Kenn Thomas wrote the first book on Danny Casolaro and Kenn Thomas worked at University of Missouri-St. Louis Archives. That's why the Netflix doc GOES to the Missouri archives to get the Danny Casolaro research papers. Too bad Kenn Thomas didn't get thanked at the end of the Netflix doc. Kenn Thomas passed on last year! I corresponded with him via email off and on over 20 years.
I haven't seen the docuseries but I was told the other day by someone who saw it that Kenn Thomas wasn't cited or mentioned. If this is true then it's wrong on their part. In my recent article on the Octopus, I credit Thomas and cite his article on Casolaro & octopus for the Disinformation website. I can't say I'm surprised though
@@writeralbertlanier3434thanks - turns out Kenn Thomas was citing Cheri Seymour in Thomas' book - yet for some reason misspelled her first name! Strange. Not just misspelled it but got it wrong. Anyway Trineday, the publisher of Cheri Seymour, just did a new podcast interview with Cheri Seymour and the two filmmakers of the Netflix American Conspiracy. So they really were relying on Cheri Seymour. She mentions in another radio interview how she also went to the University of Missouri archives to get Danny's research notes - yet again NO mention of Kenn Thomas! So yes I think there was some competitive turf dynamics going on. Let's face it - there's only a few conspiracy "publishers" - and it's a small "market" for "sales." hahaha. Cheri Seymour's first book was self-published. So I can see why she would be very protective of her research. So yeah Kenn Thomas unjustly got left out - but I think that maybe started with Cheri Seymour and it was just repeated by the Netflix film makers who relied on Cheri as their main source... I should see if Cheri's book cites Kenn Thomas at all.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 The impression l get is that the filmmakers of the docuseries are pretty much ignoring anyone else who actually researched, looked into and did the work on this subject before their doc. I researched Inslaw, Promis and Danny in 2010. I was interviewed on a podcast in March of 2010 called Media Monarchy about this for 2 1/2 hours. I gather this was before both the guys behind the Netflix doc got on to this. It strikes me as a way for them to colonize and appropriate Casolaro/ octopus/ Promis for themselves The fact that Kenn Thomas as well as his co writer Jim.Keith who came out with a book.about Danny and the Octopus in the 1990s are rendered invisible lends support to this. It's the kiss off for those of us who examined this previously I guess.
The police officer who found the reporter said the tendons in both arms had been cut about eight times, so deep that the hands could barely hold on. The reporter could cut all the tendons on one hand, but he would not be able to cut the second hand, because it is impossible to hold anything in the hand with the tendons cut. It couldn't be suicide.
A LOt of whistleblowers are “Suicided” and A LOt of high profile HITS. member the Coroner is the only one with the power to make certain there will be No Investigation. Unless the family hires a Private Investigator & can afford a Private Autopsy which very few victims can.
The documentary was fantastic. True mastery of an infinitely complex conspiracy. These guys are next level. Had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. I love the ending how he realizes everyone is essentially pretty mentally ill. Doesn't mean it didn't happen. Truly brilliant filmmakers. Zack and Christian should be very proud of this release.
Love your content - could you by any chance ask the film makers to get Michael Riconosciuto on Shawn Ryan or JREs podcast? Especially Shawn's given his background, thanks. @@FactualAmericaPodcast
@@ChiIIerClan Yeah it seems ppl who knew of this case before aren't that happy. Ppl who learned for the first time think its wonderful. It certainly appears to me to do a great job of discrediting Danny and make it seem a lot more plausible than he just went crazy and bashed himself on the head and arm and cut him self 8 times on 1 arm through tendons and 4 times on the other and put a plastic bag over his head and then sprayed blood all over the walls. I'm pretty sure they don't even mention the bruise on his head in this
@@jeffreywentzell9803 i kept wondering about that too, why did they gloss over the fact that its impossible to kill yourself that way, well at least according to the first episode. i wonder if they were just worried about their lives and wanted to end it more open ended.
My only question with all of this is why didn’t they just kill off the Hamiltons from the beginning and take the software that way? Danny would’ve never got involved had William not sued the DOJ in the first place and even after they sued, why didn’t they just pay the 6.8 million to make it go away? What if and just hear me out. What if the Hamiltons created the trap door from the beginning and found out that the DOJ was making way more money off of it than them and they sued? At that point the DOJ can’t kill them because they’re the only ones who can create the trap doors and they can’t settle in court because then they’d be admitting they did what William said they were doing. So instead they recruit Michael to make his own trap doors and just wait out the Hamiltons in court, which obviously worked. Idk man none of it makes sense. Like why is Micheal still alive?!! They can easily get to him in prison to kill him especially 30 years ago. Why keep a guy that knows that much alive? Idk….I’m taking my tin foil hat off now 😂😂
I like the doc but they leave it so “you might be a little crazy if you believe Danny didn’t killed himself”. Am I the only one? This stuff happened and people weren’t held accountable.
I think what they were going for at the end was that if one becomes to attached to a conspiracy they shouldn’t let it become their entire personality and consume their life. Although, I don’t think they were trying to make us feel crazy for the thinking Danny was murdered because they present an overwhelming amount of evidence that he was. In other words, it’s okay to find connections between a conspiracy (because in this case there definitely are connections) but don’t let it become all you think about.
@@MasonGoodwin-es4cp Plus from what I saw on another podcast, they emphasize that Danny may have killed himself, but he did uncover stuff that really illustrates a larger theme, the privatization of national security/intelligence and it's ramifications.
