I own many HK's. The p2000/ 2000sk are my absolute favorite for ccw over any other of their models. There's so many trigger variants offered to get the setup you want. I'll never get rid of mine.
“Has a plastic hammer “ Where ? “It’s not a premium gun “ Hk has the strongest barrels and the longest lasting guide rod system period . I’ve owned all modern designs and no one else is made better and HK has the longest lasting pistol designs as far as parts breakage as well . Literally the dumbest review I’ve ever heard.
I still the think the craftsmanship and quality of this classic is still better than 80% of the guns today. Features are prehistoric but this would be a great gun for shtf.
Besides an optic mount, i really dont know what you are talking about by "premium features". The fit and finish on these guns are still better than most of the modern options and Ive been looking at it because HK is one of the only manufacturers that makes FULLY ambidextrous handguns. I agree the DA trigger is awful, but most of the interest in these is on the LEM.
I wanted to try an H&K hammer/decocker pistol after shooting strikers for years. Picked up a new V-3 H&K P2000 six months ago, knowing it would require some reworking. Added an extended magazine release lever, 11# hammer spring, aftermarket trigger return spring, and to address the lack of effective stippling on the grip, I added Handleitgrip grip tape cut for the P2K - terrific stuff. Picked up a few VP9 17 round mags and added X-Grip spacers. 13+1, or 17+1, still easily concealable, and utterly reliable. Love it.
Dude I ordered my extended mag release switch from HK and It wouldn’t work on the first go, always released the second time I pull it. Luckily I found an easier way to use the factory switch. Just wish I didn’t spend so much on the damn thing
Underrated HK model right there. I’m thinking about getting one to go along with my p30sk. It’s perfectly sized for ccw shorter grip than a full size p30, also it’s still used by US BP if I remember correctly. I’m all about hammer fired guns lately. This thing is so reliable you can take it to hell and back and it will keep going.
I own many pistols and this is by far the best concealed carry option I have. It is the perfect size in my opinion for carry and is extremely ergonomic. This thing shoots like a dream and is very accurate. Fit and finish is better than almost anything out there in its price range today. Stock trigger is not amazing like most hk’s but you can upgrade it for cheap with Hk short reset trigger kit. Carrying it decocked is perfect and I would prefer this to having an external safety. Definitely a very underrated pistol and anyone who has one is sure to agree.
I’ve never shot one. But it is the CCW of a good friend of mine who is a gun collector and he swears by this. It’s the only thing that he will carry. Thank you for the video and good to see you back.
Love my hk p2000 for CCW. I’ve tinkered with it a lot over the years. Hk 45 mag release, vp9/p30 17 rd mag with x grip. Milled slide with a holosun 508t, converted trigger from da/sa to 4.1 LEM with gg short reset. Suppressor height night sights, tlr-7a, slim slide release. Lighter hammer spring. Tack driver and extremely reliable
Thanks for the review 1776. Good looking gun. I’m not sure I agree this gun is outdated. If this gun came with an optic cut I think it would be the ideal carry firearm. I have spent a lot of time with the micro 9s (p365xl, hellcat, etc) and found myself drifting back to larger frame guns as I can conceal them just fine. The P2000 is just a better USP to me. It is just the right size for carry, my LEM version has a great trigger (admittedly I tinkered with it), and of the several HK guns I have the p2000 is the most accurate in my hand. I am not a big HK fan as I was unimpressed with both my P30 and VP9, but I am a P2000 fan. I think it stacks up with the current striker fired staples such as M&P, Glock 19, FN509, etc. Honestly I just wish I could get mine optic cut.
Great guns, I have p2000sk but let my p2000 slip away, I have/carry USP compact 9mm (favorite gun) but need to get my another P2000 with LEM trigger. Crazy how much they sell for these days. Great review! Thanks for the content
The fact that the 2000 is tried and true. It’s track record deletes the fact that it’s not the flavor of the month. I’d take a firearm with a long record of excellence over a new pistol that doesn’t have the time under its belt. Just my opinion 🤷♂️
Not sure why everyone needs all this flashy crap on a pistol... Red dots on pistols is cheating, if you need one in order to shoot a pistol and hit something then you need training on iron sights... The p2000 is ambi, has a pinky ride, looks sexy as hell, can mount a light, decocker, can run after being dipped in mud... What the hell else do you ppl need?? Pretty machining on the slide?
When did the Beretta Storm become a "premium" pistol? And we all know HK makes junk ( obvious sarcasm). Yes I've shot the PX and yes I found nothing of value there. The grip, the ergos or the fact that you can't find a holster just to name a few. And like women, looks do actually matter....the Storm is the girl nobody wants to dance with.
FIRST, you are not picking this pistol up used for 450.00-500.00, and like anything else in the world, you pay more for the name and reputation of a company. Some people would rather drive a Volkswagen OVER a BMW, ALSO EVERY GUN MAKER HAS A LOWER TIER OFFERING AT A AFFORDABLE PRICE SUCH THE P2000. I would rather buy a H&K P2000 OVER A BERSA FOR 200.00 MORE. YOU ARE GIVING YOUR OPINION ONLY, YOUR'E NOT TALKING FOR A BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
Love my p2000 with LEM trigger for concealed carry. I have put 2k rounds through mine and not a single issue yet. I'm seriously considering getting a second one but with a non LEM trigger.
