Didn't they get a 1 year extension due to having to scrap the ambitious graphics engine? They learned their lesson. After Halo 2 they became more organized and focused.
I thought Halo 2 was amazing. The storyline brought into the game was brilliant especially the introduction of the Arbiter, the scarab mission was epic at the time, introduction of the new enemy the brutes (who were the best version) and the gameplay was still amazing.
I love how to the point these videos are, in comparison to other youtubers that use clickbait and take an hour to actually talk about what you really came for
@@MrSlanderer he literally says "it does nothing" a minute and 30 seconds into the video, the rest of the video is just an in depth description of why it's there and what it would be there in the first place, that's pretty to the point
Maybe you were suppose to get carried to the right instead of the left at that intersection at one point and a lift was in place to take you up or back or down but with bungie rushing to finish they made changes to the level layout and decided to go left instead.
Forget Halo 3's modded pelican run, The Gravemind mission on this could have been easily built as a pelican escape mission. Flying your pelican to the key ship to escape the core of your enemies main base navigating buildings and auto turrets with banshees and phantoms fighting you and each other while watching distant explosions as the flying mega city looks as if its tearing itself apart from the fighting of the different factions going on through out it.
Interesting. Given that the mission is called "Forerunner Ship" in the game files, I wonder if Bungie had originally planned for this mission to be longer. Maybe they wanted to incorporate some of the elements of the infamous cut mission where you board Truth's ship. The switch uses the forerunner model, not the covenant model that you see in other parts of the mission. I always wondered why High Charity was such a short mission, maybe this is the reason?
Could be a placeholder to use that model while testing things out, but there could really be something to what you're saying. It does make sense. It's always been a mystery to me that the aesthetics between the ruins on Delta Halo and... well forerunner structures literally anywhere else are so different. I'm not sure if that was ever answered, or if Truth's ship would even use those kinds of switches. I figured it'd use switches more in line with the last mission in the control room of Delta Halo, or the kind of switches you see in the Forerunner wall.
This seriously must be the year of halo, a lot of stuff is being announced, mysteries being solved, and my boi generalheed is posting like crazy! Good shit 👌
As someone who keeps a whole virtual scrapyard of tests and trials of modeling designs... I can almost guarantee that these switches were just something made by a Dev while they were testing event triggers. This switch in particular, if you haven't noticed, has an ideal view of the bridge formation.
It's possible but based on what I've seen in the tags and the fact that references to the lifts that the switches control still exist, I think early in the level's design, they were possibly going for a level like The Library from Halo 1 where you had to take multiple elevators up to reach the icon.
*Legends say...* There were 4 hidden switches on High Charity Activating one will spawn elevator right beneath you and trasport you to secret room where you have to fight a mighty *Golden Flood Spore* Processing with the switches further, you will need to deafeat the silver & plantin Spore aswell The fourth enemy is a mystery though... However defeating all four secret enemies, makes the easteregg almost complete. You will be spawn at the beginnig of the Mission with dual golden silenced SMGs, while two Flood juggernauts slowly approaching. Killing them triggers Gravemind to showing up and attack you in a lore friendly way. This is one of the most ambitios easteregg in Halo, but sadly it was cut from the game due of lack of time... Or wasn't?...
I never heard of the Trigates before (okay, I was young during Halo 2 and didn't know much about the Internet) and I love that the first four results are GeneralHeed videos.
As a kid I loved the mystery behind it. My imagination ran wild wondering about what the trigates were, what they did when activated, and how to activate them.
