@@ayeayroncali6977 Strange how @endtimesareuponus8930 didn't attempt to answer your question. This kind of commenter always resorts to character assassination and bomb throwing when he or she has no reputable evidence or argument to put forward.
The question for those who deny God's sovereignty in election, must be why are you not telling every person you meet....the Gospel message? Because if they are only waiting for you to offer Jesus Christ to them, and you fail to do this, then you must be sending them to hell by your laziness or carelessness. Now that would be monstrous! When I joined a sound church that taught God's sovereignty, and was busier in evangelism than I had ever known, everything fell into place. I believe John MacArthurs words hit the nail on the head, when he said we need to submit to God's word. Obviously we cannot understand everything God does, but it brings enormous peace to simply accept. Submit. I would be interested to hear a preacher who does not accept the total sovereignty of Almighty God...refute all the scriptures that Pastor John so faithfully expounded. Disprove them one by one, it cannot be done. Thankyou Pastor John.
Are you mental or brain washed. Election. So what happened with free will. God choose you, and his elect cannot refuse. Bottom line you know nothing about the Bible. Simple question is jesus god? According to your super hero he is not.
God called me out of darkness one evening laying in bed with my husband. I ended up in a drug rehab because my family thought I'd done drugs they had to release me after seeing I was not on drugs then I ended up in a mental hospital because they said I was taking the God thing to serious. It's been a long road but I'm more blessed the ever and thankful for his calling
A religious conversion *does* have a very drug-like quality; I’ve had a couple. This is part of the reason many rehab programs will deliberately induce them. Cool thing is, it doesn’t necessarily matter what you are converted into. It just needs to be big enough to subsume all your worldly concerns.
Barbara Rehfuss Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
@@uncasunga1800 Perhaps, but I never hear you folks describe anything that isn't perfectly mundane. Most likely, it only appears extraordinary to people who, living in a small world, lack a basis for comparison. It is rather depressing to witness this, knowing what is probably really going on.
This is an excellent sermon. John McCarthur is one of the best pastors out there. He has taught me a lot, and his reasoning is spot on. He stays truthful to the scripture, he doesn't sugar coat anything.
Sadly John is caught in a heretic disparagement of the Fathers Mercy, Love and the finished work of the Cross and the blood of Christ. One only has to read Matthew 5 to see this. John preaches a false exclusive gospel, what we might call...God in a matchbox
@brianbrodie8331 No, he is faithful to the Word of God. And I can see the logic in all his comments, and we lucky to have someone who doesn't tell us what we want to hear, but tells us what we need to hear.
@@daniellecarney1487 Jesus said 'And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. (John 12:32, KJV). Isaiah says 'ALL we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us ALL. (Isaiah 53:6, KJV) If you believe the first all in that scripture means all people, the second is the same word, same context. Jesus also said 'For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.” (John 6:40, NASB). He didn't say who is elected/called like calvinists believe. He said everyone who believes in Him. And faith is not a work, no matter how you can spin it. When the apostles were asked what must someone do to be saved, they didn't reply be one of the elect, be called, they said “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” (Acts 16:31, NASB) Calvinists won't admit it but they really don't believe people are saved by grace through faith. They believe people are saved by grace through election, before birth, before the world. But that isn't what the bible says. It says 'we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. (Galatians 3:14, NASB), and 'But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, (John 1:12, NASB)
One of my many favorite doctrines “election “! MacArthur is a great bible teacher, and explains in best. Believers who struggle with election, typically struggle with the notion that they saved themselves. Salvation from the Lord is according to His grace and mercy. Nothing we can do to earn salvation.
A man cannot come to Christ unless he believes on Him. The Father draws all men (elect and non elect) to Jesus Christ (John 12:32) and gives them the privilege of repenting of their sin and trusting Jesus Christ as their Savior (Acts 11:18). The whole operation is laid out in Romans 10:8-21
@@AKRichardson so you're trying to disprove the Bible? John McArthur reads out of the Bible and you don't believe him, that means that you don't believe the Bible. Why would someone want to argue with you about that? Do you think that I would argue with someone over the Easter bunny being real? It's your pride.......
The Lord God has great love for us, and the same here, when I was lost totally lost he was there for me when no one else was. I look at what kind of person I am not nice at times ! I say God really has great love to put up with me ! I am thankful for his patience with me, cause it it was a human being they would have been done with me ages ago ! Thank you my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Amen.
This is sooooo beautiful and detailed teaching I just cry out to God in thankfulness for Dr. MacArthur’s diligence in expounding the truth of Scripture!!!
BLIND be leaders of the BLIND. Both shall fall into the ditch. But you ppl are so deceived doesn't realize it under the spell of his demonic Manichaeism theology sorceries.
This verse can calm our hearts and minds when we feel confused and lacking answers. Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
We are warned of false teachers and to use the Holy Spirit to discern truth from heresy. Do not be fooled, whosoever believes in Jesus, IS called of God and shares Jesus', the only elect one, election. Praise God for His grace in Christ. All come short of the glory of God. None are righteous, no NOT one.
and he called everybody, to the very ends of the earth in "LOOK UNTO ME, AND BE YE SAVED ALL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH: FOR I AM GOD THERE IS NONE ELSE" - God. Isaiah 45:22 Because, God is not willing any perish, but all come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9 Where Calvinists, like this clown, John MacArthur - "limits" it. It's people - make light of it. And those that make light of his call to EVERYBODY, to the very ends of the earth, he's not saving them. He doesn't turn away anybody. Wants all to come to him. It's people, reject or make light of him. It would be nice if one day Calvinists woke up to the doctrine of it's not a doctrine. and stop making doctrines...and just believe in the gospel. What Jesus Christ did, is God was in him doing the work, that passed onto EVERYBODY, made everyone righteous, just as Adam's sin passed onto everyone and death by sin, passed onto everybody. It's like Esau, sell your birthright for a bowl of soup. Talking to a Calvinist is like talking to a Mormon. No different.
YOU , Sir. Are the false teacher that we need to watch for!!!! You cleverly turn the doctrine of election upside down!!! It is your carnal flesh that hates the doctrine of election. Ephesians, chapter 1 is very clear, very clear, very clear...
The Bible explains as John MacArthur carefully introduces what many will not accept nor satisfied, l myself don't agree with everything that any teacher or pastor explains but John MacArthur is one who God lead me to confirm what God placed in my heart.
I CANNOT IMAGINE A MORE READY INSTRUMENT IN THE HANDS OF SATAN FOR THE RUIN OF SOULS THAN A MINISTER WHO TELLS SINNERS IT IS NOT THEIR DUTY TO REPENT OF THEIR SINS OR TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST,AND WHO HAS THE ARROGANCE TO CALL HIMSELF A GOSPEL MINISTER,WHILE HE TEACHES THAT GOD HATES SOME MAN INFINITLY AND UNCHANGEABLY FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE HE CHOOSES TO DO SO. SPURGEON.
@@peralopenaify mr Lopez, John believes precisely what Charles spurgeon dose. Spurgeon believed that God Chose you you can’t choose him. John MacArthur believes you must repent and believe.
If he preached the Word the way it is written he wouldn't preach that God only destined some to eternal life. He wouldn't preach that Jesus only died for some, not all. He preaches a completely Pharisaical gospel. The Pharisees believed that they were saved because they were the elect, and everyone else be damned. He completely ignores scripture that contradicts this false gospel. He makes a good argument purely by arguing that men cannot judge God for what He does. "For God so loved the world (all men) that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life." "God desires that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth." "Because Christ died, all are dead (spiritually)...." (If Christ's death made ALL men dead, then the Calvinist is the only one dead that needs a Savior.) God did not harden Pharoah's heart. According to the Bible, Pharoah hardened his own heart, and God made a judicial judgement to permanently harden his heart because Pharoah already determined to keep his heart hard. God did not MAKE Pharoah a bad seed. The Bible says that all were made from the same lump, so He didn't make one good and another bad. God is an equal opportunity Savior. The Bible says God ENDURED Pharoah, not MADE him a bad seed. Israel was chosen, but not all Israel was saved. So, election doesn't mean salvation. Election and predestination is always used in the plural, not the singular. The doctrine of predestination in the New Testament is always talking about the Predestination of the Church, and the Church was predestined to be of those who put their trust in Jesus Christ. Jesus said, "When I be lifted up, I will draw ALL men unto me." And, Romans 1 tells us that God has given all men sufficient evidence of Himself and some CHOOSE not to believe and they suppress the truth. When Jesus said that nobody can come to Him unless the Father calls him, He specifically says the reason He said that is because He "knew who did not believe." When it comes to Jacob and Esau, the Bible is clear that Esau didn't believe, and God FOREKNEW Esau before he was born. The Bible says that God predestined to eternal life those He FOREKNEW. God knew ahead of time who would believe and therefore predestined every believer to eternal life. Three hours of preaching a false gospel, and Macarthur left out all the verses that contradict his false gospel. Study the character and teachings of the Pharisees and you will find Calvinism replaced them. I'm afraid that all the praise and trust that people give this man will come back to bite them someday. How can a man with any sense translate the word "all" to mean "the elect." That is what you would normally call delusion. Calvinism is a delusion.
@@endtimesareuponus8930 No, he Is preaching the bible accurately. If @catsfsn1983 believes the gospel and has repented, then he Is one of the elect and Is saved because he believes and repented. If he has not believed and not repented, then his home may be hell, but we don't know when God will call and save someone. You like many others who do not understand scripture make up straw man arguments and engage In scripture twisting by making comments COMPLETELY out of context of any surrounding scripture.
It's TRULY BIBLICAL what Ps. John is teaching! God HAS chosen, predestined those of us who have heard or read the gospel and gotten saved, having the righteousness of God imputed unto us who believe it! One cannot believe unless the Lord has chosen that person to believe! It has to do with the SOVEREIGNTY of God Almighty! THY WILL BE DONE on earth as it is in Heaven!
Yes He Loved the world He has made so that those who believe- whom He causes to believe- will not die and be wiped out- otherwise there would be no one left. Isaiah 1. John 3 continues to tell believers that he that believes not is condemned already. He then says chapter 13 He loved His Own whom the Father had given them out of the world and loved them til the end. He said I pray NOT for the world... He will call His Elect from the 4 winds... You have to actually read the whole bible and actually repent and be born of the Spirit to believe the bible and accept the Real God. Not some puppet mickey mouse cult tradition who puts murderers and pedophiles in with actual believers. You have never believed the Bible. Just a religious tradition from some easy believism cult.
@@uncasunga1800 Amen Amen. For us to believe in the Holy & Mighty God. God has to reveal Himself to us and draw us to Him by the Holy Spirit! You cannot come to God by our way. We have all sinned and fall short of His Glory and deserve eternal punishment! We are like filthy rags. And there is none that is righteous. And no good works that we can do to receive the gift of salvation! Jesus Christ said that it is finished! Jesus Christ paid the debt that we could not pay! God knew man would sin! God knew that the devil would rebel against Him! God knew that His Son Jesus Christ is the only way that man could be saved! But still knowing all that, God created man. And showed us His great love for us. Through His Son Jesus Christ!
This video is the first teaching I heard on election and convinced me of it and believed it for a few years until I came across beyond the fundamentals a video called election is nothing like you were told and also predestination is nothing like you were told
“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.” (John 6:44) This is a difficult doctrine to swallow, but if you truly serve God you must accept it. My godless father and brother who both died young as unrepentant sinners were never intended to be among God’s people. My mother who is too proud to even consider herself a sinner may not be intended for salvation. My wife and child who have seen the undeniable supernaturally driven change in me are actively seeking God. They are likely among God’s elect. Accept the truth of scripture. God has every right to send us all to hell and it would not diminish his character in the slightest. It is dangerous to question or deny God’s sovereignty, righteousness, and holiness.
John shows a remarkable understanding and insight into the meaning of some very difficult scriptures on "predestination" that we cannot just discount because they do not line up with the sentiments of our sense of logic.God is INFINITE and OMNISCIENT and His Ways are far above ours.Election does not have to mean exclusion, says Dr. Walter Martin and many others.. Cling to The Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and then you do not have to worry about this difficult Doctrine because you will be Saved Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be Saved and thy house. Amen !,
Curt..your point is well taken.First , we must define terms...the sad fact of the matter is this...Not everyone who calls himself a Christian ..is one !....recent surveys of last year tell us that 73 percent of americans claim to be Christians and only 10 percent of those, know the basic fundamentals of the faith. The pure Gospel of Jesus Christ shows Him to be the only way to Salvation and eternal life. Through His shedding of Blood on Calvary for, the remission of sin.All of us deserve hell because we are sinners living in a cesspool of sin with no hope of redemtion other than God's gift of eternal life through Christ.If you are one who has the Faith to believe, Repent and ask Jesus to be Lord and Savior..you are Saved, sealed and redeemed for all eternity.. There are a multitude of scriptures that tell us of this fact...Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be Saved ! acts 16:31...When they heard this, they had no further objections and praised God, saying, "So then, even to Gentiles God has granted repentance that leads to life Acts 11:18 .There are many more scriptures in the doctrine of Salvation and The Assurance of Salvation and the Lord has setted this with me so as to give to me the peace that passes all understanding. I pray He will give it to you also.
Dana Brinkmeier, 'Election and Predestination' is indeed a biblical doctrine because it is in the scriptures... However John Calvin failed to understand the entirety of this doctrine.... He had known half of it only and added his own understanding to this doctrine of 'Election and Predestination'.... So, Calvinism is Truth mixed with Lies and it is more dangerous than lies alone.... I have asked several Calvinists this question, which none of them were able to answer, because it was not taught by John Calvin who himself did not know the answer.... My Question : How did God Choose those whom He will save? Surely God have some basis for His choice.... He did not just pick them at random.... The Answer is: Of course God choose His own children... It is in the scriptures that there are two groups of people in this world, 'The Sheep and the goats' or 'The Wheat and the Tares'.... In the Parable of 'The wheat and Tares', Jesus Himself explained who are these two groups of people, and where did they come from... The 'Sheep or Wheat' are the true children of God, and they will be saved... The 'goats or tares' are of the devil and they are damned..... The Sheep or Wheat are the True children of God not only by creation but by HEREDITY.... I CAN PROVE THIS TO YOU IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.... The Sheep inherited the character of God, The goats inherited the character of the devil..... After the Fall of Adam and Eve, All the children of God are affected and inherited the fallen nature of Adam and Eve, they did not inherit the sin but the sinful nature.... That's why Jesus came to give His life for ransom to save the Elect.... (hope this clarifies you) The elects were fallen and they need to be saved.... There is no OSAS in the scriptures, it is the wrong understanding of John Calvin... All the elect will definitely be saved, not one will be lost.... John 17:12(KJV) ''While I was with them in the world, I kept them in your name: those that you gave me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the '''son of perdition'''; that the scripture might be fulfilled.'' (the son of perdition is Judas, he is not the child of God, but the son of perdition, a goat) Example of Goats : Cain, Judas, some of the pharisees, pharaoh in the time of Moses. Example of Sheep : Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, The apostles except Judas.... NOTE : The difference between the Sheep and the goats.... The Sheep though they are in the fallen state, they still love God and desire to please God, Not the goats, they don't love God but only their selves... (all of us are in fallen state; in sinful nature... but some love God and desire to please God, while others don't love God and don't desire to please God) Calvin's TOTAL DEPRAVITY is a false teaching..... The elect are NOT totally evil, but totally HELPLESS to overcome sin.... That's why we need Jesus Christ to save us, and we need to hear the true gospel because even though we are chosen, we are not aware of the gospel of Jesus Christ, unless we hear it from those who were sent to preach.. .. Look at Cain, he has no respect to God, he faced God with anger and blamed God for his sin of killing Abel.... How about John 3:16 ? John 3:16(NIV) ''For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.'' ''Whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life''==>>Only the Elect will believe because they are the True Children of God and Have the character of God.... The goats are of the devil, they hate God and don't have the ability to repent... Look at Judas, he prefer to hang himself than to repent of what he has done.... ''Go unto all the world and preach the gospel to all creatures''==>>Only the Sheep will believe the gospel and repent..... Thanks for reading....
@@52RGD I agree !...you make some good points...especially..The elect are NOT totally evil, but totally HELPLESS to overcome sin. Every person alive sins and is in need of forgiveness,,propitiation and sanctification which only the death ,and resurrection of Christ can bring to fulfill God's plan of Redemtion to a fallen human race which also includes all of creation including the animal kingdom for even the world groaneth in trevail for redemption. Thank God the Holy Spirit for giving us the ability to turn away from sin although we still do on occasion stumble and have to confess and ask for forgiveness.Sin has been most devastating for all concerned.ever..Brother....See you in Glory !