The story becomes that these two see beyond the conspiracies and though it is fascinating the way they stand up at the end is truly remarkable and inspiring. Thanks guys!
Just watched Netflix show on this def very interesting & it wouldn’t surprise me if most of it was true or def had kernels of truth in most of it. Thanks 4 making the video & gods bless every1.
I've a copy of Dark Alliance which I read way back when. Used copy's are going for a hundred bucks. It's important not to forget Danny Casolaro . Thanks for keeping the subject Alive.
I just finished watching The Netflix doc great work i must say. However i feel like Danny will never get justice due to the complexity in nature of this case. Unless someone a whistle blower from the government within expose something related to this scandal any trial in judiciary will only result in more deaths of lead investigators. RIP Danny we appreciate your bravery.
If you don't think its a organization of people that's above the law, you are crazy fr. We see it in a small level with the police use your imagination
In the USA, there are 4 ‘official’ independent branches of government. Over time, the National Security State has not been held in ‘check’ by the other three branches of government. In 1889, the US Congress - by one vote - formed a second collateral government: the National Security State: A fourth Branch of Government! The primary objective of the unelected National Security State is to influence - both overtly and covertly - world nations, (some might refer to this as world hegemony). Shortly thereafter, the Supreme Court affirmed or ratified its formation (vote 5-4). Ironically, the Chief Justice on that case forged the PLESSY. v. FERGUSON case - a case that essentially said some people are more valuable, more protected, and have more rights than others. Therefore, it was not a large stretch for this Chief Justice in this case to concede that some countries were worth more than others. Over the years, the democratically elected government has always deferred to the National Security State. So, when investigating the Contra Cocaine Train, the National Security State overruled prosecution. Same for the matters of Epstein/Maxwell (making available the many black books hard drives and government run pedophile train); etc. When pertinent questions are asked in a Senate hearing the National Security State shuts down the query by invoking COG (Continuity of Government). You can see this time and time again beginning during the Contra Cocaine Train inquires by the Senate. The founding fathers were earnest in saying that the USA should trade with all, but never to entangle itself in the political or military business of other nations. By the late 1890s however, elements of the country fought to form the National Security State whose intention was imperialism: which is to have wars all over the globe for profit. An anti-imperialist league of many powerful men attempted to fight them. But big banks greased the wheels of the legislatures and Supreme Court and that was that...! Even Mark Twain spoke out against it. Soon the USA had its armies around the world stealing on behalf of the Brown Banking Brothers, later Untied Fruit Company, Preston Bush's bank, and so on.
Very well said . Isnt it frustrating to see the brainwashing of fellow Americans to the reality of life . I gave them examples an extremely short list but well known JFK lone gunman Zapruder Bush : Bay of Pigs Vietnam Gulf of Tonkin, RFK control . WTC Dustified Boxcutters , PNAC Ramsey Clark , WMDs Imminent danger Epstein murder, etc etc nope, nothing to see here .move along I'll see you more untested vaccines . the Kool aid is delicious . the stupidity overwhelming
@@jodybeskinirutherfordcoanimal I am extremely grateful for your compliment. So what is the solution? My mother was a fighter. I was a fighter... What uselessness that turned out to be. I finally voted with my feet and left the USA all together. Best decision of my life. Peace and blessings from Nature Island
@@sugarpuddin The only solution is to return America to the Constitutional republic it was designed to be,, if we don't restore the checks & balances or we are going into a very dark night of enslavement by the Collectivist Cabal. GE Griffin points out how deep the Conspiracy for World Government goes, as did Myron Fagan in the 1960's.
I would have like to see some tougher questions about Cuellar, what the consensus was among the journalists interviewed in documentary about whether Danny was murdered or commiteed suicide. Would have been great to go deeper on Nichols. Overall good interview and documentary.
This is a well-made documentary on an objectively interesting topic. As several reviewers have already alluded to, there are a suspicious amount of extremely low scores on IMDB here that tell their own story. The core accusation is that the American government seized on an opportunity to gain an advantage over their rivals via an emergent technology. To me, this is a perfectly plausible scenario. And I’m not here to cast judgement on the legality or morality of subsequent events. Purely looking at it from a self-preservation perspective, what’s most likely to have occurred here is quite a smart move from the American government. And this kind of manoeuvre is something that many governments around the world would be happy to try their hand at if given the opportunity. All governments would be prepared to bend the rules a bit if they think they can improve the prospects of their own citizens. That’s just a fact of life. But for me, the clear elephant in the room is the circumstance of Danny Casolaro’s death. Anyone with more than half a brain cell can see that Casolaro did not commit suicide of his own volition. The shortcomings in the investigation into his death are simply laughable. The witness statements of a separate individual with brown hair entering his room on the night of his death. The fact that one of the chief suspects provided two significantly different alibis that was then never questioned. You don’t have to be Albert Einstein to work out what’s gone on here. Over time it seems that many of the individuals involved in this debacle have slowly passed away. As a result, it’s starting to become slightly less important if the truth outs. Twenty years ago, I think the stakes were a lot higher, and that’s why some of the people involved mysteriously went missing or conveniently died. But for the remaining individuals who are still embroiled in this cover-up, the tactics have had to change. If the documentary maker somehow died on this occasion, it would just be too blatant. So we are now in a situation where they’ve had to allow this documentary to be produced, but they will instead try to undermine its credibility. And on a completely unrelated note, I’d like to draw your attention back to the suspiciously low review scores I initially mentioned.