0:52 That's a forerunner switch used on Delta Halo, Regret, and Quarantine zone, not a covenant switch Edit: You should also do a video on if you can get into the control room on uprising since you can see the doors wide open when you get outside on that cliff
I'd like to see someone get inside my famous void rooms on Quarantine Zone. That's not what I called them back in year 1 of Halo 2 though, I wish I could remember. I had so many videos uploaded to Mythica.org and posted on High Impact Halo
What someone can do is find out their plays coordinates, and in assembly (what he was using) replace the normal switchs' coordinates to where the player is, which will allow you to see/activate them all and see if the buried ones actually do anything
I was actually going to ask if you'd cover this. Been thinking about this one for a long time. Plus, Im an avid watcher of your channel... Need to think of another. There was the green door on the high charity, but that may have already been answered or covered by you before.
I think the green door was on Sacred Icon actually unless we're thinking of different doors. I'm not aware of any explanation on that green door though but I'll look into it a bit when I get the chance. That was also a peculiar thing for me for awhile.
@@Generalkidd You're right it was Sacred Icon, but definitely love to see what you find. I got a good one for ya I'd love for you to look into: On reddit a while ago I saved a post from a guy, I feel he may have been BS'n, but he said in Halo 2 you can reenable a print command on the screen and when you save Maranda Keyes on Cario Station it says a message on screen something like "take me now Chief". Love to see if you can verify, I can send you the reddit post too if you like.
@@oddheader Just looked into it and can confirm she does say that to Chief in the debug output. There's actually quite a few interesting things in the debug output.
Man. I remember when I discovered this for the first time while I was making a video for High Impact Halo. I was working on getting up on top of what we called the chandelier in that room. That switch was left in my video as a "wtf was that?" clip from a failed grenade launch. It's so cool to see people still making Halo 2 content. Long live HIH ♥️
Bungie yeah Ik but now days it's 343 in a spot light of halo. I laugh tho how many actually noticed of you managed to know and call it out xD Nice one fellas
So what if the switches were originally meant as a manual activation of the prison hold grav lifts? Before Bungie was able to set up a a trigger script letting cortana control it automatically, Say the first was 'supposed' to take you up but you got sent down to the prison hold and had to find a second one to reverse the direction of the lift and rescue the marines as a side objective. The visible switch just seems like it was meant to control a lift in the chamber that would have made the area more symmetrical or be an extra area that was scrapped for whatever reason.
I wonder if maybe that button was meant to be on a platform where you entered and it was an override button to get the gravity platforms working (one that you'd have to return to seeing as Halo loved to make you do that *"Oh, you came all this way to complete the mission? Sorry, an Elite General has locked the door, so you'll have to go find the override to open it again"*). But since they were short on time, they just detached the button from the programmed lift and made them all automatically pop up?
It's to unlock the golden warthog. If you hit the button in the correct order you get golden warthogs for custom games. It's just like in reach when you're trying to spawn those banshees on the package
I think that the room you are in was meant to be set up different. You would actually be going along the outside of the room instead of taking the platforms in the middle. When you make it to a button, you would take it to a lift to get to the next level and casually make your way to the top. Possibly to the prophet chambers.
If we change the index off of - 1 to a proper index, will it spawn the proper associated lift on the location designated and see where it goes/operates?
Hey Generalkidd, awesome video as always. Just curious, can you revive the Honor Guard Ultras in the mission Gravemind? Or simply use them in any level? We never see them move or do anything outside the cutscenes.
Hey you should do a video on how to.get the various different scarab guns in halo2. I believe theres 4 different guns, besides the most iconic gun with the banshee.
There are 3 known scarab guns you can get. One on Outskirts, the one that spawns in the street and shoots on Metropolis, and also the famous one put on the bridge high up on purpose. On The Great Journey, by then Bungie apparently had figured out how to have the scarab shoot from inside itself like you'd expect so they didn't need a floating physical plasma rifle to create the shots.
I have the feeling i know what the other deleted lifts would of been made for, As a modder watching this i think i know,.. The other lifts would of been created to extend the level, making it alot bigger this would also feel more to the lore since High Charity is supposed to be huge and in halo 2 we only play smalls parts of it, I imagine you would take a lift up run around kill shit and repeat, It would also make sense to make a lift where the first button was found making use of the open space, maybe bungie was running out of time or didn't want to extend the level or maybe they their starting to get burnt out and wanted to finish the game.
