I think I understand now why I love Karlach so much. She doesn’t hold anything back, no matter how simple, no matter how obvious, she says it. No, she screams it, because it’s what she thinks and believes and you’ll hear it whether you like it or not. I wish I had even a fraction of her boldness.
Karlach killed me again and again. What a character of real flesh and blood and emotion and soul. She felt like a real person start to finish, a sister, a buddy, a friend. Astarion gets all the praise but the writing and acting for Karlach, for me, was unforgettable. My favourite companion in an RPG? She might just be the one.
Couldn't have said it better. Astarion gets all the praise but Karlach is the real dark horse of the game in terms of writing, story, and character development.
bawling my fucking eyes out during this scene bro, and I'm romancing her too so when she told me "oh you just get to keep living, find someone else, fuck them, have all your fun long life ahead of you, I get to die" like oh my god bro I actually felt for a second like a real life person was saying that shit to me, like I was being given survivor's guilt by a video game, and the game does a perfect job of encapsulating that you really cannot make her feel better with any dialogue options, its all false hope, desperation, cruel indifference or a selfish "I don't want to lose you" you cannot say anything that will make her feel better in this moment no matter how much you want to. For my dialogue she only started to calm down right at the end once I admitted that I didn't know what to do and just apologized to her for being unable to help. Cheeky bitch asked me if I was sure I wasn't hiding a wish scroll somewhere in my pack and then said she loved me and just needed to be alone What a game man, I really don't want to and I know she wouldn't either but I'm praying that when I face down Raphael to get the hammer back that he'll offer some kind of out to her fate. I would gladly let that guy rot in a bubble while Laezel hates me than watch Karlach die in my playthrough's ending.
Since you’re romancing her, there’s a bittersweet ending you can follow. I won’t spoil it, but I will say you will shed more tears before getting a smile.
I remember first seeing this seen and my jaw just hitting the floor. I still come back and watch it here every few weeks. Just beautiful work by the VA
This scene is the epitome of incredible storytelling. The rationale her mind goes through step by step is EXACTLY how human beings have to deal with the existential dread we bury all of our lives under lies, motives, ambitions, desires, etc etc… This scene is the moment when those subconscious mirages can no longer cloak our conscious and subconscious illusions that we’ve protected ourselves for so long with. The realization of the truth. The anger. The sadness. Everything. Even the end with how she flips right back to a calmer tone and says I need to spend time alone at camp to scream at the sky and such. The processing and unwinding time. It’s so beautifully done. You can tell by the writing in this scene alone that the BG3 dev team did a massive deep dive into existentialism; along with hundreds of other topics. But it’s masterfully done. 💯
Karlach manages to be a big bro that I want to high five all the time, and the little sister that I just want to fucking hug whenever she breaks down like this. Any character that makes me want the world for them--or in this case, to rip the world in half to help them--has a special place in my heart.
When she said, "Love you," on a playthrough where I treated her like a drinking buddy, it just hit hard. Such a well written character with stellar voice acting. One of my all-time favorite characters of any genre and any medium ever. Just brilliant.
If you finish Wyll's quests he becomes the Blade of Avernus and then you can convince her to go back to Avernus with him and they run off together fighting and laughing. So not exactly "saving" her, but keeps her from dying and not alone anymore
This is the perfect example of great character writing, great goal and amazing voice acting to convey the pain of her character honestly this scene replays in my head constantly
''Am I fucking missing something?!'' Unfortunately, yes. An entire questline, dialogue options with Gondians asking for help, Gale's Scroll of True Resurrection, Shadowheart's Divine Intervention, funds to deal with Raphael or Mizora chilling in your camp and many of the other narratively potential solutions to help you if only the PC wanted to actually assist you. This is a great scene by the way. Or it would be at least if this was the resolution of not pursuing any alternate methods to help her. Voice actress does an amazing job regardless.
Karlach's story is a *beautiful* one. Tragic yes, but beautiful and incredibly well written on an emotional level. It just sucks cause a setting like Faerûn doesn't leave a lot of room for narratives like this given all the "ways out" available by nature of it being a DnD setting.
I mean it really does, there are many things that can prevent resurrection, they just didn't bother to include one of them in this plot which would have made this make more sense@@the8ofspades888
This scene was hard on my Tav. She was a tiefling npc I dm’d in a campaign who lost her sister at the end of a major arc, so she set out to find and save her. When I decided to play her in my first BG3 playthrough I intentionally made the dream guardian resemble her sister to motivate her to participate in the quest, only for my Tav to be crushed when she found out it was all just a lie, that it wasn’t her. So after that my Tav chose to let her sister go and embrace the BG3 companions instead, especially Karlach. This conversation with Karlach’s anguish broke my Tav, especially when she said “Love you.” It was like she was losing her sister all over again.
