Is the Fisker Ocean a SCAM?
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- The Fisker Ocean story is almost too hard to believe.
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Chapter Titles:
0:00 The Decline of Fisker
0:56 Fisker Showroom
2:43 What is Fisker?
3:38 Trying to Order
5:13 Success...?
7:15 The Slow Process
8:03 Big Issues
9:50 What Went Wrong 
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Honestly buying random items from Teemu seems like a much safer deal now.
he is the most succesful finnish ice hockey player of all time.
@@Combba6bro temu is a Chinese company like ali express he’s not talking about a hockey player
Well Fiska is owned by the Chinese
Well, temp doesn't sponsor like fisker.
@@Combba6Finnish Flash!!
There’s a fisker dealer near San Diego that seems quite literally abandoned. I visited at noon on a Saturday, and the entire lot was covered in dust. The only person on the property was a security guard who could tell me that nobody was there 😭
You mean like no one was in the sales department?
@@user-nw1wc1jo4lif the lot is covered in grime and dust, then I don't think there were any salesmen able to sell any cars
It's not a dealer it's where they store Oceans.
I pass by that Vista location often. It’s a sad place lol
Its actually a rebranded BMW dealership.
Insane how a company that was hyped up to be the next big thing back in 2012 failed, and was given over a decade to try again, the. just failed again.
It’s owned by a Chinese emoting company so they probably don’t care
@@CricketEnglandit isn’t, that was henrik fisker’s previous company and his new company is a mess of his own
Hemlo floofy
Failed ?? Henrik ran away with hundreds of millions of dollars.
@@CricketEngland As above it was not Chinese owned, they have now bought the name after the bankruptcy.
Im a good friend of someone in upper management there. The price slash, wasn't to make money so that they can survive. Its ONLY to get rid of the units they have built, or parts. They don't want to be stuck with anything.
damn, that's crazy.
I've seen many companies close down with tons of inventory that just got left in the building or were just given away. In the end it's money lost
Either way it’s still to make money
@@andrebillups4079 you gotta spend money to make money and this company already lost a lot of money so you gotta recoup as much as you can after that loss.
Crazy thing is how are people going to get parts for a car that's not being made anymore? Does the warranty hold weight and if so who's going to supply that demand?
You just tipped their hand. They about file bankruptcy. Lol
Damn 14 minutes of blue balls
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Muh balls red
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Se rajo 😅
As far as the buying and shipping process, its easy to understand how overwhelming it would be for the base employees after a 50% cut in price. The CEOs dont care about a few weeks of rush for them.
A ton of early Fisker employees bought Ocean Ones…. Imagine giving the company you work for $70k, then the vehicle depreciates to half its value, then they lay you off…..
😂 😂 😂 Then depreciates even more
Just bought a Fisker Ocean at a fire sale. Now waiting for the fire department to show up
lmao (laughing my ass off)
@@Genny_Wooit’s not that funny
Yes it is 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@CricketEngland
ROFL (Roll On Floor Laughing) @@Genny_Woo
@@Genny_Wooyou’re an npc (non playable character)
Fiskers don't make noise when they start up, just so you know
Childish gambino.
TOP OF THE ******* TOTEM RICH RICH RICH RICH FOREVER MY FATHER OWNED HALF OF MOMA AND DID IT WITH NO DIPLOMA
No shit
@@kennyhartsook2977 joke went over your head huh? lmao
It was pretty sad but their software is so buggy and the cars are pretty ugly
I think Dankpods would be getting the 1 grit out. This is the ultimate Electric Nugget
Huh???
Good on ya m8!
@@user-nw1wc1jo4ldankpods (RUclips channel) looks at junky electronics and frequently smashes them with a rock called 1 grit
Gonna knock down a couple pkcells with this nugget
Dankpods needs to make a video on this car I wanna hear his opinions and insults
The channel fans in the Fisker dealership: omg Austin what are you doing here I love your channel!!!
Austin: damn it you just sold me out
This is yet another reason why I refuse to buy in to anything as an early adopter or in early access...
As someone who regularly pays the early adopter tax, this is egregious. I bought the framework 13 AMD edition on launch. It was a mess but it was a functional product, and I was actually able to buy one. I purchased first gen AMD ryzen on launch. It was a buggy mess and it needed a lot of improvement, but I could buy one. I have uaed Radeon GPUs in servers and now in my gaming PC for a while now. They're buggy messes, but I can at least buy them. With fisker, you can't even fucking buy their product. Like, originally it was just a buggy mess and it needed improvement but now you can't even get a damn car.