My theory is that there used to be a lower level in that room. The developers didn’t have time to develop the lower level and the elevator, but they already put in the switch. So they just moved the lift button all the way to the corner to come back to it later
That's inaccurate actually, based on what's left over in the tags as I explained in the video, the switch was most likely part of a cut section of that level, one that probably involved accessing multiple floors in either that room or another section, similar to the lift near the end of the mission. The lift that the switches controlled don't exist anymore but all the references remain.
@Thomas Houghton With Halo 2: Anniversary coming to MCC on PC, all that's left we need is a proper Halo Editing Kit so we can finish what Bungie started..
Could the other switches that appear in the index and have coordinates just be culled out? As in, physically be in the game world but without the player being able to view them? Or perhaps I'm misusing the term 'culled' - anyways, I love getting closure on these old "mysteries" as your Halo 2 modding literacy increases.
It's highly possible because the other switches spawn in solid space and therefore might not be visible because of that. But I did phase myself into solid space with trainers and reached the exact coordinates where the switch would be. I didn't get any prompt to activate them so I'm not sure if they're actually there or not.
during development the devs were probably like "switches... what is this marathon? lets use an ai constuct that hacks alien core systems and does all the work instead"
I think the way it turned out was probably for the best. Too many switches would've made the level too repetitive and would be a repeat of The Library from Halo 1.
@@Generalkidd im not sayin its a bad thing, i dont really think about it even in halo ce. halo 4 spartan ops though got a little ridiculous with 50 levels of recycled maps pressing swithes
Actually my theory is that this mission was originally supposed to be something more similar to The Library from Halo 1 where you had to reach different floors via an elevator, only this time you'd have to manually activate the elevators like the one that leads to the Prophet's chambers. But seeing as how people did not like The Library, they probably scrapped the idea.
It's more like the elevator was probably built at some point but has since been deleted before launch. Only the buttons remain but all the elevator references still exist as well.
maybe you had to manually activate the grav lifts Edit: either way, this probably could've been found out much sooner seeing as assembly's existed for years
Yes it wasn't too difficult to find in Assembly but I never bothered to really look into until quite recently. Prior to that, I generally just took everyone else's word for it that the switches were placeholders for the gravlift tunnels later in the mission. I eventually started to doubt that and looked into it some more finally.
Have you thought of looking at the scripts? Might be some stuff left there... I mean i took a look at h2 scripts years ago and i remember that in high charity flood was supposed to chase you on ghosts n stuff....
The -1 field is simply a reference to the palette index (Think of the palette as a list of objects to be used as common blueprints, there's palettes for such things as Crates, Vehicles, Bipeds, Weapons, and so on) For example, the biped palette. This is usually a list of all the npc/pc in a level, 0 could be Chief, 1 a Grunt, 2 an Elite, etc. If you change the player's "Representation" (Normally 0 in this example) to a 2, you'd be playing an Elite. If you changed the -1 to a different number, say 3, you could potentially spawn a different "Machine" at the intended coordinates. iirc doors are machines, so you could spawn one of those in place of this non-existent elevator. In short, it probably wouldn't crash, just either spawn a different machine, or if another "invalid" number (Empty object or outside the bounds of the index), nothing as is with the case of -1.
Probably what happened is the gravity lifts were going to be manually activated but loading all that back and forth was probably a nightmare for the optical drive so they just made it automatic and one way. Or maybe they decided from the start that if it's one way then a switch would be pointless anyways.
That's the reality with cut content from early in development. But it didn't stop people from coming up with crazy conspiracy theories and myths about the purpose of the switches back in 2004. Unfortunately I guess people aren't as fascinated by old Halo 2 myths and mysteries from 16 years ago but it was still fun to finally know for a fact 100% what all these hidden things do or don't do.
