These comment sections are so stupid, I have all brands of tools, ALL, I use my tools, not stare at them in my tool box & I quit buying from tool trucks when I left the dealership, it’s a pita to warranty them out
My tools range from Harbor Freight to Snap-on for my DIY and automotive repair side work. I recently dropped a channel where all the Feller did was talk about tools. I dropped other channels over the years for basically the same reason. I never saw anything posted on his channel about automotive repair or anything indicating such in the “about” section of the channel. The Feller never did any tool reviews or tool testing. But he would be quick to run down a big box store and always talking about buying the tool truck tools or pert near any other tool brand. One favorite saying was “use your money wisely”. How about using your money to invest in training to be better at the job you do, instead of just talking about tools and running down someone else for the brand of tools they prefer to use. All this Feller appeared to be is a bunch of talk, I bet he gets his tongue sunburned.
LOL... what I love is all the people that bash non tool truck brands but fail to realize that they are a fraction of the cost of the tool truck brands and many times have better warranties (at least easier to redeem than tool truck brands) !!!
@Sid The sloth ... yes sir ... I believe it and it happens all the time - are Snap On good tools ? Yes - are they worth as much as they charge ? No !!!
Buy your Icon at 25% off or better. I just bought everything below today for 25% off with the promotion that just started 1/4, 3/8 and1/2 drive short and deep SAE & metric (12 sets of sockets total) SAE and metric nut drivers 1/4,3/8, and 1/2 ratchets Wrench pliers SAE and metric stubby wrenches I’m guessing it was about $700 total. It was over several receipts, so I don’t have a number locked in my head. It’s not Snap On, but I didn’t spend $5000 either.
I have icon double flex head ratcheting wrenches, I broke one and brought it in to harbor freight and they gave me a hard time about it and wouldn’t warranty anything I had. A new harbor freight opened closer to me and I brought in there and they swapped it out for me no questions asked. If your closest harbor freight won’t warranty it try another one. Or even just trying again another time it’s really up to to the person working at that time, whether they want to be bothered to warranty your tools for you.
The swivel head ratchet is exactly the same design as a very old S-K I have, which has been my favorite ratchet for the past 50 years. Of course my has just a knurled metal handle instead of the plastic so popular these days, but that design is the best.
Icon is a mixed bag for me. I have 4 different ratchets and they've been great for me over the last year since I took on mechanic work as a career. On the other hand I bought a set of their extractors, opened them, and drove straight back to the store to return them. Three of the extractors in the kit were practically smooth on the part meant to bite into the broken bolt. That being said they let me return them no issue even though I'd torn up the box. I've had to warranty out one of my ratchets and it was a quick easy process and I wasn't even asked for a receipt. As for pliers, in my opinion nothing beats snap on and knipex. Especially knipex. I have three different sized pairs of cobras and a set of twin grips, and they've made their money back with how many times they've saved my ass
You do realize those tools are forged and not cast. I think the icon tools are not bad they're one poor with other tools made in Taiwan but I only buy them when there's 25 or 30% off coupon
Lol so true. I got a set of pittsburg long box end wrenches, the whole set was $20. Went from like 10mm to 24mm, seems like I almost got my money's worth in the melt value of all that steel. They were so bad though, looked horrible and the 14mm barely fit my toyota tensioner. It was pretty loose fitting on the bolt head but it did get the tensioner loose enough to get the belt on, so I'm happy.
Those roto head ratchets are always like that they have a lot of backdrag haven’t tried the snap on but gearwrench napa Carlyle and others similar are fairly similar with that backdrag
@@tinshum7412 the icon tools actually came in pretty clutch for my drum brake job, the cheaper tools flexed on the pivot point and the grip texture was able to grab the springs!
The ICON ratchets aren't bad at all, I've got a couple of them in my farm service truck for field work. By no means are they as good as my SnapOn ratchets at work, but for the price they work great for in the field use. I've looked at some of their pliers before, but haven't bought any yet, and probably won't. When it comes to pliers Knipex has got that market figured out.
Explain why they're not as good as snap on? Because the USA stamped in the steel makes them better? I have 4 snap on ratchets the dual 80"s. They same as my Icons. Only better because says USA other than that nobody's ever proven them to be better. So at $150 for a snap on ratchet and $44 for an Icon. My new gearwrench 120XP locking flex... nothing tops them! Nothing! They are the Supreme king of ratchets! Snap on can't touch them.
I have mainly Snap on an Matco. But I like Icon. I have probably 5-6 ratchets. An I got several of their pliers. Their no Snap on or Knipex but I don’t mind them. They work just fine.
