Ducati Desert X | 20000km Maintenance | Chain and Sprockets EP1
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Before I set off on another big trip I though it would be a good idea to at least carry out the 20,000km maintenance. The chain definitely needed replacing and you should do sprockets at the same time.
Lets just say things should have gone way easier for such an easy straight forward task. But no, even after getting the parts off I find the new parts are not suitable.
Great video, congrats.
First gear and hold down the rear brake pedal.
If you are alone you can use a strap to hold it down.
I wonder why Ducati chose to have that sprocket, and the rear axle nut for that matter, have such a high torque value. Seems very excessive. Good video though. I was hoping you'd show the chain install. There may be other videos out there but I haven't seen any DDX related.
Chain install will be in the next video, once the new sprocket arrives.
Apply the rear brake mate, & use a rattle gun.
I didnt show it, but it still rotated it, and was awkward as I was the only one there, sure if you had another person get them to crank down on the bike but locking the chain off worked best solo.
Thanks for the content creation. Not everyone is a pro with ALL the tools . Showing how we trip up is honestly refreshing to see. Info on front sprocket is a GOLD nugget and YES many of us in the Ducati Owners Club of Queensland will actually travel across the NSW boarder to visit Jackie, Jim and the wise old sage Arthur at DESMO Headquarters. Legends ALL! Ducati need to do better to support the Metro Dealers and customers. Subscribed !
Thanks for that, Ive been in contact with the distributor of the Esjot sprocket and they have had a look and confirmed that Esjot updated the part to that part number but forgot to remove that it was suitable for the Desert X. Long story short there is a Aftermarket sprocket to suit the Desert X but they stuffed up the packaging.
Excellent video and very useful, has been hard to find the rear sprocket. thanks so much
A little bit of heat on that sprocket’s nut and a proper breaker bar would’ve saved you some time & aggravation. Thank you for sharing your experience, really like your channel. 👍🏽
I had the very same problem with the front sprocket on a 2022 KLR650. Tried everything you did, even brought home an industrial grade air operated rattle gun and increased my compressors max to 120PSI, nothing worked. Ended up buying a heavy duty cordless rattle gun rated at 900NM + breakaway torque. Undid the nut in less than 2 seconds.
I think that first factory install is a bit extreme. I think mine would have been about 300-400nm before it finally released. Some of those new cordless ones are great.
The sprocket gods expect an offering of olive oil
I just did mine, the front sprocket nut came off super easy using an impact wrench. Didn’t put the bike in gear or press the rear brake, it just came undone! I’d definitely recommend you invest in one if you’re going to do your own changes in future. Makes undoing the rear axle nut easy too!
This nut was more than stuck, I did try an impact, didnt budge it. Sometimes they are just on tighter than they should be, and this is one of those times.
If I added up all the money I wasted on ordering the wrong parts or ones that didn't fit or work as advertised, I could have probably purchased another bike. It's aggravating. Thanks for making this video and saving us all the trouble. Hope you have a great trip. Cheers!
Thanks for that 👍 Yeah it can get very frustrating, I did talk to the supplier and found the problem. Ill talk about it in the next one once I get the new sprocket.
that front sprocket looked the wrong thickness, could it be for 525 instead of 530 chain ? did you buy the chain and sprockets as a set? just check the thickness on all is the same, better to be sure as they say. as someone else said, a breaker bar makes it all a lot easier. good luck with it all
It's all 525, the company put the wrong offset sprockets in the wrong packets. Part 2 shows it's all fixed so all good.
@@koalakoncepts glad you got it sorted. one thing i will say, is if you use sprockets from different manufacturers, they will have a different wear profile, and if both sprockets wear differently, they will affect the chain in slightly different ways as time goes on, from experience, that leads to faster chain wear. this i know from using lighter alloy or twin compound rear sprockets with steel front sprockets on trackdays lol
I think you installed a 520 countershaft sprocket instead of the stock 525, not advisable. You need a exact match in width between the chain and both sprockets to maximize longevity. I’m glad you ordered the OEM replacement.
It was a 525 sprocket, just the wrong offset, I contacted the supplier and they informed me the company Esjot had changed the part number for the sprocket, Essentially wrong sprocket, correct part number.
Never understood why Ducati has some crazy high torque values. I've had more powerful bikes and I don't think a front sprocket or rear axel has ever been more than 100-120nm.
Especially with a locking tab, its not required.
Great pick up with the front sprocket 👍easy vid to watch enjoyed it
Thanks, Yeah it definitely would have ended badly if I used that sprocket.
Rear Esjot are usually good, little success with their fronts, wear quickly. Front OE sprocket for the DX is actually cheaper than the Esjot too. Was cringing and just waiting for that screwdriver to snap....buggers are stupid tight hey :)
Yeah some things are definitely a little weird. That's why I used that screwdriver I knew it would bend before it snapped. Just a crappy Stanley one.