How did they not get another independent autopsy? Think of this. Multiple deep cuts are made into your arm near the wrist. How can you now pick up the razor blade with that hand on the injured side and make deep cuts on your other arm? This does not make sense at all.
He was embalmed right after the autopsy without the family’s knowledge or permission. Even if they did a second autopsy it wouldn’t be accurate because of the embalming. Danny’s brother talks about it as well.
The fact that BOTH these guys are still alive kinda ruins the whole doc. Also Christian said they never even got threatened. It seems to me like if there is a secret evil organization that they would do something when a Netflix documentary is filming. They allegedly took out a guy who couldn't even get published but they'll let these guys air this all on Netflix?
Wow. Was that six months ago? Time flies. Yes. That was the most obvious case I've ever seen. Even the news reader didn't believe it when I saw the news report. They are not even subtle anymore.
@@joncarlyle7260last I checked yet - Douglas Valentine has recent interviews on youtube about his "Pisces Moon" book - it's newly published and an awesome read! First-hand testimony of his personal interviews with CIA drug smugglers living in IndoChina. Douglas Valentine had written this military memoir about his dad in WWII - and somehow Douglas Valentine befriended a high level CIA officer - and thus Douglas Valentine wrote books on Operation Phoenix with the CIA hoping to clear their "conscience" so to speak. This further lead to Douglas Valentine getting this CIA drug smuggling connections.
Nust watched the last episode. My copy of the book is still sealed/unread (ran off the whole thing at the library). Getting the book way back when was a mini conspiracy in itself. Somebody didn't want the book being read. The documentary added info from the book and at least keeps the story alive. I'm sure "they" hate that.
Makes me wonder how much software we were creating in highschool in the 80's. We worked in DOS creating code and a ton of data processing. Out of nowhere a computer lab showed up with 15 to 20 computers. It was life changing when HTML came out. Especially for trap doors. Why we were coding trap doors in highschool computer labs, I don't know.
waw i arrived to Usa for studyng english sep 1991 in Phili and no idea about this case!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant believe it, i didnt watch tv, i was in a homestay so thats why i didnt know it!!! propably on tv they were talking about this case all the time! i am in shock!
For those in the know - Michael's relationship to "Anita" is extremely dubious. And you'd be a fool to think his release from jail and the production of this documentary is co-incidental.
Does anyone know what Robert Booth Nichols showed Michael Riconosciuto in Alice Springs, Australia that disgusted him so much that he wanted nothing to do with Nichols? I am guessing it was the Pine Hills installation - but I am curious as to what disgusted Michael so much (capabilities, experiments, etc)?
Yes - his knowledge also of CHIPS and SWIFT in relation to global liquidity movement was also super impressive if you read the manuscript called 'The Circle' which I think this doc was partially based on. And the game as they call it is an information one, meaning there is truth in why he fell out with Nichols and I am guessing its tied to the narrative concerning location. Also Nichols seemed interested in getting folks to travel - would like to know if Pine Gap was on the itinerary. As a former 35D - that spot was a NSA spot with massive headcount - associated with info risk, curious as to what else they got up to in relation to cut outs and 'the company'. @@mattgilbert7347
My reply was removed - but yes, would love to know what bothered him so much, as many of us with intel backgrounds know of the location (no direct knowledge). @@mattgilbert7347
Who knows and who cares? I mean if you're on the Riconosciuto truth train I think you might never get off. It was disgusting how much time they focused on him in this series
I don't believe he committed suicide due to the circumstances involved and the death threats he had already received. I watched all the episodes and I remember him telling his brother that he
I really dislike the word “conspiracy “ because over the past 35 years that I’ve researched stuff I’ve found it more to be true then flight of fancy from paranoid people.
John Foster Dulles son converted to Catholicism and became a priest. The brothers were very Waspy and John was not pleased about his son's choice, from what I understand.
Great documentary. How crazy it was that while I was watching this, I realized that I dated one of these guys and am glad I was not with them for long!
Kind of amazing to see what passes for awesome work. I enjoyed the series, it was entertaining. That's where it ends. Awesome story, great entertainment, doesn't prove anything, doesn't solve anything, doesn't separate fact from disimformation. You can't tell me what PROMIS actually did, and while arpanet had some international connections from 1969, none of that detasil is explained. It is a wide spreading conspiracy from the murder of JFK to Chemical Weapons, to the drug trade? Connecting some disparate dots while never explaining what PROMIS actually did. Answer this, what connections did PROMIS actually make in a time of an extremely limited digital archive? It would be entirely more believeable if you answered the original question the series actually asked. The records referenced in the entire series are paper files, how exactly did early 1980's pre-internet connect those things together? Again I enjoyed the story, but that is what it is, a story.
I wanted to like the doc but couldn't get through tbe first episode. I love true crime, investigativd journalism and salacious news, but this was so dry.