Fisker failed once. Really there was nothing to show that Henrik Fisker did much differently. The details matter and one should always do their homework when being an early adopter. I often do use early products...but I usually do enough research that I go into it eyes wide open.
EVs are not early products now. But Fisker Ocean was a gamble from a company that had too many vendors to pay with too much of a margin of failure. Rivian and Lucid had more than enough runway where they could withstand early issues and early low numbers. Fisker from the beginning didn't have enough and was very clear they didn't have enough from the start. You don't take the gamble yourself if you have limited funds on a large purchase like this.
Broad rules are usually stupid....an informed adaptable mindset is usually best
You can be an early adopter/access to something like a video game or something not so major/serious if you feel strongly about it but early access/adopter of a car is insane considering safety not only to you but other people on the road. The problem with this company is you can't release cars like this on an alpha build 💀
I was excited to hear about a $25,000 small electric SUV, but when I realized that the Ultra and the Extreme were so closely priced after the discounts, I knew they didn't have any of the Sports. Why would you price the Sport at $10,000 under the mid-tier? The only explanation is for marketing. They knew there were no Sport models available, so they priced it at a point that seemed low enough for consumers who are unsure of electric cars still, but high enough that it didn't sound like a complete, outright lie.
There are far better cheap options now arriving certainly now arriving in Europe at least the new Citroen 3c3 is supposed to be about 25,000 euros not as plush as the Fisker but at least it'll work and you'll geta warranty. The new Fiat 600 La Prima starts at £26,000and the 500 at £28,000.
@@norfolkngood8960 I will agree that in other markets, more options are available, but not all are necessarily better options. The Citroen 3c3 scored 0 stars safety rating by the NCAP. At the time of this comment, I believe the Fisker Ocean and the Fiat 600 are untested.
However, in the US market, we don't have a ton of reliable, long range options. The cheapest new electric vehicle currently is the Nissan Leaf, which still runs $29,000 with a range of 149 miles. If you live rural and drive to work every day, you can easily out range 149 miles a day, especially considering electric cars are less efficient at highway speeds. Between the lack of a good charging network and battery degradation on lower range electric cars, many Americans want higher ranges.
Ultimately though, opting for something over over 200 miles means the cheapest option starts at $36,000. Given everything going on right now, many Americans just can't afford to pay that kind of money for a car, so we stick with ICE vehicles, which is disappointing, but what can you do. Hybrids exist, but companies keep putting CVT transmissions into them without fixing the issues that are leaving many owners in rentals for months at a time (unfortunately that comes from experience).
Thank you for taking the time to inform viewers of shady practices.
I'm sure there's a Fisker insider somewhere that would be willing to spill the beans.
There will be plenty in a month once they file bankruptcy and the non disclosure papers are not even worthy to be toilet roll, a company breaching its contract by not paying its staff nor existing isnt capable of enforcing non disclosure so then there will be hundreds willing to speak.. Austin could probably even get the same guy who sold it to him to come on follow up
I'm pretty sure there will be a book or two.
Just wait until the company goes bankrupt and the NDAs are null and void.
There is a dealer I visit every so often because they sell a lot of high end cars, but they also get these completely random cars sometimes. They had both the Cybertruck and a Fisker Ocean at the same time. To be honest, the Fisker in person does look pretty clean. But based off of all the reviews and drama, it seems that’s probably the only redeemable thing. I did think the video of one of the higher ups trying to contact Marques was pretty funny.
That's because Henrik is a great designer . But a great businessman he is not.
I agree, I think design looks amazing. I own a Model Y and I would rather have the design look of an ocean. But the Software of a Tesla
@@SuperSxeMatt see if we can come up with this why can't they... They should try and court each other and legally everybody will be happy. Elon will get properly designed beautiful cars and so will we and Henrik will get paid with no rush of running the company into the ground
@@JamaicanMeCrazy I think Tesla's look great, im a little different and not a super fan of the new refresh model 3. But I think the Ocean appeals to people however there's a lot of small issues which leads to big issues with the car. I think the company is being ran terrible and will hopefully be bought out by someone.
How ironic that a CAR company struggled selling a CAR. Like what are they doing?
