How to Run Backing Tracks From a Phone
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Got a gig that has a quick turnaround in? In backing tracks but don't want anything ridiculous? This is for you! How to run backing tracks from a phone, tablet, MP3 player, pretty much anything that can handle playing music!
Also, does anyone know how to pronounce 'Behringer'?
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:25 - The Things You'll Need
2:54 - Setting up the Tracks
7:01 - Importing to Your Device of Choice
7:58 - Setting up the Rig
9:36 - Outro
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Great quality educational content. I love seeing your subscriber count slowly rise every time you upload, you'll blow up one of these days i bet!
Thank you so much!! It’s crazy! I’m so thankful for everyone, especially yourself, being a part of this. Thank you!
I wish we’d had this tech in the early 90s! I remember DAT and then mini-disc going into a small desk and then sending the mono backing track FOH. Things have got a lot more portable.
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Behringer.... love it. I always pronounced it as "Bay ringa" till I heard the mulitple ways other people said it!! Now of course I still pronounce it the same way, just to get funny looks or for them to say "Oh I've got a similar bit of kit from Beringer!!
the way i looked for this exact video for 30 minutes
Any recommendations for reliable mp3 players? Or apps to use to run a backing track set list?
this is an outstanding video. quick question though... since your backing tracks are in stereo, won't panning them all to the right just play the right side through the speakers at FOH? what if you have say, a guitar solo that's panned left in your mix? does this result in that getting cut out? great video again.
Thank you so much, Will!! Great question - so by panning then to the right and sending only that to the sound engineer, you’re essentially making the tracks mono. So the FOH will just receive a mono track.
This means you wouldn’t have any guitars panned to either side with a stereo mix, it’d all be put to one side!
Exactly what I needed! Thanks a lot
Happy I could help!!
Great video! I had a question, instead of using a 3.5mm to xlr splitter cable, is it possible to use a 3.5mm male to two 3.5 mm female connectors, as in 1. Connect the left using headphones and 2. Connect the right to the sound system using an aux cable?
Thanks so much! And I don't see a problem with that at all, that should work!
Thanks 4 this! Didnt want to use PC on the gigs... great solution. Is it possible (with another big mix or audio interface) to have click in both ears? some extra panning with the big mixer...or this is not possible?
Yes it is! So because you're splitting the click and backing track with a cable, the click will be in both ears as it's in Mono. So no need for a bigger mixer and extra panning!
but in this case (when click in both ears), will there be also backing track? :) anyway I bought this Béhrindža thing, thanks for your content, keep going mate
Yes! As long as you have a feed from the sound engineer! And thank you so much!
Great video. Is it possible to use the Behringer PM1 the same way like this? I mean why would I need the other XLR input? Thanks!
Yes, absolutely! The one in this video is good if you want a feed from the sound engineer to hear the rest of the band and still have control over the click volume. But you can always just use the PM1 and send both backing tracks and click to the sound engineer, and hope they turn the click up loud enough!
@@DrumElectric I see now there is no dc charging option, maybe I'll go with the safe bet then 😁 Thank you for your quick response!
Are you using a Y - mic cable? Can you tell me what kind you're using? I have the Behringer P1
Essentially, yes! I’m using a stereo 3.5mm Jack to split XLR cable (so two XLRs)
I quite dont get it - when you give 2nd XLR with backing track to sound engineer (or a big band mixer), how will you hear the backing track? You just hear the click on the L/R ear and there has to be routing back to this Behringer P1? Sorry, I'm just beginner 🤐
Great question! Usually, the sound engineer will send you back the backing track via your monitor
I have basically the same configuration you showed in the video, BUT I'm having some bleeding of the click track to what would the be FOH end... For some reason, and even though I panned the click track 100% to the left and the backing track 100% to the right, a little bit of the click bleeds through the right channel. I guess the Y cable is the culprit here, but I don't know how to be sure about it... Has it happened to you? Great vid, by the way!
having this same issue, any fix?
I am still getting click bleed through in my FOH mix and also am only getting click coming through the P1, can you help!?
okay I figured out the bleed through, it was a bus issue, but why am I still only getting click in my ears? I want both in my ears.
