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This has been EXACTLY my experience. I begged for two years for a real wedding and I finally felt so convicted by the holy spirit that I told him he needed to move out until we had a ceremony. Turns out he is no longer interested in any kid of relationship. Go figure.
Im sorry this happened to you, but it sounds like you dropped dead weight. May God now bring you the living and devoted spouse you deserve. 💕
If you had sex with him, you were married
@@uhohstinky5850 False, that was fornication. Stop spreading this DEMONIC lie.
@@Hello-eg8fg thank you so much for the encouragement
Jerk! Good for you for listening to the Holy Spirit!
I was spiritually married… when it inevitably went belly up, I didn’t get “spiritually divorced,” I just got left.
Wow
I’m so sorry😢. I’m praying for healing for your heart. ❤️🩹
Look at this as a blessing. I remember dating a man who talked about spiritual marriage when I talked about a REAL marriage. I then researched how much work it is to set-up documents so I'd be covered. It is so much to think about and do when I can just be married. Automatically, I am entitled to everything because we are married. He legally has to cover me and, of course, spiritually under God.
That s right off concubinage(fornication),the church that supports such insanity is more likely a cult.Such thing should be called out.
@imo.124 isnt it nice to be entitled to everything in this non biblical satanic world and system.
So Christian of you. Take everything that belongs to the man.
Btw spiritual marriage is Actual marriage. You are not suppose to sign Papers get the beast government involved, do not make oaths to babyon, thatsinthe bible, but you love this system, you want to take everything, so do your thing.
She needs people willing to support her on her next step
Cam, may God continue to bless you for loving your wife like Christ loves the church. You’ve created an environment for her to thrive and be all that God has called her to be. She’s brought great favor into your life and you’re bringing much honor to hers. Lord, continue to strengthen this beautiful couple as they continue to walk with you and bring glory to Your name. Protect them from the wicked schemes of the evil one and bind them closer together each day. Protect their children Lord and let them grow up to be great mouthpieces for Your kingdom. Shower them with your grace and mercy daily, Lord. May You continue to grow them in faith as You shower then with Your blessings. In Jesus name I pray, Amen!
Amen 🙏🏾 ❤
Amen! What a wonderful prayer.
Amen and Amen
Amen 🙏🏼
Amen
Excellent advice! I have not experienced this because when I started dating my now husband(legal) I told him on the first date I wanted normal legal marriage and it was non-negotiable and intimacy was off the table until we were married. We were engaged and legally married within a year of our first date. As women if we raise the bar, men will meet it. If we let them get away with "Spiritual Marriage" thats what they will do.
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I am devastated for this woman. She was lied to. I wonder if her family who came to the initial ceremony knew that it wasn't legitimate and still let her go through with it. Where were her mentors or church leaders? Who officiated this sham of a ceremony? I can't even begin to see how this happened
My questions exactly! The whole thing is so sad.
She needs to do a background check on him.
Word! This dude is absolutely hiding something! Didn't sign his own sons birth certificate??
No she needs to just leave him because why waste your time investigating on a red flag to get hurt even more.
Agreed!
Background check for sure. Should've done it before getting too serious.
Asap! I don't trust he is even who he says he is.
I like that Bindi and Cam stated that ancient biblical marriage was *LEGAL marriage.* That is because ancient Israel was a theocracy _[a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.]_ We are not under a devine government but are under a secular government.
How can you claim a _spiritual marriage_ when God does not rule your nation, man does? And note God only ruled over the nation of Israel for a set timeframe in history till Israel decided to delcare their own earthly king. Are the _spiritually married_ declaring God is their ruler and they no longer submit to their local government?
Christians submit their lives to the government in all other aspects of life; finances, birth, death, property, vocation, business, etc. The only reason people desire to not submit marriage is because they want to deny their spouse the benefits and rights a spouse is owned in finances, property, healthcare, death, provision, and protection.
Weather in the current secular government or the biblical theocratic government, marriages were and are submitted under a *governing community* and the men and women made vows and the *community* made sure they held their vows and if violated each party was given just due; or in the case of death the remaining spouse got proper property and healthcare rights.
Also the community made sure the children from the marriage were given proper rights. That is why there were legitimate children born in the union of a marriage and illegitimate born of fornication or adultery. The illegitimate children were not given property rights. This is all under ancient biblical theocracy.
We no longer live in theocracy so as stated in Romans follow the government you are under authority of. *There is nothing sinful about a marriage license.*
2nd paragraph, last sentence...
