Hi! To use it in a simulator, you need to enable Bluetooth. Press two buttons - Setup and Bind simultaneously and press a Power button and hold them until it starts slowly flashing.
I'm glad for ready to fly kits, but I personally wish I wouldn't have gotten one. I upgraded both the controller and the goggles pretty quickly. The goggles in a couple on months and the control in four and I only been at this for six months. So I basically payed an extra $140 for the drone.
Yeah but when if you didn't like it and bought the expensive stuff to begin with lol. I did the same thing with the emax easy pilot. It taught me how to fly and was a lot easier to learn to fly my 5 inch freestyle. The good thing about this hobby stuff holds it value and can be resold pretty quick
I started with the Emax Ex Pilot Pro. Now I've added a 5" freestyle, I'm still getting used to how fast it is. I got the tx16 and E300o love them both.
Lol yeah it's a big difference. I built mine for 6s but flew 4s for a little bit to force it to go slower until I got more comfortable. I just got the radio master boxer in elrs it's such a great piece of equipment
Nice package but for the radio. A re-branded Zorro or TX12 instead, and this bundle would be ideal. As is, it's near-ideal, and worth looking into as a starting off point. It's got a lot going for it.
Hi Nick … your flying is always impressive whether your trying or not. I now have an Iflight Alpha A65 and Mobula 6 because of your indoor videos …and batteries are out for delivery as I type this. Keep up the good work Nick 👍🏼
Also … thanks for the review of the Vifly Whoopstor V3… that’s also in the mail as I type. I’ll be using it on the new Tattu 1s batteries that’s on the way. Thanks again Nick.
Sorry I am a bit confused by the GNB27 and A30 compatibility. You are saying that a female GNB27(drone side) will accept a male A30(battery side)? Edit: Wanted to mention that you can use HID passthrough on Betaflight to use the controller on a simulator using the "set usb_hid_cdc" command in CLI.
@@FluffRattl;dr GNBs GNB27 and A30 use completely different pin sizes AND spacing and DO NOT fit together. You are correct. Otherwise… I mostly fly BT2.0 and GNB27 at times, but do also maintain a couple of A30 test platforms (for now). A few notes: Mixing A30 and BT2.0 is not a good thing long term, and will break connectors when connecting BT2.0 batteries to A30 on quad, ask me how I know. This is acceptable only for emergency use!!! Contact area is also worse and you will see worse voltage sag due to the side stress of the locating notch, on quad side A30. A30 perform worse (especially noticeable with good batteries and high KV motors), and break easier! I will not continue using them, and will switch back to BT2.0 exclusively after the next maintenance. I personally do not like BetaFPV all that much but their BT2.0 connector is good 👍🏻 and far superior to the current A30. If GNB change the plastic and brass alloy in the future, this may change… Usability/performance wise the GNB27 also has its place, I enjoy it on ultra light 2S stuff. And yes, they are NOT compatible with A30, I just went and tried again 😜 All the confusion comes from GNBs transition from the GNB27 to, the arbitrarily named, bigger number better, A30 connector and miss translations of marketing materials. B20 would of been logical as it has 2mm spacing and is based on the BT2.0 connector. GNB27 has 2.7mm spacing, as it is logically named. If you do manage to force them together you will get terrible contact area and performance, as they use completely different pin sizes AND spacing.
Dang, wish this was out last year. I started with a Cetus pro kit, it got me going so I’m not complaining. But this would have been much better. ELRS! This is the starter kit the hobby needed. Hope ELRS radios in these kits becomes the norm for new comers. Nice change up filming from the kitchen, also weird seeing you fly so slow in Angle mode. As for goggle updates, maybe better antennas down the road, but they handle your home well considering you buzz your furnace and and all that stuff between the kitchen and basement. Thanks for reviewing this, I know what I’ll recomend for new pilots. This is a good deal, ELRS!. Cheers
Elrs is a much better kit solution than frsky. Not to surprising the in google static wasn’t really as noticeable as the dvr footage. Have never pinpointed why that is
@@NickBurnsFPV For a complete kit like this and analog, I’d say those goggles looked better than the Cetus Pro kits. But those were older ones and no DVR. At least with these you can record and upgrade antennas. Good to know flight view isn’t that bad. Still flyable and it’s less than the BetaFPV, 2S vs 1, but this looks like a better starting point imho.
