Went in expecting to love it and came out loving it, had a few issues but I'm glad we're back to scary alien again. On another note, I need a ripe review to know why Sean hated Beetlejuice Beetlejuice so much😢
I liked Romulus for the most part i think its the most 7.5/10 movie ive ever seen, like its good but it really could of been better with the ideas that are brought up if it was given more room to breath. but i think the reason why this movie is getting SO MUCH LOVE is because it showed hope is still in the franchise.
It made $290 million dollars against an $80 million dollar budget. Fede Alvarez said that he might direct or co-direct an ALIEN VS PREDATOR reboot as well as more ALIEN films.
They only get back about 50% of domestic grosses and less than 25% of foreign. Also, it has grossed less than prometheus when you adjust for inflation.
For all of Covenant's sins, they really nailed the neomorph(the white ones) design imo. That initial intro scene was disturbing as fuck. That would have been an awesome creature to reveal for the climax to Romulus and would aesthetically make sense. And the thing in Romulus would have made more sense in Covenant. It's a shame Ridley and co. Got their creative wires crossed there.
I really enjoy Romulus the fact this is horror/thriller this time around. what made it enjoyable is due to my lack exposure or forgettable Alien 2 sequels.
If a person were to take a shot every time the film nostalgia baits they'd be dead from alcohol poisoning by the time Ian Holm's doppelganger shows up.
i hate spin defenses that just ignore that writers write the scenario to shoehorn/wedge a reference / nostalgia and hope you accept it as organic/natural/not lame. Don't blame us, blame the audience .
apparently it takes a minimum of 10,000 years for organic material to fossilise, granted the we don't know exactly what the ship was made from but most body of the pilot was certainly flesh enough in the first one XD
Good movie, I was good with the final creature because we've never seen a face hugger impregnate a pregnant human and they've been playing with Gene splicing since Alien 3. Just realized that when Ash was talking about the "perfect organism" he might've been talking about the black goo if that's what the face huggers use
I'm so jealous you had the opportunity to do the Universal Studios Alien ride. Growing up as a huge Aliens fan, that's all I ever wanted. Now as an adult, knowing its no longer available breaks my heart. lol.
I had s blast with Romulus actually. It made the Alien franchise scary again which, for me, has been kinda watered down after the two AVP films. 100% I get your complaints as well….the Aliens callback line didnt need to be there, but during my 2nd time seeing it in the theater with a very full crowd, the entire theater POPPED at that line. The general public might not be as deep in the Alien lore as we are, but everyone knows that line. 😅. I enjoyed the new additions to the Xenomorph’s life-cycle as well…all of that felt like something that “just happened off camera” in Alien for me. I went in also not wanting it to connect back to Prometheus and Covenant….but, honestly, after watching those two films again during our rewatch of the entire series, I appreciate and understand them a lot more now. Agree that the Newborn (for lack of a better term) here could have looked more Xeno instead of like an Engineer, but it didnt both me too much. Overall, I’m stoked that it’s 2024 and we have an Alien film killing it at the box office once again….and I’m hopeful for the future of the franchise as a result. And this goes without saying, but as always, great episode fellas! Cheers!
We talked to him a while back about possibly doing that but he’s taking a break from the Internet right now, so maybe next year or some time in the future!
Y’all did a great job basically summarizing how I felt about Romulus. It’s a movie that I WISH that I loved but unfortunately there’s too much silly decisions there that held me back from feeling that ways. Personally I’m hoping Fede gets another crack at an Alien movie but this time around he’s off Ridley Scott’s leash but that’s just me.
Great review! Speaking of movies with a bunch of sequels, do you think y'all will ever do Hello Mary Lou Prom Night 2? I think y'all would have a field day with it. Definitely the best of the bunch, besides part 3. Anyway, keep up the great work!
Yes! When Prometheus opened with the guy drinking the stuff, I thought we might fade into Mulder at one of those FBI hearings where he's describing the goo to a room full of skeptical bureaucrats and that's how we were gonna finally get a good sequel to Fight the Future. Imagine if the entire X-Files saga was just a prelude to Alien/Terminator/Blade Runner! Talk about a 2-fer!
Liked this movie! I liked it more than Tony did. I too didn’t care for the callbacks, which thinking of a first time viewer hearing Andy struggle through “Get away from her…. You bitch.” Would’ve confused me. Just say “get away from her!” That would’ve been fine. Ian Holm’s uncanny valley-post-mortem-performance was unfortunate, but I’m not entirely surprised that they went with that. Grand Moff Tarkin anyone?
@@MovieDumpster I am interested for sure. I was a tad disappointed in the “greatest hits” aspect to Romulus, so am hoping for some originality and new interesting avenues. Imagine if the future Earth was the same as BLADE RUNNER? Another fantastic concept imo.
Alien is my favorite movie and one of my favorite franchises. And as someone that absolutely hated Prometheus, I was actually more interested by that hybrid the black goo made. That to me was more interesting than any of the fuckin callbacks. If this movie had exactly the same plot and same script, didn't do the line callbacks, and Ian Holm was NOT a CGI monster and they made a real puppet like they did for Bishop in Alien 3, then I would've loved it.
Revive? Not really. Provide an enjoyable midquel? Yes. I just wish Rook had been in it less. So much of his dialogue could've been given to Andy as he went through a personality conflict with the update.
I read that OG Dan Script. It's online for anyone who is wondering, AND I don't know what these guys are talking about because it's the exact same film as Alien. Literally, they just changed the names, and yeah, no Robot but delete Ash's scenes and the way the Alien gets defeated kinda. Crazy.
