Why idealize the Black family under Jim Crow oppression? GOP Rep. Byron Donalds responds to Joy Reid
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Donald Trump surrogate Rep. Byron Donalds (R-FL) responds to saying “during Jim Crow the Black family was together” during a Tuesday Black voter outreach event for the former president, suggesting that Jim Crow had positive aspects despite it being a time of brutal social and political oppression for African-Americans. Rep. Donalds joins Joy Reid to discuss the backlash.
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#MSNBC #ByronDonalds #JimCrow
Under Jim Crow he wouldn't be in the position his in!
and not allowed to marry his white wife
Old boo would have been swinging from a tree!😲
I agree with everything he said
@@nizzotheartist It’s okay to agree with him and know that the points made in this thread are legit,
😅😅😅 sho wouldnt
This is why it's important to know history
Who emplimented jim crow? :)
lol
@@greg11786 Southern White Politicians.
You nailed it bogiedmh44! This is so important!!
First and foremost this is American history!We can not allow anyone to change our history, just because it doesn't fit their narrative. We must all stand up and not allow them to ban books regarding history.
He used Jim crow as a reference to contrast how horrible it was for blacks, yet blacks still held families together.
when did he say that? he said "we're starting to see the reinvigoration of black family and that helps breed a revival of a black MIDDLE class. during jim crow, the black family was together.' this sounds like he's implying that black people were enjoying the benefits of a middle class during jim crow and were voting conservatively. my mom's great cousin is in her mid 90s and has nothing but negative things to say about that timepoint, including the black family structure.
@@jsbreezy• Didn't sound like that to me!
Yes but all they wanna hear is ‘Jim jim Jim’
@@juancolon3715 • The media is always misapplying something so they can get ratings. However, nobody is talking about how poor black youth during the Jim Crow Era were not killing one another. No gangs, bloods, cripts, etc. We were not burying young black boys.
Even though the law didn't protect black families, a man was still needed in the home. His wife and children needed him. He is still needed today, and the poorest among black people are filling their homes up with children who are daddyless. The women who make that choice are the least of us who will ever get married. I know people say marriage is not for everyone, but when you start having babies it should be for you. What about the total growth of the children? Too much to talk about here, the mind is processing too fast.☮️
Exactly! They(the left) for clarification know what he means, Through the worse times for black folks we stuck together. Joy-Less Reid knows that.
Lawd, you can tell the kinda audience this is. Everyone is so hung up on the fact that he mentioned Jim Crow, they can't get the basic point. He was saying that in a DARK time in black history, we were together. So if we could be together in our darkest time, we should certainly be together now. All folks can care about is that he mentioned it. Its TRUE. As a matter of fact, because of the strength of the black family, black men & boys were *intentionally* targeted, in order to sew the seeds. Sooooo the yeah, the man in the home disempowered BECAUSE his role had power to begin with. This is why the left keeps losing the black population, the obsession with seeing us through the lens of suffering & being disgusted by black positivity in our history. This was gross to watch & it broke my heart.
No ok!!!
All he did was try to reframe the narrative, and that's what you're also trying to do. Black people's families and the like were shackled gaged separated and tortured during that era and the only reason they stuck together was because of fear and the racist overtone that they had to live with ! There was no family life for black men & women during that era. These are facts so stop trying to change the narrative. What you want is to bring back this fear today by continuing the racist cult-like hatred that was adopted from that so-called Dark time in Black History. The similarity is today people still come together when they are faced with this racial hate current day....ie. George Floyd! The thing you Republicans can't accept is that today white and black people come together in these moments and they come with no fear! You say, "The left isn't losing the black population"...that's your dream so you can elect a dictator that you worship that will continue to try and separate the black & white unity. That's not going to happen and that isn't democracy! Wake Up!
Yep
Why would you quote something si bad
No sane Black person would say anything about an era that has ruined our people, period.
He’s out of touch with his own self as a black man! Donalds is the one who is gaslighting because when he get done talking about the importance of a black man in the black family he himself married a white woman. Which is okay to marry whoever you want to but don’t act like you’re about protecting the Black woman when you abandoned them for a white woman
Well I guess I’m insane. My parents were born during that time. My father, who was 20 years older than my mother, was born in 1905. My mother was born in 1923. Both born in the Jim Crow South. I was born near the end of the era I. 1952. I refuse to look at it as a painful period. Was it different from your era. Depending on your age and where you grew up; yes. But my mine and my family’s was so much better than the time of the slaves. I look at slavery and I have so much admiration for those that chose to took that time and opportunity to do great things when the opportunities presented themselves. It is because of decisions not to internalize that pain that we have HABUs. Many of the things you take advantage of was born out of so call “painful” times in history, i.e the traffic lights we run sometimes. Don’t be ashamed to mention those times. Some of the most prized things in life come during painful times. Look up how a diamond is formed. Do some reading on RUclips about Lionel Riches and his ancestors during Jim Crow.
Anything? That’s a reach
Who was saying that?
You have to see the truth for your self it has nothing to do about people ruling over us. It has to do with how we function as a people and society. We had a family stucture and were organized. They destroy that with the wellfare program and other programs that toolk the man out the house. Check the atomic family rates from the 60 to the 80's and look at the decline and tell me what was the cause. Inorder to destroy our progress they attach our family structure because it was so important to us
He said they voted more consersvatively during Jim Crow. Huge problem with that argument...African American citizens were NOT ALLOWED to vote in the South.
They were allowed. It was just incredibly risky.
Risky? More like fatal.
Thanks to the Democrats!