I have one question I’m a beginner and am thinking about buying this kit but when the screen glitches it that what you see in the headset or is that just the video recording thanks
Commenting a little late, but here to say that the controller is pc/simulator compatible via bluetooth. Hold bind and setup buttons while powering on to enable.
Nick, just a heads up, apparently there is a Bluetooth mode on the radio, if you drop it into that, your laptop will recognize it and you can then if fact use it with a simulator of your choice.
@@NickBurnsFPV hey Nick, i saw it over on Steves (Captain Drone) channel on this vid at the 14:59 mark and its a two button plus switch combo with puts it in that mode: ruclips.net/video/wXM4TC2Bg_Q/видео.html could be helpful...looks like he had to go digging around to figure it out.
My verbalizing might have been confusing. The whoopfly16 I have is gnb27, they may have switched shortly after launch. The batteries it shipped with are also gnb27. Which I suspect they might have swapped after this shipped. I haven’t checked their webpage since recording…hopefully they have accurate specs listed
Hi, awesome presentation! I am about to by the kit, it will be my first one. Quick question, can I by the A30 batteries with more mAh? Will they fit? Thanks and keep up the good work
Thank you. Its very unlikely we can get bigger, more mah, batteries to fit that battery tray. We would likely have to modify or completely cut off the battery tray to get bigger batteries to fit. This isn't absolutely 100%, if we can find batteries that are the same thickness but longer and have a bigger capacity/mah to them. But we have to be careful.
We the fpv community should be pushing kits like this way more than we do. If we want to change the perception of fpv to stave off the Karens in lieu of RID then it starts from the grass-root...kids! Get kids involved early. Make it easier and more affordable for the parents to pick up a 'drone' that is ready to go out of the box so its less of an easy choice between a 'drone' and a games console.
Hey Nick, thanks for the video! I was wondering which you'd recommend between the Sub250 Whoopfly 16 RTF and the Emax Tinyhawk 3 Plus RTF, both analog? I'm a beginner with some sim experience and looking to get into real FPV.
Thanks for the introduction and review - I am a FPV beginner, although have some experience with manually flying small drones (not DJI style). I would like to get into FPV, however I am stuck deciding between this, or the BetaFPV Cetus X. Please can I have your experienced opinion here? Thanks!
I think this kit is the better option. The drone is likely more durable and the radio is better than the cetus kit. Googles are pretty much equal. The next point is price which is one you would need to evaluate.
Hi Nick, Great video and review of the Sub250 RTF FPV kit. I have always liked RTF kits that have a good quad and radio. They normally come with bad googles but these are not bad. I really like that you don't have to learn Betaflight. And everything works. Thanks again for the video and information about this kit.
Hey bro - I cant enter the joystick mode by pressing 2 buttons as per manual. U have any tip please?? Have you used this RC for the computer simulators?
Hi Nick. Thanks again for your informative videos. I just received the iFlight brand of the same box goggles. There is a lot of light leak at the nose cutoff. Do you have any reccs for foam or padded foam mods for the nose cut out? Love your suggestion for focus zoom with magnifying lenses.
Nothing specific other than to find something that you like the feel of. A fabric store might a good place to test out foam and it’s feel/density. They should also have some thin double sided tape to use it with
At the end of the flights after disarm I want to the battery to come back up to 3.5v. If the batteries are kept without charging or flight its best to keep them at 3.85volts
No its doesn't. Traditional FPV drones have no self flight abilities, we need to control all axis all the time. They do have what is called angle mode, which is a mode where the quad is always trying to bring itself back to level, this does not hold height or position in the air. If the calibration isn't spot on to the earth or it has been crashed since last calibration it will drift one way in angle mode.
In quad we generally don't use the trims on our radios. I presume your flying angle mode? If so the AIO needs to be re calibrated. There are stick commands to adjust, but I don't recall them. We can recalibrate via betaflight configuration page and usb plug in. The surface we calibrate on the flatter to the earth the better. I use a roll of tape to feed the usb cable up through and sit on a very flat to the earth table, then click the calibration button in betaflight holding the quad still without touching the table. Our human vibrations can have an impact so I try to breath softly and keep my arms off the table. Not kidding encase that sounds sarcastic.
hey nick - another great video!,,,,unrelated question - but you are my "avantquads guy"...their website has been down for a long time but i noticed a few days ago that it seems to be back up again (there was a BNF that i wanted to get from them)....do you know any current info on avantquads?......keep the great vids coming.....thanks
Is Sub250 related to GEPRC in anyway? This controller, the goggles and the charger are pretty much identical to the GEPRC TinyGo RTF kit. GEPRC even updated the controller to ELRS somewhat recently.