I have had a love/hate with my P2k. It was a V2 LEM. After a couple bad malfunctions and a parts breakage I shelved the gun. Ultimately i decided not to give up so I replaced the broken slide release lever, put in a light TRS, Lazy Wolf Enhanced FPBS, and Lazy Wolf 11lb hammer spring which yielded a very clean and consistent 4lbs 8oz LEM trigger. I don’t think the P2000 is subpar for 2022. It could use a reboot, but it’s still a good pistol. It’s ambi, the v1 is good, capacity is fine, but probably needs to be 15 rounds to make people happy. Put some front serrations on it, RDS cut it, new grip texture and the gun would sell very well. I don’t care what anyone says, there is a response/feeling/rhythm a hammer fired pistol gives a good shooter that a stirker fired gun never will, even an HK LEM with the right springs.
The P2000 is one of the most perfect EDC guns. I don't know how your trigger pressure got to be so insanely heavy but mine was never so heavy. I think the grips are perfect for IWB carry. The front and strap are rough enough to ensure a good grip but the side panels don't eat your torso. I actually use the XL back strap. With it planted in the crease of my thumb, the pad of my trigger finger lands right on my trigger. It is a 40 S&W but is much softer shooting than any other compact 40 I've shot. I had Bill Springfield do some work on the trigger. He reduced the travel of the take-up and reset considerably for a reasonable price. I love my P2000. It is as close to perfect for me as I've found.
…. The LEM trigger, lite LEM to be specific, is the best trigger for an HK pistol.. I have a few HK pistols and all are lite LEM.. this includes the P2000 & the P2000sk.. The are as reliable, rugged, and robust as every HK pistol made.. I really love that factory colored frame!! I wish I could find one, especially with the LEM trigger.. I’d buy it right away lol.. great video and great pistol 👍👍
I carried this gun in in .40 for the USBP. It was a great gun with one, uncommon but terrible flaw: the hammer return spring ocasionally snaps around 5,000 rds for no reason and deadlines the gun immediately.
I noticed the hammer return spring is under the back strap. Would removing the back strap once in a while and clean and lube it help extend the life of this spring?
I had a p30 and couldn't like it. Got this used and it has a better trigger imo. This honestly feels better and i know it shares a lot of internal parts with the P30.
Thanks for the video. I will say that HK does offer the P30 series, which includes some of the ergonomic improvements you mentioned. And while I generally find DA/SA Sigs and Berettas to be better shooters than HKs, I think the merit of an HK goes beyond just the features--you're paying a premium for unquestioned, military-grade durability, reliability and mechanical excellence. Nothing--in my experience--compares to the steel used in an H&K barrel. The finish on the slide is the toughest I've ever seen. They're just... beasts. And I think they're as accurate as anything, but, again... I find a Sig P239 (for instance) to be more shootable than a P2000 or even a P30.
Excellent review - you really hit all the main points. I also don’t like the curved trigger and wish I could put in a flat one. Do you know if you can use a gray guns flat trigger? Overall, it’s a nice gun and I’ll probably never sell it, but definitely I have better carry options.
people buy these for the quality and reliability rather than features. the quality is in the engineering and machining. pay a cheap price and get something cheap and replaceable
My first HK was going to be a USP .45, but the P2000 had just come out, so I got one in .40 and it was awesome. I have owned several over the years as well as all the USP/C’s in 9/40/45/357. I currently own and carry a VP9. I like them all, preferably in light LEM configuration for the hammer guns. P.S. “premium” means nothing to me. If I like a gun, I like it and will try to find the best price for purchase. I think if you want something, regardless of what others deem premium/semi custom, you’re going to pay whatever price you pay for it, because no one is forcing you. So, there’s no need to justify buying or not buying because of whatever an individual’s opinions are. I or anyone else does not need to do so. One can own a basic GLOCK or 1911 for $600ish or go Gucci for $2k-5K+
Keep in mind he called a PX Storm "premium" in this video. I once had an HK P7....I hated it (because of the grip cock) but damn I wish I had it back!!
@@thefrogking481 I think that version is the Langdon carry model which Is $800. so it is the “premium” version of the PX4’s. I had the opportunity to buy a P7M8 but declined for the same reason, regrettably now, was $1200 at the time!!!!
Hk, exceptional hammer fired handguns with mediocre triggers. I love all my hk’s, but it’s not because of their triggers for sure. I’d take my p99 over a p2000 everyday of the week. I remember a few years back I seen p2000’s for $499 brand new at a few gun stores. For that price it’s kind of a no brainer.
And now the p2000 is going for about $100 more than the p30 these days. Seems like they are going the other way now and becoming more desirable. Try a LEM if you haven’t yet, trigger is way nicer at least IMO. On my p30sk the trigger I’d say is about on par with my CZ believe it or not.
It's reason for existing is safe carry. SA only is always a risk, best for military and the well trained. Decockers are great. Thanks for your handling insights and experience. I'm guessing the CZ is a better choice.
I don’t judge HK pistols by their normal triggers (DA/SA), but their LEM triggers. Huge difference, and a big game changer. HK needs to bring that system into the forefront. Truly the greatest innovation to all hammer fired systems in this generation. Buy a LEM conversion kit and send it to your gunsmith to convert it. You won’t be disappointed. LEM FTW.
The SA can’t be 8-9 pounds, it’s more like 5 pounds. I have a p2000 and a p30 and the triggers are very similar. P30 is just a tad bit lighter. I really like the p2000. I was reluctant to buy it because I didn’t like the grip look, but after holding and shooting it I really like it now.