@@rcmysm9123 Ah, Rutherford Hayes was a Republican who sold out the Southern Black Americans by ending Reconstruction & allowing the Military Troops to leave the South- ushering in the Jim Crow Era.
@@rcmysm9123Which are todays REPUBLIKKKANS....🤡.... educate yourself...
This clip doesn't mention the fact that Joy told Dufus that under Jim Crow he would not have been able to marry his white wife.
It’s ok. He would have married black if black fathers are available to train and love on their daughters to teach them to become a wife and not a baby mama….
@@ColorMeNothingfathers are not supposed to train their kids they are supposed to raise their kids you train animals not children.
Exactly
@@Ahtaht227why are you so slow? He’s just saying blk families were more together spite of Jim Crow!
@@arlandolittle7625 “in spite” if you’re going to insult me please do so with proper grammar. He never said in spit of Jim Crow he said during which he could have just said the 60s… and if he was so concerned about the black family he should have married a black woman…
I know exactly what he is stating is black people was together during Jim Crow and they always use a black against blacks reporter
why can't people just admit that they were wrong and apologize?
Because that would be admitting the truth and MAGA is not about truth.
Joy should admit she is wrong for saying things he didn’t say.
Nothing he said was wrong at all, the media is just spinning this into “republicans want Jim Crow back” because it’s an election year. Wake up already. His point is that even when blacks were being oppressed the family unit was stronger than it is today. Single motherhood rate has been increasing since the Civil rights movement. Why is that ?
Denial is the GOP way of life nowadays right out in the open. Denial and lying!!
@@JenkinsFamily21 you sound like him.
As a black man, this is disgusting and disheartening.
It is but I would never vote for Biden
Sir, I dont want to bring you any disrespect and Im sure we have a common desire to see the black community succeed. But I just want to pose a question. Exactly how did the black family unit stay more intact under the hardships of Jim Crow, which was evil, than during the welfare acts after and leading to today? I think we can both agree that america is way less racist today than back then?
We are talking a 25% single mother rate then as opposed to 75% today! That fact should make you question some things. That is what the gentleman was trying to point out, not that Jim Crow was somehow good. That proves that black community has the backbone, resilience, and moral character to help itslef and some people feel that is a better path forward than welfare that incentivizes poor behavior that leads to despair regardless of race. I feel the real racism is thinking that black community can only thrive through handouts.
Did you go and listen to what he actually said, not what Joy Reid is spinning his words into a lie?
Byron is a national hero!
Trump isn’t running against Biden, he’s running against the deep state. They can’t control him so they are trying to destroy him and have been for the past 8 years.
@@rsktransport Wow! You were so respectful and seeking to understand instead of just trying to shame and slander. Great comment! I totally love your tone and kindness!
A country divided cannot stand.
But a country that seeks to understand one another is powerful! 🙏🏻🇺🇸❤️
Donalds's point is that the conservative nature of blacks is what sustained the black family even through the hardships of Jim Crow. It was, in part, when blacks began to turn toward Democrat liberal programs that the black family was all but destroyed. Nearly 80% of black children grow up without their fathers. Again, nearly 8 out of every 10 black kids grow up without their dads. Yet blacks are abusing Donalds's point to help Democrats when it is Democrats who are sinking the black family. That is what is truly disgusting and disheartening.
He himself FRAMED HIS TALK WITH THE TERM "JIM CROW" Era. Joy is reporting on what he actually said!
And nowhere did he say they lived better under jim crow. The family was strong and united and they had to be in order to live through the jim crow era.
She was misinforming you again. She kept trying to bait him. "Better" "Golden Era" not his words.
When are y'all going to stop letting people on the TV control how you think and what you believe? If they say he did it, y'all just go right along with it like lost puppies. You clearly heard what the man said, and it was NOT what they tried to make it out to be. That should be enough for any man or woman with integrity to reject this foolish story, but no, y'all throw away all your common sense and side with people who are clearly LYING and trying to get you emotional about the term, JIM CROW.
@@deecry8087 FACTS 😎
@deecry8087 they want him to be slayed. He brought up a point and want to trigger us black folk. It's hilarious how we're getting dupped.
He cannot clean this up as much as he’s trying to. The fact that he’s going on every black TV personality show to try to clean up his comments shows that he knows he messed up
Am I taking crazy pills? Donalds argument is basically: "black marriage rates were higher and more black families were intact during the 1940's, and 1950's (the Jim Crow era)". His argument is NOT: "black marriage rates were higher under Jim Crow, as an institution".
How is it difficult to discern the difference between the two?
@@user-yx6ox7us9vhe probably should’ve just listed years instead of mentioning Jim Crow anything… people tend to play and finesse words
@@marquischapman3002Joy Reid is the absolute worst at twisting things
@@user-yx6ox7us9vyou can’t undo the programming the democratic part has done to black folks. Pandering to us every election year. Us voting at a 90% rate BLINDLY. But we won’t talk about the real reason we as black folk are not married now as opposed to then. Feminism and the incentive to not pair up and rely on the government. Don’t believe me. Read the Moynihan report. It’s gonna take more than Hillary pulling hot sauce out her purse or Biden telling me I’m not black if I don’t know who I’m voting for. We are waking up. Sooner we all do the better.
Sincerely
A black man❤
There is nothing to clean up.
Whoever told Byron to go on Joy's show needs to be fired because he got embarrassed.
This is a clear example of the meaning of "all over him like a cheap suit." Not to mix metaphors but this must be what it feels like to be mauled by a Grizzly. I felt for him...not really 😊
She ate him up. He tried she was ready for his overtalking self
Right! Joy Reid probably has a 200 IQ, he had no chance.