I don’t really know anything with any certainty. I think the goggles were first released under a different brand all together. The radio shell does look just like the tinygo rtf kit radio. But we also know that shape/forms get reused across manufacturers and/or made for several companies. One thing that does make we wonder about the geprc link to sub250, is a package I received from sub250fpv that the external box was a geprc box. But I also have separate contacts for both companies.
@@NickBurnsFPV yeah I have also seen random sub250 products on store websites that show a GEPRC photo or vise versa so there must be some kind of connection whether it is just who produces their products or closer than that.
Hey nick whats up. Do you know if bidirectional Dshot works on this drone. When I activate it in bf4.4 the motors are not arming do you have any idea why or what i do wrong?
I am not certain the installed esc firmware is bidirectional compatible. I would start with investigating the esc firmware, if it has bluejay on it its compatible, if not then its not likely compatible.
Hi Nick. Greetings from Panama. I see you recommend buy some cheap lenses to help focusing when having visión problems... But how you do on this video? You didn't use any lenses. My big concern trying to decide wich fpv buy is the goggles.... Im 56 and uses lenses
@@jaimemunoz1059 No worries. In general most box goggles work for those with normal vision or vision that allows "reading" or a clear up close view. At my age and sight, my glasses are for viewing object further away but to use my cell phone I have to take my glasses off, but then can't clearly see when the cell phone is to close. There are some box goggles that have distance adjustment which makes them more flexible for those of us with less perfect vision. The emax transporter box goggles are a set that come to mind. The much more expensive traditional goggles like the hdzero goggles work for more than box goggles but aren't 100% but do have slot to add "diopters" which are lenses to correct the view. While i can't be certain what goggles with you, neither will you unless you have an opportunity to try them.
Lol hey, already asked like 3 questions but i’ve got another one; what batteries do you recommend for this whoop that i can charge with the little charger from the kit i preety sure theyy are GNB27
yes GNB27. I was looking on the site to see if they updated to A30 which is also made by GNB and some companies have been updating quads from GNB27 to A30.
I presume your flying in angle or horizon mode. Recalibrate the accelerometer via usb connection to a computer and the betaflight configuration application. the drone needs to be flat/level. Level as in to the earth not flat as on a table.
95% of the products on the channel are sent by the manufacturer for review. So I do not buy them. When shopping for quad stuff I buy from mostly, tinywhoop.com webleedfpv.com, racedayquads.com pyrodrone.com and getfpv.com
Getting started we likely need to look mostly at durability. I think the sub250 RTF kit and the emay tinyhawk kits are the most durable and offer the best start.
@NickBurnsFPV Good to see manufacturers taking the advice of reviewers. On that note I've noticed that aside from yourself and infinity loops not many of the other reviewers can fly to save their lives. Bit strange to be offering your opinions on a product you can barely operate let alone get to the edge of its performance limit.
Hi Nick! Really enjoy your videos - BTW. I am new to the hobby and purchased the Sub250 RTF Analog kit and looking for someone to point me in the right direction. Getting lots of interference with the googles indoors. Guessing it is because of my Wi-Fi, and I want to change the channel to Race Channel 8 (think that is best to minimize Wi-Fi issues). I have no idea how to make this update - any help is greatly appreciated!
download/install the betaflight configuration application. Note the drivers on the launch page of the betaflight configuration application may be needed as well. Connect with usb and press connect on the betaflight configuration. Navigate on the left side to vtx tables. There you should see the down arrows to select raceband, and then the other to channel 8. click save.
I’m looking into buying this kit but the site has noreviews and is from the uk, I don’t have anything wrong with the uk but I don’t like that it’s from another country. Has anyone bought from the website and how was the experience? Can I trust it?
