I'm an older guy and all my sidearms have a manual safety... It's what I grew up with... I feel uncomfortable with pistols without a manual safety... Different generation I guess....
Im a old man also but can still handle a 1911 45acp been carrying one for over 50 years sleep every night with the same one i killed people with in Vietnam. That old 45 has my trust it kills um real good. Too many utube commandoes think they know how shit works.
Great video. I have a friend who is a former SAS soldier. We had this exact discussion recently. His argument in favor of a thumb safety is that if someone is able to get his gun out of his holster or wrestle it off him in all the chaos there is a good chance that they will not turn the safety off and will have a dead trigger. This may only give him 1/2 second before they figure it out but he thinks that would make a big difference. Where a glock for example all they have to do is pull the trigger.
I would NEVER buy a gun WITHOUT an external safety. I agree, the risk is solved with training. If I had a gun without one, I'd still be flipping the side with my thumb because I now do it without thinking. But I insist on one because we have kids around. My wife's friend lost their 3 year old because he got hold of their gun without a safety. They thought the gun was locked in a briefcase but the case wasn't locked. Were they careless and negligent? Yes. But people are human and even the best will make mistakes. If their gun had had a simple thumb safety, their 3 year old would probably still be alive. You buy a gun to address a risk. But by having a gun, you introduce a new risk to your family - negligent discharge, which is probably a lot more likely than you getting attacked. Having a thumb safety is not too big of a price to pay. Just train with it.
A manual safety isnt going to stop stuff like that from happening, that is negligent parenting. If a kid can find his way into his parents room and open up the brief case the gun is in, chances are he would have found out how to disengage the safety as well. My biggest question is why is a 3 year old off on his own getting into stuff around the house? Kids that age can and will get into anything and everything. Never leave a child that young unattended.
Back in the early 1980s I had a commissioned security job that required that I be armed, and I carried a 1911 cocked and locked with the safety on. Thumbing the safety off while bringing the gun into play was second nature to me. When I got back into shooting later in life, I was astonished to see internet experts advising against using a manual safety because the shooter might forget to disengage it.
Unfortunately the difference between what you do and what most people do is practice. I’m a firm believer in manual safeties. However many people are not “proficient” in their firearms and will forget to take the safety off.
Every time the power goes out, I will still hit the light switch when i walk into the bathroom. Then i laugh about it and say "oh yea" . But funny thing is I still hit again when i walk out. That's being proficient .
I agree. I'm 50. I've been around guns since the mid 1980s. I've packed guns with safety designs & non safety/DA only formats. I prefer the "non safety" or DA only models. Ambi or manual safety guns are fine BUT you can have safety levers shift OFF or flick on-off. I do private security 👮🏻♂️ & I have a CCW license. My state does not permit open carry. Pistol safety designs are good for some: home security 🏡, vehicle defense, etc. I like having a simple, safe draw & knowing my pistol won't mess up due to a safety lever. ✅ PS: I dont like grip safety designs either 🤭.
Nothing as nifty as a 1911 or AR15, but I'll always remember the feeling as a kid when my thumb would engage and disengage the weird safety on my Mossberg 835 12g without me consciously deciding to do so. It honestly freaked me out. No one had ever explained this to me. I felt silly flipping it so many times, but my brain would just do it for me as I shouldered and unsholdered the shotgun. Now I'm proud of my kid self.
If people can do it 100years ago why can’t those people who are so called “experts” cant? Lol 1911s are the best and will always have a place in my heart.
Having a kid in your house means having your guns locked in a safe when not under your direct control, or another authorized adult. There is a chance a kid can always disengage the safety, either intentionally or unintentionally. You can’t depend on a safety to prevent child accidents. Responsible gun owners have ways to secure firearms for unauthorized access. That’s the best “safety” there is!
I can drive automatic and stick. I can take apart reassemble and fire a Glock, Beretta 92 FS and 1911s just fine. Safety, safety decocker, decocker, no safety, no problem. I can take apart and reassemble, zero and accurately fire both an AR and an AK. Some people are just one trick donkeys. Don’t be a one trick donkey. Train and train with different platforms. Remember when the zombies come and the only gun laying around is an ambidextrous 1911, you’ll know what to do.
Not only do I own a real gun, but some buddies and I do Mil-sim airsoft yearly for a little bit of fun and movement training. Well our sniper is new to the role, and after his first Mil-sim of not landing a lot of solid hits, he has already decided to drop the role. Not because he doesn't enjoy it or anything, but because he believes that his rifle was impeding his success in hitting targets. Now, I helped him sight that rifle in, and I can tell you that a practiced shooter should have a hard time missing with it unless the conditions are extremely unfavorable (rain, high wind, brush, etc.). The real problem is that he never trains, and when he does, he doesn't use the weight of bb that he's actually going to be fielding. This means he has to retune his rifle every time, and even still, the bbs are going to hop and drift too much for what he's trying to do
@@Full_Otto_Bismarck it is. He's a good guy and all, and I've known him since middle school. But I really hope he decides to practice instead of constantly switching roles
@@baka030hydroid he's a casual. They will never practice enough. There are people out there bragging about only needing 1 box of ammo for their entire deer hunting life. Lots of people take pride in not practicing stuff as if being good enough without practice is something to take pride in.
This video just helped me confirm what I've wanted to do all along and that's to continue to train for proficiency with my thumb safety. In a life and death situation if the only weapon available is a gun with a safety I will not be at a disadvantage because I will automatically dissengage the safety. I will automatically dissengage, safety or not.
Thanks Matt for the great vid. I bought a Sig Sauer 365 XL with no safety because that's what was available at the time. So, I then bought a kit to install the safety and love it. Just need to practice, practice practice. I really can't understand why at most gun shops they encourage new gun owners to buy guns without manual safeties. It makes no sense to have people with little or no experience on how to handle weapons carrying with one in the chamber and no manual safety. Accident waiting to happen in MHO.
I bought a standard P365 before the manual safety version was released. I took a holster draw class and the instructors were adamant about never having a safety on a carry gun. I bought into it and got the P365, it’s an awesome gun. Been carrying for a while without the safety, but I’m considering adding it to my P365 now that it’s available. They way I see it is a negligent discharge is probably more likely with such a light trigger pull than a loss of life due to the safety taking too long to disengage. We all grow, I can understand why someone would want a safety for their daily carry.
@@Supermojoman "Gun shop talking us out of safety …even for 1st time gun owners" Sure! It's not their leg you may accidentally shoot when re-holstering. If someone doesn't want a manual safety on their firearm, that is their choice, but to talk someone out of it is just being an egomaniac
I carry a Gen 3 Glock 17. Excellent gun for duty and concealed carry. The only thing wrong with it is that it doesn't have a 1911 style frame mounted safety. I don't know who started the whole "manual safety bad" thing, and I'm sorry they don't have thumbs, but for the rest of us it's simply not an issue.
But wait, the operators on the internet tell me not only will a safety get you killed, but you can't switch out daily carry guns on a day to day basis. Apparently that will also get you killed. Seems like some of these guys might be a little high strung if that's all it takes to cause a panic failure.
Dude how are you gonna kill 47 zombies with 18+1 of 9mm with the time it takes you to put the safety on. Duh think about it dude. Plus you gotta look cool and telling a girl your gun has a safety does not = cool. Think about it maaan!
