Vanilla Ice being a side antagonist yet having a 1 shot ability and killing 1/3rd of the cast himself before dying to sunlight with his vampirism kicking in at the last moment.
Kraftwerk is a stand that i think is a contender for “abilities that araki regretted limiting to a minor antagonist as he didn’t realize the potential”
I always assumed that rather than freezing objects in place, Kraftwerk “pins” objects to other objects, such as mista’s hand or the bullets to the truck, or the rocks to the ground; if this interpretation is correct, it means Sale could not launch opponents into space since his stand’s range is not sufficient to reach any celestial body to “pin” somebody to in order to pull them from Earth’s orbit.
@@lofaber5664 Fair enough - unfortunately, he’s not in the story long enough to get a decent view of his abilities. I had to rely on the same two feats over and over again to get an idea of what it could do. Wish Araki would’ve done more with the Stand in the fight.
Kraftwerk has always stood out to me as an underrepresented and unrealized stand, so I'll gladly listen to someone else talk about it, no matter how stupid and obscene the take is
Just lure your enemy to an underpass below a road, affix them to a passing car (well within the stand range) and they hit the wall at the speed of the car. If that doesn't kill them affix them to a car going the opposite direction and repeat until they become a red paste, from ping ponging in every direction.
Commenting and liking for support, I wanna see you do more with stands like this. I saw kraftwork and knew exactly where you were going with this, makes sense to me. But there might be some logic that we’re unaware that localizes its effects.
Honestly, I think Kraftwerk is locked to the user's perspective. Basically, if the user is on the truck, things they freeze lock in place relative to the truck. If he's on the ground, same thing. If he could lock objects in place relative to other objects he isn't standing on, he likely would've froze the bullet fired at him in place relative to the ground and had the bullet impact Mista at the speed of the truck. This could definitely work as an evolution of the stand, but I don't think Kraftwerk as is, is capable of this.
it's great to note that Purple Haze Feedback isn't canon, and nor do I think it would make sense for Kraftwerk be able to freeze someone's hearth as, by my understanding, he has to touch the object to freeze it.
While Purple Haze Feedback isn’t canon there isn’t anything in the manga that directly counters the idea of it being able to do something like that. Remember that Kraftwerk can extend its ability to you even if you’re just touching an object it is affecting/it is touching, like with Mista getting his hand stuck in place by touching the truck Sale was standing on. So if that works then what’s stopping it from striking your chest and having its ability extend to your internal organs?
Very interesting hypothesis, however I believe the caveat is that Sale nullifies an object's kinetic energy (therefore speed) relative to himself (at the moment of activation). That's it. I don't think Sale has ever done otherwise. I may remember incorrectly, but I'm happy to be wrong!
i tried to check for that, but araki’s stand descriptions can be pretty vague. combined with so little screen time of the abilities, it could be either! i wish we had gotten to see more of it
Image he has an assasinatjon mission... he freezes a ceramic tile/ a brick/ a coffee cup and when the target passes by, the target gets obliterated with, seemingly, no connection to the Kraftwerk user
@@kujojotarostandoceanman2641 all sources i’ve found list the ability as removing kinetic energy from an object, you have kinetic energy when in a moving vehicle
"Kraft Work's primary ability is the manipulation of kinetic energy, either taking an object's kinetic energy completely away, freezing it in place, or adding more kinetic energy to a previously frozen object, making it move once more." ripped directly out of JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia, the "bro" who is forgetting something here is you.
So, the enemies wouldn't go flying off, the things he freezes carries the momentum he has at the time of freezing. when he starts walking or something that's not part of his original velocity, thus having things like the bullets going along with him on the truck.
His ability is to freeze an object relative to another object, such as the bullet he was tapping relative to the truck. Unless the stand has infinite range and can freeze you relative to the sun nobody's going into space with him
I didn’t even think of that but yea if implemented correctly it seems like it’d be pretty hard to beat, also I started feeling motion sick once I thought about how fast we are all spinning in radial motion it’s like being on a big train that never stops it makes me so sick 😭
then there's the fact he doesn't lock you u in place he locks you to something else he was locking everything to the truck so he can make weapons that are disjointed
Ok let me try to somehow explain your theory physically: English is not my first language, so idk if this is the correct english term. So inertial reference systems are basicallyclosed systems which are not effected by outside forces. For example there is the inertial system earth. The truck could also be seen as one (like assuming it would not speed up and assuming it does not drive around curves. I assume the things he freezes are frozen relativly to the same inertial system he is in. So when he is in the truck they are also frozen relativly to the truck. Now you say he could also freeze objekts in other inertial systems, which would make sense as he is also in the intertial system earth as the inertial system of the truck is also in the system of the earth. Now we can not say wether this works or not as we never learn how much controll he has oveer this power. But if you are correct then being frozen in the system of the earth would not send you flying as you would still be frozen relativly to the earth. But when talking about the solar system then yes you probably would get yeeted away. Now imma be honest I dont think he has the power to freeze it compared to the solar system. But we will never know.