What site are you looking at? The company is based in China the sub250.com website might be hosted in or out of China, but shipping from sub250.com will come from China. Where as resellers like pyrodrone.com (linked in the video description) is based in California and ships from California.
@@NickBurnsFPV just ordered the whole bundle from pyrodrone I found the bundle, hope the shippings fast! Thank you for letting me know about pyrodrone!
@@ironoreiron A switch will have to be configured in betaflight modes tab to not be in the angle mode range. Then it would be in air mode. This is from the sub250 rtf product page: "The drone default to the angle mode. You can connect betaflight configurator install more mode". Also in the manual at this link describes it as well. Page 6 section 2. cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0627/5940/3778/files/sub250-Manual.pdf?v=1684201650
@@ironoreironShortent he range of the angle mode. Move the switch so its outside of the yellow bar and it will be in air mode and no longer in angle mode.
To be honest, my only 2 options are the Cetus X, or this drone (sub250). Whichever one has better range and penetration would be ideal for me, aswell as the ability for acro.
Hi! To use it in a simulator, you need to enable Bluetooth. Press two buttons - Setup and Bind simultaneously and press a Power button and hold them until it starts slowly flashing.
I'm glad for ready to fly kits, but I personally wish I wouldn't have gotten one. I upgraded both the controller and the goggles pretty quickly. The goggles in a couple on months and the control in four and I only been at this for six months. So I basically payed an extra $140 for the drone.
Yeah but when if you didn't like it and bought the expensive stuff to begin with lol. I did the same thing with the emax easy pilot. It taught me how to fly and was a lot easier to learn to fly my 5 inch freestyle. The good thing about this hobby stuff holds it value and can be resold pretty quick
I started with the Emax Ex Pilot Pro. Now I've added a 5" freestyle, I'm still getting used to how fast it is. I got the tx16 and E300o love them both.
Lol yeah it's a big difference. I built mine for 6s but flew 4s for a little bit to force it to go slower until I got more comfortable. I just got the radio master boxer in elrs it's such a great piece of equipment
Nice RTF, Nick. Thanks 👍
Nice package but for the radio. A re-branded Zorro or TX12 instead, and this bundle would be ideal. As is, it's near-ideal, and worth looking into as a starting off point. It's got a lot going for it.
Hi Nick … your flying is always impressive whether your trying or not. I now have an Iflight Alpha A65 and Mobula 6 because of your indoor videos …and batteries are out for delivery as I type this. Keep up the good work Nick 👍🏼
Fresh batteries for both, or just getting them in the air?
@@NickBurnsFPV fresh batteries for both. Just adding to my 4 existing batteries
Also … thanks for the review of the Vifly Whoopstor V3… that’s also in the mail as I type. I’ll be using it on the new Tattu 1s batteries that’s on the way. Thanks again Nick.
Lol I was definitely surprised you at the breakfast nook, always good to shake things up from time to time.
The echoey audio isn't great, but it was (i thought) good enough.
@NickBurnsFPV between that and the angry bumble bees (drone) it sounds good to me too.
Sorry I am a bit confused by the GNB27 and A30 compatibility. You are saying that a female GNB27(drone side) will accept a male A30(battery side)?
Edit: Wanted to mention that you can use HID passthrough on Betaflight to use the controller on a simulator using the "set usb_hid_cdc" command in CLI.
Yes. A30 battery will plug into a GNB27 connector quad. The cli command is likely further than a good many buying an RTF would be up for.
@@NickBurnsFPV A30 is cross compatible with BT2.0, not GNB27. I fly a mix of A30/BT2.0 with a BT2.0 connection on the quad.
@@FluffRat A30 batteries can plug into a GNB27 connector.
@@FluffRattl;dr
GNBs GNB27 and A30 use completely different pin sizes AND spacing and DO NOT fit together. You are correct.
Otherwise…
I mostly fly BT2.0 and GNB27 at times, but do also maintain a couple of A30 test platforms (for now).
A few notes:
Mixing A30 and BT2.0 is not a good thing long term, and will break connectors when connecting BT2.0 batteries to A30 on quad, ask me how I know. This is acceptable only for emergency use!!! Contact area is also worse and you will see worse voltage sag due to the side stress of the locating notch, on quad side A30.
A30 perform worse (especially noticeable with good batteries and high KV motors), and break easier! I will not continue using them, and will switch back to BT2.0 exclusively after the next maintenance.