@@MarvelHorrorC I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to? Us talking about it, or the fact that David Giler and Walter Hill claim they modified Dan and Ron's script, making Alien what it is. Which I don't agree with, and is what I basically said. -Joe
@@MovieDumpster I appreciate the humility in your edit! I eventually understood what you meant, but it was a little touch and go there at first. I was like “Is Sean talking about hieroglyphics?”. It all makes sense now, though! 😆
I honestly felt that this new alien film was actually “fine and fun”, a 6/10 rating if you will, if you enjoy a good popcorn flick. The callbacks were OK to a point until eventually they become a boring and predictable, however I will say this much that it was way better than Prometheus and alien covenant.
I like your videos i been hooked since i saw you all talk about John Carpenters Vampires.A guilty pleasure of a movie for me the Alien franchise has always been a fun watch the original trilogy is great.I wont even dwell on the AVP movies expect the predator in requiem Wolf was a total badass..New subscriber for sure i tip my hat you guys keep up the good work
I'm the guy that proposed a few years back that they essentially adapt the Alien Isolation game, nothing too original just some good characters, tension, general ALIEN aesthetic, music and comfort food. But not lifting scenes, characters or lines directly from other films. Parts of Romulus I dug, parts I hated. And I really like Fede Alvarez as a director so I was kind of let down.
Such a good and honest review! Alien is my autism fascination and I enjoyed this review very much. The review was better than the last half of the movie. - LiL
No it ruins alien and aliens worse than prometheus did. Aliens basically is a useless movie now. Why would they give ripley souch shit about what she did if they knew all of it already
Aliens is like 57 years later, so it makes sense they are like “wait who the fuck are you? Oh you wasted an expensive space station and are babbling about a creature that has never been seen in over 50 surveyed worlds” which, I don’t think those suits were directly Weyland Yutani anyway (Burke is separate from them, I believe, working directly for Weyland-Yutani), but even if they were, they would play dumb like the creature never existed because they had ulterior motives for the Hadley’s Hope colony on LV-426. -Joe
Prometheus is great, Covenant is an abomination, they're still Canon regardless of what any fan thinks. We don't have that ownership, we spend $15 and eat mid popcorn, we aren't entitled to anything.
Thought the movie was good and liked it until the Ian Holm appearance, hated it then on. Thought the rest of the movie was bland after that, but that ending scene pulled me back in.
I think I misspoke, I could have sworn they showed her in her cryo pod sleeping. It had been a couple weeks since I saw the movie in theaters though when we filmed the review. -Sean
@scottneil1187 because Ripley burned the alien in the fire engines of the nostromus...then she blew up the nastromos with three nuke blasts...in space there would be nothing left at all
A lot of the criticisms came off as nit picky and things that you personally wanted to see in the film and not watching it objectively without holding it to any preconceived storylines that you wanted. Second this franchise isn’t some master theater work. It’s a sci-fi franchise with plot holes and wonky characters throughout. You hade some valid points after the non spoiler section but for the first hour everything came off pretty pretentious and as if you didn’t just allow yourself to enjoy the film. I’m not saying to not have criticism because I do have them for this movie as well but just seems like you were being overly critical to a film in a franchise that is just a sci-fi good time.
I don’t think it’s pretentious to be critical of a movie. Certain things just really rubbed me the wrong way about the film (like I mention in the review), while I mentioned the things I liked. We shouldn’t excuse plot holes either, that’s something we would bring up in any review. I try to hold every movie up to the same scrutiny for better or worse, that’s just how I look at all movies, so if we’re getting too into the woodwork for you, well… that’s the show haha. Thanks for watching either way! -Sean
Just wait til the newest, moronic generation takes over, 5 second attention spans and absolutely no knowledge of film history or myth and folklore. Get ready for nothing but fortnite and Minecraft movies.
I'm also on the side of strongly disliking Prometheus and hating Covenant so def get the disappointment and negative feelings towards Romulus. Also HATE the "oooh look at that thing from this movie" type of film we've been getting nonstop where EVERYTHING has to be connected or direct referencing/calling back to a past movie. It is already bad enough in the Predator series where like every movie has to have someone saying "You're one ugly motherfucker" or some other reference to the original. It's like nothing can exist on its own anymore in a natural way, there needs to be some forced and unnatural tie to some other "cameo", reference, line, or callback that everyone else has done or heard or seen 10000 times already. Could not care for the characters at all, though David Jonsson did really well as Andy. But immediately you know him and the not-Ripley were going to be the ones that survive. There's zero natural tension in scenes as you know the crew all will die but them. The *one* tense scene is the one with the facehuggers in the temp-controlled room, and that if I'm remembering correctly even cuts away at points to other scenes in between and could've been longer.
Thank you for name dropping Neil Blomkamp’s Oats Studios short films. They are fantastic and I hate that they have not gotten the attention they deserve.
Honestly, part of me wished two things 1. This movie failed at the box office but unfortunately for me and alien fans who hated this movie, is doing well at the box office and i lost my anger & mind and over this mind. Unless any movie surprisingly beats AR, it will make up to 400 to 500 million dollars box office successful and make a sequel in future and there's nothing me & alien fans can do about it. I am forced to accept things I cannot change. 2. Bring back Neill Blomkamp to make Alien 5 reboot (direct sequel to James Cameron's Aliens 1986, which ignores all alien sequels after the second film, bringing back Ripley, Bishop, Hicks, Newt). I liked his artwork and storyline except the part derelict ship is human DNA (what was Neill Blomkamp thinking? He can do better than that). 3. Can't believe I am saying but in Romulus sequels, fede should bring in alien races from alien comics (based on alien film Franchise) like malak & amenji from AvP comics in Alien Romulus sequels
@@davealaya that and THE PREDATOR are the absolute worst ones, but the rest range from great to mediocre, even prometheus, while not great isn't offensively bad
it was ok. on second watch the dumb stuff really stands out sadly. Still enjoyed the visual spectacle and settings. Really effective in making it feel connected with the first film just wish they hadn’t used Ian Holmes as Rook and just went with a new model.