"Clicky Thingy"!!! I love it! :D I don't know what it is about a "Manual Safety" that seems to give contemporary "experts" the vapors......! ...but they are fun to listen to, and even more fun to watch! I'll not brag about "proficiency." I will only call myself "competent." The "safeties" aren't even a thought! It just sort of happens! I get an acceptable grip on the gun, the "clicky thingy" goes down, and it's ready to rock, and I'm not a danger to anyone around me (well... nobody that didn't earn it, anyway!).... So, I'll settle for "competent!" ;) As always Matt, great vid. God Bess... Stay well... :)
Great video! You explained it well. If you are proficient, that is what matters. It’s not about the name of the pistol or aesthetics. Proficiency is what you need for EDC when your life depends on it.
The reason that a manual safety should be mandatory is that completely unpredictable sh*t happens. It's not a big deal to train yourself to use a manual safety every time you draw. Manual safety or negligent discharge? Your choice. I'd rather be on the side of caution and not shoot anyone because of my laziness to use a manual safety. Not to mention that if you get into a scuffle and someone gets your gun away from you, there is a good chance that they may not realize that the gun has a safety. In that second for them to realize that the gun has a manual safety and figure out how to turn it off, it gives you back the advantage in the fight.
I had a Kimber 1911 Ultra Carry II Pro back when they were really good. Favorite pistol I ever owned. Yup, don't have it any more. I was proficient with it enough that I regular out shot fullsize pistols in competition. My Church Security Team Leader (retired SWAT) didn't like that I had a manual safety, but because I was so good at it he didn't criticize me. Then I took a concealed pistol class in the winter after moving to Michigan. I found that, with very light gloves, I found that I could not fully engage or disengage the safety 100% of the time. I trained and trained and trained and never could get it 100% with light gloves. So I sold it because no matter how proficient I was, I could not fully guaranty the working of the safety. You said there is "knowledgeable" and there is "proficient." OK....but there is also "knowledgeable and proficient" where you know there is more out there than just what you are proficient at. I also know that drawing from concealment is very different from duty carry. And being an Iraq veteran myself of the Infantry type, I know from experience, that thinking what I did in Iraq makes me proficient in concealed carry at home is both arrogant and ignorant. They are significantly different enough that it requires different equipment, a different draw, different problems, etc. And one of those problems is not always being able to fully get a grip on the gun when drawing under stress. Years of advanced CPL training and competitions show that no one gets a solid grip on the gun 100% of the time. That means grip safeties can fail you. Which makes them a potential hazard at worst and and overly redundant in the safety department at best.
I'm a huge proponent of the ability to train in your own home without sending a round. We all need range time, and we can supplement that with presentation and dry fire drills at home. My USPC 45 with variant 1, requires deactivating the safety on presentation and this can be practiced at home. According to one highly accomplished competitive shooter, accurate shooting comes down to 2 skills, 1) holding the gun tightly and properly, and 2) pulling the trigger without moving your hands. If this is true, both of these can be practiced at home without firing a round.
Sir, I appreciate your video, which I stumbled across. I have carried a 1911 for over 30 years. As a duty pistol as concealed carry and executive protection weapon. I was taught it by my father, a WWII pacific theater Marine and police officer. I’ve never had it fail me. Excellent video
Your point about knowledge vs proficiency is spot on. I can field strip a 1911 and know how to handle one safely, but haven’t carried/shot one since I left Viet Nam in 1966. I do appreciate the 1911 but I’m too lazy to put in the work to become proficient, and that’s dangerous. Before I retired in ‘97 my issued weapon was a Glock and my preferred EDC is the LCP (see lazy above).
Excellent video and spot on! A firearm is like a musical instrument. If you don’t manipulate the keys/ etc… you’ll never play well. A trombone player won’t sound too good on a trumpet if he’s never committed the valves to muscle memory. Thanks for the excellent info- play well, play safe, and play on!
Chances are that those "experts" never used a 1911. Also probably never been in a gunfight. I've seen some actual experts and they are proficient in all types of firearms. Be a student in weapons craft. Internet ninja nonsense needs to stop.
If internet ninja nonsense ever stopped, we'd be deprived of the joy of clowns like YankeeMarshal. Sometimes internet ninja nonsense purveyors are priceless assets in free entertainment.
I'm a striker fired 9 guy, but there are benefits to a 1911. It's got size without being really fat. So it's easier imo to shoot especially when coupled with an often better trigger than I get with my Shield. You choose the benefit that suits you more, there is room for personal preference. I like the draw and shoot aspect, and an overall smaller gun. But that's just me.
Matt, you are spot-on! I hear a lot of folks say the same thing about 1911's way to often! This reminds of the old adage, "Those who can't do teach"! Even today 1911's are still in service by many Spec-Op's folks! The F.B.I. Hostage Rescue Team "H.R.T.", uses them as well. Me I'm going back to carrying my 1911. Okay, heavier, not as many rounds as "Wonder Nines" in the mag, etc. However, for me, I'm am more comfortable and confident with a 1911! Best to ya',,,,!
Well said Walter!!!! I carry both a Kimber Tactical Pro II or a S&W 669. As soon as I put that firearm on, the first thing I have to remember is what firearm I'm carrying and which way the safety has to go to take it off. Practice, Practice, Practice. I personally don't care what anybody carries as long as you are proficient with it. Be safe everyone!!!!
I was fortunate to cut my teeth on the 1911. After three years on the job I was fortunate enough to qualify to carry one on duty. With all the new technology available in firearms, I would still prefer to carry my Les Baer 1911 on duty than any of the polymer wonders that I own; well, maybe I consider carrying the HK U. S. P. Tactical elite in 45 ACP… But other than that 1911 is my go to pistol.
I’m a 5’4” tall man, i carry a gubment sized 1911 concealed and i barely notice it. I just got it recently and i used to carry a taurus g2c and i carried it with the safety on and didn’t ever give it a second thought. I don’t notice the safety on any gun. I just engage it and go. Do as i must.
Something I've noticed is that the people who started with a pistol that did not have a safety are the ones that have a problem with it. Those that started with a pistol with a safety (particularly a 1911 or Hi-Power), don't. They also tend to do what you say (I know I do), and that's sweep their thumb down the side of a pistol that has no safety (like a Glock) as if it does, because it's a part of the practiced draw stroke. It takes no more time in the draw, isn't a problem with a gun with no safety and is required for one that does.
I prefer a safety for any single action only firearm for all the reasons mentioned in your video and below. I recently purchased a Sig 365 with a safety. It's automatic that as I draw the firearm my thumb clicks the safety off and as I re-holster it clicks it on. I agree, it's all about practice. Thanks.
Great video. I love my 1911 also. But for the very reasons that you explain is why I won't carry it for self-defense. I was a police officer for 33 years starting off with a 38 caliber revolver then going to Berettas and Glocks and have always trained on Double Action first shot and then single-action there after, no safety. I can't seem to get myself to be able to remember that darn safety. All those years of training and practice draw and fire no safety, really did produce muscle memory. I really enjoyed shooting my 1911, since retired several times at the range while I was shooting it I failed to disengage the safety, click, no boom. I really felt stupid. But it reminded me that it's not the best weapon for me to carry for self-defense so in closing I'm agreeing with you that muscle memory training and practice is really important.
Go with what you know. If you spent years and years with revolvers, DASA pistols, and Glocks then choose one of those. Nothing wrong with a 1911, but nothing beats years of training with any platform.
Could not agree more. Tons of dry fire changes the game about proficiency. I always do drills with dry fire like twice a week for 30 mins or more. If you don't train, your screwed in the real world.