If they did that they would still be living in sin. If the law of the land says you need a marriage certificate then that's what you need, God wants us to put him first but he also wants us to follow the laws of the land. If we don't follow the laws of the land we will therefore also be sinning against God. However if the laws of the land are indirect conflict with his commandments then yes we are to obey him above the law. Like abortion is legal in many places according to the laws of the land but under the commandments it's a sin. I really don't like how they get down so hard on the guy when she's a liar to herself and to everyone else also. She's complicit in this relationship and she's very confused as to what's traditional, biblical or "old school". From everything that she's been saying it doesn't even seem like they go to church bc I don't know how she thinks that her boyfriend is old school. If she was going to a church that was traditional, who was biblical in their practice and what they're preaching. It's almost like he opened the door for her one time and since that moment she thinks he's shiverous even though he hasn't opened the door for her since. You get what I'm saying? How do we even know what she's saying is the truth because she very easily lied to the couple on the screen. "My husband". She's not married and she even had a problem with him calling her his wife but she's still lying to herself. I think she knows the truth and I think she wanted to hear the truth because I don't think she would have went into everything but "my boyfriend wants to get married spiritually but not legally" but this couple coddled her behaviors instead, and really went in hard on him. When he's not the soul who needs the help right now. She's the one screaming out for help but she's gotten so complacent I think subconsciously she wants this couple in a way "shame" her. I think she thinks that the conviction she already feels isn't strong enough but it is the problem is is she still lying to herself but subconsciously she knows the truth.. You get what I'm saying? She's trying to pull the wool over this couple's eyes and she's been doing a pretty good job, but that's not what she's hoping deep down. I think deep down she wants someone to kick her in her butt.
@mandielou Wow, you are so right. The conviction she already feels is not strong enough for her to remove herself from this situation. She is seeking outside voices to help her realize the full extent of her situation. Lets pray this couple repent and have real falling on their knees before the Lord; especially the man, he needs a change of heart. The woman's heart knows what is righteous and was isn't, she is just having a hard time following through. This is work only the Holy Spirit can transform.
There's no law in this land requiring a marriage license to have a biblical relationship.
It's not illegal. It's Alegal.
There are other LEGAL ways to get married and have a legally recognized marriage by our government without getting a government marriage license. It’s not legally required to have a marriage licensed issued by the government to be married. Our government has structured marriages to fail and over 80% of marriages today end in divorce and are initiated by women. There used be a such thing as separation from church and state. “Be not confirmed to the pattern of this world.”
It’s pretty annoying how so many people blame the failure of marriage on the government. Marriages fail and divorces are filed because PEOPLE, both men and women, don’t take marriage seriously and as a life long covenant and commitment. They aren’t getting married with God and Jesus Christ at the center, and anything that isn’t built on the rock and firm foundation of Christ, it DESTINED to fail and collapse. So please stop blaming government.
A spiritual marriage means he wants to be able to walk away without having to give up resources so he can use them to buy an audience with the next woman easier...
American women are by far the majority of those walking away from their marraiges and taking resources to their next relationship.
@@xbluesaintx Sounds like that’s only in terms of legal marriages. I wonder who initiates spiritual divorces? 🤔
@ab-gail The destruction of american families in divorce court is the immediate crisis at hand.
Sure, one could predict abuses in Alegal marriages, but the real scandel is that the system that is supposed to be serving marriages is contributing to their destruction.
It's naive to think that after several decades of prejudice and abuse from no fault divorce courts that men are going to continue lining up for it.
Many are simply trying to conserve biblical marriage while insulating themselves from the high likelihood of disaster.
Or….it means he doesn’t want to give up resources that she didn’t help him acquire if she leaves for frivolous reasons considering the fact that 80% of divorce is initiated by women. Govt marriage rewards women for breaking up the family unit and punishes the men. There used to be a thing called separation of church and state
@@thetruthis5981 A man who see's resources as his and hers is not fit for marriages. He fundamentally does not get it, If whats yours is not hers and he is concerned with her leaving him, he already knows she would have good reason to do so...
Great response, wise words. One thing I’d add/change: I wouldn’t even advise her to give him the option of marrying her, I’d just advise her to leave. He’s already proven himself to be dishonest and unreliable. Why should she marry that? Get out while you’re not actually bound by marriage.
Hi Bindi! I have been loving your content recently! So relevant and amazing. Please do more letters and hot topics. Your anointed voice is much needed!
Danggit man! Both of y’all together are a force! I didn’t consider some of the stuff y’all mentioned. I never thought about who would ordain or approve the divorce if it wasn’t legal. Good conversation. We need more videos with both of your perspectives.
What do the scriptures state about it?
@@xbluesaintxIf you’re intimate with someone you are not married to, then you are fornicating, which is a sin. If you are married, you are in a lifelong covenant that is binding and can only be legally ended by death or by an adulterous relationship. And even then, the adulterer is not the one who should be filing for divorce; the covenant partner who has NOT broken the covenant chooses reconciliation or divorce. Biblically speaking.
Spiritual marriage sounds good at first but honestly it’s just moving in while dating in practice.