The Dark Horse comics were incredible. Would love the movies to eventually adapt those stories. A version of the original AVP and War with Machiko as well as ALIENS: Genocide could be nuts.
This movie was a mess and like most, I loved the first 30 min set up, but once it became what it was supposed to, I hated everything about it. I can't do what Ridley Scott wants us all to do, which is unlearn everything Aliens set up and became standard for the franchise as the life cycle of the xenomorph, from the Dark Horse comics, books, etc. He never liked the idea of them being like a "hive" or having a "queen." I sat there confused as hell as to how from one dead, fossilized Alien, they managed to produce dozens upon dozens of facehuggers, with no eggs. How from one Xenomorph being born, are there suddenly dozens of them later one when there were no hosts. Where did the dozen or so other Xenos come from? The callbacks were ridiculous. Ian Holm was beyond absurd. I sighed so hard when the black goo appeared the score referenced the main theme from Prometheus. And the final act being a complete duplicate of Ressurection in the worst way possible I hated. I kept checking my phone seeing what time it was because I wanted out of the theater.
I haven't seen it, but the general consensus appears to be it's good because the previous two entries were so bad. It sounds like it nails the aesthetic and tone of the franchise, but the story isn't quite there and the use of deceased actors is distasteful. It literally could've been any android to drop that exposition, but that's a look what we can do with AI moment. I think it has to cut the Prometheus umbilical cord to be successful and whether that's Ridley Scott forcing writers to put it in as a producer or whatever, it's hurting the franchise. Predator was smart with Prey. Predators expanded more on the lore which is great, but then The Predator almost killed it with the Predators hunt not for sport, but for autism and it's so jarring that Prey took back to the thrill of the hunt. The Xenomorphs existing for millions of years unchanged because they are the perfect organism is fine we don't need that explained as to how they came to be etc. Let them exist as is.
I saw alien three first because of my age. It was on cable as a kid. I think it goes l: aliens, alien, alien three, four, covenant, Prometheus. I don’t think AVP should be in that list because they are their own movies.
Definitly in my top 3, altought it took me a while to be at peace with the ending and that Ian Holmes CGI cameo is horrible. Still a lot of fun and I would keep going in the same direction.
The moment I saw Bishop's likeness, I was done. We don't need to CONSTANTLY callback to previous movies. Yes.. I saw Alien (1978).. Please don't remind me of it while I'm trying to enjoy a new plot.. "KNOW WHAT I MEAN, VERNE?!"
I'll give it a watch eventually but not happy about it having stuff from the garbage fests that were Prometheus and Covenant. They should have kept the android naming convention and called him Eric or another name beginning with E. Ash, Bishop, Call, David then an E name. What exactly is this cyro thing you keep mentioning?. Also, they absolutely have done the face hugger sensing motion stuff before, how do you think it knows someones near an egg?, do you think the one that impregnated Kane just coincidentally opened the egg?. The gestation period in 3 took so long because it's a queen foetus. It's only the pilot in Alien that's fossilised and no, there wasn't nearly enough time between Prometheus and Alien for it to happen, it takes thousands of years not 30. I don't know where you're getting this 'Bishop knew there was a facehugger' like he was responsible, he only knew cause he accessed the Sulaco logs when he was reactivated.
Unless I misunderstood the scene in Alien 3 (theatrical cut), Ripley gets Bishop working again and he admits to knowing the face hugger was on the ship with them before it crashes. I can see what you mean about the face huggers working on motion too, the eggs opening is a good point. And maybe Ripley having the Queen Alien in her would take longer, but still in Romulus it’s like ten minutes so no way near enough time going by the lore. Oh and I meant to say cryo, like cryogenic freezing haha. -Sean
I am SO thankful that you guys touched on Ridley's rewriting of history because I kinda have felt off with how over involved he has been in recent years and I couldn't put my finger on why. He really lost me when talking about alien covenant and claiming that the "protomorph" featured in the movie can regenerate and is basically immortal. To me that felt very Cartman from South Park. Take something over and then keep creating powers so you don't lose the playground fight. And his recent attitudes have been VERY childish. I'm very glad Fede is involved and I hope he continues to make projects in the franchise
oh Joe, you beat me too it. I was just going to say it would have been so much cooler if it was like Sill from species and would have made more sense with the design because both designed by giger
Loved the movie!! I didn't even mind the "Get away from her you bitch" because hey, quantum entanglement is a real thing and Andy and Ripley are both just tapping into the same collective consciousnesses in the universe and pulled out that same line to say when kicking alien ass!! As an Alien junkie for 30 years, I loved the Ian Holm stuff, he looked robotic and 'off', and it made sense that he was the "science officer" model that Wayland Yutani mass produces and puts into service
Older effects "look better" because the video quality was awful. Of course, you can't see shit with a 17-inch 240P tube TV compared to 4K 60FPS ultrawide OLED. Plus, the explosion of the 80s effects films made great effects artists extremely expensive and spread way too thin, which leads to subpar work and the eventual turn to digital. I don't get caught up with my nostalgia, movies I loved as a kid, I hate as an adult. Doesn't take away from my childhood in any way. I can compartmentalize that.
I expected the baby to become a queen while they were in cryosleep, and there was a part when Rook checked the computer on the pods I think they took...maybe suggesting they're not alone... The hybrid stuff does open up more possibilities of evolution after seeing some crossbreed designs online. Kind of a good start and setup for sequels.
For me it was the final nail in the coffin. I really liked the direction and production of the movie, there were lots of great shots. Outside of Andy and the main actress the characters were card board cut outs. The story was okay, but there was just stuff that didn't make sense. The only memorable dialogue was the lines they reused from previous Alien movies. I didn't find it scary or edge of my seat. I enjoyed it while I was watching it but there was nothing there that would make me want to revisit it. What killed the movie for me was bringing the black goo into it. I'm not a fan of the prequels, I prefer to pretend they didn't exist, but this movie makes that harder to do, so I think I'm just going to tap out on Aliens. The first 2 are special, and the third one gave us an ending. This movie just proved they are never going to recapture that magic.