Thank you for posting. I have fired many guns and rounds over the years, but only purchased my first gun a few weeks ago. The amount of gun shops I went into, who told me after I asked for a gun with a safety that it was not needed was amazing. They made me feel like a asking for something that was alien to the human race. I just feel comfortable with a safety, I don’t know why they couldn’t understand that, in the end I went into Academy talked to guy behind the counter told him what I wanted and purchased a firearm. Is it really this difficult to buy what you want?
If a store doesn't have what I want to buy in stock, his best response to me would be, "I will get one in for you", not "You don't need it!" Never going back to those other stores ever again are you? Didn't think so.
100% on the mark, as usual. Things that are capable of dealing out significant harm (not just firearms) are unforgiving of insufficient training. Additionally, I prefer equipment designs that require some type of manual action prior to initiating a potentially deadly operation. Seems prudent to me, but then again I've seen a lot of preventable death and destruction over the years.
@Chair Force During half a century of carrying semiauto firearms, the only negative life-changing scenarios I have personally witnessed involved pistols with no manual safety, so I'm biased in that regard. And I've carried weapons in extremely hostile environments. As far as news stories go, even with all the other stupid things he did, Plaxico Burress would have had no issue if he'd have had a cocked and locked 1911 in his pants instead of something with the only "safety" located in the trigger. That's my bias. Everyone has different experiences, though, so opinions differ. We have to do what seems best to ourselves. As for me, my hands are so trained to deactivate a manual safety that if one isn't there, I waste precious time figuring out why I can't find it. Muscle memory is real, haha.
I truly believe anyone who talks down about the 1911 as a poor ccw due to the thumb safety loses all credibility when talking about carry. It's not like a button safety on a rifle where you have to go out of your way to disengage, the thumb safety on a 1911 is a natural part of the gun and if you use the gun how it is meant you will never forget it. People can truthfully gripe about other reasons such as how it can be finicky with mags and ammo, but the guns thumb safety will never be a good talking point for why one shouldn't carry it and anyone who thinks that little bit of extra safety holds it back really should be talking because they simply don't know how the gun works. If you're thumb is not using that safety as a thumb rest then you are not holding the gun right. If you hold the gun right that safety will not be engaged. But due to that wonderful safety you don't have people blowing their legs or balls off when they crouch down and have the trigger snag on something like some glocks have done. Not saying the glock is bad, but I wouldn't trust it to be appendix carried. I would trust a 1911 appendix carry though because of the external safeties it has.
I think what bothers me the most, is all these people who think that they're going to get into a 'quick draw' confrontation out on main street, like they saw in old westerns when they were kids, and still believe that they will be like Wyatt Earp, shoot their enemy, and walk off into the sunset with the pretty girl. This nonsense about thinking they're some weird combination of Yosemite Sam, John Wayne, and Jesse James just makes these folks look like children who never grew up into mature adult humans.
Thank you; Just took my class for my LTC and want a firearm with a manual safety (for my first EDC anyways) So many people have almost talked down to me about the gun I want simply due to the fact it has a safety Proficient proves! I feel much better now
The first pistol I trained with was a s&w model 39 (my dads), second was the beretta m9 in the Marines, and then the ria 1911. All had a manual safeties. Before any pistols with internal safeties.
Yeah but...how did you mount an RMR? That's really the bigger problem here. They didn't even have a rail to mount a light! How in the world did you even tactical?!
My EDC is a walther PDP, before that i carried a glock 19, as much as i love my striker fires, and im very proficient with them. I do have a 1911, and it took me a while to get used to the thumb safety. But once i got that muscle memory with that pistol....no problems. And Oorah devil, I was stationed in 29, went from one desert to two other deserts. 😂😂
Loving your 1911 videos. I grew up with a couple of revolvers and sold them in my late 20's because I was broke AF. Haven't owned or shot a gun in over 15 years. My wife and I just went out and purchased Sig Sauer 1911's. I'm stoked to get back shooting.
Lots of "experts" opine against manual safeties. As a SF veteran, my individual weapon systems all had manual safeties, which nerver interfered with my use of these weapons in combat. The most important factor is proper training and proficiency.
Good vid Matt. Let me say this. I'm 71 YO. Before 1984 or so all semi automatic firearms were built with safety switches any body that shot a gun before that knew how to use the safety switch. It was just second nature. Then a man named Glock decided that safety's were useless. The holster became the glock safety and all shooters got stupid after that. So the safety switch is nothing new, I own several S Auto handguns and all have safety switches I would not own one without a safety. Sometimes I want to stick my pistol in the pocket of my pants, or my hoodie or in my jacket pocket. Sometimes I carry my pistol from room to room at home without a holster. So stupid is as stupid does.
I know a couple people that said they can switch the safety on their draw, I have them show me, then I say "cool, now try it with your other hand" then it's not so easy for them. In a fight you might not be using your strong hand.
Flipping the safety happens as I unholster before my hands meet. It doesn’t slow me down at all, and is comforting. Even the most experienced people slip up, or something snags. Only has to happen once.
As someone who shot USPSA and IDPA for years with a 1911, I agree that operating the thumb safety has become practically unconscious and second nature. I have also owned Glocks and other striker fired pistols and have never been able to shoot them as well as the 1911. One often overlooked advantage of a thumb safety is the ability to reduce muzzle flip by riding the safety. 👍😎
I feel you 100% !!! In a perfect world you would draw like that how you explained. I’ve practiced switching the safety as part of the draw when still by the hip. That extra second or so can save your life. As a marine I’m sure you’re prepared dictating the situation. Semper Fi Brother!
You are absolutely right about this. Maybe not the exact same, but a good example is my old BAR. I've been hunting with that rifle for 30 years. I've been up the creek and over the mountain with that thing. When I see a deer, the safety automatically flips off. Like magic. It just happens. This is why I am about to get another 1911. I'm looking at the S&W E series. I will have to train, obviously, because it is not my regular carry gun...What would you recommend for a sub $1k 1911? One more thing, search "Dixie gun and pawn shootout" here in YT. That is my local gun store, and the owner has carried his 1911 for close to 50 years. I would say it worked just fine for him! Thanks Matt
It be interesting to find out how many accidental discharges occur with a manual safety against how many occur with no manual safety. I’d bet with the manual safety there would be a lot fewer accidents.
Just got finished watching another video about how manual safeties are horrible, and all I could think about was the M-16 I trained in in the U.S. Army and thought how if manual safeties were bad you'd stop seeing them in military weapons.
US Army and USMC veteran 1966/1972. Semper Fi TOTALLY AGREE WITH ALL THAT YOU HAVE SAID, HELL YEAHHHHHHH I carry a 1911 Springfield 9mm and love this gun and all my other weapons.
You are totally correct. It is all about training. You pin point the deficiencies and correct them. You train until it is second nature. I wish someone would pound it into these guys heads to train and stop blaming the firearm!
I learned on a 1911 so every weapon i own has a safety. Like you said muscle memory, the safety comes off on the draw stroke. I don't even think about it. When i borrowed my friends Glock and holster to try it i still thumbed off a non existent safety.
Thanks for the good advise, "Being Knowledgable and being professional is different". Thanks to the miracle of internet. Everyone can be knowledgable but that doesn't make a person be experienced or wise.
A lot…. I’ve seen plenty of students jerk the trigger so bad that they miss the target between 3-7 yards. If they don’t know how to carry it effectively or pull it out of the holster without shooting themselves accidentally, then that lack of training could prove to be a fatal mistake, especially if the perp is armed. Oh yeah, if you don’t have basic training in state and federal laws…. Or have anger management issues, then that lack of training, even basics, could also leave to jail time.