The only thing I really remember about the P2000 is the 'scandal' news story about the frame cracking due to a Border Patrol officer flipping his 4-wheeler over and landing on it. But the last time I was in Laredo, the Border Patrol guys I saw there were still carrying them.
I wouldn't think any polymer gun is gonna survive that type of crash. Someone told me that, but they said they fell on a rock. Left out the 4 wheeler part
.... An FDE colored frame P2k!!!! WHAAT!!! Bruh... Just when I think “I’m Good” as far as my HK pistol collection, you show us this... It doesn’t really ever end, does it.... I have so much money invested into just HK pistols alone, never mind the time spent to find them, I feel like I just got kicked back down the ladder, lol... I just can’t resist the colored frame HK pistols... The HK Bug bit me hard and the infection went systemec almost immediately... I do want to mention that I have taken one of my P2k pistols to Many training classes and have put it through absolute hell, through every type of environment and weather... Many, Many thousands of rounds shot in short time, and I have never had one single issue, stoppage, malfunction or otherwise... It has been 100% reliable... It is a really good feeling Knowing that I can trust my life, and the lives of my loved ones to a piece of equipment that is so reliable.... If I had to navigate through any hostile environment you can bet 100% that I will have an HK with me.... Their pistols are literally bombproof, and the workmanship is second to none... Am I a fanboy?? I am proud to say that I am.. My firsthand experience of deliberately being harsh on a few different examples of their pistols gives me the knowledge and confidence that I need so as to be able to not have to second guess, or question the quality of my weapon or it’s functionality.... All that said, please tell me where you purchased that colored frame P2K, and what other colors do the P2K frames come in... and do they make factory colored slide ones as well, like the HK45/ HK45c.... Any info you can provide will be greatly appreciated 👍
HK seems like a super conservative company. No caving to market trends, or influencers. Then again, why change your product at all if it is just to have more check boxes filled in when comparing something else?
@@1776orbust Or the SFP9 OR. Optics ready, straighter trigger, forward cocking serrations, more ergonomic grip, better trigger pull from the box. Literally everything you criticized them for in their 2001 pistol, they've developed in their newer versions. Kinda like every other major pistol manufacturer in the industry today has.
The 14 pound trigger is what you want. Under duress 14 pounds means almost nothing but enough to think wether what you are about to do will change your life and everyone’s else’s forever.
Unfortunately hk doesn’t modernize their handguns. They don’t do gen(x) or m(x) versions like say Glock or Walther. They will add an optics cut and that’s about it. And they won’t even do that with the hammer fired guns. Not even gonna mention the hk motto here, we all know it.
I definitely don't agree with your assessment of this gun. It is an outstanding gun and an excellent value for the money. I also don't agree that a heavy trigger equals a bad trigger. But thanks for posting.
Man, I've had 2 cortisone shots and Demerol pumped into my wrist this week. Why are you shaking so badly? I'm talking about since this monday. Something is wrong with you. Get it checked out.
I got rid of mine when ditched all my .40 cal firearms. I’d get free ammo so when that finally dried up I already made a switch to 9mm. I’d get another but my biggest gripe with Hk is size/capacity and you tend to get something better for less $$$
idk guns didnt really start changing much and having all these dumb/fad generational changes until around the early 2000's... i think the p2000 series represents possibly the last well thought out and test/perfected series of pistols which took around a decade or two to come up with instead of 1-2 years like the new iphone. except for maybe red dots and some the more recent ultra slim 9mm's, most of the recent "generational improvments" of current ccw's could go right in the trash forward slide serrations? super grippy texture that wears a hole through ur cloths and gets worn down after a couple months of carry? metal sights for clearing malfunctions one handed/wounded? in the last 15-20 years, consumerism and capitalism has gone full room temp iq and begged mfg to market us all these obscure features that are unlikely to ever be needed while giving up important benifits of a decade old, drop safe, reliable hammer fired design. ya it seems like i would really need a short trigger reset for quick accurate follow up shots but... when my expectations come back to reality ide rather have the ability to pull the trigger more than once when i accidentally out of battery safety my gun into a malfunction with my lizzard brain... idk these 20 year old hk's seem like they might still be the best carry pieces on the market for the forseeable future.... and are probably the last example of a design that will not change every other year. espeically in .40.... ive been starting to doubt 9mm expanion in newer, shorter ccw's....
Well it's 2024 and HK still sells the USP and the P2000 if they were not a great gun would you still see hk selling them? Oh and the p2000 and Usp DO NOT HAVE A PLASTIC HAMMER lmao it's coated. If you look at the face of it you can see it's steel. Smh
I've had one for a long time as well as the sk model. It's one of my favorite pistols. I'm in Jersey and their all over the place here at gun shops. You can always do a transfer if your interested. Depending what state your in you'll just have to get standard capacity mags. The one's here are 10 rounders
I EDC one in 40. I love it. It is a pretty soft shooting 40. I just picked up a spare. The grip side panels won't eat your torso. The front and back provide plenty of texture.
@@Lexicologist1971 I totally agree. For some reason there's not much love for p2000 but it's one of my favorite. As well as my uspc 40. We just got ccw here in Jersey with the latest ruling so it's going to be p2000/2000sk in 40 for my edc as well. Stay safe bud
Dude are you serious?! $450-500 is too much for this pistol? Just paying for the HK name and profile? Lmao HK produces much higher quality weapons than you giving credit. Much more than that other gun you’re talking about
Wow. Your analysis is very shallow and uninformed. The P2000 was selected in 2004 by the U.S. government, in the largest contract ever filled for a service pistol in history. A torture test using three MILLION ROUNDS the P2000 passed. DHS/ICE, and the Border patrol started carrying the P2000 in .40 caliber. It was and still is a great service pistol, and is still being sold today by HK. I bought a P2000 v2 LEM in 9mm, brand new, recently, and is as relevant today as it was in 2001, when it was first introduced. Outstanding pistol.