You know...this host just seems to be laughing and mocking these guys with his skeptic perspective! I hate people who right from the beginning don't take anything being presented seriously or at least try and see and determine the overall info being presented. Right away they like he...are so quick to put in their judgement even when its not them who have done no research to prove his own judgements! This is typical for the masses though considering a lifetime of programming and being raised by Americas so called education system. Luckily there are those that are able to see past the BS they have been taught to believe! These two fellows are very smart individuals and I think they are worth listening too not laugh at them like this guy is doing and making all these snooty comments about how they started their research and laughing as they give their answers. His facial expressions to what these two are explaining is as though no matter what these two say, he automatically rejects it as like to say "they can't convince me with this theory" and by all means...we all know...he can't be convinced for how could he? I mean America is walking around with evidence hidden in plain sight and yet there is more and more people like this guy...COMPLETELY CLULESS yet so quick to judge those who seem to have a way clearer understanding about our super sketchy and dishonest system! If you don't believe in people's "so called theories" then don't invite them to just so you can secretly ridicule them! It's not like you know any info to discredit them but still so quick to make others look like they need a mental health check. I am surprised he only has 12.9k subscribers. With all the dummies out there running around so clueless and all you would think he'd have more dumb subscribers!!!! LMAO!!!! WHAT???????
I haven’t watch the movie, read a book or heard facts surrounding the octopus murders story! It’s my first inclination that this is going to be a Republican scandal of corruption! Am I right? well we’ll find out! lol
@@FactualAmericaPodcast the octopus murders were a Republican scandal involvement, George Bush, and his cohorts, disgusting that it goes on in our government! That our government was selling drugs to our own country nice!
The Netflix docuseries on this is disappointing. A lot of good information in it. Spread wide over 4 episodes needlessly. Organised in a frustrating way. Some thin speculation in there. Disappointing overall
I FOUND an EVEN BIGGER extent of the "🐙"!! Ironically, Danny died on the date of MY BIRTHDAY... August 10 (1991) at which time I turned 26. IF you hear ANYTHING happened to ME, it WASN'T suicide OR an "accident"!! 😎
This was a nothing burger of a documentary. More about this guys wasted life being toyed with, not Danny but Christian. Poor wokester got played. I wasted 4 hrs watching, there is NO surprise! I repeat this is a film of mental illness on all levels, including the filmmaker and the execs at Netflix, who signed this mockumentary.
You dont buy it? Did you forget the cops who believed it? The brutal murders? Those are facts/ evidence. The surprise to me is that you did not see any connection . Just as you probably believe LHO by himself did the deed back in '63 and Epstein committed suicide. Time to grow up kid .
the surprise is Joe Cuellar is exposed as the most likely murderer and not surprisingly all the corporate "reviews" do not mention this most important fact exposed of the documentary.
Honestly, it reminded me of that whole QAnon thing. I did look into it at some point and it seemed clear that it was some sort of ARG.. except with some elements of truth blended in just to keep people hooked.
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Kenn Thomas wrote the first book on Danny Casolaro and Kenn Thomas worked at University of Missouri-St. Louis Archives. That's why the Netflix doc GOES to the Missouri archives to get the Danny Casolaro research papers. Too bad Kenn Thomas didn't get thanked at the end of the Netflix doc. Kenn Thomas passed on last year! I corresponded with him via email off and on over 20 years.
How interesting!
interesting, so what was his final take on the whole thing?
I haven't seen the docuseries but I was told the other day by someone who saw it that Kenn Thomas wasn't cited or mentioned.
If this is true then it's wrong on their part.
In my recent article on the Octopus, I credit Thomas and cite his article on Casolaro & octopus for the Disinformation website.
I can't say I'm surprised though
@@writeralbertlanier3434thanks - turns out Kenn Thomas was citing Cheri Seymour in Thomas' book - yet for some reason misspelled her first name! Strange. Not just misspelled it but got it wrong. Anyway Trineday, the publisher of Cheri Seymour, just did a new podcast interview with Cheri Seymour and the two filmmakers of the Netflix American Conspiracy. So they really were relying on Cheri Seymour. She mentions in another radio interview how she also went to the University of Missouri archives to get Danny's research notes - yet again NO mention of Kenn Thomas! So yes I think there was some competitive turf dynamics going on. Let's face it - there's only a few conspiracy "publishers" - and it's a small "market" for "sales." hahaha. Cheri Seymour's first book was self-published. So I can see why she would be very protective of her research. So yeah Kenn Thomas unjustly got left out - but I think that maybe started with Cheri Seymour and it was just repeated by the Netflix film makers who relied on Cheri as their main source... I should see if Cheri's book cites Kenn Thomas at all.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
The impression l get is that the filmmakers of the docuseries are pretty much ignoring anyone else who actually researched, looked into and did the work on this subject before their doc.
I researched Inslaw, Promis and Danny in 2010. I was interviewed on a podcast in March of 2010 called Media Monarchy about this for 2 1/2 hours. I gather this was before both the guys behind the Netflix doc got on to this.
It strikes me as a way for them to colonize and appropriate Casolaro/ octopus/ Promis for themselves
The fact that Kenn Thomas as well as his co writer Jim.Keith who came out with a book.about Danny and the Octopus in the 1990s are rendered invisible lends support to this.
It's the kiss off for those of us who examined this previously I guess.
This Documentary is the most impressive piece of Journalism I've seen in a long while. Going for a re-watch!
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I've been going down the rabbithole since I watched the series last night! Already shared it to all my friends and family.
No it wasn't if it was they would of knew the guy committed suicide all of them
Yes, completely agree! I will have to re-watch it again.
Excellent documentary. Everyone needs to watch this. Share!
The police officer who found the reporter said the tendons in both arms had been cut about eight times, so deep that the hands could barely hold on. The reporter could cut all the tendons on one hand, but he would not be able to cut the second hand, because it is impossible to hold anything in the hand with the tendons cut. It couldn't be suicide.
Absolutely. This right here is the biggest reason to suspect murder. It is so apparent. Somehow they don’t question this.
I totally agree but they insist to not address the FACT !