@@saintclaire4897😂😂😂
I'd like to see him go on Roland Martin's show. Roland would tear him to shreds.
I'm 78 and lived with Jim Crow: refused the use of a restroom when my Grandmother was trying to buy me a suit, got evil stares form white people during a stops in Virginia, had to wait in colored waiting rooms at interstate Greyhound and Trailways bus stations, was told to go in the back door of white persons homes, was told to say sir to white people younger than me, went to segregated schools that passed down used school books. Some homes had fathers in the homes. Not all homes had fathers present. I experienced Jim Crow and congressman until you've lived with it study and get the facts straight. You said it was better then and you were born after that era.
I feel for what you're saying - your message should get prime time. Warm regards and have a good day.
@@MistyHenryMisty
Come on. We all know what he meant.
Why did he not use the actual years instead of the Jim Crow era? He was smoking and drinking too much in the video.
@@lub1149 why not watch the full clip of when he made that statement and you might understand as to why .
@@MistyHenryMistynobody is going to entertain your little games. The implication was that it was better. Did you somehow forget what maga means and what era they believe was great? Use your brain for once. Connect the dots
Look at the story they found to try to destroy what he said. All men were not taken from their home and killed. She should be ashamed of herself! However, this is what the media does. They all knew what he meant. They are benefitting from twisting what he said! RATINGS!
S/o to Byron. He never said anything about a Golden era. The kkk was abolished but the BW doing a da*n good job!
Guess who was the party of the Kkk ? lol, Democrats, That bs switch they claim never happened
It's like saying that during slavery no black person was out of work.
👍💯🤯
Democrats in the 1880s invented segregation and Jim Crow laws that lasted through the 1960s. Democrats also came up with the “separate but equal” rationale that justified segregation and pretended that it was for the benefit of African Americans.
Funny who Dems made all those laws & still has people on their plantation. Vote how the Wht lib says. “We make Dems first they keep us last cause your chumps” Malcolm X. She loves Biden used the N word 24/7, lives in all Wht neighborhoods & vote how the Wht man tells them . Support Dems after they saw how deadly Covid was they flooded Blk communities with unvaxxed illegals treated them kings. Reparations? What has Biden done 4 yrs. Trump the first step act the affordability act. Dems will keep flooding poor & Blk communities with illegals. You get what you voted for
EXACTLY!!!
His governor talked about slavery teaching job skills, so he’s right at home.
Self hate is a terrible disease.
😂😂😂😂😂 that was your takeaway 😂😂😂😂
thats why black liberals need to stop pretending to have white liberal values - stop being fake - learn to love yourself
@@autodidactpolymath1851There's nothing else to take from it.
In the last 30 years there is ZERO evidence that more Black men are taking responsiblity for the kids they create. Zero.
Yea and the self hate is all Democrats and liberals that kneel at the altar of agenda, mutilation and false idols.
you were not out of time. you didnt like a black man saying that black men need to stay part of the family. someone said in your ear to end the interview. horrible "news" channel and you prove it once again
The overall point of kids do better with both a mom and dad… and society is better with a family unit is 100% correct.
As long as the child has love and protection...it really doesn't matter their gender.
@@dandredurand8262 As a point of difference, do you believe two women or one women can provide as adequate of support system and protection as a nuclear one man one women family strucutre???
@@dandredurand8262BS
@@jman1562001 as long as the child has love....would you rather them be in a household or family with one or two or multiple abusive (mental, physical, verbal etc)? No, i think not doesn't matter the gender of the parent or guardian.
@@dandredurand8262 love is one thing...but the male presence something that can't be replicated. Not just from a protection standpoint but emotional and psychological one too. There are things a man imparts to a child that a woman can't visa versa. I'm against abuse in any form and understand the trauma that comes with that but it's something about a male presence in a child's life that can't be replicated.
Spin,Spin,Spin, Lies,Lies,Lies. He should have just owned what he said and move on instead he’s cleaning up on isle 5. This is what Donald Trump means when he say Make America Great Again! I hope people with an open mind can understand and learn from this.
Exactly he purposely said Jim Crow to appeal to who was in the room and I promise you, there were not black and if so a few was.
EXACTLY, And Don't forget blame Joe Biden and the Democrats for what HE SAID, I don't get it.
Black people are really in last place and still on the plantation...racist at heart,and hv no idea of what's really happening in this country,nor understand history..sad
@@mrs.lauralogan1726Joy told him, as she pointed her finger, " you said that, not the democrats."They blame everything on Biden & the Democrats
so did or did not black families thrive in spite of jim crow?? Yes!!! thats his point! it was policies that destroyed the black family, like removal of the man from the home for government subsidies for women.
It’s like saying that slavery was beneficial because it provided job skills. Oh right, a Florida republican already said that.
Not quite like that, and that's not quite what was said. I did expect people commenting to listen more, but I guess the host couldn't manage it either.
@@paulaaron4821 How folks conditioned through decades of liberal indoctrination and propaganda react
The truth hurts
I encourage you to go and watch the actual interview. I was curious enough on this one to go watch and that was not what was said at all. It was a complete misrepresentation; which I am finding to be more frequent on these news channels. He is actually FOR the African American family. Without doing our own research, we can be led to believe anything that is told to us by the news media.
He cannot defend his stance. It is Indefensible. Like DJT and his divisive rhetoric.
But go on, BYRON.
This guy does not know history. I lived it. He is completely wrong
This is so pathetic & sad! And a missed opportunity for radical Joy to discuss the negative effects of 66% of black children being born to SINGLE mothers - which the welfare system & liberal Govt has fostered & exploited!!!