And now make a video about the TRUE POTENTIAL of Ze Hando! I swear, that stand has some of the most potential, and all they ever use it for is erasing air.
I WAS SAYING THIS FOR YEARS but for a different reason tho. I was thinking, if it can stop motion COMPLETELY at a controlled and atomic level, then it is technically capable of energy control and its base ability can create ABSOLUTE ZERO ! energy control why ? because all forms of energy at its core is just motion, either of electrons, particles for heat, photons whatever. and the fact it can also store kinetic energy in a motionless object demonstrates further that kraftwerk's true ability is COMPLETE ENERGY MANIPULATION TO AN ILLOGICAL DEGREE
@ravsucks dawg i didn't think of the use you talked abt here either lol. i guess it just goes to show how completely absurd and total of a control over energy this guy has. creates absolute zero and manages to input energy inside of it without the absence of energy spreading. complete control and all that while he probably doesn't realize like half these concepts. bruh how did this guy even get a stand 🤦♂️ most special thing abt him is how normal he is in a show abt bizarreness
I disagree, metaphysically speaking the earth is at the centre of the universe (basically since we’re the only life in the universe). Edit: wait… if Karl’s is technically alive then are we truly the only life in the universe? I suppose the stand only works relative to what is the largest object closest to it, whether that be the Galaxy or the moon, the user cannot decide how his own powers work.
It seems pretty clear to me that kraftwerk freezes objects in relative space, and imo it does not appear that Sale is capable of freezing objects from any reference point other than his.
Potential measures how much the stand itself can literally develop, as in obtain and improve upon existing abilites, not how much potential those abilities themselves have when applied. It is completely pointless for any kind of scaling For instance Tusk Act 4 also has an E in potential, despite having one of the most busted and versatile abilities in the verse. All the previous Act's had A in potential, since they still had room to grow. Same went for D4C, which dropped from A to C after obtaining Love Train, and Star Platinum, which starts at A in early part 3 and drops to C in part 6
this is not how the stand works. it locks something in place relative to the position of something else (ussualy himself) there is nothing he could locksomeone to that would maken them go flying of the earth because their is nothing flying of the earth
Also as demonstrated by the bullets, the frame of refference for the stopping of kinetic energy isn’t space right? He can only use that ability with a frame of refference that he has experienced
when I'm in a being OP competition and my opponent is a JoJo minor villain:
@@লবণহানটারman REAL there’s a ton of other examples if you really take a look at them
Ciocciolata
Superfly
Metallica
Vanilla Ice being a side antagonist yet having a 1 shot ability and killing 1/3rd of the cast himself before dying to sunlight with his vampirism kicking in at the last moment.
Kraftwerk is a stand that i think is a contender for “abilities that araki regretted limiting to a minor antagonist as he didn’t realize the potential”
I always assumed that rather than freezing objects in place, Kraftwerk “pins” objects to other objects, such as mista’s hand or the bullets to the truck, or the rocks to the ground; if this interpretation is correct, it means Sale could not launch opponents into space since his stand’s range is not sufficient to reach any celestial body to “pin” somebody to in order to pull them from Earth’s orbit.
@@lofaber5664 Fair enough - unfortunately, he’s not in the story long enough to get a decent view of his abilities. I had to rely on the same two feats over and over again to get an idea of what it could do. Wish Araki would’ve done more with the Stand in the fight.
Kraftwerk has always stood out to me as an underrepresented and unrealized stand, so I'll gladly listen to someone else talk about it, no matter how stupid and obscene the take is
@@quadromplis well, i hope you enjoyed it, even if my take was stupid and obscene
@@ravsucks I'd love to see more from you; hope you keep making videos like this!
@@quadromplis thank you! a lot of people asked about other stands so i might just look into those!
Please do more of these about underrated stands
Just lure your enemy to an underpass below a road, affix them to a passing car (well within the stand range) and they hit the wall at the speed of the car. If that doesn't kill them affix them to a car going the opposite direction and repeat until they become a red paste, from ping ponging in every direction.
i like the way you think
This is Satan's way of thinking bro
kraftwerk suddenly freezing time on it's place (it's the same type of stand)
Commenting and liking for support, I wanna see you do more with stands like this.
