As a book coach, I agree. My role is to get people to write their legacy books. They often have problems that stop them from making progress. If I can not get them to focus more on their need for progress and allow them to remain stuck in their challenges, they will not realise their dreams.
Passive empathy os productive in cases. Not Instantaneously reaching deep and feeling the pain of others actively, but being able to be mindful. If you go around taking in all of the bad vibes people have, yes, you will burn out. If you can listen to their pain and through empathy help the person take off some layers of their suffering. If that makes any sense
Hey thanks. I do believe that empathy is both productive (and unavoidable in cases). For example, I went through a suicide connected to my family, I recently chatted to someone who went through the same, I was able to empathise with that person and feel to some extent what they ere feeling - this led to a productive discussion. I simply believe that there are potential pitfalls to this, and that empathy does not need to be, indeed should not be, our default mode. Compassion and understanding works just fine
Good take. I guess that's why the term tactical empathy was created. Its only about the focus on understanding the other person's perspective and viewpoints and not sharing feelings or emotions. Looking through that lens should only make your life easier.
Yeah, that's why I briefly touched on TE, but it feels like an unnecessary wrod play just so that "empathy" still works, even when it's no longer actually empathetic. Thanks loads for the perspective 👊💥
Despite your confidence, you absolutely HAVE mischaracterized what empathy is. It's not simply sharing in the feelings others are feeling, though that is often a strong catalyst of empathy. Empathy describes an understanding of anothet individuals experience. Not only is this how empathy is understood in a modern context, but the simplest of searches reveal this to be true. Your hyperbolic "broken leg" example fully misconstrues what it would mean to be empathetic in a way that very conveniently highlights your thesis. Hearing about or witnessing someone break their leg and subsequently feeling sadness or pity would be sympathy. However, relating to the way they felt through memories of breaking one of your own limbs would be empathy. The key distinction being that someone using empathy understand the feelings wheras someone using sympathy is bothered by the event independent of the recipients feelings on the matter. Invoking empathy is not the act of becoming an empath (which does necessitate the sharing of emotions). It's developing a deeper understanding of another's actions or circumstances. If you are going to present an essay denoting a misconception, it would show integrity to do more than five minutes of research.
Firstky, thanks loads for engaging. Here is what Merriam Webster says exactly on their page entitled "sympathy vs empathy": What is the difference between sympathy and empathy? Sympathy is a feeling of sincere concern for someone who is experiencing something difficult or painful. Empathy involves actively sharing in the person’s emotional experience. --- I have been researching this topic for months, the author of "against empathy", Paul Bloom, has been researching this for years, and the scientists cited in the video - I'm guessing you didn't get that far - have been researching it their entire career. I do believe that there is validity to your comment regarding modern context for sure though. My point is that words matter and just because people largely use a word incorrectly, doesn't mean that it is actually correct. Very happy to discuss this further, and I'll happily read anything that you have to share on the topic.
Here's what Merriam Webster states for searching "sympathy v empathy": The difference in meaning is usually explained with some variation of the following: sympathy is when you share the feelings of another; empathy is when you understand the feelings of another but do not necessarily share them. So no, you're a tool.
Here is the exact text copied from MW from their page entitled sympathy vs empathy: What is the difference between sympathy and empathy? Sympathy is a feeling of sincere concern for someone who is experiencing something difficult or painful. Empathy involves actively sharing in the person’s emotional experience. I think you'll find that it is you that is the tool.
"surgeons will go absolutely mental" 8:46 🤣🤣
As a book coach, I agree. My role is to get people to write their legacy books. They often have problems that stop them from making progress. If I can not get them to focus more on their need for progress and allow them to remain stuck in their challenges, they will not realise their dreams.
So stoked that this resonated Kim, I was taking a risk with this one :)
Passive empathy os productive in cases. Not Instantaneously reaching deep and feeling the pain of others actively, but being able to be mindful. If you go around taking in all of the bad vibes people have, yes, you will burn out. If you can listen to their pain and through empathy help the person take off some layers of their suffering.
If that makes any sense
Hey thanks. I do believe that empathy is both productive (and unavoidable in cases). For example, I went through a suicide connected to my family, I recently chatted to someone who went through the same, I was able to empathise with that person and feel to some extent what they ere feeling - this led to a productive discussion.
I simply believe that there are potential pitfalls to this, and that empathy does not need to be, indeed should not be, our default mode. Compassion and understanding works just fine
Do you agree or disagree?
Agree
Good take. I guess that's why the term tactical empathy was created. Its only about the focus on understanding the other person's perspective and viewpoints and not sharing feelings or emotions. Looking through that lens should only make your life easier.
Yeah, that's why I briefly touched on TE, but it feels like an unnecessary wrod play just so that "empathy" still works, even when it's no longer actually empathetic.
Thanks loads for the perspective 👊💥
For some reason, my original long winded commented was deleted...
Thankyou for this take, its helped.
Sorry your first comment didn't work - I'm a fan of long winded :) feel free to pop back and share any time 👊💥
Despite your confidence, you absolutely HAVE mischaracterized what empathy is. It's not simply sharing in the feelings others are feeling, though that is often a strong catalyst of empathy. Empathy describes an understanding of anothet individuals experience. Not only is this how empathy is understood in a modern context, but the simplest of searches reveal this to be true.
Your hyperbolic "broken leg" example fully misconstrues what it would mean to be empathetic in a way that very conveniently highlights your thesis. Hearing about or witnessing someone break their leg and subsequently feeling sadness or pity would be sympathy. However, relating to the way they felt through memories of breaking one of your own limbs would be empathy. The key distinction being that someone using empathy understand the feelings wheras someone using sympathy is bothered by the event independent of the recipients feelings on the matter.
Invoking empathy is not the act of becoming an empath (which does necessitate the sharing of emotions). It's developing a deeper understanding of another's actions or circumstances.
If you are going to present an essay denoting a misconception, it would show integrity to do more than five minutes of research.
Firstky, thanks loads for engaging.
Here is what Merriam Webster says exactly on their page entitled "sympathy vs empathy":
What is the difference between sympathy and empathy?
Sympathy is a feeling of sincere concern for someone who is experiencing something difficult or painful. Empathy involves actively sharing in the person’s emotional experience.
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I have been researching this topic for months, the author of "against empathy", Paul Bloom, has been researching this for years, and the scientists cited in the video - I'm guessing you didn't get that far - have been researching it their entire career.
I do believe that there is validity to your comment regarding modern context for sure though. My point is that words matter and just because people largely use a word incorrectly, doesn't mean that it is actually correct.
Very happy to discuss this further, and I'll happily read anything that you have to share on the topic.
Accurate and nuanced, following for more content like this
Man! Where are the podcast police when you need them. Sigh...
What does that even mean?
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*standing ovation*
Thanks loads Haley :)
Here's what Merriam Webster states for searching "sympathy v empathy":
The difference in meaning is usually explained with some variation of the following: sympathy is when you share the feelings of another; empathy is when you understand the feelings of another but do not necessarily share them.
So no, you're a tool.
Here is the exact text copied from MW from their page entitled sympathy vs empathy:
What is the difference between sympathy and empathy?
Sympathy is a feeling of sincere concern for someone who is experiencing something difficult or painful. Empathy involves actively sharing in the person’s emotional experience.
I think you'll find that it is you that is the tool.