Romulus really disappointed me, especially when people have been praising it. It has the same problem I had with Prometheus and Covenant, and that problem is that everyone is painfully stupid
overall though it might just be because the last movies have been so bad. I enjoyed this cuz it made the aliens scary again. they made the acid blood dangerous again. I didn't need some of this stupid callbacks but I still enjoyed it
That's so funny the first thing you go off on was my number one complaint was everyone I talked to about the movie I was like. I enjoyed it. the effects were pretty good for the most part but there's one face replacement that sticks out so bad lol
I personally love all of the movies in their own ways. I really will never get the serious hate for Prometheus and covenant since there's so much cool stuff in those films. I return to them infinitely more than 3 or resurrection which I still like but can be a slog to get through at points imo
Ian Holmes pissed me off tremendously. The fucking audacity! But....as pathetic as that was it served a story purpose. I personally think this is my 3rd favorite. (ALIEN is untouchable so idk why people keep expecting it.) I literally yelled "You sick fucker you did it!!!" when my "oh my God please have it be a monster baby. I will clap. Please" happened The only thing that kinda ruins seeing a movie these days is you always have it in the back of your mind "oh everyone is gonna bitch about this part" Overall though, it felt like being in outer space idk I loved ROMULUS in spite of.
I think this movie is fine and fun like Tony from Hack the Movies describes Resident Evil Welcome to Raccoon City. It's not great and also, it's not terrible. And yeah, Ian Holms in this movie was so bizarre when I saw the movie in the theaters because the filmmakers could have use anyone. Hollywood needs to stop doing that. Could have got the androids from Alien Isolation that look like Kevin Bacon's character from Hollow Man (2000) when he already invisible and his co-workers make him a mask to see him lol And Joe when you mentioned the Aliens comics from Dark Horse Comics and short stories and how the filmmakers could of use them as inspiration, I totally agree with you. The same with Predator and Aliens vs Predators franchises as well. I remember reading the first Batman/Aliens comic crossover where Batman fights a Xenomorph crossbred with a crocodile in the Amazon and that was both amazing and original.
It's really cool that you mix the usual reviews with newer stuff. It keeps the channel fresh. I know you two fine gentlemen are busy people but are you thinking about reviewing "Beetlejuice Beetlejuice"? Have a good one!
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Went in expecting to love it and came out loving it, had a few issues but I'm glad we're back to scary alien again.
On another note, I need a ripe review to know why Sean hated Beetlejuice Beetlejuice so much😢
This movie was scary alien? Alright then.
I liked Romulus for the most part i think its the most 7.5/10 movie ive ever seen, like its good but it really could of been better with the ideas that are brought up if it was given more room to breath. but i think the reason why this movie is getting SO MUCH LOVE is because it showed hope is still in the franchise.
It made $290 million dollars against an $80 million dollar budget.
Fede Alvarez said that he might direct or co-direct an ALIEN VS PREDATOR reboot as well as more ALIEN films.
They only get back about 50% of domestic grosses and less than 25% of foreign. Also, it has grossed less than prometheus when you adjust for inflation.
Yeah, he wanted to work the director of Prey and describe it as From Dusk Till Dawn style and honestly that would be amazing.
@@wretchardkimball9049 300 million now. It made a profit.
His direction and the production were the best part. They need better script writers, and forget the black goo nonsense.
For all of Covenant's sins, they really nailed the neomorph(the white ones) design imo. That initial intro scene was disturbing as fuck. That would have been an awesome creature to reveal for the climax to Romulus and would aesthetically make sense. And the thing in Romulus would have made more sense in Covenant. It's a shame Ridley and co. Got their creative wires crossed there.
I really enjoy Romulus the fact this is horror/thriller this time around. what made it enjoyable is due to my lack exposure or forgettable Alien 2 sequels.
The callbacks in Romulus were so frequent and blatant. Broke the fantasy for easy smiles. 🤷
If a person were to take a shot every time the film nostalgia baits they'd be dead from alcohol poisoning by the time Ian Holm's doppelganger shows up.
i hate spin defenses that just ignore that writers write the scenario to shoehorn/wedge a reference / nostalgia and hope you accept it as organic/natural/not lame. Don't blame us, blame the audience .
apparently it takes a minimum of 10,000 years for organic material to fossilise, granted the we don't know exactly what the ship was made from but most body of the pilot was certainly flesh enough in the first one XD
personally i always assumed the ship in the first one WAS thousands of years old, obviously that's been retconned now
Good movie, I was good with the final creature because we've never seen a face hugger impregnate a pregnant human and they've been playing with Gene splicing since Alien 3.
Just realized that when Ash was talking about the "perfect organism" he might've been talking about the black goo if that's what the face huggers use
I'm so jealous you had the opportunity to do the Universal Studios Alien ride. Growing up as a huge Aliens fan, that's all I ever wanted. Now as an adult, knowing its no longer available breaks my heart. lol.
I thought for sure there was going to be a sequal for district 9! Loved that movie, one of the last i saw in theaters, if not THE last movie..
One day Neill will make it… I hope! 🤞-Sean
They had to tie in the black goo because Scott was a producer
I had s blast with Romulus actually. It made the Alien franchise scary again which, for me, has been kinda watered down after the two AVP films. 100% I get your complaints as well….the Aliens callback line didnt need to be there, but during my 2nd time seeing it in the theater with a very full crowd, the entire theater POPPED at that line. The general public might not be as deep in the Alien lore as we are, but everyone knows that line. 😅. I enjoyed the new additions to the Xenomorph’s life-cycle as well…all of that felt like something that “just happened off camera” in Alien for me. I went in also not wanting it to connect back to Prometheus and Covenant….but, honestly, after watching those two films again during our rewatch of the entire series, I appreciate and understand them a lot more now. Agree that the Newborn (for lack of a better term) here could have looked more Xeno instead of like an Engineer, but it didnt both me too much. Overall, I’m stoked that it’s 2024 and we have an Alien film killing it at the box office once again….and I’m hopeful for the future of the franchise as a result.