John MacArthur, I have listened to you for many years, and believe some because of your preaching but also from the presence of The Holy Spirit's guidance, teaching, and guarding in my life here. I feel redeemed by the grace of the sacrifice in humility of Jesus Christ of dying in assumption of my sins, as fully man, and fully God, and as SO, restored to LIFE, as God's first fruit, setting The pathway for following believers of mankind, to salvation..
1 John 2:1-2: "My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father-Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world."
World is qualified. You must understand the context of the verse. If Jesus saves every single people on the earth then there wont be hell in the first place. The whole world in this context means everyone whom God predestined to be saved, from many nation, tribe, and tongue. not just jews
@@drumondfanton2699 not wishing for Any to perish but for all to come to repentance. Not all accept the gospel. We choose. God provides the shed blood and the grace.
The Early Church fathers who were the successors to the Apostles emphatically denied pre-determinism which was a teaching of their opponents, the Gnostics. For the first three centuries after the Apostles, free will was the mainstream orthodox teaching. Augustine of Hippo was responsible for importing elements of what we know as TULIP into the Church. He did so because, before his conversion, he had been a Gnostic. People assume the TULIP paradigm is Christian because it has been around a long time but ancient error is still error.
@peralopenaify This would have been shocking news to the Apostles John, Peter and Paul who wrote the majority of the New Testament and who all write about being chosen and predestined.
@@douglasmcnay644No citations needed, Augustine rejected Manichaeism in His earlier in His writings, but in His debate with Pelagius picked back up the teachings of Mani, and doubled down, like double predestination Neo-Platonic style!!
Since I had to leave Grace Community and John’s teaching and move to Texas, I have found it impossible to find correct and sound teaching in the thirty plus Churches I’ve visited and attended. It’s an absolute disgrace. These Texans have a REAL problem with election. So very arrogant and man centered. Who’d have thought the best teaching in the country would come from my crazy home state- California! So deeply grateful for my time there and for John’s ministry, as well as Phil Johnson’s. I feel like if I don’t listen to recordings like this, I will go absolutely crazy with the corrupted garbage I’ve had to listen to out there. “By His doing, not yours”, as John says here.
@@pam2viph Thank you. Yes, Steve Lawson is excellent, but I’m nowhere near Dallas. Hinn, a rather unfortunate last name, though he is attending Masters Seminary, I believe is in Arizona. I have since found a church that is an hour away from my home, and though no Grace Community, has , essentially, the correct beliefs. God Bless.
My understanding of God's election of us for salvation after reading his Word is that God is all-knowing and has created us with a freewill to put our faith in him for all things. But because of sin we now put our faith in created things which separate us from God. God has sent his Son, Jesus Christ to redeem us if we after hearing the gospel will with a repentant heart accept, believe and put our faith in Jesus Christ as our Savior. God being all-knowing already knows who will do this and they are his elect. Both before they do it and also after they do it. We are eternally his, Praise His Name.
Your understanding is useless; doesn't matter how many times you read a bible, because your understanding is FLESH! So what good does it do? Do you think these things are fleshly appraised? But if the Spirit came along side and instructed you with holy conviction, then you'd understand rightly. But as it is, you mistakenly think christianity is reading a bible and making a decision. That's a start. But that doesn't complete anything. You cannot even have understanding while you are still an incomplete man apart from Christ. Understanding is a fruit of the Spirit, and fruit cannot be produced unless you are complete in Christ. Try reading the bible with full heartfelt prayer and asking for God's guidance..Your free will phony nonsense is mere religion and nothing else. You have the free will to choose cherry or grape; that's about it. But when it comes to spiritual matters you are blind. You are in bondage to the ruler of this world, and only turning to Jesus lifts the veil over your eyes.
@@Caleb-xf5yn Dear Caleb-xf5yn, you seem to be hostile toward me for directing people to with a repentant heart, to believe and put their faith in Jesus Christ as their Savior. Please read the following: What we need to know about ourselves from God's Word and our only hope of being justified before a Holy and righteous God: [WHY WE HAVE NO HOPE IN OURSELVES: Mk. 7:20-23 And he (Jesus) said, That which comes out of the man, that defiles the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things (sins) come from within, and defile the man.] [WHY WE NEED A SAVIOR: Rom. 3:10-28 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understands, there is none that seeks after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that does good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes. Now we know that what things so ever the law says, it says to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his (God's) sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God has set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believes in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Joh. 3:16 For God so loved the world (us), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Joh. 14:6 Jesus said to him (us), I am the way (salvation), the truth (assurance), and the life (eternal): no man comes to (God) the Father, but by me (God the Son). Rom. 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:]
Did God choose us or did we choose God? Yep 🙌🏼✝️ “Divine sovereignty and human responsibility have never had a falling out with each other.” Charles Spurgeon
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC if it were up to me in any way, I would lose my salvation and never be sanctified. Thank God it's not up to me what the Holy Spirit does and how he does it. I do the best that I can though.....
@@CaptainsLady god chose but one Christ. The anointed ONE. Sovereign mighty god, but America says “no… he chose two” trump also. Christians calling themselves elect and stealing his election. It ain’t about free will honey. DIVORCED I say!!! Because god chose Jesus. There ain’t no other.
See Dr. Ken Wilson's research on the writings of Augustine, to find out why Augustine invented the doctrine now known as "Calvinism" to explain how infants could become the "elect" through water baptism. Since the child had not come to faith, it must be based on the will of another. It could have nothing to do with the will of the child. And now we have those who call themselves "Baptists" promoting Augustine's denial of free will, which was originally invented to justify infant baptism. Leighton Flowers did an excellent interview with Dr. Wilson on the RUclips channel, "Soteriology 101".
It should be called "Paulism". It was the Apostle Paul that penned this doctrine by the Holy Spirit in Romans. And many believe there is a age of accountability. Notice in Exodus 13:14 that all those under 20yrs of age were allowed into the promise land.
Ida ChildofGod Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
I enjoy listening to John MacArther and I know that he has studied his Bible. I have been saved almost 60 years. My Salvation was just as secure the moment I was saved as I am today. I know my Bible as well as anyone when it comes to Salvation. I have witnessed (shared God's Simple plan of Salvation) well over 20,000 times in my lifetime. The Holy Spirit is our teacher. Yes I went to Bible College, but I learned my Bible by introducing people to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. The fruit of the righteous is a tree of Life, and he that winneth Souls is wise. Proverbs 11:30 KJV and Daniel 12:3 KJV. 2 Corinthians 5:15 And that He died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto Him which died for them, and rose again. Note, And that He died for "all",.!! All means all, not just the ones that God knew would accept the offer of the free gift of Salvation. John Calvin and Jacobus Armenius were both born during the 1500s or you would say the 16th Century. The Bible was completed within the first 100 years after Jesus Christ and His resurrection. I am a Bible believer. I don't have to follow after men, I have the ability to think for myself. Salvation is Eternal the moment you are Saved. God doesn't give away Everlasting Life and then take it back, that's impossible. Predestination has to do with God's foreknowledge and yes God's Holy Spirit does draw people to His Salvation. This is not complicated. But I am not a follower of Calvin or Armenius, because I am a follower of Christ and of His Blood that He shed on the Cross to pay for my sins and His Death that sealed the deal. He could not have died by natural causes, or by suffocation or any other means, unless He shed His Blood and died. The Blood was the currency used to Satisfy a just and Holy God. His Death was necessary in order to complete the task of redemption. I say to you that it took both the Blood of Christ and His Death to Satisfy God's plan. So many great verses on the Blood. Romans 5:9 KJV Revelation 1:5 KJV
I say all this with sincere respect, and love. I’m not angry, this is just something that is weighing heavily on me because it makes perfect sense from the Scriptures I read and yet you and others make it to be this enigma in a riddle wrapped in a mystery.
Jaxon Holden Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
Have you ever read the parable of the sower in the light of election? The principles of God's election is vividly explained there. And we can see that God's election is based not on individual's traits but on his principles. People who would be willing to accept God's gift and persevere through whatever circumstances are elected. Not only are they elected, God intervenes for them whenever it is necessary; to enlighten the truth, and to help them persevere. But never goes beyond their will.
I think it is important to understand that there are strong alternatives to Calvinism, that also believe in election and predestination, but with a different dictionary. Be a good scholar and Berean, seek out the strongest arguments on BOTH sides, pray about it and work it out between you and God. Just don't go about believing that because the Bible uses words like election, it must mean what MacArthur says it means. Again, there are other options. Hear what other sides say for themselves, not what one side says about them. Not everyone who doesn't believe Calvinism is an Armenian. You've heard what one of the foremost Calvinists of today believes from his own mouth, now go listen to some on the other side, compare and contrast. Although this issue holds importance, the most important thing is that ultimately we all trust in Christ for our salvation, and thus are the family of God.
You said there are other points of view that believe in election and predestination that aren't Armenian but are different than calvanism. Would you give me some direction on a particular sermon, person, or denomination that I could research on. Thank you
Stephen Moody hey there, so while there aren't many resources that don't fall under the usual Calv-Arm camp, a few resources that may help include the book "Determined to Believe" by John Lennox, and the podcast Soteriology 101 by Leighton Flowers has just done a series of some informative 15 minute topical episodes going over different words like elect and predestine, and definitions in and outside of Calv and Arm. (Just fyi he is more "free will" leaning) While I might be considered more "free will", I don't believe one can lose one's salvation as many Arminians do, and I have some various other differences from them. Another resource you might find interesting is a book called "Foundations of Augustinian Calvinism" by Dr. Ken Wilson. It's a condensed version of his doctoral thesis at Oxford exploring the origins of deterministic leanings in historical Christianity, very well researched and informative. Chapter 22 in AW Tozer's "Knowledge of the Holy" discusses sovereignty in a different light than that of Calvinism, and is an interesting read. CS Lewis also has some very interesting thoughts on free will and predestination at the end of "The Great Divorce". I hope these help, If I find any more I'll try to post them. Likewise if there is a resource that may help my understanding of the various sides of this issue you'd recommend, please list it!
Thank you for some leads on where to broaden my research on gods sovereignty vs are free will. I dont myself have any suggeations to offer you regarding this topic since I just started evaluating this area. It is very interesting because the two sides appear to be in conflict with each other although I believe they are both true at the same time because the scriptures give evidence for both. I believe God knows we have a very strong desire to feel like were directing ourselves even if were aren't. Im not going to judge god because I know his ways are not my ways and I dont know his purpose, I mostly want everybody to have the chance to believe. Im going to have to read some more its an area im just beginning to define. Thanks again
Hey Hayden! I always find that people that have differing view points hardly actually study this end of it, and fill themselves with the opposing view.. did you watch this video? And what are your thoughts on this video in particular? If I’m ever going to change my belief set id have to see this view analyzed and not a view with different definitions. Leighton flowers doesn’t fully understand Calvinism, although he is familiar with the 5 points of grace. He seems to always attack a more hyper form of Calvinism, and not the orthodox reformed view
I also highly recommend watching james white versus leighton flowers on the romans 9 debate! The exegesis of Romans 9 showed me God’s sovereignty more than anything. And it was good to hear 2 men talking and not a recording of one man !
God doesnt reject anyone; He rejects the foundation of which they choose to work their own righteousness For no flesh shall be justified by the works of the law'...
In the Old Testament, on several occasions, God chose a Remnant, an ELECT group who would carry forward His plans: He had to make such a selection because no one sought Him and His righteousness. The Scriptures declare that there is none good, that no one seeks after God, and except that God sovereignly ‘elected’ some for His own purposes, no one would be saved! It is unthinkable that God would deny salvation to anyone that sought Him and His righteousness! So, we need not fret over God’s having elected, decreed that a Remnant would be saved, for had He not done so, no one would be saved! Further more, there is a greater opportunity/chance that others, beside the elect, will be saved, because of the testimony, the observed lifestyles of the elect!
Romans 1 and 2 talk about those who are with out law and do so are better than those who have the law and don’t act upon. The conscious speaks to us conscious spoke to the gentiles back them. Free will has always existed. There for the gift of God is for all of those who want to call him lord and savior.
So how do you explain 2 Peter 3:9? He is not willing that any should perish, but all come To repentance! So confusing. I think Calvinism distorts the truth
Willing is probably better understood as "desires". However, consider this...God is defined by His attributes. Love, power, omniscience, truth, life, peace, justice...God demonstrates all of these characteristics so that people can trust that He is who He says that He is. We know that God is merciful because He has shown mercy. We know that He is powerful because He has demonstrated power. How does God show He is just? He MUST judge. He has to show that He is just by judging wickedness. If a human judge just let everyone go, we would say that he is a terrible judge. We can tell that one is a righteous judge by seeing their track record of doing according to the law, judging correctly. Man is born on a path to hell and will only continue to do as their broken nature dictates, which is to sin. Only by God's call can a person be saved because nobody seeks for God on their own. Now to us, this seems unfair. It sounds like God doesn't give everybody a chance. However, from God's perspective, it is entirely fair. He is letting people do exactly what they want and they will pay the consequences for their actions.
So who are the elect that the Bible talks about so much? What does the word elect mean? You just don't believe the Bible is it.. You won't accept God's sovereignty because of your pride.
If this doctrine is really being interpreted correctly, What's the point of trying to convert people? What's the point of praying for people to be saved?
@@tommysuriel no he was not. you made that up. "Their names were writtehn in the lambs book before time" You must be born again. otherwise you will never understand and never believe. your lies will not stand. "He told me everything i ever did." Election is PRE destination not POST destination you jackwagon imtellectual derelict hahahahhaha
@@tommysurielbe careful as a non Calvinist to use the word election like they do. The Bible does not use election that way. Take a look at beyond the fundamentals a video called election is nothing like you were told. Hope it's useful
Amen! In our arrogance, we, mere humans, question God Almighty's will? We, handful of dust, think of ourselves more compassionate than God Almighty, Creator of ALL and ALL things! This is his universe - we don't have a universe! Praise God for He is perfect and NEVER makes mistakes!
Ronny Carney Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
Miles Clark Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
John has mentioned it before, but what he's trying to say is, This isn't a liberal worldview where everyone gets a gold ribbon and goes to heaven like the Roman Catholic socialist pope believes.. GOD knows the end before the beginning begins. He preselects those who will believe in him and nurtures them along until bountiful faith takes over. Read The Attributes of God by Pink.
Ben Rumson, John MacArthur himself in his other video said, that If God saw in the future who will believe in Him... Then it is no longer election but reaction because He saw those who will believe , then select them... This is the dilemma of Calvinism..... ====================================================================== There is a flaw in Calvinism, where the Calvinists failed to see it... 'Election and Predestination' is indeed a biblical doctrine because it is in the scriptures... However John Calvin failed to understand the entirety of this doctrine.... He had known half of it only and added his own understanding to this doctrine of 'Election and Predestination'.... So, Calvinism is Truth mixed with Lies and it is more dangerous than lies alone.... I have asked several Calvinists this question, which none of them were able to answer, because it was not taught by John Calvin who himself did not know the answer.... My Question : How did God Choose those whom He will save? Surely God have some basis for His choice.... He did not just pick them at random.... The Answer is: Of course God choose His own children... It is in the scriptures that there are two groups of people in this world, 'The Sheep and the goats' or 'The Wheat and the Tares'.... In the Parable of 'The wheat and Tares', Jesus Himself explained who are these two groups of people, and where did they come from... The 'Sheep or Wheat' are the true children of God, and they will be saved... The 'goats or tares' are of the devil and they are damned..... The Sheep or Wheat are the True children of God not only by creation but by HEREDITY. I can prove this to you if you are interested.... The Sheep inherited the character of God, The goats inherited the character of the devil..... After the Fall of Adam and Eve, All the children of God are affected and inherited the fallen nature of Adam and Eve, they did not inherit the sin but the sinful nature.... That's why Jesus came to give His life for ransom to save the Elect.... (hope this clarifies you) The elects were fallen and they need to be saved.... There is no OSAS in the scriptures, it is the wrong understanding of Calvin the murderer... All the elect will definitely be saved, not one will be lost.... John 17:12(KJV) ''While I was with them in the world, I kept them in your name: those that you gave me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the '''son of perdition'''; that the scripture might be fulfilled.'' (the son of perdition is Judas, he is not the child of God, but the son of perdition, a goat) Example of Goats : Cain, Judas, some of the pharisees, pharaoh in the time of Moses. Example of Sheep : Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, The apostles except Judas.... Note: The difference between the Sheep and the goats.... The Sheep though they are in the fallen state, they still love God and desire to please God, Not the goats, they don't love God but only their selves... Look at Cain, he has no respect to God, he faced God with anger and blamed God for his sin of killing Abel.... How about John 3:16 ? John 3:16(NIV) ''For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.'' ''Whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life''==>>Only the Elect will believe because they are the True Children of God and Have the character of God.... The goats are of the devil, they hate God and don't have the ability to repent... Look at Judas, he prefer to hang himself than to repent of what he has done.... ''Go unto all the world and preach the gospel to all creatures''==>>Only the Sheep will believe the gospel and repent..... Thanks for reading....
