I have loved Ace since 1973….but is anyone surprised he has not evolved or still plays sloppy? He was great from 74 - 78 and since then it’s the same style, same licks and a little degradation each year… he was pretty good in 1996. He is in 70s now, do you expect him to get better? He has never worked at his playing - even so the greatness of what he did between 74 and 78 still holds up. I don’t go see him play, I know what I will get and I am over it…but I still LOVE what he gave us.
Lucky for me I seen him like 7 or 8 years ago. Good band behind him. The drummer sang half the songs . The bass player a couple and ace jammed. Time to retire
I saw him about a year ago with Alice Cooper and i was was shocked to see how terrible he sounded , He i sounded drunk especially on NY Groove , I posted it on You Tube you can see what i mean ?? ruclips.net/video/YtiEHND-OKY/видео.html
Oh man....i had a bootleg VHS recording of a solo show he did in '94 with Richie Scarlett in the band...he was FN awesome ! Nothing like he is here ! I mean the singing especially...
There is no help that can fix this . This is age and hard lifestyle over many decades. He has been sober for years but the damage was already . Even after you get sober the damage from drugs and booze will still manifest as you age . Ace is old deaf burned out from his former lifestyle and he does nkg practice enough.
The special effects of the stage hands walking back and forth on stage really added to the show. 😆 I like Ace, but his strong point was never his singing and it was never more clear than now... If he wants to insist on playing, he should play in settings where he just plays his awesome lead guitar. Otherwise, it looks like he's overstayed his welcome at the party.
He doesn’t even fucking try. He basically recites what he can remember of the lyrics, and allows the cover band to do the rest. Totally embracing. And, people wonder why he’s not hanging around in KISS
@@StephanieTanchuk I’ll correct that statement for you. He fucked himself over financially with drinking, drugs, and irresponsibility over the last 50 years. While I agree Gene and Paul are selfish and egotistical, they didn’t bring on any financial troubles for Ace. He did that to himself.
I picked up electric guitar at 14. 1975. I learned Aces 2 or 3 licks. Now its 2023 and theyre still the only ones i know. Same with Ace though. Out of the original 4 Kiss members Ace was the one known for his musicianship.
@JD-sj1zn , Thanks for your respectful opinion. Usually when someone disagrees with a comment they take a cheap shot . I think Gene and Paul wore me out with their treatment of Ace and Peter. They shamed them publicly. But I'm a fan of what they once were.
I (respectfully) contest that, as a drummer personally. Peter was f'n awesome in the black and silver years, 73 up to about 77... there's been a rumor for YEARS he's the only truly live part of the first Alive. after 78ish I can see why everyone bags on Pete to be fair. hate to say that.. but it's true, look at him on the Dynasty tour for a refresher
Saw him last summer n he was great. Got a little lazy on his guitar solo but vocals were good. Got tickets to see him in the fall. Hope the enthusiasm returns
Many people say he’s drinking again ,if he was drunk he would probably be much better than this. He has no passion or fun playing anymore,he’s only out there to make money to support his lifestyle,because he’s not as wealthy as he wants to be. Probably blew most of his reunion money.
This is perfect example of why KISS should not even entertain him playing out the last few shows with them. I love Ace but this is just shameful. This playing and i don't give a fuck attitude ain't worth 250 bucks. never mind the 250k he is asking. It is a joke
Wow….I saw him in Jamestown, NY a couple months ago. It was great to see him, I love Ace and am a huge KISS fan. I even saw them in Erie, PA on the first Farewell Tour in 2000. This is hard to watch though. I think he’s digressed since I saw him in April. He played in Erie in 2012 which is on YT, and in that he seems 20+ years younger so he has aged substantially just in the past 10 years.
Bom dia a todos...Ace é uma lenda viva..carregou o Kiss nas costas durante anos. As melhores canções do Kiss ele deu sua alma. Se ele não tá cantando bem e tocando foda-se. O que importa é ver uma lenda viva em atividade. Ele chegou no topo, onde poucos conseguem. Tem um nome muito forte e conhecido no mundo todo.Ele precisa de ajuda e parar com a pior droga que existe, o álcool. Parar não para agradar o público, mas sim pra sua saúde.