And this goes without saying, but as always, great episode fellas! Cheers!
Rumor has it you'll be bringing Kieran back for a Resident Evil review. It'd be great to see him on the show again.
We talked to him a while back about possibly doing that but he’s taking a break from the Internet right now, so maybe next year or some time in the future!
I had a fun time with it but I won’t argue the negatives with anyone. It was “okay” for me.
Had alien hung up like jeepers creepers
They really did! 😆
Y’all did a great job basically summarizing how I felt about Romulus. It’s a movie that I WISH that I loved but unfortunately there’s too much silly decisions there that held me back from feeling that ways.
Personally I’m hoping Fede gets another crack at an Alien movie but this time around he’s off Ridley Scott’s leash but that’s just me.
Unless they've done another one none of the cube movies including the Japanese remake ever went to space
Must be something I cooked up in my mind I want it so bad! 😂
@@MovieDumpsterwell considering the first one had what's her name from DS9 and the guy from Stargate Atlantis, I'm surprised cube 2 didn't go there
Great review! Speaking of movies with a bunch of sequels, do you think y'all will ever do Hello Mary Lou Prom Night 2? I think y'all would have a field day with it. Definitely the best of the bunch, besides part 3. Anyway, keep up the great work!
Love Prom Night 2! Complete departure in the best way, haha.
Wasn’t it just a greatest hits reel from all the other films? 🥴 “gee I sure hope final girl wins! Ope she did it again. Very original!”
Oh shut up already
@@MrBoooneFollow your own rules.
God no wonder you internet people spend so much time on the internet.
@@scottneil1187 you added nothing in saying that
you're confusing this with ghostbusters afterlife perhaps
Black goo is a great addition to the lore.
“Trust no one.”
X-Files had black goo first lol
That’s what I always think of when I see black goo in anything else haha! -Sean
Yes! When Prometheus opened with the guy drinking the stuff, I thought we might fade into Mulder at one of those FBI hearings where he's describing the goo to a room full of skeptical bureaucrats and that's how we were gonna finally get a good sequel to Fight the Future. Imagine if the entire X-Files saga was just a prelude to Alien/Terminator/Blade Runner! Talk about a 2-fer!
Liked this movie! I liked it more than Tony did. I too didn’t care for the callbacks, which thinking of a first time viewer hearing Andy struggle through “Get away from her…. You bitch.” Would’ve confused me. Just say “get away from her!” That would’ve been fine. Ian Holm’s uncanny valley-post-mortem-performance was unfortunate, but I’m not entirely surprised that they went with that. Grand Moff Tarkin anyone?
I thought Tarkin actually looked way better, but it’s a low friggin bar! -Sean
Hybrid did look goofy
ALIEN COLON EARTH.
Sounds shitty to me.
Hell yeah dude.
I’m really wondering what they are going to do with that, and if the Dark Horse Aliens: Earth War comic arc will come into play. -Joe
@@MovieDumpster I am interested for sure. I was a tad disappointed in the “greatest hits” aspect to Romulus, so am hoping for some originality and new interesting avenues. Imagine if the future Earth was the same as BLADE RUNNER? Another fantastic concept imo.
I really enjoyed this, but I went into it knowing that it takes elements from everything that came before it.
Alien is my favorite movie and one of my favorite franchises. And as someone that absolutely hated Prometheus, I was actually more interested by that hybrid the black goo made. That to me was more interesting than any of the fuckin callbacks. If this movie had exactly the same plot and same script, didn't do the line callbacks, and Ian Holm was NOT a CGI monster and they made a real puppet like they did for Bishop in Alien 3, then I would've loved it.
Great review, I loved this movie and all the Prometheus stuff
Thanks for watching! 🙏💚📼
Revive? Not really. Provide an enjoyable midquel? Yes.
I just wish Rook had been in it less. So much of his dialogue could've been given to Andy as he went through a personality conflict with the update.
It was a great fan film
I read that OG Dan Script. It's online for anyone who is wondering, AND I don't know what these guys are talking about because it's the exact same film as Alien. Literally, they just changed the names, and yeah, no Robot but delete Ash's scenes and the way the Alien gets defeated kinda. Crazy.
There are a lot of callbacks but I would never say it’s just Alien with a reskin, not even close. -Sean
@@MovieDumpster That's fair maybe because I've already seen Alien I visualize the Dan Script into that Universe.
@@MarvelHorrorC I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to? Us talking about it, or the fact that David Giler and Walter Hill claim they modified Dan and Ron's script, making Alien what it is. Which I don't agree with, and is what I basically said. -Joe
Why does Sean keep saying “Cairo Chambers”? Is he having a stroke? 🤨
“Cryo” is short for cryogenic, that’s what I was saying. Or rather, trying to say. 🤣
@@MovieDumpster I appreciate the humility in your edit! I eventually understood what you meant, but it was a little touch and go there at first. I was like “Is Sean talking about hieroglyphics?”. It all makes sense now, though! 😆
Thanks guys!
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I honestly felt that this new alien film was actually “fine and fun”, a 6/10 rating if you will, if you enjoy a good popcorn flick. The callbacks were OK to a point until eventually they become a boring and predictable, however I will say this much that it was way better than Prometheus and alien covenant.