So does that mean it's modern? It wasn't a shallow review it was a question about it's relevancy considering the options of modern pistols. I have 2 lem's and don't have any Long term issues with either. 3 million rounds through 300 pistols is 100000 rounds per pistol a very good return for sure but the video was to discuss it's relevancy. Not at all shallow but a focused question. Dhs and border now issue 19x's so does that automatically mean the glock is the best? Of course not.
@@1776orbust Thanks for sharing. The "latest and greatest" and more "modern" models translate to better or best, is not always true. The P2000 is twenty year tested and true reliable pistol. The government agencies you mentioned transitioned to the Glocks, because they were less expensive and 9mm, not .40 Smith and Wesson, that the P2000s were. Many federal, State and local law are switching to 9mm, for costs. Bullet technology has greatly improved with the 9mm. I will stick with the P2000 9mm LEM.
@LoneStarLawman I agree with that sentiment as a fan of classic Sigs vs the new stuff. Also, I agree with the modern 9mm and cost savings for the government.
Why get a P2000 when you can get a P30, which is basically a hammer-fired VP9? Way better ergonomics. Nicer trigger. Only reason I can think of to get the P2000 is nostalgia or if you’re an HK collector.
I have both of the mentioned guns. I had the p2000 first and my thoughts were the same as yours which is why i picked up the p30… I ended up liking the p2000 better. It is a better size for carry, the grip is better for ME as I really disliked the p30 side panels shifting in my hand, and I also preferred the looks of the p2000 (my copy is a LEM). The only feature I think this gun is lacking is an optic cut, but that is also a frustration for me on the p30.
This is the only HK pistol able to be legally sold in California by the manufacturer. If you want a different HK model, you have to go private party and expect to pay a 2-3x markup.
20Y ears ago you and me were something to look at too. Not a good argument. Also I would rather carry the p2000 over the Beretta px4, look at how ugly and fat the whole gun is, that a terrible looking pistol. Also the Beretta doesn't have the best reputation.
“Has a plastic hammer “ Where ? “It’s not a premium gun “ Hk has the strongest barrels and the longest lasting guide rod system period . I’ve owned all modern designs and no one else is made better and HK has the longest lasting pistol designs as far as parts breakage as well . Literally the dumbest review I’ve ever heard.
The misinformation in this video is a bit shocking. Also in response to the video, people’s hands are different.. I have large sized hands and the P2000 fits perfectly. 20 years later this gun doesn’t give anything up to new models. I didn’t purchase a P2000 as a vanity piece. It is a tool to be used, not a piece of a collection.
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I own many HK's. The p2000/ 2000sk are my absolute favorite for ccw over any other of their models. There's so many trigger variants offered to get the setup you want. I'll never get rid of mine.
It's funny I own 7 sigs but I carry my hkp2000sk faithfully every day
I agree. My p2000sk was the most accurate easy shooting gun I’ve ever owned
love my sk!
“Has a plastic hammer “
Where ?
“It’s not a premium gun “
Hk has the strongest barrels and the longest lasting guide rod system period . I’ve owned all modern designs and no one else is made better and HK has the longest lasting pistol designs as far as parts breakage as well . Literally the dumbest review I’ve ever heard.
I still the think the craftsmanship and quality of this classic is still better than 80% of the guns today. Features are prehistoric but this would be a great gun for shtf.
Besides an optic mount, i really dont know what you are talking about by "premium features". The fit and finish on these guns are still better than most of the modern options and Ive been looking at it because HK is one of the only manufacturers that makes FULLY ambidextrous handguns.
I agree the DA trigger is awful, but most of the interest in these is on the LEM.
I wanted to try an H&K hammer/decocker pistol after shooting strikers for years. Picked up a new V-3 H&K P2000 six months ago, knowing it would require some reworking. Added an extended magazine release lever, 11# hammer spring, aftermarket trigger return spring, and to address the lack of effective stippling on the grip, I added Handleitgrip grip tape cut for the P2K - terrific stuff. Picked up a few VP9 17 round mags and added X-Grip spacers. 13+1, or 17+1, still easily concealable, and utterly reliable. Love it.
Dude I ordered my extended mag release switch from HK and It wouldn’t work on the first go, always released the second time I pull it. Luckily I found an easier way to use the factory switch. Just wish I didn’t spend so much on the damn thing
Underrated HK model right there. I’m thinking about getting one to go along with my p30sk. It’s perfectly sized for ccw shorter grip than a full size p30, also it’s still used by US BP if I remember correctly. I’m all about hammer fired guns lately. This thing is so reliable you can take it to hell and back and it will keep going.
I own many pistols and this is by far the best concealed carry option I have. It is the perfect size in my opinion for carry and is extremely ergonomic. This thing shoots like a dream and is very accurate. Fit and finish is better than almost anything out there in its price range today. Stock trigger is not amazing like most hk’s but you can upgrade it for cheap with Hk short reset trigger kit. Carrying it decocked is perfect and I would prefer this to having an external safety. Definitely a very underrated pistol and anyone who has one is sure to agree.