Scott Heitman, marine survey Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
And in Jonah, God ((already)) HAD PREPARED a fish! Because it all HAD TO HAPPEN! We call it Jonah being hard headed and stubborn... But there truth is, GOD WROTE IT in His minds book before the foundation of the world, so it had to happen. We're the expression of God's mind, words and thoughts from the foundation of the world. We're walking His plan out in real time.
Johnnie Weems If you have believed then you have obeyed. This is not about “ not sinning “. And if you try to make it there on obedience then you’ll fail.
Sad but true that so many real Christians don't "study to show themselves approved unto God, workmen that needeth not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of truth (the Holy Bible)" 2 Timothy 2:15! Those who DO study will see that the Lord is using dear Pastor MacArthur to explain what Jesus has to say according to scripture about election and predestination which is NOT Calvinistic teaching!!!
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Ronny Carney Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
For those who have minds that can reason, then let us reason together. Firstly why does God choose one and not another? Or why does God actually choose at all? Who does He choose? And why do we need to be chosen. Let’s cut right to the chase and consider the following to see whether or not it could be a possibility. We know that God knew before creating the angels that one third of them would fall into rebellion. And also we know that God didn’t need to send these fallen ones here to be with us. But we also know that those who overcome satan’s temptations who temps us to rebel against God, will be of a greater character for overcoming them than those who were never tempted. Perhaps this character is a necessary qualification for God to be able to make us in His own image. And if this is true then we can say that God would have seen the rebellion in heaven as a magnificent opportunity, because it made possible for God to make man in His own image. Perhaps God chooses because if He doesn’t choose, none would be saved. Maybe this is how it is. Maybe the powers of Satan are so powerful that unless Jesus Christ intercedes and chooses us we will not be saved. And therefore as God knows who will and who won’t accept His offer, He predestines the life of those whom He knows will accept it so they can indeed accept it and be accepted by God. On this basis God is choosing on merit alone. For He knows those who will accept His offer. Therefore He orchestrates their lives so they can indeed repent. Interesting subject.
@@rudyferrell Obviously we will not deny the wisdom of wisely leaving to God what we cannot comprehend, such as how He created billions of Galaxies. And those who tell us that this and other mysteries of God are beyond our human comprehension, speak well, because they speak a great truth, don’t they. However the subject of predestination, whilst it initially doesn’t make sense, is meant to make sense, hence the reason why God alerts us to its existence. And as we ponder the reasoning for it with the logical minds God has given us, it becomes apparent from a process of deduction, should we wish to deduce it, that God predestines because without doing so, none would be saved. The understanding of this subject brings with it a greater comfort and solace for us who consider the lost who are perishing, because it helps us to more fully appreciate that they ultimately would not pay the price of grateful obedience to God. However as the greatness of God and what He is, is unlimited and in the realm of infinity itself, we therefore, whilst learning more and more while travelling along our eternal journey in heaven, will always be learning, never knowing all, but always learning more. Thank you for your comment. God bless you.
Please listen again to his teaching. Maybe on the 2nd time you will see he answered All of your questions. Only thing I disagree with is why he teaches; "God does not destined some to hell - For in regards to Romans 9 - it is clear God hated Esau before he was even born. Also in verse 18 God will show mercy on whom He Wills. Now look in Genesis where God tells Eve He will put ENMITY between SATAN'S SEED AND HER SEED. PLUS, Look at the parable of the Wheat and the Tares.. The parable which Jesus gives appears in Matthew 13:24-43. The parable relates how servants eager to pull up weeds were warned that in so doing they would root out the wheat as well and were told to let both grow together until the * harvest. But look closely at verses 23,24. ** The kingdom of heaven is planted by likened unto a man that sows good seed. V.25 shows an Enemy comes in darkness and sowes tares among the wheat. (Who is our enemy? - none other than the one in the garden that God said He would put ENMITY between each seed. SATAN's Goats are walking among us Sheep. Just as there has become a huge field of Satan 's tares. God will call us home but already has a place reserved for Satan and all his followers to be cast into the lake of fire... Revelation 20:19-15. THEY will be judged by their works. They are not under the blood of Christ Jesus. So trust God is in Control and has the end planned from the beginning. Oh, yes! The Goats and or the Tares will be divided, and God's Sheep will enter into His glorious rest. Be strong in your faith, for God Will Not allow the tares to choke out God's plan for your life. God is Always in Control. He declared the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church - He promised that long before the church came into being. So are there people here predestined to hell - Yes by all certainty. JESUS said I have come for my lost Sheep. (ONLY) So in this respect I do disagree respectfully. There are vessels made for honor and dishonor. ROMANS 9:22,23 Goats never become sheep - DNA today proves that. Neither can a tare become a wheat either. ROMANS 9:22,23 - Only God knows His own. I am so very grateful for His Grace and Mercy toward me and the 'Great I AM' made me one of His Sheep. ✝️❤️🌼🙏😘 Yes a day will come the Goats will be separated from the Sheep and wheat from the tares.
@@sandrafarley8798 I don’t think I disagree with you. All I am saying is that As God knows everything, He knew that the fall would take place in heaven if He made the angels. And of course, As He knows which angels would be faithful to Him, He also knew which ones of us would be faithful to Him too. Correct? But God allows Satan to come here to earth. God could have sent him anywhere but He sends him or allows him to be amongst us. Why? What function does Satan provide? He provides the function of the tempter, doesn’t he. The holy angels have proven themselves haven’t they. Although God doesn’t need proof because He knows without the proving. So therefore the angels have proved themselves to themselves, haven’t they. They were tried and tested and they know they have passed the test with flying colours. And because of this proving their character is of a greater quality than what it was before they proved it. Perhaps we can say that as they have proved themselves they have been sealed by God making it impossible for them to ever sin. Satan could have separated Peter the apostle or sifted him but Jesus prayed and prevented it. Peter had seen it all. The miracles and He knew that Jesus was the son of the living God. But nevertheless without the intervention of Jesus he could have been sifted. Ok what chance do we have of not being sifted by Satan. The answer is, without the help of God, we’d have no chance. Hence the reason for predestination because without being predestined none would be saved. God knew we were all going to become captives of Satan so He comes up with a plan to set us free. But Satan isn’t about to let us go unless God forces his hand. And He does that with an offer that Satan cannot refuse. And that’s the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross as a sufficient ransom to let all those go free who plead the blood of Jesus Christ. And As God knows before the creation of man which ones will be faithfully obedient to Him if He creates them, He therefore chooses these ones, and gives them a predestinated life or an orchestrated life that makes it possible to repent. But without this orchestrated life none would repent and none would be saved.
So you're saying God purposefully orchestrates some lives so they have no possibility of repenting. Doesn't Calvinism say God does everything? So why repent?
Oh, John... You are gonna be SO happy when you finally come to the realization that God is saving ALL mankind. Sure, the "elect" remnant now, but eventually ALL mankind (1 Tim 4:10).
@@bernardbennett1217 praying that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may be giving you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the realization of Him,
What Mr MacArthur says about false teachers whom are leaders and doctors explains to me, how Jesus said in Mathew 7: 21-23. " Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord."
I hope you understand Mac Arthur is one of those teachers who says lord lord and he will not be let in. You do know that he is a new calvanist that doesn’t even understand John Calvin’s theology, and the worst he thinks jesus blood is not gods blood. The man is bad. Dig deeper.
Furthermore, does the Bible not teach that even evil men give good gifts to their children? Is that not a “good act”? Are we really implying that total depravity means we are 100% incapable of doing any single good deed in our entire lives? Even after hearing the gospel of Christ which is the power to salvation? That is not what the Bible teaches. If that was the case he’d have destroyed the world all over again as He did in Noah’s time, as everyone only ever thought and did evil continually. No matter how depraved we are, God still allows us to make a choice after hearing His gospel. Why? I don’t know the mind of God, but are you to argue that sovereign God is incapable of sovereignly choosing to ALLOW US to make that choice, and in His foreknowledge electing those who do? It has NOTHING TO DO with merit. He doesn’t elect us because He feels “obligated” to, or because we’ve “earned” salvation by responding. He does so because he SOVEREIGNLY CHOOSES to. He would have every right to deny our plea and condemn us on the spot! If He so chose. Nobody is claiming we have “merited” anything by responding. He will have mercy on who He will have mercy on, and it is clear to me from the scriptures that He will have mercy on any who fall before Him, confess their sins and plead for salvation. And that is by HIS design, not ours.
I feel very sorry for the people that resort to name calling and anger that don’t like what this man is proving to them. But if you’re angry it doesn’t bother him. Im a second your seminary student and this man is exactly correct in his hermeneutics. More than likely the critics use the Bible like a daily horoscope, put their hand over their eyes put their finger on a verse and that’s God talking to them. LOL.The charismatic movement has done all but ruin accurate interpretation. So I guess I can’t blame them
I CANNOT IMAGINE A MORE READY INSTRUMENT IN THE HANDS OF SATAN FOR THE RUIN OF SOULS THAN A MINISTER WHO TELLS SINNERS IT IS NOT THEIR DUTY TO REPENT OF THEIR SINS OR TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST,AND WHO HAS THE ARROGANCE TO CALL HIMSELF A GOSPEL MINISTER,WHILE HE TEACHES THAT GOD HATES SOME MAN INFINITLY AND UNCHANGEABLY FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE HE CHOOSES TO DO SO. SPURGEON.
theyre all destined for doom unless tehy repent they dont want to so they try to twist scripture. they are all here with fake profiles triggered ranting and raving haha obv theyve been convicted and refused
We don't have any choice at all, we are already predetermined and predestined to heaven or hell. So sad. Why then share the gospel? I can't see grace and mercy. Rather than focusing on a single belief why not take a balanced position. God is sovereign but He respects man's choice.
@@pinarellosq2868 Still i will trust the word of God rather than man, john 3:16 "for God so loved the elect?" Nope, God so loved the world. He gives us a choice, He initiates, we respond. Those who who accepted Jesus made a choice. God never forced men to accept Him. The problem relies on our foreknowing, we are limited, God is infinite. He knows the end. That's why He said, you are predestined, He saw it already, He was not surprised. Anyway just enjoy your relationship with God through calvinism, I will also enjoy through the bible.
You can share the gospel with a thousand, and only those who God draws to him will believe. Jesus preached to countless groups. Jesus preached to countless folk. Sharing the gospel is still important. You never know which will believe it.
After sixty years as a Christian, reading the sacred scriptures and studying them word by word, sentence by sentence, paragraph by paragraph, and more crucially studying the words of the Eternal Word, God manifest in Flesh, who alone is Eternal Life, and Eternal Salvation, and to highlight the eternal significance of this , let me take every genuine Christian to the Mount of Transfiguration in Matthew chapter 17v5 and Mark chapter 9v11-15, and Luke chapter 9v7, and Luke chapter 9v35, and listen to The Words of God the Father in response to the manmade ideology of Peter to make three tabernacles, one for you , one for Moses and one , for Elijah , imagining in his feeble apprenhensiion, that he was doing well, putting the Lord first, until the cloud of God's glory came upon them , and they were filled with fear, and they fell on their faces and heard God the Father say, This is my Beloved Son Hear Him, and the saw no one but God's Son alone, Moses and Elijah the greatest of the Old Testament prophets Gone , and God said this is My beloved Son Hear Him. Today men major on what Paul or Peter says, but both of them are hell-deserving sinners, who could not save themselves never mind one single soul, so unless they confirm what The Eternal Word said, according to Hebrews chapter 2v3, their words are worthless, and unless we hear what God the Father said on the Holy Mountain, hear My Son, we are in danger of being eternally lost
@@rudyferrell I have struggled with God's sovereignty and man's responsibility. Staying close to God by being in His word daily, being with other believers who can hold me accountable, and listening to the guidance of the Holy Spirit through prayer helps my walk with our Lord. All my best to you.
Ronny Carney Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
1 Peter 1:2 KJVS Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
John acknowledges "tension" such as the ‘whosoever will’ scriptures. He states; “Anybody who will come can come; and anybody who does come will be received.” How does that work together with election; John answers; “I don’t know.” That's a "tension", not easily ignored. A teacher of scripture should say that up front so that those listening can put all comments in that context. I agree that the doctrine of election is biblical. It extends specifically to the redemptive plans and purposes of God. However, I believe John adds to the meaning. I don't believe it's good balance, under the auspices of hyper-sovereign theology, to use a broad brush and sanitize the Bible of all other passages that speak about human choice, the Holy Spirits role in bringing wisdom, revelation, and understanding, as well as the influence of the god of this world (satan). In this teaching John also answers the question; How do we know who the chosen are? He uses 1 Thes 1:3-4 and says, "It's evident from your life;" human behavior; or works. Earlier in the message he made it clear that election isn't about our goodness or bad. (Rom 9).
Thanks for the comments and the scriptures I posted these particular videos because I wanted to stimulate people to search the scripture and come to a solid conclusion
Bob Free Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
In my heart of hearts I believe that all who believe this doctrine are the true Elect. I can understand that there are many who oppose this. I keep coming back to the same question in my mind: why would this truth not be believed by all true followers of Christ? Would the Lord not reveal ALL truth to those that are genuinely born from above? I believe He would. Keep mining the Scriptures and listening to God annoninted preachers such as John MacArthur and John Barnett.
Toni Kennedy Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
you dont even understand the doctrine if you ask that. God decided everything from teh start. His choice of HIS own was His from the start. Eklektos look it up in strongs stop trying to get coherent theology in youtube comments come on grow up
Unconditional election: The choice of which branch God, the Father of Jesus Christ, grafts in and the work of ingrafting are monergistic. Romans 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; I am forever praising and believing Jesus is the Christ, and this is pleasing to God.
whoever here is qualified, you must understand the context of the verse. It does not mean every single people who ever lives on this planet. Just like the word "world". Otherwise there wont be hell if Jesus indeed saves the whole world (every single person). Jesus himself said that they will be many people going to hell.
Wow, if this is true, then I am relieved of praying for the lost! Maybe, just maybe, if this is true, then prayer is futile all together. I just throw my hands up and accept that it is God's will! I don't have to give to missions or community outreaches or minister to the ends of the earth. If this is true, then the church can just sit back, relax and not lift a finger to reach out to others. Just like when Noah had finished the ark, he didn't have to go on a safari to gather up the animals; they just showed up. This doctrine of election lightens the burden of everybody and everything about the mission of the church.
fasle cynical dichotomy mocking God you are a fke self righteous hypocrite. actually listen. duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so stupid come on are you a thinking functioning human? its in black and white EKlektos
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, *that the Gentiles by my mouth should HEAR the word of the gospel, and BELIEVE* And God, *which knoweth the hearts* bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. {Acts 15:7-9}
MacArthur has taught his version of election for so long that he is very convincing to people who do NOT rely on the discernment of the Holy Spirit. That discernment is ONLY available to believers in the gospel of Jesus AND who do not quench the discerning power of the Holy Spirit by having unconfessed sin in their lives. Eph 4:17, 1 Co 2:14. God gave us 1 John 1:9 is written to believers in Jesus so we can be restored to fellowship when we sin and be filled with Holy Spirit for discernment of the Word. The gospel of Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection paid for ALL sins of every human. Jesus is the ONLY elected one and was appointed as elected in eternity past. Is 42:1, 1 Pet 2:6. Whosoever believes shall be saved. John 3:16. All who believe in Jesus share in His election. Eph 1:4 In Christ we are chosen. Nobody is chosen except those who are in Christ by their belief in His salvation gospel. God is NOT the respecter of any person. Acts 10:25-37. The teaching of election as MacArthur and some others teach it is heresy and contrary to the essence and character of God. We must leave it to God to judge. The false doctrines come about when a human takes a verse of scripture out of context and does not listen to the discernment of the Holy Spirit the human intellect will always create a false conclusion. This is how religions and denominations exist and have for all of time. The Christian Way of Life is being filled with the Holy Spirit plus taking in knowledge of God from His Word. CWOL=HS+BD. THAT IS ALL THERE IS TO LIVING THE LIFE GOD WANTS EVERYBODY TO LIVE. False teaching and religion convolutes God will for us.