Statistics DO NOT lie!
Byron Donald’s is saying that EVEN in the worst of times the black family (parents) remained together.
He’s Disgusting 🤮
but I honestly feel like he’s warning us at this point
A key tenant of fascism to yearn for a mythical past. He's trying to reinvent the systemic oppression of minorities as if it were a good thing.
He unfortunately is and i don't have a lot of hope we will listen November.
He is married to a while WM. During Jim Crow, he would've been on a tree somewhere. The dude wants to talk about the Black family, yet he chose a WM.
clownrence thomas already stated that Brown v Ed. was unconstitutional or judicial overreach. They're a bunch clowns in a tiny car all fighting for a seat
Are you really that simpleminded?
“Here’s where the gaslighting comes in….” he said while attempting to gaslight the viewers….😑. How dumb does he think we are?!?
It's always projection with the reich...always.
so are you saying jim crow destroyed the black famy? My family and yours survived it. Have you never been ro a family reunion? probably not because welfare state killed the black family
He was struggling to justify himself every which way but loose.
He doesn't have to figure out how dumb you are, your comment reveals how dumb you are. I believe you underestimated your dumbness.
Lols
He thinks we are still on CRACK!!! HIS PARTY TOLD HIM TO SAY THAT!!!🎉
Is she specifically paid to give misinformation? And at what point did she admit being wrong (he never said Jim Crow was a "golden age"). No, it's not toxic or misogynistic for a man to stand on truth.
I came here to say check how low is Joy’s audience is. The comprehension is definitely lacking.
As a mother, black mother who is 59 years old with 9 grandchildren I would never vote for this republican party. They are in no way advocating or even discussing anything that would be positive for me or my family
There is no Black folks in MAGA world who can be honest about racism and be a prominent voice. They have to pretend racism was not that bad or never happen. If Criminal Byron Donald's ever said anything else, they will make him wish he was in Jim crow era. This guy knows it . Don't tell black folks how to live when you not living such experience having a white family. The setting that you are describing and lecture one about you don't live it brother. Nothing wrong with your choice, but stay in your lane Criminal Byron Donald's. we know your checker past Mr. high and might Donald's.
Lets be honest about crime and poverty. You look at eastern Europe the crime is high, white and white crimes. Most of it is poverty just like anywhere else. yet the media don't give those countries and neighborhood the same coverage. why they want to pretend blacks are the problem or brown people. More crime occur where there are poverty and the unbalance of opportunities.
100%
You don't live in Chicago, do you?
Do you and your family work for a living?
@@stormyweather9917 you dont know anything about chicago do you?
He suggested Jim Crow was an era where black families were good. Now he's trying to back peddle. Prime example of how far some black males will go to please Trump and the R's.
Exactly 💯
Racist lying white people talk
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@@Crash1025Bandicoot7Truth be told.
😂😂😂😂😂
Joy Reid COMPLETELY missed the point of what he's saying. Like shut up. You really think Byron thinks Black people fared better during Jim Crow? He was just saying that even during such a terrible time of Jim Crow, marriage rates in the black community were higher then, which is a FACT. Joy Reid is singlehandedly one of the worst journalists in modern day history.
She knocked him out of the park he's a lier and a coward.
Are you stupid?
Exactly, why Jim Crow? I cannot understand how a black man can reference Jim Crow. What for?
That's my issue. I'm not saying that Donald's isn't smart (although he isn't smart) but a person of his age and generation would raise Jim Crow? Who planted that thought in him or flat out told him to raise it? Strange...
To clean up Jim crow! That's why! There's nothing good or positive about him crow!
Why would black people vote repukeican because they do not and have not ever helped them.
You people are so dumb. LISTEN to what he said! Quit letting MSNBC tell you how to think!
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it; Those who erase history are attempting to repeat it.
Why can't he admit he messed up bringing up Jim Crow era?
He doesnt have to because if you know how to listen you will have known without any doubt what he meant.
Some of us are smart enough to see how the conversation was spun
Wasn’t black Wall Street during the Jim Crow era? So what he was stating was facts black families were together and middle classed🤔 I’m a Gen X I could see how joy spun that narrative. She put words in his mouth that he didn’t even say. Gas lighting at its best.🤦🏾♀️
@@ellenjohnson3669 yup, Democrat policy helped destroy the nuclear family which is why the community & culture is in the toilet. Now its added on victim mentality, $ocialism & LMNOPXYZ
TRUMPS HOUSE BOY THATS WHY
Read the comments. It seems most everyone missed the profound point. Black Families Together in tack Working it Together rather than separated. Period.
You got the point
Nope. We are the majority. We understood exactly what he said.
This man is playing the victim card for being held accountable for what he actually said.
He thought nobody would check his nonsense. He needs to read more books.
His WHITE wife is an education activist in Florida.....He's not allowed to read books.
Sounds like you advocate fatherless homes in the black community.
What about the older gentleman in the background that agreed with him
dems hate truth
🤔Will the books tell us we had more or less families prior to 1965 ?
During Jim Crow Black people didnt have a choice!
Of course not. Jim Crow Joe wouldn't allow it.
So with a choice 70% single mother rate
Black women had a choice ask all the black women that were with white men back then. I guess you forgot the black women that went to the supreme court for that white man
Righttttttt smh
@@bigtime9589you’re not very bright are you? Joe became a politician in 1972 🤦🏾♂️
What a disgrace he is! He has revealed who he is. Thank you Joy for holding up the light at his face.
The more he talks the more he exposes his full and total ignorance, how can he represent anyone ?
During Jim Crow, black families voted conservatively? Bro, during Jim Crow, blacks couldn't vote. Not in the South.