It's like this power trio brought someone onto the stage who was drunk to the point of passing out. They work around his constant tempo changes. We still love you, Ace.
Ace you need to reconsider touring bro. No excitement or pep left in your step. Go enjoy a cocktail which it’s clear you are again. Enjoy life but stop with this torture
Wow! All those people taking videos. I'm so glad that they did or I wouldn't have been able to see this live performance. Hey make sure you you sit down and share your crappy video with your friends. You can all scrunch together on the couch and watch it together. Make sure watch your entire video, you know because you sacrificed watching the concert live because you were videoing.
My guess is that its more severe tinnitus causing his decline than his party past. Maybe a combo of both. All them years of bombs, hi volume, feedback spikes etc.. Tinnitus makes everything sound really chaotic at loud volume and greatly dulls the senses. Props to his band for being good and carrying him thru it.
After "Shock Me", he admitted to the crowd he was not feeling well and trying his best. That's maybe why he played so bad. But he should cut more of his singing and focus on guitar. Like "Speeding Back to My Baby", he would go train-wreck it if he tried to sing it
Something is definitely not right with Ace. Maybe missing out on the Kiss tour has broken him and he's relapsed. Gene and Paul (especially Gene) strung him along for a couple of years just in case ticket sales weren't the best when they first went on sale. As soon as they realised they were selling enough premium tickets, backstage experiences, etc for the tour to be profitable without Ace, they immediately started bagging him again. The couple of years leading up to the tour Paul was always non-committal when asked if Ace would be involved and Gene had Ace very close for a while, with lots of Vault appearances, the Australian tour together, and writing songs together. Ace probably thought he was back and was shattered when they started all the backstabbing again.
@@kBlueberry2024Yeah, right... 3 quotes you should never believe: 1/ A dog owner who says: "My dog won't bite." 2/ A dentist who says: "It won't hurt." 3/ An alcoholic who says: "I'll never drink again"...
Mr. Ace Frehley is a living legend! His original music is terrific 👌. He can even cover the Monkeys 😂 day tripper and he nails Led Zeppelin on the 🎸 guitar.
Mortified. Saw him in Connecticut 7/9. I couldn't believe what I was seeing/hearing. Most terrible show I have ever seen.... with zero expectations!. I just went to show support for what we all grew up on. Ace has to get help, or give it up entirely, and stop listening to the "close" sycophants telling him to keep going. There is something wrong, and sadly its probably back to drink/drugs, and maybe worse...Alzheimer's? I guess if Gene and Paul have given up trying to "intervene", there is no one of sincerity left. Still sick to my stomach three days later.
Sadly, Gene and Paul rolled his pockets, that's why he left the band. And all I see his girlfriend or wife, whatever, doing is taking selfie of the two of them and handing him a half drunken 5th of liquor before he goes on stage. From what I've seen , and it hasn't been much, he is his only support, and at his age and with his issues, that's not right or good.
Love ACE, His 70's Songs were inshredible! BUT, That was over 43 yrs ago... If he's charging for tix he should put out a Show, not a Showin up for the cash...
Yea, not lookkng good for Ace. I have seen him 3 times in the last 3 years and each one has been terribly worse and worse. His band use to be able to save these sets but now that hes back to 2 guitarists instead of 3 it is extremley noticeable. Again, not his band at all, they are pros 100% of the time and their shows with Gene were some of my best kiss related moments i have seen. The problem here is Ace and Ace alone. has been bragging for years in interviews that he dosnt have to practice and then he shows up like this. Each show got shittier live and what i am watching here in even worse. He really needs to retire from shows and continue to release halfway decent albums...
Who cares. He is a human being and he can live how he wants to. Does anyone monitor your life? He is who he is! No one gives a crap if you are sober or not correct@? Yeah he was in a well known band. Doesn't mean he has to follow someone else's rules does it.
Is it just me or the drummer messing things up as well? Its like ace knew what fills Matt Starr did correctly to keep the pace with him. Seems like hes been mostly playing his new music and not practicing his older stuff
Another one? Ace is so sloppy ..comes in late on the vocals..and they are just are..bad. It's sad. There is no way Paul will put Ace in any KISS show at this point. A lot of great memories from the 70s Ace.