I saw kraftwork and knew exactly where you were going with this, makes sense to me. But there might be some logic that we’re unaware that localizes its effects.
before even watching i read the title and said to myself "FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE NOTICES!"
Honestly, I think Kraftwerk is locked to the user's perspective. Basically, if the user is on the truck, things they freeze lock in place relative to the truck. If he's on the ground, same thing.
If he could lock objects in place relative to other objects he isn't standing on, he likely would've froze the bullet fired at him in place relative to the ground and had the bullet impact Mista at the speed of the truck.
This could definitely work as an evolution of the stand, but I don't think Kraftwerk as is, is capable of this.
IM SO GLAD SOMONE MADE A VIDEO ABOUT THIS. this has been my favourite stand for like 3 years now
it's great to note that Purple Haze Feedback isn't canon, and nor do I think it would make sense for Kraftwerk be able to freeze someone's hearth as, by my understanding, he has to touch the object to freeze it.
While Purple Haze Feedback isn’t canon there isn’t anything in the manga that directly counters the idea of it being able to do something like that. Remember that Kraftwerk can extend its ability to you even if you’re just touching an object it is affecting/it is touching, like with Mista getting his hand stuck in place by touching the truck Sale was standing on. So if that works then what’s stopping it from striking your chest and having its ability extend to your internal organs?
Very interesting hypothesis, however I believe the caveat is that Sale nullifies an object's kinetic energy (therefore speed) relative to himself (at the moment of activation). That's it. I don't think Sale has ever done otherwise. I may remember incorrectly, but I'm happy to be wrong!
i tried to check for that, but araki’s stand descriptions can be pretty vague. combined with so little screen time of the abilities, it could be either! i wish we had gotten to see more of it
i think things get anchored to what sale is standing on like how pucci and c-moon work
2:20 doesnt this debunk the you freeze you get launched into space because the earth is moving to fast for kraftwerk to work???
been my fav stand for a long time, so many creative uses
Image he has an assasinatjon mission... he freezes a ceramic tile/ a brick/ a coffee cup and when the target passes by, the target gets obliterated with, seemingly, no connection to the Kraftwerk user
@@Tservator EXACTLY
Bro really forgot that the entire fight happens on a MOVING truck, Kraftworks ability is to stop something relative to another thing
@@kujojotarostandoceanman2641 all sources i’ve found list the ability as removing kinetic energy from an object, you have kinetic energy when in a moving vehicle
"Kraft Work's primary ability is the manipulation of kinetic energy, either taking an object's kinetic energy completely away, freezing it in place, or adding more kinetic energy to a previously frozen object, making it move once more."
ripped directly out of JoJo's Bizarre Encyclopedia, the "bro" who is forgetting something here is you.
Yeah the object gets locked relative to other object
So, the enemies wouldn't go flying off, the things he freezes carries the momentum he has at the time of freezing. when he starts walking or something that's not part of his original velocity, thus having things like the bullets going along with him on the truck.
Been looking for this comment. Thank you
I don't think so. He "freezes" the objects relative to other objects. For example: Mista's hand stuck to the truck, or bullet to his skull
@VaclavRytina also a good theory, the thing with that is that he stops someone's heart. what did he stick it to? the insides of the person?
@S_N_O_W_U_Y that comes from Phf, non Canon novel
@VaclavRytina still goes by the same principals, you can put this into any scenario.
Now I’m waiting for the cheap trick video
I didn't know i needed this video until i watched it. Imma sub and leave a like. Thanks bro!!
appreciate it!
His ability is to freeze an object relative to another object, such as the bullet he was tapping relative to the truck. Unless the stand has infinite range and can freeze you relative to the sun nobody's going into space with him
Banger video my guy!
thank you!!
The world of JoJo is category of itself
They can turn you into snails, no they can’t
They can convince you so completely that you are turning into a snail that you actually do. That's pretty much the same thing.
I didn’t even think of that but yea if implemented correctly it seems like it’d be pretty hard to beat, also I started feeling motion sick once I thought about how fast we are all spinning in radial motion it’s like being on a big train that never stops it makes me so sick 😭
My favourite stand
Kraftwerk is such an amazing band, one of my favorite music references in JoJo
then there's the fact he doesn't lock you u in place he locks you to something else he was locking everything to the truck so he can make weapons that are disjointed
Ok let me try to somehow explain your theory physically:
English is not my first language, so idk if this is the correct english term. So inertial reference systems are basicallyclosed systems which are not effected by outside forces. For example there is the inertial system earth. The truck could also be seen as one (like assuming it would not speed up and assuming it does not drive around curves. I assume the things he freezes are frozen relativly to the same inertial system he is in. So when he is in the truck they are also frozen relativly to the truck.