A LOt of whistleblowers are “Suicided” and A LOt of high profile HITS. member the Coroner is the only one with the power to make certain there will be No Investigation. Unless the family hires a Private Investigator & can afford a Private Autopsy which very few victims can.
@@dianna266 They were bribed.
@@Roylamx I agree. Paid off. Nobody can be that stupid.
The documentary was fantastic. True mastery of an infinitely complex conspiracy. These guys are next level. Had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. I love the ending how he realizes everyone is essentially pretty mentally ill. Doesn't mean it didn't happen. Truly brilliant filmmakers. Zack and Christian should be very proud of this release.
Thanks for the support, happy to hear you enjoyed!
Love your content - could you by any chance ask the film makers to get Michael Riconosciuto on Shawn Ryan or JREs podcast? Especially Shawn's given his background, thanks. @@FactualAmericaPodcast
I can’t help wondering if it’s a self preservation tactic. Their way of saying we really don’t believe any of this BS even though they probably do.
@@ChiIIerClan Yeah it seems ppl who knew of this case before aren't that happy. Ppl who learned for the first time think its wonderful. It certainly appears to me to do a great job of discrediting Danny and make it seem a lot more plausible than he just went crazy and bashed himself on the head and arm and cut him self 8 times on 1 arm through tendons and 4 times on the other and put a plastic bag over his head and then sprayed blood all over the walls. I'm pretty sure they don't even mention the bruise on his head in this
@@jeffreywentzell9803 i kept wondering about that too, why did they gloss over the fact that its impossible to kill yourself that way, well at least according to the first episode. i wonder if they were just worried about their lives and wanted to end it more open ended.
My only question with all of this is why didn’t they just kill off the Hamiltons from the beginning and take the software that way? Danny would’ve never got involved had William not sued the DOJ in the first place and even after they sued, why didn’t they just pay the 6.8 million to make it go away? What if and just hear me out. What if the Hamiltons created the trap door from the beginning and found out that the DOJ was making way more money off of it than them and they sued? At that point the DOJ can’t kill them because they’re the only ones who can create the trap doors and they can’t settle in court because then they’d be admitting they did what William said they were doing. So instead they recruit Michael to make his own trap doors and just wait out the Hamiltons in court, which obviously worked. Idk man none of it makes sense. Like why is Micheal still alive?!! They can easily get to him in prison to kill him especially 30 years ago. Why keep a guy that knows that much alive? Idk….I’m taking my tin foil hat off now 😂😂
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Remember who mikes father is. Should answer your question. But regards to bill I think you’re absolutely onto something.
I went and watched and was amazed! Great watch! Im always looking for a good docuseries !
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Great journalism by all parties involved thanks for sharing this information
Much appreciated - thanks so much for watching!
Loved the documentary and this interview.
So glad you enjoyed it - thanks for watching!
Gary Webb...Michael Hastings
or, in the theme of protecting killer informants: possibly the 2011 Waltham murderers
Where can I find more research on Michael Hastings death
when i heard about this, i thought it was gonna be about webb. i wish it woulda been, that'd be a great doc as well.
@@randyintl3889good luck
yep
I like the doc but they leave it so “you might be a little crazy if you believe Danny didn’t killed himself”. Am I the only one?
This stuff happened and people weren’t held accountable.
I think what they were going for at the end was that if one becomes to attached to a conspiracy they shouldn’t let it become their entire personality and consume their life. Although, I don’t think they were trying to make us feel crazy for the thinking Danny was murdered because they present an overwhelming amount of evidence that he was. In other words, it’s okay to find connections between a conspiracy (because in this case there definitely are connections) but don’t let it become all you think about.
@@MasonGoodwin-es4cp Plus from what I saw on another podcast, they emphasize that Danny may have killed himself, but he did uncover stuff that really illustrates a larger theme, the privatization of national security/intelligence and it's ramifications.
He didn't kill himself.
@@ileanahernandez1709 I agree
He definitely didn't kill himself.
The story becomes that these two see beyond the conspiracies and though it is fascinating the way they stand up at the end is truly remarkable and inspiring. Thanks guys!
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Just watched Netflix show on this def very interesting & it wouldn’t surprise me if most of it was true or def had kernels of truth in most of it. Thanks 4 making the video & gods bless every1.
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I've a copy of Dark Alliance which I read way back when. Used copy's are going for a hundred bucks. It's important not to forget Danny Casolaro . Thanks for keeping the subject Alive.
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R.I.P. TO MR. DANNY CASOLARO. GETTING CLOSE TO THE TRUTH ! ONE'S LIFE SNUFFED ! FROM, U.K. (2024).
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I watched this today & it was mind blowing to say the least. Waiting on season 2.
I just finished watching The Netflix doc great work i must say. However i feel like Danny will never get justice due to the complexity in nature of this case. Unless someone a whistle blower from the government within expose something related to this scandal any trial in judiciary will only result in more deaths of lead investigators. RIP Danny we appreciate your bravery.
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This has been the most interesting story to me for at least 20 years
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If you don't think its a organization of people that's above the law, you are crazy fr. We see it in a small level with the police use your imagination
Well stated - thank you for your comments
In the USA, there are 4 ‘official’ independent branches of government. Over time, the National Security State has not been held in ‘check’ by the other three branches of government.
In 1889, the US Congress - by one vote - formed a second collateral government: the National Security State: A fourth Branch of Government!
The primary objective of the unelected National Security State is to influence - both overtly and covertly - world nations, (some might refer to this as world hegemony).