Hey, thanks for the video. I just wanted to ask, I want to play my guitar and a backong track through my amp but it has no aux input. Is there a device that could help me listen to the whole thing through my amp's headphone output? Thanks again
That's a good question! I'm not sure if you'd be able to do it all through the guitar amp. It might be possible to do it through a mixer though! So put the guitar and backing track through the mixer, output the mixer into the amp, and then listen to the whole thing through the mixer rather than the amp. I hope this helps!
@@DrumElectric yeah that could work. Nice!
Thanks for video! I have question: Playback and click track goin from phone with two XLR. Click one channel, playback another, right?
Headphones comes from headphones output.. i missed, how to get playback channel from, to auditory? Sorry, im not good in english 😅
Yes, exactly! You'd put the click track to a little mixer next to you, and plug your headphones into that
Thank you.
Not sure if you will respond on this old video, but trying anyway: I want to send stereo to FoH. I don't care if click track is mono or stereo. I know you need to use a multichannel audio interface to accomplish this, but really not sure which one is the right one. Ideally I would like a device that is rechargeable or at least battery powered (with something other than 9V batteries, hate those!). Is there something like that you can recommend?
Fortunately I have my comment notifications on RUclips for all my videos, for exactly this reason!
So you’ll want to look into something like the Focusrite 4i4 which has a total of 6 outputs on the back. I believe the newest ones also power themselves through the USB-C, so you don’t need a separate power supply for it which can be useful in some situations.
When looking for audio interfaces, you’ll just want one with at least 4 outputs on the back. I’ve had the most reliability with Focusrite so far, but I know Behringer do some good ones that are a little cheaper, too!
@@DrumElectric Thanks!
Hi. Is it possible to have two tracks in DAW (left and right channel) with the same sounds but the one on the left has the click?
Absolutely! All you’ll need to do is pan the click to the left and export it
That's what I would do...
Question - How would you get front of house playback to your in ears. I.e guitars/vocals etc?
Great question! So usually the sound engineer will run a cable with a separate sound feed to us, and they can control the volume of what we get separate to everyone else. Works a treat!
@@DrumElectric Brilliant stuff! Thank you.
Fantastic! I recently purchased that Behringer p1 so I wouldn't need to use a wedge anymore. I reckon it's worth it for sure. I also learned recently that they now do a clone of the Shure 215s iems. Ill be getting a set when my music store has stock. SD251CL is what they're called. Great video, as always mate!
Thanks so much, Andy!! The P1 is definitely amazing, welcome to the in-ears club! Thank you for the heads up on the SD251CL's - there's a few clones out there now that are as good, if not better, than the Shure 215s for a fraction of the price. I hope you get on well with them!!
@@DrumElectric Yes! I'll let you know when I get them. Cheers!
You didn't explain how you get to hear the backing track. You sent it to FOH. Are you getting a return feed? Foes that return feed only have the tracks or vocals too?
Apologies! Exactly that. So I'd get the backing track back from the sound engineer with the rest of the monitor mix. Then I have the click in my ears from the Behringer P1 straight from the tracks as mentioned in the video. This means I have control over how loud the click is at all times
@@DrumElectric So I am only able to hear the backing track through the monitors on the ground? I want backing track and click in my ear not just click. Also is it safer to have a jack to 1/4 inch and then go DI? one of the comments said going XLR straight through to FOH can fry your iPad.
Only just seen this video. So will this work the same way if I plug my Alesis SamplePad 4 in to the P1 if the backing tracks are loaded ok the pads SD card?
Yes absolutely!
@@DrumElectric Legend mate. Pad has a right output and left/mono output so instead of the splitter is that just two jack to XLR cables, left cable to the P1 and right output to the FOH?
@shackanory you’ve absolutely nailed it!
Would you then plug the in ear monitor station ( dunno what it's called - the wireless box) into the PA1?
You’re absolutely right!
@@DrumElectric ONE MORE question! I found Behringer MA400 Online for £25! Can that be used the same way?
I haven’t used it personally, but at a quick glance it looks like you can! As long as you have two inputs (which it does) then you’ll be great!