The terms Spiritual Marriage and Legal Marriage are often just a way of distinguishing two different concepts.
The reason Spiritual Marriage sounds illegitimate is because the current State Legal Marriage is a counterfeit but has taken the prime spot in our minds since childhood.
Is fornication and concubinage.Period.
@@xbluesaintx marriage is a religious institution....and if we as a society are less and less religious marriage should dissapear...is not illegal to live with a woman and have sex with them, show me the law that says is illegal, if is not illegal people are not doing anything illegal if they dont get married, so if a couple dont want to involve the goverment in their relationship they should only married in the Church...why do christians need permission from the goverment to have sex?
Thank youuuuu!!!! I needed this clarification because this happened to my sister.
She got "married" but no legal paperwork got done, and everything felt weird.
I didn't know if the marriage counted or not (unfortunately, that relationship did not succeed).
But, now it's clear they did not because even in biblical times there was legalities.
This makes so much SENSE!!!! THANK YOU!!!!
As s man of God listening these are my thoughts, this is a refreshing video, I really appreciate the brother as a leader speaking the truth and his wife being able to point out the stuff not addressed, women don’t want to hear.
Allot of women need to hear this and thank you, you two for speaking on this matter, the delusion to have a fantasy isn’t worth deceiving yourself, it makes me sad most of these ladies in America are willing to go that far. I pray ladies don’t be like these situations they’re breaking down to avoid. Thank you Cameron & Bindi. 🙏
My wife and I are very grateful for this channel. We've been watching and discussing together the backlogs of videos. It has really helped our marriage.
I cannot tell you how many comments I've seen online of men convincing women sex is biblical marriage. 🤦🏾♀️ I just think _then what is fornication and sexually immoral behavior?_
The enemy is cunning
Only foolish women fall for this nonsense.😂
Ah yes, the 2 Timothy 3:6 women. They wouldn't be convinced if they applied 2 Timothy 2:15 to themselves. That's the only way to escape deception.
Right, we have to be legally bound to be married. I was fornicating with my now husband for years and the Lord did NOT view us as husband and wife. He urged me to move away from Him to abstain from sex because we were not married. Y’all please get married, LEGALLY. I need to find the scripture but it does speak of obeying the laws of land. They still had weddings in biblical times as well, so don’t deceive yourselves into believing you’re not fornicating because YOU say y’all are “husband and wife.”
Just as I thought would happen, there are men in the comments leaving this very statement saying _"if you had sex you are married"_
What wickedness! Stay viligant ladies, there are many sons of satan prowling about.
Y'all have so much wisdom and can see through so much garbage. I will add that my bro in law gave my sis a promise ring and married her as fast as he could after... within a year, I think. But again, promise ring or not, the thing is that HE MARRIED HER QUICKLY AND HELD TO HIS WORD.
Yeah my husband couldn’t afford a decent engagement or what he felt was decent enough so we did the promise rings for a lil bit until we were able to buy wedding rings. But the point is we got married.
May we hold strong convictions and gentle opinions.
Amen sister
AMEN. I only got 1/3 of the way before I decided to not finish the video. :/
This talk was so enlightening and honest. I truly hope the woman who wrote in and all others will leave their fake marriages and wait for a real marriage to materialize. May God give her and all others in her shoes, the courage to stand for God’s legitimate way of marriage.
Would be the coolest thing if she responds with an update, hope the Lord guides her out of this situation
I had a promise ring but it preceded a real engagement ring a couple months later followed by a wedding band 😅
Phone bill and groceries... dude I'm assuming their phones are not under the same plan. Another red flag
Bindi, you have a gift for just seeing through the crap and cutting to the chase lol. 😌
“May God grant us the wisdom and the patience to resist from making the wrong assumptions about situations we encounter. Amen”
I loved the husbands perspective when he explained that when men take out women to dates its them showing the woman he can provide and provide in a lavish way and its a standard to be expected continuing into marriage. not always lavish but as provider! that was good
I agree with what Joyce and Cam said... my guess is that this woman comes from a broken, dysfunctional family and this guy sucked her in because she has no one else to rely on. I honestly feel very bad for her.
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I agree too and agree with your comment @lynnettehorning915 but I wonder how dysfunctional his background and past might had been. I think it’s easy to point fingers and pick sides but at the end of the day we don’t know what he is struggling with.
"I'm movin' out, and I'm takin' ALL the groceries!!" 😂😂😂 The dynamic between you two is so cute ❤
I apologize for commenting so many times, but I want to CRY from gratitude for having clarity on HOW to get married.
I had so much confusion and everything is now so clear!!!
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!!!
"You have to step into the role FIRST and then you become it"
That was a woooord ! Yall had me yelling preaaach in my house 😂😅.