Dude definitely has a whitewashed view of the reign of "separate but equal." He sure wouldn't have been a Florida congressman back then--and he would've had a front row seat at a cross burning if he had tried to become one.
Edited to add that I couldn't watch the entire clip. It was just too painful.
My God can you believe the nonsense he spewed.. He was pandering the racist in their party so he can be run for VP ..
Say it louder!!!
He believe all the lying white people tell him
You didn't miss anything but more pain !
Well articulated 👍🏽👍🏽
He isn't married to a black woman. What is he suggesting?
WHAT?! is she spanish? lol
I wonder what he’s teaching his biracial children??????
Erika Lees is his wife. She's also a member of Moms for Liberty and many other conservative groups.
No she is a white conservative activist. @rosemedallion2848
@constancemarshall9290 Nothing, and there's no racism in America!!😂😂😂
The fact that Donalds even brought up Jim Crow in a positive light shows where he is coming from. Part of the narrative that Donalds and other conservatives are pushing is that black people were better off before they had civil rights.
Donalds’ self-respect is entirely gone, along with his mind.
Absolutely, but it's not about his self-respect. He is not connected to this community. He is married to a non-black female and feels superior to BLACKS. Watch the way that he engages with BLACK women in Congress. He knows what he is doing, and God doesn't like ugly.
Democrats Are Jim Crow
That part! The only reason they want us to look kindly on that era is because that's when Republicans thought America was great.
Ask him why the Black Family's were separated in the first place, SMDH
Welfare....
The welfare state. That's what hes was referring to.
Feminism
Because of the welfare state. They survived slavery and Jim Crow with family intact, yet it took the welfare state ( Democrat beliefs) to destroy the family unit. That's what Donald's was trying to say.
No ask the Democrats not him. They instituted Jim Crow
Those White men in that room weren't listening to you, but allowing you to spread their word.
I guess it doesn’t matter how many times many republicans have been married or have broken up so many homes by committing adultery… as long as you get married again?
Donald why was your record Expunged
He's a Boy
@@brittanydiane214 For those who don’t wanna be married, great! But facts… the institution of marriage stabilizes families so kids can get a healthy start in life. Stable families breed strong communities! 💪🏽 And that’s what we want.
@@fayebrooks7359Why are YOU attacking him? TRUMP 2024.🤔
Ms Reid you are simply great to hold people to their words. Thank you thank you for not allowing people to rewrite history. Such a liar a true Republicans.
Yet when people tried to hold HER accountable for her words against gays in her tweets, she said someone hacked her account. Let's be fair now.
Well let her bring on Hakeem and ask him why is he backing Jim Crow Israel.
Here comes "But Whatabout".
wow abby philips from cnn shoul watch her and learn how to cut those lying a hole bs
Like ignoring that Jim Crow policies were and continue to be strictly a tool of the democratic party?
Byron Donald’s is the man!! Future VP and one day potus
They also leave out that those families raised the kids who turned out to be civil rights leaders revered by all today
So disconnected from the Black American people.
Just sad
This so call man fas 3 mixed children just wait Byron omg
no....they hate dads
Jim Crow our ancestors had no homes
Get him Joy yes 🙌🏾
Thanks for your report Joy! This guy is a flat out liar who did not answer your questions directly.. typical sell out Republican 🤑
This guy is a shame on the black race.
@@barbarabeckley8732I said the same thing!!! (Game of Thrones) SHAME,SHAME,SHAME!!!🤦🏾♀️
Twisting the real point has become a trade for people these days. I think the congressman was trying to say that even as bad as the Jim Crow era was, marriages lasted longer than what it is now. He never called it a golden age .
I think we should be respectful and responsible. The real point we should have been interested in is "why are marriages not lasting these days and what can we do to make it better?"
We cannot deny the fact that children need both parents. Statistics says it all when you look at the relationship between crime rates and broken homes.
Can we be sober and stop the politics for once?
He specifically was talking about the marriage rates! Y’all are slow in the comments.. so much gaslighting!
Donald's their nothing positive about Jim crow!
Didn’t you watch the video? He said he was talking about those years during Jim Crow.
Nothing positive about Cadaver in Chief that pooped in his pants in France and had to be escorted out by Jil.
He And implicitly stated that. Clown@@Christian-di8zu
@@rod1514 she literally played the clip of his whole remarks..
@@Christian-di8zuWhy mention Jim Crow at all?
He's a coward!
and a huge ignorant clown 🤡
A big one
As a black man from the urban area I say He’s Right!!! And it’s crazy for the black dems to distort what he said.
@buddymaddix two words soerm bank
@@jonanderson2421They were under constant threat under Jim Crow.
How is he even going to TRY to loud-talk Joy Reid? Joy was reaching out, like Mama, to smack them lips.
Joy Reid acting like Bill O'Reilly. Classless Let the man speak.
@@mallymal77 He did speak. And he stuck his foot in his mouth. There are times to just be quiet.
@gregoryt1139 are you sure?!? Or are you in your feelings?! She didn't let him speak. When he tried she was being Mr Bill O'Reilly. I swore I was watching old school fox
@@mallymal77 I'm sure. When giving a *normal* interview, the host asks a question, and the guest answers that specific question. When the guest veers off into left field, in an attempt to evade answering the question, the host has to bring things back on topic. A guest that is cornered, will either hijack control through unending chatter, or get up and leave.
@gregoryt1139 he was going into the answer but maybe you heard something different? Joyless O'Reilly didn't want him to answer. Just be honest with yourself as well. He was there to answer but she didn't want him to answer.