@@TheLarryburns84 I liked a few songs off of the first Frehley's comet album...but I think a lot of the excitement was just that he reapeared after 4 years or so ...seeing him on MTV was awesome...cooler than Kiss in '87 ! In my opinion!
Gene worth 400 million, Paul 200 million, Ace 1 million. Doubt he would be worth that if not for KIss bringing him back on a couple of times. You could probably get him to play your backyard party for $100, a case of beer, and a $20 McDonald's gift card. Honestly, Gene's maid probably makes more than Ace in a year.
Its just painful ! A legend destroying his legacy ! His band need to stop taking the money and get some self respect as well. Ripping off people. Cannot even sing his own songs.
Ace should really consider getting in touch with Paul's tape guy.
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Wow, Ace’ vocals are bad at this show. He sounds slow with his voice
😂.....that's fuckin hilarious
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I have loved Ace since 1973….but is anyone surprised he has not evolved or still plays sloppy? He was great from 74 - 78 and since then it’s the same style, same licks and a little degradation each year… he was pretty good in 1996. He is in 70s now, do you expect him to get better? He has never worked at his playing - even so the greatness of what he did between 74 and 78 still holds up. I don’t go see him play, I know what I will get and I am over it…but I still LOVE what he gave us.
Dude is in his 70s bro. He’s still playin on stage. Most people his age that lived as hard as he did are in a home
Concise summation, the collective concurs. Kiss Army, retired.
How his band members can keep a straight face during these performances I'll never know.
That is embarrassingly awful.
@@roccydaleian Ace hitting the sauce!
Thank god he has a band that can carry his lame ass even this far. So terrible.
Because they know and understand Ace was sick. Listen to what Ace said after "Shock Me".
I thought I was the only one not enamored with this. Extremely lethargic playing and singing.
Thanks for the upload.
This is why Paul and Gene didn't want to play with Peter and Ace during the Rock and roll hall of fame.
they dont want to pay them $$$$$$$$, Ace said he would play for the right $$$
This is so sad. I wish Ace would just kick back and retire. This is not how to go out on the great legacy he has built. =/
Good Lord, that was brutal. I am so glad I didn't buy tix for that show. Thanks for posting.
Literally thinking it going to this or a tribute band this weekend... that’s how awful Ace sounds unfortunately
I almost went to this instead of L.AGuns who were in town the same exact night. L.A. Guns owned.
Lucky for me I seen him like 7 or 8 years ago. Good band behind him. The drummer sang half the songs . The bass player a couple and ace jammed. Time to retire
I can see why Paul Stanley said it would be "PISS" if Ace was back. This is brutal
After 15 years of sobriety - Ace has relapsed my friends. Need to wish him the best. Damnt
I saw him about a year ago with Alice Cooper and i was was shocked to see how terrible he sounded , He i sounded drunk especially on NY Groove , I posted it on You Tube you can see what i mean ?? ruclips.net/video/YtiEHND-OKY/видео.html
It could be he's on some kind of medication that makes him even more loopy than normal. It's sad either way. :(
@@runrunrun6777He's drunk.
Nerve meds notice the slow reaction time it’s classic Xanax or Valium behavior
Saw him in 2017 and he was great…and he plays extremely loud!
I thought the ceiling was going to cave in,but it sounded excellent.
Oh man....i had a bootleg VHS recording of a solo show he did in '94 with Richie Scarlett in the band...he was FN awesome ! Nothing like he is here ! I mean the singing especially...
I can't wait until they play our high school gymnasium, even if I have to sneak in beer!!
all he was doing really was throwing picks to the crowd
🤣 it hurts me to say this, but you're absolutely right..
I have tix for the 8/26 show in Nashua, NH and I'm already totally regretting this decision
How long did it take for every audience member to quietly think, “I’ve made a terrible mistake”?
It's a sloppy train wreck, but it's interesting and he still releases new music. It's not the greatest music but it's something!!!
Ace you made me pick up the guitar… Ace, seek help.❤️
There is no help that can fix this . This is age and hard lifestyle over many decades. He has been sober for years but the damage was already . Even after you get sober the damage from drugs and booze will still manifest as you age . Ace is old deaf burned out from his former lifestyle and he does nkg practice enough.
Even the light man says, "f-it", and simply leaves on the overhead, white, house lights.