Nah I only managed to launch myself to the switch and activate it to show nothing happens. But at the time I couldn't explain why the switch was there in the first place.
Next video: How to play as the secret switch (No Mods)
This needs to get to the top
It happened
When you first saw the secret switch in high charity, were you blinded by its majesty?
Blinded?
Tibby ZT Paralyzed? Dumbstruck?
Yes
No.
Lmao
Imagine mods to activate the original switches and trigger Gravemind showing up
Emmanuel De Arcos that would be really fucking cool.
Halo 2: SPV 1
MCC: Halo 2 on PC will probably have something similar
I almost wish Bungie had a extra 12 months of development for Halo 2. Just imagine how much more stuff we would have.
@Fer Morales more like microsoft went okay with their game plan then they suddenly said "aight finish the game or die"
Didn't they get a 1 year extension due to having to scrap the ambitious graphics engine? They learned their lesson. After Halo 2 they became more organized and focused.
@@Jaker788 dont know about the extension but they certainly fucked up with the engine
@@Jaker788 ha. Then destiny happened.
I thought Halo 2 was amazing. The storyline brought into the game was brilliant especially the introduction of the Arbiter, the scarab mission was epic at the time, introduction of the new enemy the brutes (who were the best version) and the gameplay was still amazing.
You actually took the high road and closed the lid on this instead of using this for another April Fools video. Kudos.
It’s January
Generalheed: Solving Halo mysteries since 2007.
I love how to the point these videos are, in comparison to other youtubers that use clickbait and take an hour to actually talk about what you really came for
Asian Invasion 8 minutes isn’t exactly “to the point.” Should’ve made a 10 l-second video, just hit the switch, and say, “It apparently does nothing.”
@@MrSlanderer he literally says "it does nothing" a minute and 30 seconds into the video, the rest of the video is just an in depth description of why it's there and what it would be there in the first place, that's pretty to the point
Maybe you were suppose to get carried to the right instead of the left at that intersection at one point and a lift was in place to take you up or back or down but with bungie rushing to finish they made changes to the level layout and decided to go left instead.
I'd give one of my balls for a copy of what the original Halo 2 was supposed to be
Id give both
Gross lady boy
Forget Halo 3's modded pelican run, The Gravemind mission on this could have been easily built as a pelican escape mission. Flying your pelican to the key ship to escape the core of your enemies main base navigating buildings and auto turrets with banshees and phantoms fighting you and each other while watching distant explosions as the flying mega city looks as if its tearing itself apart from the fighting of the different factions going on through out it.
Ik your joking but I got a copy
Mind giving a leg?
@@prematurebat2365 don't play with me xD
Interesting. Given that the mission is called "Forerunner Ship" in the game files, I wonder if Bungie had originally planned for this mission to be longer. Maybe they wanted to incorporate some of the elements of the infamous cut mission where you board Truth's ship. The switch uses the forerunner model, not the covenant model that you see in other parts of the mission. I always wondered why High Charity was such a short mission, maybe this is the reason?
Could be a placeholder to use that model while testing things out, but there could really be something to what you're saying. It does make sense. It's always been a mystery to me that the aesthetics between the ruins on Delta Halo and... well forerunner structures literally anywhere else are so different. I'm not sure if that was ever answered, or if Truth's ship would even use those kinds of switches. I figured it'd use switches more in line with the last mission in the control room of Delta Halo, or the kind of switches you see in the Forerunner wall.
It was going to be a warthog run but due to a lack of time, it got scrapped
They also had fourunner tank cut.
I'm glad someone pointed out the switch was forerunner in design and not covenant(despite covenant design trying and failing to mimic the forerunners)
This seriously must be the year of halo, a lot of stuff is being announced, mysteries being solved, and my boi generalheed is posting like crazy!
Good shit 👌
As someone who keeps a whole virtual scrapyard of tests and trials of modeling designs... I can almost guarantee that these switches were just something made by a Dev while they were testing event triggers. This switch in particular, if you haven't noticed, has an ideal view of the bridge formation.