Matt Stamp is a very good 1911 teacher! 1911 is my choice (and I have always preferred the safeties .. same for the M1). I also love .357 revolvers, single actiob revolvers, .22w rifles and the M1. Old school? Sure I am old .. .. the 1911 is a timeless design (just like a good bourbon)
There is a resurgence with younger and middle aged first time handgun owners to seek out models with manual safety. There are there for a reason, like a manual seatbelt. Question. What dry fire system do you like to use with your 1911 ?
Yes, a lot of them do, unless you are taking one of their classes. I am sure it is for liability reasons, which I can't blame them after watching so many RUclips videos of people shooting everything but the intending target.
I like safeties. They prevent negligent discharge. Lots of innocent people die or get hurt from negligent discharge every year. It comes down to what you trust more: your own ability to turn the safety off the moment you need it, or your ability to manipulate, carry, and store the firearm at all times. I can train for and control that first one, and those occassions will rarely if ever happen as non military or police. The 2nd one is dependent on things other than me, like who I am around, what I am doing, and my environment which are frequently changing and things that I need to be constantly cognizant of when a gun is present. Watch a gun fail compliation on youtube and see how many times a handgun goes off when if it had a manual safety or 2, it wouldn't have. Sometimes it gets caught in the holster or pocket weirdly, it's in a purse or bag that gets set down a bit too hard, it falls out of a holster or pocket and doesn't discharge when it hits the ground but fires as soon as they scramble to pick it up, etc. Shit happens, and of course those incidents are all the fault of those particular gun owners but up to a point, fault is irrelevant because someone got hurt or killed and pointing fingers won't bring anyone back. I personally want to prevent that from being able to happen, and am willing to put a small step that takes no additional time between readying my gun and firing to make sure it doesn't. That's my rationale for it, but I see the advantages of bypassing manual safety do that you don't mess up in the moment and a shot doesn't go off when you need it to.
Guns are very safe with a loaded chamber, that’s how they’re designed to be carry. If your not comfortable with it then don’t, just be sure you practice nonstop racking after you draw, develop that muscle memory so if you ever have to defend yourself, you won’t pull the trigger, a click with no bang, that is the loudest noise you’ll ever hear when split seconds counts
One scenario to think about, is when you have to pull your pistol out and you only have one hand available, because the other hand is holding off the attacker. That would put you in a situation where it would be difficult to rack or chamber a round.
While most people seem to dislike the grip safety, I think it’s a good idea. If you have a good grip on the gun, it will go BANG when you pull the trigger. If your booger hook or something else gets inside the trigger guard but the grip safety is not pushed in, then no bang. Besides, John Moses Browning originally designed the 1911 with a grip safety but not the thumb safety. That was added based on demands by the cavalry. (Note: the Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless has both safeties and also was designed by Browning, so maybe that negates my argument.)
Sir BLESS YOU CAUSE YOU LOVE TO HELP US I HAVE NOT GOTTEN A 1911 YET HOWEVER I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THEIR HISTORY AND SAFETY YOUR HISTORY AS A MILITARY VETERAN IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO US ALL THANK YOU YOUR SERVICE AS WELL AS YOUR CONTINUED SERVICE GOD BLESS PROSPER YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR SHARING YOUR PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE WITH US ALL RIA 1911 FSHC 10 mm THREADED BARREL ALL THE WAY ALL THE TIME 🧎🏾♂️🙏🏾😇👼🏾✝️🧎🏾♂️
We could argue all day on which to go with and both be right, but I rather have a manual safety and be able to shoot guns without it, than not have the manual safety and fail to shoot my attacker cause I 'forgot' to place it on fire. AR15s have manual safeties as well... I don't forget to place my AR on fire.
You just helped me make my mind about manual safety! I keep hearing how safety is the end of all tacticalness :) But also, and maybe it's my fault but I cringe when I hear someone got their trigger worked down to a hairline and they carry cocked with a round in the chamber and no safety... In some awkward IWB holster with a few layers of clothing that can get in the way... I thought maybe I'd get something without a safety and carry it Condition-3 or maybe get a DA/SA... But the guns I like carrying are striker polymers like the p365, etc... Lucky the p365 can be configured with a manual safety and then I can go get a trigger kit and add 0.1s to my draw but also be rather confident about an AD... Thanks!
I have carried for 40+ years (14yr Military/25 yr State Trooper SWAT). I have at least 500,000 rounds fired. To this day I dry fire almost every day and I have always practiced "Taking the Safety off" even when using Glocks!!
I still am new to 1911s. I got a Tisas SDS Import GI clone mainly because I like the look of it. I mainly intend for it to be a home defense gun, but out on the range, I needed to holster it. Being so used to Glocks, and being a southpaw, I cannot manipulate the non ambidextrous slide safety fast. Nor do I want to mess up the aesthetics of the gun by somehow retrofitting an ambidextrous slide safety. So I just have to keep the safety off, knowing that, like Alec Baldwin just found out, that unless there is something mechanically wrong with the gun, the hammer will not fire until the trigger is pulled.
I think manual safety is fantastic for re-holstering to prevent accidental discharge.
I'm an older guy and all my sidearms have a manual safety... It's what I grew up with... I feel uncomfortable with pistols without a manual safety... Different generation I guess....
Hey Live it have you ever carried a steal 1911 as your EDC? Is the weight any problem?
Im a old man also but can still handle a 1911 45acp been carrying one for over 50 years sleep every night with the same one i killed people with in Vietnam. That old 45 has my trust it kills um real good. Too many utube commandoes think they know how shit works.
For sure sir!
@@glenngonzalez2647 If you eat ten donuts a day, then maybe gun isn't your main weight issue.
@@johnkizziah108 you're 100% correct.
Great video. I have a friend who is a former SAS soldier. We had this exact discussion recently. His argument in favor of a thumb safety is that if someone is able to get his gun out of his holster or wrestle it off him in all the chaos there is a good chance that they will not turn the safety off and will have a dead trigger. This may only give him 1/2 second before they figure it out but he thinks that would make a big difference. Where a glock for example all they have to do is pull the trigger.
Mas Ayoob said this as well.
I would NEVER buy a gun WITHOUT an external safety. I agree, the risk is solved with training. If I had a gun without one, I'd still be flipping the side with my thumb because I now do it without thinking. But I insist on one because we have kids around. My wife's friend lost their 3 year old because he got hold of their gun without a safety. They thought the gun was locked in a briefcase but the case wasn't locked. Were they careless and negligent? Yes. But people are human and even the best will make mistakes. If their gun had had a simple thumb safety, their 3 year old would probably still be alive. You buy a gun to address a risk. But by having a gun, you introduce a new risk to your family - negligent discharge, which is probably a lot more likely than you getting attacked. Having a thumb safety is not too big of a price to pay. Just train with it.
gosh that's a terrible accident. I was sorry to hear about it. Stay safe!
A manual safety isnt going to stop stuff like that from happening, that is negligent parenting. If a kid can find his way into his parents room and open up the brief case the gun is in, chances are he would have found out how to disengage the safety as well. My biggest question is why is a 3 year old off on his own getting into stuff around the house? Kids that age can and will get into anything and everything. Never leave a child that young unattended.
Back in the early 1980s I had a commissioned security job that required that I be armed, and I carried a 1911 cocked and locked with the safety on. Thumbing the safety off while bringing the gun into play was second nature to me. When I got back into shooting later in life, I was astonished to see internet experts advising against using a manual safety because the shooter might forget to disengage it.