I like your videos i been hooked since i saw you all talk about John Carpenters Vampires.A guilty pleasure of a movie for me the Alien franchise has always been a fun watch the original trilogy is great.I wont even dwell on the AVP movies expect the predator in requiem Wolf was a total badass..New subscriber for sure i tip my hat you guys keep up the good work
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I'm the guy that proposed a few years back that they essentially adapt the Alien Isolation game, nothing too original just some good characters, tension, general ALIEN aesthetic, music and comfort food. But not lifting scenes, characters or lines directly from other films. Parts of Romulus I dug, parts I hated. And I really like Fede Alvarez as a director so I was kind of let down.
Guess im the only one who loves prometheus and covenant
Such a good and honest review! Alien is my autism fascination and I enjoyed this review very much. The review was better than the last half of the movie. - LiL
NO it was mediocre at best and the cast other than the AI was terrible. It was scary but alien was just the backdrop
If you found it scary sounds like it did its job and can't be mediocre. Really doubt it is scary though. Nothing has been in film for decades.
No it ruins alien and aliens worse than prometheus did. Aliens basically is a useless movie now. Why would they give ripley souch shit about what she did if they knew all of it already
Aliens is like 57 years later, so it makes sense they are like “wait who the fuck are you? Oh you wasted an expensive space station and are babbling about a creature that has never been seen in over 50 surveyed worlds” which, I don’t think those suits were directly Weyland Yutani anyway (Burke is separate from them, I believe, working directly for Weyland-Yutani), but even if they were, they would play dumb like the creature never existed because they had ulterior motives for the Hadley’s Hope colony on LV-426. -Joe
Where are my Prometheus and Covenant heads at
Here, friggin love those films. So glad Romulus didn't ignore them.
Love Prometheus but not so sure about Covenant.
Prometheus is great, Covenant is an abomination, they're still Canon regardless of what any fan thinks. We don't have that ownership, we spend $15 and eat mid popcorn, we aren't entitled to anything.
Thought the movie was good and liked it until the Ian Holm appearance, hated it then on. Thought the rest of the movie was bland after that, but that ending scene pulled me back in.
CAIRO chamber?? Giger's name is also pronounced GEE-GER.
My mouth was all over the place this episode! I meant cryo chamber, like cryogenic. 😆 Thanks, I’ll do better next time. -Sean
Where is Ripley in this movie??????????
I think I misspoke, I could have sworn they showed her in her cryo pod sleeping. It had been a couple weeks since I saw the movie in theaters though when we filmed the review. -Sean
There not kids there in there early 20's
Well sure, “kids” meaning young adults. Especially when you compare them to the 30 or 40 something’s usually seen in other Alien movies. -Sean
A lot of copy paste going on in it.
Retcon the Alien floating in space until found by the Romulas... What?
How is that a retcon?.
@scottneil1187 because Ripley burned the alien in the fire engines of the nostromus...then she blew up the nastromos with three nuke blasts...in space there would be nothing left at all
The ending was garbage. Ruined a perfectly good movie
it's not perfect . . the movie nor the organism
Prometheus sucks the characters act way to dumb for scientist
You two sound so pretentious…
How so?
A lot of the criticisms came off as nit picky and things that you personally wanted to see in the film and not watching it objectively without holding it to any preconceived storylines that you wanted. Second this franchise isn’t some master theater work. It’s a sci-fi franchise with plot holes and wonky characters throughout. You hade some valid points after the non spoiler section but for the first hour everything came off pretty pretentious and as if you didn’t just allow yourself to enjoy the film. I’m not saying to not have criticism because I do have them for this movie as well but just seems like you were being overly critical to a film in a franchise that is just a sci-fi good time.
@@MovieDumpsteralso not counting the prequels and ignoring them because they don’t fit in the franchise the way you want just seems silly to me.
I don’t think it’s pretentious to be critical of a movie. Certain things just really rubbed me the wrong way about the film (like I mention in the review), while I mentioned the things I liked. We shouldn’t excuse plot holes either, that’s something we would bring up in any review. I try to hold every movie up to the same scrutiny for better or worse, that’s just how I look at all movies, so if we’re getting too into the woodwork for you, well… that’s the show haha. Thanks for watching either way! -Sean
As someone that hates that stupid kids are running shit today and ruining shit i 100 %agree with you all.
Just wait til the newest, moronic generation takes over, 5 second attention spans and absolutely no knowledge of film history or myth and folklore. Get ready for nothing but fortnite and Minecraft movies.
I'm also on the side of strongly disliking Prometheus and hating Covenant so def get the disappointment and negative feelings towards Romulus. Also HATE the "oooh look at that thing from this movie" type of film we've been getting nonstop where EVERYTHING has to be connected or direct referencing/calling back to a past movie. It is already bad enough in the Predator series where like every movie has to have someone saying "You're one ugly motherfucker" or some other reference to the original. It's like nothing can exist on its own anymore in a natural way, there needs to be some forced and unnatural tie to some other "cameo", reference, line, or callback that everyone else has done or heard or seen 10000 times already.
Could not care for the characters at all, though David Jonsson did really well as Andy. But immediately you know him and the not-Ripley were going to be the ones that survive. There's zero natural tension in scenes as you know the crew all will die but them. The *one* tense scene is the one with the facehuggers in the temp-controlled room, and that if I'm remembering correctly even cuts away at points to other scenes in between and could've been longer.
Thank you for name dropping Neil Blomkamp’s Oats Studios short films. They are fantastic and I hate that they have not gotten the attention they deserve.
Honestly, part of me wished two things
1. This movie failed at the box office but unfortunately for me and alien fans who hated this movie, is doing well at the box office and i lost my anger & mind and over this mind. Unless any movie surprisingly beats AR, it will make up to 400 to 500 million dollars box office successful and make a sequel in future and there's nothing me & alien fans can do about it. I am forced to accept things I cannot change.
2. Bring back Neill Blomkamp to make Alien 5 reboot (direct sequel to James Cameron's Aliens 1986, which ignores all alien sequels after the second film, bringing back Ripley, Bishop, Hicks, Newt). I liked his artwork and storyline except the part derelict ship is human DNA (what was Neill Blomkamp thinking? He can do better than that).