Was Jesus a Calvanist? When he walked the earth his very Message. was to talk to all people, the poor and down trodden,samaritans, Rich rulers,Leading Jewish rabbis and teachers,Zealots,an everone else. HE told them about the kingdom of GOD an forgave sins, which was to say ,he had the power to Forgive anyone,if only they Believed In Him.Do you think he was just talking to the Elect. Cmon now. Even many Pharasees believed him because of all those miracles as nicodemus concluded,WE know that thou are a Teacher from GOD cause no man could do those miracles unless GOD is with HIM!! Jesus was constantly trying to persuade as many as possible, an commands the Great Commission. was this also for some Elect. WAS baptism a charade for most men an just for an elect? Why would HE say go out an preach to all nations, Calvanism is Flawed especially with Limited Atonement.GOD also commands ALL men everywhere to REPENT. is this Not True? calvanists say its not. I don't GET it at all!!
Yes i have chosen thousands who have Not bowed down to baal. They made a choice to Follow God . We all use Gods Grace so that we CAN Repent just like he commands us too.But we are not forced into this.we choose with our God given free will. Grace is given to ALL,otherwise GOD would not tell ALL men to Repent.Jesus also pleads with men to turn to him.read it in scripture.
In Acts 19:2 the Bible says, And he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” Since the premise is regeneration comes before faith, how can they believe without knowing about the Holy Spirit? Can one be regenerated without the Holy Spirit? Is regeneration even necessary in order to believe?
1. Scripture is from God and God cannot lie. (2 Tim. 3:16; Tit. 1:2) 2. Predestination is of existing saints to adoption/glorification, not sinners to conversion. (Eph. 1:5, 11; Rom. 8:23, 29-30) 3. Election is to service, calling and purpose, not to salvation. (Isa. 42:1; Acts 9:15; Rom. 11:28). Eph 1:4 says, "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:" The Calvinist reword is "chosen TO BE in him unto salvation." "Holy and without blame" describe quality of service, and the word, "should" involves an exhortation to be such, not a decree. Salvation is not mentioned in Eph 1:4. 4. Adoption is the future redemption of the body, not conversion. (Rom. 8:23, 15-17; Gal. 4:1-6, 1 John 3:2) 5. Sinners become sons of God through the new birth, not through adoption. (John 1:12-13) 6. There are two callings: Gospel and vocational, not inward or outward or effectual or general, etc… (2 Thess. 2:14; Eph. 4:1; Rom. 8:28; 2 Cor. 5:20) 7. Atonement is not synonymous with salvation. Christ’s death reconciles the world in universal atonement but Christ's life is what saves. (Rom. 5:10; 1 Cor. 15:17) 8. It is a false dichotomy to assert that the universal set of theological thought is divided into Calvinism and Arminianism. We Bible believers reject both. Arminianism is Calvinism light. False dichotomies are used by the Calvinist to map the opponent to an unpalatable label and thus infer that Calvinism is the only alternative. 9. God is pleased to save those that believe, not cause belief in those he saves. (1 Cor. 1:21; Rom. 10:9-10) 10. Grace is a ubiquitous reality, not a selective force. (Tit. 2:11-13) 11. Grace is just fine on its own as found in scripture. Any modifier other than “free,” such as “sovereign,” “irresistible,” or “prevenient” indicates superimposition of an ideology by someone who is either confused or attempting to confuse. (Rom. 3:24; 5:15; Jn. 1:16; Tit. 2:11-13) 12. If one is born with total inability to receive God's life-giving truth and then passed over by the calvigod who unconditionally elected not to extend the gnostic spark of regeneration to that one to enable/cause faith, then there is no better excuse (Rom 1:20.) 13. God's Word and God's life-giving truth of the gospel are the enablers of faith - "...the holy scriptures, which are ABLE to make thee wise unto salvation..." "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." The 2nd person "thee" and "ye" apply to YOU, whoever you are. 14. The gift in Eph 2:8 is eternal life, not faith (Rom 6:23.) 15. God is all loving, He loves all (without exception.) (John 3:16).
Excellent! My prayer is that Calvinist followers of John MacArthur, John Piper and other Calvinist pastors like them will read your comments, ask God to reveal to them if what you wrote is correct and, when they realize by the power of the Holy Spirit what you wrote is true, they will leave this ugly, hateful doctrine known as Calvinism and begin to see God for who he is, a just and righteous God who is love, so much so that he “…wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth” (1 Tim 2:4). Not all will be saved, only those who believe (Jn 3:16). If someone doesn’t believe, it’s not because God prevents them from believing, rather it’s because they do not believe (Jn 3:18). May God bless you, and may God convict John MacArthur of his error and the damage he has done to the true gospel of Jesus Christ.
@@myinternetname5911 wacko fakes its PRE destination anyone not predestined never gets in they do not force themsleves obn God hahahahaha you have a puny puppet waiter disney world fake and do not believe you are a vile reprobate sinner. you hate the cross and declare God a liar the truth is not in you. self righteous american pompous prosperity gospel typical, no repentance no conversion.
1. Where in the scriptures it is ever taught that God must regenerate a man’s nature before he can believe? This can be found in a number of Scriptures John MacArthur prefers to use John chapter 3 verse 1. John One must be born again, although your web sight has corrupt the teaching of election its the only way for defense for the doctrine of election , your web site also accuses the doctrine of electron of robbing God of Glory when its the other way around if the doctrine of election makes it the full work of God the man gets no glory. man has always from the beginning tried to rob God of glory, to say that man choses God robs God of Glory it makes man responsible for his salvation, man does have the free will to choose unfortunately because of his sinful nature he will always choose sin over good, 2. Did the LORD have to give Abraham a new nature before he could make the decision to leave when he was called out in Gen 12? No that is a real dumb question Im Sure he was filled with the spirit from birth 3. Was the call to faith, imputed and irresistible to him? Of course, 4. This statement is false (The “elect” is Christ, and not mankind). lets look at all the scriptures and see who God is speaking of? (Ephesians 1:3-14) (Romans 9:11) (Acts 13:48) (Romans 8:33) (Col 3:12) (2thes2:13) (Mathews24:22,24,31) (Mark 13:20,22,27) (Romans11:7) (2 Timothy 2:10) (Titus1:1) (1 Peter1:1) Now who is Gods Elect? Christ? or is it those who God has given each a measure of faith ? LETS SAY YOUR RIGHT FOR ARGUMENT SAKE? IF YOU RIGHT THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT SAY THE OPPOSITE ? DO WE CAST THEM OUT? NO!! AND WE KNOW BOTH CANT BE RIGFHT? SO WE LOOK TO MAKE THEM ALL FIT WITH OUT CHANGING THE MEANING.
Learning Sound Theology Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, *by the word of God* which liveth and abideth for ever. {1 Peter 1:23} In whom also we [Ephesians] have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated *according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will* That we [Christ Apostles] should be to the praise of his glory, *who first trusted in Christ* In whom ye also trusted, *after* that ye *heard the word of truth* the gospel of your salvation: in whom also *after that ye believed* ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. {Ephesians 1:11-14}
I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, Calvin believes we can't know who that mercy falls on, but Paul does! 1 Timothy 1:13 “Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.”
its important to provide information statements made on both sides so you dont look like a gossiper all who read will want to know where you get your information from so it will have some validation
How does macArther know he was chooses since you can be called but all not chosen. cause he's a pastor. Couldn't this guy be false teaching also THATS WHY YOU TEST EVERYTHING WHERE IS THE CONTEXT HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT EACH VERSE MEANS WITHOUT THE CONTEXT
So let me get this straight. God commands us to love our fellow man but he is not going to love ALL men but some? That's not my God of love ,grace and mercy.
@@aTruster I do not call God John MacArthur that's for sure. He has some good things to say most times but this is messed up. Good chose all of us no matter how theologically small this makes people feel! But I do agree that just because he chose us doesn't mean all will believe and trust.
Mark Mullen, I used to dislike this doctrine of predestination as well. But you must accept God as revealed in the Bible. Paul explains election thoroughly in Eph 1 & Romans 9; God chose Abraham, chose Israel, all choices from love. Jesus Himself made many angry who left Him because He talked about election - John 6:65-66. Men hate election because they have a grand view of themselves, they think mankind is "good" or at least partially good. Not the case. Election is the only way anyone would choose to desire God instead of evil. There are dozens of other verses that support election.
Calvinism: A doctrine that insinuates that a Sovereign God cannot convince a depraved sinner to accept irresistible grace. The points of the Tulip contradict themselves.
Calvinism: A doctrine that affirms that man, enslaved to his sinful nature, CANNOT choose God (Romans 3:10-17) and that because of this shows the power and mercy of God by His ability to change the hearts of unrepentant sinners into those who would worship a good, just, and loving God.
If god is all good and without sin, if he’s the creator of all things. Does that make him the author of sin? When he created Adam and Eve he knew Eve would eat from the tree and predestined that to happen. Why? Why create us If he knew we would sin and plunge the world into death.
Vain teaching. Absolutely empty and pointless. MacArthur (and other false teachers) promotes the false dichotomy of heaven and hell... Election has to do with those who God chose to be the firstfruits of His Kingdom, which was inaugurated in AD 70... That's why Jesus and John the Baptist declared the Kingdom of Heaven was "at hand"... and why Paul said that the resurrection and judgment were "impending" in the first century (Acts 24:15; Acts 26:22).
I pray you come to the place where you realize this man isn't one of the false teachers, but a man inspired by God to rightly interpret the scriptures, to bring men to a greater knowing of God's character.
@@joshualesley I CANNOT IMAGINE A MORE READY INSTRUMENT IN THE HANDS OF SATAN FOR THE RUIN OF SOULS THAN A MINISTER WHO TELLS SINNERS IT IS NOT THEIR DUTY TO REPENT OF THEIR SINS OR TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST,AND WHO HAS THE ARROGANCE TO CALL HIMSELF A GOSPEL MINISTER,WHILE HE TEACHES THAT GOD HATES SOME MAN INFINITLY AND UNCHANGEABLY FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE HE CHOOSES TO DO SO. SPURGEON.
Nugget of Truth - Eric King Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
I believe what Mc is preaching. It's in black and white. So this means I have more Revelation than all thoses men blasting John. 😂 😂 😂 Keep preaching the truth brother.
I have a question, if we are predestined , why does John 3.:16 say for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that WHOSOEVER Believes in him shall be saved , Explain this to me
Why didn't he ever actually debate calvinism? The Basics:. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (NOW!) and thou shalt be saved." Rejecters will not be. Why wouldn't the myriads of similar verses not say "those chosen to believe at creation will be saved"? Because it would be an accursed predestined different gospel! Those that do believe are predestined to be conformed to Christ's image. Will "it was predestined" to explain one's deeds be a viable excuse at the Great White Throne Judgement? Believe and trust the Bible, not men! Let God be true and every man a liar!
Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Now when they heard this, *they were pricked in their heart* and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? Then Peter said unto them, *Repent and be baptized* every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, *and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost* {Acts 2:36-38}
Dr MacArthur is the best teacher I’ve had in my 40 yrs of being a Christian... thank you 🙏
Best heretic and blasphemer
@@endtimesareuponus8930 how is he a blasphemer?
Serious question
@@ayeayroncali6977 use Google to find out. Duh. Don't ask stupid questions.
@@ayeayroncali6977 Strange how @endtimesareuponus8930 didn't attempt to answer your question. This kind of commenter always resorts to character assassination and bomb throwing when he or she has no reputable evidence or argument to put forward.
The question for those who deny God's sovereignty in election, must be why are you not telling every person you meet....the Gospel message? Because if they are only waiting for you to offer Jesus Christ to them, and you fail to do this, then you must be sending them to hell by your laziness or carelessness. Now that would be monstrous!
When I joined a sound church that taught God's sovereignty, and was busier in evangelism than I had ever known, everything fell into place. I believe John MacArthurs words hit the nail on the head, when he said we need to submit to God's word.
Obviously we cannot understand everything God does, but it brings enormous peace to simply accept. Submit.
I would be interested to hear a preacher who does not accept the total sovereignty of Almighty God...refute all the scriptures that Pastor John so faithfully expounded. Disprove them one by one, it cannot be done. Thankyou Pastor John.
I love all Pastor MacArthur’s sermons. He continuously teaches biblically sound doctrine. We need more men like him in the pulpit!
Are you mental or brain washed. Election. So what happened with free will. God choose you, and his elect cannot refuse. Bottom line you know nothing about the Bible. Simple question is jesus god? According to your super hero he is not.
Sadly John with the likes of R C Sproul preach an exclusive gospel which is clearly nothing but heresy.🙄😪
Tommy's got that right.
God called me out of darkness one evening laying in bed with my husband. I ended up in a drug rehab because my family thought I'd done drugs they had to release me after seeing I was not on drugs then I ended up in a mental hospital because they said I was taking the God thing to serious. It's been a long road but I'm more blessed the ever and thankful for his calling
Keep fighting the good fight and remember God is by your side always.
A religious conversion *does* have a very drug-like quality; I’ve had a couple. This is part of the reason many rehab programs will deliberately induce them.
Cool thing is, it doesn’t necessarily matter what you are converted into. It just needs to be big enough to subsume all your worldly concerns.
Barbara Rehfuss Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
@@somexp12 it matters. you just did the worng ones. space cadet
@@uncasunga1800 Perhaps, but I never hear you folks describe anything that isn't perfectly mundane. Most likely, it only appears extraordinary to people who, living in a small world, lack a basis for comparison. It is rather depressing to witness this, knowing what is probably really going on.
This is an excellent sermon. John McCarthur is one of the best pastors out there. He has taught me a lot, and his reasoning is spot on. He stays truthful to the scripture, he doesn't sugar coat anything.
Sadly John is caught in a heretic disparagement of the Fathers Mercy, Love and the finished work of the Cross and the blood of Christ.
One only has to read Matthew 5 to see this.
John preaches a false exclusive gospel, what we might call...God in a matchbox
@brianbrodie8331 No, he is faithful to the Word of God. And I can see the logic in all his comments, and we lucky to have someone who doesn't tell us what we want to hear, but tells us what we need to hear.
@@friendyadvice2238 John has made mistakes, too. Anyone can use the scriptures to justify almost anything.
The gift of salvation to the Elect is utterly beyond comprehension. Blessed are those indeed who receive this amazing undeserved gift.
Amen.
the gift of salvation is for all those who believe. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing the word of God.
@@keith3362 Yes, and only those who are called hear and then believe. That is God’s amazing and sovereign will.
@@daniellecarney1487 Jesus said 'And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. (John 12:32, KJV). Isaiah says 'ALL we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us ALL. (Isaiah 53:6, KJV) If you believe the first all in that scripture means all people, the second is the same word, same context. Jesus also said 'For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.” (John 6:40, NASB). He didn't say who is elected/called like calvinists believe. He said everyone who believes in Him. And faith is not a work, no matter how you can spin it. When the apostles were asked what must someone do to be saved, they didn't reply be one of the elect, be called, they said “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” (Acts 16:31, NASB) Calvinists won't admit it but they really don't believe people are saved by grace through faith. They believe people are saved by grace through election, before birth, before the world. But that isn't what the bible says. It says 'we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. (Galatians 3:14, NASB), and 'But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name, (John 1:12, NASB)
@@daniellecarney1487False.
One of my many favorite doctrines “election “! MacArthur is a great bible teacher, and explains in best.
Believers who struggle with election, typically struggle with the notion that they saved themselves. Salvation from the Lord is according to His grace and mercy. Nothing we can do to earn salvation.
Would you be interested in debating Calvinism online?
Man is corrupt to the core, I'm corrupt to the core Hallelujah alive in Christ , my grace is sufficient for thee
@@AKRichardson with whom ?
A man cannot come to Christ unless he believes on Him. The Father draws all men (elect and non elect) to Jesus Christ (John 12:32) and gives them the privilege of repenting of their sin and trusting Jesus Christ as their Savior (Acts 11:18). The whole operation is laid out in Romans 10:8-21
@@AKRichardson so you're trying to disprove the Bible? John McArthur reads out of the Bible and you don't believe him, that means that you don't believe the Bible. Why would someone want to argue with you about that? Do you think that I would argue with someone over the Easter bunny being real? It's your pride.......
The Lord God has great love for us, and the same here, when I was lost totally lost he was there for me when no one else was. I look at what kind of person I am not nice at times ! I say God really has great love to put up with me ! I am thankful for his patience with me, cause it it was a human being they would have been done with me ages ago ! Thank you my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Amen.
This is sooooo beautiful and detailed teaching I just cry out to God in thankfulness for Dr. MacArthur’s diligence in expounding the truth of Scripture!!!
Thank you, John MacArthur, for giving us another wonderful sermon. Your sermons are a great gift to believers.
BLIND be leaders of the BLIND. Both shall fall into the ditch. But you ppl are so deceived doesn't realize it under the spell of his demonic Manichaeism theology sorceries.
Hallelujah!!!!
The word of God is the absolute truth
This verse can calm our hearts and minds when we feel confused and lacking answers.