Man that was deep stuff right there. Really enjoy these podcasts
That is scandalous. Wife is a legal status. Don’t fall for this okie doke.
She already knows something is not right, that’s why she wrote to you.
A biblical husband provides for his family and covers them spiritually. The man in this letter is failing on both accounts. The provision is absent because she doesn't even have medical coverage and he's ok with it. So if, God forbid, this man passes away unexpectedly, she's entitled to NOTHING. Which means that he's not concerned about providing for her in his presence or his absence. Life insurance, pension - these companies don't care about spiritual ceremonies. If you don't have a LEGAL marriage certificate, they can't do anything for you.
Although health insurance is a very reassuring way to provide for medical needs, it is not a biblical requirement for a husband.
Many of the other rights of legal marriage can be arranged for by other means.
@@xbluesaintxspot on. Plus biblically if the man died and the woman was a widow, the tithe was used to provide for her and her children. In the New Testament, the church helped the widows and the fatherless. These women say anything that makes them feel good with no scriptures to support their beliefs
@@thetruthis5981For some, the emotional response is truth.
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
1 Timothy 5:8 KJV
@@LaurenDenise men should provide for their families. Not every man will be able to provide AFTER their death but there are other means of legally and effectively doing this without government involvement.
This hits home for me. ..
Even us in Africa we have two types, a customary marriage, which is the way our ancestors got married before colonisation and the civil marriage which involves the signing of the license.
Our States recognise both types as binding marriages.
In the cultural marriage a man must fulfil the customs of the culture in order to be recognised as a husband.
Most people in rural areas are the ones who get married that way. But for those in the city we do both.
We first start with the traditional one then proceed to get the civil marriage license.
Africa is a continent. Which country might you be talking about, specifically?
So there is an elderly couple in church that had the pastor marry them, but never mailed the paperwork in making it binding. People say they're married, but we are to live by the law of the land. Makes no sense.
I love how her accent gets stronger and her grammar changes when she gets all worked up - my mom does that too lol 😅🙃
I was waiting patiently for this video, will be back again later to watch as working, watched a little already 🫢love both of your inputs ✨
If submitting to an “ungodly” government is a sin and following the law of the land then y’all need to find an island. Welcome to a fallen world! A marriage license is not a sin and our government is upholding a God ordained union. So “yay!” Sounds like everyone who doesn’t like submitting to the laws in our land, you have problems with God given authority and need to study that out under the discipleship of a Bible believing pastor. Christianity is not a choose your own adventure and see what God shows you. It must line up to the word of God.
Exactly. Not like God isn't aware of the sinful things passed as law against His Word but your job is to do the things that agree with His word and be obedient.
What you said is true. We are even reminded of these in the Bible and that is why it is important to read the Word in its entirety and not to choose and ascribe to those scriptures that speak to our itchy ears. For now I will make reference to these two scriptures:
In 1st Peter 2:13-17 (BSB Version) tells us this: Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake every human institution. whether to the king as the supreme authority, or to governors as those sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to praise those who do right. For it is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorance of foolish men. Live in freedom, but do not use your freedom as a cover up for evil; live as servants of God. Treat everyone with high regard: Love the brotherhood of believers, fear God, honor the king.
In Romans 13: 1-7 (BSB Version) tells us this:Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God. Consequently, whoever resists authority is opposing what God has set in place, and those who do so will bring judgement on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Do you want to be unafraid of the one in authority? Then do what is right, and you will have his approval. For h is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not carry the sword in vain. He is God's servant, an agent of retribution to the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to authority, not only to avoid punishment, but also as a matter of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes. For the authorities are God's servant, who devote themselves to their work. Pay everyone what you owe him: taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.
Amen 🙏
Romans 13:1-6,not submiting to authority is literally oposing God.With only the exemption of evil laws that go against God s law(as example,a law that legalize same sex marriage).
Spiritual marriage is a con word to get women into fornicating and living in concubinage.Is cultish to say the least.
I am part of the Syriac Orthodox Church of Antioch which is the first church that has ever existed and would consider it very traditional and conservative. And even in our church you are not allowed to get married when you’re not legally married beforehand.
The Catholic Church in Germany allows it so older adults can marry each other without loosing their dead spouse’s retirement.
marriage is a religious institution....and if we as a society are less and less religious marriage should dissapear...is not illegal to live with a woman and have sex with them, if is not illegal people are not doing anything illegal if they dont get married, so if a couple dont want to involve the goverment in their relationship they should only married in the Church...why do christians need permission from the goverment to have sex?
Once he “changed his mind” that was proof to her that their CORE VALUES do NOT align! THAT is a deal breaker in EVERY case, because there will always be resentment in the acquiescing party. Period. Move on!
The man said what the woman wanted to hear to seduce her into accepting a '"situation-ship." She was deceived and has so invested herself that she wants to believe the lies. Deep down, I think she reached out to you because she knows it's time she has to change. God bless us all!