Ahh, just a way for a Dev to trigger an event and see how it looks in game. Good thought
It's possible but based on what I've seen in the tags and the fact that references to the lifts that the switches control still exist, I think early in the level's design, they were possibly going for a level like The Library from Halo 1 where you had to take multiple elevators up to reach the icon.
*Legends say...*
There were 4 hidden switches on High Charity
Activating one will spawn elevator right beneath you and trasport you to secret room where you have to fight a mighty *Golden Flood Spore*
Processing with the switches further, you will need to deafeat the silver & plantin Spore aswell
The fourth enemy is a mystery though...
However defeating all four secret enemies, makes the easteregg almost complete.
You will be spawn at the beginnig of the Mission with dual golden silenced SMGs, while two Flood juggernauts slowly approaching.
Killing them triggers Gravemind to showing up
and attack you in a lore friendly way.
This is one of the most ambitios easteregg in Halo, but sadly it was cut from the game due of lack of time... Or wasn't?...
High Charity is such a beautiful map...
3:10 she said that to me once...
Kelsey MTF about being a machine....
Grant Doherty yeah wtf
About being a switch
@@lofiseeker1790 Do you even lift?
OMG!! Man you are a legend!!!
I never heard of the Trigates before (okay, I was young during Halo 2 and didn't know much about the Internet) and I love that the first four results are GeneralHeed videos.
As a kid I loved the mystery behind it. My imagination ran wild wondering about what the trigates were, what they did when activated, and how to activate them.
When I heard 141, in my head I heard, “Mission Accomplished! Good Work.”
And then Shepard shoots you in the abdomen.
After that he tea bags you
I want to know what happened to those grenades at the end.
2:50 feels like I’m in math class
Dang it frfr 😂
Just goes to show you how important math is
@@dem0ninthemist I hate math
Just change the spawn location
I didn't even know it existed
0:52 That's a forerunner switch used on Delta Halo, Regret, and Quarantine zone, not a covenant switch
Edit: You should also do a video on if you can get into the control room on uprising since you can see the doors wide open when you get outside on that cliff
I'd like to see someone get inside my famous void rooms on Quarantine Zone. That's not what I called them back in year 1 of Halo 2 though, I wish I could remember. I had so many videos uploaded to Mythica.org and posted on High Impact Halo
What someone can do is find out their plays coordinates, and in assembly (what he was using) replace the normal switchs' coordinates to where the player is, which will allow you to see/activate them all and see if the buried ones actually do anything
Halo Infinite releases very close to the 117th anniversary of the Wright Brothers’ first flight.
Weird, right?
Yeah there's a thing called coincidence 🤦♂️
correlation =/= causation
@Decisivere You sound like my forensics teacher. “Correlation does not equal causation.” “Investigate.” “I don’t play on lab days, get to work.”
Jack Cutter I’m kind of wondering if this is just coincidental, planned, or an accident they’ll use for marketing.
I was actually going to ask if you'd cover this. Been thinking about this one for a long time. Plus, Im an avid watcher of your channel... Need to think of another. There was the green door on the high charity, but that may have already been answered or covered by you before.
Oh hey, i'm subbed to you! Didnt realise you watched Heed at all. What a surprise to see you here aha.
I think the green door was on Sacred Icon actually unless we're thinking of different doors. I'm not aware of any explanation on that green door though but I'll look into it a bit when I get the chance. That was also a peculiar thing for me for awhile.
@@Generalkidd You're right it was Sacred Icon, but definitely love to see what you find. I got a good one for ya I'd love for you to look into: On reddit a while ago I saved a post from a guy, I feel he may have been BS'n, but he said in Halo 2 you can reenable a print command on the screen and when you save Maranda Keyes on Cario Station it says a message on screen something like "take me now Chief". Love to see if you can verify, I can send you the reddit post too if you like.