You never see him talking to black people
Under jim crow black men had little or no authority to protect their wives or children
True but fathers were present. Look at the stats of % of family breakdown pre 1970's to now. That's the only thing that is valid but it isn't his argument. He's following MAGA
place that to BIDEN.
You dems are just out of your minds with all the spin, TDR, incompetency, and gas lighting. Everything that this man said is fact, but you want to focus on the term Jim Crowe. In fact, you should focus on it, and here is the question you should ask, that he failed to explain. How exactly did black families do better from a structure standpoint in a way more racist society than what we have today?
Do you understand that? It is statistical fact that pre great society/civil rights act that black families only had a 25% single motherhood rate. After that, and leading to today the rate is over 75%. That is horrible and what you should care about other than this fake outrage being vomited out your mouths.
As someone who is for the success of the black community, I think every possible step should be taken to combat this problem, which is the common denominator to success or poverty regardless of race. Look at the stats, take fathers out the home for any race and the outcome is the same. Unfortunately, the black community has had to struggle with this always, starting with the effects of broken families through slavery, and on into the fallout from incentivizing single motherhood through great society/wellfare acts. Strangly, the only time they did not suffer from single motherhood was during the racist Jim Crowe. To me this showed the backbone, resiliency, and moral fiber of black people when they could only depend on themselves.
Nobody, is advocating a return to Jim Crowe, just pointing out that black people are strong enough to help themselves and that some of these acts that were supposed to help, only crippled. We should learn from this and find a better path instead of gaslighting and trying to twist the narrative based off terminology.
He has sold his soul. It’s as simple as that.
Which was the point of Joy's rebuttal.
watching byron and tim scott motivates me to vote for biden more and more... F-MAGA!
Of course, because you hate black kids having a two-parent household.
Are more motivated by Joe’s senility or his showers with his 11 year old daughter?
I second that!! Biden/Harris 2024💙🌊🙏🏽🇺🇲
You don't want to make america great again?
I heard an older gentleman in the background agreeing with him
I'm absolutely sure that he could have framed that fact around something else ... say the civil rights movement, voting rights, the decades that the facts were referenced. It was a poor choice of words to give backhanded credit to Jim Crow. It doesn't even matter if it's true. B card gonna get revoked!
More of this on our networks please. Stop soft balling these lying politicians and educate them.
Where is his BLACK FAMILY 😔😮🎉🎉
Rioting probably
They don’t claim him
Everywhere!!!
@slayeroftrolls1200 really you seem more like a racist than a slayer. Try racistoftrolls1200. It makes more sense.
@@slayeroftrolls1200 Shut up Bigots!!!
Why idealize ANY family during a time when women didn't have a choice, they couldn't live anywhere except with a man.
Exactly.. baby that liquor had him acting a fool but momma always say what is in the heart the mouth will speak.. Liquor is a truth serum eh..
Wait. The Left can’t even define a woman, so what are you talking about?
Vote blue 💙 Biden/Harris 2024
Are you really that simple minded?
If you eant to be single nobody is stopping you! im sure you're single now!!
What is she talking about? He didnt say that jim crow was good, he says that black fathers were present in a domestic setting back then. Why is she triggered by a beautiful thing as having both a mother and a father??? Its just so idiotic
Play the entire clip, just stop gaslighting. As we see he told you to your face that’s not what he said. Just stop we hurting out here, STOP!
As a lifetime conservative with a cousin who is a Republican Governor, I will never vote for this party again.
Sucks to Be YOU!
I don't believe you
@@jaquayvius She has awakened! Hopefully, others will follow!
Cap
I've heard that so many times from Republicans. They lie.
joy handed byron his A$$ that’s how you cover that BS
What is Byron wrong on?
@@Jerry-tv4bgNot being a part of the hive mind mindset. The man has a thought and is black. That’s wrong to this lefties.
😆 not at all I don't know what segment you were watching but Byron is too smart for all of them...TRY having on Mark Levin...😆
I bet you believed Hunters laptop was Russian Disinformation 😅
You sound boosted.
The defeated growl on his face speaks volumes. He wasn't ready for Joy's strength and historical nature. She is a professional and you must ALWAYS be ready to face the music with a professional black woman. In order to achieve what she has achieved, she had to be overqualified in the first place. In my opinion, he was just not ready.
I have two degrees, and I was an excellent student. There were certain classes that I could walk into and pass with an exceptional score with minimal studying time. Then there were classes such as Statistics and Quantitative Methods that took more time, thought, and studying so that I could score extremely high grades. When dealing with someone of Joy's caliber and political strength, he DID NOT do his homework!
I am truly embarrassed for him. His face being boxed up like that says a lot.
As a 35 year old black Male i totally understand what hes saying if you missed it you just missed! Im not a Dem or Rep but it save to say times running out on the Dem party honestly the millinuals are not going for that anymore 🤣
During jim crow black people could not vote.
They could but had to guess the number of jellybeans in the jar
And when they did vote they often and frequently voted Republican
@alliwishis_2 Blacks in the US could not vote prior to the Voting Rights Act of 1965. When President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as well as the Voting Rights Act of 1965, southern White Democrats switched to what is now the Republican Party of today. Rep. Donalds failed to mention that in his little speech in Philadelphia.
@@alliwishis_2 Yes, when Republicans were LIBERALS and Democrats were CONSERVATIVES.
@@alliwishis_2 You are right! The problem has always been CONSERVATIVES. They first polluted the Democratic party, then the Republican party wanted them since Nixon. Now, they've polluted the Republican party. Look at the states that wereJim Crow on a map and how it swapped parties because of them. You are right! CONSERVATIVES ARE THE PROBLEM!