I have a couple Icon pliers. Seem like a good quality tool. Have not have had any problems with them at all. However the price is not to far off of the tool truck price.
I love icon, I have pretty much all icon at work but their pliers are kinda odd feeling. I don’t like the material they make the grips out of at all. Now I never had problems with their pliers but I’d rather use knipex
@@sethh8892 If that happened to me I'd probably have the same opinion. Not sure if I have extremely good luck or if you have terribly bad luck. To each their own.
I don't get why you think they'll "probably wear out pretty quick" - I've got several Icon ratchets and used them a ton, including the 3/8" and 1/4" rotos. They've all been great, and haven't missed a beat. I'm not sure the mechanism was the problem there - seems like you just weren't used to it. As far as the Pliers Wrench, I have three pairs of the Knipex and the Icon, and all of them are great. I wouldn't warn anyone away from Knipex, but the same is true of the Icon. It doesn't open *quite* as wide and can't use the soft jaws my Knipex pair can, but work great. The handles are soft but not slick with oil/grease in my experience.
The prices are pushing above other budget "professional" grade tools that me and other people have been buying for years. With their warranty issues on individual tools that come in sets I'm just gonna stay away from the brand.
Could these tools be straight out of the same machines in the same factory’s as the big money brands but sold as a cheaper brand as they have failed quality control for minor things that the big brands don’t let pass but to most people don’t matter? Those slip joint pliers are as far as I can see exactly the same as the snap on set I have. And the plier wrench looks identical to a knipex set. Maybe the finish and the adjustment wasn’t to knipex spec so they go in the icon pile?
I agree, most my tools at work are all icon. I have icon pliers and knipex and the icon pliers I just don’t like. Mainly the gripping material. The tools themselves are amazing but I just don’t like the handles. Maybe they get better after they age but brand new they feel weird
Agree but I do want to try the ICON stuff. I have 95% Snap-on hand tools and have to remind myself that ICON will feel different for sure, even though they're almost an exact copy of Snap-on. With that, I just learned from my MAC dealer that there are in fact MAC USA pliers and non-USA options so yeah, that's cool.
I have to laugh at all the Snap On fan boys that are so butt hurt about Icon tools. I owned alot of snap on tools that I used everyday for years. No doubt snap on is the best, but Icon tools are pretty good tools for the price point. A fellow mechanic has had Icon tools now for about three years, uses them everyday, wrenches, sockets-chrome and impact, ratchets and pliers. This is all he uses and he is not gentle on his stuff. All his Icon tools have held up, no issues at all. Some guys can't afford Snap On tools nor do they want to go into tool debt. I prefer to buy decent tools at a fraction of the price and spend my hard earned money else where and have a little fun instead of me giving my money to the Snap On guy so he can have fun. Just a thought
Personally I do like Icon tools, are they “Tool Truck” quality no they’re not. They are however Husky, Kobalt, Craftsman(Stanley) quality. With the ability to replace in store when it breaks is nice. Yes tool truck tools break too I’ve broken SnapOn, Mac, Matco, SK, Tekton, Craftsman (USA), Milwaukee etc. however when at home or at work if I break a tool on a job/project I need the tool right then not next Wednesday when tool truck arrives, or even worse with Tekton and Milwaukee snapshot mail in replacement. So yes I buy big box house brand tools with pride so long as it has in house returns. Now if you’re a mindless gorilla who puts pipes on ratchets and jerks and tugs it you’re going to break that ratchet regardless who makes it as NO RATCHET was ever designed for that. You use a damn breaker bar. If you argue that then you are not even a mechanic let alone a professional you are and forever will be a no good grease monkey unfit to work on a Schwinn
Tekton won’t make you return a tool for a warranty. Just take photo and they will have you a replacement in two days, you won’t even pay for any shipping.
@@donaldhollums3278 depends where you live and when they ship it. Takes 5-10 days for Tekton to get replacements. But even if it was 2 HD, HF, Lowes are 10 mins from where I work or 30 mins from where I live. So that alone is why I don’t buy Tekton, Gearerench, or Milwaukee hand tools. As I said if I break the tool when I’m using it on a job I can’t wait 2 days. It’s also why I stopped buying from tool trucks.