I loved hearing from your husband.
These discussions between you two are so very helpful. You have shared valuable truth in this video that will change the lives of many women if followed. The only thing that I disagree with is that you said it is not her fault. We know God's law and that it protects us. We have no excuses to fall for a man's lies. God has given us everything we need in the bible, His word, to avoid these pitfalls.
I'm not sure if you have a video already on your channel, BUT I NEED A VIDEO OF HOW YALL MET!!!
Yes! I second this!
I think there either very young and like "screw the government" or he's married
Edit :that was guessing before watching anything
-Definitely run.
Its hard to admit when you make a mistake but run
Government makes sure the wife and children are cared for or at least that’s what it is supposed to do. The lady writing in is a prostitute because money for sex is a business. She gets bills paid and provides a “service” Sorry it’s harsh!
I absolutely love your videos! They are filled with biblical wisdom ❤ lol can’t believe I have to wait till Friday 😫😫😫
Me too!!😊😊
That's a joke! RUN SIS
The more I listen to these videos, the more aware I am of schemes.
Guard UP!
For those who are still confused about why legal marriage is required by God. So happy I could find this scripture to confirm what's said in the video. I belive the referred to this. It's just so clear...
Romans 13:1-2 says: "Obey the government, for God is the One who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. So those who refuse to obey the law of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow."
Then you should also take the vaccine and mircochip, aka mark of the beast. Obey the government, lose your soul.
Obey babylon.
Do not make an entire doctrine out of 1 verse. Search out the scriptures for context.
What does the bible say.
" in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses.....
I wonder if you would have obeyed nazi german govt, if they told you have you seen and jews, do they live in your neighborhood, you must obey the laws and , The Nazis, hitler who God put in power
marriage is a religious institution....and if we as a society are less and less religious marriage should dissapear...is not illegal to live with a woman and have sex with them, show me the law that says is illegal, if is not illegal people are not doing anything illegal if they dont get married, so if a couple dont want to involve the goverment in their relationship they should only married in the Church...why do christians need permission from the goverment to have sex?
I feel you guys did a good read on this, and gave sound practical advice. But what I thought was missing was the spiritual guidance. She was spiritually manipulated (which could happen to any/many of us). But she would be less likely to fall for these kinds of tricks, if she was more stable in her foundation/relationship with God. She needs to get to know God through his word more, and seek to be filled with the holy spirit, so she can hear God’s voice. Had she prayed and fasted, and knew God’s word and his voice before entering this situationship, she may have be able to avoid the deception altogether. We all must be prayerful about entering into relationships (not limited to marriage) so that we are inviting God to guide us in them. He is the ultimate warning giver lbs
I've noticed ppl who've had bad experiences w marriage or saw bad situations with their family are resistant to getting married. Or, they've bought into modern, liberal mindset that marriage is slavery and not trendy in their current social group. Fear of being alone is a big reason why ppl, esp women, don't leave. Not to mention soul ties, time invested, financial stability. Even within dysfunction, there are comforts/familiarity. In order to separate, she'd have to work again. She has to be resolved in her decision so that he can't talk her out of it. Or, stay and let things remain the same. Actions will speak louder than words. Also, are they both Christians? Do they go to church, pray, read the bible, have Christian friends? She mentioned her relationship w God, but it doesn't sound like her partner has one, or at the very least, he's not allowing himself to be led by the Holy Spirit.
marriage is a religious institution....and if we as a society are less and less religious marriage should dissapear...is not illegal to live with a woman and have sex with them, if is not illegal people are not doing anything illegal if they dont get married
Why are so many women easily deceived into accepting mediocre relationships. A spiritual marriage is like here ill give you this fake commitment to shut you up about my lack of commitment.
Spiritual marriage 😂😂😂
Absolute trash
That's how I felt too.
Its 'free fornication' under the guise of Christianity.
Cant wait to see this
Good morning to you
I enjoyed today's video
So glad that you shared 💖😊
You are amazing and I love your channel
26:18-27:30 Well said.
Please keep up the good work, brilliant insight. I hope you consider speaking in high schools and colleges. Consider writing a handbook.
Thank you for sharing this and your thoughts. I feel badly for the lady that wrote this letter. She wrote this letter because she knew something wasn’t right. She is still trying to protect her “spiritual husband” by saying he’s a real good man. No, he is not. A good man would want you as his real wife and not a lie. I hope she finds some support in her church, counselor, friends, to stand up for herself and respect herself and do what she needs to do to live truthfully.