Thank you Joy for schooling that young man!! He should not call his father bro!! That cigar and brown liquor got his forked tongue loose!! Loose lips sinks ships!!
😂🌊💙👍🏽
Yessss
She didn't though 😅
Yall know what he meant. Stop the stupid stuff man.
so stating that
marriage rates were higher under a more repressive government means we support that government now? No that’s not what he said nor what he implied. My Father grew up in Mississippi in the 40s and 50s he says the same thing. It’s a demonstrable fact black families were stronger back then period. Now most black kids are raised by a single mother.
Yes! The numbers prove it as well. 20% of black children grew up in a single-parent household 80 years ago. Now it’s 70% of black children growing up in single-parent homes
Shame on us if we let these people back in office….
ICAM!!
You want to keep racists in power and you want to keep the non racist away from power 🤔
You don't let people in office, you vote them in office.
Biden. Yep. Right on
I am still waiting for Joy to play where Byron Donalds says Jim Crow was a golden era.
By the way he clearly DURING Jim Crow and not BECAUSE OF
You need to talk to the black people who actually lived in that era
His family didn’t either he’s Caribbean
@@charleeshaw7423 So what does that mean? The man had black grandparents!
He said the family unite stayed together.. He never said it was the Golden Era . Gaslighting much
@@SheriL1 Means his folks didn't live through it cause they're immigrants
I have and the Black Community was Matriarchal with core values in faith and family, if you counted Common Law Marriages the stats be bigger among marriages until the liberal indoctrination, Malcolm warned about
Byron has to just go in hiding, this is embarrassing
He’s fine this lady is a race baiter to make her views every night
Although things were terrible for blacks during that time black familes were together and married. Today we have more freedoms and money, but the black family is more fractured. Look at the number of single family homes, and all of the babies being born out of wedlock.😮
Guys like this are a embarrassment to our community .
Are "an" embarrassment...Are you even black at all? Here we have this migrant black woman donning blonde hair ...That is the embarrassment to the community
CIA bot
Wow!!!!!!!
What about blonde hair?
I respectfully disagree
Donald's you can't clean this up!
He has no idea of what he is doing and talking about.
Speechless cause he knows nothing of what he is talking about.
You ain't never lied.
Did you listen to what he said?
@@ec3499Liberals don’t ever actually listen. They’re simpletons.
Joy uses a familiar formula: Take a statement by a conservative, ignore its plain meaning (in this case, that before President Lyndon B. Johnson's "war on poverty" welfare programs, Black family units were stronger, despite the oppression they endured), and substitute a completely false idea that Donalds praised the Jim Crow era.
And then, after laying out the indisputable evils of those Jim Crow laws, he ends by misleadingly saying that Donalds claimed "Black people had it better during the Jim Crow days."
Joy should know that everyone has a right to their own opinions but not to their own facts.
That was one incident where the father failed to protect his family, but that was the norm is American society with black families.
Well done 👍 Sis Joy for calling Byron out. This bro has lost is mind.
I urge you to do some research on Bryon Donalds. The guy is a rockstar. I recommend you listen to his conversation with Stephen A. Smith on Smith's podcast.
Sis Joy?? Dwlllll calling out what? Did you listen to what he said? He said during an era(Jim Crow) black families were together which is a good thing. During LBJ if you remember the show Julia where they were giving benefits to the family but only if the men weren’t in the homes because of that it caused a destabilization of the black families. That’s the comparison. He NEVER said we were better off that’s your lying Sis Joy Reid spreading her usual propaganda. Y’all soak it up like babies. My people PERISH because they don’t do research for themselves. Bout Sis Joy if you professing Christ surely we should not embrace the world she’s for the streets. Come back at me all you want to, this battle belongs to God so go ahead condemn yourself
@@SoCalG310 He is just another criminal who is in the wrong profession.
No she didn’t…she was just race baiting!
@@SoCalG310 lol. He is a doofus, but so is Joy Reid.
Under Jim Crow, he wouldn't even be able to talk about Jim Crow. He is a good toe stepper.
He would die or be in prison dating a white woman in the Jim Crow era.
All communities are seeing a drop in marriages, not just ours.
But yours is highest in single parents. Highest in abortion. Highest in crime rates per 100k. Highest in use of government assistance. More black people are murdered than any other race, and by their own race.
All by design of the very people you keep in office. Biden voted to keep kids in segregated schools, and voted to incarcerate for small amounts of drug possession, to lock up black men.
And they're laughing all the way to the white house about it.
(rhode island) "william jacobson's EPP" is trying to reverse protections regarding Minority Women Business Ownership. Please spread the word🙏💓
The point she’s saying sir is you should have not said Jim Crow.
It gets attention. Attention gets views. Views is good for business. This is how media makes money by getting paid by advertisers to place their product in front of viewers.
he should have. how can a woman from Africa tell a black American that she's offended by him referring to our history in context?!
he said absolutely nothing wrong
Exactly! What's more, to have a group of white men agree with him.🤡
@@IAmAlmightyGod, oh yes he did, he opened his useless historically uneducated mouth.
That’s a SICK man.
Just a sold out Trump bootlicker .
Just like Clarence Thomas, twisted!
Byron is such a "Good Colored Boy", when the Confederacy comes back I am going to purchase him. Heck, I might purchase Tim Scott too.
Right! I forgot about Tim Scott! Such an opportunist, like many pro-Trump officials. Another annoying one is Nikki Haley. She is not black but she sure is an opportunist and a fake!
Yall so lost
Tim and Byron really benefit from the Republicans needing one black dude in the mix..disgusting.