Romans 11:33
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
He called us, chose us before the beginning of the world
We are warned of false teachers and to use the Holy Spirit to discern truth from heresy. Do not be fooled, whosoever believes in Jesus, IS called of God and shares Jesus', the only elect one, election. Praise God for His grace in Christ. All come short of the glory of God. None are righteous, no NOT one.
and he called everybody, to the very ends of the earth in "LOOK UNTO ME, AND BE YE SAVED ALL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH: FOR I AM GOD THERE IS NONE ELSE" - God. Isaiah 45:22
Because, God is not willing any perish, but all come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9
Where Calvinists, like this clown, John MacArthur - "limits" it. It's people - make light of it. And those that make light of his call to EVERYBODY, to the very ends of the earth, he's not saving them.
He doesn't turn away anybody. Wants all to come to him. It's people, reject or make light of him.
It would be nice if one day Calvinists woke up to the doctrine of it's not a doctrine. and stop making doctrines...and just believe in the gospel. What Jesus Christ did, is God was in him doing the work, that passed onto EVERYBODY, made everyone righteous, just as Adam's sin passed onto everyone and death by sin, passed onto everybody.
It's like Esau, sell your birthright for a bowl of soup. Talking to a Calvinist is like talking to a Mormon. No different.
YOU , Sir. Are the false teacher that we need to watch for!!!! You cleverly turn the doctrine of election upside down!!!
It is your carnal flesh that hates the doctrine of election.
Ephesians, chapter 1 is very clear, very clear, very clear...
The Bible explains as John MacArthur carefully introduces what many will not accept nor satisfied, l myself don't agree with everything that any teacher or pastor explains but John MacArthur is one who God lead me to confirm what God placed in my heart.
I CANNOT IMAGINE A MORE READY INSTRUMENT IN THE HANDS OF SATAN FOR THE RUIN OF SOULS THAN A MINISTER WHO TELLS SINNERS IT IS NOT THEIR DUTY TO REPENT OF THEIR SINS OR TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST,AND WHO HAS THE ARROGANCE TO CALL HIMSELF A GOSPEL MINISTER,WHILE HE TEACHES THAT GOD HATES SOME MAN INFINITLY AND UNCHANGEABLY FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE HE CHOOSES TO DO SO.
SPURGEON.
@@peralopenaify mr Lopez, John believes precisely what Charles spurgeon dose. Spurgeon believed that God Chose you you can’t choose him. John MacArthur believes you must repent and believe.
John Macarthur, due to his Calvinism, has admitted that God may not have elected some or 1 of his children, and he will be fine with it. It's insane.
John MacArthur shys away from nothing. He preaches the Bible the way it is written. God bless he and other ministers like him.
He's preaching your eternal home may be hell.
ruclips.net/video/_onQTPkUvmA/видео.html
If he preached the Word the way it is written he wouldn't preach that God only destined some to eternal life. He wouldn't preach that Jesus only died for some, not all. He preaches a completely Pharisaical gospel. The Pharisees believed that they were saved because they were the elect, and everyone else be damned. He completely ignores scripture that contradicts this false gospel. He makes a good argument purely by arguing that men cannot judge God for what He does.
"For God so loved the world (all men) that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life."
"God desires that all men be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth."
"Because Christ died, all are dead (spiritually)...." (If Christ's death made ALL men dead, then the Calvinist is the only one dead that needs a Savior.)
God did not harden Pharoah's heart. According to the Bible, Pharoah hardened his own heart, and God made a judicial judgement to permanently harden his heart because Pharoah already determined to keep his heart hard. God did not MAKE Pharoah a bad seed. The Bible says that all were made from the same lump, so He didn't make one good and another bad. God is an equal opportunity Savior. The Bible says God ENDURED Pharoah, not MADE him a bad seed.
Israel was chosen, but not all Israel was saved. So, election doesn't mean salvation.
Election and predestination is always used in the plural, not the singular. The doctrine of predestination in the New Testament is always talking about the Predestination of the Church, and the Church was predestined to be of those who put their trust in Jesus Christ.
Jesus said, "When I be lifted up, I will draw ALL men unto me." And, Romans 1 tells us that God has given all men sufficient evidence of Himself and some CHOOSE not to believe and they suppress the truth.
When Jesus said that nobody can come to Him unless the Father calls him, He specifically says the reason He said that is because He "knew who did not believe."
When it comes to Jacob and Esau, the Bible is clear that Esau didn't believe, and God FOREKNEW Esau before he was born.
The Bible says that God predestined to eternal life those He FOREKNEW. God knew ahead of time who would believe and therefore predestined every believer to eternal life.
Three hours of preaching a false gospel, and Macarthur left out all the verses that contradict his false gospel.
Study the character and teachings of the Pharisees and you will find Calvinism replaced them.
I'm afraid that all the praise and trust that people give this man will come back to bite them someday. How can a man with any sense translate the word "all" to mean "the elect." That is what you would normally call delusion.
Calvinism is a delusion.
@@endtimesareuponus8930 No, he Is preaching the bible accurately. If @catsfsn1983 believes the gospel and has repented, then he Is one of the elect and Is saved because he believes and repented. If he has not believed and not repented, then his home may be hell, but we don't know when God will call and save someone. You like many others who do not understand scripture make up straw man arguments and engage In scripture twisting by making comments COMPLETELY out of context of any surrounding scripture.
It's TRULY BIBLICAL what Ps. John is teaching! God HAS chosen, predestined those of us who have heard or read the gospel and gotten saved, having the righteousness of God imputed unto us who believe it! One cannot believe unless the Lord has chosen that person to believe! It has to do with the
SOVEREIGNTY of God Almighty! THY WILL BE DONE on earth as it is in Heaven!
evil liar its not by your effort hahahahhahahaha
thats the total opposite
John 3:16
For God so loved the WORLD
that He gave His only Son that
WHOSOEVER believeth in Him should
NOT PERISH but have everlasting life!
Yes He Loved the world He has made so that those who believe- whom He causes to believe- will not die and be wiped out- otherwise there would be no one left. Isaiah 1.
John 3 continues to tell believers that he that believes not is condemned already.
He then says chapter 13 He loved His Own whom the Father had given them out of the world and loved them til the end.
He said I pray NOT for the world...
He will call His Elect from the 4 winds...
You have to actually read the whole bible and actually repent and be born of the Spirit to believe the bible and accept the Real God. Not some puppet mickey mouse cult tradition who puts murderers and pedophiles in with actual believers.
You have never believed the Bible. Just a religious tradition from some easy believism cult.
@@uncasunga1800 Amen Amen. For us to believe in the Holy & Mighty God. God has to reveal Himself to us and draw us to Him by the Holy Spirit! You cannot come to God by our way. We have all sinned and fall short of His Glory and deserve eternal punishment! We are like filthy rags. And there is none that is righteous. And no good works that we can do to receive the gift of salvation! Jesus Christ said that it is finished! Jesus Christ paid the debt that we could not pay! God knew man would sin! God knew that the devil would rebel against Him! God knew that His Son Jesus Christ is the only way that man could be saved! But still knowing all that, God created man. And showed us His great love for us. Through His Son Jesus Christ!
This video is the first teaching I heard on election and convinced me of it and believed it for a few years until I came across beyond the fundamentals a video called election is nothing like you were told and also predestination is nothing like you were told
“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.” (John 6:44) This is a difficult doctrine to swallow, but if you truly serve God you must accept it. My godless father and brother who both died young as unrepentant sinners were never intended to be among God’s people. My mother who is too proud to even consider herself a sinner may not be intended for salvation. My wife and child who have seen the undeniable supernaturally driven change in me are actively seeking God. They are likely among God’s elect. Accept the truth of scripture. God has every right to send us all to hell and it would not diminish his character in the slightest. It is dangerous to question or deny God’s sovereignty, righteousness, and holiness.
John shows a remarkable understanding and insight into the meaning of some very difficult scriptures on "predestination" that we cannot just discount because they do not line up with the sentiments of our sense of logic.God is INFINITE and OMNISCIENT and His Ways are far above ours.Election does not have to mean exclusion, says Dr. Walter Martin and many others.. Cling to The Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and then you do not have to worry about this difficult Doctrine because you will be Saved Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be Saved and thy house. Amen !,
Curt..your point is well taken.First , we must define terms...the sad fact of the matter is this...Not everyone who calls himself a Christian ..is one !....recent surveys of last year tell us that 73 percent of americans claim to be Christians and only 10 percent of those, know the basic fundamentals of the faith. The pure Gospel of Jesus Christ shows Him to be the only way to Salvation and eternal life. Through His shedding of Blood on Calvary for, the remission of sin.All of us deserve hell because we are sinners living in a cesspool of sin with no hope of redemtion other than God's gift of eternal life through Christ.If you are one who has the Faith to believe, Repent and ask Jesus to be Lord and Savior..you are Saved, sealed and redeemed for all eternity.. There are a multitude of scriptures that tell us of this fact...Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be Saved ! acts 16:31...When they heard this, they had no further objections and praised God, saying, "So then, even to Gentiles God has granted repentance that leads to life Acts 11:18 .There are many more scriptures in the doctrine of Salvation and The Assurance of Salvation and the Lord has setted this with me so as to give to me the peace that passes all understanding. I pray He will give it to you also.
@@dbrinkm1 Amen!
Dana Brinkmeier,
'Election and Predestination' is indeed a biblical doctrine because it is
in the
scriptures...
However John Calvin failed to understand the entirety of this doctrine....
He had known half of it only and added his own understanding to this
doctrine
of 'Election and Predestination'....
So, Calvinism is Truth mixed with Lies and it is more dangerous than
lies alone....
I have asked several Calvinists this question, which none of them were
able to
answer, because it was not taught by John Calvin who himself
did not know the answer....
My Question :
How did God Choose those whom He will save? Surely God have some
basis
for His choice.... He did not just pick them at random....
The Answer is:
Of course God choose His own children...
It is in the scriptures that there are two groups of people in this world,
'The Sheep and the goats' or 'The Wheat and the Tares'....
In the Parable of 'The wheat and Tares', Jesus Himself explained who
are
these two groups of people, and where did they come from...
The 'Sheep or Wheat' are the true children of God, and they will be saved...
The 'goats or tares' are of the devil and they are damned.....
The Sheep or Wheat are the True children of God not only by creation but
by HEREDITY....
I CAN PROVE THIS TO YOU IF YOU ARE INTERESTED....
The Sheep inherited the character of God,
The goats inherited the character of the devil.....
After the Fall of Adam and Eve, All the children of God are affected and
inherited the fallen nature of Adam and Eve, they did not inherit the sin
but the sinful nature....
That's why Jesus came to give His life for ransom to save the Elect....
(hope this clarifies you)
The elects were fallen and they need to be saved....
There is no OSAS in the scriptures, it is the wrong understanding of
John Calvin...
All the elect will definitely be saved, not one will be lost....
John 17:12(KJV)
''While I was with them in the world, I kept them in your name: those that
you
gave me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the
'''son of perdition'''; that the scripture might be fulfilled.''
(the son of perdition is Judas, he is not the child of God, but the son of
perdition, a goat)
Example of Goats :
Cain, Judas, some of the pharisees, pharaoh in the time of Moses.
Example of Sheep :
Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, The apostles except Judas....
NOTE :
The difference between the Sheep and the goats....
The Sheep though they are in the fallen state, they still love God and
desire
to please God,
Not the goats, they don't love God but only their selves...
(all of us are in fallen state; in sinful nature... but some love God and
desire
to please God, while others don't love God and don't desire to
please God)
Calvin's TOTAL DEPRAVITY is a false teaching.....
The elect are NOT totally evil, but totally HELPLESS to overcome sin....
That's why we need Jesus Christ to save us, and we need to hear the true
gospel because even though we are chosen, we are not aware of the
gospel of Jesus Christ, unless we hear it from those who were sent to
preach..
..
Look at Cain, he has no respect to God, he faced God with anger and
blamed God for his sin of killing Abel....
How about John 3:16 ?
John 3:16(NIV)
''For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
whoever
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.''
''Whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life''==>>Only
the
Elect will believe because they are the True Children of God and
Have the character of God....
The goats are of the devil, they hate God and don't have the ability to
repent...
Look at Judas, he prefer to hang himself than to repent of what he has
done....
''Go unto all the world and preach the gospel to all creatures''==>>Only
the
Sheep will believe the gospel and repent..... Thanks for reading....
@@52RGD I agree !...you make some good points...especially..The elect are NOT totally evil, but totally HELPLESS to overcome sin. Every person alive sins and is in need of forgiveness,,propitiation and sanctification which only the death ,and resurrection of Christ can bring to fulfill God's plan of Redemtion to a fallen human race which also includes all of creation including the animal kingdom for even the world groaneth in trevail for redemption. Thank God the Holy Spirit for giving us the ability to turn away from sin although we still do on occasion stumble and have to confess and ask for forgiveness.Sin has been most devastating for all concerned.ever..Brother....See you in Glory !
@@dbrinkm1,
Thanks Dana, Are you a woman? There are some Dana who are male :))
This docterin demonstratess the importance of presenting the gospel to as many as you see for withhout hearing there can be no salvation.
John MacArthur, I have listened to you for many years, and believe some because of your
preaching but also from the presence of The Holy Spirit's guidance, teaching, and guarding
in my life here. I feel redeemed by the grace of the sacrifice in humility of Jesus Christ of
dying in assumption of my sins, as fully man, and fully God, and as SO, restored to LIFE, as
God's first fruit, setting The pathway for following believers of mankind, to salvation..
You're teaching from different gospel .
God love the world this is my God and who believe on him he will have eternal life
John MacArthur is the greatest teacher and a true man pf God, because of him I came to faith!
Calvinism is Satanic
1 John 2:1-2: "My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father-Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world."
World is qualified. You must understand the context of the verse. If Jesus saves every single people on the earth then there wont be hell in the first place. The whole world in this context means everyone whom God predestined to be saved, from many nation, tribe, and tongue. not just jews
@@drumondfanton2699 not wishing for Any to perish but for all to come to repentance.
Not all accept the gospel.
We choose.
God provides the shed blood and the grace.
@@drumondfanton2699 you didn't read the verse.
Go ahead, read it.....
Jesus did die for the whole world otherwise God’s elect couldn’t be saved out of the world.
People HATE to think they don’t have control and that God is equally glorified in his justice as he is in his mercy.
Good doctrinal message. It is better to be called as an Elect than a Christian or a believer . Thanks for the message.
You may not be one of the elect.
Well you won't be one of the Elect if you are not a believer !.
@@endtimesareuponus8930: or He may be ..
God knows His elect.
The Early Church fathers who were the successors to the Apostles emphatically denied pre-determinism which was a teaching of their opponents, the Gnostics. For the first three centuries after the Apostles, free will was the mainstream orthodox teaching. Augustine of Hippo was responsible for importing elements of what we know as TULIP into the Church. He did so because, before his conversion, he had been a Gnostic. People assume the TULIP paradigm is Christian because it has been around a long time but ancient error is still error.
Absolutely no citations screams hearsay.
@@douglasmcnay644 scream all you want.
Truth is truth.
@peralopenaify This would have been shocking news to the Apostles John, Peter and Paul who wrote the majority of the New Testament and who all write about being chosen and predestined.
@@douglasmcnay644No citations needed, Augustine rejected Manichaeism in His earlier in His writings, but in His debate with Pelagius picked back up the teachings of Mani, and doubled down, like double predestination Neo-Platonic style!!
Since I had to leave Grace Community and John’s teaching and move to Texas, I have found it impossible to find correct and sound teaching in the thirty plus Churches I’ve visited and attended. It’s an absolute disgrace. These Texans have a REAL problem with election. So very arrogant and man centered. Who’d have thought the best teaching in the country would come from my crazy home state- California! So deeply grateful for my time there and for John’s ministry, as well as Phil Johnson’s. I feel like if I don’t listen to recordings like this, I will go absolutely crazy with the corrupted garbage I’ve had to listen to out there. “By His doing, not yours”, as John says here.
Steve Lawson and Costi Hinn are pastors of good solid churches in Texas. You might be close enough to attend one of them
@@pam2viph Thank you. Yes, Steve Lawson is excellent, but I’m nowhere near Dallas. Hinn, a rather unfortunate last name, though he is attending Masters Seminary, I believe is in Arizona. I have since found a church that is an hour away from my home, and though no Grace Community, has , essentially, the correct beliefs. God Bless.
Dallas theological seminary is known for turning out dispensationalists, which have had an unbelievably damaging influence on American Christianity.