That’s all electric vehicles. The fad is coming to an end and people are realizing ev’s are stupid, the future is not electric even tesla is suffering.
Fisher is owned by a Chinese company so what do you expect
@@CricketEngland yeah u right
@@CricketEngland henrik fisker isn't chinese and magna-steyr, the manufacturers, are austrian, wdym?
They went bust in the past too, google the fisker karma.
The donut shirt in this episode is chef's kiss
Fisker cooking some books
Great video! Love to see more like these
I'm glad your cover as a youtubers was blown. We know some people treat youtubers better for publicity but you got the reach around.
I had a chance to look at one of these extreme models in person and I’m honestly bummed that the company failed. The shape is cool like a Range Rover, faster than cars usually that size it being electric, and all the tech in there seemed cool even though I’m a tactile button guy
Happened over here in the UK, used Fiskers including the Extreme are around £40,000 when you can pick up a Sport model (yes, a sport model) for £32,000
I can't believe Austin was willing to buy a car but not saloon doors for the office
Thank you for making a video like this. I have known about the issues with Fisker for a while now.
Hopefully if Fisker will do the right thing and open source the car software so people in the community can attempt to fix it. But I doubt that they will and a ton of people will be stuck with perfectly good cars with broken software that will never be fixed. Most of which will end up in a landfill once the owners get tired of dealing with all of the software issues. When a company goes bankrupt it should be required by law that the source code for the software used in that product to be open sourced so that the community can continue support if they want.
I cant wait for the price to go down below 15k
will never happen.
@@user-nw1wc1jo4loh it will secondhand when you take depreciation into the equation
What would it matter since they don't even have one to sell anyway?
@@user-nw1wc1jo4lFisker Karma MSRP was around $100,000. The average price for a used one is around $32,000. That’s nearly 70% devalued of its original price. The fisker ocean already devalued around 40% of its original price tag (for the spec Austin was shopping for). You can expect it to be as low as that price in a couple years because there would be no demand for consumers since other automakers provide better EVs for a better value.
@@user-nw1wc1jo4l In Sweden there is an Extreme version (with 5.000 miles) listed at USD17' (excl. VAT) on a dealer auction this tuesday. I am pretty sure no one will make a bid. So below 15k is not very far away.
Fisker is what Tesla is becoming. Rushing out with unfinished products. I'd say the software problems with the Cybertruck are much more dangerous.
It's always the upper-management that ruins a company; a sales rep won't be able to destroy the company that they work for. Even if they hated the company and wanted to, they simply don't have the power to do so.
Don’t underestimate the impact front line workers have. Upper management is obviously the one driving the ship but the people who are having the day to day interactions with customers are who ultimately leave the biggest impression. Companies like Tesla work because of their creepy cult-like following that was built from the small things.
Yup
More of these videos please!
Now you got me thinking to check out my local Dealership here in Vista Ca. They moved into abuilding that BMW moved from back last November . They looked busy for 2 months . I still see 15 or so cars out front but read the building is abandoned all ready. I drive past it 2 or 3 times a week but never went to check them out. Bike trip...
Ha ... perfect. Wanted to hear your thoughts on this! Saved me a trip to the Grove.
Fisker is so sad. First the Karma. Absolutely wonderful car, but it failed miserably. And now the Ocean, and the sane thing. I really want Fisker to succeed, but they just can never get anything right.
This was a great video 😁
This video stressed Austin so much, he missed his Barbers appointment 😂😂
The Fisker cars are being produced in Austria - Graz. There have been new for months that the Production line will close...
Hard to comprehend why anyone would pay $70K or so for a "car" from a company with no track record of producing vehicles. Particularly when the head honcho of that company has already failed at producing a functioning vehicle.
Fisker is older than what you mentioned. It started in 07 and first made the Karma. It failed by 2011. Company went bankrupt and all assets for the karma bought by a Chinese investment company who still makes Karma under Karma Automtive. Fisker, the name and man behind the company kept logo and name, new Fisker Inc was launched in 2018
When I worked for Fisker They only had the Ocean one , Extreme, and Ultra but sport was supposed to come in mid-March but sadly I was laid off management was not great there was no communication at all the people I worked with the technicians were amazing group of people I worked with at Buena Park. If you have a fisker in SoCal they just closed the service center in Huntington Beach, but you can walk in at La Palma delivery center.