The special effects of the stage hands walking back and forth on stage really added to the show. 😆 I like Ace, but his strong point was never his singing and it was never more clear than now... If he wants to insist on playing, he should play in settings where he just plays his awesome lead guitar. Otherwise, it looks like he's overstayed his welcome at the party.
He doesn’t even fucking try. He basically recites what he can remember of the lyrics, and allows the cover band to do the rest. Totally embracing. And, people wonder why he’s not hanging around in KISS
He may not be all you want him to be, but KISS fucked him over financially, that's why he not "hanging around".
@@StephanieTanchuk I’ll correct that statement for you. He fucked himself over financially with drinking, drugs, and irresponsibility over the last 50 years. While I agree Gene and Paul are selfish and egotistical, they didn’t bring on any financial troubles for Ace. He did that to himself.
Play at 1.25 speed 🔥
I picked up electric guitar at 14. 1975. I learned Aces 2 or 3 licks. Now its 2023 and theyre still the only ones i know. Same with Ace though.
Out of the original 4 Kiss members Ace was the one known for his musicianship.
@JD-sj1zn , Thanks for your respectful opinion. Usually when someone disagrees with a comment they take a cheap shot . I think Gene and Paul wore me out with their treatment of Ace and Peter. They shamed them publicly. But I'm a fan of what they once were.
I (respectfully) contest that, as a drummer personally. Peter was f'n awesome in the black and silver years, 73 up to about 77... there's been a rumor for YEARS he's the only truly live part of the first Alive. after 78ish I can see why everyone bags on Pete to be fair. hate to say that.. but it's true, look at him on the Dynasty tour for a refresher
Saw him last summer n he was great. Got a little lazy on his guitar solo but vocals were good. Got tickets to see him in the fall. Hope the enthusiasm returns
I have yet to see him play or sing well since, I can't even remember.
At this point, Ace is ready to bring Tommy in to finish the tour!!!
Ace are you ok.
Many people say he’s drinking again ,if he was drunk he would probably be much better than this.
He has no passion or fun playing anymore,he’s only out there to make money to support his lifestyle,because he’s not as wealthy as he wants to be.
Probably blew most of his reunion money.
I love Ace I really do, but this is a little hard to watch.
What pisses me off , is if Gene or Paul knew he relapsed they would celebrate with a big fucking I told you so.
This is perfect example of why KISS should not even entertain him playing out the last few shows with them. I love Ace but this is just shameful. This playing and i don't give a fuck attitude ain't worth 250 bucks. never mind the 250k he is asking. It is a joke
Wow….I saw him in Jamestown, NY a couple months ago. It was great to see him, I love Ace and am a huge KISS fan. I even saw them in Erie, PA on the first Farewell Tour in 2000. This is hard to watch though. I think he’s digressed since I saw him in April. He played in Erie in 2012 which is on YT, and in that he seems 20+ years younger so he has aged substantially just in the past 10 years.
He can still throw the pics out pretty good
Better than his singing
Ace wants $500,000 to do 2 kiss shows in December, he's lost his fucking mind!!
Just the encores.
Bom dia a todos...Ace é uma lenda viva..carregou o Kiss nas costas durante anos. As melhores canções do Kiss ele deu sua alma. Se ele não tá cantando bem e tocando foda-se. O que importa é ver uma lenda viva em atividade. Ele chegou no topo, onde poucos conseguem. Tem um nome muito forte e conhecido no mundo todo.Ele precisa de ajuda e parar com a pior droga que existe, o álcool. Parar não para agradar o público, mas sim pra sua saúde.
Saw him in 2019 and he was really good.
Fucking awful. I would’ve been asking for my money back.
That's a hell of a Marshall stack for a small theater.
Most likely just for show.
He's not even singing his own songs now? Time to retire.
OUCH
A banda de apoio é ótima. Os caras realmente dão o melhor de si e se entregam no palco.
Ace high as a Kite. Love it!
The other guitarist bailed on him?
I hope this ends the "Ace is better than Kiss."
This is absolute garbage.
It's like this power trio brought someone onto the stage who was drunk to the point of passing out. They work around his constant tempo changes. We still love you, Ace.
Maybe the bandmates are making the mistakes. Ace has graduated to Jazz (ask Nigel Tufnel, about it), and the other guys aren't at that level yet.