Shortly thereafter, the Supreme Court affirmed or ratified its formation (vote 5-4). Ironically, the Chief Justice on that case forged the PLESSY. v. FERGUSON case - a case that essentially said some people are more valuable, more protected, and have more rights than others. Therefore, it was not a large stretch for this Chief Justice in this case to concede that some countries were worth more than others.
Over the years, the democratically elected government has always deferred to the National Security State. So, when investigating the Contra Cocaine Train, the National Security State overruled prosecution. Same for the matters of Epstein/Maxwell (making available the many black books hard drives and government run pedophile train); etc. When pertinent questions are asked in a Senate hearing the National Security State shuts down the query by invoking COG (Continuity of Government). You can see this time and time again beginning during the Contra Cocaine Train inquires by the Senate.
The founding fathers were earnest in saying that the USA should trade with all, but never to entangle itself in the political or military business of other nations.
By the late 1890s however, elements of the country fought to form the National Security State whose intention was imperialism: which is to have wars all over the globe for profit. An anti-imperialist league of many powerful men attempted to fight them. But big banks greased the wheels of the legislatures and Supreme Court and that was that...! Even Mark Twain spoke out against it.
Soon the USA had its armies around the world stealing on behalf of the Brown Banking Brothers, later Untied Fruit Company, Preston Bush's bank, and so on.
Very well said . Isnt it frustrating to see the brainwashing of fellow Americans to the reality of life . I gave them examples an extremely short list but well known JFK lone gunman Zapruder Bush : Bay of Pigs Vietnam Gulf of Tonkin, RFK control . WTC Dustified Boxcutters , PNAC Ramsey Clark , WMDs Imminent danger Epstein murder, etc etc nope, nothing to see here .move along I'll see you more untested vaccines . the Kool aid is delicious . the stupidity overwhelming
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@sugarpuddin, you have amazing wisdom into the "other" dark sides of all these guys "who golf together". McAfee is another story to be covered.
@@jodybeskinirutherfordcoanimal I am extremely grateful for your compliment.
So what is the solution?
My mother was a fighter. I was a fighter... What uselessness that turned out to be. I finally voted with my feet and left the USA all together. Best decision of my life.
Peace and blessings from Nature Island
@@sugarpuddin The only solution is to return America to the Constitutional republic it was designed to be,, if we don't restore the checks & balances or we are going into a very dark night of enslavement by the Collectivist Cabal. GE Griffin points out how deep the Conspiracy for World Government goes, as did Myron Fagan in the 1960's.
Has anyone ever evaluated the note left by Danny? If it's his own handwriting? Is there a possibility that the note was forged?
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That’s exactly what I said there’s so many things to this
that's exactly what I was thinking
I asked this very same question
I would have like to see some tougher questions about Cuellar, what the consensus was among the journalists interviewed in documentary about whether Danny was murdered or commiteed suicide. Would have been great to go deeper on Nichols. Overall good interview and documentary.
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Great doc! Miss those old school Machiavellian shadow people
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I want a BCCI documentary
Netflix has a great documentary on it
Have you read Whitney Webb's book "One Nation Under Blackmail"? That is Vol. 1 (500 pages) and there is also a Vol. 2
This is a well-made documentary on an objectively interesting topic. As several reviewers have already alluded to, there are a suspicious amount of extremely low scores on IMDB here that tell their own story.
The core accusation is that the American government seized on an opportunity to gain an advantage over their rivals via an emergent technology. To me, this is a perfectly plausible scenario. And I’m not here to cast judgement on the legality or morality of subsequent events.
Purely looking at it from a self-preservation perspective, what’s most likely to have occurred here is quite a smart move from the American government. And this kind of manoeuvre is something that many governments around the world would be happy to try their hand at if given the opportunity. All governments would be prepared to bend the rules a bit if they think they can improve the prospects of their own citizens. That’s just a fact of life.
But for me, the clear elephant in the room is the circumstance of Danny Casolaro’s death. Anyone with more than half a brain cell can see that Casolaro did not commit suicide of his own volition.
The shortcomings in the investigation into his death are simply laughable. The witness statements of a separate individual with brown hair entering his room on the night of his death. The fact that one of the chief suspects provided two significantly different alibis that was then never questioned. You don’t have to be Albert Einstein to work out what’s gone on here.
Over time it seems that many of the individuals involved in this debacle have slowly passed away. As a result, it’s starting to become slightly less important if the truth outs. Twenty years ago, I think the stakes were a lot higher, and that’s why some of the people involved mysteriously went missing or conveniently died.
But for the remaining individuals who are still embroiled in this cover-up, the tactics have had to change. If the documentary maker somehow died on this occasion, it would just be too blatant. So we are now in a situation where they’ve had to allow this documentary to be produced, but they will instead try to undermine its credibility. And on a completely unrelated note, I’d like to draw your attention back to the suspiciously low review scores I initially mentioned.
How did they not get another independent autopsy?
Think of this. Multiple deep cuts are made into your arm near the wrist.
How can you now pick up the razor blade with that hand on the injured side and make deep cuts on your other arm? This does not make sense at all.
glow doc
He was embalmed right after the autopsy without the family’s knowledge or permission. Even if they did a second autopsy it wouldn’t be accurate because of the embalming. Danny’s brother talks about it as well.
Great point!