She should be really smart in her next moves if he’s a deceiver. There’s so many red flags, the worst not signing his kid’s birth certificate! She never mentions anything about his background, if he has parents, siblings, if she knows where he grew up, his job, friendships, etc. That tends to paint a picture about him, not full but if he does have a second wife, a criminal past or something big he’s hiding, then just by his background you can learn a lot. Also, if we give him the benefit of the doubt and consider he’s been sucked into the red pill movement and the “danger” of signing a marriage contract, then your problems are less but definitely need to be addressed for you and your kids protection.
This was really good!
Just wondering if they both went for couselling before thinking they were married. I'm a Christian and in our church, no one gets married without pre-marital counselling and wether they get married in church or court, the marriage must be recorded legally. How can this man be one with her, if he doesn't want to give her his name? The two become one in marriage and if they are still two, they are not married. If I was in the same situation, I would get out. You will know the truth, and it will set you free.
So good 🥰🎉
We are both so practical beautiful husband and wife ❤❤❤I pray that God will bless you in everything you do ❤❤❤
Forget about the government. First rule in life: "If it's not written, it's not done!".
"Spiritual marriage" in an African religious setting means something entirely different and trust, you don't want to know😂😂😂
I married an African and have learned about the spirit husband or spirit wife; demonic attacks on one's life and dreams.
Are you talking about spirit spouses, marine kingdom?
Yep😂
😂😂😂😂
Exactly! They really need to define what they really mean by spiritual marriages, spirit wives(succubus) amd spirit husbands (incubus).
Oh my I am glad you did a video on this. As a side note, I have been wondering do you have to be "married" at a church and a pastor to be considered really married? Also I have heard specifically from one Christian leader that getting married through the Justice of the Peace is a no no. Oh and there are people that say oh you are married after sex because it is in the Bible. And it does not talk about getting "married" means you have a marriage license and a pastor officiates a "wedding."
I dated a guy like this he saw having sex with a woman as marriage and marrying without legal marriage as married. I dis not know what he was practicing was spiritual marriage going around. I insisted on a legal marriage and he brought up the signing of a prenup. I agreed with the prenup. I realized later that I had more to lose than he had. He thought prenup will scare me. I even encouraged it more. 😂
marriage is a religious institution....and if we as a society are less and less religious marriage should dissapear...is not illegal to live with a woman and have sex with them, if is not illegal people are not doing anything illegal if they dont get married, so if a couple dont want to involve the goverment in their relationship they should only married in the Church...why do christians need permission from the goverment to have sex?
Great video would love better lighting though but that’s not too important great work !! Needed conversation 💕🙏🏽🙏🏽
When people have no one to go to they get taken advantage of. And this is an example of a broken person being taken advantage of.
I will say that I understand the man from a private law stance. It sounds like he might have not explained the Common Law aspects of his way of life, if I were to guess. There are ways have everyone lawfully recognized as a household , “dependent “ but it is a more tedious lengthy process . Incorporating the marriage and signing the birth certificate( vs a certificate or affidavit of live birth) gives the government rights to interfere ( via courts, CPS, ect) there’s a lot of reading and studying that goes into it( far more than I can explain in a comment section) but there are ways to have a Common Law (which is biblically based) recognized to the same standard as an incorporated marriage.
How many ppl have a certificate but are not IN THE LEAST BIT married , bound or in covenant?
Maybe he's married to another woman, which is why he's avoiding the legal part.
Ohhhh this could be a whole tv show 😬
She can use the Bible as legal evidence in any court of law in America. The problem is not that they aren't married, the problem is the husband is not viewing them as married. They are indeed married and made vows before God. The state doesn't define marriage. Marriage documents in the Bible were handled by religious leaders, not Caesar. I would encourage anyone to check out Matt Trewhella's content on this topic.
Curly proverbz mentioned in her most recent video that she would love to talk with you Bindi.
All of these advice vids are calling out the importance of wise council prior to the marriage and during the process so the person is vetted, as was discussed in a previous video (maybe a year ago?) about the husband who didn’t work.
In South Africa this happens a lot because "husband"pays dowry, and then you become the wife with no documents,
This is why women neeeeddd therapy. It’s not a suggestion it’s a priority. We always try to convince ourselves and others of what the man has told us is true. When I’m reality it’s manipulation wrapped in narcissism and ego. Codependency and trauma needs to be covered and healed before relationships and marriage. If not we will continue to make wrong decisions like this, and look crazy in the end with NOTHING!!
I was once of thr mind that the goverment should not be included in my marriage. My husband and i were married but did not have legal documwnts , but in our state two people cam be considered married without a marriage liscense under the common law marriage laws ans essentially prove their own marriage if needed. But we eventually did feel convicted to be legally married and im so glad we did. It really has done nothing to hinder our marriage, has also just stopped us from having to contend with others about thr legitimacy of our marriage, and also within our own minds. Plus now i and my children are procted legally in all the ways and i also have legally and formally changed my name. It just feels more complete and whole.