Prescription needs to be changed.
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO ACE?!?!
Ace you need to reconsider touring bro. No excitement or pep left in your step. Go enjoy a cocktail which it’s clear you are again. Enjoy life but stop with this torture
I really like the drummer in this lineup
This looks like what it must have been like supporting the Buffalo Bill's during their 3 Superbowl visits...
Ok, that’s funny. 😂
This is sad.
Wow! All those people taking videos. I'm so glad that they did or I wouldn't have been able to see this live performance. Hey make sure you you sit down and share your crappy video with your friends. You can all scrunch together on the couch and watch it together. Make sure watch your entire video, you know because you sacrificed watching the concert live because you were videoing.
Terrifying
I concur. Brutal is putting it kindly.
Once again he NEVER fronts up to the mic in time for the lyrics.Sorry..it's just lazy.
Wow,he charges money for this? That was just horrible,the voice and the guitar playing.Feel sorry for the talented guys in his band.
House lights kept on.😆
soooooo slow!!!! ugh like being stuck in mud listening to this
Da tristeza! 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Ace .... this is not up to par mate ...
My guess is that its more severe tinnitus causing his decline than his party past. Maybe a combo of both. All them years of bombs, hi volume, feedback spikes etc.. Tinnitus makes everything sound really chaotic at loud volume and greatly dulls the senses. Props to his band for being good and carrying him thru it.
He was on when he opened for Alice. He should be refunding people now
After "Shock Me", he admitted to the crowd he was not feeling well and trying his best. That's maybe why he played so bad. But he should cut more of his singing and focus on guitar. Like "Speeding Back to My Baby", he would go train-wreck it if he tried to sing it
He's never feeling well. It's either bronchitis or something else. And I don't buy it.
How does this guy “Ace” get a green light to do tours and put out albums?
Is everyone tripping on ace vocals ? Why ? We want to see the solos and kicks on GUITAR anyways
This is embarassing.....so sad to see him in this condition..extreme sloppy playing and no voice...ace was my hero
Is this good for anyone? Maybe I just don't know how to listen to it.
Something is definitely not right with Ace. Maybe missing out on the Kiss tour has broken him and he's relapsed. Gene and Paul (especially Gene) strung him along for a couple of years just in case ticket sales weren't the best when they first went on sale. As soon as they realised they were selling enough premium tickets, backstage experiences, etc for the tour to be profitable without Ace, they immediately started bagging him again. The couple of years leading up to the tour Paul was always non-committal when asked if Ace would be involved and Gene had Ace very close for a while, with lots of Vault appearances, the Australian tour together, and writing songs together. Ace probably thought he was back and was shattered when they started all the backstabbing again.
What would "shock me" is if he played Sober!
He's been sober for years
@@Saiko-Johnny he's just getting old, I love ace but it's time for him to be done. Or at least vocally
@@kBlueberry2024Yeah, right... 3 quotes you should never believe:
1/ A dog owner who says: "My dog won't bite."
2/ A dentist who says: "It won't hurt."
3/ An alcoholic who says: "I'll never drink again"...
@@kBlueberry2024 I wish it was just his age. Been a big fan of him since 1976. Breaks my heart to see him in this condition.
He's wasted
Essa 51 é foda
Mr. Ace Frehley is a living legend! His original music is terrific 👌. He can even cover the Monkeys 😂 day tripper and he nails Led Zeppelin on the 🎸 guitar.
Ace says he's going to make an album better than the 1978 album right OK Ace never going to happen nothing can beat that 1978 album
Mortified. Saw him in Connecticut 7/9. I couldn't believe what I was seeing/hearing. Most terrible show I have ever seen.... with zero expectations!. I just went to show support for what we all grew up on. Ace has to get help, or give it up entirely, and stop listening to the "close" sycophants telling him to keep going. There is something wrong, and sadly its probably back to drink/drugs, and maybe worse...Alzheimer's? I guess if Gene and Paul have given up trying to "intervene", there is no one of sincerity left. Still sick to my stomach three days later.
Sadly, Gene and Paul rolled his pockets, that's why he left the band. And all I see his girlfriend or wife, whatever, doing is taking selfie of the two of them and handing him a half drunken 5th of liquor before he goes on stage.