The fact that BOTH these guys are still alive kinda ruins the whole doc. Also Christian said they never even got threatened. It seems to me like if there is a secret evil organization that they would do something when a Netflix documentary is filming. They allegedly took out a guy who couldn't even get published but they'll let these guys air this all on Netflix?
Different times I guess. The ‘informants’ are still playing playing a good game between leads and bullsh*t.
A lot of the original players are dead.
A lot more of people getting killed these days too. The journalist in Ukraine and the dude that just retired from Boeing and was a whistleblower.
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Wow. Was that six months ago?
Time flies.
Yes. That was the most obvious case I've ever seen. Even the news reader didn't believe it when I saw the news report. They are not even subtle anymore.
I have to wonder how this is allowed to be discussed in the open. Surely there is danger even now, I would think.
Absolutely
The part about the JFK assassination is a trip
Interview Douglas Valentine if you want firsthand info on CIA drug smuggling
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Is he still alive?
@@joncarlyle7260last I checked yet - Douglas Valentine has recent interviews on youtube about his "Pisces Moon" book - it's newly published and an awesome read! First-hand testimony of his personal interviews with CIA drug smugglers living in IndoChina. Douglas Valentine had written this military memoir about his dad in WWII - and somehow Douglas Valentine befriended a high level CIA officer - and thus Douglas Valentine wrote books on Operation Phoenix with the CIA hoping to clear their "conscience" so to speak. This further lead to Douglas Valentine getting this CIA drug smuggling connections.
I wanna know Joe Cuellars involvement in all of this
They talked to his son, must be dead right
He's on Facebook his profile pic is a parrot
The part about hostages in Iran is garbage. Jimmy Carter was the worst president we ever had and there was no way he would win reelection.
Still strange they were released within hours…
Nust watched the last episode. My copy of the book is still sealed/unread (ran off the whole thing at the library).
Getting the book way back when was a mini conspiracy in itself. Somebody didn't want the book being read.
The documentary added info from the book and at least keeps the story alive.
I'm sure "they" hate that.
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Makes me wonder how much software we were creating in highschool in the 80's. We worked in DOS creating code and a ton of data processing. Out of nowhere a computer lab showed up with 15 to 20 computers. It was life changing when HTML came out. Especially for trap doors.
Why we were coding trap doors in highschool computer labs, I don't know.
Great point!
It's all about to come out. People are gonna need to find a conspiracy person to explain it all. 😂
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Dave Emory was talking about this on KFJC-FM in the bay area back the mid 80s
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We need Whitney Webb on the scene !
Great addition!
What is the sound at 35:53 / 35:54? It sounds strange.
He has a parrot or something
The octopus.... hmmm Hydra from marvel
I was thinking Spectre from the Bond movies 😂
the books and movies have been trying to tell us all along 😂
waw i arrived to Usa for studyng english sep 1991 in Phili and no idea about this case!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant believe it, i didnt watch tv, i was in a homestay so thats why i didnt know it!!! propably on tv they were talking about this case all the time! i am in shock!
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For those in the know - Michael's relationship to "Anita" is extremely dubious. And you'd be a fool to think his release from jail and the production of this documentary is co-incidental.
We get to see the faces of the killers who got away with multiple murders.
Also what happened to Seth Rich!!
So did Danny slash up his arms with bag on his head or not?
Danny was caught up and a real life movie
I used to own the Octopus book. Many of the dots didnt really connect. Undoubtedly he met some very shady people
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Honestly, it seems like you look into something long enough, a person can make all kinds of connections. Doesn't make it true.
Did you listen to Michael? What did he sayyy?
Does anyone know what Robert Booth Nichols showed Michael Riconosciuto in Alice Springs, Australia that disgusted him so much that he wanted nothing to do with Nichols? I am guessing it was the Pine Hills installation - but I am curious as to what disgusted Michael so much (capabilities, experiments, etc)?
You mean Pine Gap?
Yes - his knowledge also of CHIPS and SWIFT in relation to global liquidity movement was also super impressive if you read the manuscript called 'The Circle' which I think this doc was partially based on. And the game as they call it is an information one, meaning there is truth in why he fell out with Nichols and I am guessing its tied to the narrative concerning location. Also Nichols seemed interested in getting folks to travel - would like to know if Pine Gap was on the itinerary. As a former 35D - that spot was a NSA spot with massive headcount - associated with info risk, curious as to what else they got up to in relation to cut outs and 'the company'. @@mattgilbert7347
My reply was removed - but yes, would love to know what bothered him so much, as many of us with intel backgrounds know of the location (no direct knowledge). @@mattgilbert7347
Yes @@mattgilbert7347
Who knows and who cares? I mean if you're on the Riconosciuto truth train I think you might never get off. It was disgusting how much time they focused on him in this series
anybody know where he got that sweater?
@factualamericanpodcast
Question for the guy who worked at The New York Times:
Have you read The Gray Lady Winked?
Where did mosaad come into this story ? How come no mention of their involvement.
Did Kenn Thomas die of old age, was he hung on a door knob, or suicided in some other way?
Just watched 2 of them. It had a lot going on. Reminded me of the documentary about zero point energy. All these people just wind up suicided
I don't believe he committed suicide due to the circumstances involved and the death threats he had already received. I watched all the episodes and I remember him telling his brother that he
If something happened it would be a lie remember if in this world nothing is what it seems
Definitely made me think if Garey Webb , difference is
Garey Webb exposed as soon as he got the information.
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I really dislike the word “conspiracy “ because over the past 35 years that I’ve researched stuff I’ve found it more to be true then flight of fancy from paranoid people.