Hi there, I tried this method in reaper but unfortunately when I play the rendered track the the splitter the click is coming out of both the monitors and the headphones! All the tracks are hard panned completely, I followed your instructions to the tee and am using the same type of splitter as you are - is there anything I'm missing? I've tried to go through the process of elimination of checking the cables and stems and nothing is working.
How strange! I’ve not used Reaper before, so I’m not much use! The only thing I can think of is the render settings - is it definitely rendering in stereo? Is the playback still coming out panned from all the possible outputs of Reaper? It might be rendering from a strange output that’s only doing it in mono. Asides from that, I’m not sure! Do you have any other software available? (Like Audacity?)
@@simbaking6338 thank you so much for the help! Fortunately I finally resolved the issue a few weeks ago, but I appreciate the response!
@@jkrunch2166 ..ok ..what did u do to solve the issue? Would love to hear the method that u used
@@simbaking6338 it was literally a setting on my drummers phone he had to disable, I believe it was surround sound or cinematic sound, something to that effect. The method in this video was dead on.
How about using DI box for the udio to in house? Is it possible?
Absolutely!
Hi there is the jack to stereo XLR a 3.5mm or 1/4in jack?
The one I use is a 3.5mm Jack!
@@DrumElectric fantastic and thanks for the great video
What if your backing track is stereo? With your set up, aren’t you only sending a mono signal to FOH?
Great point! Yep, this will send a mono track to FOH. If you want stereo, you’ll need to lob an audio interface (or something similar) in the mix!
@@DrumElectric a couple of options.... Cymatic Audio, or Zoom R8 or R16.... I'm sure there are other options as well.... Computer using daw and an interface, etc. The zoom is battery operated or AC (the R8 is anyway) there is some work involved with creating mono wav files and using their respective desktop software then moving files to devices but will work very well! I'd like to find an easier way for three tracks (stereo left and right and click) but doesn't seem to exist
A question for you. Why not just get a cable and go from your tablet directly into the aux input on a guitar amp?
You absolutely can do that! Just you then don’t get click. This method means you can have the tracks go to a guitar amp (for example) and the click to your ears
This is a good video, but skipping the DI has two unwanted outcomes. First, if your cable run is over 20ft noise can become an issue. Second is that if your sound guy has phantom power on then whatever you're using as the MP3 player will be fried. Modern digital desks generally allow phantom power to be applied to individual channels but most analogue desks I come across have a switch for phantom power across all channels simultaneously ... So the same phantom power switch that is on for your, say, kick drum mic will be switched on for your MP3 channel. I'd use a DI.
Great advice!!!! Would you please be so kind as to describe the process in details for me (noob)? I have an Ipod with all the backing tracks (click left/ music right) ready to go. My idea is to take it with me to a small venue. I'm not sure how to go from the ipod all the way to the foh. Also, I know the sound guy has a desk with phantom power, so what this guy is proposing is out of the question. I've never used a passive DI. Thank you for your time.
@@DepressedCapitalist Rule of thumb is that a DI or Line Isolator (more on that in a moment) goes between the output of device and the FoH. In the video example, only the red / right channel is going FoH so a mono DI (or line isolator) is all that is needed … and in this case the red connector goes to the DI input and the balanced DI output goes to the FoH. The only problem if we continue to use the video as a reference point is the author of that video is using a cable connector with canon sockets at one end where DI inputs are typically TS 1/4" inputs … so they won’t plug in. However, the splitter cable like used in the video is also available with TS 1/4" at one end also so you can easily buy them. But, if you really want to use a split cable with XLRs at one end just like the video, and if you plan on using the P1 personal monitor used in the video then you’d have to, then a Line Isolator - which does a very similar job to the DI but with a louder output volume … but it won’t cancel to noise over long cable runs - may be better for you. However, the a feature DIs have that line isolators do not is that DIs also have a “thru” output, which can be handy. There is one more thing to consider - you may at some point want to send *both* the left and right signals to FoH - if you never will want to do that you can ignore the rest of my response. Anyway .. if you want to send them both you’d need stereo DI and you can use the “thru” on the DI to go to your headphone amp … but not the P1 because it has the wrong input type … but the Behringer P2 has the correct input type as do some other brands. Go to the Radial web site and check out the ProDI, ProD2 and IceCube for examples of items referred to here. Radial is quite expensive, though; Behringer make cheaper versions of these but they don’t sound great. Mid price options include Whirlwind and ClarkTeknik.