I undertstand this issue from both sides and i now would NOT consider anyone who is not legally married , married.
Love guys and how you just say the truth to set this women free in Jesus name Amen.
Sounds like a new age concept for sure.
Common law marriage? Or is that only in certain states? I’m not advocating for that but it does give you some protection if you’ve been together long enough to be considered common law by the state. 🤷🏻♀️
Edit: I loved hearing the two of you together discuss this and give this lady sound advice. I hope she takes your suggestion. Keep up the great work! You two are a blessing! ♥️
In the UK l can tell you , that things such as widows payments a government benefit . that can be claimed by women legally married You will not get If you are living in with a man , you NEED A MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE.
This payment is made upon death of the husband with proof of marriage certificate.
I'm pretty sure there are only 2 states left that recognize common law marriage.
Helps you not get kicked out of the house that’s about it. But insurance , in case of death situations, and technically you wouldn’t be his wife on paper even with a “common law marriage” it’s more like a nice saying that they say incase or domestic issues
@@Dea.jamone yes totally get that. I’m not saying I agree with it, just in case of a “divorce” “not divorce” (since they aren’t actually married) situation, she might at least get something for her years invested and him not just be able to pick up and leave with zero consequences. However I would never advise a woman to settle for common law marriage.
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Just to clarify for some people, the government doesn't marry you. The license is merely state recognition of a marriage. It's a legally binding document that offers protection for both parties so when they go to another entity, e.g. insurance company, they have more than just their word to verify their union. This affords them certain rights and privileges without the hassle of asking witness to the marriage each time the couple wants something.
It's akin to a college degree from an accredited university. You can get educated on your own but a degree from a university is a quick way for an employer you have the correct education needed for a certain job. That's it.
Marriage is legal so once you sign the papers you are married. A wedding is just a ceremony.
@@im26c4u5 Yes, a wedding IS a ceremony where 2 parties come together to exchange vows before witnesses and join together in marriage. THEN they sign a marriage license before a witness of the state-the pastor/minister- which recognizes their union.
You're correct that it's just a ceremony, but it's a ceremony of importance. You don't need it necessarily, but it's good to have the community band together to witness your union so they can hold you accountable in the future to the vows you made before them.
That license is legally binding. And people need to stop calling it a contract like it has terms and conditions stipulated.
@@hzlkellylooking through these comments I can tell its not about God..its about the benefits that women feel entitled to (especially in a divorce)😅😅
@@jue827really? And children of the ex-couple, do you think about them?
There are many factions of thought within Red Pill and you describing only one of them.
Who ordains a divorce?
What do the scriptures say?
I hope all is well with you and your family dear. But um… when are you uploading another video?
i love u guys what u helping out people ,but still i got a question
My wife is a Christian and im an Atheist. It works out great.
What was time stamped is not describing the modern day men's mentality, but a man. Not easily to come by. Like a Prv 31
I would never accept a spiritual marriage. What if he walks away? I couldn’t remarry. It’s way too risky.
Well, Episcopalian here
Allow me to suggest part of the problem with the kind of thinking talked about in the video is that modern evangelicals are reluctant to think of marriage as a sacrament.
When it’s just me and my Bible and the Holy Spirit, why not get “spiritually” married?
Question @Bindi Marc. Can you please do a video on how your relationship, especially financially, with your husband was like before you left your job?
Since you did work at one point… was it that your husband paid all the bills and you had kept your own salary for your personal desires or did you guys split bills at one point?
The thing is, majority of wives today are not traditional in the sense of staying home… and I see you now as a trad wife, but honestly don’t know much about your transition there aside from you getting pregnant and then asking your husband if you could stay home…
Further question: does becoming a trad wife only become relevant when you get pregnant or is it a role
you assume immediately upon marriage?
Please make sure his son isn't a missing person...
Lol, this happened in the Illiad by Homer. Spoiler alert, the guy got what he wanted (some action), and then left
I Will also never get married through the government as it gives so much control. The fact I have to be approved by the government for something God has already given right to me over. Oh and much more. Anywho, Christian marriage is what my church sticks with and without government involvement.
Romans 13:1-2 says: "Obey the government, for God is the One who has put it there. There is no government anywhere that God has not placed in power. So those who refuse to obey the law of the land are refusing to obey God, and punishment will follow."
Phone and groceries? Girl, that's a LOT! Ughhhhh
It's probably just her phone because he doesn't want her name attached to his name on his phone bill..
@@mandielou 😂😂😂😂 girl, right??
I have known men who wanted to do a church marriage without a state marriage simply for the reason that the divorce legal system is so heavily stacked against men. I wondered too if that was such a bad thing, since I like one less thing for govt. to get its sticky fingers in, and marriage is a really serious and special thing in my faith. However, my church only recognizes marriages that are legal. Maybe this is why.