Unfortunately the difference between what you do and what most people do is practice.
I’m a firm believer in manual safeties. However many people are not “proficient” in their firearms and will forget to take the safety off.
Disengaging a thumb safety is one motion while unholstering. Plus it forces you to put your thumb in the best position for a two handed shot.
Every time the power goes out, I will still hit the light switch when i walk into the bathroom. Then i laugh about it and say "oh yea" . But funny thing is I still hit again when i walk out. That's being proficient .
great analogy
That's muscle memory you just do it
Well, if you did that in a bunch of rooms and didn't turn them off and the power instantly comes back on house will splode.
Good point
I can wipe my ass in the dark also.
"Don't pick a fight with a man that owns one gun, and knows how to use it" - Clint Smith
Damn, this may be one of the truthful gun related videos I've ever seen on RUclips.
Muscle memory is everything, Amen!
I personally prefer a carry gun with no safeties. But regardless of features, nothing will replace quality training!
I agree. I'm 50. I've been around guns since the mid 1980s. I've packed guns with safety designs & non safety/DA only formats. I prefer the "non safety" or DA only models. Ambi or manual safety guns are fine BUT you can have safety levers shift OFF or flick on-off. I do private security 👮🏻♂️ & I have a CCW license. My state does not permit open carry. Pistol safety designs are good for some: home security 🏡, vehicle defense, etc. I like having a simple, safe draw & knowing my pistol won't mess up due to a safety lever. ✅ PS: I dont like grip safety designs either 🤭.
Nothing as nifty as a 1911 or AR15, but I'll always remember the feeling as a kid when my thumb would engage and disengage the weird safety on my Mossberg 835 12g without me consciously deciding to do so. It honestly freaked me out. No one had ever explained this to me. I felt silly flipping it so many times, but my brain would just do it for me as I shouldered and unsholdered the shotgun. Now I'm proud of my kid self.
Ar 15s have manual safetys. no one says anything about that
That's what I'm thinking right now.
True, but you are not conceal carrying an AR. I'm all for safeties but they are 2 different animals
I seen a guy on Instagram state that if anyone cares for a handgun that has a manual safety, they are both a mall ninja and a fudd. I was like WTF?
Excellent and correct assessment! When I pull my gun, the safety comes off without thinking about it!
If people can do it 100years ago why can’t those people who are so called “experts” cant? Lol 1911s are the best and will always have a place in my heart.
yes. I agree
Yeah. I thinks its a matter of promoting brands!
The best?? 1911s? Lol must be a boomer.
Lol the second you said that's the devil the first thing I thought of was water boy saying "momma says 1911s are the devil" 🤣🤣
Honestly, having a kid in the house, I love the idea of the safety and a firearm you need to practice with.
It is important to have the gun not go off and kill someone when they get Thier hands on the pistol and start pointing and squeezing
Having a kid in your house means having your guns locked in a safe when not under your direct control, or another authorized adult. There is a chance a kid can always disengage the safety, either intentionally or unintentionally.
You can’t depend on a safety to prevent child accidents. Responsible gun owners have ways to secure firearms for unauthorized access. That’s the best “safety” there is!
@@ronm6359 of course, but isn't the point of gun safety to have multiple redundant safety measures in place?
Grass week on the island was just boringly tedious until you deploy then your thankful for the practice
I can drive automatic and stick. I can take apart reassemble and fire a Glock, Beretta 92 FS and 1911s just fine. Safety, safety decocker, decocker, no safety, no problem. I can take apart and reassemble, zero and accurately fire both an AR and an AK. Some people
are just one trick donkeys. Don’t be a one trick donkey. Train and train with different platforms. Remember when the zombies come and the only gun laying around is an ambidextrous 1911, you’ll know what to do.
Hahahah best comment so far I've ever read on this damn manual safety debate anywhere.
9 times out of 10, "my equipment is lacking/obsolete/failing" is just a euphemism for "I don't practice enough".
Yup
Not only do I own a real gun, but some buddies and I do Mil-sim airsoft yearly for a little bit of fun and movement training. Well our sniper is new to the role, and after his first Mil-sim of not landing a lot of solid hits, he has already decided to drop the role. Not because he doesn't enjoy it or anything, but because he believes that his rifle was impeding his success in hitting targets. Now, I helped him sight that rifle in, and I can tell you that a practiced shooter should have a hard time missing with it unless the conditions are extremely unfavorable (rain, high wind, brush, etc.). The real problem is that he never trains, and when he does, he doesn't use the weight of bb that he's actually going to be fielding. This means he has to retune his rifle every time, and even still, the bbs are going to hop and drift too much for what he's trying to do
@@baka030hydroid that sounds aggravating as hell
@@Full_Otto_Bismarck it is. He's a good guy and all, and I've known him since middle school. But I really hope he decides to practice instead of constantly switching roles
@@baka030hydroid he's a casual. They will never practice enough. There are people out there bragging about only needing 1 box of ammo for their entire deer hunting life. Lots of people take pride in not practicing stuff as if being good enough without practice is something to take pride in.
This video just helped me confirm what I've wanted to do all along and that's to continue to train for proficiency with my thumb safety. In a life and death situation if the only weapon available is a gun with a safety I will not be at a disadvantage because I will automatically dissengage the safety. I will automatically dissengage, safety or not.
Sand Fleas, you must be a Parris Island Marine. San Diego myself, Semper Fi brother.
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Thanks Matt for the great vid. I bought a Sig Sauer 365 XL with no safety because that's what was available at the time. So, I then bought a kit to install the safety and love it. Just need to practice, practice practice. I really can't understand why at most gun shops they encourage new gun owners to buy guns without manual safeties. It makes no sense to have people with little or no experience on how to handle weapons carrying with one in the chamber and no manual safety. Accident waiting to happen in MHO.
I bought a standard P365 before the manual safety version was released. I took a holster draw class and the instructors were adamant about never having a safety on a carry gun. I bought into it and got the P365, it’s an awesome gun.
Been carrying for a while without the safety, but I’m considering adding it to my P365 now that it’s available. They way I see it is a negligent discharge is probably more likely with such a light trigger pull than a loss of life due to the safety taking too long to disengage.
We all grow, I can understand why someone would want a safety for their daily carry.
Same here. Gun shop talking us out of safety …even for 1st time gun owners 😮. This video nails it “proficiency”. Now time time for me to get yo work.
@@Supermojoman "Gun shop talking us out of safety …even for 1st time gun owners" Sure! It's not their leg you may accidentally shoot when re-holstering.
If someone doesn't want a manual safety on their firearm, that is their choice, but to talk someone out of it is just being an egomaniac
I carry a Gen 3 Glock 17. Excellent gun for duty and concealed carry. The only thing wrong with it is that it doesn't have a 1911 style frame mounted safety. I don't know who started the whole "manual safety bad" thing, and I'm sorry they don't have thumbs, but for the rest of us it's simply not an issue.
But wait, the operators on the internet tell me not only will a safety get you killed, but you can't switch out daily carry guns on a day to day basis. Apparently that will also get you killed. Seems like some of these guys might be a little high strung if that's all it takes to cause a panic failure.
Dude how are you gonna kill 47 zombies with 18+1 of 9mm with the time it takes you to put the safety on. Duh think about it dude. Plus you gotta look cool and telling a girl your gun has a safety does not = cool. Think about it maaan!
@@ALavaPenguin I can't argue with that.
"Clicky Thingy"!!!