@@psmail007Thank you very much for taking the time to explain everything in so much detail. I really appreciate it. For me, this is gold. Sometimes social media is incredible. I have never understood how to work with backing tracks properly until now. I have a gig coming up and I'll follow all your instructions. Because they make a lot of sense. Cheers from Argentina my friend. Sorry about my English.
@@DepressedCapitalist your English is as good as any English speaker I know :) Good luck with your setup!
Not sure if you’re still responding to this video 2 years later. I’m stuck on how foh gets the tracks. If I’m controlling playback from my phone doesn’t it need to go out from the bheringer? There are no outputs.
That’s what the Aux cable is for! In the video I use a Jack to XLR cable, one of the XLRs have the tracks on and go to FOH, the other XLR goes into the Behringer so you can hear the click
@@DrumElectric Thank you. I actually figured this out right after asking you. Thank you for replying though. This video was super helpful to me in order to simplify something that has been a huge blocker for me with the set up I've been using as a newbie to the tech of drumming. I love all your videos and can't wait to dive in.
wait do u not need a DI box for ur backing track output if u have that split cable?? wow nooo video has mentioned this type of cable exists
Not that I've found so far! Glad I can introduce you to the cable!!
@@DrumElectric thank you!!
Attach it to your drumstool eh? wonder where that tip came from 🙄😜
🤣 *drum stool attachment idea fully credited to Charlie Smith. He is your man for all Behringer P1 Drum Stool attachment ideas
@@DrumElectric hahahaha nicely saved Mr Y!
The beauty of both XLR & 1/4 inch outs, XLR goes to the main mix desk and the 1/4 inch Tip goes where ever tickles your fancy.
So you use the headphones output ?
Yes!
can you show us the result for this on main stage pls
Feel free to check out my videos on running backing tracks from Mainstage!
@@DrumElectric can u paste the link below pls !! This is cool 🔥
cant I just use jamzone without the mixer?
Great question! I’m not sure, as I’ve not used Jamzone before
You are a fucking legend ❤
You’re too kind, thank you!!
Can we connect our phone via Bluetooth
Not to what I’m using in the video, only cables!
No doubt you already know by now, I've not looked through all the comments, it's pronounced Beh-rin-jer. Have a nice day :)
I still get it wrong to this day!
It's pronounced Behringer... not Behringer. ;-)
A DI Box isn't necessary?
Depends on the setup - If I'm sending XLRs like this video, then no! If you're sending jack leads, then yes!
Wow! This is insane. This would save me a few hundred bucks.
Another question I have is, do you never experience the click bleeding with this setup?
@@njmontano1625 So far, none!
This is crazy. I was planning to buy a stereo di box that costs around $120. This is indeed a money saving alternative. Thanks!
F loud intro !!
Haha! Agreed! Don’t worry, haven’t used that intro in a while :)
This was a horrible video ! 80 percent of this was playing with a daw ! You never want to send a cable from your iPhone directly to front of house. If what real value is this behringer?
I appreciate the feedback! I wanted to include how I made the backing tracks too; an important part of the process!
The Behringer acts as a mixer for your In-Ears so you can hear the click, backing tracks, and monitor feed. If you don’t want to send your phone to front of house, you can always put a D.I. in-between
@@DrumElectric I understand the "mixer"aspect of the behringer box now. If you don't need to hear yourself (or your instrument) in your ear, then with the appropriate splitter cable, you can go direct into your ear (assuming you have iPhone/ipad etc) close to you and is mounted firmly
I read somewhere that YT has manipulated things such that content creators have huge incentive to make 10 minute plus videos.... I'm wondering if that's what is play here....
@@CrossoverClassicZero subscribers. I wonder why.