I personally do not like BetaFPV all that much but their BT2.0 connector is good 👍🏻 and far superior to the current A30. If GNB change the plastic and brass alloy in the future, this may change…
Usability/performance wise the GNB27 also has its place, I enjoy it on ultra light 2S stuff. And yes, they are NOT compatible with A30, I just went and tried again 😜
All the confusion comes from GNBs transition from the GNB27 to, the arbitrarily named, bigger number better, A30 connector and miss translations of marketing materials. B20 would of been logical as it has 2mm spacing and is based on the BT2.0 connector. GNB27 has 2.7mm spacing, as it is logically named.
If you do manage to force them together you will get terrible contact area and performance, as they use completely different pin sizes AND spacing.
Dang, wish this was out last year. I started with a Cetus pro kit, it got me going so I’m not complaining. But this would have been much better. ELRS! This is the starter kit the hobby needed. Hope ELRS radios in these kits becomes the norm for new comers. Nice change up filming from the kitchen, also weird seeing you fly so slow in Angle mode. As for goggle updates, maybe better antennas down the road, but they handle your home well considering you buzz your furnace and and all that stuff between the kitchen and basement. Thanks for reviewing this, I know what I’ll recomend for new pilots. This is a good deal, ELRS!. Cheers
Elrs is a much better kit solution than frsky. Not to surprising the in google static wasn’t really as noticeable as the dvr footage. Have never pinpointed why that is
@@NickBurnsFPV For a complete kit like this and analog, I’d say those goggles looked better than the Cetus Pro kits. But those were older ones and no DVR. At least with these you can record and upgrade antennas. Good to know flight view isn’t that bad. Still flyable and it’s less than the BetaFPV, 2S vs 1, but this looks like a better starting point imho.
I have one question I’m a beginner and am thinking about buying this kit but when the screen glitches it that what you see in the headset or is that just the video recording thanks
Commenting a little late, but here to say that the controller is pc/simulator compatible via bluetooth. Hold bind and setup buttons while powering on to enable.
Ah yes that is a function of expresslrs, when I did try it(not on this radio) the control felt laggy and hard to fly for me.
Can you do the review about beta fpv's aquila 16 RTF kit too?
I don't expect I will. When betafpv asked me about reviewing it they had a really short timeline I wasn't comfortable with so I passed on it.
Treadmill split S!!!!!! 😁🤟🏾
Nick, just a heads up, apparently there is a Bluetooth mode on the radio, if you drop it into that, your laptop will recognize it and you can then if fact use it with a simulator of your choice.
That’s great. I wonder how we activate it and how we know we have activated blue tooth. I don’t find any documentation on the sub250 website
@@NickBurnsFPV hey Nick, i saw it over on Steves (Captain Drone) channel on this vid at the 14:59 mark and its a two button plus switch combo with puts it in that mode:
ruclips.net/video/wXM4TC2Bg_Q/видео.html
could be helpful...looks like he had to go digging around to figure it out.
@rickdeckard7549 Great information. I appreciate you pointing me to it. 👍
Hey Nick you have the g&b confused with the BT 2.0 The quad comes with a 30 which is compatible with BT 2.0 It's not g&b
My verbalizing might have been confusing. The whoopfly16 I have is gnb27, they may have switched shortly after launch. The batteries it shipped with are also gnb27. Which I suspect they might have swapped after this shipped. I haven’t checked their webpage since recording…hopefully they have accurate specs listed
Nick, hope all os well with you and your family!
Cheers from Knoxville Tn
Thank you. I hope the same for you, your family and friends
Hi, awesome presentation! I am about to by the kit, it will be my first one. Quick question, can I by the A30 batteries with more mAh? Will they fit? Thanks and keep up the good work
Thank you. Its very unlikely we can get bigger, more mah, batteries to fit that battery tray. We would likely have to modify or completely cut off the battery tray to get bigger batteries to fit. This isn't absolutely 100%, if we can find batteries that are the same thickness but longer and have a bigger capacity/mah to them. But we have to be careful.
We the fpv community should be pushing kits like this way more than we do. If we want to change the perception of fpv to stave off the Karens in lieu of RID then it starts from the grass-root...kids! Get kids involved early. Make it easier and more affordable for the parents to pick up a 'drone' that is ready to go out of the box so its less of an easy choice between a 'drone' and a games console.