Heat is your friend, shoulda just ran a heat gun on the sprocket nut and hit it with an impact, worked great for me. Be interesting to see if how close your new chain comes to the clutch slave cylinder, it's really tight to begin with.
I dont like heating up that areas especially with the sensors there, the new chain will fit fine as they are both 525 chains.
man that was a struggle, that's good to know on the front sprocket i'll be buying OEM
Yeah, It was super tight, I was disappointed with the aftermarket front sprocket. I haven't gotten a response out of them just yet.
@@koalakoncepts I wonder if it's desert x specific, I've had a bunch of other Ducati's and never had that type of front sprocket
@dubreg6711 As in that type of OEM one? The aftermarket one fits about 100 different bikes. Thats why I was thinking they forgot to include a spacer to suit the different bikes.
@@koalakoncepts I've had non OEM replacement on 1299, 1199, 1098 and never had that spacer just exactly what you were supplied. This might be particular to this engine or bike it just seems odd
@dubreg6711 Im thinking because there havent been too many replacements of the front sprocket just yet, they are either getting done at a dealer, where they would only use the OEM one and would never come across this. The manufacturers of the aftermarket ones are only going off the spline number, labelling them as fitting without taking into account the offset or even trying them on a bike.
I would have used all oem parts myself but otherwise good job.
Thanks Glen, I have a little update about that in the next video.
Imagine if you had a friend who could sit on the bike and apply the brake
Unfortunately only imaginary ones. 😕 All good, this way worked out better anyway.
Dam 20,000 klm for a chain is pretty good, although not catching the grind sparks from the grinder is going to stick to parts and rust out were they stick 😬
For that little amount is fine, only hitting alloy and all wiped off clean when I cleaned up from the sprocket. I used a flap disk so it was sanding it down more so than grinding it.
@@koalakoncepts do you reckon if someone was putting the rear break on would’ve helped,? It was definitely on there 😮
@EddyOtway Yeah if it was two people you could hold the brake and put weight ontop of the bike, but at least this way the bike is in neutral, no strain on the brake except for the old chain and the gear you are replacing anyway. So still probably better doing it this way.
Hello, when desmo service? Regards from Poland
Desmo service is at 30,000km
Maybe next time re mortgage the house and get Ducati to fix it.
Hahah yeah, Ducati have only touched this bike enough to keep the warranty ticking over. I enjoy working on it and wasn't going to give up on this one.
@koalakoncepts best way mate. No body will look after a bike as much as the owner .👍
@martinfretwell Thats for sure, the last time I had to take my car to the dealer it came back with 2 chipped wheel rims and missing the oil filler cap which of course blew oil through the engine bay when they returned the car and I just stood their looking at them while they argued it wasnt their fault hahahh. Im definitely pretty strict if I have to take anything to a dealer these days, the guys I deal with for the bike are pretty good.
Always break the front spovket nut before you remove the chain
Wouldn't have mattered as the wheel still would have rotated as you can see. Only way was to lock off the chain.
@@koalakoncepts step on the rear brake at the same time..
@gabrielkopp2036 Good luck trying to apply that much pressure while standing on the opposite side of the bike leaning over. Its just not going to happen. Maybe with someone else there thats the only way.
@@koalakoncepts that's how I've always done it.. by my self.. 2 klr650s my wr250r and my tenere 700 and when my vstrom 800de needs it.. it's not hard you sit on the bike right foot on the brake braker bar in left hand it not hard
@gabrielkopp2036 If they want to come off with the normal pressure correct, this was over 300nm to take off, just not going to get that from sitting ontop of the bike.
lol
How much did you pay for the Ducati? 20k $$$? And now too cheap to let the dealer who actually knows what he's doing do a proper service... I'm laughing so hard right now.
Too cheap? Clearly you haven't seen any of my videos champ. And it was more than 20k if you really need to know. 😉
What's wrong with getting to know your vehicle and doing the maintenance yourself?
Funny to watch. Sorry, but you have really no clue how to change chain and sprockets. On my Multistrada it‘s torqued with 230Nm. Those have to be opened with easily 600-800 Nm or even more. I use 3/4“ tools and a thick 2m tube. Additionally I strap the bike to the ground and block the rear wheel. Even then it‘s not fun, specially if you do the job alone. You need a really tough rattle gun, which I dont have. I was very surprise when I made this work the 1st time some years ago. And never ever open the chain before you unscrewed the nut. It helps much, if the bolt is fully ground down. A lot of improvement possible in your work style (…….. you missed one nut of the rear sprocket). Your Ducati is it worth 😉.
Would have made no difference, you do understand that if I undid the nut before breaking the chain, the rear wheel still would have rotated. Using a high torque rattle gun while the vehicle is in gear is just asking for trouble. Especially if you are talking about 600-800nm (which I doubt) as you will start doing damage to the output shaft or 1st gear. This way the vehicle is in neutral and the only load is on parts you are replacing anyway. I think you might need to look at a different way of doing things.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 well done Ducati