And yes. This kind of videos does not help the company and therefore not the car owners.
I have memories of driving the Fisker Karma in Gran Turismo 6 and thinking it was a pretty decent concept, and then I heard nothing about them for years until MKBHD made his video about the Ocean. It's a shame they're falling apart because I think they had some good ideas, but just struggled with the execution of them.
I Love Austin Evans Videos ☮️💟
If it smells like a hustle it's a hustle. Thank you Austin for the PSA on the brand.
I love the new direction this channel is taking, makes me feel excited for every new upload again! Austin on the ground is awesome
I saw one at a charger the other day after seeing Marques' video and could just think "oof." And then saw one for sale on FB Marketplace for $55 from a guy who's listing said "do some research on what I have before messaging" lmao
Did you mean $55k instead of 55 dollars?
Got to feel for the staff. I'm sure people across sales, delivery, support, and manufacturing have been working their buts off, not only to keep their paycheck coming for a few more weeks or get one more commission but also because they hoped if they could get enough sales over the line, it could save the company in the medium term.
It seems they're not trying to draw to much attention internationally about the issues, steep depreciation or how in the USA they've halved the cost of the top vehicle... On Fisker's UK website, that car Austin spec out is still retailing for £68,945 - There's no discounts as far as I could see over here.
The Extreme's in-stock in the UK are about £43k and the Ultras about £42 k. They have about 40 discounted 2023 cars for sale on the UK site. Similar discounts in Europe aswell. For some reason Fisker decided to ship the majority of the 2023 units all the way to the US, which is why the discounts there are much larger.
Ashton Kutcher drove a Fisker during his first season on Two and a Half Men. So this will be it's second blow up!
Great car it drives just awesome. A FOE owner 😊
So it's like the fisker karma all over again
Fisker in 2012: * builds a car, creates massive hype and sells a marginal amount of cars before going bankrupt *
Fisker 10 years later: "I'll f*cking do it again!"
Man that's wild that a company that would assume would want people's money, didn't even take yours on the spot until a few weeks later.
They never took his money, he decided not to buy it....
Fisker died once of bad quality, and now will again. Please guys give us more car videos, or even make a channel just for them!!
third time over going bankrupt and they yet to have learned.
@@rileyn54 Well Trump did 6 bankruptcies and ended up President so maybe that's his aim....
how come you always got donut media shirts on? love it
i thought fisker made scissors
confirmed. Austin is now an secret Agent for the good of humans!
I remember watching the first fisker from like 2010-2011 and they looked cool but I quickly watched them fail and shut down. Was surprised to see them come back and it looks like they are doing the same thing again
You might want to clarify Fisker Automotive from the main Fisker company which is a multi-million dollar a year company😂
Theres one of these dirt cheap where im at..was honestly tempted to buy it...glad i listened to my gut
austin just wanted a fisker lol. and realized alot of people got scammed lmao. fisker is only good at designing cars but not be a manufacturer, why people thought this would be successful is beyond me.
Back when I was getting a new car (about a year ago) these were being heavily advertised and I'm so glad I took the safe option and didn't bet on a new manufacturer and just went with my Hyundai ioniq 5
Damn Austin really had to swap the photo of the video! 😂
This SUV looks cool, hard to believe there's nobody there to continue the company.
Even applying for a job with them when they first opened up their Chelsea location for the showroom was difficult. All of their auto fill selections didn't work and you had to double input your resume even if you uploaded it.
Having to enter the info on your resume again is not uncommon. Most resume parsers are just bad.
You're just describing any job application website.
They don't have, and have never had, a Chelsea location.
@matpat2636 yes they do. Theyre on hudson street and 14th Street next to the apple store.
@@jagenigma 🤣🤣🤣 You mean the NYC store!!! I thought you meant Chelsea in London! Sorry. 😉
Are the glasses your wearing the new fisker model?
imagine cutting the price of a car by half because its a year old trim. that just shows how much itll be worth in a couple years. itll be worth in the low 10's thousands in the first 2-4 years
3:01 Donut media merch , only fair to review the car 😂❤
Oh, forgot to mention. They made, from what I was told by a very reliable source, they made about 100 Sport models. One of the guys that has a RUclips channel, not mentioning names, he has one. BUT, it appears the advertising hype that they had them during the fire sale, that appears to not be true. Multiple people have looked for the Sport model and no one could find one within the available inventory and using the configure your Ocean, the Sport model can be configured but that means that you are configuring a model that is not yet built and seems like it never will be and, for those, they are not discounted in the available inventory section.