When i first got this, i was romancing karlach. It hurt. It felt like i was giving her false hope and lying to ourselves, we never find an actual way to cure her, and when she told you what you would do after she's gone, man, i felt bad
I just went through that scene and I am confused to why Karlach is so angry now. Wasn't the main point to kill Gortash and now she is all angry about it? Yea, she may die, but she knew that before as well. So may the others.
Her only motivation that helped her forget she was dying any day now and had little time left was focusing on her revenge. Now that she’s achieved it, she feels empty and not as satisfied as she thought she’d be. She’s still condemned, and that’s all she has left in her thoughts
Where does she go after this? I cannot find her anywhere and she has one of the stones in her inventory. She's not at camp after resting a few days and her inventory isn't in the camp chest. I cannot continue the game without all three stones. Please help.
I relate too much to this scene - but I wonder if others would find it nearly so tragic if Karlach was male. Or would they just laugh and say "Suck it up, incel. You're not entitled to sex or other people's bodies."
It’s the “making love” Karlach is focused on, not just sex. She wants the intimacy, to not be alone. It’s not about “I want to have sex”. I think her sadness is very realistic and wouldn’t change if she was male.
This scene wins saddest scene in a game for me. The VA does an amazing job at selling the writing.
I thought it was shadowhearts, being forced to torture your parents and all for decades... just something fucked to the core about that
It’s up there with convincing Nikki to leave her dream in GOTG for me. Gets genuine emotion out of you
I think I understand now why I love Karlach so much. She doesn’t hold anything back, no matter how simple, no matter how obvious, she says it. No, she screams it, because it’s what she thinks and believes and you’ll hear it whether you like it or not. I wish I had even a fraction of her boldness.
2:19 The voice acting in this game is absolutely phenomenal
Karlach killed me again and again. What a character of real flesh and blood and emotion and soul. She felt like a real person start to finish, a sister, a buddy, a friend. Astarion gets all the praise but the writing and acting for Karlach, for me, was unforgettable. My favourite companion in an RPG? She might just be the one.
Couldn't have said it better. Astarion gets all the praise but Karlach is the real dark horse of the game in terms of writing, story, and character development.
Her voice cuts so deep. That sort of pain in her voice is impossible not to feel.
This scene hurt. VERY badly...
bawling my fucking eyes out during this scene bro, and I'm romancing her too so when she told me "oh you just get to keep living, find someone else, fuck them, have all your fun long life ahead of you, I get to die" like oh my god bro I actually felt for a second like a real life person was saying that shit to me, like I was being given survivor's guilt by a video game, and the game does a perfect job of encapsulating that you really cannot make her feel better with any dialogue options, its all false hope, desperation, cruel indifference or a selfish "I don't want to lose you" you cannot say anything that will make her feel better in this moment no matter how much you want to. For my dialogue she only started to calm down right at the end once I admitted that I didn't know what to do and just apologized to her for being unable to help.
Cheeky bitch asked me if I was sure I wasn't hiding a wish scroll somewhere in my pack and then said she loved me and just needed to be alone
What a game man, I really don't want to and I know she wouldn't either but I'm praying that when I face down Raphael to get the hammer back that he'll offer some kind of out to her fate. I would gladly let that guy rot in a bubble while Laezel hates me than watch Karlach die in my playthrough's ending.
Since you’re romancing her, there’s a bittersweet ending you can follow. I won’t spoil it, but I will say you will shed more tears before getting a smile.
I got teared up when I saw this scene. Holy shit, VA knocked it out of the park.
I remember first seeing this seen and my jaw just hitting the floor. I still come back and watch it here every few weeks. Just beautiful work by the VA
This scene is the epitome of incredible storytelling. The rationale her mind goes through step by step is EXACTLY how human beings have to deal with the existential dread we bury all of our lives under lies, motives, ambitions, desires, etc etc… This scene is the moment when those subconscious mirages can no longer cloak our conscious and subconscious illusions that we’ve protected ourselves for so long with. The realization of the truth. The anger. The sadness. Everything. Even the end with how she flips right back to a calmer tone and says I need to spend time alone at camp to scream at the sky and such. The processing and unwinding time. It’s so beautifully done. You can tell by the writing in this scene alone that the BG3 dev team did a massive deep dive into existentialism; along with hundreds of other topics. But it’s masterfully done. 💯
This cutscene had me tearing up. Such a good game.
Never fails to make me cry. It just feels so real, despite the fact that it's coming from a tiefling with an infernal engine in place of her heart.
Karlach manages to be a big bro that I want to high five all the time, and the little sister that I just want to fucking hug whenever she breaks down like this. Any character that makes me want the world for them--or in this case, to rip the world in half to help them--has a special place in my heart.
I can't stop crying. Every time I play through the game. Thank you Larian. For this masterpiece for eternity.
When she said, "Love you," on a playthrough where I treated her like a drinking buddy, it just hit hard. Such a well written character with stellar voice acting. One of my all-time favorite characters of any genre and any medium ever. Just brilliant.