I would like to see a good detailed manual as well. But this something this hobby has never had.
Awesome looking kit, Nick! And with ELRS? Even better! 😃
Fantastic flying and review as always!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Hey Nick, thanks for the video! I was wondering which you'd recommend between the Sub250 Whoopfly 16 RTF and the Emax Tinyhawk 3 Plus RTF, both analog? I'm a beginner with some sim experience and looking to get into real FPV.
Probably comes down to if you want to fly inside or not. One is pretty much outside only and the other mostly inside and low wind outside.
@@NickBurnsFPV Got it! Thanks a lot!
Nice drone, are you able to fly it acro out of the box?
flymodes are assigned to a switch. Move the switch out of angle mode and we are in acro/rate mode.
@@NickBurnsFPV I asked because on the website it says that the default mode is set to “angle” and to add more modes it said to go on betaflight
@@davidgarcia5127 yes, I believe its also covered in the manual
Thanks for the introduction and review - I am a FPV beginner, although have some experience with manually flying small drones (not DJI style). I would like to get into FPV, however I am stuck deciding between this, or the BetaFPV Cetus X. Please can I have your experienced opinion here? Thanks!
I think this kit is the better option. The drone is likely more durable and the radio is better than the cetus kit. Googles are pretty much equal. The next point is price which is one you would need to evaluate.
Thanks@@NickBurnsFPV. That is very helpful. The Whoopfly16 bundle is $50 cheaper so I think I might just give it a punt. Thanks
Hi Nick, Great video and review of the Sub250 RTF FPV kit. I have always liked RTF kits that have a good quad and radio. They normally come with bad googles but these are not bad. I really like that you don't have to learn Betaflight. And everything works. Thanks again for the video and information about this kit.
With my bias for whoops this is very very likely the best starter package I have reviewed at the current price points
Hey bro - I cant enter the joystick mode by pressing 2 buttons as per manual. U have any tip please?? Have you used this RC for the computer simulators?
Yes, that is my understanding. It uses bluetooth, on the computer we need to establish the bluetooth connection to the ExpressLRS Joystick
You can use it in the simulation only oder Bluetooth
Hi Nick. Thanks again for your informative videos. I just received the iFlight brand of the same box goggles. There is a lot of light leak at the nose cutoff. Do you have any reccs for foam or padded foam mods for the nose cut out? Love your suggestion for focus zoom with magnifying lenses.
Nothing specific other than to find something that you like the feel of. A fabric store might a good place to test out foam and it’s feel/density. They should also have some thin double sided tape to use it with
What would a good voltage to maintain this be? Would anything below 3.4 be unsafe? What is the top end for voltage?
At the end of the flights after disarm I want to the battery to come back up to 3.5v. If the batteries are kept without charging or flight its best to keep them at 3.85volts
Does this drone stay at a certain height, or are you continuously pushing up and down during the flight ?
No its doesn't. Traditional FPV drones have no self flight abilities, we need to control all axis all the time. They do have what is called angle mode, which is a mode where the quad is always trying to bring itself back to level, this does not hold height or position in the air. If the calibration isn't spot on to the earth or it has been crashed since last calibration it will drift one way in angle mode.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks for the reply, I like your videos.
How do you adjust the trim? Mine pulls hard to the right
In quad we generally don't use the trims on our radios. I presume your flying angle mode? If so the AIO needs to be re calibrated. There are stick commands to adjust, but I don't recall them. We can recalibrate via betaflight configuration page and usb plug in. The surface we calibrate on the flatter to the earth the better. I use a roll of tape to feed the usb cable up through and sit on a very flat to the earth table, then click the calibration button in betaflight holding the quad still without touching the table. Our human vibrations can have an impact so I try to breath softly and keep my arms off the table. Not kidding encase that sounds sarcastic.
hey nick - another great video!,,,,unrelated question - but you are my "avantquads guy"...their website has been down for a long time but i noticed a few days ago that it seems to be back up again (there was a BNF that i wanted to get from them)....do you know any current info on avantquads?......keep the great vids coming.....thanks
Yes, they had an issue with accepting payment. I have been told they are back to fully operational and have sent a new quad for review.