I love it! :D
I don't know what it is about a "Manual Safety" that seems to give contemporary "experts" the vapors......! ...but they are fun to listen to, and even more fun to watch!
I'll not brag about "proficiency." I will only call myself "competent." The "safeties" aren't even a thought! It just sort of happens! I get an acceptable grip on the gun, the "clicky thingy" goes down, and it's ready to rock, and I'm not a danger to anyone around me (well... nobody that didn't earn it, anyway!).... So, I'll settle for "competent!" ;)
As always Matt, great vid. God Bess... Stay well...
:)
the key to proficiency... is repetition.
How do you get to Carnegie Hall?
@@dorian_aguayo Practice?
Great video! You explained it well. If you are proficient, that is what matters. It’s not about the name of the pistol or aesthetics. Proficiency is what you need for EDC when your life depends on it.
The reason that a manual safety should be mandatory is that completely unpredictable sh*t happens. It's not a big deal to train yourself to use a manual safety every time you draw. Manual safety or negligent discharge? Your choice. I'd rather be on the side of caution and not shoot anyone because of my laziness to use a manual safety. Not to mention that if you get into a scuffle and someone gets your gun away from you, there is a good chance that they may not realize that the gun has a safety. In that second for them to realize that the gun has a manual safety and figure out how to turn it off, it gives you back the advantage in the fight.
I had a Kimber 1911 Ultra Carry II Pro back when they were really good. Favorite pistol I ever owned. Yup, don't have it any more.
I was proficient with it enough that I regular out shot fullsize pistols in competition.
My Church Security Team Leader (retired SWAT) didn't like that I had a manual safety, but because I was so good at it he didn't criticize me.
Then I took a concealed pistol class in the winter after moving to Michigan. I found that, with very light gloves, I found that I could not fully engage or disengage the safety 100% of the time. I trained and trained and trained and never could get it 100% with light gloves.
So I sold it because no matter how proficient I was, I could not fully guaranty the working of the safety.
You said there is "knowledgeable" and there is "proficient." OK....but there is also "knowledgeable and proficient" where you know there is more out there than just what you are proficient at.
I also know that drawing from concealment is very different from duty carry. And being an Iraq veteran myself of the Infantry type, I know from experience, that thinking what I did in Iraq makes me proficient in concealed carry at home is both arrogant and ignorant. They are significantly different enough that it requires different equipment, a different draw, different problems, etc. And one of those problems is not always being able to fully get a grip on the gun when drawing under stress. Years of advanced CPL training and competitions show that no one gets a solid grip on the gun 100% of the time. That means grip safeties can fail you. Which makes them a potential hazard at worst and and overly redundant in the safety department at best.
I'm a huge proponent of the ability to train in your own home without sending a round. We all need range time, and we can supplement that with presentation and dry fire drills at home. My USPC 45 with variant 1, requires deactivating the safety on presentation and this can be practiced at home. According to one highly accomplished competitive shooter, accurate shooting comes down to 2 skills, 1) holding the gun tightly and properly, and 2) pulling the trigger without moving your hands. If this is true, both of these can be practiced at home without firing a round.
Sir, I appreciate your video, which I stumbled across. I have carried a 1911 for over 30 years. As a duty pistol as concealed carry and executive protection weapon. I was taught it by my father, a WWII pacific theater Marine and police officer. I’ve never had it fail me. Excellent video
Thank for your service 💝 s
Your point about knowledge vs proficiency is spot on. I can field strip a 1911 and know how to handle one safely, but haven’t carried/shot one since I left Viet Nam in 1966. I do appreciate the 1911 but I’m too lazy to put in the work to become proficient, and that’s dangerous. Before I retired in ‘97 my issued weapon was a Glock and my preferred EDC is the LCP (see lazy above).
Excellent video and spot on! A firearm is like a musical instrument. If you don’t manipulate the keys/ etc… you’ll never play well. A trombone player won’t sound too good on a trumpet if he’s never committed the valves to muscle memory. Thanks for the excellent info- play well, play safe, and play on!
Chances are that those "experts" never used a 1911. Also probably never been in a gunfight. I've seen some actual experts and they are proficient in all types of firearms. Be a student in weapons craft. Internet ninja nonsense needs to stop.
If internet ninja nonsense ever stopped, we'd be deprived of the joy of clowns like YankeeMarshal. Sometimes internet ninja nonsense purveyors are priceless assets in free entertainment.
@@elblancobasura ym is so annoying
I love manual safety! I really don't see a problem! I think it's a must for all firearms. It truly isn't a big deal to have a manual safety.
I've always considered myself a student, because I try to learn something new every day. So that being said, I agree with you 100 percent.
"Being knowledgeable doesn't mean being proficient." Truer words were never said. Other than "Let's go Brandon!"
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I'm a striker fired 9 guy, but there are benefits to a 1911. It's got size without being really fat. So it's easier imo to shoot especially when coupled with an often better trigger than I get with my Shield.
You choose the benefit that suits you more, there is room for personal preference. I like the draw and shoot aspect, and an overall smaller gun. But that's just me.
Matt, you are spot-on! I hear a lot of folks say the same thing about 1911's way to often! This reminds of the old adage, "Those who can't do teach"! Even today 1911's are still in service by many Spec-Op's folks! The F.B.I. Hostage Rescue Team "H.R.T.", uses them as well.
Me I'm going back to carrying my 1911. Okay, heavier, not as many rounds as "Wonder Nines" in the mag, etc. However, for me, I'm am more comfortable and confident with a 1911!
Best to ya',,,,!
Well said Walter!!!! I carry both a Kimber Tactical Pro II or a S&W 669. As soon as I put that firearm on, the first thing I have to remember is what firearm I'm carrying and which way the safety has to go to take it off. Practice, Practice, Practice. I personally don't care what anybody carries as long as you are proficient with it. Be safe everyone!!!!
I was fortunate to cut my teeth on the 1911. After three years on the job I was fortunate enough to qualify to carry one on duty. With all the new technology available in firearms, I would still prefer to carry my Les Baer 1911 on duty than any of the polymer wonders that I own; well, maybe I consider carrying the HK U. S. P. Tactical elite in 45 ACP… But other than that 1911 is my go to pistol.
They also put safties on long guns also.
I’m a 5’4” tall man, i carry a gubment sized 1911 concealed and i barely notice it. I just got it recently and i used to carry a taurus g2c and i carried it with the safety on and didn’t ever give it a second thought. I don’t notice the safety on any gun. I just engage it and go. Do as i must.
Something I've noticed is that the people who started with a pistol that did not have a safety are the ones that have a problem with it. Those that started with a pistol with a safety (particularly a 1911 or Hi-Power), don't. They also tend to do what you say (I know I do), and that's sweep their thumb down the side of a pistol that has no safety (like a Glock) as if it does, because it's a part of the practiced draw stroke. It takes no more time in the draw, isn't a problem with a gun with no safety and is required for one that does.
I prefer a safety for any single action only firearm for all the reasons mentioned in your video and below. I recently purchased a Sig 365 with a safety. It's automatic that as I draw the firearm my thumb clicks the safety off and as I re-holster it clicks it on. I agree, it's all about practice. Thanks.
Great video. I love my 1911 also. But for the very reasons that you explain is why I won't carry it for self-defense. I was a police officer for 33 years starting off with a 38 caliber revolver then going to Berettas and Glocks and have always trained on Double Action first shot and then single-action there after, no safety. I can't seem to get myself to be able to remember that darn safety. All those years of training and practice draw and fire no safety, really did produce muscle memory. I really enjoyed shooting my 1911, since retired several times at the range while I was shooting it I failed to disengage the safety, click, no boom. I really felt stupid. But it reminded me that it's not the best weapon for me to carry for self-defense so in closing I'm agreeing with you that muscle memory training and practice is really important.