@@Bob-gy6ud I certainly understand the convenience of the aforementioned stores being near by. HF, Lowe’s and HD are about 10 minutes from my house as well. I was using NAPA as my parts store and “tool truck” for a while, but that was too inconvenient with only one NAPA being a 20-25 minute one way drive from my house. I have been in HF and Lowe’s more than HD. I reckon to have been in HD three times in 5 years. I’m sure your tools get more use than mine for the time being, my side work is on hold while doing some schooling during the foreseeable future for my job in another line of work. I still do my own vehicles all I can in the meantime.
ruclips.net/video/Jg38fvLR6-k/видео.htmlsi=kpLHq0swf7MrY_7C here’s a link from there youtube channel on how to pronounce it and the K is definitely not silent lol. Do your research boss
Welcome to HOBO Freight! Were better then you and we know it! Breaks all tools after 24 hours of use. I will go spend my money on something better like Gearwrench, Tekton, Capri Tools, Astro Pneumatic that come around really similar price points. Glorified garbage when Harbor Freight should just make their own design and stop mimicking top brand companies..
LOL... these are actually very good and for the price and with the warranty ... excellent !!! Now if you want the Snap On or other brand ... just spend the money and get it !!!
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These comment sections are so stupid, I have all brands of tools, ALL, I use my tools, not stare at them in my tool box & I quit buying from tool trucks when I left the dealership, it’s a pita to warranty them out
My tools range from Harbor Freight to Snap-on for my DIY and automotive repair side work. I recently dropped a channel where all the Feller did was talk about tools. I dropped other channels over the years for basically the same reason. I never saw anything posted on his channel about automotive repair or anything indicating such in the “about” section of the channel. The Feller never did any tool reviews or tool testing. But he would be quick to run down a big box store and always talking about buying the tool truck tools or pert near any other tool brand. One favorite saying was “use your money wisely”. How about using your money to invest in training to be better at the job you do, instead of just talking about tools and running down someone else for the brand of tools they prefer to use. All this Feller appeared to be is a bunch of talk, I bet he gets his tongue sunburned.
LOL... what I love is all the people that bash non tool truck brands but fail to realize that they are a fraction of the cost of the tool truck brands and many times have better warranties (at least easier to redeem than tool truck brands) !!!
@@marcc482 That’s the truth
@Sid The sloth ... yes sir ... I believe it and it happens all the time - are Snap On good tools ? Yes - are they worth as much as they charge ? No !!!
@Sid The sloth my Snap-on guy rebuilds them in the truck.
Buy your Icon at 25% off or better. I just bought everything below today for 25% off with the promotion that just started
1/4, 3/8 and1/2 drive short and deep SAE & metric (12 sets of sockets total)
SAE and metric nut drivers
1/4,3/8, and 1/2 ratchets
Wrench pliers
SAE and metric stubby wrenches
I’m guessing it was about $700 total. It was over several receipts, so I don’t have a number locked in my head.
It’s not Snap On, but I didn’t spend $5000 either.
Only buy with 20-30% off coupons.
Eh. He got more for less than my 1/4 in snap on hard handle ratchet
I have icon double flex head ratcheting wrenches, I broke one and brought it in to harbor freight and they gave me a hard time about it and wouldn’t warranty anything I had. A new harbor freight opened closer to me and I brought in there and they swapped it out for me no questions asked. If your closest harbor freight won’t warranty it try another one. Or even just trying again another time it’s really up to to the person working at that time, whether they want to be bothered to warranty your tools for you.
The swivel head ratchet is exactly the same design as a very old S-K I have, which has been my favorite ratchet for the past 50 years. Of course my has just a knurled metal handle instead of the plastic so popular these days, but that design is the best.
Icon is a mixed bag for me. I have 4 different ratchets and they've been great for me over the last year since I took on mechanic work as a career. On the other hand I bought a set of their extractors, opened them, and drove straight back to the store to return them. Three of the extractors in the kit were practically smooth on the part meant to bite into the broken bolt. That being said they let me return them no issue even though I'd torn up the box. I've had to warranty out one of my ratchets and it was a quick easy process and I wasn't even asked for a receipt.
As for pliers, in my opinion nothing beats snap on and knipex. Especially knipex. I have three different sized pairs of cobras and a set of twin grips, and they've made their money back with how many times they've saved my ass
ICON Toolboxes are amazing. Got 56" last Apr and I could not be happier with premium quality. Only wish I could have bought 73".
I want that new 72” in white with black trim soooo bad.
You do realize those tools are forged and not cast.
I think the icon tools are not bad they're one poor with other tools made in Taiwan but I only buy them when there's 25 or 30% off coupon
I like all my icon tools. Thanks for sharing your journey
I've found that unless a tool is rock bottom in quality, they all do what is required of them.
Lol so true. I got a set of pittsburg long box end wrenches, the whole set was $20. Went from like 10mm to 24mm, seems like I almost got my money's worth in the melt value of all that steel. They were so bad though, looked horrible and the 14mm barely fit my toyota tensioner. It was pretty loose fitting on the bolt head but it did get the tensioner loose enough to get the belt on, so I'm happy.