Being afraid of a legal system is operating from a position of fear. God said that perfect love casts out all fear and that those who fear are not perfected in love. Men should instead be focused on picking the right woman and loving her like Christ loves the Church. In doing those two things, there's a really high likelihood that there won't be a divorce.
Unfortunately, many "churches" are subjects of the government when it is not necessary.
If Christian’s hold to a biblical model of marriage, divorce shouldn’t even be on the table. The higher the risk for both people the more they understand the depth of commitment, which should also act as another deterrent for divorce and another reason why they should think thoroughly about each other before even getting married. This marriage removes all sacrifice and commitment, it’s literally a risk free situation that you can run out of as soon as you don’t like it. And he wants to be able to do it without cost. Divorce should cost you something because marriage is serious, not a game. He made the choice out of fear and was only thinking of himself and covering his own behind. He’s a coward and tbh a deceiver just like she said. He knew how he felt but he still wanted the benefits of marriage without the risk.
@poik247 Christian's hold to a biblical model of
marriage, divorce shouldn't even be on the
table."
Well, divorce is on the table with many christians and church leaders, not to mention the world. Often, when making life choices, we have concider what is happening, not just what should be happening.
"The higher the risk for both people
the more they understand the depth of
commitment, which should also act as another
deterrent for divorce..."
You're correct here but perhaps fail to realize is not only is divorce not risky for most women, they are highly incentivized to choose divorce.
This has been the reality for decades and men are very aware of it. Government, church leaders, women and even men themselves did not adequately oppose or reform this, and now men have and are adapting.
"...another reason why they should think thoroughly about each other before even getting married."
Love and marriage are common to start young before people are fully mature. This wasn't as big a problem before things like No Fault Divorce. Society expected you live with your choices and strive to make the best of it. Now, not so much. Furthermore, it's hard to predict who people will become. Profession of faith isn't a great predicter of virtue anymore.
"This marriage removes all sacrifice and commitment, it's literally a risk free situation that you can run out of as soon as you don't like it."
This seems like a very secular assessment. Messiah is his head and judge.
There are still serious risks he is assuming, such as the possibility of children, that are not eliminated by this arrangement.
Additionally, according to the letter, he's a great man who has so far sacrificed to provide and has been faithful to his commitments (except for the promise to get a license, which granted deserves scrutiny)
"And he wants to be able to do it without cost. Divorce should cost you something because marriage is serious, not a game."
I assure you, many men choose to live this way to protect themselves from woman. Not planning for a future divorce. The State has empowered women to be very destrutive to their husbands & families and many women have chosen to use that power.
"He made the choice out of fear and was only thinking of himself and covering his own behind."
You seem to have a lot of insight into his inner motives and, presumably, you haven't even spoke with him. It's possible he's acting in fear but his actions are easily explained by prudence and wisdom as well. Covering is own "behind" is these matters can also be a protection for the family.
"He's a coward and tbh a deceiver just like she said."
The letter doesn't require such a harsh judgement as this. He was only unfaithful to one commitment (granted a significant one) but this is also a matter of conscience. It's possible this move would seriously violate that conscience. Sometimes commitments or simply life presents you with two bad options and you have to do the best you can. Legal marriage is a death sentence to some relationships the husband has to bear the burden of that decision.
"He knew how he felt but he still wanted the benefits of marriage without the risk."
Again, he is still taking on risks & consequences and appears to have been pretty up front about his convictions
I think that's the point: Biblically, divorce was protection for women (you can research this yourself). Jesus spoke to the hardness of men's hearts. Today, men still hold the power in our world. And not sure what legal system you are a part of, but statistically women are NOT better off after divorce, especially if there are children involved. Globally, this would be true.
What is a spiritual marriage?
No Fault Divorce laws have now made Legal Marriage a very negligent and foolish act unfortunately.
Divorce isn’t inevitable in a marriage. No fault divorce is an issue but not getting married won’t fix it. Especially if you end up moving in with in and having kids with the person anyway. At that point it’s just selfishness.
@@ab-gailLike with many things, the worlds concept of marriage and the Bibles concept of marriage are two different things.
The man described in the letter, it seems, has has gone to great lengths to honor traditional/biblical marriage.
It seems like alot of work to go through jusr to trick a woman into bed.
@@xbluesaintxHe didn't honor traditional marriage or the Biblical definition at all. He dishonored the woman, because he didn't keep his word (she had to go without insurance as a result) and he dishonored his own children who won't get anything from him in the instance he dies (because he refused to put his name on their birth certificates). Those are not honoring God at all.
@@xbluesaintxAlso, in the Bible, they had legal marriages where you couldn't get divorced without a certificate of divorce. What reassurance does this woman have that he won't just up and leave since their "marriage" isn't legal and what accountability is placed on the man to stay in the "marriage"?