Go with what you know. If you spent years and years with revolvers, DASA pistols, and Glocks then choose one of those. Nothing wrong with a 1911, but nothing beats years of training with any platform.
Could not agree more. Tons of dry fire changes the game about proficiency. I always do drills with dry fire like twice a week for 30 mins or more. If you don't train, your screwed in the real world.
Great fucking video Matt. I EDC my Remington Govt. 1911.
"Run it and Gun it"
Thank you for posting. I have fired many guns and rounds over the years, but only purchased my first gun a few weeks ago. The amount of gun shops I went into, who told me after I asked for a gun with a safety that it was not needed was amazing. They made me feel like a asking for something that was alien to the human race. I just feel comfortable with a safety, I don’t know why they couldn’t understand that, in the end I went into Academy talked to guy behind the counter told him what I wanted and purchased a firearm. Is it really this difficult to buy what you want?
They told you the truth its not needed with todays handguns.
@@YellowjacketGTO Or they told him it's not needed because they didn't have one in stock to sell him
If a store doesn't have what I want to buy in stock, his best response to me would be, "I will get one in for you", not "You don't need it!" Never going back to those other stores ever again are you? Didn't think so.
100% on the mark, as usual. Things that are capable of dealing out significant harm (not just firearms) are unforgiving of insufficient training. Additionally, I prefer equipment designs that require some type of manual action prior to initiating a potentially deadly operation. Seems prudent to me, but then again I've seen a lot of preventable death and destruction over the years.
@Chair Force Extra layer of safety is the point.
@Chair Force During half a century of carrying semiauto firearms, the only negative life-changing scenarios I have personally witnessed involved pistols with no manual safety, so I'm biased in that regard. And I've carried weapons in extremely hostile environments. As far as news stories go, even with all the other stupid things he did, Plaxico Burress would have had no issue if he'd have had a cocked and locked 1911 in his pants instead of something with the only "safety" located in the trigger. That's my bias. Everyone has different experiences, though, so opinions differ. We have to do what seems best to ourselves. As for me, my hands are so trained to deactivate a manual safety that if one isn't there, I waste precious time figuring out why I can't find it. Muscle memory is real, haha.
@Chair Force Roger that.
I truly believe anyone who talks down about the 1911 as a poor ccw due to the thumb safety loses all credibility when talking about carry. It's not like a button safety on a rifle where you have to go out of your way to disengage, the thumb safety on a 1911 is a natural part of the gun and if you use the gun how it is meant you will never forget it. People can truthfully gripe about other reasons such as how it can be finicky with mags and ammo, but the guns thumb safety will never be a good talking point for why one shouldn't carry it and anyone who thinks that little bit of extra safety holds it back really should be talking because they simply don't know how the gun works. If you're thumb is not using that safety as a thumb rest then you are not holding the gun right. If you hold the gun right that safety will not be engaged. But due to that wonderful safety you don't have people blowing their legs or balls off when they crouch down and have the trigger snag on something like some glocks have done. Not saying the glock is bad, but I wouldn't trust it to be appendix carried. I would trust a 1911 appendix carry though because of the external safeties it has.
I think what bothers me the most, is all these people who think that they're going to get into a 'quick draw' confrontation out on main street, like they saw in old westerns when they were kids, and still believe that they will be like Wyatt Earp, shoot their enemy, and walk off into the sunset with the pretty girl. This nonsense about thinking they're some weird combination of Yosemite Sam, John Wayne, and Jesse James just makes these folks look like children who never grew up into mature adult humans.
And one of Wyats Saying.... “fast is fine, but accuracy is final. You have to learn how to slow down in a hurry.”
SNAPPING IN!!! I haven't thought about that in years.
Thank you;
Just took my class for my LTC and want a firearm with a manual safety (for my first EDC anyways)
So many people have almost talked down to me about the gun I want simply due to the fact it has a safety
Proficient proves! I feel much better now
You had me at the beginning...I carried the .45 in Vietnam. Love the darn thing. Practice makes perfect.
The first pistol I trained with was a s&w model 39 (my dads), second was the beretta m9 in the Marines, and then the ria 1911. All had a manual safeties. Before any pistols with internal safeties.
Yeah but...how did you mount an RMR? That's really the bigger problem here. They didn't even have a rail to mount a light! How in the world did you even tactical?!
My EDC is a walther PDP, before that i carried a glock 19, as much as i love my striker fires, and im very proficient with them. I do have a 1911, and it took me a while to get used to the thumb safety. But once i got that muscle memory with that pistol....no problems.
And Oorah devil, I was stationed in 29, went from one desert to two other deserts. 😂😂
Matt, great video. It is refreshing to see someone like you talking about guns. Thanks!
I find with a good manual saftey that just getting a good grip on the gun disengages it
Loving your 1911 videos. I grew up with a couple of revolvers and sold them in my late 20's because I was broke AF. Haven't owned or shot a gun in over 15 years. My wife and I just went out and purchased Sig Sauer 1911's. I'm stoked to get back shooting.
Lots of "experts" opine against manual safeties. As a SF veteran, my individual weapon systems all had manual safeties, which nerver interfered with my use of these weapons in combat. The most important factor is proper training and proficiency.
Amen. Carrying one for over 45 years. Cocked and locked, always strong side, always in a speed scabbard, always the same.
Good vid Matt. Let me say this. I'm 71 YO. Before 1984 or so all semi automatic firearms were built with safety switches any body that shot a gun before that knew how to use the safety switch. It was just second nature. Then a man named Glock decided that safety's were useless. The holster became the glock safety and all shooters got stupid after that. So the safety switch is nothing new, I own several S Auto handguns and all have safety switches I would not own one without a safety. Sometimes I want to stick my pistol in the pocket of my pants, or my hoodie or in my jacket pocket. Sometimes I carry my pistol from room to room at home without a holster. So stupid is as stupid does.
The safety is ONLY for the trigger and its NOT a drop safety.
I know a couple people that said they can switch the safety on their draw, I have them show me, then I say "cool, now try it with your other hand" then it's not so easy for them. In a fight you might not be using your strong hand.
Gives credence to the notion that "The BEST gun, is the one that you are most PROFICIENT with."
All the sexual intilectuals that would never carry a gun with a manual safety better hope their gun never fire accidentally like some do.
Flipping the safety happens as I unholster before my hands meet. It doesn’t slow me down at all, and is comforting. Even the most experienced people slip up, or something snags. Only has to happen once.
Thanks for the video.
As someone who shot USPSA and IDPA for years with a 1911, I agree that operating the thumb safety has become practically unconscious and second nature. I have also owned Glocks and other striker fired pistols and have never been able to shoot them as well as the 1911. One often overlooked advantage of a thumb safety is the ability to reduce muzzle flip by riding the safety. 👍😎
I feel you 100% !!! In a perfect world you would draw like that how you explained. I’ve practiced switching the safety as part of the draw when still by the hip. That extra second or so can save your life. As a marine I’m sure you’re prepared dictating the situation. Semper Fi Brother!