I’ve never shot one. But it is the CCW of a good friend of mine who is a gun collector and he swears by this. It’s the only thing that he will carry. Thank you for the video and good to see you back.
Love my hk p2000 for CCW. I’ve tinkered with it a lot over the years. Hk 45 mag release, vp9/p30 17 rd mag with x grip. Milled slide with a holosun 508t, converted trigger from da/sa to 4.1 LEM with gg short reset. Suppressor height night sights, tlr-7a, slim slide release. Lighter hammer spring. Tack driver and extremely reliable
Thanks for the review 1776. Good looking gun. I’m not sure I agree this gun is outdated. If this gun came with an optic cut I think it would be the ideal carry firearm. I have spent a lot of time with the micro 9s (p365xl, hellcat, etc) and found myself drifting back to larger frame guns as I can conceal them just fine. The P2000 is just a better USP to me. It is just the right size for carry, my LEM version has a great trigger (admittedly I tinkered with it), and of the several HK guns I have the p2000 is the most accurate in my hand. I am not a big HK fan as I was unimpressed with both my P30 and VP9, but I am a P2000 fan. I think it stacks up with the current striker fired staples such as M&P, Glock 19, FN509, etc. Honestly I just wish I could get mine optic cut.
Thanks for the recent uptick in DA/SA content brother, appreciate you showing them some love.
Still love them
Great guns, I have p2000sk but let my p2000 slip away, I have/carry USP compact 9mm (favorite gun) but need to get my another P2000 with LEM trigger. Crazy how much they sell for these days. Great review! Thanks for the content
Nothing, I repeat, nothing, beats an HK. They need to release their patented micro 9, tho.
I have a P2000 ,and I love it its my favorite.
The fact that the 2000 is tried and true. It’s track record deletes the fact that it’s not the flavor of the month. I’d take a firearm with a long record of excellence over a new pistol that doesn’t have the time under its belt. Just my opinion 🤷♂️
Not sure why everyone needs all this flashy crap on a pistol... Red dots on pistols is cheating, if you need one in order to shoot a pistol and hit something then you need training on iron sights... The p2000 is ambi, has a pinky ride, looks sexy as hell, can mount a light, decocker, can run after being dipped in mud... What the hell else do you ppl need?? Pretty machining on the slide?
By your logic a semi automatic pistol would also be cheating Why not just stick with a single shot musket
@@1776orbust you went a little too far there, pal.
Great timing, I literally just bought one yesterday haha
Just bought one too… sexy looking gun
I decided on it because of a gun store and the owner was such a badass. I fell in love with it
When did the Beretta Storm become a "premium" pistol?
And we all know HK makes junk ( obvious sarcasm).
Yes I've shot the PX and yes I found nothing of value there. The grip, the ergos or the fact that you can't find a holster just to name a few.
And like women, looks do actually matter....the Storm is the girl nobody wants to dance with.
Compact carry has a premium price
Good to see you're back! I still like the P2000 , the baby USP. It has its place even with it's short comings. Nice review! 👍
I really like them. I'd totally carry one.
FIRST, you are not picking this pistol up used for 450.00-500.00, and like anything else in the world, you pay more for the name and reputation of a company. Some people would rather drive a Volkswagen OVER a BMW, ALSO EVERY GUN MAKER HAS A LOWER TIER OFFERING AT A AFFORDABLE PRICE SUCH THE P2000. I would rather buy a H&K P2000 OVER A BERSA FOR 200.00 MORE. YOU ARE GIVING YOUR OPINION ONLY, YOUR'E NOT TALKING FOR A BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
Yes everyone has an opinion and yes you can get it used at that price as I have an lem coming soon for 450
Love my p2000 with LEM trigger for concealed carry. I have put 2k rounds through mine and not a single issue yet. I'm seriously considering getting a second one but with a non LEM trigger.
I have 2 of the DA/SA guns. I'm working at getting them to be twins. I want a replacement for just in case.
I have had a love/hate with my P2k. It was a V2 LEM. After a couple bad malfunctions and a parts breakage I shelved the gun. Ultimately i decided not to give up so I replaced the broken slide release lever, put in a light TRS, Lazy Wolf Enhanced FPBS, and Lazy Wolf 11lb hammer spring which yielded a very clean and consistent 4lbs 8oz LEM trigger. I don’t think the P2000 is subpar for 2022. It could use a reboot, but it’s still a good pistol. It’s ambi, the v1 is good, capacity is fine, but probably needs to be 15 rounds to make people happy. Put some front serrations on it, RDS cut it, new grip texture and the gun would sell very well. I don’t care what anyone says, there is a response/feeling/rhythm a hammer fired pistol gives a good shooter that a stirker fired gun never will, even an HK LEM with the right springs.
The P2000 is a to hell and back reliable gun that has proven itself even more reliable than the benchmark Glock in desert conditions.
The P2000 is one of the most perfect EDC guns. I don't know how your trigger pressure got to be so insanely heavy but mine was never so heavy. I think the grips are perfect for IWB carry. The front and strap are rough enough to ensure a good grip but the side panels don't eat your torso. I actually use the XL back strap. With it planted in the crease of my thumb, the pad of my trigger finger lands right on my trigger. It is a 40 S&W but is much softer shooting than any other compact 40 I've shot. I had Bill Springfield do some work on the trigger. He reduced the travel of the take-up and reset considerably for a reasonable price. I love my P2000. It is as close to perfect for me as I've found.