3. Can't believe I am saying but in Romulus sequels, fede should bring in alien races from alien comics (based on alien film Franchise) like malak & amenji from AvP comics in Alien Romulus sequels
That deserves and episode in some format or other. Advertise that Blomkamp art!
I personally really enjoyed it but its definitely not perfect and has flaws
I enjoyed the movie, but when they revealed Rook and he spoke.....that was some Forrest Gump ass CGI.
The CGI from Forrest Gump holds up waayyy better than that abomination ever will
I count all of them as canon because I decided to hurt myself and watch every single alien and predator film in the last 3 days.
AvP Requiem is unreal lol, soooo bad.
@@davealaya that and THE PREDATOR are the absolute worst ones, but the rest range from great to mediocre, even prometheus, while not great isn't offensively bad
I think the film did the orginal justice and i loved how it continues the story of promethus! So i was happy with the movie overall
I wanna see this at some point! Love the first alien and aliens!
Then do yourself a favor and don't watch it, it ruins both those movies.
Don’t listen to that other guy, it’s a great movie!
@@TheRealBGregzhow can you justify it being a great movie when it retcons the best movie in the franchise
@@TheFSUShow24 In what way does it retcon the original?
@@TheFSUShow24 It didn't retcon anything.
I enjoy it
Feel like I was the only one who loved this movie. I loved that they bridge the gap between all the movies and I love that they brought Ian Holm back.
I really enjoyed this move overall, but there are a few nitpicks and some big caveats that kept it from being as good as it could have been.
it was ok. on second watch the dumb stuff really stands out sadly. Still enjoyed the visual spectacle and settings. Really effective in making it feel connected with the first film just wish they hadn’t used Ian Holmes as Rook and just went with a new model.
The Dark Horse comics were incredible. Would love the movies to eventually adapt those stories. A version of the original AVP and War with Machiko as well as ALIENS: Genocide could be nuts.
This movie was a mess and like most, I loved the first 30 min set up, but once it became what it was supposed to, I hated everything about it. I can't do what Ridley Scott wants us all to do, which is unlearn everything Aliens set up and became standard for the franchise as the life cycle of the xenomorph, from the Dark Horse comics, books, etc. He never liked the idea of them being like a "hive" or having a "queen." I sat there confused as hell as to how from one dead, fossilized Alien, they managed to produce dozens upon dozens of facehuggers, with no eggs. How from one Xenomorph being born, are there suddenly dozens of them later one when there were no hosts. Where did the dozen or so other Xenos come from? The callbacks were ridiculous. Ian Holm was beyond absurd. I sighed so hard when the black goo appeared the score referenced the main theme from Prometheus. And the final act being a complete duplicate of Ressurection in the worst way possible I hated. I kept checking my phone seeing what time it was because I wanted out of the theater.
I haven't seen it, but the general consensus appears to be it's good because the previous two entries were so bad. It sounds like it nails the aesthetic and tone of the franchise, but the story isn't quite there and the use of deceased actors is distasteful. It literally could've been any android to drop that exposition, but that's a look what we can do with AI moment. I think it has to cut the Prometheus umbilical cord to be successful and whether that's Ridley Scott forcing writers to put it in as a producer or whatever, it's hurting the franchise.
Predator was smart with Prey. Predators expanded more on the lore which is great, but then The Predator almost killed it with the Predators hunt not for sport, but for autism and it's so jarring that Prey took back to the thrill of the hunt. The Xenomorphs existing for millions of years unchanged because they are the perfect organism is fine we don't need that explained as to how they came to be etc. Let them exist as is.
Alrighty, gotta stop the episode now... cuz my lazy ass hasn't seen the movie yet. BUT, to quote Arnie: I'll be back.
I saw alien three first because of my age. It was on cable as a kid. I think it goes l: aliens, alien, alien three, four, covenant, Prometheus. I don’t think AVP should be in that list because they are their own movies.
I thought it was pretty good. I agree with both of you about the cardinal sins the movie makes but I still think it was fine and fun. 7/10
Definitly in my top 3, altought it took me a while to be at peace with the ending and that Ian Holmes CGI cameo is horrible. Still a lot of fun and I would keep going in the same direction.
I ilke this flim a lot there aging indo ilke alien 4 great to here u guys talk about alien flims and cubes fkim are lot of fun
Predator 2 is 1990
'Prometheus' was way better.
The moment I saw Bishop's likeness, I was done. We don't need to CONSTANTLY callback to previous movies. Yes.. I saw Alien (1978).. Please don't remind me of it while I'm trying to enjoy a new plot.. "KNOW WHAT I MEAN, VERNE?!"
@@DirtBoyTrillaBishop isn't in it. You mean Ash.
Can't be, I've not seen Romulus but there's no way it's as bad as that piece of junk.
I was forced to type 'Bishop' at gunpoint.. They were going to garrote my Grandma!!
This franchise hasn’t been revived since 1986.
I’m sadly inclined to agree at this rate. -Sean
I'll give it a watch eventually but not happy about it having stuff from the garbage fests that were Prometheus and Covenant. They should have kept the android naming convention and called him Eric or another name beginning with E. Ash, Bishop, Call, David then an E name. What exactly is this cyro thing you keep mentioning?. Also, they absolutely have done the face hugger sensing motion stuff before, how do you think it knows someones near an egg?, do you think the one that impregnated Kane just coincidentally opened the egg?. The gestation period in 3 took so long because it's a queen foetus. It's only the pilot in Alien that's fossilised and no, there wasn't nearly enough time between Prometheus and Alien for it to happen, it takes thousands of years not 30. I don't know where you're getting this 'Bishop knew there was a facehugger' like he was responsible, he only knew cause he accessed the Sulaco logs when he was reactivated.