@@oddheader Just looked into it and can confirm she does say that to Chief in the debug output. There's actually quite a few interesting things in the debug output.
Generalkidd that’s awesome! A video on that and the other debug oddities would be really interesting!
Man. I remember when I discovered this for the first time while I was making a video for High Impact Halo. I was working on getting up on top of what we called the chandelier in that room. That switch was left in my video as a "wtf was that?" clip from a failed grenade launch.
It's so cool to see people still making Halo 2 content.
Long live HIH ♥️
We need SPV3 Halo 2 so we can play Halo 2 with all the awesome cut content. I would love to play Halo 2 with all cut content restored.
That'd be impossible since almost all Halo 2 cut content hasn't been leaked and we have no clue how the missions would've panned out
I love how your intro is just a really REALLY old Windows startup sound LMAO
GeneralKidd uploads a video
Takes a breath: *_sO_* !
"Hey, we don't have time to complete the lift thing, just delete the buttons."
*proceeds to bury them in the map*
I honestly was very curious about this switch... 343's random switch
prematurebat 236 Bungie’s switch. It’s been there since the launch on original Xbox.
Yikes. Imagine a time when the audience is so young, they think 343 is the original developer.
Yikes hahaha
@@DSleezy117 it got 27 upvotes lmao
Bungie yeah Ik but now days it's 343 in a spot light of halo.
I laugh tho how many actually noticed of you managed to know and call it out xD
Nice one fellas
So what if the switches were originally meant as a manual activation of the prison hold grav lifts? Before Bungie was able to set up a a trigger script letting cortana control it automatically, Say the first was 'supposed' to take you up but you got sent down to the prison hold and had to find a second one to reverse the direction of the lift and rescue the marines as a side objective. The visible switch just seems like it was meant to control a lift in the chamber that would have made the area more symmetrical or be an extra area that was scrapped for whatever reason.
I guess the only people who will ever know what those switches would do are the people who made them.
_Those who build these switches.. What happened to them?_
Wolf Epsilon your comment deserves more recognition 😂😂
I wonder if maybe that button was meant to be on a platform where you entered and it was an override button to get the gravity platforms working (one that you'd have to return to seeing as Halo loved to make you do that *"Oh, you came all this way to complete the mission? Sorry, an Elite General has locked the door, so you'll have to go find the override to open it again"*). But since they were short on time, they just detached the button from the programmed lift and made them all automatically pop up?
i waited YEARS for this!
The big platform that drops down may be the elevator.
It's to unlock the golden warthog. If you hit the button in the correct order you get golden warthogs for custom games. It's just like in reach when you're trying to spawn those banshees on the package
If you activate them all, it'll open a door, and there you'll see Noble 6 alive
I think that the room you are in was meant to be set up different. You would actually be going along the outside of the room instead of taking the platforms in the middle. When you make it to a button, you would take it to a lift to get to the next level and casually make your way to the top. Possibly to the prophet chambers.
If we change the index off of - 1 to a proper index, will it spawn the proper associated lift on the location designated and see where it goes/operates?
It's like when people try to diy renovate their homes and end up with a light switch not connected to anything.
Hey Generalkidd, awesome video as always.
Just curious, can you revive the Honor Guard Ultras in the mission Gravemind? Or simply use them in any level?
We never see them move or do anything outside the cutscenes.
So sad that Microsoft didn't let Bungie complete the original vision for this game.
Fer Morales No. You're a know nothing fucking moron.
Fer Morales "... entire features and levels had to be tossed out in order to desperately make the [Microsoft] ship date."
Good ol H2 mysteries
I love generalkidd channel
Hey you should do a video on how to.get the various different scarab guns in halo2. I believe theres 4 different guns, besides the most iconic gun with the banshee.