…. The LEM trigger, lite LEM to be specific, is the best trigger for an HK pistol.. I have a few HK pistols and all are lite LEM.. this includes the P2000 & the P2000sk.. The are as reliable, rugged, and robust as every HK pistol made.. I really love that factory colored frame!! I wish I could find one, especially with the LEM trigger.. I’d buy it right away lol.. great video and great pistol 👍👍
I think you can get a short reset trigger kit too.
I carried this gun in in .40 for the USBP. It was a great gun with one, uncommon but terrible flaw: the hammer return spring ocasionally snaps around 5,000 rds for no reason and deadlines the gun immediately.
Im looking at this gun, what is a hammer return spring? Is it the hammer spring?
I noticed the hammer return spring is under the back strap. Would removing the back strap once in a while and clean and lube it help extend the life of this spring?
2 years later... I'm gonna say, I just got one. The H&K build quality feels great. If it needs any modifications, I will do it myself.
I had a p30 and couldn't like it. Got this used and it has a better trigger imo. This honestly feels better and i know it shares a lot of internal parts with the P30.
Thanks for the video. I will say that HK does offer the P30 series, which includes some of the ergonomic improvements you mentioned. And while I generally find DA/SA Sigs and Berettas to be better shooters than HKs, I think the merit of an HK goes beyond just the features--you're paying a premium for unquestioned, military-grade durability, reliability and mechanical excellence. Nothing--in my experience--compares to the steel used in an H&K barrel. The finish on the slide is the toughest I've ever seen. They're just... beasts. And I think they're as accurate as anything, but, again... I find a Sig P239 (for instance) to be more shootable than a P2000 or even a P30.
Yeah that’s why you’re paying extra for that reliability I totally agree
My P2K saved my life! may be old to you but its a damn good firearm!
Thanks man, wanna buy one. A lot in Cali since its on the roster but not a lot of info out there for it.
Got the P2000SK in 40 cal. With LEM trigger. Probably won’t ever get rid of. Call it my Sherman tank
This handgun is a star in California for left handed shooters.
are you going to get the new Icarus grip module and review it?
USP compact and P2000 are good for me, but not Full USP nor p2000sk. I prefer medium. They are very accurate guns.
In Switzerland a gunshop sell's this HK P2000 for 375 swiss francs brand new. I should buy one i think. Thank you for the review. ☘
That's about 400 American ...that's a deal
Excellent review - you really hit all the main points. I also don’t like the curved trigger and wish I could put in a flat one. Do you know if you can use a gray guns flat trigger? Overall, it’s a nice gun and I’ll probably never sell it, but definitely I have better carry options.
people buy these for the quality and reliability rather than features. the quality is in the engineering and machining. pay a cheap price and get something cheap and replaceable
My first HK was going to be a USP .45, but the P2000 had just come out, so I got one in .40 and it was awesome. I have owned several over the years as well as all the USP/C’s in 9/40/45/357. I currently own and carry a VP9. I like them all, preferably in light LEM configuration for the hammer guns.
P.S. “premium” means nothing to me. If I like a gun, I like it and will try to find the best price for purchase. I think if you want something, regardless of what others deem premium/semi custom, you’re going to pay whatever price you pay for it, because no one is forcing you. So, there’s no need to justify buying or not buying because of whatever an individual’s opinions are. I or anyone else does not need to do so. One can own a basic GLOCK or 1911 for $600ish or go Gucci for $2k-5K+
Keep in mind he called a PX Storm "premium" in this video.
I once had an HK P7....I hated it (because of the grip cock) but damn I wish I had it back!!
@@thefrogking481 I think that version is the Langdon carry model which Is $800. so it is the “premium” version of the PX4’s. I had the opportunity to buy a P7M8 but declined for the same reason, regrettably now, was $1200 at the time!!!!
So what you’re saying is that unlike this the Steyr M9 ha stood the test of time?
What has changed on glock ?
I really want a p2000 and a p30L
Hk, exceptional hammer fired handguns with mediocre triggers. I love all my hk’s, but it’s not because of their triggers for sure. I’d take my p99 over a p2000 everyday of the week. I remember a few years back I seen p2000’s for $499 brand new at a few gun stores. For that price it’s kind of a no brainer.
And now the p2000 is going for about $100 more than the p30 these days. Seems like they are going the other way now and becoming more desirable. Try a LEM if you haven’t yet, trigger is way nicer at least IMO. On my p30sk the trigger I’d say is about on par with my CZ believe it or not.
It's reason for existing is safe carry. SA only is always a risk, best for military and the well trained. Decockers are great. Thanks for your handling insights and experience.
I'm guessing the CZ is a better choice.
I don’t judge HK pistols by their normal triggers (DA/SA), but their LEM triggers. Huge difference, and a big game changer. HK needs to bring that system into the forefront. Truly the greatest innovation to all hammer fired systems in this generation. Buy a LEM conversion kit and send it to your gunsmith to convert it. You won’t be disappointed. LEM FTW.
Evolved into the p30
The SA can’t be 8-9 pounds, it’s more like 5 pounds. I have a p2000 and a p30 and the triggers are very similar. P30 is just a tad bit lighter. I really like the p2000. I was reluctant to buy it because I didn’t like the grip look, but after holding and shooting it I really like it now.
Ya and the da isn’t 14 lbs
@@peterpiper3790 nope, not a chance
The only thing I really remember about the P2000 is the 'scandal' news story about the frame cracking due to a Border Patrol officer flipping his 4-wheeler over and landing on it. But the last time I was in Laredo, the Border Patrol guys I saw there were still carrying them.