Gods, Sam put so much into this performance 😢
Hands down, one of the best dramatic scenes I've seen
It's fucking depressing that you can't do anything to save her.
you can turn her into a mind flayer (in fact she volunteers) and she'll live that way
If you finish Wyll's quests he becomes the Blade of Avernus and then you can convince her to go back to Avernus with him and they run off together fighting and laughing. So not exactly "saving" her, but keeps her from dying and not alone anymore
You technically can but no spoilers 🤫
@@TM_0153No, she won’t.
Canonically, the mindflayer isn’t her, it’s more like a vessel with her memories. But not her.
I really want a DLC for this game that takes place in Avernus with the goal of saving Karlach :)
Me to
Pls Fans out there. We must to find a way to save karlach Live.
This is the perfect example of great character writing, great goal and amazing voice acting to convey the pain of her character honestly this scene replays in my head constantly
''Am I fucking missing something?!''
Unfortunately, yes. An entire questline, dialogue options with Gondians asking for help, Gale's Scroll of True Resurrection, Shadowheart's Divine Intervention, funds to deal with Raphael or Mizora chilling in your camp and many of the other narratively potential solutions to help you if only the PC wanted to actually assist you.
This is a great scene by the way. Or it would be at least if this was the resolution of not pursuing any alternate methods to help her. Voice actress does an amazing job regardless.
Karlach's story is a *beautiful* one. Tragic yes, but beautiful and incredibly well written on an emotional level. It just sucks cause a setting like Faerûn doesn't leave a lot of room for narratives like this given all the "ways out" available by nature of it being a DnD setting.
I think she might rather kill you than make an infernal deal, but the rest of those...
I mean it really does, there are many things that can prevent resurrection, they just didn't bother to include one of them in this plot which would have made this make more sense@@the8ofspades888
Her story isn't the intended one and will be fixed in the future.@@the8ofspades888
The fucking Selûne knows we are the only reason why Shadowheart didn't make a kebab out of her daughter, she could have given us some reward
This scene was hard on my Tav. She was a tiefling npc I dm’d in a campaign who lost her sister at the end of a major arc, so she set out to find and save her. When I decided to play her in my first BG3 playthrough I intentionally made the dream guardian resemble her sister to motivate her to participate in the quest, only for my Tav to be crushed when she found out it was all just a lie, that it wasn’t her.
So after that my Tav chose to let her sister go and embrace the BG3 companions instead, especially Karlach. This conversation with Karlach’s anguish broke my Tav, especially when she said “Love you.” It was like she was losing her sister all over again.
Oh my gosh T_T That's heartbreaking. I hope you got a good ending for our girl!!!
ffs why do this to me Larian! I need that upper city ASAP!!
Yeah, this scene broke me.
When i first got this, i was romancing karlach. It hurt. It felt like i was giving her false hope and lying to ourselves, we never find an actual way to cure her, and when she told you what you would do after she's gone, man, i felt bad
Karlach may be a barbarian, but she really felt like a paladin breaking her oath on this scene.
I really felt for her on this part of the game.
😭why did I do this to myself!? this scene destroyed when i saw it in game but here i am subjecting myself to it again😭
I cried
I just went through that scene and I am confused to why Karlach is so angry now. Wasn't the main point to kill Gortash and now she is all angry about it? Yea, she may die, but she knew that before as well. So may the others.
Her only motivation that helped her forget she was dying any day now and had little time left was focusing on her revenge. Now that she’s achieved it, she feels empty and not as satisfied as she thought she’d be. She’s still condemned, and that’s all she has left in her thoughts
@sffinx9308 ah ok, thanks for the explanation
My character was dead during this scene so I literally got no response options.
You couldn't res them first 😂
I'm not crying! You're crying! 😭😭💔💔💔
DAV has nothing on this unfortunately...
Where does she go after this? I cannot find her anywhere and she has one of the stones in her inventory. She's not at camp after resting a few days and her inventory isn't in the camp chest. I cannot continue the game without all three stones. Please help.
so whatever you choose in the dialog, she still go back to camp right?
Yea, and you gotta follow her to camp (do not rest) and you will get follow up dialogue to this.
Anyone know the theme playing in the scene?
lmao this scene didn't play for me, cause my mc died
I HATE that this scene was spoiled to me!
its such a waste to let karlach die, you can knock gortash down with non lethal weapon and then make karlach be mindflyer to fight crown of karsus
She canonically loses her soul later tho
And no way to giver her back what was stolen from her no matter what ending. Larian why? Drops my score for this game from 9.5 to 8.5
I relate too much to this scene - but I wonder if others would find it nearly so tragic if Karlach was male. Or would they just laugh and say "Suck it up, incel. You're not entitled to sex or other people's bodies."
What kind of weird ass observation is that?? Karlach mentions sex once in this whole rant, why would anyone make that the focus regardless?
It’s the “making love” Karlach is focused on, not just sex. She wants the intimacy, to not be alone. It’s not about “I want to have sex”. I think her sadness is very realistic and wouldn’t change if she was male.