From what I've seen , and it hasn't been much, he is his only support, and at his age and with his issues, that's not right or good.
Very sad indeed. Do us all a favor and just give it up.
What high school is that? St Charles High School?
Love ACE, His 70's Songs were inshredible! BUT, That was over 43 yrs ago... If he's charging for tix he should put out a Show, not a Showin up for the cash...
Yay another show where people got to watch a corpse try to rock
Nobody moves in the audience.
They are stunned.
@@martywhite2988 you mean stoned
Yea, not lookkng good for Ace. I have seen him 3 times in the last 3 years and each one has been terribly worse and worse. His band use to be able to save these sets but now that hes back to 2 guitarists instead of 3 it is extremley noticeable. Again, not his band at all, they are pros 100% of the time and their shows with Gene were some of my best kiss related moments i have seen. The problem here is Ace and Ace alone. has been bragging for years in interviews that he dosnt have to practice and then he shows up like this. Each show got shittier live and what i am watching here in even worse.
He really needs to retire from shows and continue to release halfway decent albums...
Agreed- I will continue to buy his new albums, but I will never go to see him perform live again. Very sad...
13:19 oh god...
And this hack wants $250K to play a couple songs with KISS
I've seen him play GOOD and seen Him Play bad... BUT AT LEAST ITS LIVE!!! no tapes
Sounds and looks like he's definitely drinking again. I hope not but it's not looking good folks.
Back on the bottle for sure!
@@Brad68303It sounds like he is talking and not singing to me.
Who cares. He is a human being and he can live how he wants to. Does anyone monitor your life? He is who he is! No one gives a crap if you are sober or not correct@? Yeah he was in a well known band. Doesn't mean he has to follow someone else's rules does it.
@@mikeg5872 He’s never been a great vocalist and has always talked singed. Although it has gotten worse.
He doesn’t sing speeding back and he annihilates his guitar solo,what a train wreck.
Ace, what the heck are you doing up there singing???? You can barely still play your instrument..... what happened??????? Why ????
Is it just me or the drummer messing things up as well? Its like ace knew what fills Matt Starr did correctly to keep the pace with him. Seems like hes been mostly playing his new music and not practicing his older stuff
Yes. The drummer is constantly screwing up the tempo.
The drummer doesn’t play the classic parts like Matt does.
Ups . . . Ups . . . and Ups . . .
Another one? Ace is so sloppy ..comes in late on the vocals..and they are just are..bad. It's sad. There is no way Paul will put Ace in any KISS show at this point. A lot of great memories from the 70s Ace.
My God, he should have just stayed on his bar stool...
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Not up to par for sure. Still like to see the Marshall stacks instead of simulator the tickets are low price at least
Sick again and again....😢
I love Ace but this sounds terrible
I see Ace has lost a lot of that weight. Good deal 😎👍
Oh my goodness, he is worse than ever.
Holy geriatrics batman
- First 6 KISS studio albums.
- Alive and Alive II
- 'Ace Frehley' solo
That's all the Ace anyone will ever need.
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a little bit of Trouble Walkin never hurt anyone.. he lost me after that
@@TheLarryburns84 I liked a few songs off of the first Frehley's comet album...but I think a lot of the excitement was just that he reapeared after 4 years or so ...seeing him on MTV was awesome...cooler than Kiss in '87 ! In my opinion!
poor Ace paying for his mistakes
Gene worth 400 million, Paul 200 million, Ace 1 million. Doubt he would be worth that if not for KIss bringing him back on a couple of times. You could probably get him to play your backyard party for $100, a case of beer, and a $20 McDonald's gift card. Honestly, Gene's maid probably makes more than Ace in a year.
No, attendees literally paying for his purposefully awful performance. Practice, man. Jeez.
Its just painful ! A legend destroying his legacy ! His band need to stop taking the money and get some self respect as well. Ripping off people. Cannot even sing his own songs.
This is sad to watch. Cmon Ace! Don't let Gene be right. Get some help man.
The band KIX some serious Ass!!! Is Ace drunk??is Ace and Peter going to be at M.S.G. On 12/1 what a heartbreaker!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
He can't even sing Speeding Back to my Baby???? wtf
Somebody should have played his lead too, holy shit. Absolutely embarrassing.