I wouldn't think any polymer gun is gonna survive that type of crash. Someone told me that, but they said they fell on a rock. Left out the 4 wheeler part
.... An FDE colored frame P2k!!!! WHAAT!!! Bruh... Just when I think “I’m Good” as far as my HK pistol collection, you show us this... It doesn’t really ever end, does it.... I have so much money invested into just HK pistols alone, never mind the time spent to find them, I feel like I just got kicked back down the ladder, lol... I just can’t resist the colored frame HK pistols... The HK Bug bit me hard and the infection went systemec almost immediately... I do want to mention that I have taken one of my P2k pistols to Many training classes and have put it through absolute hell, through every type of environment and weather... Many, Many thousands of rounds shot in short time, and I have never had one single issue, stoppage, malfunction or otherwise... It has been 100% reliable... It is a really good feeling Knowing that I can trust my life, and the lives of my loved ones to a piece of equipment that is so reliable.... If I had to navigate through any hostile environment you can bet 100% that I will have an HK with me.... Their pistols are literally bombproof, and the workmanship is second to none... Am I a fanboy?? I am proud to say that I am.. My firsthand experience of deliberately being harsh on a few different examples of their pistols gives me the knowledge and confidence that I need so as to be able to not have to second guess, or question the quality of my weapon or it’s functionality.... All that said, please tell me where you purchased that colored frame P2K, and what other colors do the P2K frames come in... and do they make factory colored slide ones as well, like the HK45/ HK45c.... Any info you can provide will be greatly appreciated 👍
Gbroker. Fde is all I've seen
P30 series for me.
HK seems like a super conservative company. No caving to market trends, or influencers. Then again, why change your product at all if it is just to have more check boxes filled in when comparing something else?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but HK has given their newer firearms a facelift, correct?
Such as? Vp9? Long slide, optic ready?
@@1776orbust Or the SFP9 OR. Optics ready, straighter trigger, forward cocking serrations, more ergonomic grip, better trigger pull from the box. Literally everything you criticized them for in their 2001 pistol, they've developed in their newer versions. Kinda like every other major pistol manufacturer in the industry today has.
Sfp is not imported in the US
Got rid of a P30, also with a too-heavy trigger, in order to get the P2000 in .40.
Lol. I'm looking at maybe buying an mr920...thought this hk would be another option. Question answered in first 60 seconds! 🤣
Have you thought about adding the Grayguns short reset system? What weight hammer spring and trigger return spring did you go with?
11lb and light trs
[Angry early 2000s video game noises]
I bought one cause it was the cheapest HK in the shop. I was sick of Glocks cause they were Boring. I just wanted to say, " I got an HK". 👍
The 14 pound trigger is what you want. Under duress 14 pounds means almost nothing but enough to think wether what you are about to do will change your life and everyone’s else’s forever.
Unfortunately hk doesn’t modernize their handguns. They don’t do gen(x) or m(x) versions like say Glock or Walther. They will add an optics cut and that’s about it. And they won’t even do that with the hammer fired guns. Not even gonna mention the hk motto here, we all know it.
I definitely don't agree with your assessment of this gun. It is an outstanding gun and an excellent value for the money. I also don't agree that a heavy trigger equals a bad trigger. But thanks for posting.
It's cool to disagree
@@1776orbust Yes it is!
Change the firing pin block spring.
Did it
Man, I've had 2 cortisone shots and Demerol pumped into my wrist this week. Why are you shaking so badly? I'm talking about since this monday. Something is wrong with you. Get it checked out.
It’s the starting gun in Counter Strike. I’d still like to have an HK45. But the price has tripled on them in the last 4 years.
Tripled? They were 1000 bucks a few years ago and now Bass Pro has them for 750.
Good luck finding one for 400 rotfl. They trade new closer to 800, used 500 to 600.
I got rid of mine when ditched all my .40 cal firearms. I’d get free ammo so when that finally dried up I already made a switch to 9mm. I’d get another but my biggest gripe with Hk is size/capacity and you tend to get something better for less $$$
Lem is v seven. Checked out there.
You should have considering it's not an HK 45 v7 light lem👍🏽
Are you intentionally ignoring P30 as the newest addition to the USP/P2000 lineage 😂
Great one but the Storm is about as ugly as a Hipoint so im out on that one ,but the 2000 is pretty nice.
I'm going out on a limb, everything was better 2 decades ago.
I agree
Premium striker fire😂
Did I say striker ? If so oops
I know one great reason you’d buy a 20 year old p2000: you live in Commiefornia like me 😭
idk guns didnt really start changing much and having all these dumb/fad generational changes until around the early 2000's... i think the p2000 series represents possibly the last well thought out and test/perfected series of pistols which took around a decade or two to come up with instead of 1-2 years like the new iphone. except for maybe red dots and some the more recent ultra slim 9mm's, most of the recent "generational improvments" of current ccw's could go right in the trash
forward slide serrations? super grippy texture that wears a hole through ur cloths and gets worn down after a couple months of carry? metal sights for clearing malfunctions one handed/wounded? in the last 15-20 years, consumerism and capitalism has gone full room temp iq and begged mfg to market us all these obscure features that are unlikely to ever be needed while giving up important benifits of a decade old, drop safe, reliable hammer fired design. ya it seems like i would really need a short trigger reset for quick accurate follow up shots but... when my expectations come back to reality ide rather have the ability to pull the trigger more than once when i accidentally out of battery safety my gun into a malfunction with my lizzard brain...
idk these 20 year old hk's seem like they might still be the best carry pieces on the market for the forseeable future.... and are probably the last example of a design that will not change every other year. espeically in .40.... ive been starting to doubt 9mm expanion in newer, shorter ccw's....