Unless I misunderstood the scene in Alien 3 (theatrical cut), Ripley gets Bishop working again and he admits to knowing the face hugger was on the ship with them before it crashes. I can see what you mean about the face huggers working on motion too, the eggs opening is a good point. And maybe Ripley having the Queen Alien in her would take longer, but still in Romulus it’s like ten minutes so no way near enough time going by the lore. Oh and I meant to say cryo, like cryogenic freezing haha. -Sean
I count AVP as its own thing
I am SO thankful that you guys touched on Ridley's rewriting of history because I kinda have felt off with how over involved he has been in recent years and I couldn't put my finger on why. He really lost me when talking about alien covenant and claiming that the "protomorph" featured in the movie can regenerate and is basically immortal. To me that felt very Cartman from South Park. Take something over and then keep creating powers so you don't lose the playground fight. And his recent attitudes have been VERY childish. I'm very glad Fede is involved and I hope he continues to make projects in the franchise
oh Joe, you beat me too it. I was just going to say it would have been so much cooler if it was like Sill from species and would have made more sense with the design because both designed by giger
Guess I’m watching this tonight.
Loved the movie!! I didn't even mind the "Get away from her you bitch" because hey, quantum entanglement is a real thing and Andy and Ripley are both just tapping into the same collective consciousnesses in the universe and pulled out that same line to say when kicking alien ass!!
As an Alien junkie for 30 years, I loved the Ian Holm stuff, he looked robotic and 'off', and it made sense that he was the "science officer" model that Wayland Yutani mass produces and puts into service
Older effects "look better" because the video quality was awful. Of course, you can't see shit with a 17-inch 240P tube TV compared to 4K 60FPS ultrawide OLED. Plus, the explosion of the 80s effects films made great effects artists extremely expensive and spread way too thin, which leads to subpar work and the eventual turn to digital. I don't get caught up with my nostalgia, movies I loved as a kid, I hate as an adult. Doesn't take away from my childhood in any way. I can compartmentalize that.
I expected the baby to become a queen while they were in cryosleep, and there was a part when Rook checked the computer on the pods I think they took...maybe suggesting they're not alone... The hybrid stuff does open up more possibilities of evolution after seeing some crossbreed designs online. Kind of a good start and setup for sequels.
For me it was the final nail in the coffin. I really liked the direction and production of the movie, there were lots of great shots. Outside of Andy and the main actress the characters were card board cut outs. The story was okay, but there was just stuff that didn't make sense. The only memorable dialogue was the lines they reused from previous Alien movies. I didn't find it scary or edge of my seat. I enjoyed it while I was watching it but there was nothing there that would make me want to revisit it. What killed the movie for me was bringing the black goo into it. I'm not a fan of the prequels, I prefer to pretend they didn't exist, but this movie makes that harder to do, so I think I'm just going to tap out on Aliens. The first 2 are special, and the third one gave us an ending. This movie just proved they are never going to recapture that magic.
Romulus really disappointed me, especially when people have been praising it. It has the same problem I had with Prometheus and Covenant, and that problem is that everyone is painfully stupid
overall though it might just be because the last movies have been so bad. I enjoyed this cuz it made the aliens scary again. they made the acid blood dangerous again. I didn't need some of this stupid callbacks but I still enjoyed it
That's so funny the first thing you go off on was my number one complaint was everyone I talked to about the movie I was like. I enjoyed it. the effects were pretty good for the most part but there's one face replacement that sticks out so bad lol
The alien seeing you when you're scared thing has been done in an alien movie. The Jaden Smith movie After Earth.
I personally love all of the movies in their own ways. I really will never get the serious hate for Prometheus and covenant since there's so much cool stuff in those films. I return to them infinitely more than 3 or resurrection which I still like but can be a slog to get through at points imo
I didn't really like the Ian Holmes thing. The CGI was pretty bad for that and that weird alien thing at the end was odd but otherwise it wasn't bad.
Hot garbage. The black goop ruined this franchise plain and simple.
Now I want to see a movie about a crew making an Alien sequel but the set is haunted by Dan O'Bannon's ghost.
Alien Romulus is a soft banana
I enjoyed Romulus… I put it in the middle of the Alien franchise
I watched the movie with high expectations and sadly to say it failed to deliver.
Shit packaged as gold
I friggin love you guys
Nope
Ian Holmes pissed me off tremendously. The fucking audacity!
But....as pathetic as that was it served a story purpose. I personally think this is my 3rd favorite. (ALIEN is untouchable so idk why people keep expecting it.)
I literally yelled "You sick fucker you did it!!!" when my "oh my God please have it be a monster baby. I will clap. Please" happened
The only thing that kinda ruins seeing a movie these days is you always have it in the back of your mind "oh everyone is gonna bitch about this part" Overall though, it felt like being in outer space idk I loved ROMULUS in spite of.
I think this movie is fine and fun like Tony from Hack the Movies describes Resident Evil Welcome to Raccoon City. It's not great and also, it's not terrible. And yeah, Ian Holms in this movie was so bizarre when I saw the movie in the theaters because the filmmakers could have use anyone. Hollywood needs to stop doing that. Could have got the androids from Alien Isolation that look like Kevin Bacon's character from Hollow Man (2000) when he already invisible and his co-workers make him a mask to see him lol And Joe when you mentioned the Aliens comics from Dark Horse Comics and short stories and how the filmmakers could of use them as inspiration, I totally agree with you. The same with Predator and Aliens vs Predators franchises as well. I remember reading the first Batman/Aliens comic crossover where Batman fights a Xenomorph crossbred with a crocodile in the Amazon and that was both amazing and original.
I can't wait for your movie to get a wide release
It's really cool that you mix the usual reviews with newer stuff. It keeps the channel fresh. I know you two fine gentlemen are busy people but are you thinking about reviewing "Beetlejuice Beetlejuice"? Have a good one!
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