There are 3 known scarab guns you can get. One on Outskirts, the one that spawns in the street and shoots on Metropolis, and also the famous one put on the bridge high up on purpose. On The Great Journey, by then Bungie apparently had figured out how to have the scarab shoot from inside itself like you'd expect so they didn't need a floating physical plasma rifle to create the shots.
Probably a good thing that these intended-elevators got deleted. I don't think I could bear another Library or Assault on the Control Room...
High Charity was the best level. Wish we could've spent more time there.
I have the feeling i know what the other deleted lifts would of been made for, As a modder watching this i think i know,.. The other lifts would of been created to extend the level, making it alot bigger this would also feel more to the lore since High Charity is supposed to be huge and in halo 2 we only play smalls parts of it, I imagine you would take a lift up run around kill shit and repeat, It would also make sense to make a lift where the first button was found making use of the open space, maybe bungie was running out of time or didn't want to extend the level or maybe they their starting to get burnt out and wanted to finish the game.
why not change the value to see if you can get some sort of lift to spawn?
What about the hidden switch on halo3 any new details on that easteregg?
My theory is that there used to be a lower level in that room. The developers didn’t have time to develop the lower level and the elevator, but they already put in the switch. So they just moved the lift button all the way to the corner to come back to it later
Short version: it does nothing but was most likely used as a shortcut for quick level testing with the devs.
That's inaccurate actually, based on what's left over in the tags as I explained in the video, the switch was most likely part of a cut section of that level, one that probably involved accessing multiple floors in either that room or another section, similar to the lift near the end of the mission. The lift that the switches controlled don't exist anymore but all the references remain.
Bruh I’m watching this on my phone and the second he pressed it, my Xbox behind me turned on 😳😳
Halo 2 is a good game, it's even more frustrating to know most of the content and ideas were cut from final release.
@Thomas Houghton With Halo 2: Anniversary coming to MCC on PC, all that's left we need is a proper Halo Editing Kit so we can finish what Bungie started..
I have no clue why but realizing how much stuff are hidden to my sight but still active makes me uncomfortable lol
Three switches... three gates...
*whistles innocently*
I played this mission the other day and yeah it makes you curious when you look at it
Next vid: sentinels with snipers, popcorn funeral, and tank projectiles from warthog fire or ghosts shooting mortars.
What about the switch in the very first room floating why high in the middle of the room?
What happens if you make the object a valid lift and then activate the switch? Will it move the object? Curious where the lift would move the player
Could the other switches that appear in the index and have coordinates just be culled out? As in, physically be in the game world but without the player being able to view them? Or perhaps I'm misusing the term 'culled' - anyways, I love getting closure on these old "mysteries" as your Halo 2 modding literacy increases.
It's highly possible because the other switches spawn in solid space and therefore might not be visible because of that. But I did phase myself into solid space with trainers and reached the exact coordinates where the switch would be. I didn't get any prompt to activate them so I'm not sure if they're actually there or not.
during development the devs were probably like "switches... what is this marathon? lets use an ai constuct that hacks alien core systems and does all the work instead"
I think the way it turned out was probably for the best. Too many switches would've made the level too repetitive and would be a repeat of The Library from Halo 1.
@@Generalkidd im not sayin its a bad thing, i dont really think about it even in halo ce. halo 4 spartan ops though got a little ridiculous with 50 levels of recycled maps pressing swithes
He keeps throwing grenades underneath his foot that aren't doing anything. what the hell is going on?
If you throw grenades while standing on that grav lift, they actually go through it a bit and won't do anything.
Id cri if it turns out you need to hit the button on the og Xbox since the Easter egg didn't port over well
I wonder what happens if you were to change the value of those lift files?
I suspect this system was a prototype for the automated grav lifts in the detention block, before they decided to rework it
Actually my theory is that this mission was originally supposed to be something more similar to The Library from Halo 1 where you had to reach different floors via an elevator, only this time you'd have to manually activate the elevators like the one that leads to the Prophet's chambers. But seeing as how people did not like The Library, they probably scrapped the idea.