Those roto head ratchets are always like that they have a lot of backdrag haven’t tried the snap on but gearwrench napa Carlyle and others similar are fairly similar with that backdrag
That ratchet goes a long way , haven't tried the pliers, i do use the DOYLE pliers daily for years now
Lmao when you said the pliers wrench casting was shitty😂
Yes, they are worth it!!! Any tool that gets the job done and u make money at it is worth it 🔧🔧🔧🔧🔧
Lol I got the same knipex knockoffs and loved em enough to get a few others. That swivel ratchet looks pretty sweet too !
I surprisingly really like the swivel ratchet. At first it felt kind of clunky but once i used it and broke it in its been really good
HF dropped the price of this Knipex knockoff a few months ago.
I picked up one @$29.99 plus tax and it works pretty well so far.
😅😅😅
@@tinshum7412 the icon tools actually came in pretty clutch for my drum brake job, the cheaper tools flexed on the pivot point and the grip texture was able to grab the springs!
The ICON ratchets aren't bad at all, I've got a couple of them in my farm service truck for field work. By no means are they as good as my SnapOn ratchets at work, but for the price they work great for in the field use.
I've looked at some of their pliers before, but haven't bought any yet, and probably won't. When it comes to pliers Knipex has got that market figured out.
Explain why they're not as good as snap on? Because the USA stamped in the steel makes them better? I have 4 snap on ratchets the dual 80"s. They same as my Icons. Only better because says USA other than that nobody's ever proven them to be better. So at $150 for a snap on ratchet and $44 for an Icon. My new gearwrench 120XP locking flex... nothing tops them! Nothing! They are the Supreme king of ratchets! Snap on can't touch them.
I have mainly Snap on an Matco. But I like Icon. I have probably 5-6 ratchets. An I got several of their pliers. Their no Snap on or Knipex but I don’t mind them. They work just fine.
I've had a 3/8 Icon ratchet since 2019 and haven't used the warranty yet.
I have a couple Icon pliers. Seem like a good quality tool. Have not have had any problems with them at all. However the price is not to far off of the tool truck price.
I love icon, I have pretty much all icon at work but their pliers are kinda odd feeling. I don’t like the material they make the grips out of at all. Now I never had problems with their pliers but I’d rather use knipex
I love my Snap On tools. But my Icons are easily 90-95% as good in terms of quality and performance.
mine have broken to many times for me to like it.
@@sethh8892 If that happened to me I'd probably have the same opinion. Not sure if I have extremely good luck or if you have terribly bad luck. To each their own.
I don't get why you think they'll "probably wear out pretty quick" - I've got several Icon ratchets and used them a ton, including the 3/8" and 1/4" rotos. They've all been great, and haven't missed a beat. I'm not sure the mechanism was the problem there - seems like you just weren't used to it. As far as the Pliers Wrench, I have three pairs of the Knipex and the Icon, and all of them are great. I wouldn't warn anyone away from Knipex, but the same is true of the Icon. It doesn't open *quite* as wide and can't use the soft jaws my Knipex pair can, but work great. The handles are soft but not slick with oil/grease in my experience.
The prices are pushing above other budget "professional" grade tools that me and other people have been buying for years. With their warranty issues on individual tools that come in sets I'm just gonna stay away from the brand.
Set?
At the end of the day not bad tools they work ok I use everyday on car repairs no issues
25% off for icon specific tools are the best time to buy
the kinipix pliers and likely the others are not cast, they are forged.
Red dye cost a lot of money.Even Milwaukee faded there bright red.
Could these tools be straight out of the same machines in the same factory’s as the big money brands but sold as a cheaper brand as they have failed quality control for minor things that the big brands don’t let pass but to most people don’t matter? Those slip joint pliers are as far as I can see exactly the same as the snap on set I have. And the plier wrench looks identical to a knipex set. Maybe the finish and the adjustment wasn’t to knipex spec so they go in the icon pile?
Why would anyone use slip-joint pliers yo lift? Take snap ring off and dab a little grease in the rachet, I do that withevery new rachet I ever got.🤘🏽
I’d prefer buying used Knipex, snap on, Mac (USA Mac), Proto, Wilde, Klein, Channellock, etc. But to each their own.