My understanding of God's election of us for salvation after reading his Word is that God is all-knowing and has created us with a freewill to put our faith in him for all things. But because of sin we now put our faith in created things which separate us from God. God has sent his Son, Jesus Christ to redeem us if we after hearing the gospel will with a repentant heart accept, believe and put our faith in Jesus Christ as our Savior. God being all-knowing already knows who will do this and they are his elect. Both before they do it and also after they do it. We are eternally his, Praise His Name.
Your understanding is useless; doesn't matter how many times you read a bible, because your understanding is FLESH! So what good does it do? Do you think these things are fleshly appraised? But if the Spirit came along side and instructed you with holy conviction, then you'd understand rightly. But as it is, you mistakenly think christianity is reading a bible and making a decision. That's a start. But that doesn't complete anything. You cannot even have understanding while you are still an incomplete man apart from Christ. Understanding is a fruit of the Spirit, and fruit cannot be produced unless you are complete in Christ. Try reading the bible with full heartfelt prayer and asking for God's guidance..Your free will phony nonsense is mere religion and nothing else. You have the free will to choose cherry or grape; that's about it. But when it comes to spiritual matters you are blind. You are in bondage to the ruler of this world, and only turning to Jesus lifts the veil over your eyes.
@@Caleb-xf5yn Dear Caleb-xf5yn, you seem to be hostile toward me for directing people to with a repentant heart, to believe and put their faith in Jesus Christ as their Savior. Please read the following:
What we need to know about ourselves from God's Word and our only hope of being justified before a Holy and righteous God: [WHY WE HAVE NO HOPE IN OURSELVES: Mk. 7:20-23 And he (Jesus) said, That which comes out of the man, that defiles the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things (sins) come from within, and defile the man.] [WHY WE NEED A SAVIOR: Rom. 3:10-28 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understands, there is none that seeks after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that does good, no, not one. Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips: Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are in their ways: And the way of peace have they not known: There is no fear of God before their eyes. Now we know that what things so ever the law says, it says to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his (God's) sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ to all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God has set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believes in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Joh. 3:16 For God so loved the world (us), that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Joh. 14:6 Jesus said to him (us), I am the way (salvation), the truth (assurance), and the life (eternal): no man comes to (God) the Father, but by me (God the Son). Rom. 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:]
Did God choose us or did we choose God?
Yep 🙌🏼✝️
“Divine sovereignty and human responsibility have never had a falling out with each other.”
Charles Spurgeon
@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC if it were up to me in any way, I would lose my salvation and never be sanctified. Thank God it's not up to me what the Holy Spirit does and how he does it. I do the best that I can though.....
False … they have fallen out today. Consider trump the CHRIST. Consider the American church… the SUPERIOR elect
@@Madcow7777
Not so. Please read your Bible.
@@CaptainsLady god chose but one Christ. The anointed ONE. Sovereign mighty god, but America says “no… he chose two” trump also. Christians calling themselves elect and stealing his election. It ain’t about free will honey. DIVORCED I say!!! Because god chose Jesus. There ain’t no other.
God doesn't send anyone to hell its by their on free will.
Romans 9:16
So then it depends not on human will or exertion but God Who has mercy
See Dr. Ken Wilson's research on the writings of Augustine, to find out why Augustine invented the doctrine now known as "Calvinism" to explain how infants could become the "elect" through water baptism. Since the child had not come to faith, it must be based on the will of another. It could have nothing to do with the will of the child. And now we have those who call themselves "Baptists" promoting Augustine's denial of free will, which was originally invented to justify infant baptism. Leighton Flowers did an excellent interview with Dr. Wilson on the RUclips channel, "Soteriology 101".
ruclips.net/video/BnOMORGM2Qw/видео.html
It should be called "Paulism". It was the Apostle Paul that penned this doctrine by the Holy Spirit in Romans. And many believe there is a age of accountability. Notice in Exodus 13:14 that all those under 20yrs of age were allowed into the promise land.
ruclips.net/video/ls3MCdHFJpA/видео.html
Ida ChildofGod Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
Waoh , You are if not the greatest , then one of the greatest of the word of God . I live you Sir
Greatest satinist.
@@endtimesareuponus8930 😂 what a laughable claim. I bet you hate people that only say what's in the Bible
@@dustinwho4252 you're as STUPID as they get !!!
I enjoy listening to John MacArther and I know that he has studied his Bible. I have been saved almost 60 years. My Salvation was just as secure the moment I was saved as I am today. I know my Bible as well as anyone when it comes to Salvation. I have witnessed (shared God's Simple plan of Salvation) well over 20,000 times in my lifetime. The Holy Spirit is our teacher. Yes I went to Bible College, but I learned my Bible by introducing people to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. The fruit of the righteous is a tree of Life, and he that winneth Souls is wise. Proverbs 11:30 KJV and Daniel 12:3 KJV. 2 Corinthians 5:15 And that He died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto Him which died for them, and rose again. Note, And that He died for "all",.!! All means all, not just the ones that God knew would accept the offer of the free gift of Salvation. John Calvin and Jacobus Armenius were both born during the 1500s or you would say the 16th Century. The Bible was completed within the first 100 years after Jesus Christ and His resurrection. I am a Bible believer. I don't have to follow after men, I have the ability to think for myself. Salvation is Eternal the moment you are Saved. God doesn't give away Everlasting Life and then take it back, that's impossible. Predestination has to do with God's foreknowledge and yes God's Holy Spirit does draw people to His Salvation. This is not complicated. But I am not a follower of Calvin or Armenius, because I am a follower of Christ and of His Blood that He shed on the Cross to pay for my sins and His Death that sealed the deal. He could not have died by natural causes, or by suffocation or any other means, unless He shed His Blood and died. The Blood was the currency used to Satisfy a just and Holy God. His Death was necessary in order to complete the task of redemption. I say to you that it took both the Blood of Christ and His Death to Satisfy God's plan. So many great verses on the Blood. Romans 5:9 KJV
Revelation 1:5 KJV
Calvinism IS biblical Christianity 💯
God has put people in the office of teacher for a reason, if you aren't one, you need to be under one
I say all this with sincere respect, and love. I’m not angry, this is just something that is weighing heavily on me because it makes perfect sense from the Scriptures I read and yet you and others make it to be this enigma in a riddle wrapped in a mystery.
Jaxon Holden Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
In regards to the first reply!! If someone comes to you saying that Jesus sent them to give you a message........ flee from that person.
This is cutting me so deep...
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Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
Have you ever read the parable of the sower in the light of election? The principles of God's election is vividly explained there. And we can see that God's election is based not on individual's traits but on his principles. People who would be willing to accept God's gift and persevere through whatever circumstances are elected. Not only are they elected, God intervenes for them whenever it is necessary; to enlighten the truth, and to help them persevere. But never goes beyond their will.
I think it is important to understand that there are strong alternatives to Calvinism, that also believe in election and predestination, but with a different dictionary. Be a good scholar and Berean, seek out the strongest arguments on BOTH sides, pray about it and work it out between you and God.
Just don't go about believing that because the Bible uses words like election, it must mean what MacArthur says it means. Again, there are other options. Hear what other sides say for themselves, not what one side says about them. Not everyone who doesn't believe Calvinism is an Armenian. You've heard what one of the foremost Calvinists of today believes from his own mouth, now go listen to some on the other side, compare and contrast.
Although this issue holds importance, the most important thing is that ultimately we all trust in Christ for our salvation, and thus are the family of God.
You said there are other points of view that believe in election and predestination that aren't Armenian but are different than calvanism. Would you give me some direction on a particular sermon, person, or denomination that I could research on. Thank you
Stephen Moody hey there, so while there aren't many resources that don't fall under the usual Calv-Arm camp, a few resources that may help include the book "Determined to Believe" by John Lennox, and the podcast Soteriology 101 by Leighton Flowers has just done a series of some informative 15 minute topical episodes going over different words like elect and predestine, and definitions in and outside of Calv and Arm. (Just fyi he is more "free will" leaning)
While I might be considered more "free will", I don't believe one can lose one's salvation as many Arminians do, and I have some various other differences from them.
Another resource you might find interesting is a book called "Foundations of Augustinian Calvinism" by Dr. Ken Wilson. It's a condensed version of his doctoral thesis at Oxford exploring the origins of deterministic leanings in historical Christianity, very well researched and informative.
Chapter 22 in AW Tozer's "Knowledge of the Holy" discusses sovereignty in a different light than that of Calvinism, and is an interesting read.
CS Lewis also has some very interesting thoughts on free will and predestination at the end of "The Great Divorce".
I hope these help, If I find any more I'll try to post them.
Likewise if there is a resource that may help my understanding of the various sides of this issue you'd recommend, please list it!
Thank you for some leads on where to broaden my research on gods sovereignty vs are free will. I dont myself have any suggeations to offer you regarding this topic since I just started evaluating this area. It is very interesting because the two sides appear to be in conflict with each other although I believe they are both true at the same time because the scriptures give evidence for both. I believe God knows we have a very strong desire to feel like were directing ourselves even if were aren't. Im not going to judge god because I know his ways are not my ways and I dont know his purpose, I mostly want everybody to have the chance to believe. Im going to have to read some more its an area im just beginning to define. Thanks again
Hey Hayden! I always find that people that have differing view points hardly actually study this end of it, and fill themselves with the opposing view.. did you watch this video? And what are your thoughts on this video in particular? If I’m ever going to change my belief set id have to see this view analyzed and not a view with different definitions. Leighton flowers doesn’t fully understand Calvinism, although he is familiar with the 5 points of grace. He seems to always attack a more hyper form of Calvinism, and not the orthodox reformed view
I also highly recommend watching james white versus leighton flowers on the romans 9 debate! The exegesis of Romans 9 showed me God’s sovereignty more than anything. And it was good to hear 2 men talking and not a recording of one man !
Thank you God for such powerful narrator and word🙏🙏🙏🙏
God doesnt reject anyone; He rejects the foundation of which they choose to work their own righteousness For no flesh shall be justified by the works of the law'...
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He's a satinist.
You may not be one of the "elect".
@@endtimesareuponus8930 you might want to back up that slander with some proof
@@endtimesareuponus8930no, YOU'RE THE SATANIST 💯
@@endtimesareuponus8930I'm certain I am but you really need to repent. No exits in HELL 🔥 son
In the Old Testament, on several occasions, God chose a Remnant, an ELECT group who would carry forward His plans: He had to make such a selection because no one sought Him and His righteousness. The Scriptures declare that there is none good, that no one seeks after God, and except that God sovereignly ‘elected’ some for His own purposes, no one would be saved! It is unthinkable that God would deny salvation to anyone that sought Him and His righteousness! So, we need not fret over God’s having elected, decreed that a Remnant would be saved, for had He not done so, no one would be saved! Further more, there is a greater opportunity/chance that others, beside the elect, will be saved, because of the testimony, the observed lifestyles of the elect!
Romans 1 and 2 talk about those who are with out law and do so are better than those who have the law and don’t act upon. The conscious speaks to us conscious spoke to the gentiles back them. Free will has always existed. There for the gift of God is for all of those who want to call him lord and savior.
You are chosen. I had to walk away from my family as a result of His salvation. You will be fine
No one would choose God of their own volition. Dead sinners don’t choose anything.
We love Him because He first loved us. How do we love God? Faith and obediece.
So how do you explain 2 Peter 3:9? He is not willing that any should perish, but all come
To repentance! So confusing. I think Calvinism distorts the truth
Willing is probably better understood as "desires". However, consider this...God is defined by His attributes. Love, power, omniscience, truth, life, peace, justice...God demonstrates all of these characteristics so that people can trust that He is who He says that He is. We know that God is merciful because He has shown mercy. We know that He is powerful because He has demonstrated power. How does God show He is just? He MUST judge. He has to show that He is just by judging wickedness. If a human judge just let everyone go, we would say that he is a terrible judge. We can tell that one is a righteous judge by seeing their track record of doing according to the law, judging correctly. Man is born on a path to hell and will only continue to do as their broken nature dictates, which is to sin. Only by God's call can a person be saved because nobody seeks for God on their own. Now to us, this seems unfair. It sounds like God doesn't give everybody a chance. However, from God's perspective, it is entirely fair. He is letting people do exactly what they want and they will pay the consequences for their actions.
So who are the elect that the Bible talks about so much? What does the word elect mean? You just don't believe the Bible is it.. You won't accept God's sovereignty because of your pride.
If this doctrine is really being interpreted correctly, What's the point of trying to convert people? What's the point of praying for people to be saved?
The elect will all be saved. The woman at the well was chosen Jesus still had to talk to her and teach her.
@@bernardbennett1217 Yeah but Jesus is God. He was doing the election right there and then when he talked to that woman.
@@tommysuriel no he was not. you made that up. "Their names were writtehn in the lambs book before time"
You must be born again. otherwise you will never understand and never believe. your lies will not stand.
"He told me everything i ever did." Election is PRE destination not POST destination you jackwagon imtellectual derelict hahahahhaha
@@tommysurielbe careful as a non Calvinist to use the word election like they do. The Bible does not use election that way. Take a look at beyond the fundamentals a video called election is nothing like you were told. Hope it's useful
Amen! In our arrogance, we, mere humans, question God Almighty's will? We, handful of dust, think of ourselves more compassionate than God Almighty, Creator of ALL and ALL things! This is his universe - we don't have a universe! Praise God for He is perfect and NEVER makes mistakes!
Anyone with ears let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches
Ronny Carney Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
Real day experience proves it.
For most people its IMPOSSIBLE to believe but that doesnt mean some are chosen over others
Miles Clark Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
God chose evveryone He wants and whom He doesnt want. You and i cannot choose him.
John has mentioned it before, but what he's trying to say is, This isn't a liberal worldview where everyone gets a gold ribbon and goes to heaven like the Roman Catholic socialist pope believes.. GOD knows the end before the beginning begins. He preselects those who will believe in him and nurtures them along until bountiful faith takes over. Read The Attributes of God by Pink.
I read "the sovereignty of God" by pink
Awesome statement Ben Rumson.
Ben Rumson
Read the bible authored by God Himself and you’ll put away the foolishness of Calvinism.
@@evanu6579 you're a fucking IDIOT
Ben Rumson, John MacArthur himself in his other video said, that If God saw in the
future who will believe in Him... Then it is no longer election but reaction because He
saw those who will believe , then select them...
This is the dilemma of Calvinism.....
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There is a flaw in Calvinism, where the Calvinists failed to see it...
'Election and Predestination' is indeed a biblical doctrine because it is in the
scriptures...
However John Calvin failed to understand the entirety of this doctrine....
He had known half of it only and added his own understanding to this doctrine of
'Election and Predestination'....
So, Calvinism is Truth mixed with Lies and it is more dangerous than lies alone....
I have asked several Calvinists this question, which none of them were able to
answer, because it was not taught by John Calvin who himself did not know the
answer....
My Question :
How did God Choose those whom He will save? Surely God have some basis for
His choice.... He did not just pick them at random....
The Answer is:
Of course God choose His own children...
It is in the scriptures that there are two groups of people in this world, 'The Sheep
and the goats' or 'The Wheat and the Tares'....
In the Parable of 'The wheat and Tares', Jesus Himself explained who are these
two groups of people, and where did they come from...
The 'Sheep or Wheat' are the true children of God, and they will be saved...
The 'goats or tares' are of the devil and they are damned.....
The Sheep or Wheat are the True children of God not only by creation but by HEREDITY.
I can prove this to you if you are interested....
The Sheep inherited the character of God, The goats inherited the character of
the devil.....
After the Fall of Adam and Eve, All the children of God are affected and inherited
the fallen nature of Adam and Eve, they did not inherit the sin but the sinful nature....
That's why Jesus came to give His life for ransom to save the Elect....
(hope this clarifies you)
The elects were fallen and they need to be saved....
There is no OSAS in the scriptures, it is the wrong understanding of Calvin the murderer...
All the elect will definitely be saved, not one will be lost....
John 17:12(KJV)
''While I was with them in the world, I kept them in your name: those that you gave
me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the '''son of perdition'''; that the scripture
might be fulfilled.''
(the son of perdition is Judas, he is not the child of God, but the son of perdition,
a goat)
Example of Goats :
Cain, Judas, some of the pharisees, pharaoh in the time of Moses.
Example of Sheep :
Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, The apostles except Judas....
Note: The difference between the Sheep and the goats.... The Sheep though they
are in the fallen state, they still love God and desire to please God, Not the goats,
they don't love God but only their selves...
Look at Cain, he has no respect to God, he faced God with anger and blamed God
for his sin of killing Abel....
How about John 3:16 ?
John 3:16(NIV)
''For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.''
''Whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life''==>>Only the Elect
will believe because they are the True Children of God and Have the character of
God....
The goats are of the devil, they hate God and don't have the ability to repent...
Look
at Judas, he prefer to hang himself than to repent of what he has done....