Did I hear you say plastic hammer ?
Everyone has an opinion
Well it's 2024 and HK still sells the USP and the P2000 if they were not a great gun would you still see hk selling them? Oh and the p2000 and Usp DO NOT HAVE A PLASTIC HAMMER lmao it's coated. If you look at the face of it you can see it's steel. Smh
😥😥 boo hoo
Nothing about a glock is phenomenal 🤷🏻♂️
Ive been looking for a p2000 for a while now, preferably in 40
I've had one for a long time as well as the sk model. It's one of my favorite pistols. I'm in Jersey and their all over the place here at gun shops. You can always do a transfer if your interested. Depending what state your in you'll just have to get standard capacity mags. The one's here are 10 rounders
I EDC one in 40. I love it. It is a pretty soft shooting 40. I just picked up a spare. The grip side panels won't eat your torso. The front and back provide plenty of texture.
@@Lexicologist1971 I totally agree. For some reason there's not much love for p2000 but it's one of my favorite. As well as my uspc 40. We just got ccw here in Jersey with the latest ruling so it's going to be p2000/2000sk in 40 for my edc as well. Stay safe bud
Dude are you serious?! $450-500 is too much for this pistol? Just paying for the HK name and profile? Lmao HK produces much higher quality weapons than you giving credit. Much more than that other gun you’re talking about
I have a vp9, a p30 v1 and a p30sk v1 so I'm aware how good hk is butt the p2000 might be outdated, so does that justify a lower price?
Wow. Your analysis is very shallow and uninformed. The P2000 was selected in 2004 by the U.S. government, in the largest contract ever filled for a service pistol in history. A torture test using three MILLION ROUNDS the P2000 passed. DHS/ICE, and the Border patrol started carrying the P2000 in .40 caliber. It was and still is a great service pistol, and is still being sold today by HK. I bought a P2000 v2 LEM in 9mm, brand new, recently, and is as relevant today as it was in 2001, when it was first introduced. Outstanding pistol.
So does that mean it's modern? It wasn't a shallow review it was a question about it's relevancy considering the options of modern pistols. I have 2 lem's and don't have any Long term issues with either. 3 million rounds through 300 pistols is 100000 rounds per pistol a very good return for sure but the video was to discuss it's relevancy. Not at all shallow but a focused question. Dhs and border now issue 19x's so does that automatically mean the glock is the best? Of course not.
@@1776orbust Thanks for sharing. The "latest and greatest" and more "modern" models translate to better or best, is not always true. The P2000 is twenty year tested and true reliable pistol. The government agencies you mentioned transitioned to the Glocks, because they were less expensive and 9mm, not .40 Smith and Wesson, that the P2000s were. Many federal, State and local law are switching to 9mm, for costs. Bullet technology has greatly improved with the 9mm. I will stick with the P2000 9mm LEM.
@LoneStarLawman I agree with that sentiment as a fan of classic Sigs vs the new stuff. Also, I agree with the modern 9mm and cost savings for the government.
@@1776orbust The P2000 is still great today for concealed carry, with the LEM trigger that the government used. What is your EDC?
@@LoneStarLawman px4 storm compact carry
Why get a P2000 when you can get a P30, which is basically a hammer-fired VP9? Way better ergonomics. Nicer trigger. Only reason I can think of to get the P2000 is nostalgia or if you’re an HK collector.
For me it was purely nostalgia
I have both of the mentioned guns. I had the p2000 first and my thoughts were the same as yours which is why i picked up the p30… I ended up liking the p2000 better. It is a better size for carry, the grip is better for ME as I really disliked the p30 side panels shifting in my hand, and I also preferred the looks of the p2000 (my copy is a LEM). The only feature I think this gun is lacking is an optic cut, but that is also a frustration for me on the p30.
This is the only HK pistol able to be legally sold in California by the manufacturer. If you want a different HK model, you have to go private party and expect to pay a 2-3x markup.
USPC > P2000
20Y ears ago you and me were something to look at too. Not a good argument. Also I would rather carry the p2000 over the Beretta px4, look at how ugly and fat the whole gun is, that a terrible looking pistol. Also the Beretta doesn't have the best reputation.
As with hk I have never had issues with my Berettas
Interesting thing about HKs is they’re way overpriced and the citizens of the manufacturer’s country can’t buy/own them.
Break the gun down and let us see inside!!!!! Boring
Well you have the option of buying one for yourself and then you get to do anything you'd like
Boring!!!!!!!
@@johnnycampana3002 😥 my feelings are hurt. Have a great night
Shadow system shill
I'm a shill? Sorry, wrong channel.
“Has a plastic hammer “
Where ?
“It’s not a premium gun “
Hk has the strongest barrels and the longest lasting guide rod system period . I’ve owned all modern designs and no one else is made better and HK has the longest lasting pistol designs as far as parts breakage as well . Literally the dumbest review I’ve ever heard.
Awww, thank you
The misinformation in this video is a bit shocking. Also in response to the video, people’s hands are different.. I have large sized hands and the P2000 fits perfectly. 20 years later this gun doesn’t give anything up to new models. I didn’t purchase a P2000 as a vanity piece. It is a tool to be used, not a piece of a collection.