I agree, most my tools at work are all icon. I have icon pliers and knipex and the icon pliers I just don’t like. Mainly the gripping material. The tools themselves are amazing but I just don’t like the handles. Maybe they get better after they age but brand new they feel weird
Agree but I do want to try the ICON stuff. I have 95% Snap-on hand tools and have to remind myself that ICON will feel different for sure, even though they're almost an exact copy of Snap-on. With that, I just learned from my MAC dealer that there are in fact MAC USA pliers and non-USA options so yeah, that's cool.
I have to laugh at all the Snap On fan boys that are so butt hurt about Icon tools. I owned alot of snap on tools that I used everyday for years. No doubt snap on is the best, but Icon tools are pretty good tools for the price point. A fellow mechanic has had Icon tools now for about three years, uses them everyday, wrenches, sockets-chrome and impact, ratchets and pliers. This is all he uses and he is not gentle on his stuff. All his Icon tools have held up, no issues at all. Some guys can't afford Snap On tools nor do they want to go into tool debt. I prefer to buy decent tools at a fraction of the price and spend my hard earned money else where and have a little fun instead of me giving my money to the Snap On guy so he can have fun. Just a thought
Personally I do like Icon tools, are they “Tool Truck” quality no they’re not. They are however Husky, Kobalt, Craftsman(Stanley) quality. With the ability to replace in store when it breaks is nice.
Yes tool truck tools break too I’ve broken SnapOn, Mac, Matco, SK, Tekton, Craftsman (USA), Milwaukee etc. however when at home or at work if I break a tool on a job/project I need the tool right then not next Wednesday when tool truck arrives, or even worse with Tekton and Milwaukee snapshot mail in replacement. So yes I buy big box house brand tools with pride so long as it has in house returns.
Now if you’re a mindless gorilla who puts pipes on ratchets and jerks and tugs it you’re going to break that ratchet regardless who makes it as NO RATCHET was ever designed for that. You use a damn breaker bar. If you argue that then you are not even a mechanic let alone a professional you are and forever will be a no good grease monkey unfit to work on a Schwinn
Tekton won’t make you return a tool for a warranty. Just take photo and they will have you a replacement in two days, you won’t even pay for any shipping.
@@donaldhollums3278 depends where you live and when they ship it. Takes 5-10 days for Tekton to get replacements. But even if it was 2 HD, HF, Lowes are 10 mins from where I work or 30 mins from where I live. So that alone is why I don’t buy Tekton, Gearerench, or Milwaukee hand tools. As I said if I break the tool when I’m using it on a job I can’t wait 2 days. It’s also why I stopped buying from tool trucks.
@@Bob-gy6ud I certainly understand the convenience of the aforementioned stores being near by. HF, Lowe’s and HD are about 10 minutes from my house as well. I was using NAPA as my parts store and “tool truck” for a while, but that was too inconvenient with only one NAPA being a 20-25 minute one way drive from my house. I have been in HF and Lowe’s more than HD. I reckon to have been in HD three times in 5 years. I’m sure your tools get more use than mine for the time being, my side work is on hold while doing some schooling during the foreseeable future for my job in another line of work. I still do my own vehicles all I can in the meantime.
Ratchets, sure, they're solid. The rest i'll spend the same dollar amount on Knipex.
They are both made in the same warehouse..lol dont be fooled
Are knockoffs worth it ?
No they're not.
You know I do not know, you know ?
Amazon has kinpex pilers wrench 7" for 50 bucks or 10" for 60 bucks. Not much more
I have a Carlyle round head flex head ratchet. It is exactly the same as a Mac Tools ratchet except the handle is a different color.
Did he just say a “kkhhh””Nipex???? It’s nipex silent k smh.
ruclips.net/video/Jg38fvLR6-k/видео.htmlsi=kpLHq0swf7MrY_7C here’s a link from there youtube channel on how to pronounce it and the K is definitely not silent lol. Do your research boss
No they are not. Your better off with Tekton or Capri
I stick to Swedish, German and English made tools. I'm sure Americans make some find hand tools though.
I'm pretty sure you can get the same thing for 10 dollars at the 99cent /dollar tree store. LOL
Snap-on 100% efficiency. Icon 95%. Snap-on 500% more expensive. The cost of the tool truck does not justify the precentile of quality
For the snap on commenters on here, you foolishly paid too much. Get over it!
Welcome to HOBO Freight! Were better then you and we know it! Breaks all tools after 24 hours of use. I will go spend my money on something better like Gearwrench, Tekton, Capri Tools, Astro Pneumatic that come around really similar price points. Glorified garbage when Harbor Freight should just make their own design and stop mimicking top brand companies..
LOL... these are actually very good and for the price and with the warranty ... excellent !!! Now if you want the Snap On or other brand ... just spend the money and get it !!!