Good point
John Foster Dulles son converted to Catholicism and became a priest. The brothers were very Waspy and John was not pleased about his son's choice, from what I understand.
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Why doesnt Danny have a trove of computer write-ups?
Great documentary. How crazy it was that while I was watching this, I realized that I dated one of these guys and am glad I was not with them for long!
Wow! Thanks for sharing - and for watching!
Which one?
Can I contact you please
Kind of amazing to see what passes for awesome work. I enjoyed the series, it was entertaining. That's where it ends. Awesome story, great entertainment, doesn't prove anything, doesn't solve anything, doesn't separate fact from disimformation. You can't tell me what PROMIS actually did, and while arpanet had some international connections from 1969, none of that detasil is explained. It is a wide spreading conspiracy from the murder of JFK to Chemical Weapons, to the drug trade? Connecting some disparate dots while never explaining what PROMIS actually did. Answer this, what connections did PROMIS actually make in a time of an extremely limited digital archive? It would be entirely more believeable if you answered the original question the series actually asked. The records referenced in the entire series are paper files, how exactly did early 1980's pre-internet connect those things together? Again I enjoyed the story, but that is what it is, a story.
Was also hoping to have some clear overview with what facts and what’s not…
Whitney Webb writes about PROMIS in her book "One Nation Under Blackmail".
@@jenny0184 I will read it, thanks for the suggestion!
Two words: Israeli Intelligence.
B-I-N-G-O
If so, did they kill Danny?
Christian looks quite a bit like Jeff Tweedy.
They are called
Gray Space Operators
You ever hear of the Black Army?
Rocha said this was good..Knicks vs pacer 😂
Christian does look alot like Danny !
There is one part of the octopus that went under the radar....the Bluegrass Conspiracy
Spectre!
I wanted to like the doc but couldn't get through tbe first episode. I love true crime, investigativd journalism and salacious news, but this was so dry.
Rip Danny ❤
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Who really killed Chondra Levy!
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So the illumanti?
Spectre
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Sons of Sam called Octopus...ok..lol
But people trust the government.
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Just so EVERYONE know the guy kill himself Sorry.
I exposed the big secret.
You know...this host just seems to be laughing and mocking these guys with his skeptic perspective! I hate people who right from the beginning don't take anything being presented seriously or at least try and see and determine the overall info being presented. Right away they like he...are so quick to put in their judgement even when its not them who have done no research to prove his own judgements! This is typical for the masses though considering a lifetime of programming and being raised by Americas so called education system. Luckily there are those that are able to see past the BS they have been taught to believe! These two fellows are very smart individuals and I think they are worth listening too not laugh at them like this guy is doing and making all these snooty comments about how they started their research and laughing as they give their answers. His facial expressions to what these two are explaining is as though no matter what these two say, he automatically rejects it as like to say "they can't convince me with this theory" and by all means...we all know...he can't be convinced for how could he? I mean America is walking around with evidence hidden in plain sight and yet there is more and more people like this guy...COMPLETELY CLULESS yet so quick to judge those who seem to have a way clearer understanding about our super sketchy and dishonest system! If you don't believe in people's "so called theories" then don't invite them to just so you can secretly ridicule them! It's not like you know any info to discredit them but still so quick to make others look like they need a mental health check. I am surprised he only has 12.9k subscribers. With all the dummies out there running around so clueless and all you would think he'd have more dumb subscribers!!!! LMAO!!!! WHAT???????
We need Mae Brussell.
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Mum can vouch for me?
What's with all this age v investigative journalism?
Bit odd.
Write about anything you want
chill.. it was just banter!
WW brings b dubbyah light to too
I haven’t watch the movie, read a book or heard facts surrounding the octopus murders story! It’s my first inclination that this is going to be a Republican scandal of corruption! Am I right? well we’ll find out! lol
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@@FactualAmericaPodcast the octopus murders were a Republican scandal involvement, George Bush, and his cohorts, disgusting that it goes on in our government! That our government was selling drugs to our own country nice!
The Netflix docuseries on this is disappointing. A lot of good information in it. Spread wide over 4 episodes needlessly. Organised in a frustrating way. Some thin speculation in there. Disappointing overall
Seriously? The documentary was spectacular
You need to do your own research on the whole thing.
I FOUND an EVEN BIGGER extent of the "🐙"!!
Ironically, Danny died on the date of MY BIRTHDAY... August 10 (1991) at which time I turned 26. IF you hear ANYTHING happened to ME, it WASN'T suicide OR an "accident"!! 😎
This was a nothing burger of a documentary. More about this guys wasted life being toyed with, not Danny but Christian. Poor wokester got played. I wasted 4 hrs watching, there is NO surprise! I repeat this is a film of mental illness on all levels, including the filmmaker and the execs at Netflix, who signed this mockumentary.
You dont buy it? Did you forget the cops who believed it? The brutal murders? Those are facts/ evidence. The surprise to me is that you did not see any connection . Just as you probably believe LHO by himself did the deed back in '63 and Epstein committed suicide. Time to grow up kid .
Wtf my guy 🤣
I agree...just watched it...would make a great movie but not a factual documentary
the surprise is Joe Cuellar is exposed as the most likely murderer and not surprisingly all the corporate "reviews" do not mention this most important fact exposed of the documentary.
Honestly, it reminded me of that whole QAnon thing.
I did look into it at some point and it seemed clear that it was some sort of ARG.. except with some elements of truth blended in just to keep people hooked.