They built the elevator button before the elevator... then they never built the elevator.
It's more like the elevator was probably built at some point but has since been deleted before launch. Only the buttons remain but all the elevator references still exist as well.
There is also a switch on Delta Halo before you get on the gondola
maybe you had to manually activate the grav lifts
Edit: either way, this probably could've been found out much sooner seeing as assembly's existed for years
Yes it wasn't too difficult to find in Assembly but I never bothered to really look into until quite recently. Prior to that, I generally just took everyone else's word for it that the switches were placeholders for the gravlift tunnels later in the mission. I eventually started to doubt that and looked into it some more finally.
Yes
Temporary Grav-lift Switch... The end.
Maybe it would've brought down the platform that automatically comes down?
Have you thought of looking at the scripts? Might be some stuff left there... I mean i took a look at h2 scripts years ago and i remember that in high charity flood was supposed to chase you on ghosts n stuff....
i have wondered about this switch ever since i got the game
What would happen if you start the value to something higher than -1. Would it spawn the lift? Or just crash the game as the object "does not exist"
The -1 field is simply a reference to the palette index (Think of the palette as a list of objects to be used as common blueprints, there's palettes for such things as Crates, Vehicles, Bipeds, Weapons, and so on)
For example, the biped palette. This is usually a list of all the npc/pc in a level, 0 could be Chief, 1 a Grunt, 2 an Elite, etc.
If you change the player's "Representation" (Normally 0 in this example) to a 2, you'd be playing an Elite.
If you changed the -1 to a different number, say 3, you could potentially spawn a different "Machine" at the intended coordinates. iirc doors are machines, so you could spawn one of those in place of this non-existent elevator.
In short, it probably wouldn't crash, just either spawn a different machine, or if another "invalid" number (Empty object or outside the bounds of the index), nothing as is with the case of -1.
Can you make Dark souls 3 video about boss AI battles?
One of them might be for the Warthog run.
The switch allows you to get the golden warthog.
Great investigate work!
Set the number to 0 n hit it. See where it takes you. Rainbow road here we come!
Why didn't we all try old original PC Port Halo 2 No clipping and flying mods.
Could be for those platforms that spawn, placeholder for sure
I always wondered what that was when I was a kid.
How are you fitting a scarab in there?
Ive looked everywhere. You said you can get your coords in Prohect Cartographer. How?
See if you can find the other two switches with mods?
ok
Hey I love your videos man
another video about kidd destroying work :D
nice grenade a the end
Thanks for wasting my time
Probably what happened is the gravity lifts were going to be manually activated but loading all that back and forth was probably a nightmare for the optical drive so they just made it automatic and one way. Or maybe they decided from the start that if it's one way then a switch would be pointless anyways.
A lot of these turn out to be "nothing happens"
That's the reality with cut content from early in development. But it didn't stop people from coming up with crazy conspiracy theories and myths about the purpose of the switches back in 2004. Unfortunately I guess people aren't as fascinated by old Halo 2 myths and mysteries from 16 years ago but it was still fun to finally know for a fact 100% what all these hidden things do or don't do.
SURPRISE, GUYS, IT DOES NOTHING
Who would have guessed?
I thought you already solved this before lol
Nah I only managed to launch myself to the switch and activate it to show nothing happens. But at the time I couldn't explain why the switch was there in the first place.
Any idea how to contact the General to ask him questions?
Knock on that nigga door or sum
He reads most of the comments. Just ask something not stupid and worthwhile.
Anyone else having trouble with the in game audio on Halo 2 ?
Is it generalkidd or generalhidd? I am really confused, it says kidd with a k but you pronounce it as an h.
generalheed. his youtube name is generalkidd for some reason
NeroAngelo Xbox Gamertag is General Heed and RUclips channel is Generalkidd. When he made his xbox account Generalkidd wasn’t available
good work but you know as well as I that we want to find out the truth of the delta halo switch