@@NickBurnsFPV Awesome!......thanks for the info....looking forward to the review....
Is Sub250 related to GEPRC in anyway? This controller, the goggles and the charger are pretty much identical to the GEPRC TinyGo RTF kit. GEPRC even updated the controller to ELRS somewhat recently.
The WhoopFly16 also looks like a pusher version of the TinyGo with that canopy.
I don’t really know anything with any certainty. I think the goggles were first released under a different brand all together. The radio shell does look just like the tinygo rtf kit radio. But we also know that shape/forms get reused across manufacturers and/or made for several companies. One thing that does make we wonder about the geprc link to sub250, is a package I received from sub250fpv that the external box was a geprc box. But I also have separate contacts for both companies.
@@NickBurnsFPV yeah I have also seen random sub250 products on store websites that show a GEPRC photo or vise versa so there must be some kind of connection whether it is just who produces their products or closer than that.
Hey nick whats up. Do you know if bidirectional Dshot works on this drone. When I activate it in bf4.4 the motors are not arming do you have any idea why or what i do wrong?
I am not certain the installed esc firmware is bidirectional compatible. I would start with investigating the esc firmware, if it has bluejay on it its compatible, if not then its not likely compatible.
Definingly ripped the inside of the house up!!!!!
a much slower pace than my traditional but its fun to explore in a different way.
Hi Nick. Greetings from Panama. I see you recommend buy some cheap lenses to help focusing when having visión problems... But how you do on this video? You didn't use any lenses. My big concern trying to decide wich fpv buy is the goggles.... Im 56 and uses lenses
Is the question how do we choose the lens to use to correct the view or how do we mount the lens?
@@NickBurnsFPV sorry about my english. The question is how should I do or wich fpv goggles can I use if normally use medicated lenses
@@jaimemunoz1059 No worries. In general most box goggles work for those with normal vision or vision that allows "reading" or a clear up close view. At my age and sight, my glasses are for viewing object further away but to use my cell phone I have to take my glasses off, but then can't clearly see when the cell phone is to close. There are some box goggles that have distance adjustment which makes them more flexible for those of us with less perfect vision. The emax transporter box goggles are a set that come to mind. The much more expensive traditional goggles like the hdzero goggles work for more than box goggles but aren't 100% but do have slot to add "diopters" which are lenses to correct the view. While i can't be certain what goggles with you, neither will you unless you have an opportunity to try them.
@@NickBurnsFPV thank you so much for taking your time for such a good explanation. This helps me a lot!
@@jaimemunoz1059 My pleasure.
that radio I think is a geprc tinyradio rebrand
Agreed I think I even mention that late in the video
@@NickBurnsFPV you probably did I must have missed it. I know wayyyy to much about budget radio’s
Lol hey, already asked like 3 questions but i’ve got another one; what batteries do you recommend for this whoop that i can charge with the little charger from the kit i preety sure theyy are GNB27
Thanks in advanced!
yes GNB27. I was looking on the site to see if they updated to A30 which is also made by GNB and some companies have been updating quads from GNB27 to A30.
This kit seems promising for the price especially if the radio is decent.
It’s a solid/ok radio for starting. Way way better than that white emax radio we used to see
Hello. My sub250 goes right. How I calibrate it.
I presume your flying in angle or horizon mode. Recalibrate the accelerometer via usb connection to a computer and the betaflight configuration application. the drone needs to be flat/level. Level as in to the earth not flat as on a table.
hey nick where do you buy your rtf kits because i am desperate to buy one
95% of the products on the channel are sent by the manufacturer for review. So I do not buy them. When shopping for quad stuff I buy from mostly, tinywhoop.com webleedfpv.com, racedayquads.com pyrodrone.com and getfpv.com
What did you do to the basement Nick 👀😄
Nothing? What do you see?
@NickBurnsFPV Oh, I'm just a concerned citizen 👀😂
Hey nick i really need help getting into fpv whoops. In your opinion what is the best RTF FVP whoop kit all around good and fun!
Getting started we likely need to look mostly at durability. I think the sub250 RTF kit and the emay tinyhawk kits are the most durable and offer the best start.
@@NickBurnsFPVI think im going to get the whoop fly 16 thanks 😊
Hey Nick
Didnt you have a lower third in the review of this quad asking sub250 to make an rtf version?