Near impossible to try replacing all the car parts after the company goes under
It still looks better than any Tesla ever made...
Not better than the s & x
That used bar of soap looks better than Tesla. Nope
I’ve been driving it since December 3rd. I push it to the limits every day and absolutely love the drive here in Florida!
Software updates fixed most issues, sale means better value, drives superb. What's not to like. Has anyone here 'actually' driven the car, i just did this week and it's absolute gem and I currently own a Tesla MY. My advice before trying to sink a company trying to be different, base your judgement on the actual car
If fisker owners are lucky and fisker unlocks all the software before they close the last door. And the price drops between 15k and say 22k The Ocean might turn into a pretty fun cult car supported by a small community of enthusiasts that will provide support. With a software unlocked Who knows what they'll be able to do. They might get features and mods to work that were never intended.
Great Video Austin ✌🏻👌🏻
I had a fisker dealer down the road from me when I was young in Miami
I don't know what happened to that side of the company but it closed when I moved to Orlando. Now everyone says it's a new brand with the same logo
The Tsunoda hat is so sick.
Sounds like these cars are going to wind up as very expensive e waste
A friend of mine bought a Fisker Ocean Ultra. Honestly, the car's not that bad. Unfortunately, support for this car will be short lived like Android phones in the past. He also bought it like about a month ago and a half ago. Like a week before Marcus dropped his review and also before the prices plummeted.
It would be nuts to buy a car that clearly relies on regular updates from a company going bankrupt. It doesn’t matter how much they cut the price. The process trying to purchase one alone tells you what you would be in store for. Of course, I have no pity for anyone who bought one when they first came out either. 1st gen of anything comes with an inherent risk. This is just a case where first gen cost a lot more money. Why get this when huge companies like Toyota have their own electric models?
So what happens if you buy this car and the company goes under do you have a car payment anymore
Austin didn't finish the story. Did he cancel the order or did he get it?
First time I'd ever heard of Fisker was an episode of Mac Miller and the Most Dope Family, where he got one for being Complex Man of the Year. Since then, the only times I'd hear of it was in songs. Childish Gambino and Jaden Smith have both mentioned Fiskers. I thought they were doing very well, apparently not lol
He got one and it broke down minutes later on the interstate IIRC
192k views in a month!? Yeah this video didn't pay off
if its that hard to buy, how hard would it be to get serviced?
I think that you should have walked away when seeing that the showroom floor model was broken 🤣🤣🤣
Fisker has been around since 2012 not 2020, their first car was the fisker karma
MKBHD: DO NOT BUY THIS CAR
Austin: ait imma do it
Damn what a discount lol
If you're going to feel burned when the price of your car in used market falls, then don't buy a car. A car is a tool, not an investment. You buy it to use it because you need it. Every car loses value when you drive it off the lot. My real problem with Fisker is the maintenance after the company fails
Wow, this company was conceived, funded, launched and defunct all before I'd even heard of them
I'm not sure why they couldn't give you a car off the show floor.
Every Marques word is just as nearly dangerous as the Ocean itself.. thats insane..
if Austin Evan's can't buy one... no one can...
I would possibly buy the fire sale because I’m interested in tinkering with it, but it would need to be a daily driver for me. And that doesn’t make for a good tinkering car.
Really useful comment thank you!
so should I wait a while and buy a fisker?
Sooo, i still don't get it, what's so special about this car?
Happy that you actually tried to buy the company to save it and bring it to greater heights that only Austin can, Not Duncan. Seems this company had real potential tbh, idk if they got the worse end of what the entire EV industry is going through or they doubted giving you a car knowing the company might not see tomorrow, but if they just sticked it through and gave you a car and still used the last bit they have to work on software etc they'd probabl still pull through with that potential.
Good thing MKBHD exposes their unfinish product
I understand why you didn’t go through with it but I think you should have anyway. You would have easily made back the money doing a video every 3 months going over the state of the company and car.
Bro they're tanking. People that buy a car from a company thats gone under once already are fools. Imagine dropping 75k or even more after dealer markup when they first came out for one of those goofy things
More like Fister...cause that's how you'll feel after attempting to buy one.