You are absolutely right about this. Maybe not the exact same, but a good example is my old BAR. I've been hunting with that rifle for 30 years. I've been up the creek and over the mountain with that thing. When I see a deer, the safety automatically flips off. Like magic. It just happens. This is why I am about to get another 1911. I'm looking at the S&W E series. I will have to train, obviously, because it is not my regular carry gun...What would you recommend for a sub $1k 1911? One more thing, search "Dixie gun and pawn shootout" here in YT. That is my local gun store, and the owner has carried his 1911 for close to 50 years. I would say it worked just fine for him! Thanks Matt
What 45acp bore sight do you use?
It be interesting to find out how many accidental discharges occur with a manual safety against how many occur with no manual safety. I’d bet with the manual safety there would be a lot fewer accidents.
You are confusing “accidental” discharges with negligent discharges.
Just got finished watching another video about how manual safeties are horrible, and all I could think about was the M-16 I trained in in the U.S. Army and thought how if manual safeties were bad you'd stop seeing them in military weapons.
US Army and USMC veteran 1966/1972. Semper Fi TOTALLY AGREE WITH ALL THAT YOU HAVE SAID, HELL YEAHHHHHHH I carry a 1911 Springfield 9mm and love this gun and all my other weapons.
In 1981 I started to shoot IPSIC . The only pistols being used were 1911s!
You are totally correct. It is all about training. You pin point the deficiencies and correct them. You train until it is second nature. I wish someone would pound it into these guys heads to train and stop blaming the firearm!
I learned on a 1911 so every weapon i own has a safety. Like you said muscle memory, the safety comes off on the draw stroke. I don't even think about it. When i borrowed my friends Glock and holster to try it i still thumbed off a non existent safety.
Just wondering what your thoughts are on a modern striker fired gun that has at least 3 automatic safeties built in it.
I love my 1911. My only issue is the beaver tail stabs me in the side. When I carry it, it's usually small of back
Thanks for the good advise,
"Being Knowledgable and being professional is different".
Thanks to the miracle of internet. Everyone can be knowledgable but that doesn't make a person be experienced or wise.
An expert is an unknown drip under pressure.
Ask me how much practice it takes to point a modern striker fired pistol or a revolver at center of mass at 3 yards and pull the trigger...
A lot…. I’ve seen plenty of students jerk the trigger so bad that they miss the target between 3-7 yards.
If they don’t know how to carry it effectively or pull it out of the holster without shooting themselves accidentally, then that lack of training could prove to be a fatal mistake, especially if the perp is armed.
Oh yeah, if you don’t have basic training in state and federal laws…. Or have anger management issues, then that lack of training, even basics, could also leave to jail time.
Matt Stamp is a very good 1911 teacher! 1911 is my choice (and I have always preferred the safeties .. same for the M1). I also love .357 revolvers, single actiob revolvers, .22w rifles and the M1. Old school? Sure I am old .. .. the 1911 is a timeless design (just like a good bourbon)
John Moses Browning is the godfather of the modern firearm. He was a true genius.
Preach bro preach!!!! They all just puppet each other and none of them have any EXPERIENCE
There is a resurgence with younger and middle aged first time handgun owners to seek out models with manual safety. There are there for a reason, like a manual seatbelt. Question. What dry fire system do you like to use with your 1911 ?
My gun range prohibits drawing from the holster.
Yes, a lot of them do, unless you are taking one of their classes. I am sure it is for liability reasons, which I can't blame them after watching so many RUclips videos of people shooting everything but the intending target.
I like safeties. They prevent negligent discharge. Lots of innocent people die or get hurt from negligent discharge every year. It comes down to what you trust more: your own ability to turn the safety off the moment you need it, or your ability to manipulate, carry, and store the firearm at all times. I can train for and control that first one, and those occassions will rarely if ever happen as non military or police. The 2nd one is dependent on things other than me, like who I am around, what I am doing, and my environment which are frequently changing and things that I need to be constantly cognizant of when a gun is present.
Watch a gun fail compliation on youtube and see how many times a handgun goes off when if it had a manual safety or 2, it wouldn't have. Sometimes it gets caught in the holster or pocket weirdly, it's in a purse or bag that gets set down a bit too hard, it falls out of a holster or pocket and doesn't discharge when it hits the ground but fires as soon as they scramble to pick it up, etc. Shit happens, and of course those incidents are all the fault of those particular gun owners but up to a point, fault is irrelevant because someone got hurt or killed and pointing fingers won't bring anyone back. I personally want to prevent that from being able to happen, and am willing to put a small step that takes no additional time between readying my gun and firing to make sure it doesn't. That's my rationale for it, but I see the advantages of bypassing manual safety do that you don't mess up in the moment and a shot doesn't go off when you need it to.
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Well said.
Hey Matt, what do you think about carrying with the chamber empty. How long does it take to Rack it? The safety is off. Thanks again!
Guns are very safe with a loaded chamber, that’s how they’re designed to be carry. If your not comfortable with it then don’t, just be sure you practice nonstop racking after you draw, develop that muscle memory so if you ever have to defend yourself, you won’t pull the trigger, a click with no bang, that is the loudest noise you’ll ever hear when split seconds counts
@@ArmedSteadyFirearmsChannel I agree. Thanks
One scenario to think about, is when you have to pull your pistol out and you only have one hand available, because the other hand is holding off the attacker. That would put you in a situation where it would be difficult to rack or chamber a round.
While most people seem to dislike the grip safety, I think it’s a good idea. If you have a good grip on the gun, it will go BANG when you pull the trigger. If your booger hook or something else gets inside the trigger guard but the grip safety is not pushed in, then no bang. Besides, John Moses Browning originally designed the 1911 with a grip safety but not the thumb safety. That was added based on demands by the cavalry. (Note: the Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless has both safeties and also was designed by Browning, so maybe that negates my argument.)
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We could argue all day on which to go with and both be right, but I rather have a manual safety and be able to shoot guns without it, than not have the manual safety and fail to shoot my attacker cause I 'forgot' to place it on fire. AR15s have manual safeties as well... I don't forget to place my AR on fire.
Damn, I remember grass week and hated dry firing around that painted 55 gal drum! Semper fi!
You just helped me make my mind about manual safety! I keep hearing how safety is the end of all tacticalness :) But also, and maybe it's my fault but I cringe when I hear someone got their trigger worked down to a hairline and they carry cocked with a round in the chamber and no safety... In some awkward IWB holster with a few layers of clothing that can get in the way...
I thought maybe I'd get something without a safety and carry it Condition-3 or maybe get a DA/SA... But the guns I like carrying are striker polymers like the p365, etc... Lucky the p365 can be configured with a manual safety and then I can go get a trigger kit and add 0.1s to my draw but also be rather confident about an AD... Thanks!
I have carried for 40+ years (14yr Military/25 yr State Trooper SWAT). I have at least 500,000 rounds fired. To this day I dry fire almost every day and I have always practiced "Taking the Safety off" even when using Glocks!!
That safety thing they call the DEVIL 👿 will send a BAD GUY TO HELL REALLY FAST. 😂
Here's why 1911s are a poor choice.
Oh hey I was joking.
funny.. understooD!
I still am new to 1911s. I got a Tisas SDS Import GI clone mainly because I like the look of it. I mainly intend for it to be a home defense gun, but out on the range, I needed to holster it. Being so used to Glocks, and being a southpaw, I cannot manipulate the non ambidextrous slide safety fast. Nor do I want to mess up the aesthetics of the gun by somehow retrofitting an ambidextrous slide safety. So I just have to keep the safety off, knowing that, like Alec Baldwin just found out, that unless there is something mechanically wrong with the gun, the hammer will not fire until the trigger is pulled.
Just to point it out, a 1911 has more than one safety....