’s still faster to run HOIL. So lame.
I’m going for the linear but that will be if. I have my god rolls of each weapons from last season.
i want the auto loading/incan roll for avalance. Did not get it last year sadly (wouldve been real handy during season of the wish) I got the sub/incan roll but thats just not it imho. doenst play very wel.
So glad to be getting a good solar lmg for a change.
Edit: Speleologist isn't great without adagio, and I can't play trials with any success.
I would argue avalanche has always been good but not meta defining. I mean you gotta think people actively ignored the one that dropped from trials because they already had avalanche. Plus people need to stop sleeping on the one that dropped from the last episode and fixed odds. Both are pretty ok in terms of heavies you don't really have to think about but aren't exactly redefining the meta.
It's been here before I use it with subsistence and incandescent all the time wdym?
Why would you use avalanche when Unwavering Duty exists?
@@LuisGonzalez-k4j4c cuz avalanche can be enhanced
@@ShadowNemesis575 I just hate playing trials. I'm a consummate dad gamer, so I'll never be able to, "git gud." As for Speleologist, it really needs adagio to be manageable. Granted, it is really good like that, but that cuts incandescent out of the picture, which is what I want.
Yeah, seems to be 3 weapons with tasty perks.
I have rewind incandescent and target lock I will be chasing cascade
Brother, I know these are your god rolls but this was a whole lot of misinformation. Withering gaze on a heavy is such a waste of a perk, HIR doesnt benefit Glacio at all, the MW you want for Mistral Lift is Charge Time so it doesnt hit your damage and either enhanced battery or ionized for the extra round in the mag. The ALH, Cascade roll for the GL is buns when Chill Inhibitor Cascade/BnS exists which is also a better frame than adaptive
Alh cascade is for the lmg. There are no gls in his vid.
@ANON_security_program @ANON_security_program You're right, my b. It's a buns roll on both an lmg and a GL
@@conconkelly16 I definitely agree with you on that.
Did bungie fix avalanches ammo reserves?
Hello, how can i get rhe engrams ?
i don’t think anyone would ever want a single roll highlighted in this video. insane
Well, you’re wrong about that.
You couldn't have just waited a bit until you had those weapons, to give more accurate details ? Soon we will have these videos right after the event is over, detailing the next years rolls.
Great vid
I don’t care WHO bungie sends im NOT using glaives
Lots of salty, jaded, and “derp” comments on this video, which is lame.
Tizzle - your recommendations for perks on these weapons are spot-on. Thank you for throwing this together, and for explaining why you’re interested in each of the perk combos you’re recommending.
Withering gaze is very good on a high impact fusion, because of the charge time it will be the fastest you can pull the trigger on any gun with that perk
Ur gl can cause weaken
None of the weapons are dropping for me
Chill Clip Machine Gun when??
Nothing interests me here. I wished they switched albedo wing to stasis or kinetic. Nezarecs whisper is a better arc glaive
god damn these all suck 😭 i guess ill pick up the linear even tho i have the scintillation godroll but nothing else is that notable
Good weapons is something i can't care less with my vault flooded with enormous amount of different guns i'm never using
I'm so tired of mindless farming at least in D2
Womp womp
Are they bringing back crafting?
No news as of yet 🤷🏼♂️
2nd 🦊 da best
first
Will get the armor and I'm done, nothings interesting
Soooo the only guide you need to have is STOP GRIDING YOU CAN CRAFT BETTER STUFF GO PLAY POE2
No.
Well another Event that forces you to play every FREE minute just to get a ok roll 😐
Would be nice to get a primary weapon with chill clip ffs
if it's random rolls i ain't going for it
Dawning weapons have always been random.
Why bother with Destiny then?