Now you say he could also freeze objekts in other inertial systems, which would make sense as he is also in the intertial system earth as the inertial system of the truck is also in the system of the earth.
Now we can not say wether this works or not as we never learn how much controll he has oveer this power. But if you are correct then being frozen in the system of the earth would not send you flying as you would still be frozen relativly to the earth. But when talking about the solar system then yes you probably would get yeeted away. Now imma be honest I dont think he has the power to freeze it compared to the solar system. But we will never know.
I'm pretty sure the bullet inside his head was no longer affected by his ability, hence why it could be pushed by another bullet
ohhhh interesting, that does make sense
but it doesnt come out of his skull
@@chum9017 what? Like not falling out? I think it was lodged in the skull
@VaclavRytina if it was no longer affected by kraftwerk then the force of another bullet would penetrate the rest of his skull
glory days is kraftwerk in part 9
i just finished jojolion, i’m almost there
@ hope this gets you hyped
I'm subbing for that
if Purple Haze Feedback ever becomes canon I hope the kraftworks guy survives
would be funny
This has always been my opinion. Reason why it’s my favorite stand.
And now make a video about the TRUE POTENTIAL of Ze Hando!
I swear, that stand has some of the most potential, and all they ever use it for is erasing air.
I WAS SAYING THIS FOR YEARS but for a different reason tho. I was thinking, if it can stop motion COMPLETELY at a controlled and atomic level, then it is technically capable of energy control and its base ability can create ABSOLUTE ZERO ! energy control why ? because all forms of energy at its core is just motion, either of electrons, particles for heat, photons whatever. and the fact it can also store kinetic energy in a motionless object demonstrates further that kraftwerk's true ability is COMPLETE ENERGY MANIPULATION TO AN ILLOGICAL DEGREE
@@exarquazowexa7247 this is actually really cool i wish i was smart enough to think of this
@ravsucks dawg i didn't think of the use you talked abt here either lol. i guess it just goes to show how completely absurd and total of a control over energy this guy has. creates absolute zero and manages to input energy inside of it without the absence of energy spreading. complete control and all that while he probably doesn't realize like half these concepts. bruh how did this guy even get a stand 🤦♂️ most special thing abt him is how normal he is in a show abt bizarreness
I disagree, metaphysically speaking the earth is at the centre of the universe (basically since we’re the only life in the universe).
Edit: wait… if Karl’s is technically alive then are we truly the only life in the universe? I suppose the stand only works relative to what is the largest object closest to it, whether that be the Galaxy or the moon, the user cannot decide how his own powers work.
I also think since stands are magic you can’t really do a scientific explanation of how they work, and magic is relative, science is objective.
It seems pretty clear to me that kraftwerk freezes objects in relative space, and imo it does not appear that Sale is capable of freezing objects from any reference point other than his.
Kraftwork is probably working on the terrestrial referential tho
you made kraftwerk go beyond
He already uses frames of reference, if he understood relativity he could be planetary
Can you make a video about Underworld? it has my favorite ability in JoJo, and I don’t see or hear anyone talking about it’s imo crazy potential
I thought that thumbnail was something WAY different
nil this video was so entertaining I was even watching it while eating McDonalds
It has an E in Range and Potential -_-
Jesus Christ
Potential measures how much the stand itself can literally develop, as in obtain and improve upon existing abilites, not how much potential those abilities themselves have when applied. It is completely pointless for any kind of scaling
For instance Tusk Act 4 also has an E in potential, despite having one of the most busted and versatile abilities in the verse. All the previous Act's had A in potential, since they still had room to grow. Same went for D4C, which dropped from A to C after obtaining Love Train, and Star Platinum, which starts at A in early part 3 and drops to C in part 6
Brain dead comment
kraftwerk requiem when
if he punched his static bullets punchy stand they could obliterate lots
@ravsucks Can you do an analysis of Dandandan powers? Or something
Lemme borrow this.
Anyone else get scared by the thumbnail
this is not how the stand works. it locks something in place relative to the position of something else (ussualy himself) there is nothing he could locksomeone to that would maken them go flying of the earth because their is nothing flying of the earth
Also White Kraftwerk. Is cooler than Green Kraftwerk
jesus! kraftwerk requiem?!
PHazefeedback ain’t canon thoooo☝🤓
Also as demonstrated by the bullets, the frame of refference for the stopping of kinetic energy isn’t space right? He can only use that ability with a frame of refference that he has experienced