''Go unto all the world and preach the gospel to all creatures''==>>Only the Sheep
will believe the gospel and repent..... Thanks for reading....
If you walk in the light you walk in the truth. Walking in the light is not ashamed!
The LORD GOD IS GOD, HE ALONE IS GOD.
He alone is good.
He is talking to the disciples, you did not choose me, but I chose you.... many scripture point to the preaching of the Gospel being the call of God.
You are correct
after reading about Jonah I'm not even sure that free choice is always a given.
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Scott Heitman, marine survey Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
And in Jonah, God ((already)) HAD PREPARED a fish! Because it all HAD TO HAPPEN! We call it Jonah being hard headed and stubborn... But there truth is, GOD WROTE IT in His minds book before the foundation of the world, so it had to happen. We're the expression of God's mind, words and thoughts from the foundation of the world. We're walking His plan out in real time.
freewwill is an illusion
the human will is enslaved
Johnnie Weems If you have believed then you have obeyed. This is not about “ not sinning “. And if you try to make it there on obedience then you’ll fail.
Sad but true that so many real Christians don't "study to show themselves approved unto God, workmen that needeth not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of truth (the Holy Bible)" 2 Timothy 2:15! Those who DO
study will see that the Lord is using dear Pastor MacArthur to explain what Jesus has to say according to scripture about election and predestination which is NOT Calvinistic teaching!!!
you wouldnt know what calvinist teaching is fako liar
Thank you Lord for doing all things to show forth your glory, power and dominion.
Fragrant offering to some others A senates to 💀 God has blessed the tongue of a scholar extraordinary to me amazing God is remarkable come Lord Jesus and for this I bow before the father
Ronny Carney Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
For those who have minds that can reason, then let us reason together.
Firstly why does God choose one and not another?
Or why does God actually choose at all?
Who does He choose?
And why do we need to be chosen.
Let’s cut right to the chase and consider the following to see whether or not it could be a possibility.
We know that God knew before creating the angels that one third of them would fall into rebellion.
And also we know that God didn’t need to send these fallen ones here to be with us.
But we also know that those who overcome satan’s temptations who temps us to rebel against God, will be of a greater character for overcoming them than those who were never tempted.
Perhaps this character is a necessary qualification for God to be able to make us in His own image.
And if this is true then we can say that God would have seen the rebellion in heaven as a magnificent opportunity, because it made possible for God to make man in His own image.
Perhaps God chooses because if He doesn’t choose, none would be saved.
Maybe this is how it is.
Maybe the powers of Satan are so powerful that unless Jesus Christ intercedes and chooses us we will not be saved.
And therefore as God knows who will and who won’t accept His offer, He predestines the life of those whom He knows will accept it so they can indeed accept it and be accepted by God.
On this basis God is choosing on merit alone. For He knows those who will accept His offer. Therefore He orchestrates their lives so they can indeed repent.
Interesting subject.
Stop trying to figure out why God does what he does, our simple brains aren't capable of it.
@@rudyferrell Obviously we will not deny the wisdom of wisely leaving to God what we cannot comprehend, such as how He created billions of Galaxies.
And those who tell us that this and other mysteries of God are beyond our human comprehension, speak well, because they speak a great truth, don’t they.
However the subject of predestination, whilst it initially doesn’t make sense, is meant to make sense, hence the reason why God alerts us to its existence.
And as we ponder the reasoning for it with the logical minds God has given us, it becomes apparent from a process of deduction, should we wish to deduce it, that God predestines because without doing so, none would be saved.
The understanding of this subject brings with it a greater comfort and solace for us who consider the lost who are perishing, because it helps us to more fully appreciate that they ultimately would not pay the price of grateful obedience to God.
However as the greatness of God and what He is, is unlimited and in the realm of infinity itself, we therefore, whilst learning more and more while travelling along our eternal journey in heaven, will always be learning, never knowing all, but always learning more. Thank you for your comment. God bless you.
Please listen again to his teaching. Maybe on the 2nd time you will see he answered All of your questions.
Only thing I disagree with is why he teaches; "God does not destined some to hell - For in regards to Romans 9 - it is clear God hated Esau before he was even born. Also in verse 18 God will show mercy on whom He Wills.
Now look in Genesis where God tells Eve He will put ENMITY between SATAN'S SEED AND HER SEED.
PLUS, Look at the parable of the Wheat and the Tares.. The
parable which Jesus gives appears in Matthew 13:24-43. The parable relates how servants eager to pull up weeds were warned that in so doing they would root out the wheat as well and were told to let both grow together until the * harvest.
But look closely at verses 23,24. **
The kingdom of heaven is planted by likened unto a man that sows good seed.
V.25 shows an Enemy comes in darkness and sowes tares among the wheat. (Who is our enemy? - none other than the one in the garden that God said He would put
ENMITY between each seed. SATAN's Goats are walking among us Sheep.
Just as there has become a huge field of Satan 's tares. God will call us home but already has a place reserved for Satan and all his followers to be cast into the lake of fire...
Revelation 20:19-15. THEY will be judged by their works. They are not under the blood of Christ Jesus.
So trust God is in Control and has the end planned from the beginning.
Oh, yes!
The Goats and or the Tares will be divided, and God's Sheep will enter into His glorious rest. Be strong in your faith, for God Will Not allow the tares to choke out God's plan for your life.
God is Always in Control.
He declared the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church - He promised that long before the church came into being.
So are there people here predestined to hell - Yes by all certainty. JESUS
said I have come for my lost Sheep. (ONLY)
So in this respect I do disagree respectfully.
There are vessels made for honor and dishonor. ROMANS 9:22,23
Goats never become sheep - DNA today proves that. Neither can a tare become a wheat either. ROMANS 9:22,23 - Only God knows His own.
I am so very grateful for His Grace and Mercy toward me and the 'Great I AM' made me one of His Sheep. ✝️❤️🌼🙏😘
Yes a day will come the Goats will be separated from the Sheep and wheat from the tares.
@@sandrafarley8798 I don’t think I disagree with you. All I am saying is that As God knows everything, He knew that the fall would take place in heaven if He made the angels.
And of course, As He knows which angels would be faithful to Him, He also knew which ones of us would be faithful to Him too. Correct?
But God allows Satan to come here to earth. God could have sent him anywhere but He sends him or allows him to be amongst us. Why?
What function does Satan provide? He provides the function of the tempter, doesn’t he.
The holy angels have proven themselves haven’t they. Although God doesn’t need proof because He knows without the proving. So therefore the angels have proved themselves to themselves, haven’t they. They were tried and tested and they know they have passed the test with flying colours.
And because of this proving their character is of a greater quality than what it was before they proved it.
Perhaps we can say that as they have proved themselves they have been sealed by God making it impossible for them to ever sin.
Satan could have separated Peter the apostle or sifted him but Jesus prayed and prevented it. Peter had seen it all. The miracles and He knew that Jesus was the son of the living God. But nevertheless without the intervention of Jesus he could have been sifted.
Ok what chance do we have of not being sifted by Satan. The answer is, without the help of God, we’d have no chance.
Hence the reason for predestination because without being predestined none would be saved. God knew we were all going to become captives of Satan so He comes up with a plan to set us free.
But Satan isn’t about to let us go unless God forces his hand. And He does that with an offer that Satan cannot refuse.
And that’s the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ on the cross as a sufficient ransom to let all those go free who plead the blood of Jesus Christ.
And As God knows before the creation of man which ones will be faithfully obedient to Him if He creates them, He therefore chooses these ones, and gives them a predestinated life or an orchestrated life that makes it possible to repent. But without this orchestrated life none would repent and none would be saved.
So you're saying God purposefully orchestrates some lives so they have no possibility of repenting.
Doesn't Calvinism say God does everything? So why repent?
Oh, John... You are gonna be SO happy when you finally come to the realization that God is saving ALL mankind. Sure, the "elect" remnant now, but eventually ALL mankind (1 Tim 4:10).
Universalism? A man made lie orchestrated by Satan himself.
@@bernardbennett1217 praying that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may be giving you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in the realization of Him,
What Mr MacArthur says about false teachers whom are leaders and doctors explains to me, how Jesus said in Mathew 7: 21-23. " Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord."
I hope you understand Mac Arthur is one of those teachers who says lord lord and he will not be let in. You do know that he is a new calvanist that doesn’t even understand John Calvin’s theology, and the worst he thinks jesus blood is not gods blood. The man is bad. Dig deeper.
That ding from your txt message at 11:55 was so confusing lol
Same. I checked my phone 📱
Furthermore, does the Bible not teach that even evil men give good gifts to their children? Is that not a “good act”? Are we really implying that total depravity means we are 100% incapable of doing any single good deed in our entire lives? Even after hearing the gospel of Christ which is the power to salvation? That is not what the Bible teaches. If that was the case he’d have destroyed the world all over again as He did in Noah’s time, as everyone only ever thought and did evil continually. No matter how depraved we are, God still allows us to make a choice after hearing His gospel. Why? I don’t know the mind of God, but are you to argue that sovereign God is incapable of sovereignly choosing to ALLOW US to make that choice, and in His foreknowledge electing those who do? It has NOTHING TO DO with merit. He doesn’t elect us because He feels “obligated” to, or because we’ve “earned” salvation by responding. He does so because he SOVEREIGNLY CHOOSES to. He would have every right to deny our plea and condemn us on the spot! If He so chose. Nobody is claiming we have “merited” anything by responding. He will have mercy on who He will have mercy on, and it is clear to me from the scriptures that He will have mercy on any who fall before Him, confess their sins and plead for salvation. And that is by HIS design, not ours.
you are a wackjob your illogical nonsensical drivel is unreadable
you need help medication or accepting truth
Jason, I agree!
Derek Prince is the best teacher
The Bible is True! But when you have a man who is reading into the text what he wants it to say that's a problem!
I feel very sorry for the people that resort to name calling and anger that don’t like what this man is proving to them. But if you’re angry it doesn’t bother him. Im a second your seminary student and this man is exactly correct in his hermeneutics. More than likely the critics use the Bible like a daily horoscope, put their hand over their eyes put their finger on a verse and that’s God talking to them. LOL.The charismatic movement has done all but ruin accurate interpretation. So I guess I can’t blame them
I CANNOT IMAGINE A MORE READY INSTRUMENT IN THE HANDS OF SATAN FOR THE RUIN OF SOULS THAN A MINISTER WHO TELLS SINNERS IT IS NOT THEIR DUTY TO REPENT OF THEIR SINS OR TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST,AND WHO HAS THE ARROGANCE TO CALL HIMSELF A GOSPEL MINISTER,WHILE HE TEACHES THAT GOD HATES SOME MAN INFINITLY AND UNCHANGEABLY FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE HE CHOOSES TO DO SO.
SPURGEON.
Here is the other John Macarthur ruclips.net/video/ls3MCdHFJpA/видео.html
@@mrnoedahl weirdo
theyre all destined for doom unless tehy repent they dont want to so they try to twist scripture. they are all here with fake profiles triggered ranting and raving haha obv theyve been convicted and refused
@@uncasunga1800 pharisees
We don't have any choice at all, we are already predetermined and predestined to heaven or hell. So sad. Why then share the gospel? I can't see grace and mercy. Rather than focusing on a single belief why not take a balanced position. God is sovereign but He respects man's choice.
@@pinarellosq2868 Still i will trust the word of God rather than man, john 3:16 "for God so loved the elect?" Nope, God so loved the world. He gives us a choice, He initiates, we respond. Those who who accepted Jesus made a choice. God never forced men to accept Him. The problem relies on our foreknowing, we are limited, God is infinite. He knows the end. That's why He said, you are predestined, He saw it already, He was not surprised. Anyway just enjoy your relationship with God through calvinism, I will also enjoy through the bible.
You can share the gospel with a thousand, and only those who God draws to him will believe. Jesus preached to countless groups. Jesus preached to countless folk. Sharing the gospel is still important. You never know which will believe it.
@Mopar1971 Abraham had faith and then was granted righteousness. Romans 4 especially 3 and 22. To bad God didn't get your memo about how to do things
After sixty years as a Christian, reading the sacred scriptures and studying them word by word, sentence by sentence, paragraph by paragraph, and more crucially studying the words of the Eternal Word, God manifest in Flesh, who alone is Eternal Life, and Eternal Salvation, and to highlight the eternal significance of this , let me take every genuine Christian to the Mount of Transfiguration in Matthew chapter 17v5 and Mark chapter 9v11-15, and Luke chapter 9v7, and Luke chapter 9v35, and listen to The Words of God the Father in response to the manmade ideology of Peter to make three tabernacles, one for you , one for Moses and one , for Elijah , imagining in his feeble apprenhensiion, that he was doing well, putting the Lord first, until the cloud of God's glory came upon them , and they were filled with fear, and they fell on their faces and heard God the Father say, This is my Beloved Son Hear Him, and the saw no one but God's Son alone, Moses and Elijah the greatest of the Old Testament prophets Gone , and God said this is My beloved Son Hear Him.
Today men major on what Paul or Peter says, but both of them are hell-deserving sinners, who could not save themselves never mind one single soul, so unless they confirm what The Eternal Word said, according to Hebrews chapter 2v3, their words are worthless, and unless we hear what God the Father said on the Holy Mountain, hear My Son, we are in danger of being eternally lost
Jesus said “no one can come to me unless the Father drags them to me”. End of story. We are saved by God’s will not human will. End of story.
My favorite person on this planet
So well taught!
Most do not understand the doctrine therefore hate and deny it
@@teresamacey7039 I don't understand God's way, but I accept it. His ways are perfect in every way.......
@@rudyferrell I have struggled with God's sovereignty and man's responsibility. Staying close to God by being in His word daily, being with other believers who can hold me accountable, and listening to the guidance of the Holy Spirit through prayer helps my walk with our Lord. All my best to you.
@@teresamacey7039 Calvinism is clear and concise. It says you may not be one of the elect so are you prepared you may burn in hell FOREVER?
I’ve come in this world to give site to those that are blind and take away site from those who say we see
Ronny Carney sight*
Ronny Carney Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
What are you going to do? Perform eye surgery?
1 Peter 1:2 KJVS
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
John acknowledges "tension" such as the ‘whosoever will’ scriptures. He states;
“Anybody who will come can come; and anybody who does come will be received.” How does that work together with election; John answers; “I don’t know.” That's a "tension", not easily ignored. A teacher of scripture should say that up front so that those listening can put all comments in that context. I agree that the doctrine of election is biblical. It extends specifically to the redemptive plans and purposes of God. However, I believe John adds to the meaning. I don't believe it's good balance, under the auspices of hyper-sovereign theology, to use a broad brush and sanitize the Bible of all other passages that speak about human choice, the Holy Spirits role in bringing wisdom, revelation, and understanding, as well as the influence of the god of this world (satan). In this teaching John also answers the question; How do we know who the chosen are? He uses 1 Thes 1:3-4 and says, "It's evident from your life;" human behavior; or works. Earlier in the message he made it clear that election isn't about our goodness or bad. (Rom 9).
Thanks for the comments and the scriptures I posted these particular videos because I wanted to stimulate people to search the scripture and come to a solid conclusion
wonderful doctrine for a few.
No, for many, from every nation, tribe and tongue.
Bob Free Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
@@jamesinman1146 Calvinisy have no assurance of salvation, they are like muslims, they dont know if they are elected to be saved.VERY DEPRESSING
Obviously not for those poor creatures whom God does not choose to love.
@@cynthiasnyder1561 maybe God decided He doesn't want to love you.
And what kind of love is that if you make someone love you. Israel was chosen before the foundation an they still rejected Jesus his own chosen people
best He ever did for me, forced Himself on me! Thank GOD! I could neevr have done it
John MacArthur! The biggest!!
Biggest satanist
Praise God
Thank you brother
42:30???
I know, right? Strange.
I’m guessing that’s tied to why there were txt messages lol earlier
I believe this doctrine, but it isn’t a determining factor in salvation... is it?
In my heart of hearts I believe that all who believe this doctrine are the true Elect. I can understand that there are many who oppose this. I keep coming back to the same question in my mind: why would this truth not be believed by all true followers of Christ? Would the Lord not reveal ALL truth to those that are genuinely born from above? I believe He would. Keep mining the Scriptures and listening to God annoninted preachers such as John MacArthur and John Barnett.
@@ib6029 ruclips.net/video/ls3MCdHFJpA/видео.html
Toni Kennedy Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
you dont even understand the doctrine if you ask that.
God decided everything from teh start. His choice of HIS own was His from the start.
Eklektos look it up in strongs stop trying to get coherent theology in youtube comments come on grow up
Uncas Unga thanks for that, that was really nice of you to spew that out
All truth proceeds from the Holy Spirit the infallible teacher
The preacher is merely an unprofitable servant doing his duty!