"In our culture" good job Soror. What 😲 is he talking about. Thanks for giving him the definition of Jim Crow.
This is why we are losing our Democracy. We have too many politicians like Donalds who will say anything they are told to say if they want to stay in good standing with those with extreme amounts of money and power and it's sick!
So true..........
This man has a mind of his own and won't follow the herd. We ain't cattle bruh. Think for yourself.
@@lemarcusbrown1708 In the Republican party the herd mentality is saying whatever they are told for money and power. It's not about black or white - it's about following the money my friend. And yes, there are plenty of corporate Democrats who are just as guilty. I will criticize those with money and power who lie to the American people no matter which side of the aisle they are on. Can we agree on that?
Marriage rates has declined across all demographics
Freedom usually does that. Thank god for the gains made of the 20th in civil rights and feminism.
Exactly! Donalds wants us to believe there's a Dem conspiracy to keep black people down, when he should be looking to his own party bosses, especially ol' Dumpy 💩🍊💩
75% divorces
Exactly. This is definitely not just a black thing.
@@marcus813but who has the highest rates?
So why bring up Jim Crow if it was only to be misunderstood . Unless he had a point to make which he cannot do even now perhaps we must assume he wanted to cloud the conversation and had some reason to confuse the issues.
He does not know the history of Jim Crow and is counting on others not to know either. He should admit that that was wrong. If he wanted to make a point about black families, he could have quoted the Moynihan Report of 1965. But he would not, as this study was during the administration of LBJ, and it covered other findings like policing, poverty, etc. He really stepped in it.
He accuses Democrats of gaslighting when he was gaslighting. I am sick of the hypocrisy. Also note that the Republican Party used to believe in helping the American people. Somewhere along the way, they stopped caring about helping the American people.
Republicans wrote the book on gaslighting and grandstanding ask Gym Jordan and the rest of losers.
Every accusation....
It’s the polarization and heavy monetization of politics. It means that people cannot concede that the “other side” has a point without fearing they’re losing ground.
It’s unfortunate and foolish to persist in this, in my opinion.
How specifically did he gaslight anyone in this segment?
@@ACFinLA He's acting like he did not specifically say "Jim Crow era" instead of saying for example "in the past". Why single that era out specifically? What else was going on at that time? Oh, right.
Saw it live. Wow Joy was strong and prepared.!
What was Byron wrong on?
And CNN Abby Phillips did a great job.
@@Jerry-tv4bg Everything
He's a racist lover
How? She literally said something he DID NOT SAY and had nerve to replay to verify he DID NOT SAY IT !
If I was Rep. Byron Donalds, I would end the interview. I would never allow this type of crap to take place while I'm being interviewed. He doesn't need permission on what he can and cannot say when he wants to say it. Now he's being cruficied for speaking facts.
She is debating him and trying to make him look dumb..what is her job? She has an agenda
She don't have to make him look like stupid he did a good job of that own his own
Yes she does have a agenda To expose hippocracy At lying Yes you did a dog gone good job Okay
She did a dog gone good job exposing him
Can I "like" Joy a thousand times for calling another GOP double-talker out? It's her show. Thank you Joy!
He literally could’ve just brought up that a married couple is a better family unit without bringing up Jim Crow. He insinuated life was better for black Americans under that time by even invoking it. It wasn’t necessary. He chose to say it, and now he’s backtracking.
What I would get out of what he said is that Black families were more together under oppression. We had to be. And btw, it didn't start off like. Right after slavery there were a lot of homes where the father wasn't really there because that's what they did in slavery. The slave owners separated the men from the women, so a Black man would sleep with many women.
But as time moved on Black men became more committed to his family unit. What Rep. Donalds is saying, is that the Democrats have found a way to weaken the Black family unit without physically lynching the Black man.
The policies in government encourage mothers to be single and have fathers out of their homes.
You always hear Democrats talk about how the SCOTUS gutted the Voting Rights Act. They never tell you how. But Section 4 and 5 of the VRA were never meant to be permanent. Section 2 on the other hand can do everything that's needed to enforce voting rights.
The only difference is that Section 4 had a road block and made certain states and districts with a history of disenfranchising (minority) voters - such as New York City - get preclearance with the DOJ before any new district lines could go forward.
But let's say that a city or state disagreed with a negative outcome. It could go to court and try to have a court disagree with the DOJ.
That can still happen. An aggrieved party can go to the DOJ with a complaint, and perhaps court. But oftentimes the DOJ would side or decide not to intervene leaving a disgruntled person or group no other choice but court.
Obama and Eric Holder could have created new preclearance measures when Congress was all Democrat. But they didn't.
So the use of the word "gutted" without explaining anything is Democrat Slickness.
Your projecting i didn’t get that from his comments at all
You wrote a whole dissertation related to the context of what Rep. Donald said and failed to bring any clarity to what was said specific to the Jim Crow era and the black family unit as it relates to the impact of father being in the home and the difference it made during this time period.
@@dimdimbaby Just stop talking. You sound as stupid as Byron.
He’s a bullhorn to whites he’s appealing to Maga
I mean bro you talking to a black woman with a dark blonde wig on its hard waking people up from they sleep
This person is too ignorant and void of both logic and common sense to realize the point he's making that has nothing to do with the era or conditions. She lacks the wisdom to understand the benefits and blessings that having both a father and a mother in a household has throughout history been the ideal environment for raising children and building a strong and sound family. She is also unaware that it is the proper order and the foundation for social order and the building of a civil society.
He is deranged
Well, he is a Republican.
That's putting it mildly!
no, youre jut racist