Now that you say that it does ring a bell. I suspect I may have said that during a flight narration.
@NickBurnsFPV Good to see manufacturers taking the advice of reviewers. On that note I've noticed that aside from yourself and infinity loops not many of the other reviewers can fly to save their lives. Bit strange to be offering your opinions on a product you can barely operate let alone get to the edge of its performance limit.
@johnfig3196 Thank you. I suspect there was a time went that could likely be said about me as well. 😥
BTW I love your videos and they help me a lot. I also fly micros
Thank you.
Hey nick I get a small micro but I dont know wich one to get the darwin fpv tiny ape or the tinyhawk 2 freestyle?
The tiny ape is a better value if your willing to swap out the camera or just buy it with the better camera.
whoopfly 16 or aquila 16?
I can't give an opinion on the aquila 16, I have not flown it.
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Hi Nick!
Really enjoy your videos - BTW. I am new to the hobby and purchased the Sub250 RTF Analog kit and looking for someone to point me in the right direction. Getting lots of interference with the googles indoors. Guessing it is because of my Wi-Fi, and I want to change the channel to Race Channel 8 (think that is best to minimize Wi-Fi issues). I have no idea how to make this update - any help is greatly appreciated!
download/install the betaflight configuration application. Note the drivers on the launch page of the betaflight configuration application may be needed as well. Connect with usb and press connect on the betaflight configuration. Navigate on the left side to vtx tables. There you should see the down arrows to select raceband, and then the other to channel 8. click save.
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks!
Hi do you know that avant-quads have new arrivals. Can you pls review the nexa Evo 2.5 ?
Yes. I do have a new quad from them on the way. i do believe its the evo 2.5
Thank you so much 😍
I’m looking into buying this kit but the site has noreviews and is from the uk, I don’t have anything wrong with the uk but I don’t like that it’s from another country. Has anyone bought from the website and how was the experience? Can I trust it?
What site are you looking at? The company is based in China the sub250.com website might be hosted in or out of China, but shipping from sub250.com will come from China. Where as resellers like pyrodrone.com (linked in the video description) is based in California and ships from California.
@@NickBurnsFPV just ordered the whole bundle from pyrodrone I found the bundle, hope the shippings fast! Thank you for letting me know about pyrodrone!
Those goggles look like same as the tiny go kit from geprc
Yes, we have seen these goggles around for a few years. I don’t recall the original brand they launched under.
Is this better then the kit for the tinyhawk 3 plus hd whoop? Thanks
I do like it more than the tinyhawk 3
Woah woah woah what is this strange recording location???
lol
Please do not hot glue anything to that screen, its not good for it, by the way, how do you switch from angle to air mode?
Not to the screen the housing of the goggles.
@@NickBurnsFPVok but how do you switch from angle to air
@@ironoreiron A switch will have to be configured in betaflight modes tab to not be in the angle mode range. Then it would be in air mode. This is from the sub250 rtf product page: "The drone default to the angle mode. You can connect betaflight configurator install more mode". Also in the manual at this link describes it as well. Page 6 section 2. cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0627/5940/3778/files/sub250-Manual.pdf?v=1684201650
@@NickBurnsFPV so i just go to aux 1 and change it to switch between angle and air?
@@ironoreironShortent he range of the angle mode. Move the switch so its outside of the yellow bar and it will be in air mode and no longer in angle mode.
Ugh, I bought it. My wallet hurts, but I just want one decent RTF kit.
Which style did you get? The HDzero version or analog version?
The analog version.
A lot of commercials lately 🤪
commercials as in ads in the video?
s e c o n d
Thanks. I’m not into that stuff. I just want to fly. In the trash it goes. Horrible experience with this kit
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Did anyone notice the fact that he farted?
"Promo sm" 😎
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Whats the best ready to fly kit on the market right now?
best is really going to depend on budget and what sort of quad you want and if the video system is analog or digital.
To be honest, my only 2 options are the Cetus X, or this drone (sub250). Whichever one has better range and penetration would be ideal for me, aswell as the ability for acro.
@@fourelevenl3855 I would suggest going with this kit between those two.
@@NickBurnsFPV Alrighty.Thank you for the responses!