Unconditional election:
The choice of which branch God, the Father of Jesus Christ, grafts in and the work of ingrafting are monergistic.
Romans 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
I am forever praising and believing Jesus is the Christ, and this is pleasing to God.
What happened to who ever called on the name of the lord will be saved?
whoever here is qualified, you must understand the context of the verse. It does not mean every single people who ever lives on this planet. Just like the word "world". Otherwise there wont be hell if Jesus indeed saves the whole world (every single person). Jesus himself said that they will be many people going to hell.
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. John 6 44
Here is the other John Macarthur ruclips.net/video/ls3MCdHFJpA/видео.html
And we call on the name of the Lord in everything, including baptism. Look at (Acts 22:16) also in the king James version Bible.
Wow, if this is true, then I am relieved of praying for the lost! Maybe, just maybe, if this is true, then prayer is futile all together. I just throw my hands up and accept that it is God's will! I don't have to give to missions or community outreaches or minister to the ends of the earth. If this is true, then the church can just sit back, relax and not lift a finger to reach out to others. Just like when Noah had finished the ark, he didn't have to go on a safari to gather up the animals; they just showed up. This doctrine of election lightens the burden of everybody and everything about the mission of the church.
No it doesn't because god still has to match the gospel giver to the recipuent
Bonnie B God ordains the means as well as the end. Also I think that is a “slippery slope “ argument.
fasle cynical dichotomy mocking God
you are a fke self righteous hypocrite. actually listen. duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
so stupid come on are you a thinking functioning human? its in black and white EKlektos
Where does it say Noah went on a safari to gather the animals in the Bible?
Bonnie, Exactly!
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, *that the Gentiles by my mouth should HEAR the word of the gospel, and BELIEVE*
And God, *which knoweth the hearts* bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
{Acts 15:7-9}
MacArthur has taught his version of election for so long that he is very convincing to people who do NOT rely on the discernment of the Holy Spirit. That discernment is ONLY available to believers in the gospel of Jesus AND who do not quench the discerning power of the Holy Spirit by having unconfessed sin in their lives. Eph 4:17, 1 Co 2:14. God gave us 1 John 1:9 is written to believers in Jesus so we can be restored to fellowship when we sin and be filled with Holy Spirit for discernment of the Word.
The gospel of Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection paid for ALL sins of every human. Jesus is the ONLY elected one and was appointed as elected in eternity past. Is 42:1, 1 Pet 2:6. Whosoever believes shall be saved. John 3:16. All who believe in Jesus share in His election. Eph 1:4 In Christ we are chosen. Nobody is chosen except those who are in Christ by their belief in His salvation gospel. God is NOT the respecter of any person. Acts 10:25-37.
The teaching of election as MacArthur and some others teach it is heresy and contrary to the essence and character of God. We must leave it to God to judge.
The false doctrines come about when a human takes a verse of scripture out of context and does not listen to the discernment of the Holy Spirit the human intellect will always create a false conclusion. This is how religions and denominations exist and have for all of time.
The Christian Way of Life is being filled with the Holy Spirit plus taking in knowledge of God from His Word. CWOL=HS+BD.
THAT IS ALL THERE IS TO LIVING THE LIFE GOD WANTS EVERYBODY TO LIVE. False teaching and religion convolutes God will for us.
Was Jesus a Calvanist? When he walked the earth his very Message. was to talk to all people, the poor and down trodden,samaritans, Rich rulers,Leading Jewish rabbis and teachers,Zealots,an everone else. HE told them about the kingdom of GOD an forgave sins, which was to say ,he had the power to Forgive anyone,if only they Believed In Him.Do you think he was just talking to the Elect. Cmon now. Even many Pharasees believed him because of all those miracles as nicodemus concluded,WE know that thou are a Teacher from GOD cause no man could do those miracles unless GOD is with HIM!! Jesus was constantly trying to persuade as many as possible, an commands the Great Commission. was this also for some Elect. WAS baptism a charade for most men an just for an elect? Why would HE say go out an preach to all nations, Calvanism is Flawed especially with Limited Atonement.GOD also commands ALL men everywhere to REPENT. is this Not True? calvanists say its not. I don't GET it at all!!
Romans 11:5
Yes i have chosen thousands who have Not bowed down to baal. They made a choice to Follow God . We all use Gods Grace so that we CAN Repent just like he commands us too.But we are not forced into this.we choose with our God given free will. Grace is given to ALL,otherwise GOD would not tell ALL men to Repent.Jesus also pleads with men to turn to him.read it in scripture.
In Acts 19:2 the Bible says, And he said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.” Since the premise is regeneration comes before faith, how can they believe without knowing about the Holy Spirit? Can one be regenerated without the Holy Spirit? Is regeneration even necessary in order to believe?
Here is the other John Macarthur ruclips.net/video/ls3MCdHFJpA/видео.html
@@mrnoedahl wackjob
www.gotquestions.org/total-depravity.html
ruclips.net/video/ls3MCdHFJpA/видео.html
This guy is insane. A blind leader leading the blind.
Get behind me!!!
1. Scripture is from God and God cannot lie. (2 Tim. 3:16; Tit. 1:2)
2. Predestination is of existing saints to adoption/glorification, not sinners to conversion. (Eph. 1:5, 11; Rom. 8:23, 29-30)
3. Election is to service, calling and purpose, not to salvation. (Isa. 42:1; Acts 9:15; Rom. 11:28). Eph 1:4 says, "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:" The Calvinist reword is "chosen TO BE in him unto salvation." "Holy and without blame" describe quality of service, and the word, "should" involves an exhortation to be such, not a decree. Salvation is not mentioned in Eph 1:4.
4. Adoption is the future redemption of the body, not conversion. (Rom. 8:23, 15-17; Gal. 4:1-6, 1 John 3:2)
5. Sinners become sons of God through the new birth, not through adoption. (John 1:12-13)
6. There are two callings: Gospel and vocational, not inward or outward or effectual or general, etc… (2 Thess. 2:14; Eph. 4:1; Rom. 8:28; 2 Cor. 5:20)
7. Atonement is not synonymous with salvation. Christ’s death reconciles the world in universal atonement but Christ's life is what saves. (Rom. 5:10; 1 Cor. 15:17)
8. It is a false dichotomy to assert that the universal set of theological thought is divided into Calvinism and Arminianism. We Bible believers reject both. Arminianism is Calvinism light. False dichotomies are used by the Calvinist to map the opponent to an unpalatable label and thus infer that Calvinism is the only alternative.
9. God is pleased to save those that believe, not cause belief in those he saves. (1 Cor. 1:21; Rom. 10:9-10)
10. Grace is a ubiquitous reality, not a selective force. (Tit. 2:11-13)
11. Grace is just fine on its own as found in scripture. Any modifier other than “free,” such as “sovereign,” “irresistible,” or “prevenient” indicates superimposition of an ideology by someone who is either confused or attempting to confuse. (Rom. 3:24; 5:15; Jn. 1:16; Tit. 2:11-13)
12. If one is born with total inability to receive God's life-giving truth and then passed over by the calvigod who unconditionally elected not to extend the gnostic spark of regeneration to that one to enable/cause faith, then there is no better excuse (Rom 1:20.)
13. God's Word and God's life-giving truth of the gospel are the enablers of faith - "...the holy scriptures, which are ABLE to make thee wise unto salvation..." "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name." The 2nd person "thee" and "ye" apply to YOU, whoever you are.
14. The gift in Eph 2:8 is eternal life, not faith (Rom 6:23.)
15. God is all loving, He loves all (without exception.) (John 3:16).
Excellent! My prayer is that Calvinist followers of John MacArthur, John Piper and other Calvinist pastors like them will read your comments, ask God to reveal to them if what you wrote is correct and, when they realize by the power of the Holy Spirit what you wrote is true, they will leave this ugly, hateful doctrine known as Calvinism and begin to see God for who he is, a just and righteous God who is love, so much so that he “…wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth” (1 Tim 2:4). Not all will be saved, only those who believe (Jn 3:16). If someone doesn’t believe, it’s not because God prevents them from believing, rather it’s because they do not believe (Jn 3:18). May God bless you, and may God convict John MacArthur of his error and the damage he has done to the true gospel of Jesus Christ.
@@myinternetname5911 wacko fakes its PRE destination anyone not predestined never gets in they do not force themsleves obn God hahahahaha
you have a puny puppet waiter disney world fake and do not believe you are a vile reprobate sinner. you hate the cross and declare God a liar the truth is not in you. self righteous american pompous prosperity gospel typical, no repentance no conversion.
I downloaded this video over at the time i had 9072 views but i was unable to save the comments.
1. Where in the scriptures it is ever taught that God must regenerate a man’s nature before he can believe? This can be found in a number of Scriptures John MacArthur prefers to use John chapter 3 verse 1. John One must be born again, although your web sight has corrupt the teaching of election its the only way for defense for the doctrine of election , your web site also accuses the doctrine of electron of robbing God of Glory when its the other way around if the doctrine of election makes it the full work of God the man gets no glory. man has always from the beginning tried to rob God of glory, to say that man choses God robs God of Glory it makes man responsible for his salvation, man does have the free will to choose unfortunately because of his sinful nature he will always choose sin over good,
2. Did the LORD have to give Abraham a new nature before he could make the decision to leave when he was called out in Gen 12? No that is a real dumb question Im Sure he was filled with the spirit from birth
3. Was the call to faith, imputed and irresistible to him? Of course,
4. This statement is false (The “elect” is Christ, and not mankind). lets look at all the scriptures and see who God is speaking of? (Ephesians 1:3-14) (Romans 9:11) (Acts 13:48) (Romans 8:33) (Col 3:12) (2thes2:13) (Mathews24:22,24,31) (Mark 13:20,22,27) (Romans11:7) (2 Timothy 2:10) (Titus1:1) (1 Peter1:1) Now who is Gods Elect? Christ? or is it those who God has given each a measure of faith ? LETS SAY YOUR RIGHT FOR ARGUMENT SAKE? IF YOU RIGHT THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH ALL THE SCRIPTURES THAT SAY THE OPPOSITE ? DO WE CAST THEM OUT? NO!! AND WE KNOW BOTH CANT BE RIGFHT? SO WE LOOK TO MAKE THEM ALL FIT WITH OUT CHANGING THE MEANING.
Learning Sound Theology Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, *by the word of God* which liveth and abideth for ever.
{1 Peter 1:23}
In whom also we [Ephesians] have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated *according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will*
That we [Christ Apostles] should be to the praise of his glory, *who first trusted in Christ*
In whom ye also trusted, *after* that ye *heard the word of truth* the gospel of your salvation: in whom also *after that ye believed* ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
{Ephesians 1:11-14}
I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, Calvin believes we can't know who that mercy falls on, but Paul does!
1 Timothy 1:13
“Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.”
its important to provide information statements made on both sides so you dont look like a gossiper all who read will want to know where you get your information from so it will have some validation
@@flybunny58 I disagree, Scripture must be used, Sola Scriptura! Only Scripture is the best interpreter of Scripture!
@@flybunny58 Paul Saud he was shown mercy because he sinned ignorantly in unbelief! You can't get any more clearer than that
How does macArther know he was chooses since you can be called but all not chosen. cause he's a pastor. Couldn't this guy be false teaching also THATS WHY YOU TEST EVERYTHING WHERE IS THE CONTEXT HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT EACH VERSE MEANS WITHOUT THE CONTEXT
So let me get this straight.
God commands us to love our fellow man but he is not going to love ALL men but some? That's not my God of love ,grace and mercy.
Whatever you call God has no Holiness, no justice nor judgement and you allow Him no vindictive vengeance.
@@aTruster
I do not call God John MacArthur that's for sure. He has some good things to say most times but this is messed up.
Good chose all of us no matter how theologically small this makes people feel!
But I do agree that just because he chose us doesn't mean all will believe and trust.
Mark Mullen, I used to dislike this doctrine of predestination as well. But you must accept God as revealed in the Bible. Paul explains election thoroughly in Eph 1 & Romans 9; God chose Abraham, chose Israel, all choices from love. Jesus Himself made many angry who left Him because He talked about election - John 6:65-66. Men hate election because they have a grand view of themselves, they think mankind is "good" or at least partially good. Not the case. Election is the only way anyone would choose to desire God instead of evil.
There are dozens of other verses that support election.
Regardless of what one believes, that won't change the word of God.
@@MrLenny449
I agree
The Clapton break was funny.
Was Eric there?
How can there be so many Christians who deny predestination? It's literally written in God's Word for us, yet people deny it.
He predestined you to hell.
Calvinism: A doctrine that insinuates that a Sovereign God cannot convince a depraved sinner to accept irresistible grace. The points of the Tulip contradict themselves.
Calvinism: A doctrine that affirms that man, enslaved to his sinful nature, CANNOT choose God (Romans 3:10-17) and that because of this shows the power and mercy of God by His ability to change the hearts of unrepentant sinners into those who would worship a good, just, and loving God.
Sad to hear this man deny John 3:16,17 and 1John 2:2.
God having predestined us unto the adoption of sons by the Election of grace by Jesus Christ unto Himself
If god is all good and without sin, if he’s the creator of all things. Does that make him the author of sin? When he created Adam and Eve he knew Eve would eat from the tree and predestined that to happen. Why? Why create us If he knew we would sin and plunge the world into death.
Vain teaching. Absolutely empty and pointless. MacArthur (and other false teachers) promotes the false dichotomy of heaven and hell... Election has to do with those who God chose to be the firstfruits of His Kingdom, which was inaugurated in AD 70... That's why Jesus and John the Baptist declared the Kingdom of Heaven was "at hand"... and why Paul said that the resurrection and judgment were "impending" in the first century (Acts 24:15; Acts 26:22).
You must be Born Again Moe..
I pray you come to the place where you realize this man isn't one of the false teachers, but a man inspired by God to rightly interpret the scriptures, to bring men to a greater knowing of God's character.
Heaven and hell, false?????
@@joshualesley I CANNOT IMAGINE A MORE READY INSTRUMENT IN THE HANDS OF SATAN FOR THE RUIN OF SOULS THAN A MINISTER WHO TELLS SINNERS IT IS NOT THEIR DUTY TO REPENT OF THEIR SINS OR TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST,AND WHO HAS THE ARROGANCE TO CALL HIMSELF A GOSPEL MINISTER,WHILE HE TEACHES THAT GOD HATES SOME MAN INFINITLY AND UNCHANGEABLY FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER BUT SIMPLY BECAUSE HE CHOOSES TO DO SO.
SPURGEON.
you wackjob cult member you disbelieve Paul then quote him you are a special kind of stupid
interesting talk..thanks for this post.
Nugget of Truth - Eric King Fekade Senbeta This is an absolutely true message, but Jesus sent me to let you know that to confirm whether you are "called and chosen" is (if) you OBEY (Acts 2:38!) Because if you OBEY (Acts 2:38), then as (Acts 2:39) states, you were CALLED! Because Jesus Christ is God alone! Jesus is the Father of creation, robed in flesh as the Son for redemption, and He alone is the Holy Spirit in action in His church today. (Acts 2:38) is the FULFILLMENT of the Great Commission given by Jesus Christ in (Matthew 28:19.) Because (Matthew 28:19) is not the baptismal formula, but rather, it's a "prepositional phrase" (DESCRIBING) the ONE NAME that must be used in the baptismal formula... Which is JESUS CHRIST (according to Acts 2:38!) And remember, as (Acts 2:38) clearly states... Baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ is for the "remission/pardon/forgiveness/washing away of sins!" Please read it! The Kingdom of God is not recognized... It's REVEALED!
I believe what Mc is preaching. It's in black and white. So this means I have more Revelation than all thoses men blasting John. 😂 😂 😂 Keep preaching the truth brother.
He's preaching satanism
He's preaching your eternal home may be hell.
Don't be ignorant son. Just chew up the meat and spit out the bones ❤
I have a question, if we are predestined , why does John 3.:16 say for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that WHOSOEVER Believes in him shall be saved , Explain this to me
@Harold Zwingley I believe we have to be led by the holy Spirit before we can get saved , it’s all a work of GOD not by us
Why didn't he ever actually debate calvinism? The Basics:. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (NOW!) and thou shalt be saved." Rejecters will not be. Why wouldn't the myriads of similar verses not say "those chosen to believe at creation will be saved"? Because it would be an accursed predestined different gospel! Those that do believe are predestined to be conformed to Christ's image. Will "it was predestined" to explain one's deeds be a viable excuse at the Great White Throne Judgement? Believe and trust the Bible, not men! Let God be true and every man a liar!
Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Now when they heard this, *they were pricked in their heart* and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Then Peter said unto them, *Repent and be baptized* every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, *and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost*
{Acts 2:36-38}